July 12, 2026 • 34 mins
Jana reached a major milestone in potty training Roman so it’s time to celebrate! But she’s ready to share some tips for any other moms still in the thick of it.
Jana, Kathryn and Kristen get into the emotional roller coaster that comes with downtime and dealing with productivity addiction. Things get heated when we confront the invasion of kids on e-bikes that have taken over the neighborhood!
Plus, Jana shares her harrowing adventure getting stuck in a storm while out on the lake! And a reminder that you can always depend on the kindness of strangers.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wind down with Janet Kramer and iHeartRadio podcast, and we're
back together.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I love being together.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
It just feels better.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
It does.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
It's a little clunky on Zoom because I don't want
to overtalk, but then the dead space is like wow,
I know.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
And then it's like you start talking, and then it's
like it takes seconds for people to realize that we're
all you know. It's just it's like a conference call
that I hate. I hate conference calls.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Oh they're so annoying, so annoying. Uh huh, they're my
least favorite things to do. Ever, your least.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Favorite thing to do would be on one with my husband?
Oh no, why Actually no, I don't want to throw
the other one under the bus. But there's somebody else
that's always on his calls that is just horrible.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
The other one, Chris, don't be mad at me is he.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Just doesn't like to meet. He doesn't mute. I Also,
I will give this no if you guys use zoom
on your phones, it's so much different than zoom on
the computer. And I always feel like eyes struggle with how.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Do I have this?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yesterday she was like, I can't, I'm mute. She was trying.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I know, I don't like Google meets.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I don't either, does anybody A lot of business A
lot of companies you.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Say a lot of our business sums. I know Google
meets and it drives me nuts. I don't like it.
I don't know it. I can't find the mute button.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Well, and then someone else on that call was texting
me the entire time. I cannot unmute either, and she's
like trying to finish. She's like, I'm just gonna go away.
I was like, she's like me right, yeah, yeah, she
was there, but she went off. She's like, I can't
unmute myself, so I'm just going to go off video.
I was like, you're good and skipped texting.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
It was just funny. It's maddening, though, yes, but anyways,
so this is better. So this is fun. Girls. How
are we doing? You know? I afraid to say, well, no, no,
bottom might fallout, no no no good good like good
good good good good good good. We just like fully
finished potty training.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Oh that's so fast. It feels like I love it.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, I mean it was. I did the three day
yeah that I did with Jolie and Jays and I
so I bought Roman his potty gosh pretty much when
he turned two, because I I potty trained Jace right
it too, And I could tell when I put him
on that one potty he was just not ready. So
I'm like, okay, the shrunken little potty, we now use
(02:21):
it as a travel potty. Yeah, but yeah, like he
was just not ready.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
And way better than like just trying to fight it
if they're not ready.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
One hundred percent. And then we would start to put
him on. We got him, you know, one of the
instead of the portable one. We got him one that
he can climb up and then sit down on the toilet.
But he just wouldn't sit there long enough to like
want to be so again, just wasn't ready yet. And
then finally I was like, we have to pull the
plug at some point, we need to. We just like
(02:52):
he's going to be three in November. We got to
do it.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Oh sorry, yeah, sorry. We turned three on June ninth,
and there are nowhere.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Near fine and everything's fine.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Well listen, I will say, I really think it's mine.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
That's where you can't compare.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Oh never, every kid's different, yeah, and I don't honestly
feel that at all. My mom gil in this is
that I think she could have right around too, because
she was really wanting to. Yeah, but I again, it's
just the typical way my world is working. Like I'm
on sixty five, we don't have three days at home,
and so it actually is a little bit of a
(03:28):
non official goal for us in July, yeah, because we're
home and there's no travel, and I thought, we can
actually do this and do this well well.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
But the thing with Roman two is that he wasn't
like overly excited to do it right, do you know
what I mean? Like I had to go this is
what we're doing.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
I had to make it well, and you have to
wait for your schedule to be like where you can
have those three days to do.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Nothing, which is where key my opportunity I think.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, and Alan was lucky because the three days that
I picked, he had a couple clients in towns. So
and it's sweet though, he's just like, you did a
great job. Yeah, true, ye him. You know, he was
obviously very helpful as well. But I mean I remember
one girl I was you know what I mean, Like
when he went to go do sessions, It's like we
have to stay home, you know what I mean, and
so and obviously he needs to work and all the things.
(04:12):
So it was totally fine. But I knew for me,
those were the three days that we're going to work
the best.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I got really excited because I actually was here for
I think, like after this is actually amazing. And I
don't think this made the gram or I missed it,
but I was here for a couple of days after
the three days maybe, and I didn't know that there's
a full on harmonica party that happened. So Roman comes
out and he's like, mama pottied and Jana, I don't
(04:36):
even know where she got the harmonica. It came out
of nowhere all of a sudden, she is in full
blown harmonica whoo. And there was a party and he
was so happy, and I was like, well, I didn't
know that was.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Going to happen. Every time I play the harmonica, which
I can't play. But I was good though. That makes
it's a harmonica party. People do candy, You're like I
did candy if Jr. And the thing actually I posted
for anyone that missed. I posted on my Instagram with
like all the little tips and stuff. But it was great.
(05:08):
But I was scared though, because we were driving down
to the lake and so I'm like, this is our
first like real long. I mean it's not long. It's
two and a half hours. That's long for long, but
he can totally hold it. Yeah, which I because I
was starting to kind of time how long. In one
of the days, he went like three hours without peeing,
and I wasn't like giving him as much water as
(05:29):
like right, I was doing the first three days just
like whatever his normal would be. But in the car
he asked, He's like, I have to go peepy. So
I go, okay, So we pulled off on an exit,
took the potty out. That's amazing, and he went to
the bathroom and then, man, we've only had one mistake.
It was a little he was afraid to do number
two and so he pooped all over the floor a
(05:50):
couple times. But it's fine a.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Lot of times. A lot, I would say, majority of
the time they get potty trained for peeing, but then
the poop takes a while.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
So I had a ton of questions about and like, sorry,
Julian and Jace, but like they didn't, Yeah, they would
just they would they would go on their pull up yeah,
at night time, because they were so afraid of like
using like doing number two. Roman does it all the time.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
That's amazing because it's but I think the.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Reason why is because like I I would like sit
there with them, and I didn't. I had a lot
more patience for for Roman, I think on this round,
because it's like his belly was hurting him so bad
that I was like, buddy, I promised you, you will
feel better. I was like, just sit here with me,
and like I would squeeze his hand. I'm like, yeah,
squeeze mommy's hands. And then when he actually was squeezing,
he was like, oh oh, I was like it's okay.
(06:36):
And then like I literally had to hold him on
the potty and then he was just like I did it. Yeah,
And now he's like proud of himself. But it took
him like and then he had one like that accident
at the lake and then he's been fine.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
That's great. I will say one of my kids, I
won't even say who it was, was very scared of going.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
To a lot of body but that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
And they had had an accident in the bathtub and
it like really was like traumatizing and so there did
not want to go on that and I remember having
to hold down because it was like you hurt so bad,
like you have to go, and then eventually did and
but it was it was pretty traumatic. So to all
those out there, don't be.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I forgot there was two accidents. He did it in
the pool, so.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Common with the water. I remember. I remember reading that
because I was like, what is happening here?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
You know?
Speaker 1 (07:26):
So I think that's common too. So I think there's
a lot of common things in that. But that's great
that he's like and now it's like nothing, you know,
It's like it's great. I can't believe it's just big kid,
big kid. He still has a pull up nap time
and night there I will never like, I just don't like,
there's no point for me. Oh yeah, especially right now.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
He's also still did that some time.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
That definitely should take some time.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah, I'm fine with that. But yeah, that's what what's
going on in our lives and back from the forth,
just getting things ready. I was starting to have a moment, Okay,
I'm starting to get depressed.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
No why yeah, why, like cause you're getting back.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
And like nothing's happening. Okay, So you know, I'm like,
I'm great, I'm happy to have this time off, and
then I start to go into oh my gosh, what
is happening.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I wondered if this would hit. Yeah, I thought it
would hit a little bit later after the lake time,
like when you had like the last week at the lake.
I was like, it will be coming, you know for sure.
But I mean I get it, totally understands. So but
you seem okay.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, you know, I know we can talk about this
like so much. It's so interesting to like where on
the cycle I am that I like doomsday or get
depressed or get really tired, and then I'm like, what's
wrong with me? Am I fighting cancer? Or like I
just start to like literally like I doom scroll in
my head yea of like every worst case scenario, and
(08:50):
then I'm like what am I doing with my life?
And then it's and then it's just like the next day,
I've got energy and I'm great. But then I look
at like my flow chart or you know, just and
then it's just so interesting where that's where I'm at.
Literally today, I'm like one day I'm depressed and the
next day I'm like, I love my life. I was
ready to burn it all to the ground two days ago,
and then I got up this morning and I was like,
(09:11):
I can do this. I'm getting me abboc and I'm
doing you.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Know, like we're okay. Life is abundant. Gnny Bernstein's playing
while I'm folding.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
The laundry, Like I don't. It's so I should have
known it.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
My period came early, so I was thinking I had
more days, but it was so textbook for me those
two days that I should.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Have note, like the rage came and then it was
I wanted to is that more heightened for like, because
again I'm not in perimenopause, because my levels show that
I'm like technically age wise, I guess I am. But
like Nate always says, my blood work, isn't that. It's
like you're just you know, it's when iron or X,
Y and Z. But like it's just like, why can
one day I feel depressed and the next day I
(09:50):
we feel the top of the world, Like why is
it that?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Like it sounds very perimenopausal, I mean I would think,
but like, also, like you know, my rage before my
period was worse years ago and has gotten a little
bit better, which is odd. So I mean I still
feel that, but I mean there were some years there where,
like the rage before my period was like really bad,
certifiable flight, like really and I knew it, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Like, you know, was it connected to anything else? Though
I really don't think so, yeah, because That's what I'm
always trying to figure out, because I'm like Alan and
Eric Gray the kids, Yeah, everything's good. I'm like, why
do I It's just what might be hormonal connecting and
some something too.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah yeah, or is it part of our bracing for impact?
Sometimes I wonder that for myself, Like my default is
a little blue, So I wonder and I do think
that is like combination of childhood, and I also think
it's just maybe genetic a little.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I think my dad had a little bit of that,
the blues, the sads.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
But I sometimes wonder if I get envious to the
people that default to joy and default to glass half full.
And I try really hard again with the Gabby's and
the prayer and the you know in the movie My Body,
But sometimes I wonder if that is just my default,
Like it's like it's like posture, right, like at resting
(11:11):
sometimes you just kind of like give in a little
and I'm trying to get my brain to like default
to not going there. So I wonder if it's a
little bit of that sometimes, at least for me, I
do think it can be.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
I was talking to Alan about it too, and because
I was trying to explain it to him, and he
said that hyper active and like he's like, you're so
always like go, go go, and like working and stuff.
He's like, when you do have that like down time,
because it's true, like when I don't have anything to do,
(11:41):
I'm like, I guess I get depressed because I'm not busy.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
I wonder so that's what July is for us. I
guarded it with my life like there's no travel, there's
no camps, there's I mean, they're doing like a little
sweet VBS, but that's it. And I am wondering if
when my hyper productivity goes down, if that is part
of like I'm so excited for it, and then also
I'm like what am I even doing?
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Right?
Speaker 3 (12:04):
You know?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
It's like a It's like I get such adrenaline rush,
like being on sets and like working and studying lines,
and then when it's not there, it's like.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah, yeah, I just think that's kind of more in us,
you know what I mean, and like kind of who
we are, Like it usually resets me, but if it
gets to a point then I'll start feeling it. But
like downtime does usually naturally at its state resets me.
Like if I have that downtime, I know I have
busy coming. If I don't know that I have, you know,
(12:36):
with kids or you know, busy coming, then I can
get that way. Yeah, But I just think that's just
kind of who we are because we're so hardworking. We're
just I think everybody's just so different as humans, you know,
like being alone. Like I was talking to another friend
the other day when I was like, look at me,
I was social. I came over because it's like a joke,
how I'm like not social. And I was like, I
stayed till nine, you know. And she's like, I'm so
(12:57):
proud of you. She was like, when I had friends
over the other day, the entire time I was in
the pool, I had anxiety about when they were leaving.
She's like, but that's just her personality. She wants someone
around all the time, and she's not thinking about when
they're leaving. In in the you know, where I'm like,
when are they?
Speaker 2 (13:17):
You know?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Not really, I like, and the people are there, but
well we all know. I'm like interesting, right, that's fair.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
But it's interesting because I just think this kind of
just built in who we are, and everyone's so different
and gets filled so differently, you know, And like I
get filled that way too, Like I do end up
enjoying it and I get filled up, but then I'm like, Okay,
I'm good, I've met my quota.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Yeah, I feel that way, and then I have to
decompress for.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Like days, yeah, whereas she's like, okay, who's tomorrow, you know,
And like I just I just think we're all just
very different in that way, and so I don't know
that it's as maybe pinned to something as much as
we want it to be. Sometimes I feel.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Like I need a reason. Okay, you've got low iron,
that's why you're tired, or well this, or like it's
like I need I need a to equal something. Well tired,
sure equal something for me.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
All our irons, all of our fare tin is in
the dumps, and all of us are exhausted, so that
will explain that.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
But I sometimes am I tired here we go.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
The most A type quote I could say, maybe ever,
am I tired?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Or is this relaxed? I don't know, because I don't
really relax so interesting. Is this tired?
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Or am I just enjoying a small break where there's
maybe nothing for.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Your eyes like closing when you're relaxed, I feel I
don't know, I don't. It's so like tired. Tired to
me is like when you're relaxed, and it's like I
can barely keep my eyes open.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
No, because I definitely felt that the day before the
period started. I should have known it was coming the
next day. It just was a week early, so I wasn't.
I was like, that just seems odd. But I am
all asleep on the couch with lions like holding lion
iknodded off for like fifteen minutes, and I don't nap
right right. But other times when I feel tired, I
maybe just be being relaxed with nothing to do.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Who knows, I don't know. We need somebody and all.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Of us, please. Anybody got a wine about it? Oh?
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I have a wine about it?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Go?
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah, I know, well it's I have a couple. Actually,
I got some japan too. I have another one that
just came up, but don't forget another day. I won't.
It's not really wine about it that it's good though. Okay,
so we all live in different towns, so I have
a question for y'alla because I obviously live in the
smaller town of all of us. Okay, think so oh
for sure. No one's little smarter than I think. So,
(15:28):
well maybe not because it's growing. So me and you
kind of have the smaller two towns of like where
Jan is.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
So like, I'm not really in a town, I'm in
like a neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Right, well you, but I'm saying the city that you're in, Okay,
your city, So your city is bigger and way more
spread out, got it right? Okay, so mine is in yours,
I would say, I don't know yours as well, so
maybe that's why I can't picture it as much. But
it's very compact and all the things which I love.
Kids are running around and you'd get an extra street
over there. Though, Oh I know they're working on it's bad.
(15:57):
It's terrible, I know. And they're building and spanning all
the things. Right, It's very similar in that way they are.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah, everyone anyway, really welcome to Nashville. Yeah, in the
metro area. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
So on one hand, I love that, you know, I mean,
kids show up at our house all the time, which
I love, like I don't have to go pick them
up because most of these kids are just running them up, right,
which is all great and all fine. But have you
seen all the e bikes and like back then? So
(16:27):
do y'all have them?
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Is it your whine about it or is it mine?
Speaker 1 (16:31):
It looks like both the bars.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
I cannot stand the e byte gangs. I'm over it.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
The e byte gangs.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
They are taking over the neighbors.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Are they just in your neighborhood?
Speaker 3 (16:43):
I think so, because well, there was an accident recently
on the town past Us where a fifteen year old
girl was riding one on the shoulder of a pretty
busy road.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
And she unfortunately did pass away.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yeah I saw that, so sad.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
I don't see them on our roads as much. But
my neighborhood is flooded.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Okay, So this is where it's a little bit different,
so we can both complain about it is in Nolansville essentially,
especially well on regular bikes, and that's what they used
to do on regular bikes. You can pretty much with
the trail system, get like anywhere in town. You can
go to the restaurants, you can go to the new publics,
you can go you know all the places. Right well,
now they all have e bikes, which okay, there's different
(17:26):
classes of them, there's different speeds, there's different things. I've
learned a lot about this, okay, But they are everywhere.
They are terrifying, and no one is wearing helmets. I
can't do it. I say that I saw two kids
yes day wear a helmet with it, undone like that's
gonna do you a lot of good if you fall.
So it's just it's gotten really out of hand. It's
(17:48):
a lot of complaining on our you know, all the things.
I think Brentwood maybe has outlawed them altogether.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I did just.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Release for I don't know if it's our city or
our area, but they just released new laws around it
that the cops are coming in and starting to sow.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Ours are kind of. But now the problem is right
now as our stands is, there's three classes and most
of them are like the first and second class, which
are allowed.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
So Class one is a pedal assist. Only the motor
provides assistance only while you were pedaling and cuts off
at twenty miles per hour. Class two is throttle assisted
up to twenty miles per hour, and then there's Class
three the motor assists you up to twenty eight miles
per hour.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
So I believe Class three is not legal agreed in
our town. However, I couldn't tell you. And I'm looking
at these things if they're one, two, or three truly
where my wine comes about it because mine don't have one.
We do have an e scooter, which I already don't like.
Is like I got it for Kaden before he started driving,
so he drove it. He wrote it like two times
(19:05):
across the street to the school. Emmy will ride it
every now and then.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
How fast?
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Oh not very fast, okay, I mean probably not twenty
So they have one, not a bike scooter. They do
have an e scooter that barely gets ridden at our house,
but we do have one. That's what I'm saying. I
will say we have an e scooter, not an E bike.
Well also, and I don't even know if it goes. Yeah,
that's old and was like two hundred dollars, Like I
don't think it goes it's not one of those really
(19:31):
expensive it's.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah, it's Alie's got one of the what are those?
Like Love has one too, but it's probably it's like
made first. Yeah, yeah, it's a scooter.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Does it go on its own? It does, so technically
it is an e scooter. So like we have that too,
So we're really exactly the same. Yeah, like she can't,
I mean, can really take hurt on like the one
we have always a helmet, right, always a helmet, And
also this one really does go so like I think
she's tried to get it up to me exactly.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
So here's the thing too. In Tennessee one in class two,
which goes up to twenty miles per hour, there is
no age limit, yes required for that a class three
the minimum age is sixteen. But here's the deal class one,
in class two, you're still going twenty miles power.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
That's really fast when you don't have a helmet and
you're in the middle of the street and you're popping
wheelies and you're being ridiculous with all of your I.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Feel like they should at least like say you have
to wear a helmet.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Well, technically you're supposed to be wearing a helmet until
you're sixteen on a regular bike, but no one does
anything about it. So it's part of my wine. Most
of my wine is this, even though I have a
lot of things around. This is why are the cops
not stopping these kids? Why am I seeing all these kids?
And I understand that everyone else on that Facebook page
wants to complain about it because they just spend one
(20:47):
thousand dollars on an e bike and they don't want
the cops stopping their kids or whatever, but like you
need to do something about it, like letting them get
away with it.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Helmets are only legally required if you are under sixteen
years of age, right, Yeah, I actually of police kids
are sixteen, right, so they should be getting at your point,
the police should absolutely because isn't that the number one
I think you girls were chatting about. That's the number
one accident in the eers.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
It's like the new bites. And I don't know if
that's like a proven stat but we're hearing that from
a lot of doctors and nurses and stuff, and we've
had several accidents. We thank the Lord, have not had
anyone pass away in the on school that I know of,
but We've had several accidents and we had a really
bad one outside of the new publics And I'm not
kidding you. There's a blind spot right there. I almost
hit one the other day. Well, they're just coming in
(21:36):
so fast they're coming and you can't see.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yeah, We've got a couple kids in our neighborhood that
do it, and it's just how fast they're going. Yeah
that if, I mean, they're not maybe paying attention as
well as you know, maybe other kids might be driving them,
or maybe the you know, my son who's running around
doesn't see it, like they could get hit very easily. Yes,
a split second of not looking. And that was it.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Like, so I was actually going to bring this up
to you, not here, but to see, like, am I
a curmudgeon because I do have younger kids and you
have the older kids. So I thought, well, maybe I'm
just being eighty seven, like yeah, my name. I just
they're coming in packs right now and it's so fast
and they're not paying attention.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
They are all young, So what would you like to
see be done?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Well, here's the thing. I am definitely in the minority,
like I feel like in our you know, there are
a lot of them have it. I would like because
if parents are not going to do something about it,
if parents are not going to force their kids to
wear helmets, if parents are not are going to buy
these bikes for them, the next step to me is
(22:40):
that police need to step in if it is something
And I don't care how small it is. We live
in this small town. It's not like they're dealing with
a bunch of crime. Take the time, pull a kid over,
take them home and say this is not legal. Like,
and this is not a popular opinion probably, but I'm like,
you have to do something. You're you're they're setting a
precedent so early for them to get away with doing
(23:03):
things that at the end of the day are not allowed.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Well, I keep thinking if they weren't on a bicycle,
what would the law be, you know, like if they're
flying around on anything at twenty twenty eight miles an hour.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Right, Well, they're just they're just so dangerous. They're just
so dangerous. But my other side of that is I
also have and this is where I really got passionate
about it. I have a seventeen year old driver. Okay,
so what happens when he all of a sudden an
e bike runs out in front of him and then
he accidentally kills somebody. You know what I'm saying, Like
I'm terrified of that. Well, they're kids, their new were drivers,
(23:37):
and they are you still learning, and they are paying attention.
And now you have this added element of all these
young kids who are not paying attention whatsoever. And I'm
not saying I mean, my kid ran out in front
of a car on a bicycle and trust me, we
had a lot of consequences for that. I mean I
yanked her up. I'm not saying my kid is innocent
in any of this. They are all kids, you know,
(23:58):
they're young, they're kids. They don't think they're not ready
to drive and know the rule. I mean, you're on
a road and you don't know the law. You don't
know the rules of a road, you know what I mean.
So it's like they're not ready for that. They're not
ready to be on something going twenty miles an hour
on a road when they don't even know who has
the ride away that's or who when to go, you know, Like,
that's just so sorry. I'm very passionate about that, obviously,
(24:19):
but it's just I think that's where if parents aren't
going to do it, it's time for place to step
in and do something about it.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
I also just miss riding a bike for exercise. That's
the plain what happened to the day. Like I used
to ride my bike everywhere. I don't have mewhere motor
to get me to Lindsay's house or Mary's or whatever.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
And it wasn't long ago they were all doing that
and that's what I loved. I mean, I used to
have six bicycles on my drive, you know, because that's
everyone you know. And at first I was like, oh
my gosh, no one's parents know where they are. But
I'm like, I would take that back any day I
come back with their bicycles.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
And because it's still yes, riding bikes, yes, you could
say could still be dangerous, but you're not going twenty
miles per hour, right, And if you are, you're also
getting great cardio yeah, and you have more. It's almost
like those things are on like a cruise control, and
you know where you're not really paying attention as much
as you would if you were truly cycling and using
your brain as you're like and have to break work
(25:15):
with your feerit yea in your hands, I will say,
though I think I'm the like not Devil's advocatesse I'm
like so on the same page with you guys, And
I think at least like there should be helmets, there
should like the police and everything. But I do think
there's certain kids that can, like Okay, for example, it's like,
I'm sure the rule of a kid drive. We know
someone that has a young kid that has been driving
(25:35):
a four x four since they were like so little
because they were raised on a farm and that's like
what they know. So I do think there's certain kids
that you know, are able to maneuver things properly and respectfully.
And this is no shot against our boys, but like
I bet you Jason Legend would drive very differently to
(25:57):
like because they're just like, oh, j is more cautious.
Legend is like, let's you know. And but that's no
like dis either. It's just like I think kids are
so different, but there should still be a standard set
in like what the age should be. Like. I think
obviously I would never let Jolie be at the front
of it, like driving a jet ski like in our
little cove. I let her like practice like two seconds.
(26:20):
Obviously it's not I would never let her out in
the open world, but could she maybe manage it? Yeah,
but is she too young? One hundred percent. I would
never let her even put herself out there to do that,
you know what I mean. But like, because it's a machine.
Those things are machines and development, so I think that's
the and developmentally it's like, yes, I think Joeli would
be respectful, but she still doesn't understand the like, yes,
(26:41):
there are rules on a lake too, you gotta stay
on the right side and like this that rather and
they don't have the Like I know she's mature enough
to be able to do it, but like it's still
and you're operating a machine. And I see ebucs the
very same way because they have that motor.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
It's a machine.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Well it's like the side by side situation, like amy
drives are side by side on the land alone, which
there is an age for that, right you know, and
but on our land alone. And then she went to
a friend's house. Her friend drove the and there was
a lot of consequences for that, like there are still
you know, you even if you're even if you're know
(27:18):
how to drive one you're not going to get out
on a road on one, you know.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
I just in my opinion, right, like I don't see
our friend who allows her kids to drive the side
by side at eight whatever it is, and then go
do it run a road right, right, And.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Then you have to know that you are right and
that you are you have to be aware that you
may know how to do it, but the people that
you're with don't, you know. So I don't know. There's
just there's a lot to it. But that's my wine
about it today.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Oh, I just deeply join you hand in hand.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
I just really the helmet thing. And I know it's
like even when Jolie was on the scooter, her regular
scooter that she just uses, She's like, do I have
to wear a helmet? I was like, yes, you do, Yeah, yeah,
we do. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
We thought that for a long time because I was
legitimately the only mom I felt like that made them
wear helmet. And I'll never forget when Kayden had that
scooter and I mean he was probably fifteen and I
said put that helmet on. He was like, I'm leaving
the scooter here, and I was like fair, I mean,
because he was embarrassed and I was like, you know, no,
I did find out the other day that Emmy took
the scooter wi she hadn't done a long time, and
I asked her if she wore a helmet, and she
(28:34):
said no, and so I said, thank you for being honest,
but we're just we're gonna put that scooter back if
we don't want to wear a helmet, and so she's like,
I just you know, they don't they get embarrassed, and
so really that scooter's just sat there.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
If I had a bike, though, I would rock the helmet.
I don't have a bike to show them that, Like,
even I'm going to rock a helmet.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
I do. I don't want to wear my helmet. You're saying,
like her as the kid.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
No, I'm saying, like, if what's the difference, Are you
going to make fun of me?
Speaker 1 (29:00):
I'm saying kids would No. No, I'm saying I don't
know if kids saw an adult wearing a helmet, if
they'd be like, oh, I should wear a helmet, Kidsy'll be
like if that's an adult though they're wearing a helmet,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Trying to like model, but I I just can't because
Joli for example, would be like, well, mom, why do
you have a life fest on? Why do I have
a life fest on? Why don't you? And I was like,
because I'm an adult, and I thought about that. And
I'm like, but even if we did get struck and
then we got you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Like I thought about that too when we were there.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
It's true none of the adults wear them, but the
kids do, right, you know. But she's just at that age.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Now she's like, I don't want to wear it, right,
I have to, And they don't understand, like, truly, we
value your life more than we do our own.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Yeah, and it needs you to raise your brother because
I'm not wearing my vest.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
So when I speak to the bottom, you still, by the.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Way, you better believe when we were caught in that
storm on the leg, I was going under the thing
to grab my life fest I can't imagine. Yeah, I
was scared, yes, But guys, there was like a terrible
accident too that we can I don't even know. It
was just awful. There's a awful accident. Scare me. Oh
it was awful. It was a big storm in Wisconsin,
like three kids. It was just so sad. But I'm
(30:07):
just like the moving so fat. I mean, I was
We're literally at Mocktail Cove, like right after we podcasted,
and I'm looking up and I'm like, ol in, that
cloud does not look good. He's like, what do you think.
I was like, I think we should got to get
out of here, and we're like thirty minutes from our
lake ouse.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Oh my gosh, got to go.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
And then Joli's like, you're good. I got because like
they'll like always kind of look at like my thing,
and I'm just tracking it to be like all right,
where's the like the closest lightning. And then all of
a sudden, I was like, we got about one second
before it comes down, so we got to.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Find the doc coming out of nowhere.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
But this is the most embarrassing thing about this whole
thing is I genuinely didn't know what to do. Like
in my mind, I'm like, you're in a car, you're safe,
but they were like, you're not in water. So I'm like,
but I'm like the boat has rubber floor, but I'm like,
but it's got a metal thing underneath. So I'm like
I was chat cheap idea, just get off the water
(30:58):
as quick as possible thing with my lake neighbor friends.
And I'm just like, hey, guys, this is a really
stupid question. But like we're about to get stuck in
this storm. We're thirty minutes from our house, like we
just left the cove so like there's no houses around
the coves too, so like we're gunning it like to
like get somewhere. And I was like, what is the
like do we pull up to someone's house, do we
(31:20):
try to make it home? Like what do we do?
You know? And they're just like, get off water during
a storm. You legally can go to anybody's dock and
tie your boat up, so it's like illegal thing, so
like you can go. So if there's an open dock,
all you have to do is we have we have
rope extra rope on the boat, so you can just
go and like tie it up. She's like it happens,
and they're like, you know, where are you do need
(31:41):
to come get you? And I'm like, well, we're five
minutes from our friend Charlie's on the lake. But I
looked at Alan, I was like, we're not going to
we don't have five minutes. And then all of a sudden,
I mean the wind the like bit bimm whatever the
top thing was like, and the kids starts screaming, and
I'm just like, you know, and I was like, i
mean the lightning strike was like now like near, you
(32:01):
know what I mean, Like it shows you like how
many miles away it is. And I'm just like, there's
a dog over there. And so I just like, you know,
and I'm trying to you know, get the rope and
don't even grabbing my life ask because I'm like but
then cause I'm just like gets struck, like obviously you're
in water, like I just like didn't think about it.
And then so when we finally get under the thing
and it's just like pounding down, lightning, thundering, and I'm like, okay,
(32:22):
now what do we do? Do we stay in the
boat in the water or do we go in some
random like like now, So now I'm texting, I'm like, okay, guys,
next step, next step. I'm like, we're under somewhere, but
like it's lightning and thundering and we're on a boat
on the water, Like what do we do now?
Speaker 1 (32:38):
They take it out of the boat.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
This so this is what's interesting. The guy said, you're fine,
underneath the dock. But I'm like, we're still on water
and like a metal boat, you know. Ye all my
girlfriends on the lake said go, does the house that
you're at have an under like a patio?
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:57):
And I said, yes, that's covered. She's like, just run
over there. So I said, I'm out, Like we're girl,
let's go. So I grabbed the kids and we we
jet to you know, it's two seconds or whatever to
the little uh open patio part. And as we're running,
the sweet lady opens her door and.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Was like.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
And I was like, no, no, no, look, we're fine.
We'll just stay out here like it's all good, like
no no worries. And she's like get in here, and
like the kids were soaking wet. We were soaking, so
she gave us towels and and Alan stayed in the
boat for most of it, and then he finally walked up,
like when the rain stopped coming down as much.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
So that's terrifying.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
It was. I was like genuinely scared. I was like,
I was actually kind of scared. He's like same. I
was like, because I.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Didn't know what today, I would have no idea as
the wine down weather woman to both of you making
the call at three am.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Are you in your safe place? Can you imagine if
I was in that situation, it was quite scary. I'm
not gonna lie like it was. I am. I wouldn't.
I got scared because I just genuinely didn't know what
to do. And you have your babies. Yes, oh, I.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Would have no And I already don't know what to
do on a lake in general, Like if that happened.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
I just you, guys, I lived on a glorified pond
growing up, Like I love our lake in Michigan, but
like it was a very small place.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
But we know that it would yeah, when it was
right right, like and you could get back and die
you get thirty minutes away, Holy crap, I'm not terrified.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
But they were like the loveliest people.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
That's sweet. Well, now you know if it's storming and
you have random people coming up to you, and I
will be ready to welcome like everybody really and anybody's
wow wow on that one.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
How did we get there? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
We never know something about safety, never know.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
On that note, let's unpin some things next week, Catherine
that yeah want to check about to make sure you
write it down. I got. I guess we'll I guess
we'll talk next week. All right, see you next week.
Bye bye,
Wind down with Janet Kramer and iHeartRadio podcast, and we're
back together.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I love being together.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
It just feels better.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
It does.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
It's a little clunky on Zoom because I don't want
to overtalk, but then the dead space is like wow,
I know.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
And then it's like you start talking, and then it's
like it takes seconds for people to realize that we're
all you know. It's just it's like a conference call
that I hate. I hate conference calls.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Oh they're so annoying, so annoying. Uh huh, they're my
least favorite things to do. Ever, your least.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Favorite thing to do would be on one with my husband?
Oh no, why Actually no, I don't want to throw
the other one under the bus. But there's somebody else
that's always on his calls that is just horrible.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
The other one, Chris, don't be mad at me is he.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Just doesn't like to meet. He doesn't mute. I Also,
I will give this no if you guys use zoom
on your phones, it's so much different than zoom on
the computer. And I always feel like eyes struggle with how.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Do I have this?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yesterday she was like, I can't, I'm mute. She was trying.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I know, I don't like Google meets.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I don't either, does anybody A lot of business A
lot of companies you.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Say a lot of our business sums. I know Google
meets and it drives me nuts. I don't like it.
I don't know it. I can't find the mute button.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Well, and then someone else on that call was texting
me the entire time. I cannot unmute either, and she's
like trying to finish. She's like, I'm just gonna go away.
I was like, she's like me right, yeah, yeah, she
was there, but she went off. She's like, I can't
unmute myself, so I'm just going to go off video.
I was like, you're good and skipped texting.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
It was just funny. It's maddening, though, yes, but anyways,
so this is better. So this is fun. Girls. How
are we doing? You know? I afraid to say, well, no, no,
bottom might fallout, no no no good good like good
good good good good good good. We just like fully
finished potty training.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Oh that's so fast. It feels like I love it.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, I mean it was. I did the three day
yeah that I did with Jolie and Jays and I
so I bought Roman his potty gosh pretty much when
he turned two, because I I potty trained Jace right
it too, And I could tell when I put him
on that one potty he was just not ready. So
I'm like, okay, the shrunken little potty, we now use
(02:21):
it as a travel potty. Yeah, but yeah, like he
was just not ready.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
And way better than like just trying to fight it
if they're not ready.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
One hundred percent. And then we would start to put
him on. We got him, you know, one of the
instead of the portable one. We got him one that
he can climb up and then sit down on the toilet.
But he just wouldn't sit there long enough to like
want to be so again, just wasn't ready yet. And
then finally I was like, we have to pull the
plug at some point, we need to. We just like
(02:52):
he's going to be three in November. We got to
do it.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Oh sorry, yeah, sorry. We turned three on June ninth,
and there are nowhere.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Near fine and everything's fine.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Well listen, I will say, I really think it's mine.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
That's where you can't compare.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Oh never, every kid's different, yeah, and I don't honestly
feel that at all. My mom gil in this is
that I think she could have right around too, because
she was really wanting to. Yeah, but I again, it's
just the typical way my world is working. Like I'm
on sixty five, we don't have three days at home,
and so it actually is a little bit of a
(03:28):
non official goal for us in July, yeah, because we're
home and there's no travel, and I thought, we can
actually do this and do this well well.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
But the thing with Roman two is that he wasn't
like overly excited to do it right, do you know
what I mean? Like I had to go this is
what we're doing.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
I had to make it well, and you have to
wait for your schedule to be like where you can
have those three days to do.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Nothing, which is where key my opportunity I think.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, and Alan was lucky because the three days that
I picked, he had a couple clients in towns. So
and it's sweet though, he's just like, you did a
great job. Yeah, true, ye him. You know, he was
obviously very helpful as well. But I mean I remember
one girl I was you know what I mean, Like
when he went to go do sessions, It's like we
have to stay home, you know what I mean, and
so and obviously he needs to work and all the things.
(04:12):
So it was totally fine. But I knew for me,
those were the three days that we're going to work
the best.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I got really excited because I actually was here for
I think, like after this is actually amazing. And I
don't think this made the gram or I missed it,
but I was here for a couple of days after
the three days maybe, and I didn't know that there's
a full on harmonica party that happened. So Roman comes
out and he's like, mama pottied and Jana, I don't
(04:36):
even know where she got the harmonica. It came out
of nowhere all of a sudden, she is in full
blown harmonica whoo. And there was a party and he
was so happy, and I was like, well, I didn't
know that was.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Going to happen. Every time I play the harmonica, which
I can't play. But I was good though. That makes
it's a harmonica party. People do candy, You're like I
did candy if Jr. And the thing actually I posted
for anyone that missed. I posted on my Instagram with
like all the little tips and stuff. But it was great.
(05:08):
But I was scared though, because we were driving down
to the lake and so I'm like, this is our
first like real long. I mean it's not long. It's
two and a half hours. That's long for long, but
he can totally hold it. Yeah, which I because I
was starting to kind of time how long. In one
of the days, he went like three hours without peeing,
and I wasn't like giving him as much water as
(05:29):
like right, I was doing the first three days just
like whatever his normal would be. But in the car
he asked, He's like, I have to go peepy. So
I go, okay, So we pulled off on an exit,
took the potty out. That's amazing, and he went to
the bathroom and then, man, we've only had one mistake.
It was a little he was afraid to do number
two and so he pooped all over the floor a
(05:50):
couple times. But it's fine a.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Lot of times. A lot, I would say, majority of
the time they get potty trained for peeing, but then
the poop takes a while.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
So I had a ton of questions about and like, sorry,
Julian and Jace, but like they didn't, Yeah, they would
just they would they would go on their pull up yeah,
at night time, because they were so afraid of like
using like doing number two. Roman does it all the time.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
That's amazing because it's but I think the.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Reason why is because like I I would like sit
there with them, and I didn't. I had a lot
more patience for for Roman, I think on this round,
because it's like his belly was hurting him so bad
that I was like, buddy, I promised you, you will
feel better. I was like, just sit here with me,
and like I would squeeze his hand. I'm like, yeah,
squeeze mommy's hands. And then when he actually was squeezing,
he was like, oh oh, I was like it's okay.
(06:36):
And then like I literally had to hold him on
the potty and then he was just like I did it. Yeah,
And now he's like proud of himself. But it took
him like and then he had one like that accident
at the lake and then he's been fine.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
That's great. I will say one of my kids, I
won't even say who it was, was very scared of going.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
To a lot of body but that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
And they had had an accident in the bathtub and
it like really was like traumatizing and so there did
not want to go on that and I remember having
to hold down because it was like you hurt so bad,
like you have to go, and then eventually did and
but it was it was pretty traumatic. So to all
those out there, don't be.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I forgot there was two accidents. He did it in
the pool, so.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Common with the water. I remember. I remember reading that
because I was like, what is happening here?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
You know?
Speaker 1 (07:26):
So I think that's common too. So I think there's
a lot of common things in that. But that's great
that he's like and now it's like nothing, you know,
It's like it's great. I can't believe it's just big kid,
big kid. He still has a pull up nap time
and night there I will never like, I just don't like,
there's no point for me. Oh yeah, especially right now.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
He's also still did that some time.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
That definitely should take some time.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah, I'm fine with that. But yeah, that's what what's
going on in our lives and back from the forth,
just getting things ready. I was starting to have a moment, Okay,
I'm starting to get depressed.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
No why yeah, why, like cause you're getting back.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
And like nothing's happening. Okay, So you know, I'm like,
I'm great, I'm happy to have this time off, and
then I start to go into oh my gosh, what
is happening.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I wondered if this would hit. Yeah, I thought it
would hit a little bit later after the lake time,
like when you had like the last week at the lake.
I was like, it will be coming, you know for sure.
But I mean I get it, totally understands. So but
you seem okay.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, you know, I know we can talk about this
like so much. It's so interesting to like where on
the cycle I am that I like doomsday or get
depressed or get really tired, and then I'm like, what's
wrong with me? Am I fighting cancer? Or like I
just start to like literally like I doom scroll in
my head yea of like every worst case scenario, and
(08:50):
then I'm like what am I doing with my life?
And then it's and then it's just like the next day,
I've got energy and I'm great. But then I look
at like my flow chart or you know, just and
then it's just so interesting where that's where I'm at.
Literally today, I'm like one day I'm depressed and the
next day I'm like, I love my life. I was
ready to burn it all to the ground two days ago,
and then I got up this morning and I was like,
(09:11):
I can do this. I'm getting me abboc and I'm
doing you.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Know, like we're okay. Life is abundant. Gnny Bernstein's playing
while I'm folding.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
The laundry, Like I don't. It's so I should have
known it.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
My period came early, so I was thinking I had
more days, but it was so textbook for me those
two days that I should.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Have note, like the rage came and then it was
I wanted to is that more heightened for like, because
again I'm not in perimenopause, because my levels show that
I'm like technically age wise, I guess I am. But
like Nate always says, my blood work, isn't that. It's
like you're just you know, it's when iron or X,
Y and Z. But like it's just like, why can
one day I feel depressed and the next day I
(09:50):
we feel the top of the world, Like why is
it that?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Like it sounds very perimenopausal, I mean I would think,
but like, also, like you know, my rage before my
period was worse years ago and has gotten a little
bit better, which is odd. So I mean I still
feel that, but I mean there were some years there where,
like the rage before my period was like really bad,
certifiable flight, like really and I knew it, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Like, you know, was it connected to anything else? Though
I really don't think so, yeah, because That's what I'm
always trying to figure out, because I'm like Alan and
Eric Gray the kids, Yeah, everything's good. I'm like, why
do I It's just what might be hormonal connecting and
some something too.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah yeah, or is it part of our bracing for impact?
Sometimes I wonder that for myself, Like my default is
a little blue, So I wonder and I do think
that is like combination of childhood, and I also think
it's just maybe genetic a little.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I think my dad had a little bit of that,
the blues, the sads.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
But I sometimes wonder if I get envious to the
people that default to joy and default to glass half full.
And I try really hard again with the Gabby's and
the prayer and the you know in the movie My Body,
But sometimes I wonder if that is just my default,
Like it's like it's like posture, right, like at resting
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sometimes you just kind of like give in a little
and I'm trying to get my brain to like default
to not going there. So I wonder if it's a
little bit of that sometimes, at least for me, I
do think it can be.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
I was talking to Alan about it too, and because
I was trying to explain it to him, and he
said that hyper active and like he's like, you're so
always like go, go go, and like working and stuff.
He's like, when you do have that like down time,
because it's true, like when I don't have anything to do,
(11:41):
I'm like, I guess I get depressed because I'm not busy.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
I wonder so that's what July is for us. I
guarded it with my life like there's no travel, there's
no camps, there's I mean, they're doing like a little
sweet VBS, but that's it. And I am wondering if
when my hyper productivity goes down, if that is part
of like I'm so excited for it, and then also
I'm like what am I even doing?
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Right?
Speaker 3 (12:04):
You know?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
It's like a It's like I get such adrenaline rush,
like being on sets and like working and studying lines,
and then when it's not there, it's like.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah, yeah, I just think that's kind of more in us,
you know what I mean, and like kind of who
we are, Like it usually resets me, but if it
gets to a point then I'll start feeling it. But
like downtime does usually naturally at its state resets me.
Like if I have that downtime, I know I have
busy coming. If I don't know that I have, you know,
(12:36):
with kids or you know, busy coming, then I can
get that way. Yeah, But I just think that's just
kind of who we are because we're so hardworking. We're
just I think everybody's just so different as humans, you know,
like being alone. Like I was talking to another friend
the other day when I was like, look at me,
I was social. I came over because it's like a joke,
how I'm like not social. And I was like, I
stayed till nine, you know. And she's like, I'm so
(12:57):
proud of you. She was like, when I had friends
over the other day, the entire time I was in
the pool, I had anxiety about when they were leaving.
She's like, but that's just her personality. She wants someone
around all the time, and she's not thinking about when
they're leaving. In in the you know, where I'm like,
when are they?
Speaker 2 (13:17):
You know?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Not really, I like, and the people are there, but
well we all know. I'm like interesting, right, that's fair.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
But it's interesting because I just think this kind of
just built in who we are, and everyone's so different
and gets filled so differently, you know, And like I
get filled that way too, Like I do end up
enjoying it and I get filled up, but then I'm like, Okay,
I'm good, I've met my quota.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Yeah, I feel that way, and then I have to
decompress for.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Like days, yeah, whereas she's like, okay, who's tomorrow, you know,
And like I just I just think we're all just
very different in that way, and so I don't know
that it's as maybe pinned to something as much as
we want it to be. Sometimes I feel.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Like I need a reason. Okay, you've got low iron,
that's why you're tired, or well this, or like it's
like I need I need a to equal something. Well tired,
sure equal something for me.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
All our irons, all of our fare tin is in
the dumps, and all of us are exhausted, so that
will explain that.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
But I sometimes am I tired here we go.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
The most A type quote I could say, maybe ever,
am I tired?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Or is this relaxed? I don't know, because I don't
really relax so interesting. Is this tired?
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Or am I just enjoying a small break where there's
maybe nothing for.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Your eyes like closing when you're relaxed, I feel I
don't know, I don't. It's so like tired. Tired to
me is like when you're relaxed, and it's like I
can barely keep my eyes open.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
No, because I definitely felt that the day before the
period started. I should have known it was coming the
next day. It just was a week early, so I wasn't.
I was like, that just seems odd. But I am
all asleep on the couch with lions like holding lion
iknodded off for like fifteen minutes, and I don't nap
right right. But other times when I feel tired, I
maybe just be being relaxed with nothing to do.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Who knows, I don't know. We need somebody and all.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Of us, please. Anybody got a wine about it? Oh?
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I have a wine about it?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Go?
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah, I know, well it's I have a couple. Actually,
I got some japan too. I have another one that
just came up, but don't forget another day. I won't.
It's not really wine about it that it's good though. Okay,
so we all live in different towns, so I have
a question for y'alla because I obviously live in the
smaller town of all of us. Okay, think so oh
for sure. No one's little smarter than I think. So,
(15:28):
well maybe not because it's growing. So me and you
kind of have the smaller two towns of like where
Jan is.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
So like, I'm not really in a town, I'm in
like a neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Right, well you, but I'm saying the city that you're in, Okay,
your city, So your city is bigger and way more
spread out, got it right? Okay, so mine is in yours,
I would say, I don't know yours as well, so
maybe that's why I can't picture it as much. But
it's very compact and all the things which I love.
Kids are running around and you'd get an extra street
over there. Though, Oh I know they're working on it's bad.
(15:57):
It's terrible, I know. And they're building and spanning all
the things. Right, It's very similar in that way they are.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah, everyone anyway, really welcome to Nashville. Yeah, in the
metro area. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
So on one hand, I love that, you know, I mean,
kids show up at our house all the time, which
I love, like I don't have to go pick them
up because most of these kids are just running them up, right,
which is all great and all fine. But have you
seen all the e bikes and like back then? So
(16:27):
do y'all have them?
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Is it your whine about it or is it mine?
Speaker 1 (16:31):
It looks like both the bars.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
I cannot stand the e byte gangs. I'm over it.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
The e byte gangs.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
They are taking over the neighbors.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Are they just in your neighborhood?
Speaker 3 (16:43):
I think so, because well, there was an accident recently
on the town past Us where a fifteen year old
girl was riding one on the shoulder of a pretty
busy road.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
And she unfortunately did pass away.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yeah I saw that, so sad.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
I don't see them on our roads as much. But
my neighborhood is flooded.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Okay, So this is where it's a little bit different,
so we can both complain about it is in Nolansville essentially,
especially well on regular bikes, and that's what they used
to do on regular bikes. You can pretty much with
the trail system, get like anywhere in town. You can
go to the restaurants, you can go to the new publics,
you can go you know all the places. Right well,
now they all have e bikes, which okay, there's different
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classes of them, there's different speeds, there's different things. I've
learned a lot about this, okay, But they are everywhere.
They are terrifying, and no one is wearing helmets. I
can't do it. I say that I saw two kids
yes day wear a helmet with it, undone like that's
gonna do you a lot of good if you fall.
So it's just it's gotten really out of hand. It's
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a lot of complaining on our you know, all the things.
I think Brentwood maybe has outlawed them altogether.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I did just.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Release for I don't know if it's our city or
our area, but they just released new laws around it
that the cops are coming in and starting to sow.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Ours are kind of. But now the problem is right
now as our stands is, there's three classes and most
of them are like the first and second class, which
are allowed.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
So Class one is a pedal assist. Only the motor
provides assistance only while you were pedaling and cuts off
at twenty miles per hour. Class two is throttle assisted
up to twenty miles per hour, and then there's Class
three the motor assists you up to twenty eight miles
per hour.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
So I believe Class three is not legal agreed in
our town. However, I couldn't tell you. And I'm looking
at these things if they're one, two, or three truly
where my wine comes about it because mine don't have one.
We do have an e scooter, which I already don't like.
Is like I got it for Kaden before he started driving,
so he drove it. He wrote it like two times
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across the street to the school. Emmy will ride it
every now and then.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
How fast?
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Oh not very fast, okay, I mean probably not twenty
So they have one, not a bike scooter. They do
have an e scooter that barely gets ridden at our house,
but we do have one. That's what I'm saying. I
will say we have an e scooter, not an E bike.
Well also, and I don't even know if it goes. Yeah,
that's old and was like two hundred dollars, Like I
don't think it goes it's not one of those really
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expensive it's.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Yeah, it's Alie's got one of the what are those?
Like Love has one too, but it's probably it's like
made first. Yeah, yeah, it's a scooter.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Does it go on its own? It does, so technically
it is an e scooter. So like we have that too,
So we're really exactly the same. Yeah, like she can't,
I mean, can really take hurt on like the one
we have always a helmet, right, always a helmet, And
also this one really does go so like I think
she's tried to get it up to me exactly.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
So here's the thing too. In Tennessee one in class two,
which goes up to twenty miles per hour, there is
no age limit, yes required for that a class three
the minimum age is sixteen. But here's the deal class one,
in class two, you're still going twenty miles power.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
That's really fast when you don't have a helmet and
you're in the middle of the street and you're popping
wheelies and you're being ridiculous with all of your I.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Feel like they should at least like say you have
to wear a helmet.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Well, technically you're supposed to be wearing a helmet until
you're sixteen on a regular bike, but no one does
anything about it. So it's part of my wine. Most
of my wine is this, even though I have a
lot of things around. This is why are the cops
not stopping these kids? Why am I seeing all these kids?
And I understand that everyone else on that Facebook page
wants to complain about it because they just spend one
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thousand dollars on an e bike and they don't want
the cops stopping their kids or whatever, but like you
need to do something about it, like letting them get
away with it.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Helmets are only legally required if you are under sixteen
years of age, right, Yeah, I actually of police kids
are sixteen, right, so they should be getting at your point,
the police should absolutely because isn't that the number one
I think you girls were chatting about. That's the number
one accident in the eers.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
It's like the new bites. And I don't know if
that's like a proven stat but we're hearing that from
a lot of doctors and nurses and stuff, and we've
had several accidents. We thank the Lord, have not had
anyone pass away in the on school that I know of,
but We've had several accidents and we had a really
bad one outside of the new publics And I'm not
kidding you. There's a blind spot right there. I almost
hit one the other day. Well, they're just coming in
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so fast they're coming and you can't see.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yeah, We've got a couple kids in our neighborhood that
do it, and it's just how fast they're going. Yeah
that if, I mean, they're not maybe paying attention as
well as you know, maybe other kids might be driving them,
or maybe the you know, my son who's running around
doesn't see it, like they could get hit very easily. Yes,
a split second of not looking. And that was it.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Like, so I was actually going to bring this up
to you, not here, but to see, like, am I
a curmudgeon because I do have younger kids and you
have the older kids. So I thought, well, maybe I'm
just being eighty seven, like yeah, my name. I just
they're coming in packs right now and it's so fast
and they're not paying attention.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
They are all young, So what would you like to
see be done?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Well, here's the thing. I am definitely in the minority,
like I feel like in our you know, there are
a lot of them have it. I would like because
if parents are not going to do something about it,
if parents are not going to force their kids to
wear helmets, if parents are not are going to buy
these bikes for them, the next step to me is
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that police need to step in if it is something
And I don't care how small it is. We live
in this small town. It's not like they're dealing with
a bunch of crime. Take the time, pull a kid over,
take them home and say this is not legal. Like,
and this is not a popular opinion probably, but I'm like,
you have to do something. You're you're they're setting a
precedent so early for them to get away with doing
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things that at the end of the day are not allowed.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Well, I keep thinking if they weren't on a bicycle,
what would the law be, you know, like if they're
flying around on anything at twenty twenty eight miles an hour.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Right, Well, they're just they're just so dangerous. They're just
so dangerous. But my other side of that is I
also have and this is where I really got passionate
about it. I have a seventeen year old driver. Okay,
so what happens when he all of a sudden an
e bike runs out in front of him and then
he accidentally kills somebody. You know what I'm saying, Like
I'm terrified of that. Well, they're kids, their new were drivers,
(23:37):
and they are you still learning, and they are paying attention.
And now you have this added element of all these
young kids who are not paying attention whatsoever. And I'm
not saying I mean, my kid ran out in front
of a car on a bicycle and trust me, we
had a lot of consequences for that. I mean I
yanked her up. I'm not saying my kid is innocent
in any of this. They are all kids, you know,
(23:58):
they're young, they're kids. They don't think they're not ready
to drive and know the rule. I mean, you're on
a road and you don't know the law. You don't
know the rules of a road, you know what I mean.
So it's like they're not ready for that. They're not
ready to be on something going twenty miles an hour
on a road when they don't even know who has
the ride away that's or who when to go, you know, Like,
that's just so sorry. I'm very passionate about that, obviously,
(24:19):
but it's just I think that's where if parents aren't
going to do it, it's time for place to step
in and do something about it.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
I also just miss riding a bike for exercise. That's
the plain what happened to the day. Like I used
to ride my bike everywhere. I don't have mewhere motor
to get me to Lindsay's house or Mary's or whatever.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
And it wasn't long ago they were all doing that
and that's what I loved. I mean, I used to
have six bicycles on my drive, you know, because that's
everyone you know. And at first I was like, oh
my gosh, no one's parents know where they are. But
I'm like, I would take that back any day I
come back with their bicycles.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
And because it's still yes, riding bikes, yes, you could
say could still be dangerous, but you're not going twenty
miles per hour, right, And if you are, you're also
getting great cardio yeah, and you have more. It's almost
like those things are on like a cruise control, and
you know where you're not really paying attention as much
as you would if you were truly cycling and using
your brain as you're like and have to break work
(25:15):
with your feerit yea in your hands, I will say,
though I think I'm the like not Devil's advocatesse I'm
like so on the same page with you guys, And
I think at least like there should be helmets, there
should like the police and everything. But I do think
there's certain kids that can, like Okay, for example, it's like,
I'm sure the rule of a kid drive. We know
someone that has a young kid that has been driving
(25:35):
a four x four since they were like so little
because they were raised on a farm and that's like
what they know. So I do think there's certain kids
that you know, are able to maneuver things properly and respectfully.
And this is no shot against our boys, but like
I bet you Jason Legend would drive very differently to
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like because they're just like, oh, j is more cautious.
Legend is like, let's you know. And but that's no
like dis either. It's just like I think kids are
so different, but there should still be a standard set
in like what the age should be. Like. I think
obviously I would never let Jolie be at the front
of it, like driving a jet ski like in our
little cove. I let her like practice like two seconds.
(26:20):
Obviously it's not I would never let her out in
the open world, but could she maybe manage it? Yeah,
but is she too young? One hundred percent. I would
never let her even put herself out there to do that,
you know what I mean. But like, because it's a machine.
Those things are machines and development, so I think that's
the and developmentally it's like, yes, I think Joeli would
be respectful, but she still doesn't understand the like, yes,
(26:41):
there are rules on a lake too, you gotta stay
on the right side and like this that rather and
they don't have the Like I know she's mature enough
to be able to do it, but like it's still
and you're operating a machine. And I see ebucs the
very same way because they have that motor.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
It's a machine.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Well it's like the side by side situation, like amy
drives are side by side on the land alone, which
there is an age for that, right you know, and
but on our land alone. And then she went to
a friend's house. Her friend drove the and there was
a lot of consequences for that, like there are still
you know, you even if you're even if you're know
(27:18):
how to drive one you're not going to get out
on a road on one, you know.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
I just in my opinion, right, like I don't see
our friend who allows her kids to drive the side
by side at eight whatever it is, and then go
do it run a road right, right, And.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Then you have to know that you are right and
that you are you have to be aware that you
may know how to do it, but the people that
you're with don't, you know. So I don't know. There's
just there's a lot to it. But that's my wine
about it today.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Oh, I just deeply join you hand in hand.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
I just really the helmet thing. And I know it's
like even when Jolie was on the scooter, her regular
scooter that she just uses, She's like, do I have
to wear a helmet? I was like, yes, you do, Yeah, yeah,
we do. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
We thought that for a long time because I was
legitimately the only mom I felt like that made them
wear helmet. And I'll never forget when Kayden had that
scooter and I mean he was probably fifteen and I
said put that helmet on. He was like, I'm leaving
the scooter here, and I was like fair, I mean,
because he was embarrassed and I was like, you know, no,
I did find out the other day that Emmy took
the scooter wi she hadn't done a long time, and
I asked her if she wore a helmet, and she
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said no, and so I said, thank you for being honest,
but we're just we're gonna put that scooter back if
we don't want to wear a helmet, and so she's like,
I just you know, they don't they get embarrassed, and
so really that scooter's just sat there.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
If I had a bike, though, I would rock the helmet.
I don't have a bike to show them that, Like,
even I'm going to rock a helmet.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
I do. I don't want to wear my helmet. You're saying,
like her as the kid.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
No, I'm saying, like, if what's the difference, Are you
going to make fun of me?
Speaker 1 (29:00):
I'm saying kids would No. No, I'm saying I don't
know if kids saw an adult wearing a helmet, if
they'd be like, oh, I should wear a helmet, Kidsy'll be
like if that's an adult though they're wearing a helmet,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Trying to like model, but I I just can't because
Joli for example, would be like, well, mom, why do
you have a life fest on? Why do I have
a life fest on? Why don't you? And I was like,
because I'm an adult, and I thought about that. And
I'm like, but even if we did get struck and
then we got you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Like I thought about that too when we were there.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
It's true none of the adults wear them, but the
kids do, right, you know. But she's just at that age.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Now she's like, I don't want to wear it, right,
I have to, And they don't understand, like, truly, we
value your life more than we do our own.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Yeah, and it needs you to raise your brother because
I'm not wearing my vest.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
So when I speak to the bottom, you still, by the.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Way, you better believe when we were caught in that
storm on the leg, I was going under the thing
to grab my life fest I can't imagine. Yeah, I
was scared, yes, But guys, there was like a terrible
accident too that we can I don't even know. It
was just awful. There's a awful accident. Scare me. Oh
it was awful. It was a big storm in Wisconsin,
like three kids. It was just so sad. But I'm
(30:07):
just like the moving so fat. I mean, I was
We're literally at Mocktail Cove, like right after we podcasted,
and I'm looking up and I'm like, ol in, that
cloud does not look good. He's like, what do you think.
I was like, I think we should got to get
out of here, and we're like thirty minutes from our
lake ouse.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Oh my gosh, got to go.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
And then Joli's like, you're good. I got because like
they'll like always kind of look at like my thing,
and I'm just tracking it to be like all right,
where's the like the closest lightning. And then all of
a sudden, I was like, we got about one second
before it comes down, so we got to.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Find the doc coming out of nowhere.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
But this is the most embarrassing thing about this whole
thing is I genuinely didn't know what to do. Like
in my mind, I'm like, you're in a car, you're safe,
but they were like, you're not in water. So I'm like,
but I'm like the boat has rubber floor, but I'm like,
but it's got a metal thing underneath. So I'm like
I was chat cheap idea, just get off the water
(30:58):
as quick as possible thing with my lake neighbor friends.
And I'm just like, hey, guys, this is a really
stupid question. But like we're about to get stuck in
this storm. We're thirty minutes from our house, like we
just left the cove so like there's no houses around
the coves too, so like we're gunning it like to
like get somewhere. And I was like, what is the
like do we pull up to someone's house, do we
(31:20):
try to make it home? Like what do we do?
You know? And they're just like, get off water during
a storm. You legally can go to anybody's dock and
tie your boat up, so it's like illegal thing, so
like you can go. So if there's an open dock,
all you have to do is we have we have
rope extra rope on the boat, so you can just
go and like tie it up. She's like it happens,
and they're like, you know, where are you do need
(31:41):
to come get you? And I'm like, well, we're five
minutes from our friend Charlie's on the lake. But I
looked at Alan, I was like, we're not going to
we don't have five minutes. And then all of a sudden,
I mean the wind the like bit bimm whatever the
top thing was like, and the kids starts screaming, and
I'm just like, you know, and I was like, i
mean the lightning strike was like now like near, you
(32:01):
know what I mean, Like it shows you like how
many miles away it is. And I'm just like, there's
a dog over there. And so I just like, you know,
and I'm trying to you know, get the rope and
don't even grabbing my life ask because I'm like but
then cause I'm just like gets struck, like obviously you're
in water, like I just like didn't think about it.
And then so when we finally get under the thing
and it's just like pounding down, lightning, thundering, and I'm like, okay,
(32:22):
now what do we do? Do we stay in the
boat in the water or do we go in some
random like like now, So now I'm texting, I'm like, okay, guys,
next step, next step. I'm like, we're under somewhere, but
like it's lightning and thundering and we're on a boat
on the water, Like what do we do now?
Speaker 1 (32:38):
They take it out of the boat.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
This so this is what's interesting. The guy said, you're fine,
underneath the dock. But I'm like, we're still on water
and like a metal boat, you know. Ye all my
girlfriends on the lake said go, does the house that
you're at have an under like a patio?
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:57):
And I said, yes, that's covered. She's like, just run
over there. So I said, I'm out, Like we're girl,
let's go. So I grabbed the kids and we we
jet to you know, it's two seconds or whatever to
the little uh open patio part. And as we're running,
the sweet lady opens her door and.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Was like.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
And I was like, no, no, no, look, we're fine.
We'll just stay out here like it's all good, like
no no worries. And she's like get in here, and
like the kids were soaking wet. We were soaking, so
she gave us towels and and Alan stayed in the
boat for most of it, and then he finally walked up,
like when the rain stopped coming down as much.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
So that's terrifying.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
It was. I was like genuinely scared. I was like,
I was actually kind of scared. He's like same. I
was like, because I.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Didn't know what today, I would have no idea as
the wine down weather woman to both of you making
the call at three am.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Are you in your safe place? Can you imagine if
I was in that situation, it was quite scary. I'm
not gonna lie like it was. I am. I wouldn't.
I got scared because I just genuinely didn't know what
to do. And you have your babies. Yes, oh, I.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Would have no And I already don't know what to
do on a lake in general, Like if that happened.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
I just you, guys, I lived on a glorified pond
growing up, Like I love our lake in Michigan, but
like it was a very small place.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
But we know that it would yeah, when it was
right right, like and you could get back and die
you get thirty minutes away, Holy crap, I'm not terrified.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
But they were like the loveliest people.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
That's sweet. Well, now you know if it's storming and
you have random people coming up to you, and I
will be ready to welcome like everybody really and anybody's
wow wow on that one.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
How did we get there? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
We never know something about safety, never know.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
On that note, let's unpin some things next week, Catherine
that yeah want to check about to make sure you
write it down. I got. I guess we'll I guess
we'll talk next week. All right, see you next week.
Bye bye,
Host
Jana Kramer
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