Viral TikTok creator of "Manthropology", Holly Solem, gives us the questions you should be asking men, the best places to meet men IRL, and she explains why you should stop dating older men - and instead date younger!
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
I'm Kelly Clauren bensonosh I do Part two. We are
on the hunt for finding Love. On our second chapter,
we are here with Holly Slam, who is an amazing
TikTok creator on menthrow Apology. She's teaching us everything about
who men are and what they like. Holly give us
(00:40):
some insight and tell us some tips on some of
the questions that we should be asking men on dates.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Well, I mean, if you want to get straight to
the heart of things, if you ask.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
A man, why are you like this? Or like, why
are men like this? And if they get offended, that's
a really good tign that he's it a weirdo.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Like it shouldn't be offensive. It's that defensive thing again,
like why are you getting defensive over this? Like the
nine silly question.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I think being.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Really like straightforward and blunt has like really served me
really well because because you really just get to, like
I ask things that you're not supposed to ask, uh,
because it just it it either either people find you
amusing and they'll play along and they'll answer directly, or.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
They'll get offensive or they'll get offended.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
And then you'll realize, like this is not not good
this person's trying to hide something.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
I mean, I ask men on the street like are
you rich? I'll just ask bank account? Do you have
an ans?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
So many guys think it's really funny, and that's what
you want.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
It's supposed to be funny and playful.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
It must be like kind of like a double edged sword,
because on the one I mean, because you are beautiful,
and then you're asking these like provocative questions, they're kind
of like, wait what, And I'm sure that they're really
like they really much, really really like you. I mean,
it's just that is like that is crazy.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
They want to stay in chat. But then they're like.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Oh yeah, you're like no, no, no, coming's over. It was
thirty seconds. Sorry, I got my clip, Bye, I got
my f You're fantastic viral.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I know. I'm like, oh, how did I end up
in a position where I'm like chasing around men trying
to get them to be mean to me on camera?
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Mean, be an asshole? Please? Oh god?
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Why do you think the guys want to date these
young I'm stuck on the I'm the younger though, I mean,
because i've date I'm I'm fifty seven.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Actually I had a birth.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Excuse me fifty there, I just my age.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
See, don't lie.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I'm okay, thank you, But you know, I mean I
never lie about my age. First of all, I can't
because maybe all you to do is google me and
you'd be like, I am old you are, And I
wouldn't want to anyway. But I had my assistant put
me on the hinge and he put me as ten
years younger and he's like, well, you look ten years younger,
(03:24):
and I'm like, but I'm not ten years younger.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
And is that probably just to get a path, because
you know, people said they're age limits. And I think
so many men think that a woman in her forties
or fifties is like gross and washed up, and then
they meet you and they're like, oh, you're super hot and.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
They're like, oh my god, I heard your fifties.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Like their mind explodes, like they can't understand that, like
we're we're we're hot, Like, yeah, that's not it's not
We're not these like grandma's that they grew up watching.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
On TV portrait in the you know, seventies.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
I think it's mostly older men that think older women
are gross, and it's younger men understand that that's not
the case. You should date younger men. That's my advice
to all women, especially just all women.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Just date younger men. These old guys like we don't
want them.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
No, no, I mean I definitely I don't mind older.
I just don't like grump.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Or no grump, no cheap no either.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I mean, I think it's just like a total misconception.
I think they just don't I think they're completely confused
and they have no idea. And then there's also the
fact that like if a man is insecure or if
he feels, you know, somehow insufficient, a younger woman maybe
(04:53):
will not notice as many of his flaws.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
So is there a time of day that you do
these interviews, because I'm just wondering if you find like
that hotter guys are out like in the morning getting coffee,
or if they're like done with work, and like I'm
just wondering, like, is there a time of day. I mean,
we talked about the age.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
I'm just trying to.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Get specific here. I just want to know exactly what's
going on. I'm very good at following directions.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
I've tried to go to a lot of man events,
so I go to motorcycle rallies. I go to you know, conventions,
I go to like X games, I go to F one,
and I go to like stuff where there are going
to be a lot of dudes. Monster truck rallies like
(05:45):
just that that mostly as kids actually, so don't don't
find men a monster truck rallies unless you want a
five year old.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
No.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, So just I got like, I try not to
go out in the morning too much. I like later,
a little later in the day, and like Saturdays are
the best of course because just people are out.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
So then I've another question. I'm jumping all over the
places because like my like brain is like you know,
I'm supposed to be following questions, and I'm just like
so intrigued. So when you're at like when you're out
at bars with your friends, right and you see a
girl that's struggling, you know that's struggling. I mean you've
seen this many many times. What do you what is
(06:33):
it that she's doing and why is she doing that
if she sees that the guys aren't responding, what do you.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Mean if she's struggling?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Like meaning like shell, you can see you can see
when a girl is looking for guys. You can see
there's you know, you can see when they're like actively
pursuing men at bars and then they're just not getting
the results. What do you think that they're doing. Do
you think it's because they're like trying to be too sexual?
(07:03):
Is there is there some kind of like are you
seeing any kind of trends with women that are not
being well received?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
I think it's like a maybe it's an energetic because
like the energy of desperation is so repellent, So if
you're really like you know, desperate to find somebody, it's
just not going to happen. I think just being very
like happy within yourself and secure within yourself. If you're
(07:32):
just like having a great time with your girlfriends and
you're not like desperately seeking men, men will come to you.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
They will flock to you.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
It's an energetic of like you know, attracting rather than
like going out and seeking, because something about that pushes
away the men energetically.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah, they're like no, no, what about so just like
you should like act like you don't.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Care or I don't think it's and act like you
don't care thing.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I think it's about like, you know, staying in your
own world and like focusing on yourself. I think it's
like an inside job. I just think like the more
you're focused on yourself and your own thing.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Your yourself and your wealth and your health and your.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Like health, like living your best life.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Without worrying about what the men are.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Doing, that's gonna be the most attractive thing two men
for sure, and like just the most attractive thing at
the most magnetic thing just in the world with everything.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, you know, it's interesting because when I was down
in Palm Beach because I was filming and I was
working at the same time, Like I was kind I was,
you know, I was a little busy, but you know,
(09:02):
I'm still out and you know, after we worked, you know,
I went with some of my friends like bars and
restaurants and stuff, and I met this one guy and
I just was like, I just want to you know,
just from like I was just like, I've got to
tell these people I'm only here for two months, because
you do not want them to think that I'm like here.
(09:22):
So I was like, listen, I'm just you know, I'm
only I'm filming the show. I'm only here for two months.
And they were just like you are an awful person.
I can't believe that you're trying to like bait me
and trying to like make me like you. I'm like,
oh no, no, no, I was just being blunt and clear
that like I'm only here for two months. So if
(09:45):
you want like that like summer love and vacation fun vibe,
I'm here for but then I have to go back
to my New York life. I'm not moving here.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
They were like, these guys so aggressive with me, and
then they would be mad. They were mad. They were
like they were mad because I'm not going to be there.
I'm like, I'm sorry that I'm not wildly available for you,
like genuinely angry, genuinely angry, like like like texts like
(10:17):
I was like whoa, whoa.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Wait, guys plural.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Several guys got really like they're like you know little Yeah,
they got really upset.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I mean there's that male entitlement like.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
What I'm like, I told you would, I would you
want me to not say anything?
Speaker 3 (10:34):
That's so bonkers?
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I know what.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
See, this is why I have a show.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
That works because I'm so crazy because men are crazy.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
I love it. I love that you. I love that
you're so outgoing and that you're asking these people these questions.
I love that you're putting it out there. I love
that people are responding to you in such different ways
like I love that. I love that you know, people
are just so real with you. I mean, I was
just like, I'm like listening. I was like, are they prompted?
Speaker 4 (11:06):
What?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
So many people are like, please let this be satire.
I'm like, no, it's all I don't know real, It's
all real.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
This is you telling you Yeah, yeah, why we should?
Oh my god. Well, Holly, you are so smart and
so clever and so much fun and I'm so happy
to meet you, and congratulations on everything.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
And I'm so happy to meet you. You're so cool.
Thank you so much for talking everything in your man life.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
You guys, check out Holly's TikTok and.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Definitely definitely definitely follow her because I'm going to be
following her on the anthropology. Holly, thank you for joining
us and I do for two appreciate, thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Kelly.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Are you finding dating men in your chapter two hard
to navigate? Are you a man in your chapter two
and you're striking out when it comes to dating? We
are here to help, please send us an email, leave
us a voicemail. All the info is in the show notes,
and definitely follow us on socials. I Do Part two
(12:18):
an iHeartRadio podcast where falling in love is the main
objective
I'm Kelly Clauren bensonosh I do Part two. We are
on the hunt for finding Love. On our second chapter,
we are here with Holly Slam, who is an amazing
TikTok creator on menthrow Apology. She's teaching us everything about
who men are and what they like. Holly give us
(00:40):
some insight and tell us some tips on some of
the questions that we should be asking men on dates.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Well, I mean, if you want to get straight to
the heart of things, if you ask.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
A man, why are you like this? Or like, why
are men like this? And if they get offended, that's
a really good tign that he's it a weirdo.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Like it shouldn't be offensive. It's that defensive thing again,
like why are you getting defensive over this? Like the
nine silly question.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I think being.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Really like straightforward and blunt has like really served me
really well because because you really just get to, like
I ask things that you're not supposed to ask, uh,
because it just it it either either people find you
amusing and they'll play along and they'll answer directly, or.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
They'll get offensive or they'll get offended.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
And then you'll realize, like this is not not good
this person's trying to hide something.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
I mean, I ask men on the street like are
you rich? I'll just ask bank account? Do you have
an ans?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
So many guys think it's really funny, and that's what
you want.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
It's supposed to be funny and playful.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
It must be like kind of like a double edged sword,
because on the one I mean, because you are beautiful,
and then you're asking these like provocative questions, they're kind
of like, wait what, And I'm sure that they're really
like they really much, really really like you. I mean,
it's just that is like that is crazy.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
They want to stay in chat. But then they're like.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Oh yeah, you're like no, no, no, coming's over. It was
thirty seconds. Sorry, I got my clip, Bye, I got
my f You're fantastic viral.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I know. I'm like, oh, how did I end up
in a position where I'm like chasing around men trying
to get them to be mean to me on camera?
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Mean, be an asshole? Please? Oh god?
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Why do you think the guys want to date these
young I'm stuck on the I'm the younger though, I mean,
because i've date I'm I'm fifty seven.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Actually I had a birth.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Excuse me fifty there, I just my age.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
See, don't lie.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I'm okay, thank you, But you know, I mean I
never lie about my age. First of all, I can't
because maybe all you to do is google me and
you'd be like, I am old you are, And I
wouldn't want to anyway. But I had my assistant put
me on the hinge and he put me as ten
years younger and he's like, well, you look ten years younger,
(03:24):
and I'm like, but I'm not ten years younger.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
And is that probably just to get a path, because
you know, people said they're age limits. And I think
so many men think that a woman in her forties
or fifties is like gross and washed up, and then
they meet you and they're like, oh, you're super hot and.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
They're like, oh my god, I heard your fifties.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Like their mind explodes, like they can't understand that, like
we're we're we're hot, Like, yeah, that's not it's not
We're not these like grandma's that they grew up watching.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
On TV portrait in the you know, seventies.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
I think it's mostly older men that think older women
are gross, and it's younger men understand that that's not
the case. You should date younger men. That's my advice
to all women, especially just all women.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Just date younger men. These old guys like we don't
want them.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
No, no, I mean I definitely I don't mind older.
I just don't like grump.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Or no grump, no cheap no either.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I mean, I think it's just like a total misconception.
I think they just don't I think they're completely confused
and they have no idea. And then there's also the
fact that like if a man is insecure or if
he feels, you know, somehow insufficient, a younger woman maybe
(04:53):
will not notice as many of his flaws.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
So is there a time of day that you do
these interviews, because I'm just wondering if you find like
that hotter guys are out like in the morning getting coffee,
or if they're like done with work, and like I'm
just wondering, like, is there a time of day. I mean,
we talked about the age.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
I'm just trying to.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Get specific here. I just want to know exactly what's
going on. I'm very good at following directions.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
I've tried to go to a lot of man events,
so I go to motorcycle rallies. I go to you know, conventions,
I go to like X games, I go to F one,
and I go to like stuff where there are going
to be a lot of dudes. Monster truck rallies like
(05:45):
just that that mostly as kids actually, so don't don't
find men a monster truck rallies unless you want a
five year old.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
No.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, So just I got like, I try not to
go out in the morning too much. I like later,
a little later in the day, and like Saturdays are
the best of course because just people are out.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
So then I've another question. I'm jumping all over the
places because like my like brain is like you know,
I'm supposed to be following questions, and I'm just like
so intrigued. So when you're at like when you're out
at bars with your friends, right and you see a
girl that's struggling, you know that's struggling. I mean you've
seen this many many times. What do you what is
(06:33):
it that she's doing and why is she doing that
if she sees that the guys aren't responding, what do you.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Mean if she's struggling?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Like meaning like shell, you can see you can see
when a girl is looking for guys. You can see
there's you know, you can see when they're like actively
pursuing men at bars and then they're just not getting
the results. What do you think that they're doing. Do
you think it's because they're like trying to be too sexual?
(07:03):
Is there is there some kind of like are you
seeing any kind of trends with women that are not
being well received?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
I think it's like a maybe it's an energetic because
like the energy of desperation is so repellent, So if
you're really like you know, desperate to find somebody, it's
just not going to happen. I think just being very
like happy within yourself and secure within yourself. If you're
(07:32):
just like having a great time with your girlfriends and
you're not like desperately seeking men, men will come to you.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
They will flock to you.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
It's an energetic of like you know, attracting rather than
like going out and seeking, because something about that pushes
away the men energetically.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah, they're like no, no, what about so just like
you should like act like you don't.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Care or I don't think it's and act like you
don't care thing.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I think it's about like, you know, staying in your
own world and like focusing on yourself. I think it's
like an inside job. I just think like the more
you're focused on yourself and your own thing.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Your yourself and your wealth and your health and your.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Like health, like living your best life.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Without worrying about what the men are.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Doing, that's gonna be the most attractive thing two men
for sure, and like just the most attractive thing at
the most magnetic thing just in the world with everything.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, you know, it's interesting because when I was down
in Palm Beach because I was filming and I was
working at the same time, Like I was kind I was,
you know, I was a little busy, but you know,
(09:02):
I'm still out and you know, after we worked, you know,
I went with some of my friends like bars and
restaurants and stuff, and I met this one guy and
I just was like, I just want to you know,
just from like I was just like, I've got to
tell these people I'm only here for two months, because
you do not want them to think that I'm like here.
(09:22):
So I was like, listen, I'm just you know, I'm
only I'm filming the show. I'm only here for two months.
And they were just like you are an awful person.
I can't believe that you're trying to like bait me
and trying to like make me like you. I'm like,
oh no, no, no, I was just being blunt and clear
that like I'm only here for two months. So if
(09:45):
you want like that like summer love and vacation fun vibe,
I'm here for but then I have to go back
to my New York life. I'm not moving here.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
They were like, these guys so aggressive with me, and
then they would be mad. They were mad. They were
like they were mad because I'm not going to be there.
I'm like, I'm sorry that I'm not wildly available for you,
like genuinely angry, genuinely angry, like like like texts like
(10:17):
I was like whoa, whoa.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Wait, guys plural.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Several guys got really like they're like you know little Yeah,
they got really upset.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I mean there's that male entitlement like.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
What I'm like, I told you would, I would you
want me to not say anything?
Speaker 3 (10:34):
That's so bonkers?
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I know what.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
See, this is why I have a show.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
That works because I'm so crazy because men are crazy.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
I love it. I love that you. I love that
you're so outgoing and that you're asking these people these questions.
I love that you're putting it out there. I love
that people are responding to you in such different ways
like I love that. I love that you know, people
are just so real with you. I mean, I was
just like, I'm like listening. I was like, are they prompted?
Speaker 4 (11:06):
What?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
So many people are like, please let this be satire.
I'm like, no, it's all I don't know real, It's
all real.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
This is you telling you Yeah, yeah, why we should?
Oh my god. Well, Holly, you are so smart and
so clever and so much fun and I'm so happy
to meet you, and congratulations on everything.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
And I'm so happy to meet you. You're so cool.
Thank you so much for talking everything in your man life.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
You guys, check out Holly's TikTok and.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Definitely definitely definitely follow her because I'm going to be
following her on the anthropology. Holly, thank you for joining
us and I do for two appreciate, thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Kelly.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Are you finding dating men in your chapter two hard
to navigate? Are you a man in your chapter two
and you're striking out when it comes to dating? We
are here to help, please send us an email, leave
us a voicemail. All the info is in the show notes,
and definitely follow us on socials. I Do Part two
(12:18):
an iHeartRadio podcast where falling in love is the main
objective
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