November 12, 2025 • 28 mins
Jana is hanging out with Sandra Vergara from "Selling Sunset" and hearing all the behind the scenes tea! Sandra reveals how she joined Selling Sunset and she spills on what happens in the scenes that were cut from the final episodes.
Jana asks Sandra what her “type” is, and her answer will shock you!
Plus, we find out once and for all if Sandra had anything to do with the infamous keyed car incident.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast. Girlfriend,
have you been keeping up with Selling Sunset this season? Okay?
I have not, like I should.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I just I've The problem is I'm getting too many spoilers,
so I already know that there's a lot of drama
and a lot of tension this season.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
There really is. And some of my favorites are not
not my favorites anymore, and I hate to know. I
don't want to say, oh, talk to them. It's so
hard though, because you know.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
The worlds of reality, I know, and they're they're going
to edit to keep their cast and their characters in character,
and so that's tricky. But you know who did just
join the show, and we have one of them, the
original cast member, hopefully coming on soon and I'm really
excited to talk to her.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
We have a new guest today, rookie of the Year
who's on the show. Just stunning and she is in
the new realtor in town. She's also related to Sophia.
I can't say, I can't say. Yes. Her name is
(01:13):
Sandra and she's here, so let's get her on because
I would love to be a fly on the wall
during I want her spicy take on this guy, so
let's get her on. Hi Hei, You're gorgeous. We knew
it would be that way.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Thank you so much guys for having.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Me, I mean, thanks for coming on girl.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yeah, happy to be here.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
So that's a lot of questions. You're a hero, I know,
look at you.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
You're like, there's nothing I can't handle after being on
Selling Sunset.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
At first question though, who how did you get the
call to be on the show.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
So it's funny I went to when I got the
call to be on the show, So I went to
NI because they wanted me because I was doing like
TV hosting. And then I They're like, you need to
meet with Done and Done, the production company of Selling Sunset.
(02:12):
And I've always had like this thing with my close friends.
They've been wanting me to realistic the longest time. They
just think it's great because I have you know, I
do counseling and I have therapy counseling like sobriety coaching,
but also like sort of like not therapy as in
(02:33):
PhD because you know, we can't say that. Then they'll
be like, oh, but like I have certificate. I'm a
recovery specialist, and I mean in the entertainment world, so
it would have been like, you know, it's they're like,
you'd be amazing. So I'm like, I was going to
a really hurtful breakup. I was like completely heartbroken, and
(02:55):
when I saw the opportunity of a challenge to just
you know, finally jump into real estate in a really
odd way via selling Sunset. By the way, guys, I
never even watched a reality TV show before I glamped
at the Kardashians. But that's it, Like I never even
watched the show or anything.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
So I was like, so you knew nobody.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Then, no, nobody, nobody.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
That's also probably like the best way to go in.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Well exactly That's why I did it because I know
that reality TV part of the reason why I really
never watched it is all about like inner drama and
like stuff like that. So I was just like, if
I watched this, I'm gonna go in with these preconceived
ideas of these people. So so but mostly why I
(03:46):
said yes was the heartbreak and I needed like it
was just like the perfect opportunity to like transmute the
pain into something completely different. I I started studying, I
met with Jay, and you know he had a Jason.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I'm sure I loved you.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
You know what he did, and he was really not
a douche at all, and I thought I could be
a douche. I love you, zero dos it? Zero douche?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Well, listen, he loves a pretty girl, you know, right.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
But you know, I think he saw me as more
than that because and.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I love Jason. There's no shade against him. Jason and
I are friends. He's just an opportunist. Yeah, No, I
wouldn't say that. He just he sees beautiful women and
he's you know, listen, I love beautiful, brilliant women. That's
my toxic trait, you know, no shade, you know, yeah,
don't like.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I think what he saw in me was that I
was completely different. Yeah. Different. So here's what happens. And
it's kind of smart from for the producers and for Jason.
This show I know now, but this show, it was
already a big dick competition happening right with all these women,
(04:56):
right Andra?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Can I can you come hang out with us at
any point in your life?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
You are up our alley, you know what I mean?
So yes, I feel very comfortable talking to you guys
you get it, like, yes, I can be fully myself here.
So the big dick competition, nobody. They're not gonna put
another Chrishchelle, another Brie, another May into an already chaotic
(05:21):
like situation so perfect the diffuseor AKA me. She's into counseling.
She's so lovely, she's smart, she's funny, she tells it
like it is. Let's just insert her into a freaking
cave of lions and wolves. And I'm an idiot, not
(05:42):
not an idiot, but I was like, yeah, this is amazing.
I can, like, you know, get to know them and
see what's going on. Now. In the edit they edit it,
they remove all the boring psychological like good person scenes
and they just put bits and pieces to whatever the creators,
the producers want the story to sell.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
They want their storyline.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Of course I know that now, you know. And but
the thing is, like people think it's a documentary, it's not.
It's a reality TV show. So a lot of my
scenes where I'm doing like the mediation, they didn't make
the cut because they won drama. They want more of
like this moment. So long story short, it was a
(06:23):
fun experience. Everybody was so well received. By most, by
ninety nine percent of them, ninety five percent of them.
And I learned quick and I think, you know, I
think that these people are not going to hire a
person who has zero like I had. I had enough
knowledge in real estate, and I got my license. I
(06:44):
was when we started filming the show. I started getting
my license. You know, it takes some it's a process
of like five weeks and then boom, I got it
right after. So it's I think that that's what they
were thinking with putting me in. It's like they needed
to change the the the loop of the drama of
(07:08):
the like Nicole, Chrischelle and this and that.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Are you close with any of these girls outside of Yeah, Hey,
which ones are you close with?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
I start with that.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
With Bree, Mary Alana. I really like Emma. I'm not close,
but I'm I'm I'm getting to know her more lately.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Amanza Ah Amansa. We love her. She's she's just solid,
she's mom, she's just she's grit. I love her.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Yeah, but Mary's awesome, Like she was the best and
she's like she had to believe in me and she
told Jason, look, she's she would be an amazing addition
to this.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Well, so when you're getting briefed with all the drama
from the ladies from the show, where where do you then.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Don't get brief Mama, you don't.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Get no I know, I know. On the show they
were kind of like each girl is kind of coming
to you, telling you, telling you things.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Yeah, yeah, but that's that. By the way, they edited
that into one scene and it made it seem like
I went like like that, but he wasn't in order
at all, and producers are like, okay. So the way
it's very like a it's it's almost like a puppet show.
Reality shows. It's like you're like they try to pup
it to your people and then they're like they say
(08:27):
things to one person, say things to another, and then chaos.
So when I was asking these questions, I was literally
asking because I wanted to make my for my own opinions.
In the same moments, I asked about real estate as well.
That didn't make the cut. They just wanted to know
(08:47):
yeah me with who.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Well, Well, when you're hearing that though from those different
sides on different I guess days in hour occasions, was
there one of the storylines that in your gut you
just went, I don't really, I don't really know if
I believe that or that doesn't sit right with me.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
What they didn't see right with me was the feud
between Chelsea and Brie because of Breeze's personal life choices.
I thought that was absurd, Like.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
What I never liked how that was a handle.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Like why are you judging somebody's like romantic like life
at all? And so like that's all it was. That
that's how it all began, right, because she was very judgmental,
and so I thought that was in.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Great hasn't she said sorry though, I mean many times
to breathe?
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Yeah she has. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
So that's where it's like, all right, can we let that?
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
No anything like hatchet lie or whatever.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Oh that's done. I love that's done.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
The hatchet.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Yeah that's buried. But at the same time, when I
was listening to these women, I had zero, Like my
gut was like, okay, just be present and go with
the flow and you will make your own opinions as
you go.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
What's your opinion on Nicole?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
See I never shot with her, but if you want
to know my opinion right now, yeah, I think she
probably has two She could use more discernment into when
to stop talking.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Don't we all?
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Well, I'm going to write on my diary and just
to probably be okay with apologizing, yeah, instead of like
just beating around the bush on on and on and on.
And Mary was a dear friend of hers. I saw
on TikTok she was saying something about Mary and I
(11:02):
was like, you don't do that to your top dog.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Yeah, well that's that's tough.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
That bonds me. Man, I'm like what she said, why
are you doing that?
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Like, well, I feel like it's also for you to
It's got to be hard because whenever there's a new
castmate that comes in, new realtor in town, the ogs
aren't as kind sometimes to the new ones.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Yeah, you know, he was very kind to me, Nicole.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
She was kind to you after.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Yeah, Oh she's super nice. And all of them. The
only one that really wasn't nice to me was Chrischelle.
Why do you think that, I have no clue. I
think it's because I means she gave many reasons and
then backtracked on a lot of them as well. But
I think that mostly it's because that's her character. She's
been playing that role. If you notice. This is what
(11:53):
I'm told over and over, so it's almost like an
auto pilot. I need to, you know, be sweary or like,
you know, have an attitude towards her because eventually she'll
comment me and that then they make it so that
that happens somehow. But I don't. I have no clue. Seriously,
I'm like, she's the star of the show, like she
(12:16):
should have been the nicest.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Do you I've this is one of the things that
I have wondered, and I didn't get to ask our
last selling suns I guessed this. But do people seem
to have an on camera off camera personality or is
it just because because I do know I did briefly
reality TV and the edit is everything right, Like they
can make you, they can make you the villain and
(12:39):
they will just find whatever it is in soundbites or
whatever to create you to be the villain.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Of course you know it, yes, so is there.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
But then I also know like this has become like
a way of life for some of these women who
they're like on several seasons or whatever.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Sadly, yeah, is there an on camera.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Are you like, Hey, that's not the Actually this person
is way cooler or that's not who they are. This
is just kind of the character they play in air quotes.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
I don't really know Krashelle personally other than on camera
because I never spent any time with her at all
unless we were shooting or filming, so I can't say
how she really is. I completely disagree with she getting
involved with em as dating Blake and the way she
you know, just went about that again, pose before bros,
(13:27):
you know what I mean? Or sell you before tis
sis sis. I don't know, we'll make it.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I think we may have made that one up. But
we can put on a T shirt.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
So yeah, I'm sure that a lot of people turn
on a bit much on camera, but Alana, Brie and
and you know the rest of them seem to be
pretty accurate.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Have you closed any deals, Sandra yet? Did you sell anything?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
I just got I got my license a couple of
months ago, so I'm just getting into the oceans of
like actually getting close to people.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
This.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Yeah, it's great. I honestly I love it. I didn't
think I would enjoy it this much, and I actually do.
There's a lot of like you can use a lot
of like you have to be very empathetic and understanding
and not be a you know, a narcissist in order
to be like a good hearted realtor if you really
(14:29):
hear about the person, you know, if you really it's
not about like, oh I'm gonna get the biggest deal.
It's more about like, do you like this house? Is
it gonna be your forever house? Do you it's it's
it's there's a lot of like people reading, which is
very useful for me.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yeah, I was gonna say, you have this deep sense,
which I like, Actually, I love you more now than
I even did on selling Sunset.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
But I've been through a lot of man terrible I know,
and I.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Can tell there's such a depth to you and like
so that that you wanting people to belong in understanding
people league could go right into selling them a home.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I mean that obviously feels like an obvious fit to me.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I'm sure it did ruffle feathers though, because not only
are you stunning, you're smart, you're funny, but now you're
the new realtor in town and they're like, hang on
a second, who is this.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Who's apparently keen cars, which didn't make sense to me.
So that's the part I was.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Crazy, guys, And they edited that seemed so much because
I'm ugly crying. Thank god, they put me crying, almost
like because the reason I'm crying, you know what, why
it was, it was out of like the absurdity and
the shock and that I'm doing this. There's like this
like this woman who I'm genuinely asking her, yo, every
(15:40):
time I'm around you, you make like a weird face
and you just haven't been you know, like I don't
want to be her friend. I just didn't want drama.
I'm like, my god, this is how I am, Like,
this is how I am in my personal life, Like
I always want to clean my side of the street.
Maybe I said something of and if I don't know,
(16:01):
I wanted to take responsibility for whatever it was that
I did. That she that she had something against me
or not is simple, and it made it such a
big deal. And first she goes, i'd been nothing too
nice for nice and then I'm like and then she goes, oh,
you want to go there and go get her phone
and says.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
It felt a bit at first defensive, and I'm sure
maybe that I don't know how that was edited, but
that's and I've been on both sides of that, wanting
to be like, I feel like there's something off and
then be like, but men, my own stuff coming back
being defensive, you know, right with whatever. So I can
see kind of both sides of it. But the to
me with the key carring was that just threw me
(16:42):
for a bit of a loop.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
The worst thing is that in the moment she shows
me these tiny license mixture, I don't know who to
that person like, I don't know who the hell? Please
don't put me cursing too much. My mom said, K,
so I see this tiny you know this in Cabala
and everything. I can't be just throwing eagles.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Sandra, you are such a joy. I literally just.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Want you to move in with me. Continue. So the
tiny license plate pops up here and I'm like, f.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
With this TV show. I'm like what, I don't know
who you're talking about? And she's like she was a
neighbor of yours and she said you keep her car right,
and I'm like in shock, I'm like what is she
talking about? As I driving from Malibu, I'm thinking could
that have been Rachel. I won't say the last name
(17:32):
because I don't want to you know, sure, there was
an neighbor of mine that we It was a constant
problem because I guess she lived up and I swear
on my life, like the music wasn't loud, but I
guess her wall was really clear. And she hated Radiohead,
so she would always be like Radiohead again and I'm like,
(17:53):
I'm so sorry, can you stop replaying let down? All
these like that was our thing over and over and
she was notike, but anybody in that place, like she
was always like a problematic person, like complaining, And I remember,
like I heard about that that that thing. I guess
(18:14):
she assumed I did it. I never kid her goddamn
car over music? Come on, yeah, I'd never even keep
like like who does that? But she got a lot
of enemies.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
So then where kind of have you? I know you
said you you're not close to the but have you
guys spoken since film?
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Oh no, But here's what happens. I was looking at interim,
So somebody told me a story where she says, she
says in one of the things backtracks somehow somewhat, so, yeah,
do you make did you made up the key car thing?
And she says no, the person that used to work
for me, says up and down she did, and Sandra
(18:58):
swears up and down she did. And so the truth
it's normally somewhere in the middle. They definitely fought a lot,
so maybe her car got kid and she assumed it
was Sandra since they argued a lot, but it was
just a random person. That's my best guest, that's what
Chrischelle says. What she said then, right, And if that's
(19:18):
what she thought, why bring it onto camera like that?
That's not even a reason to be like, do you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
It's almost like what Nicole did with the affair to Emma,
because it wasn't it wasn't factual what it was just
a rumor, you know, So it's pots exactly.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
So she knows, she's good at that, she knows how
to like, you know, create momentum. And then now because
the car thing is not working anymore because it's not
really a factual thing, there's not an evidence and I
didn't do it, And it's funny to me at this point,
you know what I mean. It's like if I Jenna
or Jenna, if I or like if I tell you guys,
(20:00):
do you have purple hair? You're gonna get mad at me. No,
you think I'm like, of course.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Not right.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I did exactly, Yeah, gaslighting you. What did Sophia say
to you about Did you call her and say, hey,
(20:27):
I'm doing the show, and did she say anything?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Or you just didn't do I didn't tell her anything about.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
You knew she would say don't do it?
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Or I don't know because I didn't want any chefs
in my kitchen in.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
The moment you want to make your decision.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Yeah, but her son and I are tight, and apparently
I was telling him and he was a big fan
of the show, so he was kind of the reason
why I was like, Okay, Manola, I'm doing it. Sure,
it's great. It's a weird way to start a real
estate real estate career, but also it's good because I
think I have I'm so much more than any of that.
I mean, my core guys, I have a really like
(21:02):
traumatic childhood, and I've been through so much shit in
life that my fashion is not just too well, like
I don't selling Sunset and like this girl did this,
I mean like she's mean, Like that's both bis to me.
I'm not there for that. Well.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I think that's why I like Amanza too is because
she's had a you know, a difficult life as well,
and she's been through some stuff and yeah, to kind
of watch her just show up and do her work
and you know she yeah, she gets involved a little bit,
but it's never the center of the pot, you know.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
So Sondra tell us you've done a thousand things, You've modeled,
you're acted, you you know, you're amazing. So what is
the dream for you? Do you want to stay on
selling Sunset?
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Like if if?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
If?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Soandra gets to pick what does she do next? In
a dream world?
Speaker 3 (21:55):
I'm ready for a husband, guys.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Okay, I do not think that'll be a problem.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
You're ready thirty seven?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Oh you're not with thirty seven?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
And I want to have a kid, yes, yes, And
I want to help people. I want to help others.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Are you sober because you did mention that?
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
How many years?
Speaker 3 (22:15):
I haven't had a drink in eight years? And from
psychedelics three years?
Speaker 1 (22:20):
A girl? Who's your tizing?
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Do you have a to? Should?
Speaker 2 (22:24):
We DM right now on air? We love to siding
the DMS on behalf of I just.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Want someone who's not like shallow and superficial who doesn't
drive a Messarati, no offense, I take somebody. I just
want somebody. Nothing wrong with maserati, but you know what
I mean. I want someone with organic BD, not fake
BD SLASHD, but like real bed, someone kind, someone empathetic.
(22:55):
I don't want a spiritual like you know what I'm
talking about, like so panga, Like I'm like God planned
medicine that I don't want that. But I want somebody
deep and and somebody who has integrity and values.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
And like do you struggle finding that kind of person
out there?
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Yeah? Right now, half I haven't. I'm very picky. But
you know, my mom's like you wanted me to die
and you're not gonna have a kid.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Okay, Mom, I'm done. Is there is there someone though?
Or do you want someone out of the industry if you.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Like, yeah, yeah, out of the h Yeah yeah, I've dated.
My last one was an actor and he was great,
but like it's a crazy It's like that lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Is just yeah, so maybe like a businessman. I know,
I'm really thinking, like I think you honestly just need
to come visit.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
I'm gonna convise it. I don't know why this wasn't
in person. I should be in the middle.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Yeah you should and let us hold you. Yeah, I
think you could.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
You would find your type here maybe more we have
less maserati driving. We still have some egos to sort through.
But I think you could your discernments pretty quick. You
would just sort of right through it.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
What is the biggest trauma piece that you've had to
work through? I know big, not to like end it
on this, but I'm.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Just where you're about to get a dark sister. That
was a tough one. You want me to say the truth.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Oh, we've we've said the truth many times on this couch,
so come join us.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
No, I mean the truth, not the truth. It's all
the truth. Everything I say is the truth. As you
get I'm sure you know. You guys are brilliant people,
readers and you know people. That's why I'm like, when
I was told i'd be doing this podcast, I'm like,
f yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yes, girl.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Those two right up my alley.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Those are ogs we are and we've watched some trauma
so well.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
I think when my brother got killed when I was
nine and uh my family had to leave me, but
also in my adult life, ah, rape it was really
bad and like the way how it happened as well.
So I think those stood because it was by someone
(25:02):
that I had wasn't a relationship faith during a very
vulnerable moment, but it's I've been through a lot.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
That's why I think that's probably one of the key
things that Jan and I both enjoyed about you. And
truth be told, I'm not a huge selling Sunset fan
because it feels a little empty to me sometimes, so
I struggle and the editing. I get in my head
about what the editing is and what's the real you know,
for entertainment. Chaos for entertainment is hard for me, just
(25:33):
on my little nervous system. But there's something really special
about who you are and the way you enter the scene.
But then I wondered, on the real reel of it,
your window of tolerance has to be a much shorter.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
For these.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Chaotic, crazy storylines and women coming at you with that,
he said, she said, and you're like, listen, I've lived
like absolute real life dark life.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Really, yeah, one of the things that has helped you
not Because I was just on a walk with my
neighbor and we're talking about breathwork and how the body remembers,
and you know. I was telling her I've done EMDR
and she's like, all that stuff is great. She's like,
but your body, She's like, you still got to do
that breath work. She's like, you're still storing that that
trauma and that that is why you're having that visceral
reaction to to this one thing, because she's like, even
(26:18):
though it's not the same thing, it's still a reaction
because your body remembers that feeling.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
So wow.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
It's it's like, what is there certain things that have
helped you to because it's again it's it's a part
of you and your past and your you know, your
trauma store. So what has kind of helped you kind
of get through because you still it still can come up,
but you don't get over it. So it's been helping
you walk through.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
That's an awesome question. And I love that you said
the window of tolerance. I had a therapist, Kathleen, that
would always talk about like the window of tolerance and
dorsal and bagel and like I've done so many types
of different like therapists. Uh, what really helped me here
is Kabbalah And I got it got into it by
(27:05):
watching I'm sure you guys know him. This is everywhere now,
David GM's He's an amazing spiritual teacher. I d nd
him and he actually met with me for for a
coffee and like gave me like the instructions. So I
got really into it for a year. And I'm reading
this book by this healer called Charlie Goldsmith called Human Medicine.
(27:27):
Highly recommend him because he's talking about what she's talking
what you were talking about about, like how he sees
as this reactive behaviors of fragmentations like that come from
past trauma. That we never are mad at what's happening now,
but it's a wood coming, it's a wound coming back
(27:48):
from our past. So yeah, Human Medicine. That book.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Also, well, I am just so proud of you and
you know how you show up and I am a
huge fan of so I just you, thank you, rooting
for you, and.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
You have to get to us at the point anytime
you're in Nashville, let us know, slide in. I willkay
having me okay, thanks love having lovely dad by oh
love her. I mean just I love brilliant people can just.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Who've been through stuff, the resiliency, you know, like She's
so resilient and that's why probably a lot of those
things just don't face her as much. You know, perfect fit. Well,
I'm excited for the following season. Then for her, I
know we need more of her, Yes,
Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast. Girlfriend,
have you been keeping up with Selling Sunset this season? Okay?
I have not, like I should.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I just I've The problem is I'm getting too many spoilers,
so I already know that there's a lot of drama
and a lot of tension this season.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
There really is. And some of my favorites are not
not my favorites anymore, and I hate to know. I
don't want to say, oh, talk to them. It's so
hard though, because you know.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
The worlds of reality, I know, and they're they're going
to edit to keep their cast and their characters in character,
and so that's tricky. But you know who did just
join the show, and we have one of them, the
original cast member, hopefully coming on soon and I'm really
excited to talk to her.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
We have a new guest today, rookie of the Year
who's on the show. Just stunning and she is in
the new realtor in town. She's also related to Sophia.
I can't say, I can't say. Yes. Her name is
(01:13):
Sandra and she's here, so let's get her on because
I would love to be a fly on the wall
during I want her spicy take on this guy, so
let's get her on. Hi Hei, You're gorgeous. We knew
it would be that way.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Thank you so much guys for having.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Me, I mean, thanks for coming on girl.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yeah, happy to be here.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
So that's a lot of questions. You're a hero, I know,
look at you.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
You're like, there's nothing I can't handle after being on
Selling Sunset.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
At first question though, who how did you get the
call to be on the show.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
So it's funny I went to when I got the
call to be on the show, So I went to
NI because they wanted me because I was doing like
TV hosting. And then I They're like, you need to
meet with Done and Done, the production company of Selling Sunset.
(02:12):
And I've always had like this thing with my close friends.
They've been wanting me to realistic the longest time. They
just think it's great because I have you know, I
do counseling and I have therapy counseling like sobriety coaching,
but also like sort of like not therapy as in
(02:33):
PhD because you know, we can't say that. Then they'll
be like, oh, but like I have certificate. I'm a
recovery specialist, and I mean in the entertainment world, so
it would have been like, you know, it's they're like,
you'd be amazing. So I'm like, I was going to
a really hurtful breakup. I was like completely heartbroken, and
(02:55):
when I saw the opportunity of a challenge to just
you know, finally jump into real estate in a really
odd way via selling Sunset. By the way, guys, I
never even watched a reality TV show before I glamped
at the Kardashians. But that's it, Like I never even
watched the show or anything.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
So I was like, so you knew nobody.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Then, no, nobody, nobody.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
That's also probably like the best way to go in.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Well exactly That's why I did it because I know
that reality TV part of the reason why I really
never watched it is all about like inner drama and
like stuff like that. So I was just like, if
I watched this, I'm gonna go in with these preconceived
ideas of these people. So so but mostly why I
(03:46):
said yes was the heartbreak and I needed like it
was just like the perfect opportunity to like transmute the
pain into something completely different. I I started studying, I
met with Jay, and you know he had a Jason.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I'm sure I loved you.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
You know what he did, and he was really not
a douche at all, and I thought I could be
a douche. I love you, zero dos it? Zero douche?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Well, listen, he loves a pretty girl, you know, right.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
But you know, I think he saw me as more
than that because and.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I love Jason. There's no shade against him. Jason and
I are friends. He's just an opportunist. Yeah, No, I
wouldn't say that. He just he sees beautiful women and
he's you know, listen, I love beautiful, brilliant women. That's
my toxic trait, you know, no shade, you know, yeah,
don't like.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I think what he saw in me was that I
was completely different. Yeah. Different. So here's what happens. And
it's kind of smart from for the producers and for Jason.
This show I know now, but this show, it was
already a big dick competition happening right with all these women,
(04:56):
right Andra?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Can I can you come hang out with us at
any point in your life?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
You are up our alley, you know what I mean?
So yes, I feel very comfortable talking to you guys
you get it, like, yes, I can be fully myself here.
So the big dick competition, nobody. They're not gonna put
another Chrishchelle, another Brie, another May into an already chaotic
(05:21):
like situation so perfect the diffuseor AKA me. She's into counseling.
She's so lovely, she's smart, she's funny, she tells it
like it is. Let's just insert her into a freaking
cave of lions and wolves. And I'm an idiot, not
(05:42):
not an idiot, but I was like, yeah, this is amazing.
I can, like, you know, get to know them and
see what's going on. Now. In the edit they edit it,
they remove all the boring psychological like good person scenes
and they just put bits and pieces to whatever the creators,
the producers want the story to sell.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
They want their storyline.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Of course I know that now, you know. And but
the thing is, like people think it's a documentary, it's not.
It's a reality TV show. So a lot of my
scenes where I'm doing like the mediation, they didn't make
the cut because they won drama. They want more of
like this moment. So long story short, it was a
(06:23):
fun experience. Everybody was so well received. By most, by
ninety nine percent of them, ninety five percent of them.
And I learned quick and I think, you know, I
think that these people are not going to hire a
person who has zero like I had. I had enough
knowledge in real estate, and I got my license. I
(06:44):
was when we started filming the show. I started getting
my license. You know, it takes some it's a process
of like five weeks and then boom, I got it
right after. So it's I think that that's what they
were thinking with putting me in. It's like they needed
to change the the the loop of the drama of
(07:08):
the like Nicole, Chrischelle and this and that.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Are you close with any of these girls outside of Yeah, Hey,
which ones are you close with?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
I start with that.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
With Bree, Mary Alana. I really like Emma. I'm not close,
but I'm I'm I'm getting to know her more lately.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Amanza Ah Amansa. We love her. She's she's just solid,
she's mom, she's just she's grit. I love her.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Yeah, but Mary's awesome, Like she was the best and
she's like she had to believe in me and she
told Jason, look, she's she would be an amazing addition
to this.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Well, so when you're getting briefed with all the drama
from the ladies from the show, where where do you then.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Don't get brief Mama, you don't.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Get no I know, I know. On the show they
were kind of like each girl is kind of coming
to you, telling you, telling you things.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Yeah, yeah, but that's that. By the way, they edited
that into one scene and it made it seem like
I went like like that, but he wasn't in order
at all, and producers are like, okay. So the way
it's very like a it's it's almost like a puppet show.
Reality shows. It's like you're like they try to pup
it to your people and then they're like they say
(08:27):
things to one person, say things to another, and then chaos.
So when I was asking these questions, I was literally
asking because I wanted to make my for my own opinions.
In the same moments, I asked about real estate as well.
That didn't make the cut. They just wanted to know
(08:47):
yeah me with who.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Well, Well, when you're hearing that though from those different
sides on different I guess days in hour occasions, was
there one of the storylines that in your gut you
just went, I don't really, I don't really know if
I believe that or that doesn't sit right with me.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
What they didn't see right with me was the feud
between Chelsea and Brie because of Breeze's personal life choices.
I thought that was absurd, Like.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
What I never liked how that was a handle.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Like why are you judging somebody's like romantic like life
at all? And so like that's all it was. That
that's how it all began, right, because she was very judgmental,
and so I thought that was in.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Great hasn't she said sorry though, I mean many times
to breathe?
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Yeah she has. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
So that's where it's like, all right, can we let that?
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
No anything like hatchet lie or whatever.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Oh that's done. I love that's done.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
The hatchet.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Yeah that's buried. But at the same time, when I
was listening to these women, I had zero, Like my
gut was like, okay, just be present and go with
the flow and you will make your own opinions as
you go.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
What's your opinion on Nicole?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
See I never shot with her, but if you want
to know my opinion right now, yeah, I think she
probably has two She could use more discernment into when
to stop talking.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Don't we all?
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Well, I'm going to write on my diary and just
to probably be okay with apologizing, yeah, instead of like
just beating around the bush on on and on and on.
And Mary was a dear friend of hers. I saw
on TikTok she was saying something about Mary and I
(11:02):
was like, you don't do that to your top dog.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Yeah, well that's that's tough.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
That bonds me. Man, I'm like what she said, why
are you doing that?
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Like, well, I feel like it's also for you to
It's got to be hard because whenever there's a new
castmate that comes in, new realtor in town, the ogs
aren't as kind sometimes to the new ones.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Yeah, you know, he was very kind to me, Nicole.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
She was kind to you after.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Yeah, Oh she's super nice. And all of them. The
only one that really wasn't nice to me was Chrischelle.
Why do you think that, I have no clue. I
think it's because I means she gave many reasons and
then backtracked on a lot of them as well. But
I think that mostly it's because that's her character. She's
been playing that role. If you notice. This is what
(11:53):
I'm told over and over, so it's almost like an
auto pilot. I need to, you know, be sweary or like,
you know, have an attitude towards her because eventually she'll
comment me and that then they make it so that
that happens somehow. But I don't. I have no clue. Seriously,
I'm like, she's the star of the show, like she
(12:16):
should have been the nicest.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Do you I've this is one of the things that
I have wondered, and I didn't get to ask our
last selling suns I guessed this. But do people seem
to have an on camera off camera personality or is
it just because because I do know I did briefly
reality TV and the edit is everything right, Like they
can make you, they can make you the villain and
(12:39):
they will just find whatever it is in soundbites or
whatever to create you to be the villain.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Of course you know it, yes, so is there.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
But then I also know like this has become like
a way of life for some of these women who
they're like on several seasons or whatever.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Sadly, yeah, is there an on camera.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Are you like, Hey, that's not the Actually this person
is way cooler or that's not who they are. This
is just kind of the character they play in air quotes.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
I don't really know Krashelle personally other than on camera
because I never spent any time with her at all
unless we were shooting or filming, so I can't say
how she really is. I completely disagree with she getting
involved with em as dating Blake and the way she
you know, just went about that again, pose before bros,
(13:27):
you know what I mean? Or sell you before tis
sis sis. I don't know, we'll make it.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I think we may have made that one up. But
we can put on a T shirt.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
So yeah, I'm sure that a lot of people turn
on a bit much on camera, but Alana, Brie and
and you know the rest of them seem to be
pretty accurate.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Have you closed any deals, Sandra yet? Did you sell anything?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
I just got I got my license a couple of
months ago, so I'm just getting into the oceans of
like actually getting close to people.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
This.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Yeah, it's great. I honestly I love it. I didn't
think I would enjoy it this much, and I actually do.
There's a lot of like you can use a lot
of like you have to be very empathetic and understanding
and not be a you know, a narcissist in order
to be like a good hearted realtor if you really
(14:29):
hear about the person, you know, if you really it's
not about like, oh I'm gonna get the biggest deal.
It's more about like, do you like this house? Is
it gonna be your forever house? Do you it's it's
it's there's a lot of like people reading, which is
very useful for me.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yeah, I was gonna say, you have this deep sense,
which I like, Actually, I love you more now than
I even did on selling Sunset.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
But I've been through a lot of man terrible I know,
and I.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Can tell there's such a depth to you and like
so that that you wanting people to belong in understanding
people league could go right into selling them a home.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I mean that obviously feels like an obvious fit to me.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I'm sure it did ruffle feathers though, because not only
are you stunning, you're smart, you're funny, but now you're
the new realtor in town and they're like, hang on
a second, who is this.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Who's apparently keen cars, which didn't make sense to me.
So that's the part I was.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Crazy, guys, And they edited that seemed so much because
I'm ugly crying. Thank god, they put me crying, almost
like because the reason I'm crying, you know what, why
it was, it was out of like the absurdity and
the shock and that I'm doing this. There's like this
like this woman who I'm genuinely asking her, yo, every
(15:40):
time I'm around you, you make like a weird face
and you just haven't been you know, like I don't
want to be her friend. I just didn't want drama.
I'm like, my god, this is how I am, Like,
this is how I am in my personal life, Like
I always want to clean my side of the street.
Maybe I said something of and if I don't know,
(16:01):
I wanted to take responsibility for whatever it was that
I did. That she that she had something against me
or not is simple, and it made it such a
big deal. And first she goes, i'd been nothing too
nice for nice and then I'm like and then she goes, oh,
you want to go there and go get her phone
and says.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
It felt a bit at first defensive, and I'm sure
maybe that I don't know how that was edited, but
that's and I've been on both sides of that, wanting
to be like, I feel like there's something off and
then be like, but men, my own stuff coming back
being defensive, you know, right with whatever. So I can
see kind of both sides of it. But the to
me with the key carring was that just threw me
(16:42):
for a bit of a loop.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
The worst thing is that in the moment she shows
me these tiny license mixture, I don't know who to
that person like, I don't know who the hell? Please
don't put me cursing too much. My mom said, K,
so I see this tiny you know this in Cabala
and everything. I can't be just throwing eagles.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Sandra, you are such a joy. I literally just.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Want you to move in with me. Continue. So the
tiny license plate pops up here and I'm like, f.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
With this TV show. I'm like what, I don't know
who you're talking about? And she's like she was a
neighbor of yours and she said you keep her car right,
and I'm like in shock, I'm like what is she
talking about? As I driving from Malibu, I'm thinking could
that have been Rachel. I won't say the last name
(17:32):
because I don't want to you know, sure, there was
an neighbor of mine that we It was a constant
problem because I guess she lived up and I swear
on my life, like the music wasn't loud, but I
guess her wall was really clear. And she hated Radiohead,
so she would always be like Radiohead again and I'm like,
(17:53):
I'm so sorry, can you stop replaying let down? All
these like that was our thing over and over and
she was notike, but anybody in that place, like she
was always like a problematic person, like complaining, And I remember,
like I heard about that that that thing. I guess
(18:14):
she assumed I did it. I never kid her goddamn
car over music? Come on, yeah, I'd never even keep
like like who does that? But she got a lot
of enemies.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
So then where kind of have you? I know you
said you you're not close to the but have you
guys spoken since film?
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Oh no, But here's what happens. I was looking at interim,
So somebody told me a story where she says, she
says in one of the things backtracks somehow somewhat, so, yeah,
do you make did you made up the key car thing?
And she says no, the person that used to work
for me, says up and down she did, and Sandra
(18:58):
swears up and down she did. And so the truth
it's normally somewhere in the middle. They definitely fought a lot,
so maybe her car got kid and she assumed it
was Sandra since they argued a lot, but it was
just a random person. That's my best guest, that's what
Chrischelle says. What she said then, right, And if that's
(19:18):
what she thought, why bring it onto camera like that?
That's not even a reason to be like, do you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
It's almost like what Nicole did with the affair to Emma,
because it wasn't it wasn't factual what it was just
a rumor, you know, So it's pots exactly.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
So she knows, she's good at that, she knows how
to like, you know, create momentum. And then now because
the car thing is not working anymore because it's not
really a factual thing, there's not an evidence and I
didn't do it, And it's funny to me at this point,
you know what I mean. It's like if I Jenna
or Jenna, if I or like if I tell you guys,
(20:00):
do you have purple hair? You're gonna get mad at me. No,
you think I'm like, of course.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Not right.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I did exactly, Yeah, gaslighting you. What did Sophia say
to you about Did you call her and say, hey,
(20:27):
I'm doing the show, and did she say anything?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Or you just didn't do I didn't tell her anything about.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
You knew she would say don't do it?
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Or I don't know because I didn't want any chefs
in my kitchen in.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
The moment you want to make your decision.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Yeah, but her son and I are tight, and apparently
I was telling him and he was a big fan
of the show, so he was kind of the reason
why I was like, Okay, Manola, I'm doing it. Sure,
it's great. It's a weird way to start a real
estate real estate career, but also it's good because I
think I have I'm so much more than any of that.
I mean, my core guys, I have a really like
(21:02):
traumatic childhood, and I've been through so much shit in
life that my fashion is not just too well, like
I don't selling Sunset and like this girl did this,
I mean like she's mean, Like that's both bis to me.
I'm not there for that. Well.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I think that's why I like Amanza too is because
she's had a you know, a difficult life as well,
and she's been through some stuff and yeah, to kind
of watch her just show up and do her work
and you know she yeah, she gets involved a little bit,
but it's never the center of the pot, you know.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
So Sondra tell us you've done a thousand things, You've modeled,
you're acted, you you know, you're amazing. So what is
the dream for you? Do you want to stay on
selling Sunset?
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Like if if?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
If?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Soandra gets to pick what does she do next? In
a dream world?
Speaker 3 (21:55):
I'm ready for a husband, guys.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Okay, I do not think that'll be a problem.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
You're ready thirty seven?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Oh you're not with thirty seven?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
And I want to have a kid, yes, yes, And
I want to help people. I want to help others.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Are you sober because you did mention that?
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
How many years?
Speaker 3 (22:15):
I haven't had a drink in eight years? And from
psychedelics three years?
Speaker 1 (22:20):
A girl? Who's your tizing?
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Do you have a to? Should?
Speaker 2 (22:24):
We DM right now on air? We love to siding
the DMS on behalf of I just.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Want someone who's not like shallow and superficial who doesn't
drive a Messarati, no offense, I take somebody. I just
want somebody. Nothing wrong with maserati, but you know what
I mean. I want someone with organic BD, not fake
BD SLASHD, but like real bed, someone kind, someone empathetic.
(22:55):
I don't want a spiritual like you know what I'm
talking about, like so panga, Like I'm like God planned
medicine that I don't want that. But I want somebody
deep and and somebody who has integrity and values.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
And like do you struggle finding that kind of person
out there?
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Yeah? Right now, half I haven't. I'm very picky. But
you know, my mom's like you wanted me to die
and you're not gonna have a kid.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Okay, Mom, I'm done. Is there is there someone though?
Or do you want someone out of the industry if you.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Like, yeah, yeah, out of the h Yeah yeah, I've dated.
My last one was an actor and he was great,
but like it's a crazy It's like that lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Is just yeah, so maybe like a businessman. I know,
I'm really thinking, like I think you honestly just need
to come visit.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
I'm gonna convise it. I don't know why this wasn't
in person. I should be in the middle.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Yeah you should and let us hold you. Yeah, I
think you could.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
You would find your type here maybe more we have
less maserati driving. We still have some egos to sort through.
But I think you could your discernments pretty quick. You
would just sort of right through it.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
What is the biggest trauma piece that you've had to
work through? I know big, not to like end it
on this, but I'm.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Just where you're about to get a dark sister. That
was a tough one. You want me to say the truth.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Oh, we've we've said the truth many times on this couch,
so come join us.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
No, I mean the truth, not the truth. It's all
the truth. Everything I say is the truth. As you
get I'm sure you know. You guys are brilliant people,
readers and you know people. That's why I'm like, when
I was told i'd be doing this podcast, I'm like,
f yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yes, girl.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Those two right up my alley.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Those are ogs we are and we've watched some trauma
so well.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
I think when my brother got killed when I was
nine and uh my family had to leave me, but
also in my adult life, ah, rape it was really
bad and like the way how it happened as well.
So I think those stood because it was by someone
(25:02):
that I had wasn't a relationship faith during a very
vulnerable moment, but it's I've been through a lot.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
That's why I think that's probably one of the key
things that Jan and I both enjoyed about you. And
truth be told, I'm not a huge selling Sunset fan
because it feels a little empty to me sometimes, so
I struggle and the editing. I get in my head
about what the editing is and what's the real you know,
for entertainment. Chaos for entertainment is hard for me, just
(25:33):
on my little nervous system. But there's something really special
about who you are and the way you enter the scene.
But then I wondered, on the real reel of it,
your window of tolerance has to be a much shorter.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
For these.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Chaotic, crazy storylines and women coming at you with that,
he said, she said, and you're like, listen, I've lived
like absolute real life dark life.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Really, yeah, one of the things that has helped you
not Because I was just on a walk with my
neighbor and we're talking about breathwork and how the body remembers,
and you know. I was telling her I've done EMDR
and she's like, all that stuff is great. She's like,
but your body, She's like, you still got to do
that breath work. She's like, you're still storing that that
trauma and that that is why you're having that visceral
reaction to to this one thing, because she's like, even
(26:18):
though it's not the same thing, it's still a reaction
because your body remembers that feeling.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
So wow.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
It's it's like, what is there certain things that have
helped you to because it's again it's it's a part
of you and your past and your you know, your
trauma store. So what has kind of helped you kind
of get through because you still it still can come up,
but you don't get over it. So it's been helping
you walk through.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
That's an awesome question. And I love that you said
the window of tolerance. I had a therapist, Kathleen, that
would always talk about like the window of tolerance and
dorsal and bagel and like I've done so many types
of different like therapists. Uh, what really helped me here
is Kabbalah And I got it got into it by
(27:05):
watching I'm sure you guys know him. This is everywhere now,
David GM's He's an amazing spiritual teacher. I d nd
him and he actually met with me for for a
coffee and like gave me like the instructions. So I
got really into it for a year. And I'm reading
this book by this healer called Charlie Goldsmith called Human Medicine.
(27:27):
Highly recommend him because he's talking about what she's talking
what you were talking about about, like how he sees
as this reactive behaviors of fragmentations like that come from
past trauma. That we never are mad at what's happening now,
but it's a wood coming, it's a wound coming back
(27:48):
from our past. So yeah, Human Medicine. That book.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Also, well, I am just so proud of you and
you know how you show up and I am a
huge fan of so I just you, thank you, rooting
for you, and.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
You have to get to us at the point anytime
you're in Nashville, let us know, slide in. I willkay
having me okay, thanks love having lovely dad by oh
love her. I mean just I love brilliant people can just.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Who've been through stuff, the resiliency, you know, like She's
so resilient and that's why probably a lot of those
things just don't face her as much. You know, perfect fit. Well,
I'm excited for the following season. Then for her, I
know we need more of her, Yes,
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