March 2, 2026 • 29 mins
Jana is back on set! She can’t say too much but we get some hints about her next project, and it seems to be full of holiday cheer.
The ladies vent over frustrating babysitting situations, and we try to figure out what to do when you finally find a good sitter, but they keep the kids up way too late.
Plus, can a friendship survive a bad relationship? And what do you do when your maid of honor misses every big moment at your wedding… because she was blackout drunk?
Jana, Kathryn and Kristen get into it all while they Whine Down!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wind Down with Jane Kramer, an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Okay, we are unfortunately not together at the moment, well
not all of us.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Boop boo. I'm booping alone.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Boop and alone am So. Catherine and I are in Cleveland,
Ohio because I am filming a movie and I'm on
my lunch break right now. So and KB is just
holding holding down the four in uh Nashville.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
I'm just live on location here in Nashville. Girls. You
look so cute today, though, Jana, who are you playing?
Can you tell us anything?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
My name's Lindsay, not Lindsay Crocker, but I'm Lindsay Crocker.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Really got to the comment section? Did you see that?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I do go.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
There's somebody that was like, oh, I also broke my
arm with Lindsay Crocker's house or something. It's in our comments.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Did you read the comments?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
No? I just saw it pop up, and I was like.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
You don't usually read the comment No, but.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I thought it was funny that there's another Lindsay crack
her story, Poor Lindsay Crocker. She needs her own T shirt.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Well, No, I play, I play an assistant and see
what else can I say? I play an assistant, and
I've got a really good app idea that we should
all use one day. That is all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Is this based on a true story?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
No, it's not. Okay, I have some tinsel in it,
and it might have a few ornaments. That's about I
think we know where that goes. Yeah, as we talked
about last week, but something happened. Catherine and I had
the most like a hectic getting on the plane tropic
(01:42):
all day. It was one of those where this sweet
girl stopped us and I want to apologize to her
because okay, so we'll just set the scene. So I
say wave goodbye to the kids. They're going on the
bus or whatever. So I wave goodbye to the kiddos.
Catherine comes to grab me.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Well mind you. I sit there and I say here, and.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I was just waiting too for I'm like, oh, where's Catherine.
And then so I was five minutes late getting into
the car. I apologize because I'm like I was just waiting.
But the problem was is that Roman. We took him
to the doctors. He ended up having the flu and
an ear infection, so adi I know. So that was
the night before and so I was just you know,
(02:24):
giving him some extra love before I left, and then
so hopped in the car with her. We raned a
little bit of traffic. What happened when we got there.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Well, there was a lot of traffic, but then we
were fine. And then we checked our bags in, which
was fine. But then we were walking and I was like,
I forgot my pass support and I don't have real
I D.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
I don't either does anyone else?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I had it before COVID who are you? I know
it was that. That was when we were supposed to
do It was so lest about being like, hey, we
need to get on that, like we need to get
our real IDs. So I had it, Yeah BC.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Oh Cramer, well done that guy.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
So that happens and then I'm like, wait, I've already
dealt with I mean, I haven't done it, but i'd
heard that like you could just pay.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
So I was like it'll be fine. And right as I.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Say that, and she was like wait what and then
she goes So then we're dealing with that, and then
she was like, but where's my phone?
Speaker 1 (03:19):
And I'm like I don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
So we're laying down and she's trying to find her
phone in this sweet beautiful put together, because together together
stumps up. And she's like, I listen to you guys
every week, and we're like, I don't have a passport, and.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I was like, oh, yeah, I'm so thank you. I
can't find my phone. And then she was sweeping. But
but I feel so bad because she had kind of
said it and then like kind of walked away. So
we really didn't have that connection. But I felt bad
because I didn't even look up because I'm just like,
you know that moment we were like, where is my phone?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
I do know remember in Boston when I lost the
uber we were all together.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
It was the same, Oh that was something uh huh,
so to that sweet listener that stopped us. Sorry that
we were a train wreck in the morning at BNA,
but it was.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
We normally would have been.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
I did find the phone though, I went back to
the kiosk that's where it was at.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Yeah, it was sitting there. It was fine, and I
paid for my passport. It was all fine. It was
just really funny because it's like we're a mess. She's
literally stunning and all put together, and we're just like, ah.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I net and like a couple of ladies raping in
the airport literally.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Oh no, yeah, we made to Cleveland. The place we're
saying at it's like we're filming a horror movie. It's
really cute, but it's like a really old manner. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
And it's really hard to get ubers there.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
She so graciously let me sleep in this morning while
she got here early. But then I thought I was
never gonna make it here because you know, it's.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Really hard to find ubers don't exist.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, so that's what's happening in Cleveland. Yeah, so yeah,
it's just it's a good old time here. Well, girls,
I miss you, miss you too. What's going on in Nashville?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
We're about to have a lot of weather today.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
What do you mean kind of weather?
Speaker 3 (05:05):
You know? No, cat gets nervous for me.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Us up.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yeah, they said it could be tornadoes tonight, but lots
of rain and lots of thunder and.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Warm air, cold air.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah yeah. And I woke up with the fever, so
that's something new.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
I don't know what's happening, but I was really achy
and really just not feeling well, and I just don't
have time for that. So I love moms though, because
to our point, that we talked about a while back, Like,
I just it's just like, all right, well the show
must go on, you know, m hm, And so here
we are. I hope I don't. Yeah, well but achy
(05:42):
and a fever doesn't look good for me. Girls, we'll
see high fever.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Not like a hundred Okay, so maybe not.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
But I just don't ever fever. I actually just don't
get sick. As we know, we don't say it, we
don't do it, So I don't know. I'm just not
giving much attention. I'll get sleep tonight and we'll pray.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah sometimes about a minute.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, surely. I miss you though, and I'm ready for
us to I'll be back on the couch together.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Anything we want to whine about it today?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Mmm, her hairs are still here.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
I well, I feel like we've touched on it a
little bit before. But we had a babysitter experience.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
What happened.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
So a few nights ago, we had an event that
we needed to go to, and I said, we had
been I'm being very careful because I don't know if
these people listen. We had gotten this very highly recommended sitter. Right,
She's like the best of the best, used to be
a teacher. I don't want to give too much away
(06:38):
because she's definitely gonna know she just.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Gave it away.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
But like, okay, and I don't know what the going
rates are everywhere or what everybody's even pain. Actually I
don't even know what you guys are paying for a sitter.
But thirty five dollars an hour.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Okay, for like a night out, not like a nanny.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
No, just for like a night out.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah okay, and how old?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Well, here we go again, and hope she doesn't listen
to his own guess it wrong and really insults her.
But I would guess like late fifties, early sixties. Oh okay,
but comes with like such a you know, a resume
of experience. I thought, Well, surely, like what an enlightening experience, right,
I'd rather pay thirty five. And maybe she's like teaching
my children, like I don't know, I don't know. So
(07:22):
we're happy to do it, happy to get out do
the event. I say to her before I leave, this
is how you close the baby's blind okay, okay, and
also the big kids, we won't be late. But the
big kids can take showers and baths, and they can
get cozy on the couch and get really sleepy. And
(07:44):
I said, but they'll need to go to their beds
by Like I said, they need to go to their
beds by nine. Okay, we come home. It runs late,
as everything does. We come home at eleven pm. Every
light in my house is on. The baby's lines are
wide open. She had a hard time getting to sleep,
was the quote. And I'm like, well, of course she did,
(08:06):
and my kids are still awake eleven pm. And I
just thought, listen, I'm a really easy going mom, like
I really am. We're pretty like we have a rhythm.
We don't have We have like a rhythm, but we
don't have like hard bedtimes. Like I can be pretty,
I can adjust. It's eleven thirty at this point, every
(08:30):
light's on, my kids are awake, and you haven't even
sent a text. It's like, hey, I know you guys
might be running late. That's fine. Should I move them
to a bed? Should we try up? Nothing? Eleven thirty?
And so that's my whine about it. Where is the
text message? On one hand, I'm super grateful that this
person is like, you know what, let them have the night,
no need to bother them. But on the other hand,
(08:52):
eleven thirty feels really late. Eleven eleven thirty feels late
to me.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Did you say anything to her?
Speaker 3 (08:58):
No, I was so happy to get her up here.
I was like, well, because I'm tired, Like I'm coming home,
I'm already like you know me not a big go
out at night girl anyways, So I'm coming home and
I'm just I don't need a debrief. I need to
turn lights off, I need to wipe counters, like what
are we doing? And I don't mind ever pain, just
like we all talk about all the time. I will
(09:20):
always pay if it makes sense. I have a really
hard time with thirty five dollars an hour and kids
up like three hours past a bedtime.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
So we had a situation when Emmy was a baby.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
So this other side of this is we had a
situation Emmy was a baby. She kept texting me I
can't get her to go to bed, and I'm at
an event downtown and I'm like, I'm gonna need you
to figure it out. So then I'm stressed out the
entire night and I'm like, all right, Nick, we just
have to leave. Like I'm at like a work event
that Nick was with me and I was like, we
(09:52):
just have to leave because she won't, Like she's basically
saying you have to come home.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
I can't get her to bed.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
And so the flip side like I agree, I would
want to know, but also was like figure it out,
like giving you all the having said that when I
got home, all the lights were on.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
She's rocking her.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
She just can't go to sleep, and I'm like, yeah,
because she turned he.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
You guys, this is wild. How old was your person?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Older?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Okay, well this is what's so wild. So this just
happened for Valentine's Day. So Alan and I go out
for Valentine's Day dinner. My dad was in town with
his wife and had We had a great visit. And
they're like, hey, you know we'll babysit Roman and the kids.
You guys can go out and have Valentine's Day dinner.
We're like, oh, thank you so much. So, you know,
(10:36):
I text them what time or I tell them what
time Roman goes down to bed at and we would
be home, you know, plenty of time before the kiddos
went down. So I said, all right, you know seven o'clock.
You know he's at bath, six thirty bed seven o'clock
and then and that's it, like sound machine on, you know,
that's all there is, sleep sack boom. And so they
(10:59):
text me six thirty going Roman's down and I'm like, oh, okay,
thirty minutes early. But that's fine, you know what I mean. Like,
I'm not gonna make it big. I'm not gonna have
him go back in there and take him out. So
they keep saying he's having a tough time falling asleep.
So I'm looking at the nana and I'm like, something
looks weird on this camera and it's so strange, like
usually he goes down like that, like he's one of
(11:20):
my easiest, Like he just goes down so fast. I
come home and I'm like, okay, something has to be
wrong because this is like an hour and a half
past his bedtime. Something must be wrong. I walk in
the light was on.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
So I'm like, he sleeps with the light.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I was like, Dad, I was like, you left the
light on. Like so I'm like, I didn't think I
had to say turn the light off.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Well that's my point, Like I don't. I'm not trying
to be impossible. I just a going like at the
end of a day, doesn't everyone just kind of like
turn down the lights and get kind of cozy. Like
I even said, like they can get cozy on the couch,
they could watch a little movie. Never did I ever
think I was gonna come home to Like when I
tell you every light, I mean ceiling overhead. It's not
(12:00):
even like lamp in the corner. We had no ambiance.
This was straight Like these kids probably didn't even know
it was like a casino. They didn't even know what
time of day it was.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Maybe it just like moving forward. It's like just having
to be so clear about even though I feel like
you worries at nine o'clock bed.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
But also thirty five dollars an hour and I have
to tell you to turn the lights off.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
That's hard.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Like I've got other instances, Like I had an instance
when Kayden was a baby with my in laws and
I'm like, okay, their grandparents and like he was the
easiest kid to put down right on time, and they're
like pushing him in a stroller at eleven o'clock trying
to get him.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
To go to sleep.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Like I'm like, but at the end of day, you
are his grandparents. You clearly didn't want to just put
him in the bed and let him go to sleep
on his own. I understand that they don't love to
do that, but when you're paying somebody, and especially paying them, well,
that that gets frustrating.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
So yeah, that's my only wine about it. I just
was like, is this real life? What's happening? And then
you know me, I don't already like to leave anyway,
So then I'm like, this is why I never leave.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
This is why I think I get your point though too.
Of like, if you're paying for that's that's a high amount,
and we don't pay that high amount, but there is
a sitter that we use that is very experiences that
she is higher, but you pay for that experience. So
it's frustrating me that amount. Like I have a sitter
that charges not that much, but she doesn't put a
(13:21):
dish in the dishwater. The house is a disaster when
we get back, but like the kids love her, you
know what I mean, And she's not as much. If
she was asking for thirty five an hour, I'd be like, girlfriend,
then put a dish in the dishwasher when you're done,
you know what I mean. That's just not like her thing.
She's just the fun babysitter, you know, so it's you
kind of you would like to get what you get
out of thirty five?
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Yeah, like I there's the keep them alive babysitter, right,
Like that's the one you're describing. We have one of
those two where she's just it's like every dish that
I left when I left them for dinner, it's all
still here when I get back. Fine, but also at
a discounted rate. We love something on sale, We'll take it.
This one. This one hurt. I was like, am I
literally about to ven know you a more bggage payment?
And and my kids are up until tomorrow? What is happening?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
The headline that we have this week is the era
of teenage babysitters a thing of the past. So, you know,
babysitting rates are the highest in San Francisco, Seattle, and Honolulu.
On the other hand, you know, other places are obviously
more affordable. But they're basically saying that many factors go
into babysitters hourly wage, including age, experience, and I think
that in the responsibility number of children. The hourly average
(14:40):
rate nationwide is twenty six point twenty four for one
child twenty nine for two kids and thirty two for three,
so I mean it definitely has gone up. And I
when I was on care dot com looking for a sitter,
I mean it was twenty five for one, thirty for two,
thirty five for for three is what they were. And
(15:02):
then you know, obviously met somewhere in the middle. But
a lot of times, like I had to say, like, hey, like,
you're not going to watch the two. It's just the one,
Like I know, there's just three, but they're but in
their mind too, I think it's fair for them to
be like okay, but you know how much so like
whenever the bigs are around, you know, the person that
helps watch Roman, it's like kids come to me because
(15:24):
mommy's home, like you know what I mean. Like, and
I do think the bigs are helpful when you know
our our sitter there is there with Roman because they
like to all play together. But I still make sure
the responsibility doesn't fall on her and then it falls
on me, because I do know the responsibility taking on
two extra kids is and she should be rewarded for that,
like commated for that.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Yeah, absolutely, mm hm, I agree.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
I don't think about like sometimes your big kids are around,
but she's not watching them, right, So that's an interesting.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
So that's why like Alan and I are always like, hey, okay, Alan,
you've got jas right, and he comes home because it's
like I just don't want that legit, I want her,
and he's just say, like focused on Roman. You know,
it's just easier for all things because I don't ever
want her to feel taken advantage of two in that situation.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
So yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
It's also interesting with that because you know, people don't
hire as young as they used to.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
I mean, I started babysitting when I was ten. I was.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
I mean, I will toot my own horn, like I
am amazing with babies. But I take I accredit that
to the fact that people would hire me at ten
to come in and help take care of their babies
so they could get stuff done around the house. And
I was able to get that experience. You know, I
already knew enough obviously and could very well take care
of a baby, but it helped. So you know, Emmy
(16:41):
is now fourteen and she has babysats. She's babysat for
about two families.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
But people don't.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
But they're people I know and know her, but people
don't really hire young anymore, and so like, we just
started volunteering in the nursery for that reason, because I'm like,
I need you to be around kids, and if you
want a babysit, you know, it's hard to get those
jobs now.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
It's hard to learn that.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
So it's kind of also why I think some of
the rate is going up so much, because people are
hiring twenty year olds, and sure, like you do need
to make twenty thirty dollars an hour when you're twenty
something years old and working versus a kid that's in
high school and is just making extra money, you know,
I agree, so brings that cost up. I think the
(17:30):
age really depends on the age of the kids. Having
said that, I was twelve, I was watching two year olds.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Oh you know what I mean. But there are many
times when I'd be like scared at the house babysitting,
you know, these younger kids. I couldn't get the babies down.
I remember I felt so bad one time I was
babysitting around a kid of Roman's age. The baby would
not stop screaming. I'm twelve years old. I really don't
know what to do. I didn't have any younger siblings.
I was the youngest, so I had to call the
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mom and she was so I just remember her being
so mad at me that I was just like, I
don't know what to do, Like he just kept screaming
and screaming. She never called me again, but like, and
then I honestly stopped babysitting at that point because I
was just like, I suck, like I don't.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Well, and every kid is so different.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Like the first child that emmy baby sat, she stays
up really really late. But the parents came home really
late and she could not get her to go to bed,
and I was like, I can come help you.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I'm very close.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Or she was like, I'm just gonna stay in bed
with her, and I was like, I think that that's
a good choice. She's like, every time I leave, she
starts screaming, she won't go to sleep, and I was like,
I think that that's a good choice. So she just
stayed in bed with her till they came and I said,
just tell them I'm so sorry every time I left
the room. And that may not been what she wanted
to do, but that's what she felt the most comfortable
with because the child wasn't, so I think you have
to keep that in mind too. Sometimes I think the
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babysitters are like, I feel better about doing this, like
laying in bed with her.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
They may not love that.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Then her just screaming for three hours, you know, and jesting.
But then she babysat for another family and it was
a baby. He was like one and had zero issues.
Put them to bed, went straight to bed.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
So you know, because the shade was down, the light
was off. That'll do it. The old trick.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Hey, do you guys see the headline that Selling Sunset
star Emma Hernan and her boyfriend Blake Davis split after
two years? Do you all see the reunion? By the way,
when they were when Krishelle and yeah, Emma were talking
and obviously there was a lot of back and forth.
What happens do you think now to the friendship? Do
you think Emma and krishall come back together or do
you think there's that hurt feelings on both sides and
(19:26):
that friendship is forever than tainted.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
I think it's probably too far gone.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
I think because it went past just I don't want
you to be with him, and you don't want me
to be with him, and I'm with him because there
were so many things said and so many things said
on social media that I don't know if they can
really take it all back. They could try, and I
hope they do. I mean, they were, you know, seem
to be big friends, but I don't know. I don't
(19:50):
know that this changes anything for them.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I do think there's a point in friendships, though, like
or relationships, when so much gets exchanged that I don't
know how you reverse that. It's like to your point,
like when we're saying this much and at social media
and there's like the whole world's watching, it's a hard comeback.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
It is. I was just trying to think about like
our friendship. I know that we, you know, have moments
of things, and I know you didn't love people that
I've been with, But I do think if a friendship
still had that love that I think anything can be repaired,
if you know, I don't know, I just I just
(20:30):
believe that. I think I do think things can be repaired,
and I always want that to be repaired. But I've
also lost friendships and we never could. We tried, we'd
sit down. We had remember meeting that one friend in
San Francisco and we sat down and had you know,
a nice, a nice little lunch, but it was never
the same and we never were connected because we both
had hurt from both sides.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
I also think we're just kind of different people. Like
our personality types are different than listen. They're all on
TV for a reason, right, Like there's a personality type.
There's I'll go down in flames for saying it this way,
but like there's egos, and there's narcissism, and there's you know,
like I could never survive in a friend group like that.
Like our friend group is really like sweet and whole
(21:12):
for the most part. Like if we heard a feeling,
we'd be so devastated.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Well, I think there's lines you don't cross. Okay, I
cannot imagine anyone that you dated or married or did
whatever I might not agree with or what they did.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
But going to social media.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
That's what I was gonna say. I don't think you'd
ever go to those things.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Yeah, and there's lines you know, you don't cross, like me,
and you could not be friends tomorrow. And I would
never take your dirty laundry and just throw it out there.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yeah, you keep every voice memo.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I think we need to talk about that. It's really
frustrating me.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
But anyway, Yeah, so it's like that's where I feel
like they cross some lines, like you can apologize and
maybe forgive each other.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Which I do think they should.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Yeah, but is every is it ever going to be
the same.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
I don't think you can trust anymore.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
That would be my big character stuff in there too.
Someone believes something about someone else's character, the person believes
something else, and I think that's Yeah, that's tricky too.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Yeah, agreed.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
I do think that this.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Is probably a positive and that this wasn't the healthiest
relationship for Emma, So I wish her well.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I love Emma. I mean I love Kroshelle too. Yeah,
you know, just we know obviously we want everyone to
be happy, and the things that we saw.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Right from what you could see on TV, it didn't
seem like.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
The And he's younger than her, right, isn't he a
bit younger?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I believe? So yeah, yeah, hey guys, I'm recently married
and the wedding was amazing, but my maid of honor
got black out drunk and ended up being sick in
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the bathroom throughout the whole dinner and then going to
bed until around ten. She missed the first dance and
the majority of the evening, and when she returned she
was totally out of it and sat on her phone
for the remainder of the evening. I don't want to
hold a grudge, but I'm selfishly annoyed that she wasn't
able to support me on my big day and I
wasn't able to dance with my best friend. What's your
thoughts on this and how do I move on without
holding any resentment, especially when her wedding comes around.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Speaking of friendships, I didn't.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Have the conversation and just be like this because if not,
she's going to have so much resentment on her friend's
wedding to be like, well, I was there, I was
present for you. I didn't get blackout drunk, I didn't
do this. So I think being like, hey, this really
hurt my feelings that you did this. I didn't feel
like you were there and I wanted to have those
moments of dancing with you. And maybe her best friend
was going through something and she can say, oh my gosh,
(23:41):
I'm so sorry. Hopefully that's what she does instead of
saying something defensive but I think it's I would one
hundred percent have the conversation.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yeah, oh, I think you have to.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
I mean, I think, you know, to an extent, some
things were out of her control. Obviously once she got
to that really drunk place, there's no talking any sense.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
And to anyone in that situation.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
But she made the decision to get it to that point,
you know, and so I think you have to have
the conversation. You have to say to her, and they
hopefully then it's like, yeah, things were out and understanding
that to a point things are out of her control,
she didn't probably think ahead and think if I drink this,
I'm not gonna be able to dance with her. I'm
not gonna. I don't think the intention was there to
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not be there for her. She just made a mistake
and took things too far and then things were out
of her control. And then hopefully showing a better example
without the resentment for the next one and not a
doing the same thing or being like, look look.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
At me, I'm not drunk. You know.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
But such a good point, you know, it's I don't know,
but yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Very good point. For sure. It's not what she wanted
to ruin her wedding, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
People like when you're in that situation, especially when you
get drunk. At that point, they're not thinking about it.
And I highly doubt if it's your best friend, they're thinking, oh,
I'm going to get drunk tonight, so I can't partake
in all of the activity.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
And it might be like something too where like hearing
that from someone you love so much is like a
big pivot point too, like I know, and listen, I
had party days right like I feel but I know
that if I hurt someone's feelings, this isn't like I
just I know there's been situations like this where afterwards
you're like, man, that really Like if I wasn't drinking, though,
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that wouldn't have happened. And that's like a very pivotal
moment too, And like the growing up and the maturing
to go listen, maybe I just don't do that all
with alcohol, or maybe I have rules around it or something,
So that could be like a good conversation for her.
Just in general, I.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Mean, even at our age, so many people still do
not know their limits, still do not know when to stop.
I mean I deal with this with friends a lot.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Actually, Really, if your world. They don't drink a lot.
At home, they don't.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
So you get out, you're with your friends, you're sitting
around a lot of the day and you have a drink,
and you know it happens all the time, and there's
never any intention to get to that point, but sometimes
it just goes there so fast. I'm like, people do
not understand their limits. It is unbelievable to see that.
Like I'm not saying I'm any better or I'm whatever,
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but like I generally know to stop after a certain
point and when I feel a certain way, And it's
just some people just don't, no matter how old they are,
they don't know that point and when to stop and
keep it at a certain place.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
I will say too, there could be a really beautiful
little redemption, the little friendship love story. If you told
her how you were feeling. When it is her wedding
and you guys have that fun dance together, you guys
can look at each other and I have that moment
of like, I love you, bestie, and I love you,
and like, that's that's your moment that you got to have.
Unfortunately you didn't get it on your wedding, but you'll
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get it at hers and then you'll that'll almost like
heal that little piece for you. But you have to
have the conbo before to have that piece healed.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
And the dance, Yeah, I say, you have two dances
at her wedding well for her.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
And the attention is to have fun. I mean it's
their wedding, so I get it.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
But that just means that you put on a hell
of a good party. Friend, I know, right if she
had a good old open bar, I know in the bathroom. Okay,
speaking of drinking, God, it's been a minute.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Yeah, I don't do well with it.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
We opened up the most gorgeous bottle of wine on
Valentine's Day. Preston was like, I just want to have
a sip with you, and I had like half a
glass and that was that and then the rest is wasted.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
I didn't to do wine anything.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I don't. I cannot tell you the last I mean
maybe we had a little bit on New Year's That
was that New Year's night. I had like a half
a glass. Yeah, I had a drop of alcohol. For
Valentine's Day. I did a little fake margarita.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Oh cute.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
I can do like cocktails that have a good bit
of water in them because it keeps me hydrated. That's
what I'm learning. Like if I have a cocktail that
it's like a lot of water with a little you
know whatever, some fruit and all that, then I can
do that.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
The wine just makes me feel bad. I can't do
it anymore.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
So I think as a whole America. I just watch
the saw statistic the other day that said that like
drinking is down by like something like fifty percent or
something like. The growth of people not drinking is so
much bigger now because it's just we're learning more. We're
understanding how it affects our bodies. People are more focused on.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
How my alcoholic I mean, the alcohol fails are like
map down, so our yeah for next door, we get
our non alcoholic wines from. He was just like, this
is what is selling the most is the non alcoholic stuff.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
The doctors aren't telling us to have a glass to
day anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Not the good one.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Tricky time.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Well, ladies, thanks for doing this over zoom. Thank you
guys for listening over our little zoomy zoom. And next
time we'll be home.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
So oh, I need us back in the same room.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I love you too, quick shoot and we're out of here.
Feel better, keepy, feel better.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
I love you. Yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna just take
myself to bed.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Okay, hey, good good.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
I love you girls. I miss you. Have fun but
not too much. Save the middle seat for me.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
We will, Bye girl.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
I love you. M
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Okay, we are unfortunately not together at the moment, well
not all of us.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Boop boo. I'm booping alone.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Boop and alone am So. Catherine and I are in Cleveland,
Ohio because I am filming a movie and I'm on
my lunch break right now. So and KB is just
holding holding down the four in uh Nashville.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
I'm just live on location here in Nashville. Girls. You
look so cute today, though, Jana, who are you playing?
Can you tell us anything?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
My name's Lindsay, not Lindsay Crocker, but I'm Lindsay Crocker.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Really got to the comment section? Did you see that?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I do go.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
There's somebody that was like, oh, I also broke my
arm with Lindsay Crocker's house or something. It's in our comments.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Did you read the comments?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
No? I just saw it pop up, and I was like.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
You don't usually read the comment No, but.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I thought it was funny that there's another Lindsay crack
her story, Poor Lindsay Crocker. She needs her own T shirt.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Well, No, I play, I play an assistant and see
what else can I say? I play an assistant, and
I've got a really good app idea that we should
all use one day. That is all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Is this based on a true story?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
No, it's not. Okay, I have some tinsel in it,
and it might have a few ornaments. That's about I
think we know where that goes. Yeah, as we talked
about last week, but something happened. Catherine and I had
the most like a hectic getting on the plane tropic
(01:42):
all day. It was one of those where this sweet
girl stopped us and I want to apologize to her
because okay, so we'll just set the scene. So I
say wave goodbye to the kids. They're going on the
bus or whatever. So I wave goodbye to the kiddos.
Catherine comes to grab me.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Well mind you. I sit there and I say here, and.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I was just waiting too for I'm like, oh, where's Catherine.
And then so I was five minutes late getting into
the car. I apologize because I'm like I was just waiting.
But the problem was is that Roman. We took him
to the doctors. He ended up having the flu and
an ear infection, so adi I know. So that was
the night before and so I was just you know,
(02:24):
giving him some extra love before I left, and then
so hopped in the car with her. We raned a
little bit of traffic. What happened when we got there.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Well, there was a lot of traffic, but then we
were fine. And then we checked our bags in, which
was fine. But then we were walking and I was like,
I forgot my pass support and I don't have real
I D.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
I don't either does anyone else?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I had it before COVID who are you? I know
it was that. That was when we were supposed to
do It was so lest about being like, hey, we
need to get on that, like we need to get
our real IDs. So I had it, Yeah BC.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Oh Cramer, well done that guy.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
So that happens and then I'm like, wait, I've already
dealt with I mean, I haven't done it, but i'd
heard that like you could just pay.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
So I was like it'll be fine. And right as I.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Say that, and she was like wait what and then
she goes So then we're dealing with that, and then
she was like, but where's my phone?
Speaker 1 (03:19):
And I'm like I don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
So we're laying down and she's trying to find her
phone in this sweet beautiful put together, because together together
stumps up. And she's like, I listen to you guys
every week, and we're like, I don't have a passport, and.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I was like, oh, yeah, I'm so thank you. I
can't find my phone. And then she was sweeping. But
but I feel so bad because she had kind of
said it and then like kind of walked away. So
we really didn't have that connection. But I felt bad
because I didn't even look up because I'm just like,
you know that moment we were like, where is my phone?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
I do know remember in Boston when I lost the
uber we were all together.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
It was the same, Oh that was something uh huh,
so to that sweet listener that stopped us. Sorry that
we were a train wreck in the morning at BNA,
but it was.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
We normally would have been.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
I did find the phone though, I went back to
the kiosk that's where it was at.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Yeah, it was sitting there. It was fine, and I
paid for my passport. It was all fine. It was
just really funny because it's like we're a mess. She's
literally stunning and all put together, and we're just like, ah.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
I net and like a couple of ladies raping in
the airport literally.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Oh no, yeah, we made to Cleveland. The place we're
saying at it's like we're filming a horror movie. It's
really cute, but it's like a really old manner. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
And it's really hard to get ubers there.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
She so graciously let me sleep in this morning while
she got here early. But then I thought I was
never gonna make it here because you know, it's.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Really hard to find ubers don't exist.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, so that's what's happening in Cleveland. Yeah, so yeah,
it's just it's a good old time here. Well, girls,
I miss you, miss you too. What's going on in Nashville?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
We're about to have a lot of weather today.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
What do you mean kind of weather?
Speaker 3 (05:05):
You know? No, cat gets nervous for me.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Us up.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yeah, they said it could be tornadoes tonight, but lots
of rain and lots of thunder and.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Warm air, cold air.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah yeah. And I woke up with the fever, so
that's something new.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
I don't know what's happening, but I was really achy
and really just not feeling well, and I just don't
have time for that. So I love moms though, because
to our point, that we talked about a while back, Like,
I just it's just like, all right, well the show
must go on, you know, m hm, And so here
we are. I hope I don't. Yeah, well but achy
(05:42):
and a fever doesn't look good for me. Girls, we'll
see high fever.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Not like a hundred Okay, so maybe not.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
But I just don't ever fever. I actually just don't
get sick. As we know, we don't say it, we
don't do it, So I don't know. I'm just not
giving much attention. I'll get sleep tonight and we'll pray.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah sometimes about a minute.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, surely. I miss you though, and I'm ready for
us to I'll be back on the couch together.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Anything we want to whine about it today?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Mmm, her hairs are still here.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
I well, I feel like we've touched on it a
little bit before. But we had a babysitter experience.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
What happened.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
So a few nights ago, we had an event that
we needed to go to, and I said, we had
been I'm being very careful because I don't know if
these people listen. We had gotten this very highly recommended sitter. Right,
She's like the best of the best, used to be
a teacher. I don't want to give too much away
(06:38):
because she's definitely gonna know she just.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Gave it away.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
But like, okay, and I don't know what the going
rates are everywhere or what everybody's even pain. Actually I
don't even know what you guys are paying for a sitter.
But thirty five dollars an hour.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Okay, for like a night out, not like a nanny.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
No, just for like a night out.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah okay, and how old?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Well, here we go again, and hope she doesn't listen
to his own guess it wrong and really insults her.
But I would guess like late fifties, early sixties. Oh okay,
but comes with like such a you know, a resume
of experience. I thought, Well, surely, like what an enlightening experience, right,
I'd rather pay thirty five. And maybe she's like teaching
my children, like I don't know, I don't know. So
(07:22):
we're happy to do it, happy to get out do
the event. I say to her before I leave, this
is how you close the baby's blind okay, okay, and
also the big kids, we won't be late. But the
big kids can take showers and baths, and they can
get cozy on the couch and get really sleepy. And
(07:44):
I said, but they'll need to go to their beds
by Like I said, they need to go to their
beds by nine. Okay, we come home. It runs late,
as everything does. We come home at eleven pm. Every
light in my house is on. The baby's lines are
wide open. She had a hard time getting to sleep,
was the quote. And I'm like, well, of course she did,
(08:06):
and my kids are still awake eleven pm. And I
just thought, listen, I'm a really easy going mom, like
I really am. We're pretty like we have a rhythm.
We don't have We have like a rhythm, but we
don't have like hard bedtimes. Like I can be pretty,
I can adjust. It's eleven thirty at this point, every
(08:30):
light's on, my kids are awake, and you haven't even
sent a text. It's like, hey, I know you guys
might be running late. That's fine. Should I move them
to a bed? Should we try up? Nothing? Eleven thirty?
And so that's my whine about it. Where is the
text message? On one hand, I'm super grateful that this
person is like, you know what, let them have the night,
no need to bother them. But on the other hand,
(08:52):
eleven thirty feels really late. Eleven eleven thirty feels late
to me.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Did you say anything to her?
Speaker 3 (08:58):
No, I was so happy to get her up here.
I was like, well, because I'm tired, Like I'm coming home,
I'm already like you know me not a big go
out at night girl anyways, So I'm coming home and
I'm just I don't need a debrief. I need to
turn lights off, I need to wipe counters, like what
are we doing? And I don't mind ever pain, just
like we all talk about all the time. I will
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always pay if it makes sense. I have a really
hard time with thirty five dollars an hour and kids
up like three hours past a bedtime.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
So we had a situation when Emmy was a baby.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
So this other side of this is we had a
situation Emmy was a baby. She kept texting me I
can't get her to go to bed, and I'm at
an event downtown and I'm like, I'm gonna need you
to figure it out. So then I'm stressed out the
entire night and I'm like, all right, Nick, we just
have to leave. Like I'm at like a work event
that Nick was with me and I was like, we
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just have to leave because she won't, Like she's basically
saying you have to come home.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
I can't get her to bed.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
And so the flip side like I agree, I would
want to know, but also was like figure it out,
like giving you all the having said that when I
got home, all the lights were on.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
She's rocking her.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
She just can't go to sleep, and I'm like, yeah,
because she turned he.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
You guys, this is wild. How old was your person?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Older?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Okay, well this is what's so wild. So this just
happened for Valentine's Day. So Alan and I go out
for Valentine's Day dinner. My dad was in town with
his wife and had We had a great visit. And
they're like, hey, you know we'll babysit Roman and the kids.
You guys can go out and have Valentine's Day dinner.
We're like, oh, thank you so much. So, you know,
(10:36):
I text them what time or I tell them what
time Roman goes down to bed at and we would
be home, you know, plenty of time before the kiddos
went down. So I said, all right, you know seven o'clock.
You know he's at bath, six thirty bed seven o'clock
and then and that's it, like sound machine on, you know,
that's all there is, sleep sack boom. And so they
(10:59):
text me six thirty going Roman's down and I'm like, oh, okay,
thirty minutes early. But that's fine, you know what I mean. Like,
I'm not gonna make it big. I'm not gonna have
him go back in there and take him out. So
they keep saying he's having a tough time falling asleep.
So I'm looking at the nana and I'm like, something
looks weird on this camera and it's so strange, like
usually he goes down like that, like he's one of
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my easiest, Like he just goes down so fast. I
come home and I'm like, okay, something has to be
wrong because this is like an hour and a half
past his bedtime. Something must be wrong. I walk in
the light was on.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
So I'm like, he sleeps with the light.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I was like, Dad, I was like, you left the
light on. Like so I'm like, I didn't think I
had to say turn the light off.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Well that's my point, Like I don't. I'm not trying
to be impossible. I just a going like at the
end of a day, doesn't everyone just kind of like
turn down the lights and get kind of cozy. Like
I even said, like they can get cozy on the couch,
they could watch a little movie. Never did I ever
think I was gonna come home to Like when I
tell you every light, I mean ceiling overhead. It's not
(12:00):
even like lamp in the corner. We had no ambiance.
This was straight Like these kids probably didn't even know
it was like a casino. They didn't even know what
time of day it was.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Maybe it just like moving forward. It's like just having
to be so clear about even though I feel like
you worries at nine o'clock bed.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
But also thirty five dollars an hour and I have
to tell you to turn the lights off.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
That's hard.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Like I've got other instances, Like I had an instance
when Kayden was a baby with my in laws and
I'm like, okay, their grandparents and like he was the
easiest kid to put down right on time, and they're
like pushing him in a stroller at eleven o'clock trying
to get him.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
To go to sleep.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Like I'm like, but at the end of day, you
are his grandparents. You clearly didn't want to just put
him in the bed and let him go to sleep
on his own. I understand that they don't love to
do that, but when you're paying somebody, and especially paying them, well,
that that gets frustrating.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
So yeah, that's my only wine about it. I just
was like, is this real life? What's happening? And then
you know me, I don't already like to leave anyway,
So then I'm like, this is why I never leave.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
This is why I think I get your point though too.
Of like, if you're paying for that's that's a high amount,
and we don't pay that high amount, but there is
a sitter that we use that is very experiences that
she is higher, but you pay for that experience. So
it's frustrating me that amount. Like I have a sitter
that charges not that much, but she doesn't put a
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dish in the dishwater. The house is a disaster when
we get back, but like the kids love her, you
know what I mean, And she's not as much. If
she was asking for thirty five an hour, I'd be like, girlfriend,
then put a dish in the dishwasher when you're done,
you know what I mean. That's just not like her thing.
She's just the fun babysitter, you know, so it's you
kind of you would like to get what you get
out of thirty five?
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Yeah, like I there's the keep them alive babysitter, right,
Like that's the one you're describing. We have one of
those two where she's just it's like every dish that
I left when I left them for dinner, it's all
still here when I get back. Fine, but also at
a discounted rate. We love something on sale, We'll take it.
This one. This one hurt. I was like, am I
literally about to ven know you a more bggage payment?
And and my kids are up until tomorrow? What is happening?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
The headline that we have this week is the era
of teenage babysitters a thing of the past. So, you know,
babysitting rates are the highest in San Francisco, Seattle, and Honolulu.
On the other hand, you know, other places are obviously
more affordable. But they're basically saying that many factors go
into babysitters hourly wage, including age, experience, and I think
that in the responsibility number of children. The hourly average
(14:40):
rate nationwide is twenty six point twenty four for one
child twenty nine for two kids and thirty two for three,
so I mean it definitely has gone up. And I
when I was on care dot com looking for a sitter,
I mean it was twenty five for one, thirty for two,
thirty five for for three is what they were. And
(15:02):
then you know, obviously met somewhere in the middle. But
a lot of times, like I had to say, like, hey, like,
you're not going to watch the two. It's just the one,
Like I know, there's just three, but they're but in
their mind too, I think it's fair for them to
be like okay, but you know how much so like
whenever the bigs are around, you know, the person that
helps watch Roman, it's like kids come to me because
(15:24):
mommy's home, like you know what I mean. Like, and
I do think the bigs are helpful when you know
our our sitter there is there with Roman because they
like to all play together. But I still make sure
the responsibility doesn't fall on her and then it falls
on me, because I do know the responsibility taking on
two extra kids is and she should be rewarded for that,
like commated for that.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Yeah, absolutely, mm hm, I agree.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
I don't think about like sometimes your big kids are around,
but she's not watching them, right, So that's an interesting.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
So that's why like Alan and I are always like, hey, okay, Alan,
you've got jas right, and he comes home because it's
like I just don't want that legit, I want her,
and he's just say, like focused on Roman. You know,
it's just easier for all things because I don't ever
want her to feel taken advantage of two in that situation.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
So yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
It's also interesting with that because you know, people don't
hire as young as they used to.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
I mean, I started babysitting when I was ten. I was.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
I mean, I will toot my own horn, like I
am amazing with babies. But I take I accredit that
to the fact that people would hire me at ten
to come in and help take care of their babies
so they could get stuff done around the house. And
I was able to get that experience. You know, I
already knew enough obviously and could very well take care
of a baby, but it helped. So you know, Emmy
(16:41):
is now fourteen and she has babysats. She's babysat for
about two families.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
But people don't.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
But they're people I know and know her, but people
don't really hire young anymore, and so like, we just
started volunteering in the nursery for that reason, because I'm like,
I need you to be around kids, and if you
want a babysit, you know, it's hard to get those
jobs now.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
It's hard to learn that.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
So it's kind of also why I think some of
the rate is going up so much, because people are
hiring twenty year olds, and sure, like you do need
to make twenty thirty dollars an hour when you're twenty
something years old and working versus a kid that's in
high school and is just making extra money, you know,
I agree, so brings that cost up. I think the
(17:30):
age really depends on the age of the kids. Having
said that, I was twelve, I was watching two year olds.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Oh you know what I mean. But there are many
times when I'd be like scared at the house babysitting,
you know, these younger kids. I couldn't get the babies down.
I remember I felt so bad one time I was
babysitting around a kid of Roman's age. The baby would
not stop screaming. I'm twelve years old. I really don't
know what to do. I didn't have any younger siblings.
I was the youngest, so I had to call the
(17:56):
mom and she was so I just remember her being
so mad at me that I was just like, I
don't know what to do, Like he just kept screaming
and screaming. She never called me again, but like, and
then I honestly stopped babysitting at that point because I
was just like, I suck, like I don't.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Well, and every kid is so different.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Like the first child that emmy baby sat, she stays
up really really late. But the parents came home really
late and she could not get her to go to bed,
and I was like, I can come help you.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I'm very close.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Or she was like, I'm just gonna stay in bed
with her, and I was like, I think that that's
a good choice. She's like, every time I leave, she
starts screaming, she won't go to sleep, and I was like,
I think that that's a good choice. So she just
stayed in bed with her till they came and I said,
just tell them I'm so sorry every time I left
the room. And that may not been what she wanted
to do, but that's what she felt the most comfortable
with because the child wasn't, so I think you have
to keep that in mind too. Sometimes I think the
(18:44):
babysitters are like, I feel better about doing this, like
laying in bed with her.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
They may not love that.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Then her just screaming for three hours, you know, and jesting.
But then she babysat for another family and it was
a baby. He was like one and had zero issues.
Put them to bed, went straight to bed.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
So you know, because the shade was down, the light
was off. That'll do it. The old trick.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Hey, do you guys see the headline that Selling Sunset
star Emma Hernan and her boyfriend Blake Davis split after
two years? Do you all see the reunion? By the way,
when they were when Krishelle and yeah, Emma were talking
and obviously there was a lot of back and forth.
What happens do you think now to the friendship? Do
you think Emma and krishall come back together or do
you think there's that hurt feelings on both sides and
(19:26):
that friendship is forever than tainted.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
I think it's probably too far gone.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
I think because it went past just I don't want
you to be with him, and you don't want me
to be with him, and I'm with him because there
were so many things said and so many things said
on social media that I don't know if they can
really take it all back. They could try, and I
hope they do. I mean, they were, you know, seem
to be big friends, but I don't know. I don't
(19:50):
know that this changes anything for them.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
I do think there's a point in friendships, though, like
or relationships, when so much gets exchanged that I don't
know how you reverse that. It's like to your point,
like when we're saying this much and at social media
and there's like the whole world's watching, it's a hard comeback.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
It is. I was just trying to think about like
our friendship. I know that we, you know, have moments
of things, and I know you didn't love people that
I've been with, But I do think if a friendship
still had that love that I think anything can be repaired,
if you know, I don't know, I just I just
(20:30):
believe that. I think I do think things can be repaired,
and I always want that to be repaired. But I've
also lost friendships and we never could. We tried, we'd
sit down. We had remember meeting that one friend in
San Francisco and we sat down and had you know,
a nice, a nice little lunch, but it was never
the same and we never were connected because we both
had hurt from both sides.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
I also think we're just kind of different people. Like
our personality types are different than listen. They're all on
TV for a reason, right, Like there's a personality type.
There's I'll go down in flames for saying it this way,
but like there's egos, and there's narcissism, and there's you know,
like I could never survive in a friend group like that.
Like our friend group is really like sweet and whole
(21:12):
for the most part. Like if we heard a feeling,
we'd be so devastated.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Well, I think there's lines you don't cross. Okay, I
cannot imagine anyone that you dated or married or did
whatever I might not agree with or what they did.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
But going to social media.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
That's what I was gonna say. I don't think you'd
ever go to those things.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Yeah, and there's lines you know, you don't cross, like me,
and you could not be friends tomorrow. And I would
never take your dirty laundry and just throw it out there.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yeah, you keep every voice memo.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I think we need to talk about that. It's really
frustrating me.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
But anyway, Yeah, so it's like that's where I feel
like they cross some lines, like you can apologize and
maybe forgive each other.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Which I do think they should.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Yeah, but is every is it ever going to be
the same.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
I don't think you can trust anymore.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
That would be my big character stuff in there too.
Someone believes something about someone else's character, the person believes
something else, and I think that's Yeah, that's tricky too.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Yeah, agreed.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
I do think that this.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Is probably a positive and that this wasn't the healthiest
relationship for Emma, So I wish her well.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I love Emma. I mean I love Kroshelle too. Yeah,
you know, just we know obviously we want everyone to
be happy, and the things that we saw.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Right from what you could see on TV, it didn't
seem like.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
The And he's younger than her, right, isn't he a
bit younger?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I believe? So yeah, yeah, hey guys, I'm recently married
and the wedding was amazing, but my maid of honor
got black out drunk and ended up being sick in
(22:54):
the bathroom throughout the whole dinner and then going to
bed until around ten. She missed the first dance and
the majority of the evening, and when she returned she
was totally out of it and sat on her phone
for the remainder of the evening. I don't want to
hold a grudge, but I'm selfishly annoyed that she wasn't
able to support me on my big day and I
wasn't able to dance with my best friend. What's your
thoughts on this and how do I move on without
holding any resentment, especially when her wedding comes around.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Speaking of friendships, I didn't.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Have the conversation and just be like this because if not,
she's going to have so much resentment on her friend's
wedding to be like, well, I was there, I was
present for you. I didn't get blackout drunk, I didn't
do this. So I think being like, hey, this really
hurt my feelings that you did this. I didn't feel
like you were there and I wanted to have those
moments of dancing with you. And maybe her best friend
was going through something and she can say, oh my gosh,
(23:41):
I'm so sorry. Hopefully that's what she does instead of
saying something defensive but I think it's I would one
hundred percent have the conversation.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yeah, oh, I think you have to.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
I mean, I think, you know, to an extent, some
things were out of her control. Obviously once she got
to that really drunk place, there's no talking any sense.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
And to anyone in that situation.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
But she made the decision to get it to that point,
you know, and so I think you have to have
the conversation. You have to say to her, and they
hopefully then it's like, yeah, things were out and understanding
that to a point things are out of her control,
she didn't probably think ahead and think if I drink this,
I'm not gonna be able to dance with her. I'm
not gonna. I don't think the intention was there to
(24:25):
not be there for her. She just made a mistake
and took things too far and then things were out
of her control. And then hopefully showing a better example
without the resentment for the next one and not a
doing the same thing or being like, look look.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
At me, I'm not drunk. You know.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
But such a good point, you know, it's I don't know,
but yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Very good point. For sure. It's not what she wanted
to ruin her wedding, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
People like when you're in that situation, especially when you
get drunk. At that point, they're not thinking about it.
And I highly doubt if it's your best friend, they're thinking, oh,
I'm going to get drunk tonight, so I can't partake
in all of the activity.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
And it might be like something too where like hearing
that from someone you love so much is like a
big pivot point too, like I know, and listen, I
had party days right like I feel but I know
that if I hurt someone's feelings, this isn't like I
just I know there's been situations like this where afterwards
you're like, man, that really Like if I wasn't drinking, though,
(25:23):
that wouldn't have happened. And that's like a very pivotal
moment too, And like the growing up and the maturing
to go listen, maybe I just don't do that all
with alcohol, or maybe I have rules around it or something,
So that could be like a good conversation for her.
Just in general, I.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Mean, even at our age, so many people still do
not know their limits, still do not know when to stop.
I mean I deal with this with friends a lot.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Actually, Really, if your world. They don't drink a lot.
At home, they don't.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
So you get out, you're with your friends, you're sitting
around a lot of the day and you have a drink,
and you know it happens all the time, and there's
never any intention to get to that point, but sometimes
it just goes there so fast. I'm like, people do
not understand their limits. It is unbelievable to see that.
Like I'm not saying I'm any better or I'm whatever,
(26:12):
but like I generally know to stop after a certain
point and when I feel a certain way, And it's
just some people just don't, no matter how old they are,
they don't know that point and when to stop and
keep it at a certain place.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
I will say too, there could be a really beautiful
little redemption, the little friendship love story. If you told
her how you were feeling. When it is her wedding
and you guys have that fun dance together, you guys
can look at each other and I have that moment
of like, I love you, bestie, and I love you,
and like, that's that's your moment that you got to have.
Unfortunately you didn't get it on your wedding, but you'll
(26:47):
get it at hers and then you'll that'll almost like
heal that little piece for you. But you have to
have the conbo before to have that piece healed.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
And the dance, Yeah, I say, you have two dances
at her wedding well for her.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
And the attention is to have fun. I mean it's
their wedding, so I get it.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
But that just means that you put on a hell
of a good party. Friend, I know, right if she
had a good old open bar, I know in the bathroom. Okay,
speaking of drinking, God, it's been a minute.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Yeah, I don't do well with it.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
We opened up the most gorgeous bottle of wine on
Valentine's Day. Preston was like, I just want to have
a sip with you, and I had like half a
glass and that was that and then the rest is wasted.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
I didn't to do wine anything.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I don't. I cannot tell you the last I mean
maybe we had a little bit on New Year's That
was that New Year's night. I had like a half
a glass. Yeah, I had a drop of alcohol. For
Valentine's Day. I did a little fake margarita.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Oh cute.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
I can do like cocktails that have a good bit
of water in them because it keeps me hydrated. That's
what I'm learning. Like if I have a cocktail that
it's like a lot of water with a little you
know whatever, some fruit and all that, then I can
do that.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
The wine just makes me feel bad. I can't do
it anymore.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
So I think as a whole America. I just watch
the saw statistic the other day that said that like
drinking is down by like something like fifty percent or
something like. The growth of people not drinking is so
much bigger now because it's just we're learning more. We're
understanding how it affects our bodies. People are more focused on.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
How my alcoholic I mean, the alcohol fails are like
map down, so our yeah for next door, we get
our non alcoholic wines from. He was just like, this
is what is selling the most is the non alcoholic stuff.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
The doctors aren't telling us to have a glass to
day anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Not the good one.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Tricky time.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Well, ladies, thanks for doing this over zoom. Thank you
guys for listening over our little zoomy zoom. And next
time we'll be home.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
So oh, I need us back in the same room.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I love you too, quick shoot and we're out of here.
Feel better, keepy, feel better.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
I love you. Yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna just take
myself to bed.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Okay, hey, good good.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
I love you girls. I miss you. Have fun but
not too much. Save the middle seat for me.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
We will, Bye girl.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
I love you. M
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