April 20, 2026 • 39 mins
Jana made a quick and spontaneous trip to England and she’s ready to share all the details, including how she handled an overseas flight with a toddler!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wind Down with Janet Kramer, an iHeart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hey ladies, hikay yay, how are you guys? I would
like to start with something.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Look odd, No, like I don't mean it.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
They look odd like you.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Look like, well this is this is a strapping lovester.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I cannot speak like, you know something like your.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Eyes are like I'm gonna tell you what she knows.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
She knows something. That's what I can tell. She knows that.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
She just casually left the country over the weekend NBD.
I was like, wait, I'm sorry, I just saw you
and I see you again in like two days. And
is this old footage like I I see Alan's mom
and dad and then like have they come to visit?
Well that's not historic, Dowsspound, Franklesness Gray Where I didn't
(00:55):
know you were leaving the country if I didn't miss it?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Did you talk about it?
Speaker 5 (00:58):
No?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I just I really didn't say anything.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Well, it's a big deal for normal people. Heading over
to the UK on the weekend is a big deal.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I just I want to normalize talking about out of
the country.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I literally only knew because I'm like doing work stuff
and it just says Jana gone and I'm like, hey,
where are you going?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
What is it?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Well?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
So, I mean, so Alan went to England in I
think it was December January. I can't remember what month
it was. You know, he goes back every a couple
of months to see his son, and so I think
I think it had been I can't remember if it
was December or January, but you know, he said, hey,
you know, obviously I want to go back and see
you know, my son, and uh, and he has a
(01:43):
game and I said, man, I haven't been able to
catch a game. And he was also saying he was
going to go see you know, his his mom and
dad up in Scotland, and so I was just looking
at the calendar and he was like, I would really
love for you to come, and I'm like, okay. I
was like, the only time I really can probably make
it work is this, you know, this coming thor that weekend,
(02:03):
and it was gonna just be Alan and I. But
then I was thinking, you know, his parents haven't seen
Roman since the wedding, and you know, I was just
I know it was only four nights, but Peace to
me was just like I think it'd be really nice.
It'd be nice to have everybody together. It'd be really
nice for his mom, and it'd be nice, you know,
for for Troy and Roman to be together. So we
(02:26):
last minute decided to add Roman onto the trip, and
I'm so glad we did. I'm so glad. Like it
was just it was amazing. It was so good, and
he was I mean, he was so tired. That flight
was brutal. Hoff. Yeah, I've got a wine about it
that we can hold that for the wine about it.
(02:48):
But it was, Yeah, the flight was The flight was
hard because you know, the lights are on and then
he's not understanding that he has to go to sleep. Sure,
so he's just at that point he's so overtired, buddy. Yeah,
but it was you know, he was a champion, Like
he was so good. You're a champion. And the flight
was like overnight, right, it was overnight.
Speaker 6 (03:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
So we left at eight thirty and then we landed
at oh gosh, ten thirty England time, so whatever, so
we're six hour difference. So yeah, and I called you.
You did well?
Speaker 4 (03:20):
You were out, No, she was, and you were already
you had to have already been over there.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I can't even remember.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
I can't either, but I'm and That's what I love
about this particular age of friendship. I don't remember me neither,
but I remember after, like it was not long after
the call. Like I don't really scroll unless it's someone
at the top that like I love and like it
feels joyful to me. Yeah, so you guys should both
know that if I'm ever creeping on your stories, that's
a good sign. And I was like, oh, Creamer, So
(03:48):
I just clicked it and I was like, wait what,
And then I thought I just talked to her, and
I was like casual. I'm not even sure what time
of the day it would have been for you, because
I can't remember when I called you, But it was
funny because we just talked.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yeah, I mean it was it was so good. And
then honestly, you know, the the bigs were it was
a mic weekend. So instead of you know, he usually
has Wednesday and then he's Friday Saturday every other and
so I took his Wednesday, and then because we left
really late Wednesday night, you know, late Wednesday night, so
I just I had them Wednesday and then they stayed
with Avery and then yeah, and then Thursday, then that
(04:21):
was his weekend. Then, so it was great. So just
worked out so well. And yeah, he was he was
just he was so good. I mean he once we
got him to England too, I mean he slept great
through the night, like there was no issue with his
sleep whatsoever. That's crazy, incredible, and he was such a champ.
And he just went on their schedule, like when he
(04:41):
got over there, wow, nothing didn't even wait. I mean
he was I think he was so tired. I mean
he slept and half that schedule. And then what we
did was we just, yeah, we put him to bed
at nine each night England times, so we just kept
him a little closer to the time zone ish. Uh,
But yeah, he was great. The only thing was the
flight Hull. I was just like we got to get
(05:02):
him to at least cat nap for like thirty minutes,
but he would was not having it. And then did
you fly home at night as well? No, it was
during the day, but still the time he woke up
in England time was three am here, so we didn't
get home until eight pm. So by the time we
got home, I mean he had fallen asleep in my arms.
But yeah, you know, oh buddy, like carrying him up
(05:22):
the stairs, he was just like like my parents take
me on the UK Bender. That's amazing.
Speaker 7 (05:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
But he was great and it was just really sweet
seeing him with Troy and just like out with this family.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
I could feel it in the videos. That's what I
loved about it, and I honestly the thing that I
think I liked most about it was Alan's faith.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, I know, his heart is just so happy when
his boys are altogether, I can tell. Yeah, it really
is sweet.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Like I was like, look at Alan, he's just like
I felt like a sister.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I was like, look at Alan, he's just living his
best life. So did his parents come over? Well, so
they were going to fly up to see them in Scotland.
But I was like, listen, if we can bring Rome men,
why don't they come down because it's only like a
six hour drive from Scotland or four to six and
the ger from Scotland to England. So they just drove
down because I'm like, hey, can you guys come down
if we're bringing Roman So it worked out perfect because
(06:13):
it's it is hard for them to fly over here
and sure stuff, So it worked out really well. Yeah. Cute, yeah,
eyelighth Oh do I have an Eyeland well, I don't
have many left, which is probably why my eyes look weird.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Is I don't try to catch you in between segments
and the video gets pulled.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Not many on the eyelashes. But but yeah, we fed
some ducks. We didn't we didn't go into London, but
we just stayed in Henley, which is a really cute
little It looked cute, it was so cute and everything
went adorable. Yeah, I mean just and I just ate
my weight in fish and chips and not don't talk
to me. That sounds amazing. I mean literally every meal
I had fish and fish and chips. It was so good.
(06:49):
And because it's like, you know, you're so tired, I
just crave carts. Oh so it's all I did, was Yes,
I mean I had a croissant twice a day. That's
I was on my rotation and then fish and chips.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Just also, food is so different there though, that it
gives you the ability to be able to do that
without all the junk and grossness and you can actually
like enjoy the food there. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yeah, I went for a really nice, like long run
by the little I don't know what that is, a
river that goes all the way down to London. So
that was really nice. And are we going to almost
identical except for mine was cheercom with the carbs, so
I no long runs, but the carbs are a little different. Yeah,
the carbs are all matching up. But yeah, but I'll
(07:26):
segment I want to go into y'all's, but I will
say I'll go into my little wine about and then
we can go back. But so he's you know, just
over to is what two years and five months? Is
what he just turned He's not doing while it's sitting
in his seat. Sure at that age, yeah, just too Yeah,
and so I understand he has a seat like I, oh,
(07:47):
bless this man that walks.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Can see there's a Scottish man arm that came out
of the door and put a coffee down on the ground.
And I hope it comes back two more times.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
But I think it's just one. I think it's just one.
Oh shout out. Sorry, I wish I did have a
video of it that didn't come. Awesome opening. I didn't
know he was doing that, so that's really sweet. That's
very sweet. Sorry. Also, things we can't that we don't
have in common. He wouldn't do that. No, Preston would
(08:24):
do that. Yeah, no, just that Allen didn't do it
for us. He doesn't know your order and we're podcasting right,
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I
think probably just didn't know what we were doing, yeah,
or that we're here. What day it is?
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Because you guys just took a trip over the weekend
the UK. Okay, we'll give him some grace wine about it.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Won't stay in his seat because he's just sex and
every back on the CHIE. Sorry, we're gonna squirrel moment
this really fast, so they are a mess. They they
changed the CHIE again back not tried since you said yeah,
but it is close to it and I am fine
with it, close enough to get you back on your
you have to say anything different. Do you just order
(09:04):
it normal extra hot without milk. I took the water
out so it tastes better as the classic. Then's just
still in it now instead of they changed a bunch
of stuff. They changed a bunch of the refreshers and
stuff too, with the purple foam. I don't know about that.
That's the show better. Yeah, okay, better, I am not
as bitter. Okay, good, okay, good or miss but anyways,
(09:29):
let's go back. So I I got yelled at why Okay,
So I'll just say we we were in premium economy, Okay.
We upgraded when we got to the airport. So I'm like,
if this is the one to upgrade, we're upgrading so
he can have a bed and sleep and a lot
(09:51):
of times that's the way to do it. By the way,
by the way, you guys, it's incredible. Let me just
say it's insane. So okay, let's just so I love right,
I'm gonna say, like, how much is a business class
ticket or grading business class flying from London Nashville to
London one way is anywhere between eight to ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
We should clarify that business class when flying overseas is
the first class laid class, yes, lay down first class.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yes, obviously for three people, we're not doing that right.
So we got a premium economy which were eleven hundred
dollars per ticket. So okay, that is what we did, right.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
And that's like the step above the economy for a
couple after a leg room.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
No one step okay, So there's a coonomy with a
premium economy business. So we had a premium economy, which
is essentially a little bit more.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Like it's essentially domestic first class seating. I'm sorry, I
want to take that after the premium economy was three
grand apologies each, I can't remember because I think he
booked them all alcoholic the tickets. Okay, So I don't
remember how, but it was not anywhere near business Okay.
It was definitely more than like an economy, which is
I think a thousand or something that makes more sense. Yeah,
so I think it was more in like the twenty
(11:03):
five hundred.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, I think for all three tickets it was like
five grand okay or something like that. Okay, So Alan
got those tickets very sweet. So we're at the airport
and I'm like, I just have a question. I was like,
how how much is it? Is there any business class?
And how much is it to upgrade? And they're like
five hundred a ticket? And I'm like, sold, that's what
happened to us, crazy sold. It was three point fifty
(11:26):
each for us when we flew back. Is it just
because they're not full? So then at that point they
might as well open seats? Yes, twelve, So I'm like sold,
here we go.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Card I thought she misspoke when she quoted us, and
I was like, whatever you put it on like before
you realized you made a mistake.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Is that for anyone or because you have status you have? Nope,
it's for anyone, but you have to go. So if
you even if you were an economy ticket, you would
just have to pay maybe one thousand dollars instead of
five hundred. We had already paid someone of that upgrade. Yeah,
so like but still you would still get It's way
less than buying crazy. So like, I never buy. And
that's what I learned when I was dating Alan is
I never brought bought a business. I always just upgrade
(12:03):
at the airport. Now, sometimes I didn't get it, sure,
and sometimes I did. Yeah, but no way, and hell
am I forking out? Like yeah, Like I see these
families up there, and I'm like, how you know, maybe
they're doing it the way you're doing it. Maybe, but yeah,
so there's that. So we did that. So but the
thing is he had his own bed right, so he
(12:25):
can't sit right next to each other. So and we're
putting him in a seatbelt, but he keeps climbing out again.
At this point, he's exhausted and he's two and a half.
He's two and a half. So I'm like, I go
to the flight ten and I said, hey, I obviously
you know he's just a little over two and a half.
And she's like, well, he's a ticketed seat and I
said yes, I said, but he keeps getting out of
his buckle and I know we're about to like take off,
(12:48):
and she's like, well, he has to stay in the seat,
and I was like, I get that. I was like,
but if he comes out of his seat, I'm going
to go grab him. She's like, well, you can't. You
have to stay in your seat, and I'm like, just
going to let the baby run around them, Okay. So
I was like, you know, trying to like be patient
with it, and I'm like, I totally understand, Like I get.
I was like, but having said that, I know a
lap child is around pretty much the same age. It's
(13:10):
just a couple of months different where I can hold them,
and I feel like that'd be the safest bet than
him not being in a seatbelt. Right. Yeah, So we're
taking off, he is out of his seatbelt and I'm
just like, man, he's out of his seat belt, Like
I have to unbuckle my seat, man, you want to
darn your street. I'm like, he's on, I'm not gonna
have my child fly up in the air, you know
(13:31):
what I mean? And I grabbed my child. She was
not happy with you sit in, like, not be buckled
when we're taking off in the air. Surely's so pissed.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I well, so I talked afterwards, and you know, she
was just like, well, he has to be in And
I was like, but like, honestly, what like I get
that I need to be I was like, my child
if there's a big bump, like he he doesn't know
how to even like adults get injured.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
I needed to grab him. We were about we were
taking off. Yeah it's wild too because obviously not the
first time that's ever happened, right, but the last the
flight we took back, the lady was just like, you
can absolutely hold him and we'll give you a little conunction.
Thank you so much. Yeah, because we did the same thing.
We upgraded when we got to the airport on the
way back. So I'm like, thank you, yeah, thank you.
(14:19):
Obviously he did not sit in a seat. Yeah, So
and she was just like, we totally understand, like so
and again I get the rules one hundred percent do
but what what do you what do you do well? Safety? Safety?
Would you rather? Do you want a kids?
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Again?
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I just want to know what she would have done
had you not gotten out? Wouldn't just walk and just
let him walk around on takeoff? That seems like a
way bigger issue here, guy, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yeah, let you on the way back. But it was
a great trip, so fun. It was great saying fun
of my waving cooler stuff, like he's so cool. Yeah,
I just feel he's so rad. Like I was just
watched I'm like, Troy Man, how do we be as
cool as you? Yeah? I know I'm always and then
I always say things and I feel stupid passing. I'm
so dumb, Like I'm so old. I mean, we're all dumb.
It's fine, but I like try to be cool and
(15:06):
then I just say things and I'm like, but he's great.
We've got such a great relationship. So you know, it
was really fun to.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Seeing those the boys together and just their pictures and
stuff just so sweet.
Speaker 7 (15:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I was happy forget to watch them score goal in
a game. So it was awesome and I was I
always love it when again I can see Alan's heart, yeah,
and he's just happy. So it was it was nice. Anyways,
it's up with you guys. Well, not much. We didn't
go out of the country. I didn't even leave. You
know what I did? What did I do this weekend? Accurate? Today?
(15:39):
I got my moles checked? That's about it. Oh yeah,
how you doing? Do you all do that? I did?
I just did it last week. I was that was
I was going to ask you guys, do you do
you get skin checks? I don't. You don't need to
because you're just it's.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Not necessarily true, I know, even though there's still no
moles on that body.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Yeah, everything it's about that might be part of my
wind about do we each get one today?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
That's my wine them all, we'll get the chat go
to wine.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Well, I just it's like, is there anything more sobering
than being in your socks brought in underwear at the
dermatologist's office in that lighting, Like, I just don't know
if there's any moment.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
You don't look at yourself. Well, I caught a.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Glimpse in the mirror and I was just like, oh,
a full body mirror. I mean, there's not like a
lot of room to roam, you know right.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
I mean I'll take that any day and every day
over the socks and the the drape for the obg
I n though.
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Speaker 2 (17:33):
By the way, guys, I still got to do my
I still have put off my mammogram. Haven't done it
hapen forever like it and I know I need to
do that. Should we make it like a thing? We
don't go to the same place, do we should? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
You know you need to keep up, and I'm telling
you I have to take it now, KitKat, Well, don't
go by the suggestion suggested. Now there's like they're telling
us now, they're saying years like five a two or
five year.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
For mammogram or pop because they told me two years
for PAP no pap changed, which I would never do.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
And I have to take like a xanax to even
go to the ob gyn and it doesn't even help.
Like that's how much I hate it. But I would
definitely do it every I just.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
Love a yearly check in with everybody.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
At so many things to do, I will say, does
anybody want to do the pernuvo in Chicago? I do, Okay,
I've I've reached out. Okay, so unless I'm just like
I'm doing get to No, you have to wait a
couple of weeks. That's probably good. So I don't want
to show that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I'm like, I don't want to be like in Chicago
and be like, Okay, well, are they going to like
tell me if I have cancer?
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah? But I mean that's but that's what's so that
that's what's Yeah, that's preventive or if or something. They
put us in a two they do. Okay. Also, I
want more fun.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
I mean I love our age group because we're definitely
like we're at a really sweet spot in life, Like,
let's also get our body scanned for cancer, but can
we also get tattoo?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Is all we're out and about. You know what they're
saying about tattoos lately? What are they saying about tattoos?
Speaker 6 (19:06):
Grandma just got my cha, just got my moles checked,
and well, you know what they're saying about.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
It was the accent. You know what they're saying about
that moles chack. Yes, Auntie Catherine Brand Katherine, I don't
even know Catherine is here? What are they saying? I don't.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
I mean, just now they're saying that they cause cancer too,
along with everything else. I mean, trust me, I mean
I got you know, I know, I'm drinking dit coke
every day, so it's fine.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
You know.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I just saw that thing literally pop up the other
day and I was like, oh, we're going to go
get some. I mean I'm in no, no, we must
get checked and at the tattoos.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
At the same time, the man would have meant ballot okay,
But yeah, I'm good with that.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yes, okay, okay, I don't know what I'm gonna get.
Oh see, I took her tattoo away. Wait, why where
is the flowers?
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I didn't know it, so I didn't know you were
getting the Wow. It was only two sessions. Guys. I
still have my hand tattoo from the other she did too. Okay,
that's true. Yeah, this is my favorite tattoo that she did.
I was like, oh, I have one and it was
with you, and yours is gone. She gets hers with
invisible ink and you and I are like, oh, scapped
(20:23):
over for two weeks like nice was scared of nails.
We will No, I just honestly I didn't love it. Well,
it's really gone, can I say? And it was very thin.
I can kind of see it. I might do one
more laser, but you know what's gone. Actually I have
something to chat about. Okay, it's just because can they tattoos?
(20:46):
This one's gonna go right to Mike. Oh no, so
my right bicep. Yeah, dates are gone. His are there
and I noticed it at the baseball game and I'm like,
why is our wedding date still.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
On his arm?
Speaker 6 (21:01):
Well?
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Not everyone can go do all those lasers. Probably he's
got like a best friend that does cover it. Yeah,
cover it.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Oh yeah, you know what I mean, he could just
cover it, not get it laser. Yeah, yeah, I was
just thinking getting late the day off. Your birthday is birthday,
wedding day, No, it's just our wedding dating day. I
have something I don't remember.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
It was twenty I remember, and then Jolie's birthday, huh,
because so I got both removies. Like I just didn't
want it in the same let's add Jace, yeah and or.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
So.
Speaker 7 (21:37):
But I don't know, I just find it, like, you.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Know, I know he doesn't have that girlfriend anymore, but
if I would, I don't know his status now if
he has a new one or whatever. And I don't
care to know at the moment until it involves kids.
But you know, for me, I guess it was just
it was the first time that, you know, because I
just figured by this point it would be gone. Yeah,
(22:00):
there's a lot on me that should be and like
a lot of people don't.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
And like I just feel like though there are a
lot of people that just because they're tattoos that just yeah,
it's not just a tattoo.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
It was our wedding date.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
I know, but that's why you don't do that, right,
because but that's I mean I do because you feel weird.
It's a tattoo, so no, well I feel like you
just like peaked at his armscrap book.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
I don't know that I know other people have covered
up the tattoo that they got of me. Oh I'm sure,
So is this available for pin on tour?
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Because I haven't little so that she doesn't forget just
saying Angel, there's my can I add it to our list?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
But I'm just saying, like you know what I mean, Like, yes,
I'm sure, Yes, I know they've covered a.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Lot of people do and a lot of people lay
with them off like you do. But I do think
a lot of people still have.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
I agree with Catherine, right then, don't get I guess
get it makes me feel removed because I'm like, I
so don't associate with him as being my ex husband
even though he is or married to him, So it's
just weird.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I'm like, what was his wedding day? Yeah, but he
knew things on that wedding day that I didn't know
about cheating on me. That do you want to pay
for him? To get it laser so that it could
be a race for both of them. Has let me ask,
has he gotten tattoos? Sent? Yes, okay, so he covered
(23:29):
my face up? You had your face? God, yes he
did itwhere terrible? No face tattoo is great? And I
know all the ball of flame. The minute you make
me a caricature on your don't do skin. I don't
want it. Don't do what Never I looked like a grandma.
And we even joked about it, so like where was it, Luke?
(23:50):
It was on his shoulders, putting it as like a
spartan or whatever, a cramer. I can't I'm still processing
the fact that your face was tattooed. Are we surprised?
I don't believe he's had because he had a best or.
I think they're still friends. I don't know, but that
he does tattoos, so I would just figure, I mean,
put a block on it. Something I've covered up a lego.
(24:12):
She like's building legos.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
I guess. Can I get a picture of the old tattoo,
I would just be yeah, No, I mean, I'm sure
he probably doesn't have it anymore either. I know we
put it on socials one time because it was a joke,
like I look like a grandma. But yeah, I don't know.
I guess I'm just trying to think if if okay,
this is like Alan's she had, I don't know it
(24:37):
just like that piece. I don't care about people still
have last same last names or this, But I don't
know a wild times you are just a year am
I weird? No, but you're all of the things that
are okay, Like don't care less sharing a last name
with someone, it's wild to me. And you don't care
if I make out with someone you made out with.
But but the tattoo still on is a tatto two
(25:00):
is like permanent for most people, but you can cover
it up. I do think. I don't think about Like
I know somebody right now that was wanting okay, right,
I know somebody that has just gotten married to somebody
and they're upset that the wife has the last name,
(25:22):
and so they want that ex wife to change their name.
And I'm like, I could give two ships that his
my my husband's ex wife has the same last name.
Don't care. Yeah, yoursel's unite, you know what I mean?
Like that's her name? Why would I why would I
care nor ask anybody to change their name. I don't
care about that they have this that's their son's last name.
You know, I'm about to likes likely change it to
(25:44):
to have romans, you know what I mean, like to
ask someone to like that doesn't bother me at all.
But what bothers means a tattoo.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
I don't know, but I do think some people will
be bothered by the last name, but that they are
I would, and I agree.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
I don't it wouldn't bother me.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
But I think I'm just like passionate about that some
people would, so I don't really this is all interesting.
I don't know if any of it would really bother me,
But I don't know. I think it would bother me
if there's a child. I think if there's no child,
then just go back to your maiden name. That's fine,
right right right when there's a kid, I get that.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
I have the kids involved. That's like how it's almost
like how dare that new wife ask someone to change
their name when which happens? But like how I don't understand,
Like help me understand why that's like that is my
biggest but is it still their name? I will say,
this My biggest sadness about divorcing Mike is that I
don't have my kid's last name truly, right, but I
(26:36):
aga stay costing. You know what I mean is like,
but do you feel like that is still your last name?
Like that?
Speaker 1 (26:44):
That's where I can see the other side of that going.
Do you feel I think it depends on how long
you've been married too, Like does that really still feel
like your last name?
Speaker 2 (26:51):
What do you mean if you're not married to that
person anymore? No, my mom was married for how many
years to my dad? So twenty plus something years? My
mom to was like, I mean she ended up changing it, right,
but like she stayed Cramer for and that was her identity.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
So like for people that have been married for that long,
like my mom too, I get that, like you were
that for almost longer than you weren't, right.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
But we have a friend that has gotten divorced maybe
the similar situation that was like ten is years, and
that is that's her name, That's what she's been branded for,
that's what she's her kids nate last names are this?
How dare that woman to then ask? Because it's right,
maybe it happened, so then you know what I mean right,
I think I see both sides. That's where we go.
(27:36):
We're trying to.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Figure out who get through the puzzle there. Yeah, a
tattoo bothers me more and you know what, to each
their own.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
I see both sides of the tattoo in the sense
that I don't think that everyone has the means to
laser them off. It's it's money time pain. I mean,
there's a lot of things, but the covering it up
with another their tattoo. If he's gotten more tattoos, I
do think that he could have done.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
I will say this too about the name, since we're
just on that as well. When Mike does get remarried,
you know that person will take casts and that will
hurt knowing that they have the same name as my kids.
So it's more about the name of the kids than
it is the Yeah, that's why, not about her taking
the name. It's about the fact that it's the same
(28:24):
as my kids, and it's like they right right, yeah,
you know, so that's the piece that I couldn't on
the other side, go change your name right as my kids,
I'm connected to them, right. I think that's why, which
is why I struggle Honestly, if I'm asking becoming a
Russell because I don't want to just be Romans, I
(28:49):
haven't changed it yet and just say Kramer because I'm like,
I'm not taking my kids' names, either the Bigs or Romans.
But then I don't you know, I know Alan would
like me change it. Yeah, that's tricky, so I feel
little stuck. I'm not gonna lie, So can you just hyphenate?
Speaker 5 (29:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:07):
I mean I think that's what I'll end up doing.
It just becomes a little messy with.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I would I'm kidding. It does make me sad, you
know that makes sense. That would be hard for me too.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
But I would never say even to it. Even as
the mom of the kids. I would never say to
the wife that he maybe ends up marrying you can't
take Cosson what world do would I have them? But
that's but then how could that mom then go tell
the other person to not take the name.
Speaker 7 (29:34):
It's even worse on.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
The other side, like to get rid of more of
a stance to say don't take the name. You can't
take the name because my kids as opposed to the
new kids and not a marriage.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Yeah, yeah, but that other person's probably looking at it
as the marriage, and no, I have more right to
that name because I'm married to him, you're no longer
married to him. But also just right, I see, But
I could see where someone would feel that way too.
But now, I mean, I wouldn't bother me. So where
do we stand If there's no kids. I think you
should just go back to your og name. If you
(30:05):
do have kids, I think it's fine. I don't care
what anyone's really doing as long as they're happy. But
I would I'm just putting myself as a position if
I was the new wife, Like I have an ex
husband floating out and about, I want her to have
his last name and I no longer wanted it, but
(30:26):
we didn't have kids, So I just think, I but
that's a little maybe, that's a little my like a
type OCD. I like it when things like match. So
that would just like, Okay, you guys are all tucked
in and you are officially the bill in the blanks. Well,
you wouldn't have wanted to keep you didn't want to
keep content. It's just the kid's part that's completely different.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Yeah, so you are not officially a rustle yet, No,
I'm not. Yeah, they's like, can we just not that process?
I mean, Social Security Office had whiplash for me for
a minute because it was like, wait.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Second to go back then just getting you ahead me?
Love you Alan? Can we just keep her a grammer?
Speaker 6 (31:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:05):
I know, I almost changed you in my phone.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Actually, I love how we just get to these topics
we're we forget people are actually listening to our nonsense.
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If you want to, you say something. You're doing so good,
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Speaker 2 (32:08):
My husband and I have been married for fourteen years.
We have three children. Have honestly always gotten along well
during our marriage. The last few years have been tough.
I think it's the stage my kids are in, but
we have just been off a lot of the time.
I will admit I searched my husband's phone every now
and then. I recently discovered that he looks at women's
profiles on social media that are half naked in their pictures.
This devastates me. I have found this and told him
(32:30):
multiple times before that I feel like that crosses a line.
He always answers with an excuse or deflects on me.
I'm tired of you making me feel like a bad person.
He's such a wonderful human being about so many things,
but this just bothers me. There have been other things
that make me feel like he's hard to trust over
the years as well. When I was a kid, I
discovered that my dad was cheating on my mom and
she said to me she knew about it, and that
(32:51):
was it. I remember feeling like I couldn't believe she
put up with that, and how devastated it made me.
My husband knows all of this, and so I just
don't get why he continues to hurt me in this way.
I feel so disappointed. Help how do I handle this?
So I personally find it And I'll say this, even
when I would date people, I would look to see
(33:13):
the follow list, and when I saw when it's them
following a bunch of half naked super modey chicks on Instagram,
I don't personally love that, and I think it says
a lot about the guy. I also know guys that
are in relationships and still follow those people that are
married and still follow those people. To me, that isn't
(33:38):
the respectful right thing to do if you're in a
respectful relationship. For me, personally, I just don't like I
wouldn't love that. And that's one of the things that
I loved when I was on you know, looking at
Alan's followers, when it's like you just know the type
of guy, right, that's like following those only a lot
of those profiles, and I find it very attractive that
(34:02):
you know he didn't, and then if he did, I
would be like, what, like why why, yeah, why why
do you need to look at that? Like it would
bother me so much if that's the kind of women
that he was following a great social media as a
way personally, we went in and cleaned up like the
business account for Preston because you know, like a lot
(34:24):
of you remember, and it's nothing kinda says, so, I'm
so sorry. I don't mean to interrupt you. And it's
it's not that these women aren't beautiful. I'm not saying
bad about the women, like, no, all beautiful, stunning, all
of that. I just appropriate. Yeah, I just don't think
it's appropriate as a married man. To me, it's essentially
reading like like there's just the Playboy or one of
(34:46):
those kind of yeah.
Speaker 6 (34:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
And like even for us, it was like, you know,
remember when when social like Instagram really started to take off,
it was like follow, follow back, like that was always
just like that was the algorithm if you were like
the system. Like even for me, like I'm following seventy
five hundred people what, No, I'm not, I'm really not,
but like probably I was like, oh, following your small business,
you know whatever. So we went through this is years ago,
(35:09):
but like we went through the same thing where I
was like, I don't know why you're in you know,
more people have access to that account to follow So
it is tricky and I get it, but I don't
think that makes any wife feel good, Like I don't
think that makes any partner feel good.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
I don't think it is appropriate. I think especially if
you're feeling the way you're feeling like.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Well, and she's already voiced that it makes her rightable. Yeah,
and I would just I mean, I don't know that
I have ever really gone through followers necessarily, but I
just would be like, but why, I just you know, like, yeah,
what's the point and just following a bunch of I
don't understand the point, you know, unless you know, because
(35:53):
then it's just going to make a woman feel like
he either wants to cheat or is cheating, right, And
that may not be the truth, that may not be
the truth at all, but the way that that lends itself,
it it feels that way.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Well, it feels like why would you why would you
even start that? Right?
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Nothing, they're I'm always careful to just not step in
a bear trap, but it's like, what intention is behind
you doing that? Nothing that is associated with loving and caring.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
About your wife first. Yeah, so just the why a
little more simple? Yeah, Yeah, And that's the thing I
would ask why. My only thing, though, is this is
where I would go. I don't want to be the
one to make the person delete them. I want them
to come up with the idea because if not, they
can delete all they want and they'll just search. Yeah, right,
(36:43):
you know what I mean. Like that's where I also
don't already know that too. Yeah, so it's I would
just be like, why, why do you feel the need
to follow these people? What is it doing for you?
And you know, because this is how it makes me feel.
So I'm just trying to maybe go on the understanding route. Yeah,
(37:04):
and also making him because he sounds like he's a
great husband.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
Yeah, there's probably some shame in there somewhere though, that's
why he's defensive.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Well, and maybe there's something I need to talk about
and figure out. Maybe there's something deep down that it
lends itself to a really good conversation of figuring out
what that is and why that is. And you know,
he's probably being a faithful husband. I mean, you know,
he it's just but talk about it, figure it out,
get to the why and the underneath of why.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
But you're not crazy for feeling that way because I
can say, I mean, Kat, would you be upset if
Nick followed.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Yeah, I just think it's I would just think it's odd.
Like I mean, I've always been the I've always been
the female. That's like if you want to go with
your brother when he's getting married to the bachelor the
strip club, I don't care. Like that truly doesn't bother me.
If it's an instance, you know, or whatever. I've always
been that way. But that I again would just go to,
(37:55):
but what's the point. Why are you following these women?
You don't know them, like, just to look at them
to get off on them. You know, your brain just
goes to all these reasons of why. So yes, that
would bother me in that sense.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
And then that's where your brain is then taking you
out of your own relationship exactly for that person that's
just like yeah, exactly and yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
That lends itself to that. So again, I would want
to get down to the why. I don't know that
I would just get like angry, but I would definitely
want to get down to the why and have a
conversation and.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Then say how it makes you feel too secure.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Or absolutely, and I will say it does come back
to like last week. If you know, she says she
already told them, told him that it makes her uncomfortable.
Now that's where I definitely would get upset, Like if
I've already voiced that I am uncomfortable with it, then
I would like something to.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Maybe, which is why when Nick listened to the episode,
oh last week and as three girls, and it's like, Nick,
you knew, like you knew, so like we had every
right then to chat about it. Oh, I told him
when we left, he goes, I figured, y'all would.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
I would say our default and our default answer to
this one too, which is like, get a good therapist
if you can. I know it seems silly, but like
sometimes a third party, objective opinion can speak clearly and
more effectively into your spouse and maybe even you. Yeah, yep,
this is a good one to bring to a therapist. Oh, ladies, well,
(39:20):
I love you.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
I love you.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
I'm not but I'm gonna be somewhere next week. But
I'll tell you that on the next podcast A little bit. Bye.
Wind Down with Janet Kramer, an iHeart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Hey ladies, hikay yay, how are you guys? I would
like to start with something.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Look odd, No, like I don't mean it.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
They look odd like you.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Look like, well this is this is a strapping lovester.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I cannot speak like, you know something like your.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Eyes are like I'm gonna tell you what she knows.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
She knows something. That's what I can tell. She knows that.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
She just casually left the country over the weekend NBD.
I was like, wait, I'm sorry, I just saw you
and I see you again in like two days. And
is this old footage like I I see Alan's mom
and dad and then like have they come to visit?
Well that's not historic, Dowsspound, Franklesness Gray Where I didn't
(00:55):
know you were leaving the country if I didn't miss it?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Did you talk about it?
Speaker 5 (00:58):
No?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I just I really didn't say anything.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Well, it's a big deal for normal people. Heading over
to the UK on the weekend is a big deal.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I just I want to normalize talking about out of
the country.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I literally only knew because I'm like doing work stuff
and it just says Jana gone and I'm like, hey,
where are you going?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
What is it?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Well?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
So, I mean, so Alan went to England in I
think it was December January. I can't remember what month
it was. You know, he goes back every a couple
of months to see his son, and so I think
I think it had been I can't remember if it
was December or January, but you know, he said, hey,
you know, obviously I want to go back and see
you know, my son, and uh, and he has a
(01:43):
game and I said, man, I haven't been able to
catch a game. And he was also saying he was
going to go see you know, his his mom and
dad up in Scotland, and so I was just looking
at the calendar and he was like, I would really
love for you to come, and I'm like, okay. I
was like, the only time I really can probably make
it work is this, you know, this coming thor that weekend,
(02:03):
and it was gonna just be Alan and I. But
then I was thinking, you know, his parents haven't seen
Roman since the wedding, and you know, I was just
I know it was only four nights, but Peace to
me was just like I think it'd be really nice.
It'd be nice to have everybody together. It'd be really
nice for his mom, and it'd be nice, you know,
for for Troy and Roman to be together. So we
(02:26):
last minute decided to add Roman onto the trip, and
I'm so glad we did. I'm so glad. Like it
was just it was amazing. It was so good, and
he was I mean, he was so tired. That flight
was brutal. Hoff. Yeah, I've got a wine about it
that we can hold that for the wine about it.
(02:48):
But it was, Yeah, the flight was The flight was
hard because you know, the lights are on and then
he's not understanding that he has to go to sleep. Sure,
so he's just at that point he's so overtired, buddy. Yeah,
but it was you know, he was a champion, Like
he was so good. You're a champion. And the flight
was like overnight, right, it was overnight.
Speaker 6 (03:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
So we left at eight thirty and then we landed
at oh gosh, ten thirty England time, so whatever, so
we're six hour difference. So yeah, and I called you.
You did well?
Speaker 4 (03:20):
You were out, No, she was, and you were already
you had to have already been over there.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I can't even remember.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
I can't either, but I'm and That's what I love
about this particular age of friendship. I don't remember me neither,
but I remember after, like it was not long after
the call. Like I don't really scroll unless it's someone
at the top that like I love and like it
feels joyful to me. Yeah, so you guys should both
know that if I'm ever creeping on your stories, that's
a good sign. And I was like, oh, Creamer, So
(03:48):
I just clicked it and I was like, wait what,
And then I thought I just talked to her, and
I was like casual. I'm not even sure what time
of the day it would have been for you, because
I can't remember when I called you, But it was
funny because we just talked.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yeah, I mean it was it was so good. And
then honestly, you know, the the bigs were it was
a mic weekend. So instead of you know, he usually
has Wednesday and then he's Friday Saturday every other and
so I took his Wednesday, and then because we left
really late Wednesday night, you know, late Wednesday night, so
I just I had them Wednesday and then they stayed
with Avery and then yeah, and then Thursday, then that
(04:21):
was his weekend. Then, so it was great. So just
worked out so well. And yeah, he was he was
just he was so good. I mean he once we
got him to England too, I mean he slept great
through the night, like there was no issue with his
sleep whatsoever. That's crazy, incredible, and he was such a champ.
And he just went on their schedule, like when he
(04:41):
got over there, wow, nothing didn't even wait. I mean
he was I think he was so tired. I mean
he slept and half that schedule. And then what we
did was we just, yeah, we put him to bed
at nine each night England times, so we just kept
him a little closer to the time zone ish. Uh,
But yeah, he was great. The only thing was the
flight Hull. I was just like we got to get
(05:02):
him to at least cat nap for like thirty minutes,
but he would was not having it. And then did
you fly home at night as well? No, it was
during the day, but still the time he woke up
in England time was three am here, so we didn't
get home until eight pm. So by the time we
got home, I mean he had fallen asleep in my arms.
But yeah, you know, oh buddy, like carrying him up
(05:22):
the stairs, he was just like like my parents take
me on the UK Bender. That's amazing.
Speaker 7 (05:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
But he was great and it was just really sweet
seeing him with Troy and just like out with this family.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
I could feel it in the videos. That's what I
loved about it, and I honestly the thing that I
think I liked most about it was Alan's faith.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, I know, his heart is just so happy when
his boys are altogether, I can tell. Yeah, it really
is sweet.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Like I was like, look at Alan, he's just like
I felt like a sister.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I was like, look at Alan, he's just living his
best life. So did his parents come over? Well, so
they were going to fly up to see them in Scotland.
But I was like, listen, if we can bring Rome men,
why don't they come down because it's only like a
six hour drive from Scotland or four to six and
the ger from Scotland to England. So they just drove
down because I'm like, hey, can you guys come down
if we're bringing Roman So it worked out perfect because
(06:13):
it's it is hard for them to fly over here
and sure stuff, So it worked out really well. Yeah. Cute, yeah,
eyelighth Oh do I have an Eyeland well, I don't
have many left, which is probably why my eyes look weird.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Is I don't try to catch you in between segments
and the video gets pulled.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Not many on the eyelashes. But but yeah, we fed
some ducks. We didn't we didn't go into London, but
we just stayed in Henley, which is a really cute
little It looked cute, it was so cute and everything
went adorable. Yeah, I mean just and I just ate
my weight in fish and chips and not don't talk
to me. That sounds amazing. I mean literally every meal
I had fish and fish and chips. It was so good.
(06:49):
And because it's like, you know, you're so tired, I
just crave carts. Oh so it's all I did, was Yes,
I mean I had a croissant twice a day. That's
I was on my rotation and then fish and chips.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Just also, food is so different there though, that it
gives you the ability to be able to do that
without all the junk and grossness and you can actually
like enjoy the food there. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yeah, I went for a really nice, like long run
by the little I don't know what that is, a
river that goes all the way down to London. So
that was really nice. And are we going to almost
identical except for mine was cheercom with the carbs, so
I no long runs, but the carbs are a little different. Yeah,
the carbs are all matching up. But yeah, but I'll
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segment I want to go into y'all's, but I will
say I'll go into my little wine about and then
we can go back. But so he's you know, just
over to is what two years and five months? Is
what he just turned He's not doing while it's sitting
in his seat. Sure at that age, yeah, just too Yeah,
and so I understand he has a seat like I, oh,
(07:47):
bless this man that walks.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Can see there's a Scottish man arm that came out
of the door and put a coffee down on the ground.
And I hope it comes back two more times.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
But I think it's just one. I think it's just one.
Oh shout out. Sorry, I wish I did have a
video of it that didn't come. Awesome opening. I didn't
know he was doing that, so that's really sweet. That's
very sweet. Sorry. Also, things we can't that we don't
have in common. He wouldn't do that. No, Preston would
(08:24):
do that. Yeah, no, just that Allen didn't do it
for us. He doesn't know your order and we're podcasting right,
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I
think probably just didn't know what we were doing, yeah,
or that we're here. What day it is?
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Because you guys just took a trip over the weekend
the UK. Okay, we'll give him some grace wine about it.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Won't stay in his seat because he's just sex and
every back on the CHIE. Sorry, we're gonna squirrel moment
this really fast, so they are a mess. They they
changed the CHIE again back not tried since you said yeah,
but it is close to it and I am fine
with it, close enough to get you back on your
you have to say anything different. Do you just order
(09:04):
it normal extra hot without milk. I took the water
out so it tastes better as the classic. Then's just
still in it now instead of they changed a bunch
of stuff. They changed a bunch of the refreshers and
stuff too, with the purple foam. I don't know about that.
That's the show better. Yeah, okay, better, I am not
as bitter. Okay, good, okay, good or miss but anyways,
(09:29):
let's go back. So I I got yelled at why Okay,
So I'll just say we we were in premium economy, Okay.
We upgraded when we got to the airport. So I'm like,
if this is the one to upgrade, we're upgrading so
he can have a bed and sleep and a lot
(09:51):
of times that's the way to do it. By the way,
by the way, you guys, it's incredible. Let me just
say it's insane. So okay, let's just so I love right,
I'm gonna say, like, how much is a business class
ticket or grading business class flying from London Nashville to
London one way is anywhere between eight to ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
We should clarify that business class when flying overseas is
the first class laid class, yes, lay down first class.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yes, obviously for three people, we're not doing that right.
So we got a premium economy which were eleven hundred
dollars per ticket. So okay, that is what we did, right.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
And that's like the step above the economy for a
couple after a leg room.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
No one step okay, So there's a coonomy with a
premium economy business. So we had a premium economy, which
is essentially a little bit more.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Like it's essentially domestic first class seating. I'm sorry, I
want to take that after the premium economy was three
grand apologies each, I can't remember because I think he
booked them all alcoholic the tickets. Okay, So I don't
remember how, but it was not anywhere near business Okay.
It was definitely more than like an economy, which is
I think a thousand or something that makes more sense. Yeah,
so I think it was more in like the twenty
(11:03):
five hundred.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, I think for all three tickets it was like
five grand okay or something like that. Okay, So Alan
got those tickets very sweet. So we're at the airport
and I'm like, I just have a question. I was like,
how how much is it? Is there any business class?
And how much is it to upgrade? And they're like
five hundred a ticket? And I'm like, sold, that's what
happened to us, crazy sold. It was three point fifty
(11:26):
each for us when we flew back. Is it just
because they're not full? So then at that point they
might as well open seats? Yes, twelve, So I'm like sold,
here we go.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Card I thought she misspoke when she quoted us, and
I was like, whatever you put it on like before
you realized you made a mistake.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Is that for anyone or because you have status you have? Nope,
it's for anyone, but you have to go. So if
you even if you were an economy ticket, you would
just have to pay maybe one thousand dollars instead of
five hundred. We had already paid someone of that upgrade. Yeah,
so like but still you would still get It's way
less than buying crazy. So like, I never buy. And
that's what I learned when I was dating Alan is
I never brought bought a business. I always just upgrade
(12:03):
at the airport. Now, sometimes I didn't get it, sure,
and sometimes I did. Yeah, but no way, and hell
am I forking out? Like yeah, Like I see these
families up there, and I'm like, how you know, maybe
they're doing it the way you're doing it. Maybe, but yeah,
so there's that. So we did that. So but the
thing is he had his own bed right, so he
(12:25):
can't sit right next to each other. So and we're
putting him in a seatbelt, but he keeps climbing out again.
At this point, he's exhausted and he's two and a half.
He's two and a half. So I'm like, I go
to the flight ten and I said, hey, I obviously
you know he's just a little over two and a half.
And she's like, well, he's a ticketed seat and I
said yes, I said, but he keeps getting out of
his buckle and I know we're about to like take off,
(12:48):
and she's like, well, he has to stay in the seat,
and I was like, I get that. I was like,
but if he comes out of his seat, I'm going
to go grab him. She's like, well, you can't. You
have to stay in your seat, and I'm like, just
going to let the baby run around them, Okay. So
I was like, you know, trying to like be patient
with it, and I'm like, I totally understand, Like I get.
I was like, but having said that, I know a
lap child is around pretty much the same age. It's
(13:10):
just a couple of months different where I can hold them,
and I feel like that'd be the safest bet than
him not being in a seatbelt. Right. Yeah, So we're
taking off, he is out of his seatbelt and I'm
just like, man, he's out of his seat belt, Like
I have to unbuckle my seat, man, you want to
darn your street. I'm like, he's on, I'm not gonna
have my child fly up in the air, you know
(13:31):
what I mean? And I grabbed my child. She was
not happy with you sit in, like, not be buckled
when we're taking off in the air. Surely's so pissed.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I well, so I talked afterwards, and you know, she
was just like, well, he has to be in And
I was like, but like, honestly, what like I get
that I need to be I was like, my child
if there's a big bump, like he he doesn't know
how to even like adults get injured.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
I needed to grab him. We were about we were
taking off. Yeah it's wild too because obviously not the
first time that's ever happened, right, but the last the
flight we took back, the lady was just like, you
can absolutely hold him and we'll give you a little conunction.
Thank you so much. Yeah, because we did the same thing.
We upgraded when we got to the airport on the
way back. So I'm like, thank you, yeah, thank you.
(14:19):
Obviously he did not sit in a seat. Yeah, So
and she was just like, we totally understand, like so
and again I get the rules one hundred percent do
but what what do you what do you do well? Safety? Safety?
Would you rather? Do you want a kids?
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Again?
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I just want to know what she would have done
had you not gotten out? Wouldn't just walk and just
let him walk around on takeoff? That seems like a
way bigger issue here, guy, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yeah, let you on the way back. But it was
a great trip, so fun. It was great saying fun
of my waving cooler stuff, like he's so cool. Yeah,
I just feel he's so rad. Like I was just
watched I'm like, Troy Man, how do we be as
cool as you? Yeah? I know I'm always and then
I always say things and I feel stupid passing. I'm
so dumb, Like I'm so old. I mean, we're all dumb.
It's fine, but I like try to be cool and
(15:06):
then I just say things and I'm like, but he's great.
We've got such a great relationship. So you know, it
was really fun to.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Seeing those the boys together and just their pictures and
stuff just so sweet.
Speaker 7 (15:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I was happy forget to watch them score goal in
a game. So it was awesome and I was I
always love it when again I can see Alan's heart, yeah,
and he's just happy. So it was it was nice. Anyways,
it's up with you guys. Well, not much. We didn't
go out of the country. I didn't even leave. You
know what I did? What did I do this weekend? Accurate? Today?
(15:39):
I got my moles checked? That's about it. Oh yeah,
how you doing? Do you all do that? I did?
I just did it last week. I was that was
I was going to ask you guys, do you do
you get skin checks? I don't. You don't need to
because you're just it's.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Not necessarily true, I know, even though there's still no
moles on that body.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Yeah, everything it's about that might be part of my
wind about do we each get one today?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
That's my wine them all, we'll get the chat go
to wine.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Well, I just it's like, is there anything more sobering
than being in your socks brought in underwear at the
dermatologist's office in that lighting, Like, I just don't know
if there's any moment.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
You don't look at yourself. Well, I caught a.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Glimpse in the mirror and I was just like, oh,
a full body mirror. I mean, there's not like a
lot of room to roam, you know right.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
I mean I'll take that any day and every day
over the socks and the the drape for the obg
I n though.
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Speaker 2 (17:33):
By the way, guys, I still got to do my
I still have put off my mammogram. Haven't done it
hapen forever like it and I know I need to
do that. Should we make it like a thing? We
don't go to the same place, do we should? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
You know you need to keep up, and I'm telling
you I have to take it now, KitKat, Well, don't
go by the suggestion suggested. Now there's like they're telling
us now, they're saying years like five a two or
five year.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
For mammogram or pop because they told me two years
for PAP no pap changed, which I would never do.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
And I have to take like a xanax to even
go to the ob gyn and it doesn't even help.
Like that's how much I hate it. But I would
definitely do it every I just.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
Love a yearly check in with everybody.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
At so many things to do, I will say, does
anybody want to do the pernuvo in Chicago? I do, Okay,
I've I've reached out. Okay, so unless I'm just like
I'm doing get to No, you have to wait a
couple of weeks. That's probably good. So I don't want
to show that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I'm like, I don't want to be like in Chicago
and be like, Okay, well, are they going to like
tell me if I have cancer?
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah? But I mean that's but that's what's so that
that's what's Yeah, that's preventive or if or something. They
put us in a two they do. Okay. Also, I
want more fun.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
I mean I love our age group because we're definitely
like we're at a really sweet spot in life, Like,
let's also get our body scanned for cancer, but can
we also get tattoo?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Is all we're out and about. You know what they're
saying about tattoos lately? What are they saying about tattoos?
Speaker 6 (19:06):
Grandma just got my cha, just got my moles checked,
and well, you know what they're saying about.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
It was the accent. You know what they're saying about
that moles chack. Yes, Auntie Catherine Brand Katherine, I don't
even know Catherine is here? What are they saying? I don't.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
I mean, just now they're saying that they cause cancer too,
along with everything else. I mean, trust me, I mean
I got you know, I know, I'm drinking dit coke
every day, so it's fine.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
You know.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I just saw that thing literally pop up the other
day and I was like, oh, we're going to go
get some. I mean I'm in no, no, we must
get checked and at the tattoos.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
At the same time, the man would have meant ballot okay,
But yeah, I'm good with that.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yes, okay, okay, I don't know what I'm gonna get.
Oh see, I took her tattoo away. Wait, why where
is the flowers?
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I didn't know it, so I didn't know you were
getting the Wow. It was only two sessions. Guys. I
still have my hand tattoo from the other she did too. Okay,
that's true. Yeah, this is my favorite tattoo that she did.
I was like, oh, I have one and it was
with you, and yours is gone. She gets hers with
invisible ink and you and I are like, oh, scapped
(20:23):
over for two weeks like nice was scared of nails.
We will No, I just honestly I didn't love it. Well,
it's really gone, can I say? And it was very thin.
I can kind of see it. I might do one
more laser, but you know what's gone. Actually I have
something to chat about. Okay, it's just because can they tattoos?
(20:46):
This one's gonna go right to Mike. Oh no, so
my right bicep. Yeah, dates are gone. His are there
and I noticed it at the baseball game and I'm like,
why is our wedding date still.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
On his arm?
Speaker 6 (21:01):
Well?
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Not everyone can go do all those lasers. Probably he's
got like a best friend that does cover it. Yeah,
cover it.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Oh yeah, you know what I mean, he could just
cover it, not get it laser. Yeah, yeah, I was
just thinking getting late the day off. Your birthday is birthday,
wedding day, No, it's just our wedding dating day. I
have something I don't remember.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
It was twenty I remember, and then Jolie's birthday, huh,
because so I got both removies. Like I just didn't
want it in the same let's add Jace, yeah and or.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
So.
Speaker 7 (21:37):
But I don't know, I just find it, like, you.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Know, I know he doesn't have that girlfriend anymore, but
if I would, I don't know his status now if
he has a new one or whatever. And I don't
care to know at the moment until it involves kids.
But you know, for me, I guess it was just
it was the first time that, you know, because I
just figured by this point it would be gone. Yeah,
(22:00):
there's a lot on me that should be and like
a lot of people don't.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
And like I just feel like though there are a
lot of people that just because they're tattoos that just yeah,
it's not just a tattoo.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
It was our wedding date.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
I know, but that's why you don't do that, right,
because but that's I mean I do because you feel weird.
It's a tattoo, so no, well I feel like you
just like peaked at his armscrap book.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
I don't know that I know other people have covered
up the tattoo that they got of me. Oh I'm sure,
So is this available for pin on tour?
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Because I haven't little so that she doesn't forget just
saying Angel, there's my can I add it to our list?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
But I'm just saying, like you know what I mean, Like, yes,
I'm sure, Yes, I know they've covered a.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Lot of people do and a lot of people lay
with them off like you do. But I do think
a lot of people still have.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
I agree with Catherine, right then, don't get I guess
get it makes me feel removed because I'm like, I
so don't associate with him as being my ex husband
even though he is or married to him, So it's
just weird.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I'm like, what was his wedding day? Yeah, but he
knew things on that wedding day that I didn't know
about cheating on me. That do you want to pay
for him? To get it laser so that it could
be a race for both of them. Has let me ask,
has he gotten tattoos? Sent? Yes, okay, so he covered
(23:29):
my face up? You had your face? God, yes he
did itwhere terrible? No face tattoo is great? And I
know all the ball of flame. The minute you make
me a caricature on your don't do skin. I don't
want it. Don't do what Never I looked like a grandma.
And we even joked about it, so like where was it, Luke?
(23:50):
It was on his shoulders, putting it as like a
spartan or whatever, a cramer. I can't I'm still processing
the fact that your face was tattooed. Are we surprised?
I don't believe he's had because he had a best or.
I think they're still friends. I don't know, but that
he does tattoos, so I would just figure, I mean,
put a block on it. Something I've covered up a lego.
(24:12):
She like's building legos.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
I guess. Can I get a picture of the old tattoo,
I would just be yeah, No, I mean, I'm sure
he probably doesn't have it anymore either. I know we
put it on socials one time because it was a joke,
like I look like a grandma. But yeah, I don't know.
I guess I'm just trying to think if if okay,
this is like Alan's she had, I don't know it
(24:37):
just like that piece. I don't care about people still
have last same last names or this, But I don't
know a wild times you are just a year am
I weird? No, but you're all of the things that
are okay, Like don't care less sharing a last name
with someone, it's wild to me. And you don't care
if I make out with someone you made out with.
But but the tattoo still on is a tatto two
(25:00):
is like permanent for most people, but you can cover
it up. I do think. I don't think about Like
I know somebody right now that was wanting okay, right,
I know somebody that has just gotten married to somebody
and they're upset that the wife has the last name,
(25:22):
and so they want that ex wife to change their name.
And I'm like, I could give two ships that his
my my husband's ex wife has the same last name.
Don't care. Yeah, yoursel's unite, you know what I mean?
Like that's her name? Why would I why would I
care nor ask anybody to change their name. I don't
care about that they have this that's their son's last name.
You know, I'm about to likes likely change it to
(25:44):
to have romans, you know what I mean, like to
ask someone to like that doesn't bother me at all.
But what bothers means a tattoo.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
I don't know, but I do think some people will
be bothered by the last name, but that they are
I would, and I agree.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
I don't it wouldn't bother me.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
But I think I'm just like passionate about that some
people would, so I don't really this is all interesting.
I don't know if any of it would really bother me,
But I don't know. I think it would bother me
if there's a child. I think if there's no child,
then just go back to your maiden name. That's fine,
right right right when there's a kid, I get that.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
I have the kids involved. That's like how it's almost
like how dare that new wife ask someone to change
their name when which happens? But like how I don't understand,
Like help me understand why that's like that is my
biggest but is it still their name? I will say,
this My biggest sadness about divorcing Mike is that I
don't have my kid's last name truly, right, but I
(26:36):
aga stay costing. You know what I mean is like,
but do you feel like that is still your last name?
Like that?
Speaker 1 (26:44):
That's where I can see the other side of that going.
Do you feel I think it depends on how long
you've been married too, Like does that really still feel
like your last name?
Speaker 2 (26:51):
What do you mean if you're not married to that
person anymore? No, my mom was married for how many
years to my dad? So twenty plus something years? My
mom to was like, I mean she ended up changing it, right,
but like she stayed Cramer for and that was her identity.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
So like for people that have been married for that long,
like my mom too, I get that, like you were
that for almost longer than you weren't, right.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
But we have a friend that has gotten divorced maybe
the similar situation that was like ten is years, and
that is that's her name, That's what she's been branded for,
that's what she's her kids nate last names are this?
How dare that woman to then ask? Because it's right,
maybe it happened, so then you know what I mean right,
I think I see both sides. That's where we go.
(27:36):
We're trying to.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Figure out who get through the puzzle there. Yeah, a
tattoo bothers me more and you know what, to each
their own.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
I see both sides of the tattoo in the sense
that I don't think that everyone has the means to
laser them off. It's it's money time pain. I mean,
there's a lot of things, but the covering it up
with another their tattoo. If he's gotten more tattoos, I
do think that he could have done.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
I will say this too about the name, since we're
just on that as well. When Mike does get remarried,
you know that person will take casts and that will
hurt knowing that they have the same name as my kids.
So it's more about the name of the kids than
it is the Yeah, that's why, not about her taking
the name. It's about the fact that it's the same
(28:24):
as my kids, and it's like they right right, yeah,
you know, so that's the piece that I couldn't on
the other side, go change your name right as my kids,
I'm connected to them, right. I think that's why, which
is why I struggle Honestly, if I'm asking becoming a
Russell because I don't want to just be Romans, I
(28:49):
haven't changed it yet and just say Kramer because I'm like,
I'm not taking my kids' names, either the Bigs or Romans.
But then I don't you know, I know Alan would
like me change it. Yeah, that's tricky, so I feel
little stuck. I'm not gonna lie, So can you just hyphenate?
Speaker 5 (29:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:07):
I mean I think that's what I'll end up doing.
It just becomes a little messy with.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I would I'm kidding. It does make me sad, you
know that makes sense. That would be hard for me too.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
But I would never say even to it. Even as
the mom of the kids. I would never say to
the wife that he maybe ends up marrying you can't
take Cosson what world do would I have them? But
that's but then how could that mom then go tell
the other person to not take the name.
Speaker 7 (29:34):
It's even worse on.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
The other side, like to get rid of more of
a stance to say don't take the name. You can't
take the name because my kids as opposed to the
new kids and not a marriage.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Yeah, yeah, but that other person's probably looking at it
as the marriage, and no, I have more right to
that name because I'm married to him, you're no longer
married to him. But also just right, I see, But
I could see where someone would feel that way too.
But now, I mean, I wouldn't bother me. So where
do we stand If there's no kids. I think you
should just go back to your og name. If you
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do have kids, I think it's fine. I don't care
what anyone's really doing as long as they're happy. But
I would I'm just putting myself as a position if
I was the new wife, Like I have an ex
husband floating out and about, I want her to have
his last name and I no longer wanted it, but
(30:26):
we didn't have kids, So I just think, I but
that's a little maybe, that's a little my like a
type OCD. I like it when things like match. So
that would just like, Okay, you guys are all tucked
in and you are officially the bill in the blanks. Well,
you wouldn't have wanted to keep you didn't want to
keep content. It's just the kid's part that's completely different.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Yeah, so you are not officially a rustle yet, No,
I'm not. Yeah, they's like, can we just not that process?
I mean, Social Security Office had whiplash for me for
a minute because it was like, wait.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Second to go back then just getting you ahead me?
Love you Alan? Can we just keep her a grammer?
Speaker 6 (31:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:05):
I know, I almost changed you in my phone.
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Actually, I love how we just get to these topics
we're we forget people are actually listening to our nonsense.
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It's called listen.
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If you want to, you say something. You're doing so good,
keep going and keep going.
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Speaker 2 (32:08):
My husband and I have been married for fourteen years.
We have three children. Have honestly always gotten along well
during our marriage. The last few years have been tough.
I think it's the stage my kids are in, but
we have just been off a lot of the time.
I will admit I searched my husband's phone every now
and then. I recently discovered that he looks at women's
profiles on social media that are half naked in their pictures.
This devastates me. I have found this and told him
(32:30):
multiple times before that I feel like that crosses a line.
He always answers with an excuse or deflects on me.
I'm tired of you making me feel like a bad person.
He's such a wonderful human being about so many things,
but this just bothers me. There have been other things
that make me feel like he's hard to trust over
the years as well. When I was a kid, I
discovered that my dad was cheating on my mom and
she said to me she knew about it, and that
(32:51):
was it. I remember feeling like I couldn't believe she
put up with that, and how devastated it made me.
My husband knows all of this, and so I just
don't get why he continues to hurt me in this way.
I feel so disappointed. Help how do I handle this?
So I personally find it And I'll say this, even
when I would date people, I would look to see
(33:13):
the follow list, and when I saw when it's them
following a bunch of half naked super modey chicks on Instagram,
I don't personally love that, and I think it says
a lot about the guy. I also know guys that
are in relationships and still follow those people that are
married and still follow those people. To me, that isn't
(33:38):
the respectful right thing to do if you're in a
respectful relationship. For me, personally, I just don't like I
wouldn't love that. And that's one of the things that
I loved when I was on you know, looking at
Alan's followers, when it's like you just know the type
of guy, right, that's like following those only a lot
of those profiles, and I find it very attractive that
(34:02):
you know he didn't, and then if he did, I
would be like, what, like why why, yeah, why why
do you need to look at that? Like it would
bother me so much if that's the kind of women
that he was following a great social media as a
way personally, we went in and cleaned up like the
business account for Preston because you know, like a lot
(34:24):
of you remember, and it's nothing kinda says, so, I'm
so sorry. I don't mean to interrupt you. And it's
it's not that these women aren't beautiful. I'm not saying
bad about the women, like, no, all beautiful, stunning, all
of that. I just appropriate. Yeah, I just don't think
it's appropriate as a married man. To me, it's essentially
reading like like there's just the Playboy or one of
(34:46):
those kind of yeah.
Speaker 6 (34:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
And like even for us, it was like, you know,
remember when when social like Instagram really started to take off,
it was like follow, follow back, like that was always
just like that was the algorithm if you were like
the system. Like even for me, like I'm following seventy
five hundred people what, No, I'm not, I'm really not,
but like probably I was like, oh, following your small business,
you know whatever. So we went through this is years ago,
(35:09):
but like we went through the same thing where I
was like, I don't know why you're in you know,
more people have access to that account to follow So
it is tricky and I get it, but I don't
think that makes any wife feel good, Like I don't
think that makes any partner feel good.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
I don't think it is appropriate. I think especially if
you're feeling the way you're feeling like.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Well, and she's already voiced that it makes her rightable. Yeah,
and I would just I mean, I don't know that
I have ever really gone through followers necessarily, but I
just would be like, but why, I just you know, like, yeah,
what's the point and just following a bunch of I
don't understand the point, you know, unless you know, because
(35:53):
then it's just going to make a woman feel like
he either wants to cheat or is cheating, right, And
that may not be the truth, that may not be
the truth at all, but the way that that lends itself,
it it feels that way.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Well, it feels like why would you why would you
even start that? Right?
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Nothing, they're I'm always careful to just not step in
a bear trap, but it's like, what intention is behind
you doing that? Nothing that is associated with loving and caring.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
About your wife first. Yeah, so just the why a
little more simple? Yeah, Yeah, And that's the thing I
would ask why. My only thing, though, is this is
where I would go. I don't want to be the
one to make the person delete them. I want them
to come up with the idea because if not, they
can delete all they want and they'll just search. Yeah, right,
(36:43):
you know what I mean. Like that's where I also
don't already know that too. Yeah, so it's I would
just be like, why, why do you feel the need
to follow these people? What is it doing for you?
And you know, because this is how it makes me feel.
So I'm just trying to maybe go on the understanding route. Yeah,
(37:04):
and also making him because he sounds like he's a
great husband.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
Yeah, there's probably some shame in there somewhere though, that's
why he's defensive.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Well, and maybe there's something I need to talk about
and figure out. Maybe there's something deep down that it
lends itself to a really good conversation of figuring out
what that is and why that is. And you know,
he's probably being a faithful husband. I mean, you know,
he it's just but talk about it, figure it out,
get to the why and the underneath of why.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
But you're not crazy for feeling that way because I
can say, I mean, Kat, would you be upset if
Nick followed.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Yeah, I just think it's I would just think it's odd.
Like I mean, I've always been the I've always been
the female. That's like if you want to go with
your brother when he's getting married to the bachelor the
strip club, I don't care. Like that truly doesn't bother me.
If it's an instance, you know, or whatever. I've always
been that way. But that I again would just go to,
(37:55):
but what's the point. Why are you following these women?
You don't know them, like, just to look at them
to get off on them. You know, your brain just
goes to all these reasons of why. So yes, that
would bother me in that sense.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
And then that's where your brain is then taking you
out of your own relationship exactly for that person that's
just like yeah, exactly and yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
That lends itself to that. So again, I would want
to get down to the why. I don't know that
I would just get like angry, but I would definitely
want to get down to the why and have a
conversation and.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Then say how it makes you feel too secure.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Or absolutely, and I will say it does come back
to like last week. If you know, she says she
already told them, told him that it makes her uncomfortable.
Now that's where I definitely would get upset, Like if
I've already voiced that I am uncomfortable with it, then
I would like something to.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Maybe, which is why when Nick listened to the episode,
oh last week and as three girls, and it's like, Nick,
you knew, like you knew, so like we had every
right then to chat about it. Oh, I told him
when we left, he goes, I figured, y'all would.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
I would say our default and our default answer to
this one too, which is like, get a good therapist
if you can. I know it seems silly, but like
sometimes a third party, objective opinion can speak clearly and
more effectively into your spouse and maybe even you. Yeah, yep,
this is a good one to bring to a therapist. Oh, ladies, well,
(39:20):
I love you.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
I love you.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
I'm not but I'm gonna be somewhere next week. But
I'll tell you that on the next podcast A little bit. Bye.
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