April 27, 2026 • 37 mins
Jana is filming another movie, but she ALMOST left the country for another job that she turned down! She opens up about the deeply personal decision and how it could affect her career.
The ladies dive into the spiral of “worst case scenario”, and how it be challenging to live in the present when everything feels so uncertain.
Plus, Kathryn shares what she’s doing to protect her peace from the negativity of social media.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Hi, So this is a pre record.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Yes, I think we have to kind of like throw
that out there because.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yeah, we're gonna throw that out there because right now,
when it airs, I think it's so hard to because
I wish it could be. I wish I could just
be live, and actually no, I don't.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I like to edit. Yeah, we don't edit a whole lot,
but like we do have to like really go back,
and I feel like we edit less than we sometimes regret.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
If that makes sense. It does make sense, you know.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I feel like sometimes we get out of here and
I'm like, ooh, we really shouldn't have said that. But
then it's like, you know what, I think it's okay,
we can keep it.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, and that's something that we should pin here in
a little bit here. But I so on socials right now.
You know why I have a hard time doing this,
doing what what I'm about to do?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Well, no, because I don't know what dreams do.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I'm superstitious in a maybe it's not a superstitious, but
it's more of like I can't say right now, like
I'm filming because I'm like, what if something happened, and
like what if I don't know? Like I think I
go to that kind of worst case feeling. So I
was about to say right now in my stories you'll
(01:19):
see that I'm filming, But then I'm like, but what
if something happened and what if I actually didn't get
to the set? Like That's where my brain goes immediately
when I think I don't know that that's superstitious.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I think that what is that you guys scenario?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah? I mean, because it's like you just don't know.
I promised so true it is true. Yeah, so I'm
I I have that so in my back of my
mind that I have a hard time going like that's
why anytime you guys listen to this or when we
sit here, I'm like, well, we can't say that because
we have to pretend like we did it, and I
(01:56):
can't do that. And I'm like, something could happened, ye happen.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah, yeah, so you're not going to say what you
were gonna say or in.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Theory right now as this records again, like oh my god,
what if I'm like a hospital? But I you know
what I mean, Like this is where I have a
hard time saying this because I feel like it just
kind of sets it up for it not then happening.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
No, we're going to be positive thinking in theory.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Where I'm at when this records is supposed to be
I'm supposed to be in San Antonio. Yes, so we're
recording this live on what is this April seventeenth. So
I'm supposed to be going to San Antonio next week?
You're coming with me?
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I am I get to go to San Antonio.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, this is better than well.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
This is what I was going to say. I'm very
excited about San Antonio as much as I loved Cleveland, Oklahoma,
Oklahoma and Cleveland. I will say though, I did get
a voice memo a couple of weeks ago that.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Said, Hey, the Dominican Republic.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Do you want to go to the Dominican Republic? Alas,
we are not in the dominic public.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
So that was a tease. It was a tease, but
it wasn't going to be actually the right, No, it
was the Diminic Republic, but it wasn't the pretty resort.
That's right, right, tru most likely right right? Yeah, would
have been exciting, And that's not why I didn't do
that movie.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
No, I know it's just funny. San Antonio sounds great though.
I do love San Antonio hum and I loved all
the areas we've been before. And the reality is when
you go and you're filming, or if you're on the
road doing shows or whatever, it's not like you're actually
like you're where you're at, you know. And it's usually
these small towns that you you record your film are
filming in, you know, So it doesn't really matter where
(03:43):
you are.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Remember that one time we were in Oklahoma and we're like,
where's the nearest Whole Foods? And it was like fifty minutes.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
You almost wanted to go. I was like, we are
not going an hour to Whole Foods, and so we
went to one.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
I was like, oh yeah, we did go.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Oh yeah. I have a bi called.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah that's true. She goes to Oklahoma in the middle
of winter and by yeah, in Cleveland with no jacket
in the middle of winter, Like traveling with the jacket,
Why aren't you cold on a plane?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Well, I wear a sweatshort, sweatshirt. I wear a sweatshirt
on the plane. But it's I've seen you do it.
It looks like a pain in the butt. Carriage, you
have a jacket and the airplane.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
No, man, I love it.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Okay, maybe I'll try it next time. I did get
a nice new jacket though. In Cleveland it is going
to be very warm. In San Antonio, yes, well yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
In Sery, it's supposed to be very warm. In very
I'm wearing shorts right now in my Instagram story.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
You know, I really struggle with that.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I gotta say there, if something happens and you're in
hospital bed, I'm going to be like, Okay, we are
never ever know.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I'm like starting to get a little bit of it's
going to be great thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
But thank you for the invite. I'm so excited. I'm
so excited.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah. I was kind of bummed.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
At first, I know, thinking that they weren't going to
maybe be able to do it.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
So, I know, I spoke about a little bit about
the Dominican thing, but I got offered that a movie
and the Dominican It was for a month, and I
was really struggling with it because there's something like an
ocean away from the kids that feels I was That's
what I was telling you. I was like, it just
feels far I'm going to miss so many gay, I'll
miss field Day, I'll miss Mother's Day. And like the
(05:26):
travel there, it's not that bad. It was like six
to eight hours, but.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
It's not easy for you to just hop back or
they came the.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Day off and you know, and they condensed it like
kind of. But it was just one of those things
where I'm like, if I'm not one hundred percent passionate
about it, I just in my mind it's like I
don't want to miss I missed field Day last year,
and I still still makes me like sad. And I understand,
(05:54):
you know that happens, and I couldn't. I had I
was filming the other movie in Kentucky and whatever, but
and the kids were able to come with me to
Mother's Day. But I just when I started thinking about it,
and then this other movie came around, and so in
my mind it was actually less money than the Dominican one.
But I get to direct. I know, that's so exciting.
(06:16):
Never directed. I'm in theory. I'm very excited right now.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
My story how is that like studying process going?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Then it's wild. So I have an entire I'll show
you this. Maybe I'll give the people to it's a
little sneak peak. So this is my shot deck of
all the shots. So I've just like I've been staying
up until like two three in the morning just going
through all like different shots that I want to have.
And you know, today we've got a page turner with
everybody and I got to pick locations. And then it's
(06:46):
so weird being in this seat because I was telling Alan,
I was like, I don't really like that front porch
and he goes then say you want a different front
porch and I'm like, oh no, I don't want it.
And then I was like, okay, wait, wait maybe I can.
I was like, I actually don't like that porch. Can
we look for something like this? And She's like, yep, absolutely,
And I'm like, oh, this is so much fun.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
That's so fun.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
And so it's yes, i'm a little I'm I'm nervous,
but Christy Wolf she's an amazing director, producer, and she's
going to be she's coming on as an EP to
kind of be there and support because I'm also going
to be acting in it.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Well yeah, that was my next question.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, so it's gonna be nice to have her eyes
on it too. So and this is the part that's tragic.
I have to play guitar in it.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I saw human been out the guitar on your stories.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Did you see the cobwebs on the case? Oh my goodness,
it's and then that's why my nails. I don't have
my nails. But yeah, And then what makes it even
worse is that my love interest in the movie. I
called him, you know, because as the director I have
to call and be like, hey, thanks so much for
signing on board and really excited, and do you have
any ideas or thought? And I said, and you know
(08:02):
in one of the scenes where I'm playing guitar, and
I said, do you play guitar? He's like, oh, yeah,
very well, And I'm like, oh, I immediately got so nervous.
So yeah, I've been practicing and it's been it's something.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Just tell him you told him, right, you just I mean,
you've never played a whole lot.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I know my characters. She's a singer songwriter.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Well that's fine, but maybe you should just be upfront
with the guy that really knows how to play that.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I know he knows me.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yea, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
He was laughing at my story the other day when
I was in bed with Alan No. I mean gosh,
even on stage, I knew how to play whiskey. But
you guys, they turned my guitar down. Yeah, like all
the way down so I can strum it, you know,
because it's like they it looks good. Yeah, but my
(08:48):
volume was down. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Doesn't that make you wonder how many peoples are down? No,
because I think they're actually legit a lot of them.
But I bet a lot of them are down, you.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Think so, yeah, see, I would think that most of
theirs would be up.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
It's some like the truth, I think you can kind
of like yeah, but some of those that are just
up there, I bet they're down.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Really, because it was always a fun set when Whiskey
would come out and and I remember giving it that
was it felt cool. But the guitar players were like
move book.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Their least favorite part of the show.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
If I was one of those band guys, I would
have kept that audio just to hear what it's ut. Like.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I'm sure it's somewhere yep man haunting me.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
But yeah. So that's so I've been trying to learn
how to play guitar. Got to sing in it, so
I'm learning songs and then I director getting shots doing
so today yeah, just so, and then picking up the
wardrobe for peeps and so it's been really fun. And
then casting has been really fun. Wow.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I didn't realize they do all of that. I mean,
I guess I did, but like that you have to
do all.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Of that, I know, and then getting all the shotless
I have to be like, okay, we need you know,
the WID's here and up with. So it's been a lot.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
So you are going to like essentially set up a
shot and then you go act in it. Somebody else
is gonna watch it while a thing to then watch. Yeah,
does that make it take longer?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah? And we have eleven days to shoot this in eleven.
This is the fastest. The last one I did in twelve.
This is eleven.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
It's gonna be fun to watch.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, So I was sure there for the music stuff.
When is that the next week? Of course? Yeah? Sorry,
but anyways, but I'm really excited that you're coming. I'm
sorry it's not Dominican, okay, but I get to be back.
So I'm only gone for like two weeks and some change. Yeah,
and then I'll be back for the softball in baseball, tournament. Yep,
week I'll be back the night and in the field
(10:43):
day and then Mother's Day weekend. Yeah, we're going to
go to the lake in theory. Yeah we can't even
say we're going to the lake now.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I had no idea.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Oh really, it really messes with me.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I mean I knew it for like work stuff like
you don't like to say it before it was done.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
And every single time I say to the kid underneath
my breath, I'll be like, all right, i'll see you.
I'll see you in two nights. God willing like I
say that, I don't know. I have such a hard
time saying Okay, i'll see you then, or because you
just don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
You know what's funny about that. One of the things
that you used to always do in music is so
the opposite of that. Remember how you used to go
on stage and tell people a single was coming out.
We were like, no, should like a singles coming out
in March, And we're like, no, it's not. You wanted
to will it. You thought if you said it, then
the label would be like, Okay, we'll put it out
(11:32):
in March. Maybe that's where that comes from, because then
it didn't come.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
It doesn't come. The role didn't come. Oh man, Yeah,
good time, So we stair Darcy didn't come for a
long time.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Oh man.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
One of my girlfriend's Tamman. Do you know Tamman some
pretty little liars. So she actually just posted something online,
a very viral thing she tested for a TV show.
It didn't get it. She didn't get it, Okay, people
responded like j Lo Jennifer Garner being like, girl, like,
we get it. It's like it went viral, right, And
so she's coming on to play my best friend in
(12:23):
the movie. So I called her, and I've got some
people's doing some faths for me on this one because
it's a low budget, right, But everyone's like, it's only
a couple of days, let's go have some fun. I
think that's where a lot of people are at right now.
It's like people just want to work and have fun, yeah,
with friends. So you know, she's just like she's even
said she's like, I don't know if I believe in
(12:44):
the When one door closes, another one opens. She's like,
it's all just which kind of made me start thinking,
oh god, I get that. And I said, for all
the no's that I've had it's still been ten years
since I've been on a show. I'm still waiting. So
but I know what I do know. It'll come eventually,
I hope at least, but if not, might as well
just have fun, right, But I don't know. I just
(13:07):
start thinking about that because it's like you just don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah, you don't. Do you feel better about the roles
that you've turned down?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I feel so, even though again I'm pretty sure my
managers on the brink of dropping me. I feel very strong.
I feel I do not regret turning that role down,
not one bit good.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
And that's where I think you've grown so much, thanks friend,
Because I even worry about when you turn stuff down,
how you're going to react to turning it down. Yeah,
you know, the regret and what if the money doesn't
come or what if another movie doesn't come? And you
know all that. But you seem so much at peace
this time, which is great.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
I think because when I was talking to another mom
at softball before the big monsoon came in, Oh my gosh,
which by the way, should talk about to talk about that, Absolutely,
we have to talk about that. But I I was
telling her, She's like, you know, her daughter's in middle
school and you know, about to be going to high
school next year. And she was saying, how you know,
(14:04):
she just like loves watching these games. I said, girl,
I get it, I said, you know. I was also
offered something in June. I was like, I want to
be with my We talked about so many times in here,
but I'm like, I just want to be with my
family on the lake and enjoy summer. Because you start
thinking about and I know you're at this place right
now with your oldest I'm like, you don't get getting
many summers and I want to enjoy. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Well, and they're still young and not so busy in
the summer, right, So to be able to go to
the lake is like a huge luxury, right, I know.
I mean with the ages that they are, and they
just get so busy in the summer. So until they
start like those school sports where it's all during the summer, go, yeah,
I totally agree with you.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
So and again I think opportunities. There's a reason why
not do that. I think opportunities come. And now I
get to, you know, try the directing piece, and I
think it's I'll learn stuff. I'll see if I like it. Yeah,
I love it, but the game, yes, so we had
a competing game. I'm so mad that it got rained out.
It stormed out, which, by the way, the ride home,
(15:04):
I wish Pam was here chatting about this because three
cars in front of me, a lightning struck a transformer
and the light that it went into the sky, it
was like this bluish white like yeah, it almost like
made you like blind, and then you see the sparks
coming off.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Jolie screaming in the it terrified. I was like, and
so everyone stopped and they thought that it was like
laying in the the road, so we had to turn around.
And this, I mean it is like, you know, the
trees are still loose from the ice storms. Yeah, it's
flying everywhere. She's freaking out. In the back. Pam's calling me,
oh my god, I do see that. I'm like, you're
on speaker phone. Yeah. I was like I saw it.
(15:46):
I'm trying to calm down in the back like she
was just like yeah, your heart like just like screaming.
So I'm like, what do we do? So I call
Mike and I'm like, don't you have a friend that
lives in traditions, and I was like, we were I
was right in front of there, and so he's like, yeah,
I was like, can you please send me the thing?
You know, she's Jolie's like I'm praying to God and
I'm like they you do it, Like we're good. But
(16:08):
I had National Severe ex on and it's like they
said no tornado concerns. So I wasn't worried about that,
but I don't like the fact of the I mean
there's a bunch.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Of trees, a lot of lightning, a lot of lights.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah, and that was scary.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I mean, we stayed at the field too long. Someone
needed to make that call sooner. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
So we're you know, our teams are playing Ramsey and
Harlow and Jolie Jolian Harlow on the same team. Ramsey's
on Nolansville and was it. We played like what two innings.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
But I mean, I mean we didn't even get to
bat a second time because it never came. Ramsey never
even matt it.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, because I know Jolie had just got one on
the top of the second Yeah, yeah, she got to
like second base or whatever. But the this storm, I
was like, is anybody calling that.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
I mean literally, we're all just standing there, like seeing
lightning all around. Yeah, and sweet Umpire didn't seem to
be the most professional umpire I've ever seen in my life.
And I was like, hey, guy, to your job, like,
you've got to be aware of this. You've got to
call this game because it is about to dump. We
were about to just grab her, Yeah, it was. And
(17:08):
then of course everyone's like making mass exodus.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I mean it was. I think that's the part that
scared Julie. Yeah, me too, because it was just like, yeah,
it was this everybody's running. Yeah, and it's just like
the sky was so dark. It was so dark, I
mean it was scary dark. Yeah, that's cats kept check
him like are you sure there's no tornadoes? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
I know. And then my son was there and his
girlfriend and she had driven, and she won't let him
drive her car, and so they probably just because like
I don't know, she just doesn't want him to, I guess.
May I don't know if maybe her parents don't want
because of insurance reasons. Technically you can get in trouble
for that, you know. But he was like trying to
like just let me drive, and she wouldn't let him,
and then I was like calling them, and I was like,
(17:46):
it's actually really bad. But they lived close. She lives close,
so they went to her house. But I was like,
and then I remembered that Emmy was at home. She
had walked with her friends to the publics because you know,
we live in a smaller town, so but it takes
a while. So we had these trails or whatever, and
I'm like, oh my god, I'm looking at life three sixty.
Her phone is dead, and I'm.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Like, you gotta get home.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
She made it home, So anyway, it was very dramatic.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Yeah, because in my mind, I'm like, if there's a
tornado threat, I'm going into the bathrooms. Like I'm not
getting in the car. That's the last thing. That's what
I kept telling you. There's no But at the same time,
like this is not great.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Right, I mean, well, Ramsey was shaking too. Yeah, I
mean it just like sixty five mile parway.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Well, Ramsey has asked me about the lightning. I was like,
it's fine in the car because we've got rubber tires.
She's like really, I was like, I actually have no idea.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I made what Dad's told us because I.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
And then she was mortified. I was like, I really
don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
But our there was already we had one inning and
our team already was that your your coach came out
there was we have different rules, and so.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I was literally like yelling at my coach because I
knew we were both right, uh huh, and I've already
dealt with this. This happens to us every time, different coaches,
different whatever. For some reason with softball, because we don't
have enough teams in all of our cities, Like baseball,
Nolan'sville will play each other, brent Wood plays each other.
Essentially with these wreck and softball, you play different cities,
(19:11):
and these different fields have a little bit of different rules.
They have their own umpires and all the things. So
I knew immediately when this happened. I was like, oh gosh,
because we do that every single time. Well, our coaches
are fighting it. The umpire's confused, as I'll get out.
He doesn't know what's happening because he just knows his rules.
You know. It was just such a thing. And then
I realized, and we can't even finish the game that
(19:33):
I'm like, there's a rule, y'all. Don't have that we
do that, like we could have scored on or y'all could,
I mean, anyone can that we could really score on people.
So it's like, ooh, I just realized they don't have
this rule. So it's like we could do this, and
then the game got canceled.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, it would have been a good game though.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
It would have been a great game. Y'all are great
your pitcher catcher, well, pitcher is it's all about the pitcher. Yeah,
and catcher at this age really, but that catcher.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yeah, she's great. She can really throw hich is great.
She's really really.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I was really impressed. So it would have been a
great game. I was just so, I know, but it
was fun. That'll meet again on the field. But anyways,
that's that. Got anything to whine about. Oh no, I
I'm not gonna talk about my wine about it. I've
just I've I've sat on it for hours this morning
and I've decided things frustrate me, but I need to
(20:24):
just let it go. So I'm not gonna I understand
that we're here for a reason on a podcast and
that we can whine about things, but when people do
things that frustrate me on social media, for instance, I'll
just say something happen on social media. It really frustrated,
doesn't even have anything to do with me, doesn't affect
me in the least. But I really wanted to come
(20:44):
on here and talk about it and get other people's opinions.
But then I'm like, that doesn't help anything. So I
went to the group did you went to us? And
mind you?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I'm just leaving therapy and I see thirty six text messages.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I just need to talk about this. But I feel
like it helps me because then I don't necessarily come
here and then make a fool.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I can go with thirty thousand feet. I know, it's
just so hard. It happens.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I think lately there have been a few instances where
people have listened and heard things that we've talked about
on here, and it's offended them or embarrassed them or
made them mad. And truly, at the end of the day,
that's not our intention, No, it's really not. So That's
why I went back and forth with this one, because
I'm like, I'm an acquaintance. I'd say with this person,
(21:29):
we're not necessarily friends, but something that this person posted
on social media really rubbed me wrong. But I'm like,
is that my place to go in?
Speaker 2 (21:40):
No?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
And I didn't say anything to this person. I didn't,
you know, So is it my place to go on
here and complain about it? I don't know. I think
that makes me more of a I love to get
people's opinions here, and I love to talk about things.
But it's just hard because I don't want to offend people.
I don't want to hurt people. Would I say this
to this person's face, Yeah, if we were in a room,
I actually probably would, because that's my personality. I think
(22:03):
what's hard for me and these situations is when people
on all all everywhere, me, you, anyone is always trying
to be present something very that you're passionate about and
being tolerant for everyone and being you know not. We're
(22:26):
trying so hard to not be judgmental. We're trying so
hard to do but then to go and post something
on social media that feels very the opposite of being judgmental,
of being judgmental, and look, we've all accidentally done it.
We've all accidentally done it. That's why I'm trying not
to like I've made mistakes. People have, you know, but
this one just really it rubbed me wrong, and I
(22:50):
just I'm like, that's not it's it's not fair. It's
not fair to be so.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
It's not fair to call one person out right, or
it's not fair to call certain people out and not
the others.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
In a way, Yeah, I think, and that's I think
that's my frustration. Like I think everyone's welcome to have
their opinions, and it's their social media account, so that's
the other thing, Like you have every right to post
whatever you want on your social media, but I don't.
It just rubs me wrong when it's like constantly preaching
this inclusivity of everybody and then straight calling somebody out who,
(23:26):
from what I could tell, has has done nothing wrong.
And so it just really it just it didn't sit
well with me this morning. And but then I realized too.
I was like, I can choose to unfollow, I can
choose to mute to mute, you know, and that's what
that's what I did. You know, I like, because what
does that have to do with me? It has nothing
to do with me. It only happens to.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Just her hypocrisy that bothered you. Yeah, I think more
than anyone, like That's what I like. When there was
someone I actually she was an acquaintance, and I actually
did DM her, and I think it was because to me,
it was like she was judging people for the decisions
that we that that didn't suit her. And I'm like, right,
(24:06):
just because I bought in a neighborhood that is more
track homes and you say people stop buying these homes,
doesn't like that felt judgmental, right, yeah, you know, and
that bothered me, So I said something, Right, I don't
have the luxury to buy an old house and then
knock it down and then build again, right, and everybody
has the money to that, So it feels a little
(24:26):
judgmental that you tell people to not to do that. Yeah,
when people can't write, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Or might choose not to, they might like that.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah, I would actually prefer an older neighborhood that has
trees and doesn't look so cookie cutter like ours, right,
truth to be told, you know, But I you know,
I don't. I don't have the luxury to revile the
certain things, you know, So I didn't want to allocate
it there, right either, Right, But like it just felt
(24:56):
kind of judging judgmental, So I could see that. So
that's where because I'm like, okay, what was what was
it that made you feel a certain way? Right? Maybe
it's the hypocrisy.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah, I think it is for sure.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
And I don't want calling out people.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Yeah, And I don't want anyone to be called out, sure,
any anyone. I truly don't. But again, I have made
my own mistakes in the past, so I'm not saying
I'm better than that or not better than that. We
all make our mistakes on social media. But also I
think that when we when certain people do have a
big platform, also we kind of have to, like I
(25:31):
don't know, if you're teaching one thing, we kind of
have to try and stay on that same track. I
don't know, it just it really got me this morning
and I was like, I just really need to talk
about this. Yeah, but I think it also did something
to me to go, this doesn't affect me, This has
nothing to do with me. There's nothing that it hits
like a personal chord, you know, all the things. So
(25:52):
I'm like, so, why am I so bothered by it?
And to go you know what, I do know why
and I do it is that hypocrisy but also that
doesn't affect me, so like, why is this even taking
up my day? That's really kind of where I got
to it on the way here, after hours of stewing
over this social media post, like why does that matter
to me so much? So then I just was like, anyway,
I made it, my wine about it anyway.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
But I think it's good though. I think it's good
for people to to to see how it can affect
someone and then to go, wait, how is this actually
affecting my life? Right? Because I do think that it
was not It wasn't a great choice.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
No, it was not a good choice.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
But again, we've all done it, yeah, and it doesn't
need to affect our day because it wasn't towards right, right, Like,
but I get why though, right right?
Speaker 1 (26:36):
But I think that that's I'm like, okay, ultimately that
person took it down, yes, which which again we have
all been in situations where we have posted something and
people pointed things out We're like, oh my gosh and
took it down.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
So again we were all in I remember, I've done It's.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
All I could think about this morning, softball, literally all
I could think about this morning. So I don't think
I want to give the benefit of the doubt that
it was not. Yes, and it will or intentionally to
hurt exactly to intentionally hurt someone, but it just I
think at the end of the day, my whole point
really is what did that do to me? Why are
(27:16):
we now in this place of whatever other people are doing.
Why does it bother us so much? And that's where
I'm kind of trying to look in and go, I
know that on this podcast, like we do wine about
it and we want to whine about things. But at
the same time, I'm trying to go, Okay, so maybe
I have this wine, but what can I do to
turn this around? I think that's kind of my new
(27:38):
instead of just trying to find something to complain about.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I like that. Okay, thanks, great, That's where.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I'm at today at this moment. I'll let you know
how it goes tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Until until you and then see something again. I think
that's great.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
So yeah, that's my one about it today.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Thanks. Parenting influencer accidentally ran over son with car oh
this is awful. A parenting influencer has taken to Instagram
(28:15):
to share the story of the worst days of the
worst day of their lives. Last she saw her twenty
three month old son was inside the garage while she
pulled her car out to take her four year old
to run errands. In a matter of seconds, he ran
out and was run over by the car. He had
sustained pulvic fractures and some minor abrasions, but by a miracle,
he'll be okay with no further serious injuries. The influencer
(28:35):
urged parents to always hold their child's hand around vehicles,
do not assume they know or will stay where you
last saw them, even when you are not distracted, even
when you are not rushing, it can still happen in
the blink of an eye. This has been always one
of my biggest things. Even I think this actually happened
even today when I was taking the kids to the
bus stop. We usually I just take them down the car,
(28:58):
but Roman always wants to like go or walk. But
that time usually Avery's coming and Alan was in the
garage and I called out like five times, you got
Robin right Even in my mirror backing up, I see
he's not there, but I'm still like you got a
blind spots. I mean, I just it freaks me out
because the reality is most times they don't make it.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Yeah, you know, Yeah, there's a Christian artist and I
wish I could remember his name. Right now, I'm blanking
that this happened two years and years ago.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Did they die, Yes, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
And this was I mean, gosh, I could have been
in high school or college even It's been a long time,
but it has just stuck with me. He lived in
the area. I can't remember if it was with Stephen
Curtis Jostephen Hrshchatman. Yes, And it has just sat with
me since I remember hearing about it and how traumatizing
(29:54):
that is. And I know cars are better now with
like the beeping and stuff, but there's still spots that
they don't be there's still spot that you can't see.
And like you know, with Kateen driving, he drives an
older truck who doesn't have all that, and I'm like,
my biggest fear, I'm like, stop before you go out
of the driveway and like not even I mean at
this point, not our kids because they're older, but like
we live in a neighborhood with kids running around everywhere,
(30:16):
and it terrifies me. I just can't even imagine. Yeah,
the I mean the pain of losing a child anyway,
and then.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Oh my god. Yeah, yeah, it's awful, But I think
it's one of those things where it was even a
good reminder. When I saw the rundown, I was like, babe, yeah,
like this is why I'm being so crazy about this.
You know, it's like stories like this. Luckily nothing happened,
only that, yeah know, too terrible, right, but it's a
(30:44):
good reminder to go, yeah again, no matter blind spots
or what mm hm, awful things could well.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
And it's terrible because you know, like the Stephen Curtis
Shapman thing, you know, you never it's so hard to
see the good and things when things like that happened.
But like that stuck with me. I know that's stuck
with a lot of people. And I think it in
turn and this odd it's hard to say that like
really helped save lives because people pay attention more, you know,
And yeah, oh it's just terrible though, that's scary, so scary.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Olivia Clpo bribes Christian McCaffrey to make content with her.
In a recent TikTok, Olivia posted a parent's night out
TikTok with her husband Christian McCaffrey. The caption says, mom
and Dad's night out. He did this TikTok in exchange
for a full golf day. I find that so funny. Hi,
did you? I really do. I also think Olivia Coppo
is so stunning, stunning, She's so like both her sisters
(31:38):
are stunning. I still, you know, when we say we
have things that we wish we could go back on
the podcast, she doesn't like me because of what had
Mike had said a long time bag remember this, yeah,
a long time ago, and it's one of those things
that where I'm like, oh my gosh, like it was
he had made a comment and we just like kind
(31:59):
of talked about it. But I actually was like, I
remember I was talking to her sister. I'm like, but
I defended her, you know what I mean, Like I did,
But then I was like did I. Then he's because
you forget, you know, and I'm like, oh, sometimes I'm
like but I listen back and I'm like, no, I did. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Maybe just when it's like conversational and you're not like disagreeing,
it feels like someone's not yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
And then like when a headline can make it exactly,
but I'm always just like please. I was like, when
we're talking to her sister, I'm like, please tell her
I love her, like and she's stunning. But I think
it's funny because listen, Alan is I remember, I'll have
like content days. I don't even ask him anymore. It's
not his thing and I'm not going to force him
or make him be right in anything. I think it's
(32:42):
funny that, you know. I mean, listen, sometimes I'll have
Alan like he did. He was so mad about those
Oh my god, he was so mad. He I mean
jokingly mad, right, like you want me to be in boxers?
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
On my Instagram, I was like, I do I do
strip eight strip, but like we had fun with it,
you know, but it's the lessen. I maybe bribe them
with something too, for if it wasn't a golf trip,
but I wasn't doing no goodness gracious but no, I
(33:21):
mean I things like that, like he's he's always helpful,
but when it comes to like doing other tiktoks, I
just know that's just not in his personality and I've
just it's not fun for him. So I'm like, I'm
not going to ask him. My brother just do it
with the kids or you know, or with the girls
or something, because it's just not his personality. Yeah, it's
funny unless it's you know, something silly, but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Well, and then it's like if you just do it
every now and then instead of like always trying to
try and commits.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
I always I just think it's always cute to have
your partners.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Some of us just don't like the camera.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Yeah, I mean you're good in them, huh.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
I'm what No, No, I don't like it either.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Well listen, Okay, so golf days maybe a little, some little,
all good. My husband, who was my high school sweetheart,
had an emotional affair approximately nine years ago. We stayed
together and most days are great, but I've never fully
recovered from it. I find I am always worried I
am going to make him mad. He's never ever shown
(34:25):
anger or aggression towards me, but I'm always apologizing or
asking if he's upset with me, and I truly think
it's a PTSD issue. Since the affair, how can I
put this behind me and move on? We have two
children now, and I'm literally living in my dream life
the house we always wanted the kids, the car, the time,
and a career. But yet I find myself still having
horrible dreams. He picks her over me and it all
(34:47):
comes crumbling down. Advice, please, that's hard. So it's an
emotional affair and she just needs to get past ago.
You know what I would say if you wanted to
be with her, like if you guys are so happy now,
like if he wanted to be with this person, he'd
be with a person, right right, do you know what
(35:07):
I mean? Yeah? Where it's like you're look at who
he is today, maybe there was something that he was
going through dealing with. Like we're all we're not perfect
human beings. We're very imperfect. So nine years ago, I mean,
who is he today? I was shown up today? It
sounds like you guys are having you know, a great life,
(35:28):
great career. If you start to feel like there's things
happening or regression or he's up to something, then then
there's a check in and then I can see maybe
feeling that way. But again I also feel, you know,
things can come up, but I would just say, focus
on who he is today and he's how he's acting,
(35:51):
And if someone wants to be with someone, they'll be
with someone. It's kind of my thought too.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Yeah, and if he's not giving you any reason to
feel like he's doing anything now, yes, you know, how
is he showing up today? Is he?
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Is he?
Speaker 1 (36:05):
And if he's made up for it then But you know,
as far as it is to just say, Okay, he's
not doing anything, get over it, Like I don't know
how that feels, and like how that keeps showing up,
I can't really speak to that. I'm sure it still
shows up even if he's not giving her.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Reasons because there was a breach of trust. Yeah, a
breach of you know, that's that's not that's not a
great feeling, right right, But again it's I just go
back to try and stay as present as possible, focus
on the because then you're just stealing your own joy
in the moment.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Yeah, I mean, and that's the thing, like life is
too short, these kids are growing up, you know, to
just sit there and dwell on those things for too long. Yeah,
there's a way to focus on the now and the positive.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
My therapist was telling me something. It kind of relates
to this in a way where you know there could
be a fire, right, So this emotional affair is the fire.
Sometimes the ashes from a fire are soil for wildflowers
to grow in, right, so like the soil of the
from the ashes are there. But yet, now you know,
(37:14):
nine years post you're having a beautiful life and everything
is great and the kids, the career, everything, you have
all these beautiful wildflowers. It's okay that sometimes the soil
can come up, right, that's just natural because that's what
the weeds and the flowers grew up in.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Yeah. I like that.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
So, yeah, just it's okay that you feel that, like
that's a normal thing. But in that moment, just remember
all the flowers that have bloomed since then. Yeah, I
love that.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
It's a good one.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
It's an Amy one for you, like she's a good one.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Thanks Amy.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
All right, well God willing see you next week.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Bye.
Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Hi, So this is a pre record.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Yes, I think we have to kind of like throw
that out there because.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yeah, we're gonna throw that out there because right now,
when it airs, I think it's so hard to because
I wish it could be. I wish I could just
be live, and actually no, I don't.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I like to edit. Yeah, we don't edit a whole lot,
but like we do have to like really go back,
and I feel like we edit less than we sometimes regret.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
If that makes sense. It does make sense, you know.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I feel like sometimes we get out of here and
I'm like, ooh, we really shouldn't have said that. But
then it's like, you know what, I think it's okay,
we can keep it.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, and that's something that we should pin here in
a little bit here. But I so on socials right now.
You know why I have a hard time doing this,
doing what what I'm about to do?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Well, no, because I don't know what dreams do.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I'm superstitious in a maybe it's not a superstitious, but
it's more of like I can't say right now, like
I'm filming because I'm like, what if something happened, and
like what if I don't know? Like I think I
go to that kind of worst case feeling. So I
was about to say right now in my stories you'll
(01:19):
see that I'm filming, But then I'm like, but what
if something happened and what if I actually didn't get
to the set? Like That's where my brain goes immediately
when I think I don't know that that's superstitious.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I think that what is that you guys scenario?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah? I mean, because it's like you just don't know.
I promised so true it is true. Yeah, so I'm
I I have that so in my back of my
mind that I have a hard time going like that's
why anytime you guys listen to this or when we
sit here, I'm like, well, we can't say that because
we have to pretend like we did it, and I
(01:56):
can't do that. And I'm like, something could happened, ye happen.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah, yeah, so you're not going to say what you
were gonna say or in.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Theory right now as this records again, like oh my god,
what if I'm like a hospital? But I you know
what I mean, Like this is where I have a
hard time saying this because I feel like it just
kind of sets it up for it not then happening.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
No, we're going to be positive thinking in theory.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Where I'm at when this records is supposed to be
I'm supposed to be in San Antonio. Yes, so we're
recording this live on what is this April seventeenth. So
I'm supposed to be going to San Antonio next week?
You're coming with me?
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I am I get to go to San Antonio.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, this is better than well.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
This is what I was going to say. I'm very
excited about San Antonio as much as I loved Cleveland, Oklahoma,
Oklahoma and Cleveland. I will say though, I did get
a voice memo a couple of weeks ago that.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Said, Hey, the Dominican Republic.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Do you want to go to the Dominican Republic? Alas,
we are not in the dominic public.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
So that was a tease. It was a tease, but
it wasn't going to be actually the right, No, it
was the Diminic Republic, but it wasn't the pretty resort.
That's right, right, tru most likely right right? Yeah, would
have been exciting, And that's not why I didn't do
that movie.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
No, I know it's just funny. San Antonio sounds great though.
I do love San Antonio hum and I loved all
the areas we've been before. And the reality is when
you go and you're filming, or if you're on the
road doing shows or whatever, it's not like you're actually
like you're where you're at, you know. And it's usually
these small towns that you you record your film are
filming in, you know, So it doesn't really matter where
(03:43):
you are.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Remember that one time we were in Oklahoma and we're like,
where's the nearest Whole Foods? And it was like fifty minutes.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
You almost wanted to go. I was like, we are
not going an hour to Whole Foods, and so we
went to one.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
I was like, oh yeah, we did go.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Oh yeah. I have a bi called.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah that's true. She goes to Oklahoma in the middle
of winter and by yeah, in Cleveland with no jacket
in the middle of winter, Like traveling with the jacket,
Why aren't you cold on a plane?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Well, I wear a sweatshort, sweatshirt. I wear a sweatshirt
on the plane. But it's I've seen you do it.
It looks like a pain in the butt. Carriage, you
have a jacket and the airplane.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
No, man, I love it.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Okay, maybe I'll try it next time. I did get
a nice new jacket though. In Cleveland it is going
to be very warm. In San Antonio, yes, well yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
In Sery, it's supposed to be very warm. In very
I'm wearing shorts right now in my Instagram story.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
You know, I really struggle with that.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I gotta say there, if something happens and you're in
hospital bed, I'm going to be like, Okay, we are
never ever know.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I'm like starting to get a little bit of it's
going to be great thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
But thank you for the invite. I'm so excited. I'm
so excited.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah. I was kind of bummed.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
At first, I know, thinking that they weren't going to
maybe be able to do it.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
So, I know, I spoke about a little bit about
the Dominican thing, but I got offered that a movie
and the Dominican It was for a month, and I
was really struggling with it because there's something like an
ocean away from the kids that feels I was That's
what I was telling you. I was like, it just
feels far I'm going to miss so many gay, I'll
miss field Day, I'll miss Mother's Day. And like the
(05:26):
travel there, it's not that bad. It was like six
to eight hours, but.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
It's not easy for you to just hop back or
they came the.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Day off and you know, and they condensed it like
kind of. But it was just one of those things
where I'm like, if I'm not one hundred percent passionate
about it, I just in my mind it's like I
don't want to miss I missed field Day last year,
and I still still makes me like sad. And I understand,
(05:54):
you know that happens, and I couldn't. I had I
was filming the other movie in Kentucky and whatever, but
and the kids were able to come with me to
Mother's Day. But I just when I started thinking about it,
and then this other movie came around, and so in
my mind it was actually less money than the Dominican one.
But I get to direct. I know, that's so exciting.
(06:16):
Never directed. I'm in theory. I'm very excited right now.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
My story how is that like studying process going?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Then it's wild. So I have an entire I'll show
you this. Maybe I'll give the people to it's a
little sneak peak. So this is my shot deck of
all the shots. So I've just like I've been staying
up until like two three in the morning just going
through all like different shots that I want to have.
And you know, today we've got a page turner with
everybody and I got to pick locations. And then it's
(06:46):
so weird being in this seat because I was telling Alan,
I was like, I don't really like that front porch
and he goes then say you want a different front
porch and I'm like, oh no, I don't want it.
And then I was like, okay, wait, wait maybe I can.
I was like, I actually don't like that porch. Can
we look for something like this? And She's like, yep, absolutely,
And I'm like, oh, this is so much fun.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
That's so fun.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
And so it's yes, i'm a little I'm I'm nervous,
but Christy Wolf she's an amazing director, producer, and she's
going to be she's coming on as an EP to
kind of be there and support because I'm also going
to be acting in it.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Well yeah, that was my next question.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, so it's gonna be nice to have her eyes
on it too. So and this is the part that's tragic.
I have to play guitar in it.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I saw human been out the guitar on your stories.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Did you see the cobwebs on the case? Oh my goodness,
it's and then that's why my nails. I don't have
my nails. But yeah, And then what makes it even
worse is that my love interest in the movie. I
called him, you know, because as the director I have
to call and be like, hey, thanks so much for
signing on board and really excited, and do you have
any ideas or thought? And I said, and you know
(08:02):
in one of the scenes where I'm playing guitar, and
I said, do you play guitar? He's like, oh, yeah,
very well, And I'm like, oh, I immediately got so nervous.
So yeah, I've been practicing and it's been it's something.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Just tell him you told him, right, you just I mean,
you've never played a whole lot.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I know my characters. She's a singer songwriter.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Well that's fine, but maybe you should just be upfront
with the guy that really knows how to play that.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I know he knows me.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yea, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
He was laughing at my story the other day when
I was in bed with Alan No. I mean gosh,
even on stage, I knew how to play whiskey. But
you guys, they turned my guitar down. Yeah, like all
the way down so I can strum it, you know,
because it's like they it looks good. Yeah, but my
(08:48):
volume was down. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Doesn't that make you wonder how many peoples are down? No,
because I think they're actually legit a lot of them.
But I bet a lot of them are down, you.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Think so, yeah, see, I would think that most of
theirs would be up.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
It's some like the truth, I think you can kind
of like yeah, but some of those that are just
up there, I bet they're down.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Really, because it was always a fun set when Whiskey
would come out and and I remember giving it that
was it felt cool. But the guitar players were like
move book.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Their least favorite part of the show.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
If I was one of those band guys, I would
have kept that audio just to hear what it's ut. Like.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I'm sure it's somewhere yep man haunting me.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
But yeah. So that's so I've been trying to learn
how to play guitar. Got to sing in it, so
I'm learning songs and then I director getting shots doing
so today yeah, just so, and then picking up the
wardrobe for peeps and so it's been really fun. And
then casting has been really fun. Wow.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I didn't realize they do all of that. I mean,
I guess I did, but like that you have to
do all.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Of that, I know, and then getting all the shotless
I have to be like, okay, we need you know,
the WID's here and up with. So it's been a lot.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
So you are going to like essentially set up a
shot and then you go act in it. Somebody else
is gonna watch it while a thing to then watch. Yeah,
does that make it take longer?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah? And we have eleven days to shoot this in eleven.
This is the fastest. The last one I did in twelve.
This is eleven.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
It's gonna be fun to watch.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, So I was sure there for the music stuff.
When is that the next week? Of course? Yeah? Sorry,
but anyways, but I'm really excited that you're coming. I'm
sorry it's not Dominican, okay, but I get to be back.
So I'm only gone for like two weeks and some change. Yeah,
and then I'll be back for the softball in baseball, tournament. Yep,
week I'll be back the night and in the field
(10:43):
day and then Mother's Day weekend. Yeah, we're going to
go to the lake in theory. Yeah we can't even
say we're going to the lake now.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I had no idea.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Oh really, it really messes with me.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I mean I knew it for like work stuff like
you don't like to say it before it was done.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
And every single time I say to the kid underneath
my breath, I'll be like, all right, i'll see you.
I'll see you in two nights. God willing like I
say that, I don't know. I have such a hard
time saying Okay, i'll see you then, or because you
just don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
You know what's funny about that. One of the things
that you used to always do in music is so
the opposite of that. Remember how you used to go
on stage and tell people a single was coming out.
We were like, no, should like a singles coming out
in March, And we're like, no, it's not. You wanted
to will it. You thought if you said it, then
the label would be like, Okay, we'll put it out
(11:32):
in March. Maybe that's where that comes from, because then
it didn't come.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
It doesn't come. The role didn't come. Oh man, Yeah,
good time, So we stair Darcy didn't come for a
long time.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Oh man.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
One of my girlfriend's Tamman. Do you know Tamman some
pretty little liars. So she actually just posted something online,
a very viral thing she tested for a TV show.
It didn't get it. She didn't get it, Okay, people
responded like j Lo Jennifer Garner being like, girl, like,
we get it. It's like it went viral, right, And
so she's coming on to play my best friend in
(12:23):
the movie. So I called her, and I've got some
people's doing some faths for me on this one because
it's a low budget, right, But everyone's like, it's only
a couple of days, let's go have some fun. I
think that's where a lot of people are at right now.
It's like people just want to work and have fun, yeah,
with friends. So you know, she's just like she's even
said she's like, I don't know if I believe in
(12:44):
the When one door closes, another one opens. She's like,
it's all just which kind of made me start thinking,
oh god, I get that. And I said, for all
the no's that I've had it's still been ten years
since I've been on a show. I'm still waiting. So
but I know what I do know. It'll come eventually,
I hope at least, but if not, might as well
just have fun, right, But I don't know. I just
(13:07):
start thinking about that because it's like you just don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah, you don't. Do you feel better about the roles
that you've turned down?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I feel so, even though again I'm pretty sure my
managers on the brink of dropping me. I feel very strong.
I feel I do not regret turning that role down,
not one bit good.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
And that's where I think you've grown so much, thanks friend,
Because I even worry about when you turn stuff down,
how you're going to react to turning it down. Yeah,
you know, the regret and what if the money doesn't
come or what if another movie doesn't come? And you
know all that. But you seem so much at peace
this time, which is great.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
I think because when I was talking to another mom
at softball before the big monsoon came in, Oh my gosh,
which by the way, should talk about to talk about that, Absolutely,
we have to talk about that. But I I was
telling her, She's like, you know, her daughter's in middle
school and you know, about to be going to high
school next year. And she was saying, how you know,
(14:04):
she just like loves watching these games. I said, girl,
I get it, I said, you know. I was also
offered something in June. I was like, I want to
be with my We talked about so many times in here,
but I'm like, I just want to be with my
family on the lake and enjoy summer. Because you start
thinking about and I know you're at this place right
now with your oldest I'm like, you don't get getting
many summers and I want to enjoy. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Well, and they're still young and not so busy in
the summer, right, So to be able to go to
the lake is like a huge luxury, right, I know.
I mean with the ages that they are, and they
just get so busy in the summer. So until they
start like those school sports where it's all during the summer, go, yeah,
I totally agree with you.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
So and again I think opportunities. There's a reason why
not do that. I think opportunities come. And now I
get to, you know, try the directing piece, and I
think it's I'll learn stuff. I'll see if I like it. Yeah,
I love it, but the game, yes, so we had
a competing game. I'm so mad that it got rained out.
It stormed out, which, by the way, the ride home,
(15:04):
I wish Pam was here chatting about this because three
cars in front of me, a lightning struck a transformer
and the light that it went into the sky, it
was like this bluish white like yeah, it almost like
made you like blind, and then you see the sparks
coming off.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Jolie screaming in the it terrified. I was like, and
so everyone stopped and they thought that it was like
laying in the the road, so we had to turn around.
And this, I mean it is like, you know, the
trees are still loose from the ice storms. Yeah, it's
flying everywhere. She's freaking out. In the back. Pam's calling me,
oh my god, I do see that. I'm like, you're
on speaker phone. Yeah. I was like I saw it.
(15:46):
I'm trying to calm down in the back like she
was just like yeah, your heart like just like screaming.
So I'm like, what do we do? So I call
Mike and I'm like, don't you have a friend that
lives in traditions, and I was like, we were I
was right in front of there, and so he's like, yeah,
I was like, can you please send me the thing?
You know, she's Jolie's like I'm praying to God and
I'm like they you do it, Like we're good. But
(16:08):
I had National Severe ex on and it's like they
said no tornado concerns. So I wasn't worried about that,
but I don't like the fact of the I mean
there's a bunch.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Of trees, a lot of lightning, a lot of lights.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah, and that was scary.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I mean, we stayed at the field too long. Someone
needed to make that call sooner. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
So we're you know, our teams are playing Ramsey and
Harlow and Jolie Jolian Harlow on the same team. Ramsey's
on Nolansville and was it. We played like what two innings.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
But I mean, I mean we didn't even get to
bat a second time because it never came. Ramsey never
even matt it.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, because I know Jolie had just got one on
the top of the second Yeah, yeah, she got to
like second base or whatever. But the this storm, I
was like, is anybody calling that.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
I mean literally, we're all just standing there, like seeing
lightning all around. Yeah, and sweet Umpire didn't seem to
be the most professional umpire I've ever seen in my life.
And I was like, hey, guy, to your job, like,
you've got to be aware of this. You've got to
call this game because it is about to dump. We
were about to just grab her, Yeah, it was. And
(17:08):
then of course everyone's like making mass exodus.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I mean it was. I think that's the part that
scared Julie. Yeah, me too, because it was just like, yeah,
it was this everybody's running. Yeah, and it's just like
the sky was so dark. It was so dark, I
mean it was scary dark. Yeah, that's cats kept check
him like are you sure there's no tornadoes? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
I know. And then my son was there and his
girlfriend and she had driven, and she won't let him
drive her car, and so they probably just because like
I don't know, she just doesn't want him to, I guess.
May I don't know if maybe her parents don't want
because of insurance reasons. Technically you can get in trouble
for that, you know. But he was like trying to
like just let me drive, and she wouldn't let him,
and then I was like calling them, and I was like,
(17:46):
it's actually really bad. But they lived close. She lives close,
so they went to her house. But I was like,
and then I remembered that Emmy was at home. She
had walked with her friends to the publics because you know,
we live in a smaller town, so but it takes
a while. So we had these trails or whatever, and
I'm like, oh my god, I'm looking at life three sixty.
Her phone is dead, and I'm.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Like, you gotta get home.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
She made it home, So anyway, it was very dramatic.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Yeah, because in my mind, I'm like, if there's a
tornado threat, I'm going into the bathrooms. Like I'm not
getting in the car. That's the last thing. That's what
I kept telling you. There's no But at the same time,
like this is not great.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Right, I mean, well, Ramsey was shaking too. Yeah, I
mean it just like sixty five mile parway.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Well, Ramsey has asked me about the lightning. I was like,
it's fine in the car because we've got rubber tires.
She's like really, I was like, I actually have no idea.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I made what Dad's told us because I.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
And then she was mortified. I was like, I really
don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
But our there was already we had one inning and
our team already was that your your coach came out
there was we have different rules, and so.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I was literally like yelling at my coach because I
knew we were both right, uh huh, and I've already
dealt with this. This happens to us every time, different coaches,
different whatever. For some reason with softball, because we don't
have enough teams in all of our cities, Like baseball,
Nolan'sville will play each other, brent Wood plays each other.
Essentially with these wreck and softball, you play different cities,
(19:11):
and these different fields have a little bit of different rules.
They have their own umpires and all the things. So
I knew immediately when this happened. I was like, oh gosh,
because we do that every single time. Well, our coaches
are fighting it. The umpire's confused, as I'll get out.
He doesn't know what's happening because he just knows his rules.
You know. It was just such a thing. And then
I realized, and we can't even finish the game that
(19:33):
I'm like, there's a rule, y'all. Don't have that we
do that, like we could have scored on or y'all could,
I mean, anyone can that we could really score on people.
So it's like, ooh, I just realized they don't have
this rule. So it's like we could do this, and
then the game got canceled.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, it would have been a good game though.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
It would have been a great game. Y'all are great
your pitcher catcher, well, pitcher is it's all about the pitcher. Yeah,
and catcher at this age really, but that catcher.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yeah, she's great. She can really throw hich is great.
She's really really.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I was really impressed. So it would have been a
great game. I was just so, I know, but it
was fun. That'll meet again on the field. But anyways,
that's that. Got anything to whine about. Oh no, I
I'm not gonna talk about my wine about it. I've
just I've I've sat on it for hours this morning
and I've decided things frustrate me, but I need to
(20:24):
just let it go. So I'm not gonna I understand
that we're here for a reason on a podcast and
that we can whine about things, but when people do
things that frustrate me on social media, for instance, I'll
just say something happen on social media. It really frustrated,
doesn't even have anything to do with me, doesn't affect
me in the least. But I really wanted to come
(20:44):
on here and talk about it and get other people's opinions.
But then I'm like, that doesn't help anything. So I
went to the group did you went to us? And
mind you?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I'm just leaving therapy and I see thirty six text messages.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I just need to talk about this. But I feel
like it helps me because then I don't necessarily come
here and then make a fool.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I can go with thirty thousand feet. I know, it's
just so hard. It happens.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I think lately there have been a few instances where
people have listened and heard things that we've talked about
on here, and it's offended them or embarrassed them or
made them mad. And truly, at the end of the day,
that's not our intention, No, it's really not. So That's
why I went back and forth with this one, because
I'm like, I'm an acquaintance. I'd say with this person,
(21:29):
we're not necessarily friends, but something that this person posted
on social media really rubbed me wrong. But I'm like,
is that my place to go in?
Speaker 2 (21:40):
No?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
And I didn't say anything to this person. I didn't,
you know, So is it my place to go on
here and complain about it? I don't know. I think
that makes me more of a I love to get
people's opinions here, and I love to talk about things.
But it's just hard because I don't want to offend people.
I don't want to hurt people. Would I say this
to this person's face, Yeah, if we were in a room,
I actually probably would, because that's my personality. I think
(22:03):
what's hard for me and these situations is when people
on all all everywhere, me, you, anyone is always trying
to be present something very that you're passionate about and
being tolerant for everyone and being you know not. We're
(22:26):
trying so hard to not be judgmental. We're trying so
hard to do but then to go and post something
on social media that feels very the opposite of being judgmental,
of being judgmental, and look, we've all accidentally done it.
We've all accidentally done it. That's why I'm trying not
to like I've made mistakes. People have, you know, but
this one just really it rubbed me wrong, and I
(22:50):
just I'm like, that's not it's it's not fair. It's
not fair to be so.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
It's not fair to call one person out right, or
it's not fair to call certain people out and not
the others.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
In a way, Yeah, I think, and that's I think
that's my frustration. Like I think everyone's welcome to have
their opinions, and it's their social media account, so that's
the other thing, Like you have every right to post
whatever you want on your social media, but I don't.
It just rubs me wrong when it's like constantly preaching
this inclusivity of everybody and then straight calling somebody out who,
(23:26):
from what I could tell, has has done nothing wrong.
And so it just really it just it didn't sit
well with me this morning. And but then I realized too.
I was like, I can choose to unfollow, I can
choose to mute to mute, you know, and that's what
that's what I did. You know, I like, because what
does that have to do with me? It has nothing
to do with me. It only happens to.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Just her hypocrisy that bothered you. Yeah, I think more
than anyone, like That's what I like. When there was
someone I actually she was an acquaintance, and I actually
did DM her, and I think it was because to me,
it was like she was judging people for the decisions
that we that that didn't suit her. And I'm like, right,
(24:06):
just because I bought in a neighborhood that is more
track homes and you say people stop buying these homes,
doesn't like that felt judgmental, right, yeah, you know, and
that bothered me, So I said something, Right, I don't
have the luxury to buy an old house and then
knock it down and then build again, right, and everybody
has the money to that, So it feels a little
(24:26):
judgmental that you tell people to not to do that. Yeah,
when people can't write, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Or might choose not to, they might like that.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah, I would actually prefer an older neighborhood that has
trees and doesn't look so cookie cutter like ours, right,
truth to be told, you know, But I you know,
I don't. I don't have the luxury to revile the
certain things, you know, So I didn't want to allocate
it there, right either, Right, But like it just felt
(24:56):
kind of judging judgmental, So I could see that. So
that's where because I'm like, okay, what was what was
it that made you feel a certain way? Right? Maybe
it's the hypocrisy.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah, I think it is for sure.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
And I don't want calling out people.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Yeah, And I don't want anyone to be called out, sure,
any anyone. I truly don't. But again, I have made
my own mistakes in the past, so I'm not saying
I'm better than that or not better than that. We
all make our mistakes on social media. But also I
think that when we when certain people do have a
big platform, also we kind of have to, like I
(25:31):
don't know, if you're teaching one thing, we kind of
have to try and stay on that same track. I
don't know, it just it really got me this morning
and I was like, I just really need to talk
about this. Yeah, but I think it also did something
to me to go, this doesn't affect me, This has
nothing to do with me. There's nothing that it hits
like a personal chord, you know, all the things. So
(25:52):
I'm like, so, why am I so bothered by it?
And to go you know what, I do know why
and I do it is that hypocrisy but also that
doesn't affect me, so like, why is this even taking
up my day? That's really kind of where I got
to it on the way here, after hours of stewing
over this social media post, like why does that matter
to me so much? So then I just was like, anyway,
I made it, my wine about it anyway.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
But I think it's good though. I think it's good
for people to to to see how it can affect
someone and then to go, wait, how is this actually
affecting my life? Right? Because I do think that it
was not It wasn't a great choice.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
No, it was not a good choice.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
But again, we've all done it, yeah, and it doesn't
need to affect our day because it wasn't towards right, right, Like,
but I get why though, right right?
Speaker 1 (26:36):
But I think that that's I'm like, okay, ultimately that
person took it down, yes, which which again we have
all been in situations where we have posted something and
people pointed things out We're like, oh my gosh and
took it down.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
So again we were all in I remember, I've done It's.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
All I could think about this morning, softball, literally all
I could think about this morning. So I don't think
I want to give the benefit of the doubt that
it was not. Yes, and it will or intentionally to
hurt exactly to intentionally hurt someone, but it just I
think at the end of the day, my whole point
really is what did that do to me? Why are
(27:16):
we now in this place of whatever other people are doing.
Why does it bother us so much? And that's where
I'm kind of trying to look in and go, I
know that on this podcast, like we do wine about
it and we want to whine about things. But at
the same time, I'm trying to go, Okay, so maybe
I have this wine, but what can I do to
turn this around? I think that's kind of my new
(27:38):
instead of just trying to find something to complain about.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I like that. Okay, thanks, great, That's where.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I'm at today at this moment. I'll let you know
how it goes tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Until until you and then see something again. I think
that's great.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
So yeah, that's my one about it today.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Thanks. Parenting influencer accidentally ran over son with car oh
this is awful. A parenting influencer has taken to Instagram
(28:15):
to share the story of the worst days of the
worst day of their lives. Last she saw her twenty
three month old son was inside the garage while she
pulled her car out to take her four year old
to run errands. In a matter of seconds, he ran
out and was run over by the car. He had
sustained pulvic fractures and some minor abrasions, but by a miracle,
he'll be okay with no further serious injuries. The influencer
(28:35):
urged parents to always hold their child's hand around vehicles,
do not assume they know or will stay where you
last saw them, even when you are not distracted, even
when you are not rushing, it can still happen in
the blink of an eye. This has been always one
of my biggest things. Even I think this actually happened
even today when I was taking the kids to the
bus stop. We usually I just take them down the car,
(28:58):
but Roman always wants to like go or walk. But
that time usually Avery's coming and Alan was in the
garage and I called out like five times, you got
Robin right Even in my mirror backing up, I see
he's not there, but I'm still like you got a
blind spots. I mean, I just it freaks me out
because the reality is most times they don't make it.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Yeah, you know, Yeah, there's a Christian artist and I
wish I could remember his name. Right now, I'm blanking
that this happened two years and years ago.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Did they die, Yes, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
And this was I mean, gosh, I could have been
in high school or college even It's been a long time,
but it has just stuck with me. He lived in
the area. I can't remember if it was with Stephen
Curtis Jostephen Hrshchatman. Yes, And it has just sat with
me since I remember hearing about it and how traumatizing
(29:54):
that is. And I know cars are better now with
like the beeping and stuff, but there's still spots that
they don't be there's still spot that you can't see.
And like you know, with Kateen driving, he drives an
older truck who doesn't have all that, and I'm like,
my biggest fear, I'm like, stop before you go out
of the driveway and like not even I mean at
this point, not our kids because they're older, but like
we live in a neighborhood with kids running around everywhere,
(30:16):
and it terrifies me. I just can't even imagine. Yeah,
the I mean the pain of losing a child anyway,
and then.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Oh my god. Yeah, yeah, it's awful, But I think
it's one of those things where it was even a
good reminder. When I saw the rundown, I was like, babe, yeah,
like this is why I'm being so crazy about this.
You know, it's like stories like this. Luckily nothing happened,
only that, yeah know, too terrible, right, but it's a
(30:44):
good reminder to go, yeah again, no matter blind spots
or what mm hm, awful things could well.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
And it's terrible because you know, like the Stephen Curtis
Shapman thing, you know, you never it's so hard to
see the good and things when things like that happened.
But like that stuck with me. I know that's stuck
with a lot of people. And I think it in
turn and this odd it's hard to say that like
really helped save lives because people pay attention more, you know,
And yeah, oh it's just terrible though, that's scary, so scary.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Olivia Clpo bribes Christian McCaffrey to make content with her.
In a recent TikTok, Olivia posted a parent's night out
TikTok with her husband Christian McCaffrey. The caption says, mom
and Dad's night out. He did this TikTok in exchange
for a full golf day. I find that so funny. Hi,
did you? I really do. I also think Olivia Coppo
is so stunning, stunning, She's so like both her sisters
(31:38):
are stunning. I still, you know, when we say we
have things that we wish we could go back on
the podcast, she doesn't like me because of what had
Mike had said a long time bag remember this, yeah,
a long time ago, and it's one of those things
that where I'm like, oh my gosh, like it was
he had made a comment and we just like kind
(31:59):
of talked about it. But I actually was like, I
remember I was talking to her sister. I'm like, but
I defended her, you know what I mean, Like I did,
But then I was like did I. Then he's because
you forget, you know, and I'm like, oh, sometimes I'm
like but I listen back and I'm like, no, I did. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Maybe just when it's like conversational and you're not like disagreeing,
it feels like someone's not yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
And then like when a headline can make it exactly,
but I'm always just like please. I was like, when
we're talking to her sister, I'm like, please tell her
I love her, like and she's stunning. But I think
it's funny because listen, Alan is I remember, I'll have
like content days. I don't even ask him anymore. It's
not his thing and I'm not going to force him
or make him be right in anything. I think it's
(32:42):
funny that, you know. I mean, listen, sometimes I'll have
Alan like he did. He was so mad about those
Oh my god, he was so mad. He I mean
jokingly mad, right, like you want me to be in boxers?
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
On my Instagram, I was like, I do I do
strip eight strip, but like we had fun with it,
you know, but it's the lessen. I maybe bribe them
with something too, for if it wasn't a golf trip,
but I wasn't doing no goodness gracious but no, I
(33:21):
mean I things like that, like he's he's always helpful,
but when it comes to like doing other tiktoks, I
just know that's just not in his personality and I've
just it's not fun for him. So I'm like, I'm
not going to ask him. My brother just do it
with the kids or you know, or with the girls
or something, because it's just not his personality. Yeah, it's
funny unless it's you know, something silly, but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Well, and then it's like if you just do it
every now and then instead of like always trying to
try and commits.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
I always I just think it's always cute to have
your partners.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Some of us just don't like the camera.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Yeah, I mean you're good in them, huh.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
I'm what No, No, I don't like it either.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Well listen, Okay, so golf days maybe a little, some little,
all good. My husband, who was my high school sweetheart,
had an emotional affair approximately nine years ago. We stayed
together and most days are great, but I've never fully
recovered from it. I find I am always worried I
am going to make him mad. He's never ever shown
(34:25):
anger or aggression towards me, but I'm always apologizing or
asking if he's upset with me, and I truly think
it's a PTSD issue. Since the affair, how can I
put this behind me and move on? We have two
children now, and I'm literally living in my dream life
the house we always wanted the kids, the car, the time,
and a career. But yet I find myself still having
horrible dreams. He picks her over me and it all
(34:47):
comes crumbling down. Advice, please, that's hard. So it's an
emotional affair and she just needs to get past ago.
You know what I would say if you wanted to
be with her, like if you guys are so happy now,
like if he wanted to be with this person, he'd
be with a person, right right, do you know what
(35:07):
I mean? Yeah? Where it's like you're look at who
he is today, maybe there was something that he was
going through dealing with. Like we're all we're not perfect
human beings. We're very imperfect. So nine years ago, I mean,
who is he today? I was shown up today? It
sounds like you guys are having you know, a great life,
(35:28):
great career. If you start to feel like there's things
happening or regression or he's up to something, then then
there's a check in and then I can see maybe
feeling that way. But again I also feel, you know,
things can come up, but I would just say, focus
on who he is today and he's how he's acting,
(35:51):
And if someone wants to be with someone, they'll be
with someone. It's kind of my thought too.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Yeah, and if he's not giving you any reason to
feel like he's doing anything now, yes, you know, how
is he showing up today? Is he?
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Is he?
Speaker 1 (36:05):
And if he's made up for it then But you know,
as far as it is to just say, Okay, he's
not doing anything, get over it, Like I don't know
how that feels, and like how that keeps showing up,
I can't really speak to that. I'm sure it still
shows up even if he's not giving her.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Reasons because there was a breach of trust. Yeah, a
breach of you know, that's that's not that's not a
great feeling, right right, But again it's I just go
back to try and stay as present as possible, focus
on the because then you're just stealing your own joy
in the moment.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Yeah, I mean, and that's the thing, like life is
too short, these kids are growing up, you know, to
just sit there and dwell on those things for too long. Yeah,
there's a way to focus on the now and the positive.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
My therapist was telling me something. It kind of relates
to this in a way where you know there could
be a fire, right, So this emotional affair is the fire.
Sometimes the ashes from a fire are soil for wildflowers
to grow in, right, so like the soil of the
from the ashes are there. But yet, now you know,
(37:14):
nine years post you're having a beautiful life and everything
is great and the kids, the career, everything, you have
all these beautiful wildflowers. It's okay that sometimes the soil
can come up, right, that's just natural because that's what
the weeds and the flowers grew up in.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Yeah. I like that.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
So, yeah, just it's okay that you feel that, like
that's a normal thing. But in that moment, just remember
all the flowers that have bloomed since then. Yeah, I
love that.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
It's a good one.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
It's an Amy one for you, like she's a good one.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Thanks Amy.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
All right, well God willing see you next week.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Bye.
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Jana Kramer
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