November 20, 2024 • 20 mins
In this episode of Wrestle Chat Podcast, The AntMan and Michael Glavin dive into a mix of wrestling, pop culture, and tech hiccups. They start off by recapping the streaming chaos during the Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson fight on Netflix, discussing how technical issues could impact WWE and NFL streaming deals in the future. The duo also explores WWE's presence at UFC 306, the crossover of Triple H and Stephanie McMahon with pop culture figures like Elon Musk, and the growing integration of wrestling with mainstream entertainment. Key topics include: WWE's big moves to Netflix and the involvement of stars like Travis Scott. The surprise signing of the Motor City Machine Guns to WWE and their immediate impact. Speculation on The Rock's potential return at Survivor Series and his future in WWE amidst his recent box office struggles. Plus, hear the hosts' thoughts on Survivor Series predictions, the legacy of Paul Heyman, and whether The Rock is set to electrify fans once again. It's a packed episode filled with wrestling insights, humorous banter, and hot takes on the state of sports entertainment today! Question of the Week: Will The Rock return at Survivor Series? Let us know your thoughts before next week's breakdown of the Survivor Series card! Follow the show on Instagram: ➡️ https://www.Instagram.com/WrestleChatPodcast Follow The AntMan: ➡️ https://www.Instagram.com/TheAntMan.co
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
You know, I was just noticing, is that your room
is smacked down and mine is the bloodline or raw?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I guess raw and smack down here. I didn't even
think about.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
That until we started talking. Welcome back to the wrestle
Chat podcast. I'm mean, yeah, man, he's Michael Glavin.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
And how many times did you have to.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Restart Netflix while watching the Jake Paul or attempting to
watch the Jake Paul Mike Tyson fight.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I never restarted it because honestly, I was lazy and
I didn't want to mess with it, so I just
sat there and watched The Spinning Wheel of Death until
it came back on. I never had to wait too long.
I think the most I did at one point was
like twenty thirty seconds. Yeah, that was interesting.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
There were several times I had to reset because it
went to a screen that said there's been an error.
Oh wow, and you had suck get out of it,
come back in, And man, I'm I don't often stay
up till midnight anymore, just in that part of my
life at the moment, and I'm really sad that I did.
(01:09):
After watching it, I'm like, man, I stayed up for this.
I will say the match before the love or semi
main It was just they build it as a semi
main event, which that to be honest, I mean, other
than the names, that was the main event.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah, because they it was so good.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Did you notice the song that the first I don't
remember their names, but the first girl walked out to.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
No I didn't.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
You'll you'll know this from from church and worship times
Awake my Soul. Oh yeah, maybe I did catch that
she walked out to, which pretty I thought it was
pretty cool, not not really a normal walkout song. And
when I heard it start, I was like, do we
have I thought we had something else on Siri, you know,
hang on Siria, I don't need you to do anything.
I thought maybe Siri heard something and decided to start playing. Yeah,
(01:57):
maybe my daughter started.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Somebody didn't know. I was like, oh, that's her walkout music.
That's pretty interesting, pretty cool. That was on Friday.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Saturday was UFC three oh six, and uh, I know
this is not new, but it was interesting, maybe more
so who they were hanging out with and where they
were sitting, not just that they were there, but Triple
H and Stephanie. I'm taking pictures with the president or
future president Dan Bongino with Elon Musk.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
What do you think of that?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I don't know that we should have that many of
our famous people in the same place at the same time.
Hollywood needs, you know, like their uh their their their
uh what do they call that process of government or
something like that, Like, we can't we can't lose that
many celebrities at one time. It'll you know, we already
have that three rule where they have to die in threes.
(02:54):
But man, you know, it reminds me of It reminds
me of the old Kiefer Sutherland show on TV Designated Survivor.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Who was hanging back at home across town making.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Sure she stays safe in case we lose too many
celebrities somewhere else. Beyonce is the designated survivor this time around.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
So yikes, yikes, the uh I don't know it's supposed
to be about wrestling. I don't we haven't even gotten
to wrestling. How far are we into this? We're like, yeah,
we're like almost five minutes into a haven't talked wrestling
yet kind of are here with Triple H is Steph.
But uh, think about what might happen with with Triple
(03:37):
H Triple H STEPH. But w w E and Elon
Musk if he decides to get in on that, where
is that going to go.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
To Mars?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
The first that the first wrestling match on Mars.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Absolutely thought first match in Space has.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
To cutting a promo from Mars at least.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Backing up just a second talking about what we were
about Netflix before there's WWE, there's NFL. I would imagine
that they're going to get all this crap worked out
before the NFL.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yes, so it's great for us, Yes.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
I mean the reality is there was probably nothing wrong
with the signal they were pumping out. It's just a
hosting and bandwidth issue. So and so, you know they've
they've now seen you know what the bigger numbers are,
where the weaknesses are. It might be as something as
simple as upgrading to the next tier and their subscription
to whoever's hosting or pumping out their video. But you know,
(04:36):
people freaked out about it. Oh my gosh, what's this
mean for NFL and WWE. It's Netflix. If they have
five billion dollars just to throw at WWE, I'm sure
they can fix a streaming issue in time.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
You don't know that's true, and I think that that's
what most people thought. It's like, we've streamed on Prime.
It's been fine, We've we've streamed, but we haven't. I
guess it's the number of people watching would be the
biggest deal of the bandwidth of it. And if that, man,
I mean, it was funny. I think I'm trying to
remember who it was that was showing it. They had
their phone up on the jumbo tron and currently watching that.
(05:13):
Someone had it circled and it was six point six
million people were watching the bootleg stream from some rappers
Instagram Live. And so you think about how many people
are watching actually on Netflix or trying to, and then
how many people are watching like that. I did for
a little bit when I couldn't get Netflix to go
back up, I was watching a bootleg version of it.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
How dare you? How dare you? Two and fifty thousand dollars,
thirteen years in jail.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
If I'm staying up till midnight, I'm finding a way
to watch this and nothing else. For the intros, basically
the best part, absolutely absolutely so. Triple H steph UFC.
We've got you know those two focused. It seems this week,
and it was interesting. Right after that fight, you started
seeing all the promos, the new Raw logo for one
(06:00):
Raw moves over to Netflix. You see the advertisement start.
You hear that Travis Scott is going to be the
one doing the intro for it and getting the hardcore
title evidently at a concert from H.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
So it was interesting.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
They're smart they piggyback on something massive like Tyson Fight
to go, hey, we're next, and it's hopefully going to
be better when it streams.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
You know, it's interesting you bring up the Travis Scott thing.
I think with the amount of celebrities we've seen in
play over the last year, I want to make sure
that us and whoever is watching this doesn't go numb
to the fact that you had a professional wrestler show
(06:41):
up at a concert, just a concert, cut a minor
promo on stage about you know, Raw moving to Netflix
and stuff like that. If this would have been ten
years ago, all these people would have been like, who
is this and why are they he absolutely you know
(07:02):
what I'm saying, and the sheer magnitude that you know,
Triple H and Stephanie are sitting at UFC now I
understand they're the same company, but still, you know, you
have people like uh uh, Metro doing stuff for bad Blood,
you have a Metro boom, and you have you have
(07:23):
Triple H showing up at a Travis Scott concert. Like
the crossover is incredible and it truly is the best
time to be a professional wrestling fan, and it is
on fire. I did not want us to brush past
that moment. I had to say a point at a.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Time didn't even didn't even think about that, And that's
such a great point because so many times it's funny.
I feel like, just age wise, I'm on, I'm on.
Nothing's ever been right now. There's been a few things
right down the middle for me, but it feels like
most of the time the WWU is picking songs that
were old to use for ac DC or somebody doing
intros for for shows or now in some instances we're
(08:03):
going to people like I know who, I don't know
who Metro is, I know who Travis Scott is. Couldn't
tell you one song though, but I think the best
the best time for me, I don't know if it
was for you, was like when Lincoln Park was doing
stuff or not Lincoln Park, but LIMP Biscuit was doing
stuff during during the Attitude era.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
That was that was the best in the music, at
least for me.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
And hopefully these new fans are appreciating what they're getting
with having their their artists. I say new fans, it's
probably fans now that just know that music, and I
just don't kind of age myself out on that, but
I do love that as a big deal for them
to know who h is when he walks out on stage.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Just massive we've got.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
This has happened a couple of weeks ago, but we
haven't had a chance to talk about it. MotorCity Machine Guns.
These are guys who were staples in TNAH and then
Impact and then TNA again, both as a tag team
and as singles. Alex Shelley had been a TNA champ
like thirty seven times or something.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
It's not that many, but it's a lot.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
And here they I mean, I thought that they were
kind of getting close to just hanging things up. You know,
they were going to be TNA lifers and you know,
kind of kind of doing I'm trying to like something
like I was gonna say what Edge was doing, but
Edge was doing in WWE and kind of is now
over an ae W where he does, you know, a
few shows a year and that's about it. I thought
(09:23):
that's what these guys would do with TNA, And here
they are jumping over getting signed to WWE do their
first match and qualify for a title match, their second
match is the title match, and.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
They win them.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
I don't want that to just speaking of stuff just
going by. I didn't want that to get too far
off to go. Do do most people know who Motor
City Machine Guns are?
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Uh? If you're asking me, my answers no, Probably because
I know the individual names. I've I've I've heard the
you know here and there, the name of the tag team.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
But sure, yeah, But.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I think this is a class if I overanalyze this.
I think this is the classic case of behind the
curtain negatively influencing the front of the curtain. And what
I mean by that is, you have two guys that
are staples of the wrestling industry. Everybody knows who Chris
(10:23):
Saban is, everybody knows who Alex Shelley is, and I'm
sure they have a lot of respect and a lot
of admiration within the wrestling community. And I think what
happened is w W went ah Man, we bagged Motor
City Machine Guns. Let's push them to the moon. And
it's because of that respect and that admiration from the
(10:44):
community of behind the scenes of wrestling. But then when
they step out in front of the led wall. You know,
I'm sitting here going, I like them, they look cool,
like they they work well together. But why should I care?
And after one or two weeks of vignettes, one match
(11:06):
and then the second match they win the tag straps,
Like you said, why am I supposed to care? And
why is this cool? And and so I think the
intent was good, but even to do just a couple
weeks of actual vignettes like we're MotorCity machine Guns. We've
been here, we've been there, We've done all this stuff,
like tell us the story. And I feel like this
(11:28):
is the first time in the post Vince McMahon era
that we had something and we dropped it because you
have somebody like me. I'm still pretty vested in wrestling.
I mean, a lot of my X feed is wrestling.
I you know, my algorithm pulls in a lot of
information about professional wrestling, And I'm sitting here going, so
(11:52):
what does that mean to the average.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Fan, right exactly.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
And so I know that these guys are awesome. I'm
not dogging on them at all, but in my opinion,
there was a great story to be told here about
these guys MotorCity machine Guns conquering the last frontier for them,
and we just didn't get it.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Great call, you know, I thought I watched one of
those I'm trying to think of where I saw it,
maybe on X where it's behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
They were following, following them through.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Going to the first show that they were going to
be at, and they're walking in the back and uh,
Sammy z Ain sees them.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
It was like, guys, how are you what's going on?
What are y'all doing here?
Speaker 1 (12:32):
And they're like, we signed, like you sign something like
with us? Yeah, oh that's so awesome. I'm on he
was on the phone. He's like, let me finish this
call and I'll come find you. But I thought that
they're coming. They're wrestling tonight and Sammy z Ain doesn't
know that they're on the card that that night and
it's the match before they're the tag champs. I'm just bizarre,
(12:56):
how I mean, I know all the stuff behind the
scenes is just so fluid and and moves so quick
so much or we hear about that anyway, I say,
I know, I don't know. I'm not there, but we
hear about that often. But to see how real that was.
These are guys who are friends, they're not They don't
get to hang out a lot because they're on different
shows and what have you. Now now they get to
but uh, not knowing that they're even signed to the company.
(13:19):
There's been promos playing a couple of weeks ahead of time,
but how much how much does Sammy's Ain watched the
promos of new people?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Well? No, And that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
It's like, you know, when you and I show up
to work at our respective jobs, we're not staying in
tune with the X feed about our jobs when we're
not there. No way, you know, guys guys like Sammy's
Ain are just showing up to the arena like, all right,
what's what's going on at work today?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Worried about Sammy's Ain? Absolutely absolutely there is. Uh, there's
a couple of things. One hit before we finish up here.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
One wise man's phones got disconnected, I mean did they?
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Has he not been paying a little bit? And he's
not paying his bills or what's going on here?
Speaker 3 (13:56):
You know, I don't know. They're they're definitely shrouded this
and a lot of mistray And I to be honest
with you, I'm going to evade your question a little
bit because I don't really, I don't know. But one
thing that I do enjoy is that Paul Hayman is
yet again, like you know, Paul Haman, a manager, is
(14:20):
the center of a storyline, you know, again for a moment.
And I love that because Paul deserves it. Paul's you know,
I don't know him, but you know, speaking of my
fandom and him on screen and everything, awesome person, character,
whatever you want to call it. And so the fact
that we're focusing on Paul Hayman and and the fact
that we're teasing him and missing him and all these
(14:42):
types of things, I love that because it expands the
story beyond just wrestlers. And I think that's what you know,
you know, is the Salt Bay to make good stuff happen.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
You know, that's true, and and and it also just
leaves so much intrigue because you just assume that when
you know, when of course, Roman takes a little time
off and you leave Paul behind to deal with Solo,
and then he leaves Solo, and Solo you know, lets
(15:14):
him out not so graciously.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Uh he asked to leave, you know, and takes off
and you don't see.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Him for so long, you just assume that when that
when Roman does come back, and he even has alluded
to he's looked over to where Paul would normally stand
as he's going into the ring, him not being there,
but alluding to like, I'm missing my man. And then
he then he calls him, but not only does he
not answer, the phone's disconnected.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
And that's just how it ends.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Wow, and we here we are, I mean this Saturday,
we're we're a week away from Survivor series and so
going into that is you know, it is is the
wise Man going to be there? And if he is,
is he going to be with Roman? That's what That's
a big question that I have. Speaking of VIB series,
I said that, you know, it's a week from Saturday.
It's always the Saturday after Thanksgiving. We still don't have
(16:05):
finality on or it doesn't feel final to what we
have in a lot of matches, and one being are
we going to see the Return of the Rock. Just
your gut right, now, what do you think I would think?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
So you know, I will echo what many people said
on the internet, which is his new movie, Red One
is not performing well. He needs a w so he's
he's gonna he's gonna show up to where he knows
he can't miss.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Is he showing up as Sanna? Maybe maybe could be,
but just.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
For context for those who would like to know how
badly that movie is doing. That movie had a budget
of an estimated two hundred and fifty million dollars, with
another one hundred million allotted for advertising and marketing. It's
opening weekend, it did thirty two million.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Okay, well, so here's the deal.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
You kind of assume that during this time of the year,
because it is a Christmas Red One is the code
name with the Rock or Dwayne Johnson being the bodyguard
for Santa, and it's a little different Santa, Pretty Jack Santa.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
And who is it?
Speaker 3 (17:15):
JK Simmons.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
JK Simmons. Okay, yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
They're even in one of the previews it shows him
warming up on like I don't know, like two hundred
and fifty pounds nuns press or something like that, you know.
But watching the preview, I thought, oh, this could be fun,
and I thought it was I said, hey, do you
want to ask my wife should we go see this
Sunday or Saturday or.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Sunday this last week?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
And she watched the preview and she goes, yeah, I'm
not interested. And Grace, our youngest ten year old, she's
not gonna care about this. I think that's a big
deal because this time of the year is all about
movies that you do that you do take the family too.
You get in that, you get the spirit of the holidays,
whether it be serious, whether it be funny. At least
it's a family movie, and to her it did not
(17:58):
feel like a family movie.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Very interesting.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I could be a big reason for that.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Yeah, that's a that's a great point that I think.
The most interesting thing is I have nothing against Dwayne
I love him on screen, I love him and Rustling.
I have no complaints. But The Math Maths and his
last several movies have not necessarily done well yet just
(18:30):
like everything about him, and this is kind of off.
I apologize, but but like it's his image is just
always squeaky clean. I don't know who he pays. I
don't know how he does it, but like he's regarded
as one of the best movie stars in the world,
and I'm like, where's the money, where's the money to
(18:51):
prove it?
Speaker 1 (18:52):
And the movie that's coming out next week?
Speaker 3 (18:57):
I exactly, exactly exactly. But all that to say, all
that to say I do getting back to the original question,
I do think Dwayne's going to show back up. I
think probably what we'll get, you know, Survivor Series is
one of the Big four. I think we might get
a little something and he'll be sprinkled throughout the holidays
(19:19):
and then I don't know, he might go ahead and
stick through now through Mania maybe yeah, you know, periodically.
So I guess we'll have to wait and see. But
I would say if he's going to show anytime soon,
probably before the end of the year, Survivor Series would
probably be the place to do it.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
I would say so too.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
And then just before Raw moves over to Netflix, I
would think that they're pulling out all the guns. Anybody
who has a pair of boots that has any name
whatsoever is going to show up at Raw for Netflix.
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Let's leave that as the question for this week.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Do you think the Rock is coming back at Survivor
Series one week from Saturday, and then here on this
show next week before Survivor Series, will kind of break
down the matches to give our predictions and ask you
is to chime into.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
So thank got a little do it for this week.
I can always good to see you, but.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Good to see you too. Thanks for having me
Speaker 1 (20:07):
H
You know, I was just noticing, is that your room
is smacked down and mine is the bloodline or raw?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I guess raw and smack down here. I didn't even
think about.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
That until we started talking. Welcome back to the wrestle
Chat podcast. I'm mean, yeah, man, he's Michael Glavin.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
And how many times did you have to.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Restart Netflix while watching the Jake Paul or attempting to
watch the Jake Paul Mike Tyson fight.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I never restarted it because honestly, I was lazy and
I didn't want to mess with it, so I just
sat there and watched The Spinning Wheel of Death until
it came back on. I never had to wait too long.
I think the most I did at one point was
like twenty thirty seconds. Yeah, that was interesting.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
There were several times I had to reset because it
went to a screen that said there's been an error.
Oh wow, and you had suck get out of it,
come back in, And man, I'm I don't often stay
up till midnight anymore, just in that part of my
life at the moment, and I'm really sad that I did.
(01:09):
After watching it, I'm like, man, I stayed up for this.
I will say the match before the love or semi
main It was just they build it as a semi
main event, which that to be honest, I mean, other
than the names, that was the main event.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah, because they it was so good.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Did you notice the song that the first I don't
remember their names, but the first girl walked out to.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
No I didn't.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
You'll you'll know this from from church and worship times
Awake my Soul. Oh yeah, maybe I did catch that
she walked out to, which pretty I thought it was
pretty cool, not not really a normal walkout song. And
when I heard it start, I was like, do we
have I thought we had something else on Siri, you know,
hang on Siria, I don't need you to do anything.
I thought maybe Siri heard something and decided to start playing. Yeah,
(01:57):
maybe my daughter started.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Somebody didn't know. I was like, oh, that's her walkout music.
That's pretty interesting, pretty cool. That was on Friday.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Saturday was UFC three oh six, and uh, I know
this is not new, but it was interesting, maybe more
so who they were hanging out with and where they
were sitting, not just that they were there, but Triple
H and Stephanie. I'm taking pictures with the president or
future president Dan Bongino with Elon Musk.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
What do you think of that?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I don't know that we should have that many of
our famous people in the same place at the same time.
Hollywood needs, you know, like their uh their their their
uh what do they call that process of government or
something like that, Like, we can't we can't lose that
many celebrities at one time. It'll you know, we already
have that three rule where they have to die in threes.
(02:54):
But man, you know, it reminds me of It reminds
me of the old Kiefer Sutherland show on TV Designated Survivor.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Who was hanging back at home across town making.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Sure she stays safe in case we lose too many
celebrities somewhere else. Beyonce is the designated survivor this time around.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
So yikes, yikes, the uh I don't know it's supposed
to be about wrestling. I don't we haven't even gotten
to wrestling. How far are we into this? We're like, yeah,
we're like almost five minutes into a haven't talked wrestling
yet kind of are here with Triple H is Steph.
But uh, think about what might happen with with Triple
(03:37):
H Triple H STEPH. But w w E and Elon
Musk if he decides to get in on that, where
is that going to go.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
To Mars?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
The first that the first wrestling match on Mars.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Absolutely thought first match in Space has.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
To cutting a promo from Mars at least.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Backing up just a second talking about what we were
about Netflix before there's WWE, there's NFL. I would imagine
that they're going to get all this crap worked out
before the NFL.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yes, so it's great for us, Yes.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
I mean the reality is there was probably nothing wrong
with the signal they were pumping out. It's just a
hosting and bandwidth issue. So and so, you know they've
they've now seen you know what the bigger numbers are,
where the weaknesses are. It might be as something as
simple as upgrading to the next tier and their subscription
to whoever's hosting or pumping out their video. But you know,
(04:36):
people freaked out about it. Oh my gosh, what's this
mean for NFL and WWE. It's Netflix. If they have
five billion dollars just to throw at WWE, I'm sure
they can fix a streaming issue in time.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
You don't know that's true, and I think that that's
what most people thought. It's like, we've streamed on Prime.
It's been fine, We've we've streamed, but we haven't. I
guess it's the number of people watching would be the
biggest deal of the bandwidth of it. And if that, man,
I mean, it was funny. I think I'm trying to
remember who it was that was showing it. They had
their phone up on the jumbo tron and currently watching that.
(05:13):
Someone had it circled and it was six point six
million people were watching the bootleg stream from some rappers
Instagram Live. And so you think about how many people
are watching actually on Netflix or trying to, and then
how many people are watching like that. I did for
a little bit when I couldn't get Netflix to go
back up, I was watching a bootleg version of it.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
How dare you? How dare you? Two and fifty thousand dollars,
thirteen years in jail.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
If I'm staying up till midnight, I'm finding a way
to watch this and nothing else. For the intros, basically
the best part, absolutely absolutely so. Triple H steph UFC.
We've got you know those two focused. It seems this week,
and it was interesting. Right after that fight, you started
seeing all the promos, the new Raw logo for one
(06:00):
Raw moves over to Netflix. You see the advertisement start.
You hear that Travis Scott is going to be the
one doing the intro for it and getting the hardcore
title evidently at a concert from H.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
So it was interesting.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
They're smart they piggyback on something massive like Tyson Fight
to go, hey, we're next, and it's hopefully going to
be better when it streams.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
You know, it's interesting you bring up the Travis Scott thing.
I think with the amount of celebrities we've seen in
play over the last year, I want to make sure
that us and whoever is watching this doesn't go numb
to the fact that you had a professional wrestler show
(06:41):
up at a concert, just a concert, cut a minor
promo on stage about you know, Raw moving to Netflix
and stuff like that. If this would have been ten
years ago, all these people would have been like, who
is this and why are they he absolutely you know
(07:02):
what I'm saying, and the sheer magnitude that you know,
Triple H and Stephanie are sitting at UFC now I
understand they're the same company, but still, you know, you
have people like uh uh, Metro doing stuff for bad Blood,
you have a Metro boom, and you have you have
(07:23):
Triple H showing up at a Travis Scott concert. Like
the crossover is incredible and it truly is the best
time to be a professional wrestling fan, and it is
on fire. I did not want us to brush past
that moment. I had to say a point at a.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Time didn't even didn't even think about that, And that's
such a great point because so many times it's funny.
I feel like, just age wise, I'm on, I'm on.
Nothing's ever been right now. There's been a few things
right down the middle for me, but it feels like
most of the time the WWU is picking songs that
were old to use for ac DC or somebody doing
intros for for shows or now in some instances we're
(08:03):
going to people like I know who, I don't know
who Metro is, I know who Travis Scott is. Couldn't
tell you one song though, but I think the best
the best time for me, I don't know if it
was for you, was like when Lincoln Park was doing
stuff or not Lincoln Park, but LIMP Biscuit was doing
stuff during during the Attitude era.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
That was that was the best in the music, at
least for me.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
And hopefully these new fans are appreciating what they're getting
with having their their artists. I say new fans, it's
probably fans now that just know that music, and I
just don't kind of age myself out on that, but
I do love that as a big deal for them
to know who h is when he walks out on stage.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Just massive we've got.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
This has happened a couple of weeks ago, but we
haven't had a chance to talk about it. MotorCity Machine Guns.
These are guys who were staples in TNAH and then
Impact and then TNA again, both as a tag team
and as singles. Alex Shelley had been a TNA champ
like thirty seven times or something.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
It's not that many, but it's a lot.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
And here they I mean, I thought that they were
kind of getting close to just hanging things up. You know,
they were going to be TNA lifers and you know,
kind of kind of doing I'm trying to like something
like I was gonna say what Edge was doing, but
Edge was doing in WWE and kind of is now
over an ae W where he does, you know, a
few shows a year and that's about it. I thought
(09:23):
that's what these guys would do with TNA, And here
they are jumping over getting signed to WWE do their
first match and qualify for a title match, their second
match is the title match, and.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
They win them.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
I don't want that to just speaking of stuff just
going by. I didn't want that to get too far
off to go. Do do most people know who Motor
City Machine Guns are?
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Uh? If you're asking me, my answers no, Probably because
I know the individual names. I've I've I've heard the
you know here and there, the name of the tag team.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
But sure, yeah, But.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I think this is a class if I overanalyze this.
I think this is the classic case of behind the
curtain negatively influencing the front of the curtain. And what
I mean by that is, you have two guys that
are staples of the wrestling industry. Everybody knows who Chris
(10:23):
Saban is, everybody knows who Alex Shelley is, and I'm
sure they have a lot of respect and a lot
of admiration within the wrestling community. And I think what
happened is w W went ah Man, we bagged Motor
City Machine Guns. Let's push them to the moon. And
it's because of that respect and that admiration from the
(10:44):
community of behind the scenes of wrestling. But then when
they step out in front of the led wall. You know,
I'm sitting here going, I like them, they look cool,
like they they work well together. But why should I care?
And after one or two weeks of vignettes, one match
(11:06):
and then the second match they win the tag straps,
Like you said, why am I supposed to care? And
why is this cool? And and so I think the
intent was good, but even to do just a couple
weeks of actual vignettes like we're MotorCity machine Guns. We've
been here, we've been there, We've done all this stuff,
like tell us the story. And I feel like this
(11:28):
is the first time in the post Vince McMahon era
that we had something and we dropped it because you
have somebody like me. I'm still pretty vested in wrestling.
I mean, a lot of my X feed is wrestling.
I you know, my algorithm pulls in a lot of
information about professional wrestling, And I'm sitting here going, so
(11:52):
what does that mean to the average.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Fan, right exactly.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
And so I know that these guys are awesome. I'm
not dogging on them at all, but in my opinion,
there was a great story to be told here about
these guys MotorCity machine Guns conquering the last frontier for them,
and we just didn't get it.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Great call, you know, I thought I watched one of
those I'm trying to think of where I saw it,
maybe on X where it's behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
They were following, following them through.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Going to the first show that they were going to
be at, and they're walking in the back and uh,
Sammy z Ain sees them.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
It was like, guys, how are you what's going on?
What are y'all doing here?
Speaker 1 (12:32):
And they're like, we signed, like you sign something like
with us? Yeah, oh that's so awesome. I'm on he
was on the phone. He's like, let me finish this
call and I'll come find you. But I thought that
they're coming. They're wrestling tonight and Sammy z Ain doesn't
know that they're on the card that that night and
it's the match before they're the tag champs. I'm just bizarre,
(12:56):
how I mean, I know all the stuff behind the
scenes is just so fluid and and moves so quick
so much or we hear about that anyway, I say,
I know, I don't know. I'm not there, but we
hear about that often. But to see how real that was.
These are guys who are friends, they're not They don't
get to hang out a lot because they're on different
shows and what have you. Now now they get to
but uh, not knowing that they're even signed to the company.
(13:19):
There's been promos playing a couple of weeks ahead of time,
but how much how much does Sammy's Ain watched the
promos of new people?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Well? No, And that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
It's like, you know, when you and I show up
to work at our respective jobs, we're not staying in
tune with the X feed about our jobs when we're
not there. No way, you know, guys guys like Sammy's
Ain are just showing up to the arena like, all right,
what's what's going on at work today?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Worried about Sammy's Ain? Absolutely absolutely there is. Uh, there's
a couple of things. One hit before we finish up here.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
One wise man's phones got disconnected, I mean did they?
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Has he not been paying a little bit? And he's
not paying his bills or what's going on here?
Speaker 3 (13:56):
You know, I don't know. They're they're definitely shrouded this
and a lot of mistray And I to be honest
with you, I'm going to evade your question a little
bit because I don't really, I don't know. But one
thing that I do enjoy is that Paul Hayman is
yet again, like you know, Paul Haman, a manager, is
(14:20):
the center of a storyline, you know, again for a moment.
And I love that because Paul deserves it. Paul's you know,
I don't know him, but you know, speaking of my
fandom and him on screen and everything, awesome person, character,
whatever you want to call it. And so the fact
that we're focusing on Paul Hayman and and the fact
that we're teasing him and missing him and all these
(14:42):
types of things, I love that because it expands the
story beyond just wrestlers. And I think that's what you know,
you know, is the Salt Bay to make good stuff happen.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
You know, that's true, and and and it also just
leaves so much intrigue because you just assume that when
you know, when of course, Roman takes a little time
off and you leave Paul behind to deal with Solo,
and then he leaves Solo, and Solo you know, lets
(15:14):
him out not so graciously.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Uh he asked to leave, you know, and takes off
and you don't see.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Him for so long, you just assume that when that
when Roman does come back, and he even has alluded
to he's looked over to where Paul would normally stand
as he's going into the ring, him not being there,
but alluding to like, I'm missing my man. And then
he then he calls him, but not only does he
not answer, the phone's disconnected.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
And that's just how it ends.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Wow, and we here we are, I mean this Saturday,
we're we're a week away from Survivor series and so
going into that is you know, it is is the
wise Man going to be there? And if he is,
is he going to be with Roman? That's what That's
a big question that I have. Speaking of VIB series,
I said that, you know, it's a week from Saturday.
It's always the Saturday after Thanksgiving. We still don't have
(16:05):
finality on or it doesn't feel final to what we
have in a lot of matches, and one being are
we going to see the Return of the Rock. Just
your gut right, now, what do you think I would think?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
So you know, I will echo what many people said
on the internet, which is his new movie, Red One
is not performing well. He needs a w so he's
he's gonna he's gonna show up to where he knows
he can't miss.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Is he showing up as Sanna? Maybe maybe could be,
but just.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
For context for those who would like to know how
badly that movie is doing. That movie had a budget
of an estimated two hundred and fifty million dollars, with
another one hundred million allotted for advertising and marketing. It's
opening weekend, it did thirty two million.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Okay, well, so here's the deal.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
You kind of assume that during this time of the year,
because it is a Christmas Red One is the code
name with the Rock or Dwayne Johnson being the bodyguard
for Santa, and it's a little different Santa, Pretty Jack Santa.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
And who is it?
Speaker 3 (17:15):
JK Simmons.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
JK Simmons. Okay, yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
They're even in one of the previews it shows him
warming up on like I don't know, like two hundred
and fifty pounds nuns press or something like that, you know.
But watching the preview, I thought, oh, this could be fun,
and I thought it was I said, hey, do you
want to ask my wife should we go see this
Sunday or Saturday or.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Sunday this last week?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
And she watched the preview and she goes, yeah, I'm
not interested. And Grace, our youngest ten year old, she's
not gonna care about this. I think that's a big
deal because this time of the year is all about
movies that you do that you do take the family too.
You get in that, you get the spirit of the holidays,
whether it be serious, whether it be funny. At least
it's a family movie, and to her it did not
(17:58):
feel like a family movie.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Very interesting.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I could be a big reason for that.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Yeah, that's a that's a great point that I think.
The most interesting thing is I have nothing against Dwayne
I love him on screen, I love him and Rustling.
I have no complaints. But The Math Maths and his
last several movies have not necessarily done well yet just
(18:30):
like everything about him, and this is kind of off.
I apologize, but but like it's his image is just
always squeaky clean. I don't know who he pays. I
don't know how he does it, but like he's regarded
as one of the best movie stars in the world,
and I'm like, where's the money, where's the money to
(18:51):
prove it?
Speaker 1 (18:52):
And the movie that's coming out next week?
Speaker 3 (18:57):
I exactly, exactly exactly. But all that to say, all
that to say I do getting back to the original question,
I do think Dwayne's going to show back up. I
think probably what we'll get, you know, Survivor Series is
one of the Big four. I think we might get
a little something and he'll be sprinkled throughout the holidays
(19:19):
and then I don't know, he might go ahead and
stick through now through Mania maybe yeah, you know, periodically.
So I guess we'll have to wait and see. But
I would say if he's going to show anytime soon,
probably before the end of the year, Survivor Series would
probably be the place to do it.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
I would say so too.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
And then just before Raw moves over to Netflix, I
would think that they're pulling out all the guns. Anybody
who has a pair of boots that has any name
whatsoever is going to show up at Raw for Netflix.
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Let's leave that as the question for this week.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Do you think the Rock is coming back at Survivor
Series one week from Saturday, and then here on this
show next week before Survivor Series, will kind of break
down the matches to give our predictions and ask you
is to chime into.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
So thank got a little do it for this week.
I can always good to see you, but.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Good to see you too. Thanks for having me
Speaker 1 (20:07):
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