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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On today's episode, we're talking about news including Netflix is
shocking apposition, potential acquisition of Warner Brothers.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Ooh hello, my name is Jason Cryptio.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
And I'm anti trust Rosie Night and.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Welcome back to next revision of the podcast, when we
dive deep the favorite shows, movies, comics of pop culture
Company from my Heart, where we're bringing you three episodes
a week.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
It's news, It's news.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
In today's episode, we're catching up on the biggest geek
news of the week, including.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Smallest board of fantastic new trailers.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Whether you like horror, fantasy, or slashes, we got everything
for you. We've also got some crazy box office news
coming out of Disney and yeah, that insane Warner Brothers
Netflix news.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
First up, we have trailers.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
There is a new trailer for twenty eight years later
Bone Temple, which oh looks Gary. Are you ready to
enter the Bone Temple?
Speaker 5 (01:17):
I tell you I am. I'm very excited about it.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Twenty eight years Later was you know, I think one
of the most interesting, one of my favorite movies certainly
of last year. A Little I was a little shockingly divisive,
but the sequel, which was teased in the final two
minutes of that film has the new trailer and your thoughts.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Rosie looks great.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
I love Nia DaCosta as a director. I think it's
going to be really interesting to focus on the ray
Fiend's character and obviously those characters that we met at
the end, who are obviously we've talked about before, very
connected to like a dark era of British culture with
Jimmy Saville and everything. Something else that looks really cool
about this is kind of posing of what do they
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see when they kill? Like This is definitely going to
be a moralistic question of is what's Rap finds his
role in this as the doctor, what is his relationship
to Sampson going to be? How are we going to
find out about the inner workings of the zombie brain.
There is definitely like a VOLDEMORTE level of like machinations
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that people have been talking about a lot. But the
thing I'm really interested in is whether or not they
will do what Pluribus has been doing so well, which
is to go deeper and explore what it means to
be part of a hive mind or a zombie population
or the essentially victims of what has been If you
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gain sentience like a zombie genocide because everybody's been killing the.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Zombies to survive.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
I think there's a lot of really interesting stuff there,
and I think Raife has the juice to do it,
and I think his relationship with Sampson is going to
play a big part into that and our kind of
understanding of where humanity in, you know, the closed off
isle of the British Isles in this version still stands.
If you guys remember in the last movie, we saw
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that Samson has a zombie wife and she gives birth
on the train during that crazy action sequence, and it's he.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Now has a baby.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
So that is obviously going to tie in to what
we know here because it seems like the baby is
born uninfected. Yeah, we'll see some really cool themes I
think continue to be explored of this kind of notion
of what it is to be a child in this
world and.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Where the future of this world is headed.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
We're going to see that through the story of the
main kid we met last time, but I think we'll
also see like a contemporary analogous version of that with
what it means for Samson.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
To raise that child.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
I just think, like you said, interesting, are you going
to come out of this feeling joyful about the state
the world. No, these movies are bleak and depressing, but
they are interesting and weird, and no one is doing
anything like it.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
And the fact that they are able to get this movie.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Out straight away because they filmed it back to back
with two different directors, I think is very clever. And yeah,
I'm excited for that one. Looks amazing, can't wait. Scary, scary, scary.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Next up, we have a trailer, the final official trailer
for a Night of the Seven Kingdoms. Wow, the Game
of Thrones spin off that is an adaptation of the
beloved Duncan Egg novellas. And it looks great and it's
clearly the tone is going to be something new for
this world.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
And I thought this was really wonderful.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
I love it. I was reading.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
The Duncan ag novellas recently prepping for this incredible show.
I can't wait for it. I was blown away by
how like delightfully cozy and fun the books are. I
think it is going to be a totally different feel,
but I also I think that it's gonna be kind
of trailblazing in the way that the original Game of
Phone series is because outside of Lord of the Rings,
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we have not really gotten a more kind of laxid
days ocal, feudal.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Kind of pastoral era of.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Cozy fantasy like this, where you get an adventure that
isn't your classic Lobe Wrph and car but is actually
something entirely different. And I think the trailer puts that across.
I'm so excited. I love the casting in this show.
I am excited to hear you and Gretta talk about it.
I can't wait for the show and I can't believe
it comes out so soon in January, which is like,
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will you.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Better get ready, babies?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Read this?
Speaker 5 (05:42):
This is like five weeks.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Yes, read a Night of the Seven Kingdom's edition of
the Duncan Ignoses that you can get right now on
your library app or in your local bookstore.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
They are wonderful. You will be prepared.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
You can easily read it very short before you get
into January, and we will obviously be going hard on
that coverage. But yeah, what a trailer. I mean, this
was given me goosebumps. This is the kind of shit
I think we need. It's different, it's unique, it looks cool,
telling a story we haven't seen before, and obviously forget HBO.
It has that Game of Thrones ip, so hopefully people
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are going to tune in. But yeah, this is probably
my most anticipated show of next year right now. This
is the one I can't wait to get my eyes on.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
And finally, the trailer for the long awaited, long awaited
sequel to the antime marriage horror action comedy feature Ready
or Not, which was about el Ron's niece discovering that
she's being married off to various devil cults. Ready or
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Not Too is coming out soon, and the new trailer
is here and it it apparently picks up literally a
second ass second off this second after the first Ready
or Not ended Ready or Not, we haven't I don't
think we've ever talked about that movie.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
But a super super fun film.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Total Breakout Movie came out in twenty nineteen, slightly predated
xtray vision Samorrow weaving breakout.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Hit for her.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
It brought back you know Seth from the OC, who
is now in his own fucking Netflix show.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
They this is by Radio Silence, the guys who would
go on to reboot Scream.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
They have a horror voice and a horror mindset that
is really unique, really fun. If you didn't see their
vampire kidnap movie Abigail. It was incredible. Ready on very
battle Royale, Battle Royale, imagine this, this is.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
That's their tone, very eat the.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Rich, post parasite, but before the twenty twenty riots. It's
very much like rich people are demonic and they're in
these cults and that's how they get all their money,
and you fight them, and she ends up marrying into
the family, has to fight them, survives and at the
end she is, as we learn from this trailer, essentially
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swept up into a John Wick esque world where there
are multiple families who have to do these demonic cult
kind of rituals. They want to do it again with
her because she survived, but this time to make her
do it, they're going to bring in her sister, played
by none other than at Man's daughter, Cassie Lang, who
we love. It was also in Abigail, who was in
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Free Key, who was in The Good Old.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
What was the most recent movie that she was in
that everybody really loved.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
A'm Man in The Worst Quantumnia Everyone's favorite. But yes,
we love the actress. She is really brilliant and this
is going to be a super fun movie. I can't
wait to see this. I can't wait to see these
to kill off a bunch of people. We got Sarah
Michelle Geller talking about comebacks just before Buffy also has
Sean Hatosi in it, who's from the faculty, who's had
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a huge come up because of the pit So this
is going to be all those kind of character actors
in the craziest, glorious to eat the rich stuff you
can imagine.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I can't wait for this. Looks bagging up next.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
It's one of the best times ever in the history
of the world to be a furry and Zoosympia two
is in theaters and is raking in the furry, the plush, wonderful,
warm to the touch, dollars to the tune of six
hundred and twenty million in its first week.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Okay, so this is a aside from the furry of
it all, which is obviously a big point because this
was a this was like for our generation, let's face it.
For our generation, it was Robin Hood, the Disney classic
from the seventies that ended up, you know, inspiring a
lot of furries. But Zootopia is the furry.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
It's the it's the furry movie.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Cat nap and I will say this is actually a
chance for me to talk about one of the few
things that I think has been positive for Disney.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
About Disney Plus, a lot of.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
People have talked about, oh, you know, is it diluting
the brand, blah blah blah. Well it has done for
sure that we have been able to prove is it
has made movies that in previously would have probably been
more successful from your VHS space. It has turned that
into Disney Plus, which means any movie that is on
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there can become the next biggest movie. Mona, Leelo and
Stitch which went from VHS success to Disney Plus success
to now Zutopia. These are movies that kids are able
to watch every single day. They do not need to
own them, their parents do not need to buy them.
They can just watch Zutopia a million times. They love
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that Shakira song from Zutopia. There's a reason they brought
Shakira back. You can go to Disneyland and you can
meet the cop animals from Zutopia. This is a real huge,
smash hit film that people adore. And Zootopia two has
come in and absolutely smashed wicked, smashed all these other
big things because these kids are the buying market. Wicked
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is still doing great. It made one hundred milli in.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Its second week, So don't worry. Wicked's still doing fine,
but six hundred and twenty million and is past way.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Cynthia, Arianna, don't be afraid. The movie is still doing
very well. Calm down, please stop crying.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Cry, don't cry, don't mean to scare you, don't get
matching tattoo.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
It's all okay, let's take a quick break.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Were back with more headlines, and we're back with honestly
the biggest news, craziest probably of the week and probably
of the year potentially in terms of media. It's something
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that we talked about a couple of years ago. We
talked about it a lot on the pick up lines
for the writers and actor strike and that was that
coming up very soon. There's not going to be you know,
six streamers, there's going to be two, and they're going
to be massive, and we're watching it happened before our eyes.
Netflix is in talks and apparently has had their It
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seems like they're they've had their offer basically the terms
of it accepted, and that is they're going to buy
Warner Brothers and Warner Brothers Movie Studios, which includes HBO
Max in an eighty two point seven billion dollar deal.
What is this, I would assume that includes d C
and the DC, I would say, I would go and
(12:31):
obviously this is they've They've said that they're going to
maintain a theater releases for Warner Brothers movies. Although they
one would expect that since Netflix has been the enemy
of movie theaters, the avowed stated enemy of movie theaters
for the entire time that they've been around, one would
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expect that they're going to try and put their finger
on the scale with regards to the.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Cadence and such.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
But they obviously huge news.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
They already said that they're gonna shorten windows between theatrical
and when they would be on Netflix for something like
a Batman, the Batman two or something, which the whole
thing is just blowing my mind because I want to say,
this is one of those classic we were right situations,
and hey, look man, people can talk about backseat critics,
they can talk about people on podcasts who talk about
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the business who aren't necessarily making these deals. But guess what, guys,
four years ago, when David Zaslav bought Warner Brothers for
half of this amount. Me and Jason told you he
bought it to strip it for parts and sell it,
and that is what he did. And it is honestly
shocking to me that he has managed to double his
business in that time. This is almost double what he
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paid for it. Unbelievable business of Koutremont.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
I was so say he succeeded, look I about him.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
But he succeeded.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
He doubled his money.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
And I think this is a great argument in the
ongoing conversation about whether or not what is profitable for
execs is good for audiences, because you could argue that
Warner Brothers has struggled throughout that time. It has had
some big hits. Obviously the James Gun of Us has
been very successful for them, but it has also.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Had some flops. It's also had some struggles.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
It's had some drama with getting rid of content that
already exists, like its animated content and animated movies, obviously
the cancelation of Batgirl, but the pushing forward of movies
like Alto Nights, a movie you never heard of because
it did not succeed, but that cost ninety million dollars
and was written by one of David Zaslov's close friends
in the Hamptons, with Robert de Niro in it. There
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has been a lot of controversy over his running of
the company, but ultimately capitalism wins and he won. What
does this mean for Warner Brothers? What does it mean
for Netflix? What does it mean for the DCU? This
is essentially unprecedented, so I think we don't really know
because as much as they want to expand into theatrical,
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they wanted to all this stuff that sounds good to
the shareholders right now, what this really means is Netflix
is about to have an unbeatable catalog if they choose
everything on there. Because the biggest critique of Netflix for
the last few years, aside from the corporate capitalism kind
of moralistic critiques, which are very fair and have been
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talked about often, is the fact that only five percent
of its catalog comes from before the nineteen nineties and
even less but comes from before the nineteen eighties.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
So obviously with TCM with HBO.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Max, they would be able to expand that out to
an exponential degree. And essentially, I do think if this
deal goes through, they will become the streamer. There is
no way Paramount Plus or anyone else can compete with
the Netflix that has all of Warner Brothers content. But
the HBO of it all is also why that may
not be able to go through because that brings in
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some issues with the antitrust laws because HBO is a
actual broadcast TV channel.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Still, it's still a linear channel.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Even if most people watch it via the apps, So
we're going to see. Also, this is not the deal
that Donald Trump wanted to go through. He wanted Paramount
and Larry Ellison wanted the Sky he wanted Skydance to
go through.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
So that's interesting.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Will that come up as an issue whatever happened, Guys,
we're living in unprecedented times. Best case scenario out of
this is that Netflix buys Warner Brothers, does what it's
done to the Egyptian and basically buys up a ton
of indie theaters that are struggling and that need help
and uses them as a space like the Egyptian where
they still have programming by American Cinematech. They still do
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great rep screenings, but when they need a premiere, they
go and do Netflix. They did it with the Paris
in New York. I understand that corporations owning things is
not ideal, but it would be amazing if this could
lead to more cinema presentations and more rep cinemas and
things that can appeal to both Netflix as a company
aka having a nice theater to do a premier in,
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but can also keep cinema going for an audience. Because
Warner Brothers is one hundred plus years of cinema history.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
So it's since day it's basically a day one.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
It's yeah, it's kind of crazy.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
I've been lucky enough to be on the lot a
lot of times, like what would that look like? Is
Netflix going to take over the Warner Brothers lot? Warner
Brothers makes a lot of TV for other people, like
Warner Brothers makes Abbert Elementary on their lot that is
then licensed to Disney and ABC and Hulu. So there's
lots of questions like that, the messiness of this deal.
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We will be excavating it for years, I think. But hey,
it looks like it's gonna happen. Will Warner Brothers still
be able to work with someone like Christopher Nolan in
this case?
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I mean that'll be a big question, And I think
kind of connected to that is the fate of TCM.
Where does TCM go in this? Does it stay with
Warner Brothers and go to Netflix, it go somewhere else?
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Do they make it its own streaming service? Like?
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Are they going to spin these off into Netflix, TCM, Netflix, HBO.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Like one thing situation.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
One thing that we saw was Zaslav at least was
was vulnerable to pressure by filmmakers who and part of
that point of pressure was concern about what would happen
to TCM. This is a couple of years ago when
drastic cuts were happening around TCM, and there's been some
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reporting to suggest it. I was gonna would would be
split from Warner Brothers and go to cable with Discovery,
which I think would be crazy, But you know, so
we will see, and we will will see if filmmakers
raise their voices, have any concerns about Jason deal.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
And I'm glad you brought that up, because actually they
dropped it. At the end of last night, Variety dropped
a report that just came that was about anonymous A
listers who are apparently already lobbying against the Netflix WDBD acquisition,
saying that they would hold a noose around the theatrical marketplace,
and I think the implication from the press is like
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a lot of people are like this sounds like Tom
Cruise is.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Involved, so maybe he can.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
It's a lot about theatrically importance of theatrical and it
would people are very very worried, including film producers, that
Netflix would deeply impact the theatrical window and the theatrical
release and the importance of.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Theatrical if this deal goes ahead.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
So hopefully the negotiations and the compromise will lead us
to a place where we really get something good out
of this.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
But it's a crazy story.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
I have to say, if you'd have given me money
to bet on this, Netflix would have been very, very
very low on my odds list.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
I did not see this one coming.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Well, what a crazy, crazy news drop. Of the next
week's episode of X ray Vision, we're diving into pluribis
episode six and it Welcome to Dary episode seven with
our interview with Chris Chalk, who plays Dick hallerin Can't
Wait for That.
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That's it for news. Thanks for listening.
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Bye.
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