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January 15, 2026 36 mins

President Trump proclaims America is economically great again!  Is that his perception or a reality?  Economist and YMS money wiz David Bahnsen will join us to break it down.

As both Iran and the United States threaten military action, a new study is out on how Americans feel about Iran, Venezuela, Greenland and more. National Correspondent RORY O’NEILL will have the story.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:22):
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A new way of talk, a new way of understanding
because we're in this together. This is your morning show
with Michael del Johnny. Welcome morning, and welcome to payday

(00:42):
for many Thursday, January fifteenth, of Our Lord, twenty twenty six.
That's good news. Bad news is I'll pay the bills
about tenth Central eleven Eastern today and that'll all be gone.
But we have a lot to understand together and make
sense of because after all, we're all in this together.
Thanks for waking up with your morning show on the Aaron,

(01:02):
streaming live on your iHeartRadio app. A crew of International
Space Station has returned splashed down West coast, not East coast.
We don't know which of the four astronauts are sick
or how sick. Maybe we'll get those details, but they
are home safely. The US has made its first sale
of Venezuelan oil, and the President is expected to meet
with Venezuelan opposition leader Maria Carina Muchado at the White

(01:27):
House later today. And looks like geez, I hate to
even bring this up. And it looks like the great
no stridental journal was right again. The New York Giants
are going to have John Harbaugh no one else as
their new leader. And David Boonnson, I think it was
last week, put out his new white paper, the saddest

(01:52):
part of the recent economic lunacy. We have that and
things to kick around. I just want to stage it
first by saying it was about we'll bring David on.
David Bonsen, economist, You probably see him on Fox Business.
We met when you wrote your book right about Work,

(02:15):
and there was just kind of a yeah, and we
were talking. There was just a discernment in my heart
that we were going to be going through some really
tough economic times and in a sea of voices and
in a world of information and so little understanding. We're
going to need somebody to guide us. And God led
me to you, and you have made the sacrifice of
being on the show. Nobody that comes on this show

(02:36):
is paid in any way. But I thank you for
being a north star for us. This is not a
wheelhouse of my strength, like foreign policy maybe, and so
we rely on you greatly. And so I wanted people
to know that. Number One, I encourage them to start
going to the Dividend Cafe weekly as I do as

(02:58):
a consumer of information. But let's start. The President says,
happy days are here again. There is the possibility that
there is trajectory that's going in the right direction. That
doesn't mean we've arrived by any stretch of the imagination.
There are some very concerning ideas that have been kicked around.
There's some concerning things that have been done, and then
there's some very encouraging things that could be done or

(03:21):
have been talked about being done. Let's go back big picture,
what is the state of our economy? Give us the
good side that is going in the right direction, and
give us the bad side in reality that's not there
yet or we're not even heading there yet. Help us
that are everyday people just trying to feed our families,

(03:43):
wish for a better future for our children, to understand
what's working and what's not.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Well.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
First of all, thank you for all the kind words,
and it's certainly been a blessing for me to do
this with you for what's almost been two years now,
I know, and as far as that that question about
the state of economy, my answer is very similar to
my outlook going forward for the economy, meaning the.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Next let's call it six to twelve.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Months, which is this ambiguity around push pull forces, the
fact that there are certain things that you can feel good.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
About and that you believe could get better.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
And certain things that I do not feel good about
believe could get worse. And so there's some economists that say, well,
my job in that circumstance is to have an opinion, to.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Go tell people what will happen in that ambiguity.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
And my view is that when one doesn't know, their
job is to say they don't know and to explain
the ambiguity.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
The sources of it.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
The positives are that we do have reasonably less regulated
situation with our finance sector and energies sector than we
did under the Biden administration. The most positive thing coming
by way a policy change is that in the Big

(05:09):
Beautiful Bill Act, they didn't lower any tax rates, but
they did give greater deductions to companies for capital expenditures,
for business investment, for research and development, and so that
should provide some marginal incentive for greater business activity, which

(05:31):
can lead to more jobs and wages. The negatives are
very very easy. There's always big negative which you and
I talked about at least fifty times on the show,
which is that our economy has a dramatic amount allocated
to the government.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
That the level of debt and the level.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Of spending is something that by definition mathematically comes out
of the private sector, where more product if things can happen.
And so if you have less of the productive stuff
and more of the unproductive stuff, that weighs on economic growth.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
David, which is but was this sack Which is why
we always look at debt to GDP right.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Both debt to GDP and spending VP because even if
the government was actually paying for its spending, which is
people could be chuckling. Well, of course not then people
were probably laughing even hearing the idea of such But
if Let's say the government paid for the spending and
the spending represented forty percent of the economy.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
That would be disastrous.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
And so it's both debt to GDP and spending to GDP.
Debt to GDP, Michael, is worse because that refers to
not only what's hurting our economy, but what's going to
hurt our kids at randkids' economy.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Correct.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
But I think in twenty twenty six, the issue is
the impact of tariffs, and not in the way that
everyone wants to talk about it, which is ignorant, short
term and totally completely begging for people's own political biases
to drive the subject, as opposed to objective economic analysis,

(07:16):
and that is saying, oh, eggs went up.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
This month, or milk went down this month.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Haha, the tariffs are working, or haha the tariffs aren't working.
And it's just so incandestinely stupid. I can't stand it.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
But there's two But there's two parts to that, right.
One part is the ignorance, all right, So look, no
matter how you cut it, a tariff is attacks and
somebody's gonna pay it. The company's gonna pay it and
eat profit and not grow and higher. Accordingly, or it's
going to get passed on to the consumer and you're

(07:52):
going to pay it. You can't redefine that. But the
other part is what you really addressed first, that we
make this presidential lawyer or presidential partisan politics. And that's
one of the things that you know when you're your
your white paper is on the saddest part of the
recent economic lunacy. The saddest part of the American lunacy

(08:15):
is that the president is in charge of the economy.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
Well, and that we that we want to talk that way,
that we accept that narrative. And it's one of the
reasons you of course, when I first began coming on
your show, Joe Biden was still president.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
And in the aftermath.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Of the inflation that picked up in twenty twenty two
and twenty three, the thing that I kept telling people
is where Biden is responsible for some of this, let's
say it, let's go after it. But talking like Joe
Biden creates the price of eggs is a very bad
idea because it basically now makes us hold on to

(08:57):
this imperial view of at a presidency and as you said,
this ownership of the economy, which has never been true.
But I think that right now on the price issue.
You know, we're The hard part for the president is
he is a natural born salesman, a natural born cheerleader.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
I think it's fair for me to say that he's.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Not the most humble man that God ever let lock
through the door, and and and so and then that
to and also just the basics of politics is you
don't go out and do the malaise speech that Jimmy
Carter did. You know, you have to always have a
sort of positive spin on things. And so when you

(09:43):
add all that those things up together, it causes the
president to say things that are just simply untrue and
talking about we have a smoking hot economy and we
got inflation under control. Well, look, inflation has not gone higher.
But there's a big thing in economic which is called
compared to what the question of asking what would it

(10:05):
have been apart from this to do a proper analysis,
and it's really hard for me to hear people say, oh,
two point seven percent, we beat inflation, and I go, well,
wait a second, it was that or lower than that
for the last seven months of Biden's presidency's and all
you people said was that Joe Biden trade all the inflation. Now,

(10:27):
it went away higher in the middle of his presidency
and those prices didn't come down.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
I certainly get that.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
But when we move the goalpost around, it doesn't bother
me because people are cheering on for their guy, and
they like the president and all that. And it certainly
doesn't bother me that Trump says it, because I just
acknowledged that. I understand his pathology. But it bothers me
because we've now accepted into the rules that we're allowed
to just move the goalpost, and I know that the

(10:54):
Democrats are going to do it. Is two point seven
percent high or not, because when Biden had.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
It, we said it was high. Well, he says it's
the hottest economy.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Is the economy in twenty twenty five grew at one
point nine percent.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
It grew at two point seven percent a year before, So.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Which one is it now? Now, I'm not blaming the
president for any of it. I'm not crediting the president.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
For any of it.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
I'm just simply saying there's different circumstances to go into it,
and I'd like us to be honest and.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Objective about it.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
David Boonson is a presider of the Dividend Cafe, which
I encourage everyone to read. A new piece comes out
every Friday. You probably see him on Fox Business. He's
an economist, he's our money wiz. I'll give you a
great analogy. You know, this week we had the big
breakthrough announcement that engagement on social media and screen time

(11:49):
was down, and Red looks at me and goes, well,
how could it have gone up?

Speaker 2 (11:54):
You know?

Speaker 1 (11:55):
But I mean with inflation. The inflation question is, okay,
you know, that consistency that you were talking about, the
partisan narrative in politics plays and shirts and skins plays.
The other is it never really goes back down. So
we had the inflation from Trump won in closing the
economy and paying people to stay home. Then you have

(12:16):
the doubling down of Biden. I mean, realistically, it never
goes all the way back down, does it.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Well, here's the thing I'll tell you. It does go
down during severe recessions. Okay, So this is the part
no one can say, what is it going to take
to make the overall price level go down? Something that
will make you more mad at me than if it
doesn't go down? Right, Because as much as people understandably

(12:44):
dislike inflation with the politicians figured out a long time ago,
and God knows that central bankers figured this out. And
this goes back to the Great Depression, is that the
number one rule of economics for politicians and central bankers
is to avoid deflation.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Okay, what that does where the.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Debt stays constant but asset prices go down, is create
a spiral.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
And it is brutal to our standard of living.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
It is brutal to our quality of life, to jobs,
wages and economic growth, asset prices, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
And so that is the worst thing. But then on
the other side.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Of this is inflation that gets too high. So they
figured out that Americans and by the way, most just
people and developed countries, they'll put up with two to
three percent.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
They'll just sort of put up with it. They won't
even notice it.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Okay, So you can inflate away purchasing power, and you
do have to have wages growing at least that much.
It really makes voters mad if prices are going up
over a ten year period two to three percent a
year and wages are not going out two to three
percent a year.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
I lived it. I worked for a previous company that
didn't give me a race for seventeen years. All right,
So you're one, two and three. I kind of didn't
notice it. You're five, six and seven. I started going, well,
I don't have enough money. You're ten, twelve thirteen. It
was a crisis, all right, So I get that. I
got to do this because of time. The name of
your white paper was the saddest part of this recent

(14:21):
economic lunacy. If I gave you one.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Minute, that wasn't the white paper. That wasn't the white paper.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Oh that was the Yeah, that was the article in
yeah National Review. But well, all right, so for the article,
what would be what part goes into lunacy? And and
in sixty seconds, what would be the saddest part of
the recent lunacy?

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Oh, well, the ban on.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
Who's allowed to buy and sell homes, the bit of
credit card interest in ten percent, the we're going to
go do quantitative easing of two hundred billion dollars to
buy mortgage bonds to manipulate the interest rate.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
And then what was the.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Fourth one, the ban of returning capital to investors for
defense companies. Those are four different things that were all
said in a seventy two hour period. Some of which
he intends to follow up on, some of which he doesn't,
one of which he's already been on a telephone call
with Elizabeth Warren to figure.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Out how they can go about doing it, all.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
Of which are going to see and I can't rate
them from one to fourst to.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Which ones are the worst, because.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
They're all tied for things that conservatives would be going crazy.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Over if it was anybody else.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
That's exactly right, if anybody else. Well, Tomorrow and Biden.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Most particularly tomorrow on the Dividend Cafe, a.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Really really interesting piece on all these media mergers. We're
looking at this Netflix Warner Brothers thing and what it
is meant to investors over the years of all these
media companies that have merged and done different things, and
yet the ones that paid dividends the whole time have
done great. And the ones who did are the ones
that went into merge. Your hell, and I wonder why

(16:03):
that might be. So I got that use the media
industry to tell a story.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, that, And people would be surprised how much you
can control the narrative because virtually everything they see and
read really comes down to about five to six companies
and three big giant ones and now here it comes again.
There are concerns that I'm gonna do, so yeah, that'd
be great your Dividend Cafe tomorrow. Go to Dividendcafe dot
com and David and I are going to talk more

(16:27):
about that Netflix merger from a little different angle as well. God,
I love you, my brother. I may even actually have
to call you on a personal note because I need
the theologian too. I love you, Thank you for your time,
and I encourage everybody to go to Dividendcafe dot com tomorrow.
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Speaker 3 (18:13):
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(18:46):
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I'm Michael del Jorno. Honored to serve you. Jeffrey and
Red serving all of us. The crew of the International
Space Station is returned to Earth. We still don't know
which one was sick and with what, but Rory might
have more on that. President Trump expected to meet with

(19:07):
the Venezuelan opposition leader, Maria Garina Mujao. That'll be at
the White House today. We sold our first batch of
Venezuelan oil. And it looks like the New York Giants
are going to get John Harbaugh. Looks like the Tennessee
Titans will now have to settle for Joe Pittobach. That's
about all that's left. All right, we were having a conversation.

(19:30):
I want to save this one for last so earlier,
and this is a shameless plug for the podcast. You
can always go back and listen. Jeffrey has it up
by I think nine Central ish ten Eastern and it's
done by hours. So our platinum cardaur covered a lot
of this incitement and misinformation and ginning up. And now
these same people in Minneapolis trying to tell everybody to

(19:54):
calm down. Well, the problem can't be the solution. The
troublemakers can't call for peace. It just doesn't work that way.
They wanted to George Floyd and they got it. But
the other big story, one that I didn't get to today,
which is we're about to head into phase two of
the Gods A Peace Plan, and that's demilitarization, reconstruction, really

(20:19):
the toughest part of the plan, and rebuilding. Then you
have Iran, who closed its airspace to all commercial aircraft.
They were bracing for being attacked, they were ready for
air strikes. They didn't come. But that's really where I
want to have someone on one time with you. The

(20:39):
good news is we've always known that the ultimate solution
for Iran, which is the most predictable threat to the
region and the world is the change would have to
come from within and rise up organically from within, and
it's happening now. In nineteen seventy nine, a similar moment,

(21:06):
President Carter on behalf of the United States meddled on
the fall of the Shaw, but it created the rise
of the Islamic Republic and the Ayahtola and a hostage crisis. Well,
the hostage crisis ended when Ronald Brigan took the oath
of office. The clear and present danger of Iran has

(21:27):
continued since. So what's the question, what should this president
now in twenty twenty six compared to nineteen seventy nine,
Say and do I'll give you an example yesterday Again,
I always have to do this like a disclaimer. I'm

(21:48):
rooting for the president because I'm an American. I don't
root against pilots when I'm on the plane. And I
love this president. That doesn't mean I don't disagree with
them from time to time. Heck, I've disagreed with less

(22:09):
and less the older I get. I even disagree with
my wife. I mean that can happen, you know, the
president speaking to the people of Iran, I like the
President saying help is on the way. I don't necessarily

(22:30):
left vague like that. I don't know that. I do
like the president dismantling has blocked the Houthis and others
as he has done, decimated the proxies and the terror
arms of Iran. The airstrikes against Iran has all weakened Iran,

(22:56):
isolating them economically with sanctions. That's helpful. Those are all great,
great moves. A vague help is on the way or
threat of a military attack, I don't know is where
you need to Just pray for your president that God
will give him wisdom and the right advisors. I can

(23:17):
tell you right now everything Jimmy Carter did wrong. I
can't even have a conversation about what Donald Trump could
do right or wrong without some of you in a
protectiveness just shutting down the whole conversation. So I love
my country, I love my president. I'm praying for his wisdom.
But that's the ugly moment. What is the right thing

(23:40):
to say? What is the right thing to do? And
I'm leaving it there A because I'm not commander in
chief and B because this is a tough one. Like
the question somebody asked John F. Kennedy. Hey, it's the
toughest part about being president. Well, nothing easy ever comes

(24:03):
to this desk. If anything could have been solved earlier,
it would have been the only thing that comes to
my desk are the things that can't be solved about.
The Supreme Court feels that way too sometimes. So I'm
not suggesting I have all the answers or any of
the answers. And then today we have this to kick around.
Associated Press free star link access for Iran seen as

(24:28):
a game changer. Now here's an action, Well that actually yesterday,
but we're talking about it today. Here's an action I
hadn't thought of. Let me tell you something else I
hadn't thought of. Was Donald Trump thinking about this when
he said help was on the way. I don't know,
and maybe not. But it's an interesting thought, isn't it.

(24:54):
We used to use a line when we were local.
Behind every headline is a story, and behind every story
there's so much to talk about. There's so much to understand.
Because the Internet world and social media has shortened our
attention span, and I don't think we go beyond headlines

(25:14):
very much, and we just get sucked into narratives in
whatever bubble we're in, and then we used to have fun. Usually,
the story after the headline disprove the headline. You can't
trust the headline. So in this headline, Starlink Musk game

(25:36):
changer demonstrators this one, the story proves the headline, and
I would, by all definitions say A, I'd never thought
of that. B Oh, this is a game changer. See
here we are in this feeling like a quagmire moment

(25:57):
of what would be helpful to say, what wouldn't be
helpful to do? Oh, this is Brett had a different headline,
Elon Musk to the rescue. Again if we did this
in a previous hour. So I'm not going to relitigate it.
But if I had to find an X factor, the
one thing if I removed it from the equation Donald

(26:21):
Trump doesn't get re elected, I'd probably pick Elon Musk.
And the only other name that comes to mind that
I might bring up is Joe Rogan had a pittable pit,
very pivotal moment. But I'd say Elon Musk. Now, I

(26:42):
want to give you a brief, eccellable explanation why I
would say that. Number one in twenty twenty when they
stole the election. And that's their words, not mine. Go
to the February fifteenth edition of Time magazine. Many of
these people were in the Biden cabinet. They confess, we

(27:03):
weaponized COVID, we changed election laws, we harvested ballots, We
swung the election and swing precincts of swing districts of
swing states. We controlled the narrative, and we silenced any
opposition thought. They lay it all out for you, by

(27:23):
the way, had it not worked, they were going to
lead an insurrection, and they were gearing you up and
desensitizing you to that all through the good trouble of
George Floyd and their explanation, Well that was in the
title of the article, the shadow campaign to save the democracy.

(27:46):
We controlled the narrative, silenced any opposition thought, change election laws,
harvested balance, and sole the election because we had to.
Democracy was at stake. That's not me, a talk show
host saying that, that's them. One of them was Ron Klain,
who went on to be the chief of Staff. Who

(28:07):
is it really, I don't know. Could be the guys
in the article, could have been Podesta, could have been Obama,
could have been Soros could have been all the above.
Oh my gosh, I do say that a lot, don't
I that was just for Red. Well, what happened in
twenty twenty four. You couldn't control the narrative. The death

(28:30):
of journalism became real. You couldn't silence opposition. Thought why
Joe Rogan, Elon Musk buying X block block and then
Donald Trump? Instead? This is where he comes in. Instead

(28:53):
of bashing mail in voting, engaged in it and rather
than rhetoric like they're going to steal us, No, you
make it so decisive they can't steal it because I'm
sure they still harvested votes, but everything had changed. Now

(29:15):
go pick an X factor. I cut to the chase
and say it was Musk and it was Rogan. And
here's Elon Musk at another tough moment with just the
perfect thing to do. So, just as he purchased Act,
Twitter made it Acts a major reason for Trump's victory.

(29:39):
Could he have just put his thumb on the scale
and done the one action that unlikes nineteen seventy nine
could make twenty twenty six a different tomorrow for a
run Iranian demonstrator's ability to it details of bloody nationwide

(30:01):
protests out to the world has been given a boost
SpaceX Starlink satellite internet service, dropping all of its fees,
allowing more people to circumvent the Tehran government's strongest attempt
ever to prevent information from spilling outside of its borders.
They can't not communicate now, they can't not reveal to

(30:26):
the world what's happening with these oppressive moves. The move
by the American aerospace company run by Elon Musk follows
the complete shutdown of telecommunications and internet access to Iron's
eighty five million people blackout now as protests. Protests expanded

(30:49):
over the Islamic Republic's faltering economy and collapses of its currency.
The killings and the isolation, isolation, disinformed, and shut down
of any information will now be offset. Activists told the
Associated Press that Starlink has been available for free to
anyone in Iran who has receivers that the company has

(31:16):
gone even further by pushing firmware updates to help circumvent
government efforts to jam any satellite signals. The moves by
Starlink came two days after President Trump told reporters on
Air Force One that he was going to reach out
to Musk to ask for starlink help for protesters. Starlink

(31:36):
has been crucial, said Madi Yamanajad, an Iranian, whose nonprofit
Net Freedom Pioneers has helped smuggle units into Iran. And
I just wanted to end the show today by saying,
well on the show with Rory, but end my portion
of the show with what is the right thing to say?

(31:59):
What is the right thing to do? Let's not take
this opportunity and make the same mistakes of nineteen seventy nine.
And I'm just wondering at both. I'll credit both my
President Donald Trump and Elon Musk, and I'll end with
this thought, maybe they're not the enemies made you think
they are. It's your morning show with Michael del Chorno.

(32:22):
Let's see. Articles of impeachment against Homeland Security Secretary Christy
Nooame have been filed by one Illinois member of Congress.

Speaker 5 (32:29):
Illinois Democratic Congresswoman Robin Kelly signed the secretary's handling of
the Trump administration's immigration crackdown. She also alleged that Nome
denied members of Congress oversight of ice attention facilities. Kelly's
impeachment articles also accused him of violating public trust and
abusing her power for personal benefit. The lawmaker said the
measure has the support of almost seventy members of Congress,

(32:50):
and she expects more to sign on.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
By Mark Neefield, the US has made its first sale
of Venezuelan oil Jim rupessmore.

Speaker 6 (32:57):
CBS News is reporting the deal is valued at five
hundred million dollars. The exact details of the sale remain unclear,
but a Trump administration official says more sales are expected
in the coming weeks. This comes after the capture of
former Venezuelan president Nicholas Madoro by the US. In the
aftermath of that military operation, the Whitehouse is said it

(33:17):
plans to sell Venezuelan oil and control the proceeds, splitting
the money between the US government, US companies, and Venezuela.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
I'm Jimroop. Contempt of Congress charges are going to be
filed against the Clintons and voted on next week. Former
President Clinton former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton didn't show
up for a scheduled deposition this week, accusing Republicans of
selective prosecution. Thank you for that yawn and vote of confidence.
Read accusing Republicans of selective prosecution. Of course, they were

(33:46):
subpoened in a by partisan vote last summer. Hats, I know,
I wear a lot of them. In the early nineteen hundreds,
everyone wore a hat every day. Today the number has
fallen to seventeen percent pre tennis, with more on National
Hat Day.

Speaker 7 (34:01):
Back in the day, a man or woman wouldn't dream
of leaving the house without a hat. Fordoras, bowlers and
newsboy caps for men, veils and feathers for women. In
the sixties came and we adopted a more casual style
and hats fell out of fashion. Today baseball caps dominate,
but they lacked the style of previous generations. In modern times,
we really get one day to show off a fancy

(34:23):
hat that comes up. May tewond at the Kentucky Derby.
I'm pre tennants.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Rory never wears a hat. I always wear Advisor. As
both Iran and the United States threatened military action, there's
a new study out on how all you Americans feel
about things from Iran to Venezuela to Greenland and Moore.
National correspondent Rory O'Neil is here with that story. Good morning, Rory, Hey,
good morning.

Speaker 4 (34:43):
That's because my giant head, I mean, really giant head.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Well, you're just a giant guy. You're a big guy.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
But yeah, it's not I'd love a good Tama shanter anyway. Iran,
seventy percent of voters think the US should not be
getting involved in Iran. Eighty percent of independence field that way.
On the issue of Venezuela, it's a coin toss Essentially,
forty seven percent support the Trump administration's moved to oust
the Maduro's forty five percent oppose it. Republicans much more

(35:11):
in favor of that military action, eighty five percent approving it.
Democrat number is actually pretty high too, but it's it's
the independence are the split. And on the issue of Greenland,
eighty six percent say they would oppose the US using
military force to take Greenland, and more than half of
US fifty five percent don't even want to buy it.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Well, you know, I'm looking I'm thinking about Maduro, for example.
I don't know what the polls would have suggested. I
can take fifty one percent now are supportive and approve
of the capture of Maduro. So a president has to
act looking forward. Americans can sometimes vote in polls looking back,
you just wonder how these numbers would hold up after action.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
Yeah, just a snapshot and exactly when it was taken.
And you know, there was a lot more anxiety I
think in the immediate aftermath of the military operation there,
like you know, out of concern for our soldiers and
sailors and airmen who were taking part in that event.
But obviously things have dialed down a little bit, but
still overwhelmingly seventy three percent opposed the US sending ground

(36:15):
troops into Venezuela in order to control the country. Seeing
a report this morning on CNN saying that maybe they
would use private security firms, not the US military, to
protect any say, oil investment there by.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Now I don't do it for today.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
We'll see tomorrow morning. Get five.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
We're all in this together. This is your Morning Show
with Michael ndheld Chorno
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