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May the twelfth, twenty twenty six, President Trump says the
ceasefire with Iran is on life support, which may be
exactly why he's departing today for China to meet with
the Chinese President Gi. We have Secretary of War Pete
Heseth going back before the House and Senate today. Bettel
A be there as well. More on that with Rory.
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Speaker 1 (01:14):
Good morning, Rory's here.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
We're going to talk a little bit about the situation
in Iran as well as what we expect to be
fireworks and testimony on Capitol Hill.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Let's start with Iran.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
President says the ceasefire is on life support as he's
heading to China, meaning all.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Eyes on China now to end this.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Right, Well, right, I think this was obviously scheduled. Well,
it was scheduled and then rescheduled to have this meeting,
But certainly the way this ceasefire has been strained and
now put on life support, I'm not sure that was expected.
As this trip to China is set to begin, It'll
be interesting to see if the president wants to wait
to resume any military strikes until after he gets back
(01:56):
from China. That would probably be conventional wisdom, but we've
to throw that out for the past eighteen months or so,
so we'll see what happens in the next he leaves
in a couple of hours.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yes, our very ow John Decker will be on Air
Force one with him and reporting from China starting tomorrow.
Let's talk a little bit about the CEOs that are
going along with him. So much for the riff with
Elon Musk, he's on board, we got Tim Cook, We've
got Larry Fink and other CEOs. So there's a lot
of business on the docket for China. And I'm sure
I want.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Too, right, And this was supposed to be more about tariffs, right,
I mean that's sort of what was setting this up,
was to be a meeting more about trade and tariffs.
As you said, it's an impressive list of CEOs making
the flight, the long flight over to China, and so
I thought that was interesting that they're still sort of
committed to this business aspect of things, even though it
really is going to be a lot of discussions about
(02:49):
Iran and what influenced China can have to say, all right, look,
get these straits reopen, we need the oil flowing again.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I think they're all related. I think it's carrot and
stick together. You know, here's what we can do together,
here's the trouble you're causing with you know, Russia and
Iran together here's what it's costing.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
You.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Come on, get your proxy in line, and let's get
onto business. I think they're both related very much. All right,
fireworks Hegseth and Patel on Capitol Hill. What are we expecting?
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Yeah, separate hearings are happening. Secretary Hegseth is trying to
get that big increase in defense spending up about forty
percent to one point five trillion dollars roughly.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
So that's what it's supposed to be about.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
But look for Democratic senators to be trying to stir
the pot to create sound bites at the two different
hearings and cash Ptel he's expected to be also testifying
about the budget, likely to hear more questions about the
incident at the White House Correspondence Center. And I believe
the head of the Secret Service is also testifying today.
That's going to be about the billion dollar ballroom request.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Bill Maher did a great monologue, and he talked to
young people in America today as well as those that
seemed to be suffering from Trump derangement. And it was
very specific. It was more of a call to look
in the mirror and not blame everything on a president
or everything on society or the economy, and you're going
(04:16):
to come back in the third hour. A lot of pessimism,
especially among young Americans, about the job market. This at
a time where we predicted fifty thousand job increases in
the month of April and turned out to be one
hundred and fifty thousand. This is narratives versus reality. The
economy is not nearly as bad as the narrative suggests,
but narratives are winning the war of minds. Or We'll
(04:38):
be back in the third hour with that story. Can't
have your morning show without your voice.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Nor would we ever.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
We had several of you call this whole thing that
Donald Trump floated yesterday the dream ticket of Rubio and JD.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Vance.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Now that may be a dream ticket, but it's a
nightmare trying to figure out who's on top. So we
asked you, do you buy this dream ticket and what
order would did you put them in? Montage?
Speaker 6 (05:01):
I feel like a Vance Rubio ticket would be a
very different dynamic. The president vice president relationship is generally
more of a subordinate relationship, and I feel like advanced
Rubio ticket would almost have to be more co president
(05:21):
assistant president relationship.
Speaker 7 (05:24):
I'd really want Marco as president. For lack of a
better term, I think JD is still a little wet
behind the ears, especially in the foreign affairs thing. Marco
can rattle off idiot at the top of his head,
no matter what country, your situation you're talking about. I
don't know can JD do another eight years of VP?
I mean, I guess legally he can, but would he
(05:45):
want to do that.
Speaker 8 (05:45):
Is the question, Cornie Michael Jeffery read three months ago.
I would have thought the Vance Rubio ticket would have
been possible, but so much has changed, so I think
Rubio's at the top of the ticket regardless. So the
question is going to be who's the VP. Isn't going
to want it? I'm not sure DeSantis is going to
want it. I'm not sure that Ted Cruise would want it.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
But somebody's gonna step up.
Speaker 8 (06:08):
But I do believe Rubio will be the nominee for
the president in the twenty eight elections.
Speaker 7 (06:13):
This is Paula from so and I washed my hands
for the last seventy years at.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Lest she made the wash reference.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Sorry about oh she's washed her she wassh.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I'm not saying it's off topic. It did come up,
But yeah, that threw me.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Well, the president was in the Rose Garden, he had
law enforcement officials. And again this whole notion of playing
apprentice with jd Vance at Marco was quite literal in
the Rose Garden when he basically does a flash pole.
Speaker 9 (06:46):
Listen, who likes jd Vance, who likes Marco Rubio? All right,
sounds like a good ticket. Jaja is a perfect That
was a perfect ticket.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Senior contributor David Snati, CEO of the American Policy Roundtable,
hosts of The Public Square, and our senior contributor joins us, Well,
there's no question in the president's mind he wants trump
Ism in the hands of one of these two or both.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Is that the choice?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
And will that be the way Republican voters look at
this primary, that it's one of these two and which
ones on top? Or how about neither of them, or
how about all of them be vetted equally and we'll
start from scratch like we always do in an open
primary and an open election, or or there's another or or.
Speaker 10 (07:37):
How about he did that once again for China because
he wants to make sure that those folks understand that
if they think that they've only got two more years of.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Putting up with him. Maybe not.
Speaker 10 (07:48):
Now, China's smart and they have billions of dollars invested
in surveillance. Here in America, they have lots of people here.
We're finding a lot more of that out every single day.
That they have people placed in high strategic positions that
are still working for their home government. So they're not
going to get skunked on reality. But maybe he's trying
to alter their perception right from the start. Yeah, we
(08:10):
talked about earlier out of the blue.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Now the president's talking about Venezuela being the fifty first
state like he did China, like he did Greenland, and
we do think that China does like to know. Okay,
you guys are all about one, two, three, four, and
that's what we're focused on. That's what we're playing, that's
what we're blocking, that's what we're warring with, and then
he throws them these surprises. You could make a case
(08:35):
that the choice of posing that question in the Rose
Garden yesterday was like proposing Venezuela as a fifty first
state on the day before he leaves for China. That
they are related, not a stretch. We've talked about this
for years.
Speaker 10 (08:50):
When you put the pieces together, Donald Trump is a
very good behind closed doors negotiator. That's what he's done.
So he spent his life in and what he was
surrounded in. But the question of one on many is
a little bit difficult situation for him. He does great
rallies for people who agree with him, but when he's
trying to move thought processes in regards to moving end mass,
(09:12):
he's not necessarily a great mass communicator.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
He's much better buying closed doors. So we get this.
Speaker 10 (09:20):
Sometimes you think they know exactly what they're doing, and
other times you go, I just don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
The problem is if it's a dream ticket. You know,
if we're going to use the nineteen eighty analogy, Reagan
and Bush was the perfect way to unite the party.
This might be the perfect way to unite the MAGA
portion of the party, but does it even unite the
Republican Party? What is the Republican Party?
Speaker 10 (09:46):
What a fascinating way to start that conversation, because if
you go back to Reagan Bush as uniting the party,
what it actually did was give the establishment Republicanans two
years to mitigate the.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Agenda of Ronald Reagan.
Speaker 10 (10:05):
Ronald Reagan was isolated almost from the get go from
Bush incorporated in the inside the White House. Then the
Gipper hands the ball off to George H. W.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Bush, who not.
Speaker 10 (10:17):
Only fumbles, but leaves the stadium, blows a ninety percent
approval rating and loses the election and gives us Bill Clinton,
who really gave us Hillary Clinton, who still dealing with today.
So it may have been a dream ticket in the moment,
but it was fifty percent win for the bad guys.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, they knew that that Reagan, they couldn't be united
and hang on to the presidency, you know, without Reagan
on the ticket, and that's where all the enthusiasm was.
But I made no mistake about it. HW Bush was establishment.
Reagan was former Democrat, conservative and electric, and this was
their way of doing exactly what you said. But it
(10:59):
was the play get eight years instead of four, which
was later fumbled. Can you do that? And again the
problem is you're left with do you make JD vance
vice president eight more years? Do you make Rubio be
a vice president to JD? I don't think it's both.
(11:20):
I think it's one or the other. That's where I'm headed.
Speaker 10 (11:23):
Yeah, And here's it's kind of the fun part of
all this, if you if you like, And maybe it's
the fun fun part for people who are willing to
continue to pray and keep their trust in God, not
in Man, because you don't know what Donald Trump's gonna
pop up with next in regards to this next election
and what he may have been. He may have that one,
dropped that one completely out of his hat just for fun.
(11:44):
He may be just funding with people. Well, you've got
a whole globe watching when you're when you're making these
kinds of comments from the White House, from the grounds
of the White House.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
So Michael, I don't know. I don't know what he's thinking.
Speaker 10 (11:55):
And I think there's a great potential on people getting
caught up in the ex date of Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
There's a point in which America is going to want
to turn the page.
Speaker 10 (12:04):
That doesn't make him a bad president, that doesn't make
me less grateful for some of the amazing things that
he and his administration and Congress have accomplished. But the
fact of the matter is, we have a shelf life
in American politics, and Donald Trump has way past the
expiration date. He is only the second president to ever
come back into office. So think about it. We've been
at this now with Donald Trump since twenty sixteen. This
(12:26):
is ten years. This is a long time for Americans
to see things at the top, and we got two
more years ago. There's going to be a strong desire
to change the page. So it's sort of like, you know,
Trump may be pushing the button, but that may not
be any energy there by the time we get to
the next year.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
And how often do we kick these things around? And
we wonder why is nobody else talking about this? I mean,
and yet to yesterday, I open up the Atlantic Donald
Donald Trump loves to pit his advisors and staff against
one another. Many aspects of Trump's persona on The Apprentice
may have been manufactured, but not this one, The Atlantic
(13:08):
rights lately. The New York Times noted this weekend this
has played out as Trump informally polling friends and advisors
on who would be better as the Republican nominee in
the next election, JD Vans or Marco Rubio. This goes
back to what I said, He's playing the Apprentice with
these two, and that Mark was his guy, JD was
his kid's guy. And now he wants America to pick
(13:30):
between these two. I do think there are messagings to
the enemy that policies won't be changing in two years
in order to get the negotiation strong. But ultimately, this
is the game he's playing. I get it, the Atlanta
get it and gets it, and apparently nobody else observes it.
Making predictions about this is atlantic again. Making predictions about
how voters will feel by twenty twenty eight is feudal.
(13:53):
But for a long time the front runner seem to
have been decided within the administration. If jd Vance runs
for president, He's going to be our nominee, and I'll
be one of the first people to support him, said
Marco Rubio. Now Rubio appears to be gaining some momentum.
The Secretary of State, who is also Trump's National security advisor,
is suddenly everywhere, whether ringside with Trump at a uf
(14:15):
SEE fight, whether death side in the Pope's Vatican office,
or perch behind the podium at the White House briefing room.
As my colleague Matt Weiser wrote last week, Rubio, who
often seemed gloom early in the administration, now looks to
be having the time of his life. He's rising. JD's
(14:36):
still the leader. But now just us in the Atlantic
are noticing the president's playing apprentice with these two.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Well, you've got it in the right order. You were first.
They're listening.
Speaker 10 (14:49):
Both you and the Atlantic are six months ahead of
where we're going to be living for two years, because
this is the only question that's going to be out
there once we get past November third of this year
for the next two years. What said about that, Michael,
is it defies the most important things that we need
to do to fix our country.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
We can't get over the presidency.
Speaker 10 (15:07):
That's where we are in the American system, but there
are some things that we have to do in spite
of the.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Presidency if we're going to continue to survive.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, well, the issues and the American people having the
ability to choose based on issues is a much different game,
and the game we're supposed to be playing more with
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if you're just waking up, Nebraska and West Virginia headed
to the polls today. It is an election primary day.
We save fireworks, but it's just partisan politics dysfunction at
its best. Our Secretary of War Pete hegg Seth will
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Cash Patel. You can only imagine, well, second verse same
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Speaker 1 (18:07):
Remind me to bring that up with Rory.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Rory plays Wordle every morning like I do, and Nick
and Andrea imagine Wordle as a game show. I think
this one's got potential and it's produced by Jimmy Fallon
Lemore on that coming up. All right, we were talking, listen,
there's so much about today that I could have never anticipated.
I mean, if you'd have tapped me on the shoulder.
(18:29):
When I began in radio, you had the UPI and
the AP wire sitting in the other room. You went
to a radio station where an engineer, if they weren't
running everything, they certainly set everything up. The notion that
you could broadcast from your home, that there would be
no Associated Press or UPI of any influence, let alone
(18:52):
what we now know is the Internet or social media
or all of this.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
It's all unconceivable.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Having said, the business model of the Associated Press, it
doesn't exist, and they're broke, and it's not like they
can charge radio stations. I mean, look at music stations
and how we buy music today and how that used
to fund songwriters and artists compared to you better hit
(19:20):
the road and make some concert. Mind me, everything has
just changed. So I get their dilemma. I get it
so much that David's going to be shocked at my
first question. The Associated Press has secured over thirty million
dollars from leftist foundations and donors. This is a course
given to them to provide unbiased local news. Now, with
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their business models shot, they got to do something. Did
the Right miss an opportunity and right foundations miss an
opportunity to fund the Associated Press and maybe solve or
how about this? Is it even solvable? Journalism's dead. It
doesn't matter who you are, where your money's coming from.
It's all biased and no one believes any of it anyway.
(20:09):
In other words, why would any foundation give thirty million
dollars to something that can't really achieve any impact. It's
a fascinating topic. But first things first, David, the left
is making a move on the Associated Press. What can
we expect? You're un mute, by the way.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Yes, it's been there for several years.
Speaker 10 (20:29):
And the key is to see where the money's coming from,
and the money's coming from clearly leftist foundations, not the
least of which is the Eli Lilly Foundation of lilyan
Dowmon Inc. Now you'll notice that the Lily foundations running
are the Eli Lilly the company. The drug company is
now running commercial saying they're not a drug company.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
They're a medicine company. That's interesting.
Speaker 10 (20:52):
So they don't want to be considered a drug company,
even though their stock is soort according to media reports,
based upon their ability to sell people diabetes drugs and
weight loss drugs. So it's it's sort of like, okay,
and what are you solving with those drugs? As far
as being medicine as opposed to again, chronic illness anyhow,
(21:13):
that's a whole RFK junior thing. But Lily is just
one of many that are coming, and Lily would be
almost considered center left compared to some of the more
significant leftist organizations that are going there. You're right, it's
a smart business move on their part because their model
was established on newspapers and there are none anymore, right,
all right, And furthermore, newspapers all have the Internet, So why.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Do they need the AP. The idea was the AP.
Speaker 10 (21:39):
Got their first, got their cleanest, provided the base of
the stories, and then distributed them for everyone else to
build off of.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
And people were subscribers to the AP media friends.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
And we didn't call it that then, but this is
how you controlled the narrative associated press. But it would
come over the wire. The newspeople would rip the wire
and stack their newscasts.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
You and I have got a lifetime, two lifetimes in radio.
Speaker 10 (22:03):
Just talking to Wayne Shepard, our co host on the
Public Square yesterday about this very story, he said, I've
got a picture of me ripping the stories off the
wire some forty years ago. This is what we used
to do, and AP and UPI were considered credible. Well,
that business model has fallen to technology, and for them
to get funding, they've got to have agenda, and they've
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got to have an agenda that they can get paid for,
so they're doing what so many other nonprofits do. Look,
I've served in a nonprofit for forty one years. We've
been able to stay what's commonly called fiercely independent because
we don't get hung up in carrying the water.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
For any foundation.
Speaker 10 (22:42):
But AP is going in saying we're at thirty we
want to get to one hundred million. They'd be fine
if they would be fine if Left Wing Foundation has
paid their entire bill, But you have to watch the
trending of their news, the behavior of their news bureaus
and what gets in print and what's in print is
clearly and dramatically becoming editorialized left wing, particularly their attacks
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on the founding of the country and their attempt to
change the subject on the fourth of July.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Is this a significant amount of additional money or about
what's been happening all along? Just some of the players
have changed.
Speaker 10 (23:16):
Well, they're still looking at replacement though as far as
having a budget. But I mean, the AP at one
hundred million is a pretty good operation, and that's what
they're trying to do, according to news reports, and some
of this carries their moniker over it, So they're pretty
bold and open and honest about it.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
If you go looking.
Speaker 10 (23:32):
If you don't, you get a little cute disclaimer at
the end of the article. Blah blah Blah Foundation contributed
is a contributor to the blah blah Blah APR Fund
to blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Blah nonprofits funding a nonprofit in order to continue a narrative. Yeah,
what could possibly go wrong?
Speaker 1 (23:53):
It's simple.
Speaker 10 (23:56):
It's kind of mainline in it now, Michael. But at
least if you know, then you have a chance. If
you know, you've got a chance to get better information.
And that's why I continue to say. One of the
great things about talk radio and people who are smart
out there get it is that it's fresh, it's daily,
you've got some let you've got people who can call
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you in and call you out. There's still some modicum
of integrity and continuity in talk radio because it's on
the ground.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
It's human. So I think this is a better mechanism.
Speaker 10 (24:29):
In the old days, we used to count on the
ap Now it's just one more slide them to the.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Left of the line. David's an out of your senior
contributor joining us. You talked about most of these leftist
foundations that are all trying to deconstruct their founding. That's
why I was curious, is this a lot of new
money with the timing of the two hundred and fiftieth
or is this more about the AP failed business model
and hey, let's get in here with some real dollars
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and control at least our section of the narrative. But
I just don't think AP delivers. It's going to focus
on the left side of this. I'm going to focus
on the other side of this is you're not getting
any bang for your buck no matter what money you
give them. It's not like every newspaper is printing what
they're saying, or every radio station's ripping and reading it anymore.
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And the wild while west of social media and the
internet and other live broadcasts and podcasts. What are you
getting for your thirty million dollars? I know what AP's getting,
but what are they getting?
Speaker 10 (25:30):
Well, AP's still got talent, and they've created like some
of their attacks and the founding are very sophisticated. They
put together one that we've deconstructed on the public square.
By the way, for the next several weeks, we brought
doctor Allen in yesterday to help us on the deconstruction project.
But basically AP is still doing Disney quality productions. They
can spin a story and add the video and get
(25:53):
the professors in and you know they've they know how
to play the game, so they put together a good package.
And that's the kind of thing that foundations are interested in.
You show me the story, show me the impact. So
they're to be admired for their ambition and their initiative.
It's just that they've gone and basically they fundamentally lost
their mind because they're trying to survive.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
For everyone listening, just do you want them to be
aware right now?
Speaker 7 (26:18):
What?
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Ultimately is this a part of a bigger plan? Is
this a big enough execution of the big plan? What's
the threat here other than just being observant of the
game that's being played.
Speaker 10 (26:33):
Because something like the Lilly Foundation, for example, is now
many generations passed where the Foundings begins. Are most of
the big Foundations if they started left, they're only more left.
If they started right, they're always moving to the left.
Why is that happening? Because truth is a hard generational
pass You've talked a number of times about third generation.
(26:56):
By the time it gets people to come here that
they understand the Declaration, they understand the Constitution, they understand
the responsibilities to liberty. They go up with the make
their own money. They focus on Congress, they focus on
the States. They're not worshiping the presidency. That's the way
America used to run, and foundations used to work to
found a fund and find people that will help develop
the American worldview. Now you've got a lot of people
(27:17):
that don't like that stuff anymore. They definitely are far
left in their personal philosophies and their lifestyles, and so
they want to get rid of any of the dust
of conscience that remains in culture, so that we just
got a free for all going on. And remember you're
dealing with people in Atlantic had another great article about
going to billionaire camp going to an article about going
(27:37):
to one of Jeff Bezos's campfire events. Billionaires have these
little camping events where they bring in people all the
time to influence thought leaders. Well, AP wants to be
one of those people that's influencing thought leaders, and foundations
want to influence thought leaders. They've got an agenda and
they do it behind the scenes. And then what they
do is they give us the pretty wrapping paper and
(27:59):
the prettys and videos out there in the daily news.
To further the narrative, there is a billion our class.
It is multi generational. It starts left and moves left,
and if they're spending their money.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
You know, we did in our Platinum, our first hour,
we discussed a little bit about what the Internet and
social media kind of corrected and got right at the beginning,
which was in the AOL days, we started being fascinated
and cherishing other people, Like you would just bump into
(28:32):
somebody online and it was just so cool. And I
used to always say, we never did this with phones.
In fact, when you did it was called a prank.
You didn't just dial some random number and go, hey, Hi,
I'm Michael. Yeah, Michael, what can I do for it? Wow,
you're like a human being.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Hi, I just want you know.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
But on the Internet we would do it and it
was two way, right, and I thought, you know, in hindsight,
what a wonderful way to live.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Now, this is going to be very c. S.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Lewis, but I want everyone to just follow it from
a non religious perspective. You're surrounded every day, not by strangers,
doesn't strangers sound like a negative dark word. You're surrounded
by other created eternal souls treat him that way. And
yet we were looking at in the Pete Davidson joke
about Charlie Kirk during a roast was just the example
(29:16):
we used. But this viciousness online is starting to be
viciousness in real life, and it's now dictating the way
we talk to each other. We should be more like
we were when we first went on AOL. But now'
but what I'm hearing you say is these leftist foundations
too are becoming far more left and they're the money
(29:40):
for the outrageous or in some cases violent leftist movements
as well. And we're even seeing it with the Associated Press.
By the way, the reference to it's a human condition
that was observed and I can't take credit for it.
David Wilkerson wrote the book Spiritual Breakthroughs. The subtitle was
the Lesson of the Three Chairs, and he went through
the entire Bible and what you see consistently and persistently,
(30:01):
which is a human condition like conformity, which is why
Jesus used to call us sheep. Sheep are not stupid,
they're very conforming. So if you talk, if you live
in a certain area, you'll talk that way. If a
certain area believes a certain way, you'll believe that way.
Of course, we're not supposed to live in a conforming
way Romans twelve one, but be transformative. But what David
(30:23):
Wilkers looked at was the way it works. Like a
first generation born again Christian really believes and really lives
what they believe, by and large, their children will really believe,
but live and compromise, and their children, the original believer's
grandchild will reject and live in rebellion. That is the
(30:45):
natural human pattern. Now that would apply to anything like
David just did to America, which is you talk to
I mean, I never got to meet my great grandparents.
And in two of the four cases, they were the
ones that gave gave their life up. They literally sacrificed
all their hopes, all their dreams to come to America
(31:07):
for what America was not a GPS location but an idea,
an ideal, and to be a part of that. The
next generation, of course, with that same proclivity, would still
believe in all those things, but live and compromise. That
third might be like what we're seeing in the form
of invasion in America today, but it can be applied
(31:29):
to anything. It's just a three generational drift. We have
to get back to our foundings, the moral worldview, the
self governing worldview, and away from these expecting politicians who
will say anything to better themselves. And that's what they do.
(31:49):
They leave millionaires and return them to servonhood. But yeah,
I think we're with three generations past that for sure.
Go ahead, Yeah, we're leaky vessels in we forget and
that's the problem, Michael. It's not that Everbray Wake seven says, hey,
let's go be bad people today. It's just that we
forgot where we came from. So thirty million dollars from
leftist owners to prop up AP be aware and bottom line,
(32:15):
expect leftist narrative.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Sorry, it's so self serving. Stick with your morning show.
Well there's that too, Stick together, folks.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
David's off on assignment the rest of the week, but
have safe travels and we'll see when you get back
next week.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Thanks boys.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
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May the twelfth, twenty twenty six, President Trump says the
ceasefire with Iran is on life support, which may be
exactly why he's departing today for China to meet with
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Speaker 1 (01:14):
Good morning, Rory's here.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
We're going to talk a little bit about the situation
in Iran as well as what we expect to be
fireworks and testimony on Capitol Hill.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Let's start with Iran.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
President says the ceasefire is on life support as he's
heading to China, meaning all.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Eyes on China now to end this.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Right, Well, right, I think this was obviously scheduled. Well,
it was scheduled and then rescheduled to have this meeting,
But certainly the way this ceasefire has been strained and
now put on life support, I'm not sure that was expected.
As this trip to China is set to begin, It'll
be interesting to see if the president wants to wait
to resume any military strikes until after he gets back
(01:56):
from China. That would probably be conventional wisdom, but we've
to throw that out for the past eighteen months or so,
so we'll see what happens in the next he leaves
in a couple of hours.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yes, our very ow John Decker will be on Air
Force one with him and reporting from China starting tomorrow.
Let's talk a little bit about the CEOs that are
going along with him. So much for the riff with
Elon Musk, he's on board, we got Tim Cook, We've
got Larry Fink and other CEOs. So there's a lot
of business on the docket for China. And I'm sure
I want.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Too, right, And this was supposed to be more about tariffs, right,
I mean that's sort of what was setting this up,
was to be a meeting more about trade and tariffs.
As you said, it's an impressive list of CEOs making
the flight, the long flight over to China, and so
I thought that was interesting that they're still sort of
committed to this business aspect of things, even though it
really is going to be a lot of discussions about
(02:49):
Iran and what influenced China can have to say, all right, look,
get these straits reopen, we need the oil flowing again.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I think they're all related. I think it's carrot and
stick together. You know, here's what we can do together,
here's the trouble you're causing with you know, Russia and
Iran together here's what it's costing.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
You.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Come on, get your proxy in line, and let's get
onto business. I think they're both related very much. All right,
fireworks Hegseth and Patel on Capitol Hill. What are we expecting?
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Yeah, separate hearings are happening. Secretary Hegseth is trying to
get that big increase in defense spending up about forty
percent to one point five trillion dollars roughly.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
So that's what it's supposed to be about.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
But look for Democratic senators to be trying to stir
the pot to create sound bites at the two different
hearings and cash Ptel he's expected to be also testifying
about the budget, likely to hear more questions about the
incident at the White House Correspondence Center. And I believe
the head of the Secret Service is also testifying today.
That's going to be about the billion dollar ballroom request.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Bill Maher did a great monologue, and he talked to
young people in America today as well as those that
seemed to be suffering from Trump derangement. And it was
very specific. It was more of a call to look
in the mirror and not blame everything on a president
or everything on society or the economy, and you're going
(04:16):
to come back in the third hour. A lot of pessimism,
especially among young Americans, about the job market. This at
a time where we predicted fifty thousand job increases in
the month of April and turned out to be one
hundred and fifty thousand. This is narratives versus reality. The
economy is not nearly as bad as the narrative suggests,
but narratives are winning the war of minds. Or We'll
(04:38):
be back in the third hour with that story. Can't
have your morning show without your voice.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Nor would we ever.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
We had several of you call this whole thing that
Donald Trump floated yesterday the dream ticket of Rubio and JD.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Vance.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Now that may be a dream ticket, but it's a
nightmare trying to figure out who's on top. So we
asked you, do you buy this dream ticket and what
order would did you put them in? Montage?
Speaker 6 (05:01):
I feel like a Vance Rubio ticket would be a
very different dynamic. The president vice president relationship is generally
more of a subordinate relationship, and I feel like advanced
Rubio ticket would almost have to be more co president
(05:21):
assistant president relationship.
Speaker 7 (05:24):
I'd really want Marco as president. For lack of a
better term, I think JD is still a little wet
behind the ears, especially in the foreign affairs thing. Marco
can rattle off idiot at the top of his head,
no matter what country, your situation you're talking about. I
don't know can JD do another eight years of VP?
I mean, I guess legally he can, but would he
(05:45):
want to do that.
Speaker 8 (05:45):
Is the question, Cornie Michael Jeffery read three months ago.
I would have thought the Vance Rubio ticket would have
been possible, but so much has changed, so I think
Rubio's at the top of the ticket regardless. So the
question is going to be who's the VP. Isn't going
to want it? I'm not sure DeSantis is going to
want it. I'm not sure that Ted Cruise would want it.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
But somebody's gonna step up.
Speaker 8 (06:08):
But I do believe Rubio will be the nominee for
the president in the twenty eight elections.
Speaker 7 (06:13):
This is Paula from so and I washed my hands
for the last seventy years at.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Lest she made the wash reference.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Sorry about oh she's washed her she wassh.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I'm not saying it's off topic. It did come up,
But yeah, that threw me.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Well, the president was in the Rose Garden, he had
law enforcement officials. And again this whole notion of playing
apprentice with jd Vance at Marco was quite literal in
the Rose Garden when he basically does a flash pole.
Speaker 9 (06:46):
Listen, who likes jd Vance, who likes Marco Rubio? All right,
sounds like a good ticket. Jaja is a perfect That
was a perfect ticket.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Senior contributor David Snati, CEO of the American Policy Roundtable,
hosts of The Public Square, and our senior contributor joins us, Well,
there's no question in the president's mind he wants trump
Ism in the hands of one of these two or both.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Is that the choice?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
And will that be the way Republican voters look at
this primary, that it's one of these two and which
ones on top? Or how about neither of them, or
how about all of them be vetted equally and we'll
start from scratch like we always do in an open
primary and an open election, or or there's another or or.
Speaker 10 (07:37):
How about he did that once again for China because
he wants to make sure that those folks understand that
if they think that they've only got two more years of.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Putting up with him. Maybe not.
Speaker 10 (07:48):
Now, China's smart and they have billions of dollars invested
in surveillance. Here in America, they have lots of people here.
We're finding a lot more of that out every single day.
That they have people placed in high strategic positions that
are still working for their home government. So they're not
going to get skunked on reality. But maybe he's trying
to alter their perception right from the start. Yeah, we
(08:10):
talked about earlier out of the blue.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Now the president's talking about Venezuela being the fifty first
state like he did China, like he did Greenland, and
we do think that China does like to know. Okay,
you guys are all about one, two, three, four, and
that's what we're focused on. That's what we're playing, that's
what we're blocking, that's what we're warring with, and then
he throws them these surprises. You could make a case
(08:35):
that the choice of posing that question in the Rose
Garden yesterday was like proposing Venezuela as a fifty first
state on the day before he leaves for China. That
they are related, not a stretch. We've talked about this
for years.
Speaker 10 (08:50):
When you put the pieces together, Donald Trump is a
very good behind closed doors negotiator. That's what he's done.
So he spent his life in and what he was
surrounded in. But the question of one on many is
a little bit difficult situation for him. He does great
rallies for people who agree with him, but when he's
trying to move thought processes in regards to moving end mass,
(09:12):
he's not necessarily a great mass communicator.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
He's much better buying closed doors. So we get this.
Speaker 10 (09:20):
Sometimes you think they know exactly what they're doing, and
other times you go, I just don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
The problem is if it's a dream ticket. You know,
if we're going to use the nineteen eighty analogy, Reagan
and Bush was the perfect way to unite the party.
This might be the perfect way to unite the MAGA
portion of the party, but does it even unite the
Republican Party? What is the Republican Party?
Speaker 10 (09:46):
What a fascinating way to start that conversation, because if
you go back to Reagan Bush as uniting the party,
what it actually did was give the establishment Republicanans two
years to mitigate the.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Agenda of Ronald Reagan.
Speaker 10 (10:05):
Ronald Reagan was isolated almost from the get go from
Bush incorporated in the inside the White House. Then the
Gipper hands the ball off to George H. W.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Bush, who not.
Speaker 10 (10:17):
Only fumbles, but leaves the stadium, blows a ninety percent
approval rating and loses the election and gives us Bill Clinton,
who really gave us Hillary Clinton, who still dealing with today.
So it may have been a dream ticket in the moment,
but it was fifty percent win for the bad guys.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, they knew that that Reagan, they couldn't be united
and hang on to the presidency, you know, without Reagan
on the ticket, and that's where all the enthusiasm was.
But I made no mistake about it. HW Bush was establishment.
Reagan was former Democrat, conservative and electric, and this was
their way of doing exactly what you said. But it
(10:59):
was the play get eight years instead of four, which
was later fumbled. Can you do that? And again the
problem is you're left with do you make JD vance
vice president eight more years? Do you make Rubio be
a vice president to JD? I don't think it's both.
(11:20):
I think it's one or the other. That's where I'm headed.
Speaker 10 (11:23):
Yeah, And here's it's kind of the fun part of
all this, if you if you like, And maybe it's
the fun fun part for people who are willing to
continue to pray and keep their trust in God, not
in Man, because you don't know what Donald Trump's gonna
pop up with next in regards to this next election
and what he may have been. He may have that one,
dropped that one completely out of his hat just for fun.
(11:44):
He may be just funding with people. Well, you've got
a whole globe watching when you're when you're making these
kinds of comments from the White House, from the grounds
of the White House.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
So Michael, I don't know. I don't know what he's thinking.
Speaker 10 (11:55):
And I think there's a great potential on people getting
caught up in the ex date of Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
There's a point in which America is going to want
to turn the page.
Speaker 10 (12:04):
That doesn't make him a bad president, that doesn't make
me less grateful for some of the amazing things that
he and his administration and Congress have accomplished. But the
fact of the matter is, we have a shelf life
in American politics, and Donald Trump has way past the
expiration date. He is only the second president to ever
come back into office. So think about it. We've been
at this now with Donald Trump since twenty sixteen. This
(12:26):
is ten years. This is a long time for Americans
to see things at the top, and we got two
more years ago. There's going to be a strong desire
to change the page. So it's sort of like, you know,
Trump may be pushing the button, but that may not
be any energy there by the time we get to
the next year.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
And how often do we kick these things around? And
we wonder why is nobody else talking about this? I mean,
and yet to yesterday, I open up the Atlantic Donald
Donald Trump loves to pit his advisors and staff against
one another. Many aspects of Trump's persona on The Apprentice
may have been manufactured, but not this one, The Atlantic
(13:08):
rights lately. The New York Times noted this weekend this
has played out as Trump informally polling friends and advisors
on who would be better as the Republican nominee in
the next election, JD Vans or Marco Rubio. This goes
back to what I said, He's playing the Apprentice with
these two, and that Mark was his guy, JD was
his kid's guy. And now he wants America to pick
(13:30):
between these two. I do think there are messagings to
the enemy that policies won't be changing in two years
in order to get the negotiation strong. But ultimately, this
is the game he's playing. I get it, the Atlanta
get it and gets it, and apparently nobody else observes it.
Making predictions about this is atlantic again. Making predictions about
how voters will feel by twenty twenty eight is feudal.
(13:53):
But for a long time the front runner seem to
have been decided within the administration. If jd Vance runs
for president, He's going to be our nominee, and I'll
be one of the first people to support him, said
Marco Rubio. Now Rubio appears to be gaining some momentum.
The Secretary of State, who is also Trump's National security advisor,
is suddenly everywhere, whether ringside with Trump at a uf
(14:15):
SEE fight, whether death side in the Pope's Vatican office,
or perch behind the podium at the White House briefing room.
As my colleague Matt Weiser wrote last week, Rubio, who
often seemed gloom early in the administration, now looks to
be having the time of his life. He's rising. JD's
(14:36):
still the leader. But now just us in the Atlantic
are noticing the president's playing apprentice with these two.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Well, you've got it in the right order. You were first.
They're listening.
Speaker 10 (14:49):
Both you and the Atlantic are six months ahead of
where we're going to be living for two years, because
this is the only question that's going to be out
there once we get past November third of this year
for the next two years. What said about that, Michael,
is it defies the most important things that we need
to do to fix our country.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
We can't get over the presidency.
Speaker 10 (15:07):
That's where we are in the American system, but there
are some things that we have to do in spite
of the.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Presidency if we're going to continue to survive.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, well, the issues and the American people having the
ability to choose based on issues is a much different game,
and the game we're supposed to be playing more with
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We're visiting with David Sanatti, our senior contributor. In a moment,
if you're just waking up, Nebraska and West Virginia headed
to the polls today. It is an election primary day.
We save fireworks, but it's just partisan politics dysfunction at
its best. Our Secretary of War Pete hegg Seth will
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be testifying on the Capitol today, as will FBI Director
Cash Patel. You can only imagine, well, second verse same
as the first, how that one goes. And Savannah Guthrie
is going to host a new Wordle game show.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Remind me to bring that up with Rory.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Rory plays Wordle every morning like I do, and Nick
and Andrea imagine Wordle as a game show. I think
this one's got potential and it's produced by Jimmy Fallon
Lemore on that coming up. All right, we were talking, listen,
there's so much about today that I could have never anticipated.
I mean, if you'd have tapped me on the shoulder.
(18:29):
When I began in radio, you had the UPI and
the AP wire sitting in the other room. You went
to a radio station where an engineer, if they weren't
running everything, they certainly set everything up. The notion that
you could broadcast from your home, that there would be
no Associated Press or UPI of any influence, let alone
(18:52):
what we now know is the Internet or social media
or all of this.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
It's all unconceivable.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Having said, the business model of the Associated Press, it
doesn't exist, and they're broke, and it's not like they
can charge radio stations. I mean, look at music stations
and how we buy music today and how that used
to fund songwriters and artists compared to you better hit
(19:20):
the road and make some concert. Mind me, everything has
just changed. So I get their dilemma. I get it
so much that David's going to be shocked at my
first question. The Associated Press has secured over thirty million
dollars from leftist foundations and donors. This is a course
given to them to provide unbiased local news. Now, with
(19:47):
their business models shot, they got to do something. Did
the Right miss an opportunity and right foundations miss an
opportunity to fund the Associated Press and maybe solve or
how about this? Is it even solvable? Journalism's dead. It
doesn't matter who you are, where your money's coming from.
It's all biased and no one believes any of it anyway.
(20:09):
In other words, why would any foundation give thirty million
dollars to something that can't really achieve any impact. It's
a fascinating topic. But first things first, David, the left
is making a move on the Associated Press. What can
we expect? You're un mute, by the way.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Yes, it's been there for several years.
Speaker 10 (20:29):
And the key is to see where the money's coming from,
and the money's coming from clearly leftist foundations, not the
least of which is the Eli Lilly Foundation of lilyan
Dowmon Inc. Now you'll notice that the Lily foundations running
are the Eli Lilly the company. The drug company is
now running commercial saying they're not a drug company.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
They're a medicine company. That's interesting.
Speaker 10 (20:52):
So they don't want to be considered a drug company,
even though their stock is soort according to media reports,
based upon their ability to sell people diabetes drugs and
weight loss drugs. So it's it's sort of like, okay,
and what are you solving with those drugs? As far
as being medicine as opposed to again, chronic illness anyhow,
(21:13):
that's a whole RFK junior thing. But Lily is just
one of many that are coming, and Lily would be
almost considered center left compared to some of the more
significant leftist organizations that are going there. You're right, it's
a smart business move on their part because their model
was established on newspapers and there are none anymore, right,
all right, And furthermore, newspapers all have the Internet, So why.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Do they need the AP. The idea was the AP.
Speaker 10 (21:39):
Got their first, got their cleanest, provided the base of
the stories, and then distributed them for everyone else to
build off of.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
And people were subscribers to the AP media friends.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
And we didn't call it that then, but this is
how you controlled the narrative associated press. But it would
come over the wire. The newspeople would rip the wire
and stack their newscasts.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
You and I have got a lifetime, two lifetimes in radio.
Speaker 10 (22:03):
Just talking to Wayne Shepard, our co host on the
Public Square yesterday about this very story, he said, I've
got a picture of me ripping the stories off the
wire some forty years ago. This is what we used
to do, and AP and UPI were considered credible. Well,
that business model has fallen to technology, and for them
to get funding, they've got to have agenda, and they've
(22:25):
got to have an agenda that they can get paid for,
so they're doing what so many other nonprofits do. Look,
I've served in a nonprofit for forty one years. We've
been able to stay what's commonly called fiercely independent because
we don't get hung up in carrying the water.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
For any foundation.
Speaker 10 (22:42):
But AP is going in saying we're at thirty we
want to get to one hundred million. They'd be fine
if they would be fine if Left Wing Foundation has
paid their entire bill, But you have to watch the
trending of their news, the behavior of their news bureaus
and what gets in print and what's in print is
clearly and dramatically becoming editorialized left wing, particularly their attacks
(23:03):
on the founding of the country and their attempt to
change the subject on the fourth of July.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Is this a significant amount of additional money or about
what's been happening all along? Just some of the players
have changed.
Speaker 10 (23:16):
Well, they're still looking at replacement though as far as
having a budget. But I mean, the AP at one
hundred million is a pretty good operation, and that's what
they're trying to do, according to news reports, and some
of this carries their moniker over it, So they're pretty
bold and open and honest about it.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
If you go looking.
Speaker 10 (23:32):
If you don't, you get a little cute disclaimer at
the end of the article. Blah blah Blah Foundation contributed
is a contributor to the blah blah Blah APR Fund
to blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Blah nonprofits funding a nonprofit in order to continue a narrative. Yeah,
what could possibly go wrong?
Speaker 1 (23:53):
It's simple.
Speaker 10 (23:56):
It's kind of mainline in it now, Michael. But at
least if you know, then you have a chance. If
you know, you've got a chance to get better information.
And that's why I continue to say. One of the
great things about talk radio and people who are smart
out there get it is that it's fresh, it's daily,
you've got some let you've got people who can call
(24:17):
you in and call you out. There's still some modicum
of integrity and continuity in talk radio because it's on
the ground.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
It's human. So I think this is a better mechanism.
Speaker 10 (24:29):
In the old days, we used to count on the
ap Now it's just one more slide them to the.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Left of the line. David's an out of your senior
contributor joining us. You talked about most of these leftist
foundations that are all trying to deconstruct their founding. That's
why I was curious, is this a lot of new
money with the timing of the two hundred and fiftieth
or is this more about the AP failed business model
and hey, let's get in here with some real dollars
(24:56):
and control at least our section of the narrative. But
I just don't think AP delivers. It's going to focus
on the left side of this. I'm going to focus
on the other side of this is you're not getting
any bang for your buck no matter what money you
give them. It's not like every newspaper is printing what
they're saying, or every radio station's ripping and reading it anymore.
(25:18):
And the wild while west of social media and the
internet and other live broadcasts and podcasts. What are you
getting for your thirty million dollars? I know what AP's getting,
but what are they getting?
Speaker 10 (25:30):
Well, AP's still got talent, and they've created like some
of their attacks and the founding are very sophisticated. They
put together one that we've deconstructed on the public square.
By the way, for the next several weeks, we brought
doctor Allen in yesterday to help us on the deconstruction project.
But basically AP is still doing Disney quality productions. They
can spin a story and add the video and get
(25:53):
the professors in and you know they've they know how
to play the game, so they put together a good package.
And that's the kind of thing that foundations are interested in.
You show me the story, show me the impact. So
they're to be admired for their ambition and their initiative.
It's just that they've gone and basically they fundamentally lost
their mind because they're trying to survive.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
For everyone listening, just do you want them to be
aware right now?
Speaker 7 (26:18):
What?
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Ultimately is this a part of a bigger plan? Is
this a big enough execution of the big plan? What's
the threat here other than just being observant of the
game that's being played.
Speaker 10 (26:33):
Because something like the Lilly Foundation, for example, is now
many generations passed where the Foundings begins. Are most of
the big Foundations if they started left, they're only more left.
If they started right, they're always moving to the left.
Why is that happening? Because truth is a hard generational
pass You've talked a number of times about third generation.
(26:56):
By the time it gets people to come here that
they understand the Declaration, they understand the Constitution, they understand
the responsibilities to liberty. They go up with the make
their own money. They focus on Congress, they focus on
the States. They're not worshiping the presidency. That's the way
America used to run, and foundations used to work to
found a fund and find people that will help develop
the American worldview. Now you've got a lot of people
(27:17):
that don't like that stuff anymore. They definitely are far
left in their personal philosophies and their lifestyles, and so
they want to get rid of any of the dust
of conscience that remains in culture, so that we just
got a free for all going on. And remember you're
dealing with people in Atlantic had another great article about
going to billionaire camp going to an article about going
(27:37):
to one of Jeff Bezos's campfire events. Billionaires have these
little camping events where they bring in people all the
time to influence thought leaders. Well, AP wants to be
one of those people that's influencing thought leaders, and foundations
want to influence thought leaders. They've got an agenda and
they do it behind the scenes. And then what they
do is they give us the pretty wrapping paper and
(27:59):
the prettys and videos out there in the daily news.
To further the narrative, there is a billion our class.
It is multi generational. It starts left and moves left,
and if they're spending their money.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
You know, we did in our Platinum, our first hour,
we discussed a little bit about what the Internet and
social media kind of corrected and got right at the beginning,
which was in the AOL days, we started being fascinated
and cherishing other people, Like you would just bump into
(28:32):
somebody online and it was just so cool. And I
used to always say, we never did this with phones.
In fact, when you did it was called a prank.
You didn't just dial some random number and go, hey, Hi,
I'm Michael. Yeah, Michael, what can I do for it? Wow,
you're like a human being.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Hi, I just want you know.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
But on the Internet we would do it and it
was two way, right, and I thought, you know, in hindsight,
what a wonderful way to live.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Now, this is going to be very c. S.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Lewis, but I want everyone to just follow it from
a non religious perspective. You're surrounded every day, not by strangers,
doesn't strangers sound like a negative dark word. You're surrounded
by other created eternal souls treat him that way. And
yet we were looking at in the Pete Davidson joke
about Charlie Kirk during a roast was just the example
(29:16):
we used. But this viciousness online is starting to be
viciousness in real life, and it's now dictating the way
we talk to each other. We should be more like
we were when we first went on AOL. But now'
but what I'm hearing you say is these leftist foundations
too are becoming far more left and they're the money
(29:40):
for the outrageous or in some cases violent leftist movements
as well. And we're even seeing it with the Associated Press.
By the way, the reference to it's a human condition
that was observed and I can't take credit for it.
David Wilkerson wrote the book Spiritual Breakthroughs. The subtitle was
the Lesson of the Three Chairs, and he went through
the entire Bible and what you see consistently and persistently,
(30:01):
which is a human condition like conformity, which is why
Jesus used to call us sheep. Sheep are not stupid,
they're very conforming. So if you talk, if you live
in a certain area, you'll talk that way. If a
certain area believes a certain way, you'll believe that way.
Of course, we're not supposed to live in a conforming
way Romans twelve one, but be transformative. But what David
(30:23):
Wilkers looked at was the way it works. Like a
first generation born again Christian really believes and really lives
what they believe, by and large, their children will really believe,
but live and compromise, and their children, the original believer's
grandchild will reject and live in rebellion. That is the
(30:45):
natural human pattern. Now that would apply to anything like
David just did to America, which is you talk to
I mean, I never got to meet my great grandparents.
And in two of the four cases, they were the
ones that gave gave their life up. They literally sacrificed
all their hopes, all their dreams to come to America
(31:07):
for what America was not a GPS location but an idea,
an ideal, and to be a part of that. The
next generation, of course, with that same proclivity, would still
believe in all those things, but live and compromise. That
third might be like what we're seeing in the form
of invasion in America today, but it can be applied
(31:29):
to anything. It's just a three generational drift. We have
to get back to our foundings, the moral worldview, the
self governing worldview, and away from these expecting politicians who
will say anything to better themselves. And that's what they do.
(31:49):
They leave millionaires and return them to servonhood. But yeah,
I think we're with three generations past that for sure.
Go ahead, Yeah, we're leaky vessels in we forget and
that's the problem, Michael. It's not that Everbray Wake seven says, hey,
let's go be bad people today. It's just that we
forgot where we came from. So thirty million dollars from
leftist owners to prop up AP be aware and bottom line,
(32:15):
expect leftist narrative.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Sorry, it's so self serving. Stick with your morning show.
Well there's that too, Stick together, folks.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
David's off on assignment the rest of the week, but
have safe travels and we'll see when you get back
next week.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Thanks boys.
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