August 28, 2026 • 37 mins
National Correspondent RORY O’NEILL will have the latest on Tropical Storm Dolly, which formed only days after Dolly Parton’s death – as well as an update on the landslide that has killed hundreds in Nepal (Rory has been to Nepal).
Tears for Fears cofounder Roland Orzabal joins us on his new memoir “Welcome to your life.” This is must-hear radio!
JON DECKER is more than just a White House Correspondent; he is also on the Board of the International Tennis Hall of Fame, where he is involved in honoring those who have made their mark in the sport. On Friday, Jon will be in Newport, Rhode Island, as Roger Federer becomes the latest tennis pro to be inducted into the Tennis Hall of Fame.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:23):
We're in this together. This is your morning show with
Michael DelGiorno. Well, not to be dramatic, but when you're
watching these images from Nepal, all you can really do
is pray. There's nothing we can do from here. It's
horrific to watch. But there is a God, and there
are rescue workers, and he can help them find the
(00:45):
1,500 missing, 90 of which might be Americans. National correspondent
Rory O'Neill is here. We talked about this, Rory. It
looks like a movie set. It looks like special effects,
but this is real life.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
And it's just an absolute tragedy. The death toll confirmed
is now well over 500. And as you said, that
number is certainly going to climb. The number missing is
also climbing as well, as this really is a major
tourism destination. Don't forget, a lot of people are there
for adventure travel to get to Mount Everest or to
get to the base camp, at least, of Mount Everest
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as well. Also, some religious pilgrimages were happening in the
area at the time.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
So this is just awful on top of awful. I
never know whether to say what are the odds of
this or is this by plan. We're following a tropical storm.
We just lost Dolly Parton. The tropical storm is Dolly.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah, now that name was chosen seven years ago, believe
it or not. So it is the fact that this
storm has formed is no connection really with Dolly Parton
getting the name.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
But it's the fourth name. They do this alphabetically. We've
gone through A, B, and C.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
And yesterday, the D storm formed, and it's Dolly Parton.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
And it's Dolly, rather.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Not necessarily a name for the singer. So, yeah, it
is just Tropical Storm Dolly. There is some dry air
moving into the system, so it really is going to
start to collapse. It might be a depression by the
time it hits Puerto Rico over the weekend. So it
is weakening, but just remarkable that we got the formation
of Tropical Storm Dolly days after her death.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
If you've been watching any of the craziness online, the
numerical craziness, tying Dolly to the end of times, wait
till they hear her. A hurricane named seven years ago
happens to have her name. In the third hour, Friday
with 47, of course, a visit with Dr. Joe Gulati.
But Rory's going to be back. We're going to talk
about that Lindsay Clancy verdict. I believe it's in the
(02:38):
hands of the jury. Could be as soon as today.
One half of the duo and co-creator of Tears for Fears,
Roland Orzebal, out with a new memoir called Welcome to
Your Life. Well, welcome to our show, Roland. Nice to
meet you, too. Listen, I got to tell you one
of the most interesting things about telling people I was
going to visit with you. And I think for most
(03:00):
people listening, Tears for Fears is shout. Everybody rules the world.
But I have found your real fans. They bring up
much different titles. You're out with a new memoir, Welcome
to Your Life. It tells the story of you and
Kurt and the formation of the band. There's so many stories.
interesting stories to tell. And the music is still so
(03:20):
much a part of people's lives. So we're excited to
go through this with you. I think probably the one
thing I learned, I didn't know that Everybody Wants to
Rule the World almost had a different title. It did.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
It was a song that I came up with the
same month that I came up with Shout and a
few others that ended up on the Big Chair album.
But I wasn't sure about it at all because it
wasn't like the previous material. of The Hurting, which was
darker and more emotional. So this was very light. And
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it was originally called Everybody Wants to Go to War,
which is a very negative, grubby title. I was kind
of sitting on the fence about it, but my wife,
my late wife, Caroline, absolutely loved it. And so I
took it into the studio and played it to Kurt, Chris, Hughes,
our producer, and Ian Stanley, our keyboard player, and they
(04:15):
loved it. So we tried out.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
You know, the title of the memoir is a lyric
from that song, Welcome to Your Life. What a great,
who came up with that line? I did. Yeah, that's,
I mean, it's a brilliant lyric. I thought it was,
it was ingenious. I mean, America and the world hasn't
changed that much. I mean, we've been divided before. We
seem to be divided more. at all time levels right now.
(04:40):
But that time, the influence of the 60s and the
Vietnam War and then the Cold War, you had a
view of that even from Europe. And that was a
brilliant way to get around such a divisive title, just
avoid it altogether. And I think people have been singing
that song for 40 years and had no idea where
the inspiration came from. I know, that's true.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I mean, we were all worried at the time about
the Cold War very much. Russia against America. You know,
and things haven't changed. They've become more subtle. We're now
using drones instead of the threat of nuclear weapons, but
it's still pretty horrible.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Everybody wants to rule the world. I mean, just a,
you know, perfect mix, instrumentation mixed with great lyric, great vocal.
I mean, just the recipe. I would think by numbers,
I didn't do this research before visiting you, but that
and Shout were the two biggest. But I think everybody
wants to rule the world, the biggest of them all, right?
Speaker 3 (05:37):
It's become so over the years, you know, because of streaming,
we now have, I guess, what we can call a
mega hit at the point where it's risen exponentially. higher
than any other song in our catalog, even though when
we play live, people can hear all of those songs and,
(05:57):
you know, they sound fantastic. Everybody Wants to Rule the
World is a song I don't think is ever going
to go away.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Fingers crossed. Well, yeah, no, it'll outlive both of us.
Dennis Miller also took it to a new level, making
it the theme of his television and radio show as well.
Roland Orzabal is joining us, co-founder, half the duo of
Tears for Fears. This really is a friendship story too,
not just two teenagers who, by the way, I love
Thin Lizzy. I like Blue Oyster Cult. I never made
(06:27):
a hit song, but you and Kurt get together. This
is kind of the story of your meeting, early music,
eventual breakup. now reuniting it really is a very personal
memoir isn't.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
It it's very personal you know it's a story of
tears for fears um from the horse's mouth which i
don't think has ever been told by an author uh
and so it's it's the intimate detail from someone um
shoot uh blowing my own trumpet uh who has a
very very good memory exactly so yeah it's a story
(07:01):
of me and kurt and um This is also the
story of my early childhood, which was very strange because
my parents ran an entertainment agency from our council house
in England.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Oh, my gosh.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
It's a story of what happened to me later in
life with my late wife and her alcoholism. It's not
a very nice story, but it also has an underlying
layer of astrology which can explain the highs and lows
and the patterns involved in my life.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
If I were to ask the young Roland, what does
welcome to your life mean compared to the Roland now
who has lived a lot of that life, but it's
still the same question. Welcome to your life, Roland, and
welcome to your memoir as we're all reading it. How
different would your views be? Well, I just wrote it
because I was looking for lyrics. I had one night
(07:57):
in Germany, um, as we were mixing, and I had
one night to come up with lyrics, so I didn't
think about it too much. And it seemed like a good,
a really strong opening line, but it's only now. Maybe
I knew I was going to write a book called
Welcome to Your Life. Maybe that's what it was all about.
(08:19):
But when it came to, when it was suggested to
me that I write a memoir, I knew it was
the title immediately. And there's an element, I'm hoping there's
an element of this book, which is kind of like
a self-help book. The reason is it's called Welcome to
Your Life and not Welcome to My Life. You know,
(08:41):
that begs the question, Roland Orzabal joining us, one half
of Tears for Fears, bring us the memoir, Welcome to
Your Life. You know, life, we end up where we
are by the series of choices we make. I have
a friend, David Zanotti, who always says you've got to
get 100 years behind someone's eyes to really understand them.
You speak to your parents, who were, by the way,
influenced and shaped by their parents. That's how you get
(09:03):
to 100 years. But it does beg the question, regrets,
musical regrets, relationship regrets, life regrets. How much of that
is a part of Welcome to Your Life?
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Well, I don't put them in, you know, regrets. I mean,
because I do wonder... I really seriously wonder philosophically whether
we actually have a choice. Because when you look at
the past, it's etched in stone. And I'm really not sure.
But regrets, of course. I wish I'd flossed.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Okay, that's the line of the day.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
I wish I'd bought shares in Apple. Come on.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Oh. You know what? It's so surreal to me. I
used to play video games in the arcade while your
music was playing. You know, you've kind of become the
soundtrack of all of our lives. And what this memoir
is going to give us is a blueprint of what
was happening in that inspired the writing of those songs,
(10:06):
what was happening in your life during those songs, what
happened in your life since we haven't, you know, been
sharing time together. And yeah, I think the big takeaway
is I don't believe in regrets either, because you can't
go back. You know, we don't get a redo. And really,
quite frankly, most of the things, you know, I don't know,
I guess my, I wouldn't call it a regret, my
(10:26):
dumbest career move was was at 20 something years old,
I had a chance to go run WLS in Chicago.
And I was just thinking, well, I love Chicago. I
love WLS, but none of the people I grew up
listening to still work there. It's freezing. I'd be in
traffic two hours a day. I got a pretty good
life where I am. And I said, no, now from
a career path, that was a dumb thing to do.
But you don't really have regrets, right? Because even our
(10:49):
mistakes shape us and make us what we are. And
I don't think anybody wants to change what we are, right?
It's true.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
I mean, if I look back, and I had the
chance to move the dial somewhat at certain times, I
would have done that, and it would have made my
career much better and much easier. But the problem is,
at some point, your personal life and the world inside
completely takes precedent. And I think that, you know, when
(11:20):
I look back now, yes, there are definitely things I
would have done differently. But I'm not sure if the
overall pattern and the overall result would have changed that much.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Well, there is no tears for fears unless you and
Kurt are teenage friends. There is no breakup if working
together doesn't create strains and life doesn't create strains. And
guess what? The reunion isn't what it is if you
don't have the breakup. So, I mean, really, is it
worth our time to dissect? Although I should say, as
much as I always loved the name Tears for Fears,
(11:54):
I never really thought about Tears for Fears as a name.
Kind of like being smart enough not to call everybody
wants to go to war versus everybody wants to rule
the world. Tears for Fears, a psychology term. So I
am talking to a psychologist slash astrologist. I'm sure you've
overthought all of this. How did you come up with
a name? I mean, what teenagers thinking about psychology terms?
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Yeah, I mean, this is the thing that sets us apart.
I mean, there is a chapter in the book which
explains in depth what we were inspired by and the
life I chose to follow. It's called A Process of Becoming.
So Kurt and I were very much influenced by a
(12:39):
Californian psychologist called Arthur Janoff. And he wrote a book
called The Primal Scream. And John Lennon made it famous many,
many years ago. And we embraced the theory.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
It was.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Pretty much about sort of the child being born a
blank slate. The child is a victim to his parents.
And whatever they did created our character. That was what
I believed at the time. And primal therapy, which is
what it was called, was very cathartic. There was a
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lot of emotion involved in the therapy. It's not a
talking cure like psychoanalysis, and it's not like modern psychotherapy
at all. It's much more of an emotional bloodbath. So
that's what inspired us in the beginning, especially the first album,
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The Hurting.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
I guess I was the only one who was thinking
about girls and being a Major League Baseball player. Closing
moments with Roland Orzabal, a co-founder, half the duo of
Tears for Fears, out with a new memoir, Welcome to
Your Life. I think this is going to sound so
radio host-ish, but... If you love their music, you're going
to love the stories behind them and what created them,
(14:04):
who wrote it. You know, I want to end full circle.
I talked about, I would have brought up Naturally Shout,
Everybody Wants to Rule the World. I must have heard
Mad World as more people's favorite song than that when
talking about I'm just going to visit with you. And
I'm thinking to myself, what were you, 19 when you
wrote that? Yeah, it was. Yeah, incredible, eh? I mean,
(14:26):
God created a very thoughtful young man in England who
created some really thoughtful music. What are you hoping we
take away from this memoir? Because I'm with you. I
think there's a lot of real life in this beyond music. Yeah,
I think so. I mean, you know, my life, like
a lot of people's, has had ups and downs and
(14:47):
triumphs and tragedies. And I'm hoping... that people will read
it and understand part of themselves, and I'm hoping they
will read it and see that there is an underlying
pattern to everyone's life, even if there may not be
(15:08):
someone up there controlling us as puppets, may not be,
may be simply organic, but there is a series of
principles and patterns behind every life Yeah, and I was
having this conversation yesterday with my cousin, and every generation
has the opportunity to break those cycles and create new ones.
(15:28):
That's what I'm hoping this book allows people to see
a little bit more clearly. That's a nice way of
putting it. Yeah, I just thought, you know, welcome to
your life. What a great way to start an iconic song.
What a great song. So many great songs. So great
to hear these stories. I encourage everybody to get Welcome
to Your Life. It is a memoir of Roland Orzabal
(15:50):
and the Tears for Fears lives behind the music and stories.
I know they're going to love it. I learned a
lot and I enjoyed every second of it. Roland, thank
you so much for your time. Thank you. You know,
you'll hear something in the background during that interview if
you listen closely and it's my pen doing that. Look,
I'm aware I have attention deficit disorder. I don't think
(16:12):
that Roland and I have the same eternal beliefs necessarily
that But that's a thoughtful guy. And I found it
fascinating and interesting. If you're hearing that click, that's because
I'm not thinking about what to say next. I'm in
the moment. And this guy has me captivated. I hope
you found that as much must-hear radio as I did.
Roland Orzabal, the name of the memoir, Welcome to Your Life.
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Good morning. Happy birthday, brother. And you're taking off some
kind of time next week. I guess I'll take a
vacation too. Hey, also, by the way, I got that
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job at I guess a town called Murphy Borough, Tennessee.
I guess I'm moving to Tennessee, brother. There goes the neighborhood.
God bless. Have a great week off. I'll play theater
of the minds, but if you really did get a job,
text me off the air. That is an answer to...
Two people have been praying very hard. Thank you for
the birthday wish, Jimmy Suits. I was on a golf
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course and one of the biggest bosses of all in
iHeart is on the golf course with me. And he's like, oh,
the show's going great. So tell me a little bit
about yourself. What was your favorite interview ever? And of course,
in that split second, you know, What do I tell
(19:05):
this guy? Do I impress him and say Richard Nixon?
And I only know how to be honest. So I
just looked at him and said, well, you know, I've
interviewed a lot of people. That's really hard to boil
down to one. But I'd have to say Jerry Springer.
And you should have seen the look on this guy's face.
He's probably thinking, what the hell did we hire? Jerry
(19:26):
Springer was one of the most interesting people I ever
sat down and talked to in my life. Shouldn't surprise you.
Ran Bobby Kennedy's campaign, went on to be a mayor
of Cincinnati. Television career speaks for itself. And it all
ended with him being a judge on television, which was
kind of full circle for an attorney. I mean, I
could go on and on. And then I'm thinking, if
(19:48):
you ask, and who was your second favorite? Ed might
be Roland Orzabal of Tears for Fears. Which, by the way,
he told you a little bit about his wife who
died suffered from alcoholism and died very young. His new
wife is very young. It looks just like Dana Plato.
If I'd have known that before the interview, that might
have come up. John Decker is a 30-year White House correspondent.
(20:11):
He's worked with a lot of press secretaries, including Caroline Leavitt,
who ended her reign this week in 30 years and
covered many presidents. In addition to that, he's a Supreme
Court bar attorney. And something you don't know You'd know
instantly if you saw his legs. Still great legs at
his age. A lifelong tennis player and fan and a
(20:34):
board member of the International Tennis Hall of Fame, of
which he presided in setting up the honors for this
year's Hall of Fame class, Roger Federer. I mean, John,
you're the expert, not me. But, you know, there's just
some people that are bigger than the game itself. I
still am in awe when I go to Cooperstown. I
stand there staring at the life-size Babe Ruth, and there's
(20:55):
never been another Babe Ruth. Where do we put Roger
Federer in this list? Because he may be, in his prime,
greatest I've ever seen.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Yeah, I mean, he won five U.S. Opens in a row.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
He won eight Wimbledon titles over the course of his career,
20 Grand Slams. I mean, no question about the fact
that he deserves to be in the International Tennis Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
That's where I'm speaking to you from today.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
I'm in Newport, Rhode Island, and Roger Federal will be
inducted on Saturday. We had some events associated with this
last night here in Newport. And absolutely, one of the
greatest tennis players of all time, which says a lot,
you know, given all the greats that we all know.
You talk about them often, who your heroes were growing
(21:43):
up in the 70s, McEnroe and Connors and Borg. Well,
Federer is a step above all of those people, as
great as they were.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yeah, let me see if we can put this in
some kind of perspective through your eyes of expertise. I mean,
Jimmy Conner, and I've heard this said of a lot
of people, a young John McEnroe learned the hard way
that Jimmy Conner had a lot of tennis left in him.
And nobody messed with your head more during a match
than Jimmy Conner. And he was very, very formidable. Um, right.
(22:13):
When you think of John McEnroe and you think of
the level of greatness at such an early age comes
to mind, uh, there's, you know, we could go back
to the old days. It's tough to compare those. Um,
I would say Roger Federer is your Michael Jordan, right?
He's your, um, I don't know what else to compare
him to. Um, he's definitely your Tiger Woods, right? By stats.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Tom Brady, I am told by my wife. Tom Brady,
how about that?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
You go right to goat. Right to the goat, yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
You know, look, there are arguments in the tennis world about,
you know, Roger versus Novak Djokovic versus Rafael Nadal, Rafa Nadal,
all phenomenal players. But I think that what Roger Federer
managed to do was he really managed to excite people
about tennis once again after– The people that you mentioned
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were those names that we all knew in the 70s
watching them play. And, you know, he inspired people in
terms of taking up tennis and he made it look easy.
So when you think about the great athletes of all time,
the ones that make it look so easy, you know,
the Michael Jordans and the Tiger Woods, he's right up there.
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in that category in terms of, of having an incredible
amount of talent, uh, but also doing so at least
the way it looks so effortlessly and so gracefully.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Indulge me one last one. You know, there was something
and I don't, I'm my age gives it away, but
I would make this, there was something about the seventies.
Has there been a better horse and secretariat since the seventies? Uh,
the seventies brought us some of the greatest world series matchups, Yankees, Dodgers,
Red Sox, uh, Dodgers, race car drivers, tennis players. There
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was a long lag between Borg and Connors and then
the Andre Agassi years. So when you make this reference,
brought things back. When you look back at all sports, football, basketball, baseball, hockey, boxing,
Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazier, Ken Norton, there was something freakishly
special about the 70s, wasn't there?
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Well, there was, and also, you know, our attention wasn't
divided between so many things that divides our attention right now.
So if you think about that time period, we had
three places to watch on television, NBC, ABC, and CBS.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Nothing else. And when television, sports.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
you know, dominated, it dominated in a big way. You
look at how many people in terms of the percentage
of the country were watching the Super Bowl, you know,
every year. It was exceedingly high because the options were limited.
Now our interests are divided. They go in different directions.
And yet still, you know, for the special athletes, the
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ones that really garner our attention, it shows you how
special they are. when they can still dominate the attention
of not only the American public, but the global public
at large.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Upstairs, I have two signed boxing gloves, one by Muhammad Ali,
one by Joe Frazier. I got the privilege to spend
a day with both of them. I also have a
pair of Jimmy Connors shoes autographed. I wish I had
been smart enough to get Chrissy Everett. to autograph some
shoes for me. Meeting her was one of the great thrills.
I'm just thinking, sitting on the board of International Tennis
Hall of Fame, this was a pretty short deliberation, right?
(25:50):
Roger Federer headed into the Hall of Fame today. What's coming? Oh,
by the way, let's close out. I played a montage
that was hilarious. Caroline Leavitt, you know, you and I
both put her maybe right behind Tony Snow and is
one of the best ever. as we bid her farewell,
I think she's coming back. And I think before I
shuffle off this earth, she may come back to very
(26:11):
high offices. But your take as we say goodbye to Caroline,
it was pretty sweet for a couple of years. Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
She was the voice, the face of the administration. She
represented President Trump so well in the White House briefing room,
loyal aide to the president. And at just now 29
years old, she's got a huge future ahead of her, whether,
you know, it's as a pundit with, which is what
so many decide to do after serving as the white
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house press secretary or an elective office. And she's pursued
that before. I think that she does.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
I think it's going to be the latter, you know,
as well as I do, it's going to be the latter.
Don't you think race kids for a while run for office? I,
I think, I think that's right. We saw this with
Sarah Huckabee Sanders, you know, just, lie low and look
at her now. She's the governor of Arkansas. Really impressive
what she's been able to do. Aren't you glad I
didn't mess up today by bringing up the Lake of America?
(27:09):
What's coming up today on the White House briefing room?
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Zip, zip. I'm focused on tennis for the next few days.
So I took.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
The day off.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
So nothing to promote. But I'll tell you something that
is coming up this week.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
And besides the induction of Roger Federer into the International
Tennis Hall of Fame, That's your birthday. And happy birthday
to you, Michael. Have a great birthday this coming Sunday.
I hope you get all you wish for, and I
hope the next year ahead is even better than the
last one.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
I get what I wish for, and then I get
things I didn't have the sense to wish for, like
this show and people like you. It's a pleasure. Thank
you for the birthday wish. Give our best to Roger. That,
Roger Federer, was a no-brainer. John Decker, have a great weekend.
We'll talk after the vacation. By the way, when I
get back from vacation, we have one of Charlie's angels,
Jacqueline Smith. Just, you know, if you look up beautiful
(28:03):
in the dictionary, it ought to be a picture of
Jacqueline Smith. I mean, there are people that are sexy.
There are people that are cute. There are people that
are gorgeous. There are people that are glamorous. I mean,
I could go on and on. I mean, she is beautiful.
I am interested to see. Now, I have interviewed Christy Brinkley.
I found her charming and delightful, and I loved the
Billy Joel stories. I interviewed Susan Lucci. That's the oldest
(28:26):
person that has ever wooed me into a crush inside
of 3.2 seconds. One buongiorno, and I was in love.
I was writing poetry. Let's see if Jacqueline Smith can
do that. Jacqueline Smith coming up on September 10th. She's
out with a new memoir, I Once Knew a Guy
Named Charlie. Next hour, Friday was 47, and everybody's taking them,
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and everybody's getting great results. Peptides, are they really all
that and more? Dr. Joe Gulati will have the latest
on that. I did get some emails. Can I do
this real quickly without your Mr. Timer today? Yeah, you're go.
Good head. Gary Chapman just wrote, I've been meaning to
give you a pair of my autographed shoes. He's such
a weirdo. Roger writes, I must learn how you're able
(29:11):
to suppress your ADHD during conversations. Well, I don't think
I'm ADHD. I think I'm ADD. I don't have the
hyper disorder. I do struggle with some filter issues. One
of my biggest problems is listening during a conversation. I
find myself constantly thinking of what I want to say
next instead of actually listening. Teacher, what can I do
to start improve? You'll never improve or even have the
(29:32):
leverage to battle this until you find other people more
interesting than yourself. or your search to find people more
interesting than yourself or your desire to love people more
than you love yourself. I think that's the biggest difference
between me today and me at 25 years old. I'm
actually busy about my father's business and loving others and
giving my life away, not trying to make a life
(29:53):
and impress you with it. I'm not suggesting you're doing that, Roger.
I will tell you this so that you're easier on yourself.
When you are ADD, you're usually a step ahead. My
biggest weakness is when we're having a conversation and I
know what you're going to say. You've either given me
enough clues or I know enough about you to know
your take on everything. And unless you surprise me with
(30:16):
something new, I'd rather finish your sentence and move on.
And then it makes it just remarkably easier when you're
talking to someone was trying to make about Roland. I
would have never guessed. One half of Tears for Fears
would one day at 62 fascinate me. But he did.
(30:37):
And if you missed the interview, it'll be up in
the podcast. Michael, you never know why you should never date.
You know why you should never date tennis pros. Because
love means nothing to them. I have, seriously, the craziest audience.
(31:02):
It's true that both conservatives and progressives can hear only
the news they want to hear. However, there is one
critical difference. A progressive with progressive parents can go his
whole life without hearing many conservative arguments. I will say,
I do think, and it's hard for me because I'm
on one side of this. But thanks for the email
from Akron. I do think we discuss both sides of
(31:24):
the issues. I know this show tries to. Now, because
one might be remarkably stupid and unfactual, I give you
both sides. And I do think conservatives, by and large,
do look at both sides, where the left tends to
look at only the one. One's ignorance is bliss. Might
(31:45):
you provide your listeners with both? I got several of these,
and I don't like to shy away from this. In fact,
I don't think we get enough hate email around here.
Am I the only one that thinks that? Well, I
get several from Red, but from listeners. Might you provide
your listeners with both sides of the story instead of
just ripping on Trump, trolling the Canadian prime minister? The
way you're presenting it, you're doing it just to do it.
(32:08):
There's a reason behind everything he does. Whether you like
it or not, I know. We're always playing five-dimensional chess.
Can't you negotiate with China, a friend, in a way
without making them an enemy?
Speaker 4 (32:20):
How dare you?
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Where's the slap? Thank you. I mean, the president's saying
they're one of the worst countries. We're dealing with Iran,
which is a threat to the world. And you're putting
him in that class. Come on. I wasn't born yesterday. No,
I won't. I like this. Michael, I felt for a
long time that this party was not going to work out. Logistics, security,
(32:43):
et cetera. I think it's time to put everyone out
of their misery. I know I've moved on. Well, don't
give up hope yet. I'm just saying it was a
little bit more difficult than I thought it would be.
But I'm just one of you. I don't run a country.
This I love. Stop undermining the president, you traitor! Exclamation point,
all caps. You're damn right, it's about time. No, I
(33:07):
think it's petty and stupid. I'm sorry. And I think
I can have a position and say, one side just
starting calling something by a different name doesn't get us
any further. We're in the midst of a housing crisis,
an automobile crisis. We have enemies and we have friends
and I understand it's hard. We've been taken advantage of
(33:29):
for a long time. And some of these people shouldn't
be allowed to get away with it. But when you
start renaming things to spite a friend, no, I don't
think that's productive. And I don't think I'm giving one side.
And I don't think I'm a traitor. I think I'm
being quite reasonable. Renaming the lake is petty, but it's
also very effective because it sticks it to the libs.
(33:49):
Their heads are ready to explode. This is what he
likes to do. And he has nothing else because Congress
is dead wood. We'll get your talkbacks on this as well.
How petty or how stupid? We should be solving the economy,
solving the voting crisis, solving the poverty and crime crisis,
(34:11):
solving the home crisis and car crisis, and now we're
renaming another body of water. And I'll just end with this.
If you're going to give it a name, You already
did Gulf of America. Now this is Lake of America.
How about something different? I wanted Lake of Donna. Top
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Happy birthday.
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Happy birthday, dear Michael.
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Happy birthday to you.
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Isn't that disgusting? What is it like? Happy birthday, Michael.
Thank you, Rachel. What's it like to have such a voice?
All I've ever wanted to do was be able to sing.
I open my mouth and birds hide. Rachel, is there
a better thrill than Rachel's Christmas song or birthday song
every year? What a blessing to use your talent. You
(36:38):
do a great impersonation of Neil Diamond. I do. I
really enjoy that.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
I do do Neil Diamond.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Thank you. I'm glad. The State Department says 90 Americans
are among the 1,500 still missing in Nepal from the
flash flooding. 470 are now dead. The president has renamed
Lake Ontario Lake America, and I'm a traitor for thinking
it's petty. And a top Iranian official is denying a
report regarding a plot to assassinate Barron Trump. And it
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looks like Ohio and Nevada are going to see who
plays for the Little League World Series. That'll be tomorrow
at 2.30 on ABC. Coming up, Friday with 47 and Dr.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
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We're in this together. This is your morning show with
Michael DelGiorno. Well, not to be dramatic, but when you're
watching these images from Nepal, all you can really do
is pray. There's nothing we can do from here. It's
horrific to watch. But there is a God, and there
are rescue workers, and he can help them find the
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1,500 missing, 90 of which might be Americans. National correspondent
Rory O'Neill is here. We talked about this, Rory. It
looks like a movie set. It looks like special effects,
but this is real life.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
And it's just an absolute tragedy. The death toll confirmed
is now well over 500. And as you said, that
number is certainly going to climb. The number missing is
also climbing as well, as this really is a major
tourism destination. Don't forget, a lot of people are there
for adventure travel to get to Mount Everest or to
get to the base camp, at least, of Mount Everest
(01:17):
as well. Also, some religious pilgrimages were happening in the
area at the time.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
So this is just awful on top of awful. I
never know whether to say what are the odds of
this or is this by plan. We're following a tropical storm.
We just lost Dolly Parton. The tropical storm is Dolly.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah, now that name was chosen seven years ago, believe
it or not. So it is the fact that this
storm has formed is no connection really with Dolly Parton
getting the name.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
But it's the fourth name. They do this alphabetically. We've
gone through A, B, and C.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
And yesterday, the D storm formed, and it's Dolly Parton.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
And it's Dolly, rather.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Not necessarily a name for the singer. So, yeah, it
is just Tropical Storm Dolly. There is some dry air
moving into the system, so it really is going to
start to collapse. It might be a depression by the
time it hits Puerto Rico over the weekend. So it
is weakening, but just remarkable that we got the formation
of Tropical Storm Dolly days after her death.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
If you've been watching any of the craziness online, the
numerical craziness, tying Dolly to the end of times, wait
till they hear her. A hurricane named seven years ago
happens to have her name. In the third hour, Friday
with 47, of course, a visit with Dr. Joe Gulati.
But Rory's going to be back. We're going to talk
about that Lindsay Clancy verdict. I believe it's in the
(02:38):
hands of the jury. Could be as soon as today.
One half of the duo and co-creator of Tears for Fears,
Roland Orzebal, out with a new memoir called Welcome to
Your Life. Well, welcome to our show, Roland. Nice to
meet you, too. Listen, I got to tell you one
of the most interesting things about telling people I was
going to visit with you. And I think for most
(03:00):
people listening, Tears for Fears is shout. Everybody rules the world.
But I have found your real fans. They bring up
much different titles. You're out with a new memoir, Welcome
to Your Life. It tells the story of you and
Kurt and the formation of the band. There's so many stories.
interesting stories to tell. And the music is still so
(03:20):
much a part of people's lives. So we're excited to
go through this with you. I think probably the one
thing I learned, I didn't know that Everybody Wants to
Rule the World almost had a different title. It did.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
It was a song that I came up with the
same month that I came up with Shout and a
few others that ended up on the Big Chair album.
But I wasn't sure about it at all because it
wasn't like the previous material. of The Hurting, which was
darker and more emotional. So this was very light. And
(03:53):
it was originally called Everybody Wants to Go to War,
which is a very negative, grubby title. I was kind
of sitting on the fence about it, but my wife,
my late wife, Caroline, absolutely loved it. And so I
took it into the studio and played it to Kurt, Chris, Hughes,
our producer, and Ian Stanley, our keyboard player, and they
(04:15):
loved it. So we tried out.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
You know, the title of the memoir is a lyric
from that song, Welcome to Your Life. What a great,
who came up with that line? I did. Yeah, that's,
I mean, it's a brilliant lyric. I thought it was,
it was ingenious. I mean, America and the world hasn't
changed that much. I mean, we've been divided before. We
seem to be divided more. at all time levels right now.
(04:40):
But that time, the influence of the 60s and the
Vietnam War and then the Cold War, you had a
view of that even from Europe. And that was a
brilliant way to get around such a divisive title, just
avoid it altogether. And I think people have been singing
that song for 40 years and had no idea where
the inspiration came from. I know, that's true.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I mean, we were all worried at the time about
the Cold War very much. Russia against America. You know,
and things haven't changed. They've become more subtle. We're now
using drones instead of the threat of nuclear weapons, but
it's still pretty horrible.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Everybody wants to rule the world. I mean, just a,
you know, perfect mix, instrumentation mixed with great lyric, great vocal.
I mean, just the recipe. I would think by numbers,
I didn't do this research before visiting you, but that
and Shout were the two biggest. But I think everybody
wants to rule the world, the biggest of them all, right?
Speaker 3 (05:37):
It's become so over the years, you know, because of streaming,
we now have, I guess, what we can call a
mega hit at the point where it's risen exponentially. higher
than any other song in our catalog, even though when
we play live, people can hear all of those songs and,
(05:57):
you know, they sound fantastic. Everybody Wants to Rule the
World is a song I don't think is ever going
to go away.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Fingers crossed. Well, yeah, no, it'll outlive both of us.
Dennis Miller also took it to a new level, making
it the theme of his television and radio show as well.
Roland Orzabal is joining us, co-founder, half the duo of
Tears for Fears. This really is a friendship story too,
not just two teenagers who, by the way, I love
Thin Lizzy. I like Blue Oyster Cult. I never made
(06:27):
a hit song, but you and Kurt get together. This
is kind of the story of your meeting, early music,
eventual breakup. now reuniting it really is a very personal
memoir isn't.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
It it's very personal you know it's a story of
tears for fears um from the horse's mouth which i
don't think has ever been told by an author uh
and so it's it's the intimate detail from someone um
shoot uh blowing my own trumpet uh who has a
very very good memory exactly so yeah it's a story
(07:01):
of me and kurt and um This is also the
story of my early childhood, which was very strange because
my parents ran an entertainment agency from our council house
in England.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Oh, my gosh.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
It's a story of what happened to me later in
life with my late wife and her alcoholism. It's not
a very nice story, but it also has an underlying
layer of astrology which can explain the highs and lows
and the patterns involved in my life.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
If I were to ask the young Roland, what does
welcome to your life mean compared to the Roland now
who has lived a lot of that life, but it's
still the same question. Welcome to your life, Roland, and
welcome to your memoir as we're all reading it. How
different would your views be? Well, I just wrote it
because I was looking for lyrics. I had one night
(07:57):
in Germany, um, as we were mixing, and I had
one night to come up with lyrics, so I didn't
think about it too much. And it seemed like a good,
a really strong opening line, but it's only now. Maybe
I knew I was going to write a book called
Welcome to Your Life. Maybe that's what it was all about.
(08:19):
But when it came to, when it was suggested to
me that I write a memoir, I knew it was
the title immediately. And there's an element, I'm hoping there's
an element of this book, which is kind of like
a self-help book. The reason is it's called Welcome to
Your Life and not Welcome to My Life. You know,
(08:41):
that begs the question, Roland Orzabal joining us, one half
of Tears for Fears, bring us the memoir, Welcome to
Your Life. You know, life, we end up where we
are by the series of choices we make. I have
a friend, David Zanotti, who always says you've got to
get 100 years behind someone's eyes to really understand them.
You speak to your parents, who were, by the way,
influenced and shaped by their parents. That's how you get
(09:03):
to 100 years. But it does beg the question, regrets,
musical regrets, relationship regrets, life regrets. How much of that
is a part of Welcome to Your Life?
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Well, I don't put them in, you know, regrets. I mean,
because I do wonder... I really seriously wonder philosophically whether
we actually have a choice. Because when you look at
the past, it's etched in stone. And I'm really not sure.
But regrets, of course. I wish I'd flossed.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Okay, that's the line of the day.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
I wish I'd bought shares in Apple. Come on.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Oh. You know what? It's so surreal to me. I
used to play video games in the arcade while your
music was playing. You know, you've kind of become the
soundtrack of all of our lives. And what this memoir
is going to give us is a blueprint of what
was happening in that inspired the writing of those songs,
(10:06):
what was happening in your life during those songs, what
happened in your life since we haven't, you know, been
sharing time together. And yeah, I think the big takeaway
is I don't believe in regrets either, because you can't
go back. You know, we don't get a redo. And really,
quite frankly, most of the things, you know, I don't know,
I guess my, I wouldn't call it a regret, my
(10:26):
dumbest career move was was at 20 something years old,
I had a chance to go run WLS in Chicago.
And I was just thinking, well, I love Chicago. I
love WLS, but none of the people I grew up
listening to still work there. It's freezing. I'd be in
traffic two hours a day. I got a pretty good
life where I am. And I said, no, now from
a career path, that was a dumb thing to do.
But you don't really have regrets, right? Because even our
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mistakes shape us and make us what we are. And
I don't think anybody wants to change what we are, right?
It's true.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
I mean, if I look back, and I had the
chance to move the dial somewhat at certain times, I
would have done that, and it would have made my
career much better and much easier. But the problem is,
at some point, your personal life and the world inside
completely takes precedent. And I think that, you know, when
(11:20):
I look back now, yes, there are definitely things I
would have done differently. But I'm not sure if the
overall pattern and the overall result would have changed that much.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Well, there is no tears for fears unless you and
Kurt are teenage friends. There is no breakup if working
together doesn't create strains and life doesn't create strains. And
guess what? The reunion isn't what it is if you
don't have the breakup. So, I mean, really, is it
worth our time to dissect? Although I should say, as
much as I always loved the name Tears for Fears,
(11:54):
I never really thought about Tears for Fears as a name.
Kind of like being smart enough not to call everybody
wants to go to war versus everybody wants to rule
the world. Tears for Fears, a psychology term. So I
am talking to a psychologist slash astrologist. I'm sure you've
overthought all of this. How did you come up with
a name? I mean, what teenagers thinking about psychology terms?
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Yeah, I mean, this is the thing that sets us apart.
I mean, there is a chapter in the book which
explains in depth what we were inspired by and the
life I chose to follow. It's called A Process of Becoming.
So Kurt and I were very much influenced by a
(12:39):
Californian psychologist called Arthur Janoff. And he wrote a book
called The Primal Scream. And John Lennon made it famous many,
many years ago. And we embraced the theory.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
It was.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Pretty much about sort of the child being born a
blank slate. The child is a victim to his parents.
And whatever they did created our character. That was what
I believed at the time. And primal therapy, which is
what it was called, was very cathartic. There was a
(13:20):
lot of emotion involved in the therapy. It's not a
talking cure like psychoanalysis, and it's not like modern psychotherapy
at all. It's much more of an emotional bloodbath. So
that's what inspired us in the beginning, especially the first album,
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The Hurting.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
I guess I was the only one who was thinking
about girls and being a Major League Baseball player. Closing
moments with Roland Orzabal, a co-founder, half the duo of
Tears for Fears, out with a new memoir, Welcome to
Your Life. I think this is going to sound so
radio host-ish, but... If you love their music, you're going
to love the stories behind them and what created them,
(14:04):
who wrote it. You know, I want to end full circle.
I talked about, I would have brought up Naturally Shout,
Everybody Wants to Rule the World. I must have heard
Mad World as more people's favorite song than that when
talking about I'm just going to visit with you. And
I'm thinking to myself, what were you, 19 when you
wrote that? Yeah, it was. Yeah, incredible, eh? I mean,
(14:26):
God created a very thoughtful young man in England who
created some really thoughtful music. What are you hoping we
take away from this memoir? Because I'm with you. I
think there's a lot of real life in this beyond music. Yeah,
I think so. I mean, you know, my life, like
a lot of people's, has had ups and downs and
(14:47):
triumphs and tragedies. And I'm hoping... that people will read
it and understand part of themselves, and I'm hoping they
will read it and see that there is an underlying
pattern to everyone's life, even if there may not be
(15:08):
someone up there controlling us as puppets, may not be,
may be simply organic, but there is a series of
principles and patterns behind every life Yeah, and I was
having this conversation yesterday with my cousin, and every generation
has the opportunity to break those cycles and create new ones.
(15:28):
That's what I'm hoping this book allows people to see
a little bit more clearly. That's a nice way of
putting it. Yeah, I just thought, you know, welcome to
your life. What a great way to start an iconic song.
What a great song. So many great songs. So great
to hear these stories. I encourage everybody to get Welcome
to Your Life. It is a memoir of Roland Orzabal
(15:50):
and the Tears for Fears lives behind the music and stories.
I know they're going to love it. I learned a
lot and I enjoyed every second of it. Roland, thank
you so much for your time. Thank you. You know,
you'll hear something in the background during that interview if
you listen closely and it's my pen doing that. Look,
I'm aware I have attention deficit disorder. I don't think
(16:12):
that Roland and I have the same eternal beliefs necessarily
that But that's a thoughtful guy. And I found it
fascinating and interesting. If you're hearing that click, that's because
I'm not thinking about what to say next. I'm in
the moment. And this guy has me captivated. I hope
you found that as much must-hear radio as I did.
Roland Orzabal, the name of the memoir, Welcome to Your Life.
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vacation too. Hey, also, by the way, I got that
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job at I guess a town called Murphy Borough, Tennessee.
I guess I'm moving to Tennessee, brother. There goes the neighborhood.
God bless. Have a great week off. I'll play theater
of the minds, but if you really did get a job,
text me off the air. That is an answer to...
Two people have been praying very hard. Thank you for
the birthday wish, Jimmy Suits. I was on a golf
(18:44):
course and one of the biggest bosses of all in
iHeart is on the golf course with me. And he's like, oh,
the show's going great. So tell me a little bit
about yourself. What was your favorite interview ever? And of course,
in that split second, you know, What do I tell
(19:05):
this guy? Do I impress him and say Richard Nixon?
And I only know how to be honest. So I
just looked at him and said, well, you know, I've
interviewed a lot of people. That's really hard to boil
down to one. But I'd have to say Jerry Springer.
And you should have seen the look on this guy's face.
He's probably thinking, what the hell did we hire? Jerry
(19:26):
Springer was one of the most interesting people I ever
sat down and talked to in my life. Shouldn't surprise you.
Ran Bobby Kennedy's campaign, went on to be a mayor
of Cincinnati. Television career speaks for itself. And it all
ended with him being a judge on television, which was
kind of full circle for an attorney. I mean, I
could go on and on. And then I'm thinking, if
(19:48):
you ask, and who was your second favorite? Ed might
be Roland Orzabal of Tears for Fears. Which, by the way,
he told you a little bit about his wife who
died suffered from alcoholism and died very young. His new
wife is very young. It looks just like Dana Plato.
If I'd have known that before the interview, that might
have come up. John Decker is a 30-year White House correspondent.
(20:11):
He's worked with a lot of press secretaries, including Caroline Leavitt,
who ended her reign this week in 30 years and
covered many presidents. In addition to that, he's a Supreme
Court bar attorney. And something you don't know You'd know
instantly if you saw his legs. Still great legs at
his age. A lifelong tennis player and fan and a
(20:34):
board member of the International Tennis Hall of Fame, of
which he presided in setting up the honors for this
year's Hall of Fame class, Roger Federer. I mean, John,
you're the expert, not me. But, you know, there's just
some people that are bigger than the game itself. I
still am in awe when I go to Cooperstown. I
stand there staring at the life-size Babe Ruth, and there's
(20:55):
never been another Babe Ruth. Where do we put Roger
Federer in this list? Because he may be, in his prime,
greatest I've ever seen.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Yeah, I mean, he won five U.S. Opens in a row.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
He won eight Wimbledon titles over the course of his career,
20 Grand Slams. I mean, no question about the fact
that he deserves to be in the International Tennis Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
That's where I'm speaking to you from today.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
I'm in Newport, Rhode Island, and Roger Federal will be
inducted on Saturday. We had some events associated with this
last night here in Newport. And absolutely, one of the
greatest tennis players of all time, which says a lot,
you know, given all the greats that we all know.
You talk about them often, who your heroes were growing
(21:43):
up in the 70s, McEnroe and Connors and Borg. Well,
Federer is a step above all of those people, as
great as they were.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yeah, let me see if we can put this in
some kind of perspective through your eyes of expertise. I mean,
Jimmy Conner, and I've heard this said of a lot
of people, a young John McEnroe learned the hard way
that Jimmy Conner had a lot of tennis left in him.
And nobody messed with your head more during a match
than Jimmy Conner. And he was very, very formidable. Um, right.
(22:13):
When you think of John McEnroe and you think of
the level of greatness at such an early age comes
to mind, uh, there's, you know, we could go back
to the old days. It's tough to compare those. Um,
I would say Roger Federer is your Michael Jordan, right?
He's your, um, I don't know what else to compare
him to. Um, he's definitely your Tiger Woods, right? By stats.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Tom Brady, I am told by my wife. Tom Brady,
how about that?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
You go right to goat. Right to the goat, yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
You know, look, there are arguments in the tennis world about,
you know, Roger versus Novak Djokovic versus Rafael Nadal, Rafa Nadal,
all phenomenal players. But I think that what Roger Federer
managed to do was he really managed to excite people
about tennis once again after– The people that you mentioned
(23:09):
were those names that we all knew in the 70s
watching them play. And, you know, he inspired people in
terms of taking up tennis and he made it look easy.
So when you think about the great athletes of all time,
the ones that make it look so easy, you know,
the Michael Jordans and the Tiger Woods, he's right up there.
(23:34):
in that category in terms of, of having an incredible
amount of talent, uh, but also doing so at least
the way it looks so effortlessly and so gracefully.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Indulge me one last one. You know, there was something
and I don't, I'm my age gives it away, but
I would make this, there was something about the seventies.
Has there been a better horse and secretariat since the seventies? Uh,
the seventies brought us some of the greatest world series matchups, Yankees, Dodgers,
Red Sox, uh, Dodgers, race car drivers, tennis players. There
(24:08):
was a long lag between Borg and Connors and then
the Andre Agassi years. So when you make this reference,
brought things back. When you look back at all sports, football, basketball, baseball, hockey, boxing,
Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazier, Ken Norton, there was something freakishly
special about the 70s, wasn't there?
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Well, there was, and also, you know, our attention wasn't
divided between so many things that divides our attention right now.
So if you think about that time period, we had
three places to watch on television, NBC, ABC, and CBS.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Nothing else. And when television, sports.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
you know, dominated, it dominated in a big way. You
look at how many people in terms of the percentage
of the country were watching the Super Bowl, you know,
every year. It was exceedingly high because the options were limited.
Now our interests are divided. They go in different directions.
And yet still, you know, for the special athletes, the
(25:15):
ones that really garner our attention, it shows you how
special they are. when they can still dominate the attention
of not only the American public, but the global public
at large.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Upstairs, I have two signed boxing gloves, one by Muhammad Ali,
one by Joe Frazier. I got the privilege to spend
a day with both of them. I also have a
pair of Jimmy Connors shoes autographed. I wish I had
been smart enough to get Chrissy Everett. to autograph some
shoes for me. Meeting her was one of the great thrills.
I'm just thinking, sitting on the board of International Tennis
Hall of Fame, this was a pretty short deliberation, right?
(25:50):
Roger Federer headed into the Hall of Fame today. What's coming? Oh,
by the way, let's close out. I played a montage
that was hilarious. Caroline Leavitt, you know, you and I
both put her maybe right behind Tony Snow and is
one of the best ever. as we bid her farewell,
I think she's coming back. And I think before I
shuffle off this earth, she may come back to very
(26:11):
high offices. But your take as we say goodbye to Caroline,
it was pretty sweet for a couple of years. Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
She was the voice, the face of the administration. She
represented President Trump so well in the White House briefing room,
loyal aide to the president. And at just now 29
years old, she's got a huge future ahead of her, whether,
you know, it's as a pundit with, which is what
so many decide to do after serving as the white
(26:41):
house press secretary or an elective office. And she's pursued
that before. I think that she does.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
I think it's going to be the latter, you know,
as well as I do, it's going to be the latter.
Don't you think race kids for a while run for office? I,
I think, I think that's right. We saw this with
Sarah Huckabee Sanders, you know, just, lie low and look
at her now. She's the governor of Arkansas. Really impressive
what she's been able to do. Aren't you glad I
didn't mess up today by bringing up the Lake of America?
(27:09):
What's coming up today on the White House briefing room?
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Zip, zip. I'm focused on tennis for the next few days.
So I took.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
The day off.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
So nothing to promote. But I'll tell you something that
is coming up this week.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
And besides the induction of Roger Federer into the International
Tennis Hall of Fame, That's your birthday. And happy birthday
to you, Michael. Have a great birthday this coming Sunday.
I hope you get all you wish for, and I
hope the next year ahead is even better than the
last one.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
I get what I wish for, and then I get
things I didn't have the sense to wish for, like
this show and people like you. It's a pleasure. Thank
you for the birthday wish. Give our best to Roger. That,
Roger Federer, was a no-brainer. John Decker, have a great weekend.
We'll talk after the vacation. By the way, when I
get back from vacation, we have one of Charlie's angels,
Jacqueline Smith. Just, you know, if you look up beautiful
(28:03):
in the dictionary, it ought to be a picture of
Jacqueline Smith. I mean, there are people that are sexy.
There are people that are cute. There are people that
are gorgeous. There are people that are glamorous. I mean,
I could go on and on. I mean, she is beautiful.
I am interested to see. Now, I have interviewed Christy Brinkley.
I found her charming and delightful, and I loved the
Billy Joel stories. I interviewed Susan Lucci. That's the oldest
(28:26):
person that has ever wooed me into a crush inside
of 3.2 seconds. One buongiorno, and I was in love.
I was writing poetry. Let's see if Jacqueline Smith can
do that. Jacqueline Smith coming up on September 10th. She's
out with a new memoir, I Once Knew a Guy
Named Charlie. Next hour, Friday was 47, and everybody's taking them,
(28:46):
and everybody's getting great results. Peptides, are they really all
that and more? Dr. Joe Gulati will have the latest
on that. I did get some emails. Can I do
this real quickly without your Mr. Timer today? Yeah, you're go.
Good head. Gary Chapman just wrote, I've been meaning to
give you a pair of my autographed shoes. He's such
a weirdo. Roger writes, I must learn how you're able
(29:11):
to suppress your ADHD during conversations. Well, I don't think
I'm ADHD. I think I'm ADD. I don't have the
hyper disorder. I do struggle with some filter issues. One
of my biggest problems is listening during a conversation. I
find myself constantly thinking of what I want to say
next instead of actually listening. Teacher, what can I do
to start improve? You'll never improve or even have the
(29:32):
leverage to battle this until you find other people more
interesting than yourself. or your search to find people more
interesting than yourself or your desire to love people more
than you love yourself. I think that's the biggest difference
between me today and me at 25 years old. I'm
actually busy about my father's business and loving others and
giving my life away, not trying to make a life
(29:53):
and impress you with it. I'm not suggesting you're doing that, Roger.
I will tell you this so that you're easier on yourself.
When you are ADD, you're usually a step ahead. My
biggest weakness is when we're having a conversation and I
know what you're going to say. You've either given me
enough clues or I know enough about you to know
your take on everything. And unless you surprise me with
(30:16):
something new, I'd rather finish your sentence and move on.
And then it makes it just remarkably easier when you're
talking to someone was trying to make about Roland. I
would have never guessed. One half of Tears for Fears
would one day at 62 fascinate me. But he did.
(30:37):
And if you missed the interview, it'll be up in
the podcast. Michael, you never know why you should never date.
You know why you should never date tennis pros. Because
love means nothing to them. I have, seriously, the craziest audience.
(31:02):
It's true that both conservatives and progressives can hear only
the news they want to hear. However, there is one
critical difference. A progressive with progressive parents can go his
whole life without hearing many conservative arguments. I will say,
I do think, and it's hard for me because I'm
on one side of this. But thanks for the email
from Akron. I do think we discuss both sides of
(31:24):
the issues. I know this show tries to. Now, because
one might be remarkably stupid and unfactual, I give you
both sides. And I do think conservatives, by and large,
do look at both sides, where the left tends to
look at only the one. One's ignorance is bliss. Might
(31:45):
you provide your listeners with both? I got several of these,
and I don't like to shy away from this. In fact,
I don't think we get enough hate email around here.
Am I the only one that thinks that? Well, I
get several from Red, but from listeners. Might you provide
your listeners with both sides of the story instead of
just ripping on Trump, trolling the Canadian prime minister? The
way you're presenting it, you're doing it just to do it.
(32:08):
There's a reason behind everything he does. Whether you like
it or not, I know. We're always playing five-dimensional chess.
Can't you negotiate with China, a friend, in a way
without making them an enemy?
Speaker 4 (32:20):
How dare you?
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Where's the slap? Thank you. I mean, the president's saying
they're one of the worst countries. We're dealing with Iran,
which is a threat to the world. And you're putting
him in that class. Come on. I wasn't born yesterday. No,
I won't. I like this. Michael, I felt for a
long time that this party was not going to work out. Logistics, security,
(32:43):
et cetera. I think it's time to put everyone out
of their misery. I know I've moved on. Well, don't
give up hope yet. I'm just saying it was a
little bit more difficult than I thought it would be.
But I'm just one of you. I don't run a country.
This I love. Stop undermining the president, you traitor! Exclamation point,
all caps. You're damn right, it's about time. No, I
(33:07):
think it's petty and stupid. I'm sorry. And I think
I can have a position and say, one side just
starting calling something by a different name doesn't get us
any further. We're in the midst of a housing crisis,
an automobile crisis. We have enemies and we have friends
and I understand it's hard. We've been taken advantage of
(33:29):
for a long time. And some of these people shouldn't
be allowed to get away with it. But when you
start renaming things to spite a friend, no, I don't
think that's productive. And I don't think I'm giving one side.
And I don't think I'm a traitor. I think I'm
being quite reasonable. Renaming the lake is petty, but it's
also very effective because it sticks it to the libs.
(33:49):
Their heads are ready to explode. This is what he
likes to do. And he has nothing else because Congress
is dead wood. We'll get your talkbacks on this as well.
How petty or how stupid? We should be solving the economy,
solving the voting crisis, solving the poverty and crime crisis,
(34:11):
solving the home crisis and car crisis, and now we're
renaming another body of water. And I'll just end with this.
If you're going to give it a name, You already
did Gulf of America. Now this is Lake of America.
How about something different? I wanted Lake of Donna. Top
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(35:59):
Love it.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
Happy birthday.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Happy birthday, dear Michael.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Happy birthday to you.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Isn't that disgusting? What is it like? Happy birthday, Michael.
Thank you, Rachel. What's it like to have such a voice?
All I've ever wanted to do was be able to sing.
I open my mouth and birds hide. Rachel, is there
a better thrill than Rachel's Christmas song or birthday song
every year? What a blessing to use your talent. You
(36:38):
do a great impersonation of Neil Diamond. I do. I
really enjoy that.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
I do do Neil Diamond.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Thank you. I'm glad. The State Department says 90 Americans
are among the 1,500 still missing in Nepal from the
flash flooding. 470 are now dead. The president has renamed
Lake Ontario Lake America, and I'm a traitor for thinking
it's petty. And a top Iranian official is denying a
report regarding a plot to assassinate Barron Trump. And it
(37:05):
looks like Ohio and Nevada are going to see who
plays for the Little League World Series. That'll be tomorrow
at 2.30 on ABC. Coming up, Friday with 47 and Dr.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Joe.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Don't move. We're all in this together.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
This is your morning show with Michael DelGiorno.
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