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Speaker 1 (01:13):
All right, we're having a little 9-11 moment of our
own here. All right, you got me back, I hope.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
All right, we're remembering 9-11 25 years later, and we
keep emphasizing the moment.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
You had to live it. Listen.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
It looked like the plane was aiming towards the building.
Speaker 6 (01:33):
Transmit a third alarm.
Speaker 7 (01:35):
We're at the staging area at Vesey and West Street.
Have the third alarm assignment go into that area.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Set the alarm assignment report.
Speaker 8 (01:47):
I live on Staten Island and I could see the
Royal Trade Center. I came in by ferry and tried
to help and do whatever I could do. I knew
that it would be overwhelming and I knew that thousands
of people would perish that day. It was hard to
comprehend surreal, if that's the correct word.
Speaker 9 (02:05):
The people who knocked these buildings down will hear all
of us soon. Everybody who is here, thank you for
your hard work. Thank you for making the nation proud
and may God bless America.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Just some of the sounds 25 years ago, a time
of great horror, a time of great uncertainty and not
knowing what was next and expecting something next. Also a
time of great unity and resolve. That all gets lost
if you didn't live it in real time. Rory O'Neill,
our national correspondent, is here. Rory, I know one of
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the things that we're looking at today is how some 30%
now of the population, what they know about 9-11, they've
either learned online or in a classroom or watching television.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
They didn't live it. That's a big difference. It is.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
And even the teachers who are teaching the kids may
not have lived through it. Even this morning, I was
seeing so many never forget or always remember. I think
we need to change that messaging to always teach because
if a third of us don't didn't really experience it.
And there are so many layers to what was happening
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that day. I love some of the people leaving those
messages about the fear and confusion of that day that
I think is often lost, especially when you think, because
it was encapsulated, right? As you look at it now,
you're like, okay, those were the events of the day,
four planes, all this happened, terrible thing.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
But at the time, was it four? Was it 40?
Was it all over the country?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
What was next? Was this a series? There was so
much fear associated with that day. I think that's often
lost in the translation and teaching of it. And I
think it was you and I that talked about this
earlier in the week. We look back at JFK's assassination
that we weren't alive for. And what's lost in that
is nobody thought that was the end. Everybody thought that
was the beginning, the decapitation of the president. That's why
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they went to such lengths to protect Johnson and get
him to take the oath of office and get him
out of Dallas. People were expecting an attack from Russia
or an invasion. And that's lost in looking back if
you didn't live it. 9-11, there was nowhere to rest
your eyes. And just as You were getting used to
a building being on fire. The next building was hit.
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Then the Pentagon was hit. Then one building fell. Then
the next building fell. Then you hear about a plane.
You wondered how many other planes and all planes were
removed from the sky. You wonder what was coming later today.
Then no sooner was that happening, you were seeing the
people with signs looking for their loved ones. I mean,
it was just the most horrific, uncertain, saddest day ever.
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And at some point now, 25 years later, You don't
want a victim mentality and you certainly don't want to
just remember you got to move on to honor. And
hopefully that's today's another renewed opportunity to do that.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Go beyond that and honor.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
I think it's also interesting and I appreciate that they're
adding this seventh moment of silence to acknowledge all the
people who have died as a result of illnesses associated
with it or or the fact that maybe they died
from the injuries years later. No, I think that's that's
an appropriate tribute for a very important segment of this story.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
National correspondent Rory O'Neill joining us this morning. And speaking
of that, 25 years after 9-11, cancer, other health concerns
are accelerating for those who were in and around ground
zero in Manhattan.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Our Dr.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Joe Gulati is here with an update on why these
environmental issues are now just coming to light. In fact,
I think, Joe, it was Tuesday or Monday we had
yet another death related to the circumstances of being around
ground zero.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
It's still happening.
Speaker 7 (05:45):
Yeah, you know, Michael, thanks for having me on on
this really solemn day.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
But, you know, I think what we're learning with all the.
Speaker 7 (05:54):
Following of all the first responders and then the survivors,
all the people that lived in the neighborhood, is that
there's this second wave of cancer that we're seeing.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
And a lot of it has to do just with
how the body works.
Speaker 7 (06:08):
So Cancer has a long latency, meaning it takes a
long time for it to develop.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
It could be 20, 30 years.
Speaker 7 (06:17):
And so now the number of survivors that are seeking
cancer treatment has tripled in just the last five years.
So I believe that we're going to see an accelerated
presentation of cancer. It's not just sort of dribbling along
year by year. It's on an accelerated course. And the
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cancers that we're seeing certainly are skin cancer. We're seeing
lung cancer in non-smokers and more aggressive strains of colon cancer,
prostate cancer, and breast cancer. So this is a story
that's just not done yet.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Yeah, I almost have to ask you. So why all
of a sudden in the last five years? I mean,
I know people are going to be thinking COVID.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
And vaccines.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
So I'll come right out and say that out loud.
But medically, what are we looking at and why now?
Speaker 7 (07:11):
Well, I think what it is, so the injuries took
place at the time of the exposure, 25 years ago,
20 years ago, whatever it may be. But it takes
the body years for these cancers to develop, the damage
to the DNA, the damage to the immune system. And
it's just the natural history for these cancers to, in
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a sense, percolate for all of these years until finally
you get to that crossover point where cancer is developing.
You know, the one thing I was thinking about is
Agent Orange, which a lot of people may not remember
with Vietnam. Back, I mean, that took place in the 60s,
but we were not seeing all these weird cancers until
the 90s and 2000s.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
And so, again, I think it's the same process.
Speaker 7 (07:57):
You're exposed to a toxin of some kind, and it's
just going to take 20, 30, 40 years before it
comes to the symptomatic clinical point.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
So how much worse does it get?
Speaker 7 (08:13):
I mean, well, you know, I don't you know, I
don't know. And I have a feeling it's probably going
to get worse. But again, I look at it as
so many of the survivors that today, 25 years later,
do not have cancer, but hanging over their head. Not
only do they have to live with the PTSD and
the suffering of lost friends, colleagues and co-workers. Now they
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have to get up every day, look in the mirror
and say, is today the day I'm going to have
a lump in the breast? Is today the day I
start coughing? Is today the day I start losing weight
and having some other illness? So that's almost like a
built-in torture to say, when is that second shoe going
to fall off?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
It's just really, really tough.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
Yeah, we've talked about the sacrifice of the first responders,
those that went up stairwells, not down them, who lost
their life on that day. And then those in and
around serving for the days and weeks and months after
who are now having these cancers arrive. Symptoms or screening
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or is there anything they can do besides look in
the mirror and wonder? Yeah, well, if you are enrolled
in the World Trade Center, sort of this medical surveillance,
you are going for regular blood work, you're going for
physical exams, pulmonary function testing, and various CAT scans or MRIs,
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depending on the situation. I know that my two brother-in-laws,
my wife's Two brothers were New York City Fire Department,
and they were there during all of that.
Speaker 7 (09:46):
And they're undergoing screening. Unfortunately, one developed prostate cancer. One
developed ulcerative colitis out of nowhere.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
So you'd have to think. And they were on in
and around the area. area for weeks and weeks and weeks.
Speaker 7 (10:03):
And so I think for the most part, the people
that are enrolled in the World Trade Center health surveillance,
they are getting the screening that they need.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
Yeah, and this is prolonged exposure, not just those that
were covered in the cloud shortly after on the ground?
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Yeah, that's a good question.
Speaker 7 (10:24):
I would think like any of these toxic exposures, whatever
the situation is, the more time, and they're actually looking
at this, the more time that you were on the mound,
the more time you were exposed, the greater the chance.
If you were there just on 9-11 and you lived
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in Topeka, Kansas, and you went home the next day,
you're fine. But you're probably at a much lower risk
than those that were there for days and months, literally
not only inhaling the dust, but the toxicity and the
toxins in all of the smoke, the burning rubble that
went on for weeks. Uh, that was sort of like
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a double hit. You inhaled all this bad stuff, but
then you had to smoke for, for days and days
and days. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
One of my listeners sent an email I'm going to
share with everyone, but his pastors were down there at
ground zero for the length of rescue and recovery to
make sure that everyone got last rights as they were found.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
That's a long-term exposure.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
And as you can see, this is why we're adding
an extra second of silence today. for all those who
have lost their life since 9-11.
Speaker 10 (11:35):
Dr.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Joe Gulati is author of the book, Eating Yourself Sick.
His website is drjogulati.com and don't miss, and my wife
never does, the Dr. Joe Gulati podcast. It's available on
Apple and all podcast platforms. On this, the 25th anniversary
of 9-11, thanks, Dr. Joe, for explaining what some of
these responders are facing.
Speaker 7 (11:54):
Oh, yes.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
God bless everybody. God bless the country. Thank you, Michael.
God bless you, Dr. Joe Gulati.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
And again, you know, it's, You think in your mind,
firefighters and police, and boy, do I get it because
I watched it in real time. But there were a
lot of other people in and around these areas doing
whatever it took to help. And even people of the
cloth that are all going to be susceptible to this.
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Speaker 4 (13:28):
This is your morning show with Michael Del Giorno. It's
your morning show with Michael Del Giorno.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Hard to believe it's been 25 years already.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
But what's even harder to believe is 25 years later,
we're fighting to save the country from them taking it
over completely.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I was on a plane from Cincinnati to Dallas that day.
Speaker 11 (13:51):
Even though they lied to us and never told us
the truth and landed us in Memphis, Tennessee, everyone from
the rental car place to the airport and the next
day was so gracious to each other it was a beautiful.
Speaker 8 (14:04):
Day it looked like the plane was aiming towards the
building transmit a third alarm we're at the staging area.
Speaker 11 (14:11):
And west street have the third alarm assignment go into
that area.
Speaker 8 (14:20):
I lived on Staten Island and I could see the
World Trade Center. I came in by ferry and tried
to help and do whatever I could do. I knew
that it would be overwhelming and I knew that thousands
of people would perish that day. It was hard to comprehend. Surreal,
if that's the correct word. The people who knocked these.
Speaker 9 (14:39):
Buildings down will hear all of us soon. Thank you
for your hard work. Thank you for making the nation proud.
And may God bless America.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
So many sounds, so many vivid memories, so many perspectives
25 years later. My thanks to our Your Morning Show
audience using that talkback button this morning. As we remember
and honor 9-11 25 years later, President Trump will be
at the Pentagon for observance ceremonies.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Mark Mayfield has that story.
Speaker 12 (15:09):
He'll be joined by Secretary of War Pete Hengsteth in
honor of the 184 people killed when hijacked American Airlines
Flight 77 crashed into the building. Vice President J.D. Vance,
former Presidents Biden, Obama, George W. Bush, and Bill Clinton
will attend the 9-11 commemoration at Ground Zero in New
York City. The event honors the over 2,600 people who
died when hijacked American Airlines Flight 11 and United Airlines
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Flight 175 crashed into the Twin Towers of the World
Trade Center. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy will be at the
9-11 memorial in Shanksville, Pennsylvania. That honors the 44 people
who died while fighting the hijackers of United Flight 93,
forcing them to crash it into a field, stopping an
attack on Washington, D.C.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
I'm Mark Mayfield.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
This year's 9-11 remembrance ceremony in lower Manhattan is going
to include a new moment of silence and a bell toll.
This is the 25th anniversary. In the past, there were
just six moments of silences during 9-11 ceremonies. They've added
a second. Memorial and Museum President Beth Hillman says it's
there to honor those who serviced and sacrificed and have
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passed away since 9-11.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
All those people who, by virtue of their proximity to
the attacks or their service in response to the attacks
and their willingness to help in a myriad of different ways,
how they suffered and how their families.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
Suffered, 25 years later, we're learning more about what's causing
these health effects.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
More from Tammy Trujillo.
Speaker 13 (16:32):
American Lung Association spokesperson Dr. Panagy Galeasantos treated several ground
zero responders and has seen plenty of lung issues when
he views their x-rays and CT scans.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Abnormally thickened airways, mucus present in those lungs, some level
of lung scarring as well.
Speaker 13 (16:49):
About 95,000 first responders are enrolled in the World Trade
Center health program. They're battling issues that range from constant
coughs to chronic obstructive pulmonary disease to cancer. It all
comes from thousands of hours spent around the toxic dust
and debris from the World Trade Center.
Speaker 10 (17:04):
Dr.
Speaker 13 (17:04):
Galea Santos says he's seen patients with everything from asthma
to emphysema to pulmonary disorders that don't even fit traditional diagnoses.
I'm Tammy Trujillo.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
And here we are, 25 years later, with an Islamist
socialist mayor in the city attacked 25 years ago. How
did Mamdani rise to this position? How did he get there?
And what's the resistance and controversy? More on that with
our senior contributor David Zanotti is coming up. In sports,
it was all 49ers down under, winning 27-7 over the Rams.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
All Miami Hurricanes, 77-7 over Florida A & M.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
You got three college football games tonight, Louisville, Villanova, Missouri, Kansas,
and UVA and Norfolk State. Birthdays, Ludacris, 49, Harry Connick Jr., 59,
and maybe the next White House press secretary, Maria Bartiromo, 59.
And I said it right. If it's your birthday, happy birthday.
So glad you were born. Our 9-11 remembrance continues next.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
This is Andy Hickson living in Detroit, Michigan. My Morning
Show is your morning show.
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Speaker 1 (18:35):
Enjoy.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
This is a special presentation of your morning show with
Michael DelGiorno.
Speaker 9 (18:45):
He's got.
Speaker 7 (18:55):
People underneath him! He's got people underneath him!
Speaker 9 (19:15):
It is essential that New York City come back and
come back strong for the good of the entire nation.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
So many powerful emails we're getting on this 25th anniversary.
One is from Big John and Poughkeepsie. You always talk
about there's two kinds of people, those that lived it
and those who've learned about it.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Well, I lived it.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
That morning I was sitting at my desk working at
Morgan Stanley at 7. World Trade Center, my building, was
butted up against two World Trade Center towers. We had
6,000 people in those two towers, a lot that I knew.
I was one of the designated floor firemen to lead
our department out of the building during the fire drills. Well,
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when the first plane hit, my desk shook, my computer
went blank, and I knew something was wrong. So I
got the group together, and we were told to exit.
We went down the stairwell. When the door was opened
and we observed on the plaza floor, we immediately went
back up the stairs. We eventually made it out of
the front of the building where most of us were
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standing there looking at our dear friends jumping. Again, even
for those of us that were seeing this and then
later in documentaries, you could actually hear it. The loud
thumps of those so desperate that they would leap.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
It's another.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
It's kind of like what we were talking about with
Natalie Migliore. While this was an attack on America, make
no mistake about it, this was a New York City event.
These were people they knew falling from these buildings. John
goes on to say, I told my boss I can't
watch this. And at that moment, the second plane hit.
And fragments of everything was spewing down. Everybody scattered. A
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jet engine landed about 50 yards from me in the
middle of the street while I was running. I eventually
hid in a store from the building, and then we
made it to the east side. I was with my
boss's secretary. We eventually walked to the Brooklyn Bridge, where
we had no idea what the heck was happening. And
suddenly jets flew right over my head, where everybody was screaming.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
I knew they were U.S.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
Servicemen, and I was screaming out, those are our people,
those are our airmen. I continued to help women over
the tiny fence. So we could get across the Brooklyn Bridge.
We watched the towers fall from the highway walking through Brooklyn.
We didn't know what was happening. We eventually walked 20 miles.
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Where a patriot took us to the other side to
Staten Island. And finally, my cell phone worked for a moment.
I met my parents somewhere right over the bridge. Mike,
I never really told this story to anyone except my wife.
I'm glad to share it with you. Because you're enlightening.
with God and everything that is important to me, Big John. Wow,
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thank you for sharing such a personal moment. Roy also
wrote in, man, after my heart, let's not forget the
hundreds of search and rescue dogs that came from across
the country to help find survivors and their remains. Jimmy writes,
Pizza Boy, this was a tough day for me. I
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felt helpless sitting at the border of Connecticut, New York City.
I couldn't get through With all the trains and tunnels
shut down, all I wanted to do was go help
search for those who were lost with my military background
and as a survival instructor.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
There was a flag shortage after 9-11.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Now people say it makes them feel unsafe when they
see a house with an American flag on it. Lord
bless the work of my hands, my heart, and my
mind each day. Rick wrote, Good morning, Michael. I lived
in New Jersey, in Jersey Shore back then. I could
see the towers, smelled the smoke and debris. I watched
the towers fall. My pastor, Dan, and his partner, Pastor Jim,
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were at ground zero every day from 9-12 until they
gave the last rites to the last remnant of a
person found. Pastor Davis passed away from 9-11-related diseases a
few years ago. Pastor Schaefer, who suffers from COPD, eye disease,
has beaten cancer recently. We'll be speaking God's love at
Rutgers University. Please pray for him. We do today. 9-11
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power George W.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Bush. Reagan S.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
He took the tragedy and in most ways held the
nation together, which propelled him to a second term. After that,
Blake says he disintegrated into mediocrity. As much as we say.
We want to say we can't have terrorists succeed in
changing how our lives live.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
They did.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
I remember going out into the backyard in the couple
of days following 9-11, looking up into the night sky
and thinking how surreal it was to not see any
commercial jets in the sky. It was the first time
in my life, and probably for most people, that there
wasn't a single commercial airplane in the sky. Those nights
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of reflection and prayer for those on those planes and
in those buildings still stick with me today.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
God bless all those lost. Woody.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
Yeah, that kind of reminds me. I remember I was
talking to Governor Frank Keating of Oklahoma. And I said, Governor,
when's it okay to crack a joke?
Speaker 1 (24:53):
When is it okay to laugh? When is it okay
to go shopping? It just didn't. And that was.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
Multiple days after 9-11. Oh, there's a big difference having
lived it in the moment and learning about it. David
Zanotti is our senior contributor. And yet here we sit, David,
25 years later, and with the big controversy in New
York City, will Mayor Mamdani be a part of any
of these ceremonies? Because 25 years later, we have an
Islamist socialist mayor in the very city attacked by radical
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Islamists 25 years ago.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
How'd he get there? Yeah, that's a big question, Michael.
That's one everybody's asking.
Speaker 14 (25:30):
And he got there, interestingly enough, with more votes than
any mayor had gotten in New York City since 1969.
There's well over 8 million people that live in New
York and well over 6 million of them are registered
to vote and participate in elections. However, Mondami got a
million votes. 61% of the people who could have voted
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in that election did not. And that's traditional in New
York City. there's only about 2 million votes cast in
the entire election. And Mondami's opponents actually got as many
votes as he did. It's just they were split two ways.
And it was a perfect storm for whoever was going
to run. Well, they did rank share was the first
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initial way. I mean, if they didn't do rank share,
he doesn't get elected.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
That's maybe, maybe not. That's a complicated mathematical formula. But
if they had done it, he would have been in
a runoff. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
And then you would have had the United. I think
it would have been more difficult for him. But the
rent share played a role. Low voter turnout played the
role it always plays. What percentage of those... Cuomo being.
Speaker 14 (26:41):
The person who was his largest competitor played a big
role in the perfect storm for someone to come in
and take that from an independent perspective. He took it
from a democratic, socialistic perspective.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
And who did show up? Young voters.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
I can't imagine what the percentage is. It has to
be close to 75, 80% of the voters were not
alive for 9-11.
Speaker 14 (26:59):
Well, and the other factor is the religious factor. Now,
this is very difficult to poll and to accredit because
religion is a very personal thing. And we're very sensitive
about polling and questions of conscience and religious participation and affiliation.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
It's hard to get those numbers.
Speaker 14 (27:15):
The best numbers that we have tell us that there's
somewhere between 400 and 500,000 Muslims in New York.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
In New York City.
Speaker 14 (27:23):
So that certainly, if you've got a million votes, there's
a certain significant base that's involved there as well that
wasn't there.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
We saw that with Al-Sayed in Michigan, in the Dearborn
area and so on. So this morning- But I was
just gonna say, 25 years ago, I played that sound of,
we all have a different view of George W.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Today. We all have a different view of Rudy Giuliani today.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
My last view of Rudy Giuliani is his hair melting
during a news conference.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
The color dripping down his face. I thought he was
bleeding at first. It was scary.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
But in the moments of 9-11, called America's mayor, he
stood strong. He spoke clearly. From America's mayor on 9-11
to a mayor not even from America 25 years later.
I mean, at some point, where's the resume? Where's the qualifications?
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Where did this Mom Donnie come from?
Speaker 14 (28:21):
Yeah, well, he came, was born in Africa. He came
here from India at the age of seven. Mamdami's just
recently married. He became a citizen to the United States
in 2018, just eight years ago. And most people think
because he's Muslim, he's from the Middle East. No, he's
not from the Middle East. He's from India. And he
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presents himself in that fashion. However, he clearly identifies with
the most radical sect of Islam. So it's a very
strange passage that brought this fellow to where he is
and an even stranger set of circumstances as to how
he managed to win this particular election. But all things
being equal, that question lies and remains with the 61%
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of the people in New York who didn't vote.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
You bring up India, by the way, people should know that-
Hindu is the main religion, about 79.8% of those in India.
There is Islam. It's a very small or 14.2%. Christianity
is at 2.3%. Ironically, in India, they don't really care
for the more radical Islamist type Muslim nations. And that
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would make some people question, was he more radicalized online
or through other elements? Now, keep in mind, as much
as everything unfolded 25 years ago in New York, really
the whole movement of radical Islam and terrorism began in
New York City at the Al-Faruq Mosque. And it started
with an assassination of a rabbi. It really kind of
started with the al-Sadat assassination in Egypt. They didn't like
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Jimmy Carter and El Sadat sitting down and forming anything
that acknowledged Israel as a nation.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
And that's why El Sadat was taken out. And so
you had all this birthing. But the key.
Speaker 14 (30:06):
Thanks for the history, by the way, because it's really
easy to forget.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
Oh, but no, but all the key factors of this,
the blind sheik was at that Al-Faruq Mosque in New York.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Yusuf Ramzi... Well, and the hostages in... Yeah, all of
this is related. In fact, bin Laden gets into the picture.
Bin Laden.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
was a very wealthy, somewhat Sunni, fundamental Muslim, but not
a terrorist. He didn't get terroristic until much later. Now,
he started funding all these radicals in New York City.
They felt betrayed because we were once allies with the
Mujahideen and then we turned our back on them.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
This is all forgotten now.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
And then he got radicalized by another one that escaped
with the blind sheik who went to New York and
then he went to the Middle East. And it all
leads to those planes on 9-11. I mean, Al Qaeda's
roots are as much in New York as they are
the Middle East. And still today is what you're describing.
I mean, this goes back to what I said yesterday, David.
This isn't me five years old watching black and whites
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of Hitler.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Hitler was dead. We won the war. This is still
a clear and present danger. That's what makes it different.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
And there's a lot of people who have lost loved
ones as first responders or that were working in At 9-11,
and they don't, I mean, I can't remember what the
last list was of surviving family members, but it was
in the hundreds of thousands. Do not want this merit,
these ceremonies today. That still has yet to unfold, how
that will be received.
Speaker 14 (31:33):
Well, it's interesting because this day in Northeast Ohio, where
I'm at this morning, is brilliantly sunny exactly like the
day 25 years ago. It feels like a total repeat.
And it was there were people right here within miles
of where we're talking right now who actually saw the
plane turn around going back toward Washington, which ended up
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crashing in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, because the resistance to all of
this didn't begin when the Secret Service whispered in President
Bush's ears. It began when Todd Beamer and four people
stood up on that plane and said, let's roll. When
they prayerfully, talking to their families, talking to each other, said,
we cannot let this stand.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
That's where the resistance began.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
Greater love has no man than this. And he laid
down his life for his brother. They knew they were
a weapon at that point. They ensured their death to
protect others on the ground. It really was the first moment.
His father and others are speaking out now. I had
the privilege to meet his father a year ago, Michael.
What an amazing human being.
Speaker 14 (32:40):
I was in an event for a group called the
Halo Foundation, which helped build the Shanksville Memorial in Pennsylvania.
And I will tell you, in this room of people,
and it was a very emotional room, once again commemorating
what had happened there. And he was the last guy
I would have expected to have been Todd Beamer's father
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for one simple reason.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
He was the most joyful person in the room. That
makes me want to cry.
Speaker 14 (33:06):
How their family has overcome this tragedy by doing good
is something every American should dig to find out because
it's a beautiful story.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
You were a part of this when we were envisioning it.
So you'll appreciate this. I mean, having Mary call, having
Donna call up from Philadelphia and lead us in prayer.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
Your morning show, a listener leads us in prayer from
the heart. So powerful. Mary talking about grief is love
with no place to go. And I was thinking about
all of that. And the one thing that Todd Beamer's
father will always tell you, and this is the symptom
of having an eternal faith lens. And that is, don't
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buy into this victim mentality. That is often the case
on remembrance days like this, that we become professional victims.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
We do it now after storms. Nashville strong, USA strong.
Don't do that. Honor it.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
Honor it with actions. That's what his son did. That's
what he's calling us to do because it was them.
It could have been us. It might be us next.
We must go further and down. I'm going to address
that in the 9-11 address coming up in minutes from now.
But just a final perspective on this 25th anniversary of 9-11.
I don't know that we've identified the war any better
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in 25 years or the enemy any better in 25 years.
We know what happened. We're a little better at stopping
it from happening again, but this war is long from
over and I don't think anybody's even identified it yet.
That's probably what's most troubling for me.
Speaker 14 (34:36):
Well, there's a passage in the writings of St. Paul
that shines brilliantly in hours like this when he says,
do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil in
the good. That's the Todd Beamer and Flight 93 story
of those four heroes that went forward and all the
people there. We knew people on that plane, all the
people there that gave their lives. Every point, whether it's
the Pentagon or Washington, D.C. or in New York City,
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people began to resist evil by doing good.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
That's the bigger story.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
Senior contributor David Zanotti, host of the Public Square and
CEO of the American Policy Roundtable.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Thanks for your insights on this anniversary. Thank you, Michael.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
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assassinated a Minnesota lawmaker and her husband in their own home,
they found a notebook. Inside was a handwritten list of
11 websites. I can't imagine what you think those websites were.
Weapon sites, maybe?
Speaker 7 (35:28):
No.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
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Speaker 4 (36:29):
It's your morning show with Michael DelGiorno.
Speaker 15 (36:35):
It was hot, but nothing compared to the agony that
a lot of those guys went through when they lost
their friends and family.
Speaker 7 (36:47):
I can hear.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
You. The rest of the world hears you. And the people.
Speaker 9 (37:02):
Who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Tonight, I can report to the American people and to
the world that.
Speaker 10 (37:12):
The United States has conducted an operation that killed Osama
bin Laden, the leader of Al-Qaeda, and a terrorist who's
responsible for the murder of thousands of innocent men, women,
and children.
Speaker 7 (37:25):
I was working at a church when it happened, and
the whole church was up in the office watching.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Couldn't believe it. What was even more surprising is they
elected a man named Barack Hussein Obama as president right afterwards.
How did that happen? I was on a plane from
Cincinnati to Dallas that day.
Speaker 11 (37:47):
Even though they lied to us, never told us the truth,
and landed us in Memphis, Tennessee. Everyone from the rental
car place to the airport and the next day was
so gracious to each other. It was a beautiful thing.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
So many things to remember. What do we do with
these memories? What do we do with these concerns?
Speaker 4 (38:08):
We're all in this together. This is your Morning Show
with Michael DelGiorno.