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A proxy war turns to a direct war between Israel and Iran

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Speaker 1 (00:33):
So traveling this morning. We've been to Israel, We've been
to New York City. I ever James Carafano comes around.
You never know where you're at. Good morning, Welcome to Thursday,
October third, twenty twenty four. If you're just waking up.
The death tolls residen to one hundred and ninety from
Hurricane Helene. The vice presidential debate actually drew forty three
million viewers. The stock workers enter day three of their strike,

(00:54):
and is Israeli forces continue to engage fighting on the
ground with Hesbalah fighters in southern Lebanon. I consider the
finest military foreign policy mind in America. Today, Lieutenant Colonel
James Carafana was joining us from the Heritage Foundation. I
had to do it without your, Lieutenant Colonel for a
couple of days, I would I would say the most
significant events of this week are that the defense systems

(01:16):
still work in protecting Israel and a proxy war turned
direct and escalated because Iran bombed directly from Iran got
a pretty good.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Eye on things, do I yeah, so it's interesting. I
really didn't think that this was a wise move for
the Iranians and apparently what they did. And again, you
know me, I'm a how many class or intelligence I'm
just watching everybody else is watching? Is this just strike?
Reminds me a lot of what they did after Trump

(01:47):
killed Solimani, which is, you know, they fired a bunch
of stuff. There was no real strategic purpose, no real
strategic targeting. A lot of it got intercepted. I mean,
the last thing I saw the person that was killed
was a Palestinian and Gaza killed by accident. And it's

(02:08):
to me this smacks more of the honor thing like
I have to show to retaliate, otherwise people will think
I'm weak and it's mostly designed for domestic consumption. And
then I guess the hope is, well, the Israelis, you know,
won't really take it seriously. That's not that's not Israeli.
I know, I do think, but literally what the what

(02:32):
the Iranians did would literally give Israel the legal authority
it needs to actually really hammer these guys.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Okay, I'm packed.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
I want unpack this quickly because I know we don't
have much time together. I agree with you that they
have to save their face at home, but this was
one hundred and eighty one missiles fired from Iranian soil,
raining down on Israel. It's going to get a response,
not against two th these, not against Hezbolah, not against
them now they're coming from you. They've already been doing
strategic air strikes. I would be looking at your oil

(03:06):
fields and your nuclear facilities, and I'd be worried if I.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Was a round.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Well, so there's two different ones. One is if you
want to just go, you know, eye for an eye,
tooth for tooth, you're going to do something serious, and
I agree with you, it's either oil export or hitting
a nuclear site. If you want to get really really serious,
the sequence is all the command and control, take out
the electrical grids, then take out the oil export money,

(03:32):
then go after the nuclear sites. You have destroyed the
ability of the country to control the country and completely
amiliated them, and then that actually becomes maybe leading instabilian Iran.
That's that I want to go hull Hawk. We don't know,
but here's the thing is. And so what we've seen
so far from the Israeli which is sequential, right, they
didn't push the fighting with Hesbla until they had pretty

(03:54):
much finished with Gaza. The smart play which calls for
some restraint and discipline, which I think the Israelis have it.
You finish off Heasbelah before you go after Iran, which
we're saying.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
What we're saying on the ground in southern Lebanon right.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Now, well that that is kind of what we're saying.
And today, for example, we saw the first ever strike
against a Russian facility in Syria, which is pretty serious.
And the other thing we've seen is multiple things about
choking off Iranian resupply to hes blaw and and I

(04:29):
think in the context of unlike the Iranian strike, which
is kind of a glitzy, you know, public thing, what
the what the Israelis are doing are things that really
weaken Iran's regional control. And that's got to scare the
hell of them. And here's the one thing I'll say,
which is a great and you know, I mean not
republican work, right, But if the if, if the Israelis

(04:55):
went into this not with the restrained support of the
United States, but with the full throat of support of
the the United States, a lot less Arabs and Palestinians
and Iranians would die. This would have been over a
lot sooner, and the Mulla would have got the message
a lot faster.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Closing moments with James Carafinald, Lieutenant colonel, all right, so
everything we have seen Israel, do you always talk about
the pattern terrorists get emboldened. Then you know, you lift
sanctions and they have money and they export oil and
then they spend that money to fight proxy wars, to
get people to do their dirty work. This has, unfortunately

(05:30):
for them, turned into a very direct checkmate. Israel has
been decapitating leadership with such precision airstrikes, with such precision
ground movements and incursions with such precision. I mean, my
gut tells me I don't have any intelligence more than
you do. My God is they're going to take this

(05:51):
to the hawksh extreme and I don't think they care
what America the world thinks.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Right. Well, look, they can't they can't take a run
out of the fight, and they can hurt them. Israel
can buy itself a couple of years of security, which
is what. But in the end, if we want to
get back to a region that is working together and
not killing each other, that only happens if we have

(06:16):
a US policy that just isn't but stupid and otherwise,
all this work by Israel buys some space and time,
but it doesn't get us on a path to a
stable region. For that the United States really needs. And
again I'm not a Republican and Democrat. It needs to
go back to policies like we had under Trump because

(06:37):
they actually delivered.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yeah, I appreciate your time.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
I know you've been pressed and called into duty to
come on a Thursday instead of a Tuesday, and I
appreciate it. We'll talk more. His conditions warrant you go
have a great day, all right. That's James Carafund. You
can read his work and his colleagues's great work at
Heritage dot Org anytime, one of the finest military and
foreign policy minds. As for the president, this should a

(07:01):
not strike you as vision leadership on wavering support. This
is America following, not leading. But this was Joe Biden
on the tarmac discussing what to do with israel.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
I called the meeting at the G seven today.

Speaker 5 (07:23):
We're working on a joint statement all of us agree
on from Japan to France.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
To Germany, et cetera.

Speaker 5 (07:31):
And what we're doing in that regard is you're made
it clear that there are things that have to be done.

Speaker 6 (07:37):
And obviously Iran.

Speaker 5 (07:40):
Has gone way out of I mean it's way off
fourth where we're going to put together a joint statement
hasn't been done yet, it will be done before it
to long, probably by the time of land. And there's
going to be some sanctions in fos on the rank.

Speaker 7 (07:54):
And it's support an attack on the run.

Speaker 8 (07:56):
And you can't fight fighting.

Speaker 6 (08:00):
The answer is no, And I think there's things that well,
we discussing the Israeli is what we're going to do.
But they have at all seven.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Of us agree that they have a right.

Speaker 7 (08:13):
To respond, that this respond, So what does that mean?
What's the definition of responding proportion. So first of all,
he has no statement of his own. He has a
conference college G seven leaders. The G seven leaders will
decide that Israel has a right to defend itself, it
has a right to respond, but it'll tell it what

(08:36):
that right of response is. Now, I can just tell you, Benjamin,
and now who doesn't give a rats what they think?
Everybody knows Iran is the most predictable threat, not to
the region but to the world. This notion that they
have been allowed because war, at the end of the day,
is means mode of an opportunity.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
Their motive is ancient and unchanged. First the destruction of
Israel and the killing of every Jew, then the destruction
of the United States and the killing of every Christian.
Why because they believe, prophetically their hidden me Mom will
appear and rule. Then Allah will come and judge the world.
World dominance is always their motive, and they take their cues.

(09:26):
Now I will tell you this, you'd have to get
into an extensive study of Sheeite Muslims versus other Muslims.
Islamis they go on the offensive, They create moments political Islamis.
They wait for moments and take cues. But when you
know at some point somebody should have yelled, do you

(09:48):
regret that you lifted the sanctions against Iran? I mean,
for a president of the United States on a tarmac
like it's some kind of shocking conclusion. What Iran did
is unacceptable when you released and gave them all that money.
What's unacceptable is a notion that you thought they wouldn't

(10:10):
share it with proxies to carry out attacks on Israel
in America. I mean, somebody to remind the president those
were And I think what you're seeing from Israel is
a notion that all the hostages have been killed. I've
been saying that for as long as your morning show's
been on the air. These things normally happen, like you

(10:30):
invade Israel and you kill and you take hostages, and
then Israel pounds you back a couple of years, and
then you release the hostages and everybody goes.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
On there merry way with no peace.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
When they wouldn't release the hostages, it told me Hamas
killed them all already. You never even hear anybody even
ask a president of the United I'll give credit at
least you know before the Meetia was completely dead and
Jimmy Carter was president. Everybody was focused on American hostages Iran.
Now Iranian provoked and funded hostages by Hamas. There's been

(11:05):
very little interest, shocking to me. Shocking. Yeah, the media
is dead, but it's shocking me that the American people
can be that blind. And the notion that you would
lift these sanctions and fund Iran and then allow them
to be selling oil to China. What do you think
they're gonna do with the money. Their motive is the same,

(11:27):
and when you give them the means, it creates the opportunity.
Israel's doing some great work on behalf of your security
and the world's security. And they started by decapitating the
leadership of Hamas and they moved down to Hesbelah. They're
wrapping things up on the ground with Hesbelag. And when

(11:48):
you throw, for whatever reason you were trying to save
face one hundred and eighty one missiles at Israel, that
is a direct attack on a sovereign nation. And you
can expect a direct response. And it's not going to
be towards a Moas. It's not going to be towards Hasiblah.
It's not going to be towards the houthies. Those bombs,
whether from planes or elsewhere, are going to be targeting

(12:11):
ran And if you take out their OYO and you
set them back with her enriched uranium, you're doing a
service to the world.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
And I think it's coming.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
And I don't think it matters what Joe Biden can't
decide or what the G seven thinks.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
And I'm not even the lieutenant colonel. This is your
morning show with Michael del Chona.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
They all New Knew nine to sixty AM. I Heart
Sports talking more in San Francisco. Joins are your morning
show families. So for those of you who are up
early on the West Coast listening to Knew, good morning
and welcome to your morning show. It's Thursday, October, the
third year of a low. Twenty twenty four thirty six
minutes after the hour is I like to say, twenty
four minutes to be to work on time. The death

(12:58):
toll has risen to at least a one hundred and
ninety now with the results of Hurricane Helene. And that's
just so far. We still have hundreds missing, and that
death toll is expected to rise greatly. The vice presidential
debate shockingly had forty three million viewers, far more exposed
after the fact through the media and social media, but

(13:20):
forty three million watched it live over multiple networks. Israeli
forces are engaged in fighting on the ground with Hesbalat,
and the world still waits for its response to Iran,
and the strike of US doc workers appears to have
prompt some panic shopping and Rey, how's back. Aaron and I,
of course are going to be dismantling our lemonade stand.

(13:40):
Later we'll be selling toilet paper in the neighborhood for
great profit.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
You know, I had a fascinating time.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
I had a fascinating conversation with David bonson who's their
money was, and an economist, and he's on Fox Business
all the time, just a brilliant guy, and he's come
to the same conclusion you and I have that, Hey,
this is going to be settled relatively fast. Be the
longshoremen are trying to take advantage of politics to make
this painful. But you can rack your brain all you want,

(14:10):
number one, and you can't just figure out any reason
to rush and go buy toilet paper or anything else.
Maybe down the road if it lasted weeks or months
could be a problem for Christmas shopping for automobiles, maybe
phone chargers. But I mean, you can rack your brain
and can't figure. So it's a lot of media scare
and hype for something that I think probably Joe Biden

(14:32):
knows will be solved before he would ever have to
enact TAFT hardly.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
And the reality.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Is, as far as the technologies itself, they're trying to
hold off.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
You simply can't and you got to anticipate.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
He had a great analogy he said that had been
like you know, people striking against automobile manufacturers to try
to hang on to horse and buggies.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
You just can't do it. It was really it was
really interesting. You would have loved it.

Speaker 8 (14:59):
I'm gonna listen. I mean, if I can find it, yeah,
that sounds awesome. And listen, you can't fight the ticking
hand of time. It's gonna happen. So the best you
can do is to hope to find a way to
you know, be a part of it. And one of
the ways you can do that, as you know, the
longshoremen and the Maritime Alliance that's repping the port terminals

(15:21):
and the ocean carriers is create provisions in their contracts
that protects these workers from losing their job to automation
and something like that is guaranteed retraining for new tech
or you know, some kind of compensation. There's ways you
can do it and just being like nope, nope, not moving.
That doesn't work. And also, here's the thing, unions are

(15:41):
experiencing a lot of support publicly right now. If ever
there was a time for the long shoreman to have
the upper hand, it would be right now. Also, it's
been record years in terms of profits for these shipping companies.
So yes, they're in a good position. But the longer
this goes on and if more people are affected by it,
they begin to lose that power, They begin to lose
that upper hand and begin to look wildly unreasonable. And

(16:02):
I'm not saying they're there today, they're not. But you
can't do this for so long and disrupt so many
people's lives and think that they're still going to be
on your side.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Well, going back to David Bonson's example, I mean, you know,
I guess at the time, if you were in the
horseshoe business, or the saddle business or the carriage business,
it may have frightened you. But think of all the
auto related jobs, from the manufacturing to repair to the dealerships.
So I mean technology changes things, but it also, in

(16:32):
addition to eliminating things, it creates things. And there's just
some things you can't get back. You know, once the
toothpastes out, you can't get it back in the tube.
But we'll continue to follow this. I thought it was
interesting that David and he would be in the know.
Says that there's a much quicker resolve coming to this,
and that may be why Joe Biden had the luxury
of politically standing by unions knowing that this wouldn't last

(16:56):
long enough to impact the upcoming election. All right, this one,
I'm going to rely completely on you. I don't know
much about all these weight loss drugs, although the very
simplest thoughts I get is and then let's see what
the headlines are three years from now about all the
people dying of cancer.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
That might be linking. So you just never know.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
But some of these popular new weight loss drugs are
providing added benefit to package food makers connect those times,
because I can't see that from a mile alone.

Speaker 8 (17:24):
No, So yes, this fun is actually first and foremost,
you're right, there's no biological free ride. It's just like
not a thing. Now, if you're wildly overweight, then more
things are probably hurting you than GLP one inhibitors, which
is what's a nozempic. But outside of that, you're right,
let's let's let's give this some time tested and see

(17:44):
how it works out. But in the short term, a
lot of these food companies saw this as panic mode,
but it turns out that the disruption can be an opportunity.
NESTLEI they actually launched an entire product line of frozen
foods that specifically target those taking these drugs. The GLP
one's Canaga brands. They highlight things like protein content and
doctors advise that you seek out foods to higher nutritional

(18:07):
value and protein and make sure you're getting enough like
water and things that move your body along your your
system because you're bringing in lower calories. Also, Campbell's soup,
they help them in the sense that they're easily digestible,
protein rich. So you know, it's a lucrative puzzle to solve,
potentially lucrative, and a lot of companies are doing it.
There's thirty million US adults who are on these drugs

(18:29):
right now. And if you just look at Canagra, they've
actually seen a lift thanks to GLP one users primarily
in there like healthy Choice, their Maory calendar's meals, the frozen,
the individual, the health focused meals, single person GLP one households.
They're doing great.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
You know, I have add to some degree, and all
I can think of is I've been saying Canagra, Canagra, whatever, Canagar.

Speaker 8 (18:54):
You might be right, might be wrong. I don't know, No, no,
you might be totally right. I'm like, I think that
I'm saying it wrong. I think it's Nannagress.

Speaker 9 (19:01):
And then I thought about, what what if Bell and
Jerry's just came out the Rockies the roads for those
who really.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
Right?

Speaker 1 (19:12):
I never thought about, you know, anticipating those because it is,
in a sense, you know, it's a medication that it
kind of sets in motion the diet. So start anticipating
what those needs are. I guess that's smart.

Speaker 8 (19:22):
And listen, the food industry has never seen a diet
trend it doesn't love and doesn't seek to capitalize on.
Like it's not just because fat free, low carb, yeah exactly,
or like low fat or high fat or whatever, but
the idea that like it. We're people are still eating,
they're just eating differently and they're eating less. So like,

(19:42):
how do you rebrand yourself? They have plenty of you know,
business schools graduates who work on this NonStop and crunch
the numbers and look at the data and oh yeah,
they'll capitalize on it, don't you worry.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
And then there's old fashioned people like you that just
drink a lot of water, eat right, and exercise.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Bar give me.

Speaker 8 (20:06):
Just go get a seat of water, give me a
shot the rear.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Let's call it a day and I'll hit them a fan.
All right, Eric greg reporting, we'll talk again tomorrow. Have
a great day.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
My look all right, if you're just waking up, these
are the top five stories of the day.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
I you know I said this earlier, and this is
human tragedy. I think that I actually think this is
a window where it's Joe Biden's job to go visit
these flood stricken areas and to assist these governors and
these Americans as they suffer. I'm not real comfortable with
candidates for president using human suffering as a campaign stopped

(20:41):
I thought, Donald Trump, I know this sounds biased, because
I do plan to vote for job Donald Trump. I
thought he was sensitive and tasteful in Georgia and that
was an area where the suffering wasn't as bad. Uh, yesterday,
Kamala Harris kind of crossed some lines. I think Joe
Biden hit the right tone. One hundred and ninety people
or dead, hundreds are still missing. That's all was going

(21:02):
to rise. Anybody takes a glance at some of the pictures.
I think probably one of the more famous ones is
a husband and a wife with a I think it
was a six year old grandchild taken on the roof
and then we know that that roof collapse and they died.
I mean, there was one of a little girl in
a rescue boat clinching her puppy and the terror on

(21:24):
this little girl's face. But no child should be experiencing.
This is serious stuff, serious human suffering. And I got
to tell you, don't hear me compliment this round. Joe
seemed aware, compassionate, willing to help, and I thought he

(21:44):
struck the perfect tone. In fact, these five seconds say
it all.

Speaker 5 (21:48):
My heart was out to everyone who has experienced the
unthinkable loss.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
But we're here for you.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Meanwhile, it turns out forty three million people watch that
vice presidential debate. It's about six million more than I thought.
Mark Mayfield has the details.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
Nielsen figures show viewers tuned in across fifteen different networks
to watch the debate, hosted by CBS. The age group
with the largest viewership was those over fifty five, which
accounted for twenty nine million views. Minnesota Governor Tim Walls
and Senator JD. Vance sparred over a number of topics,
including immigration, gun control, abortion, and the economy. A CBS
poll found forty two percent of respondents thought and Vance

(22:26):
won the debate, while forty one percent thought Walls one
and seventeen percent said it was a tie. I'm Mark Mayfield,
so by one, Jadi Dad's one, just what we kind
of thought.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Right.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
If you were already for Trump and Vance, you feel
better about your vote because of JD's performance, which is significant.
I think if you were four Harris and Walls, I
think you're feeling better about your vote, especially how we
handled democracy and abortion. So the question is the undecided,
the independence, and especially in swing precincts of swing district

(23:00):
of swing states, and we just won't have that answer.
Till November. DOC workers on the East Coast and the
Gulf Coast of the United States. They entered day three
of their strike. Brian Shook reports Stu Leonard has supermarkets
up and down the East Coast, and he worries that
people across the US will start feeling the pinch soon.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
So there's a ripple effect that it's going to clog
up the supply.

Speaker 10 (23:22):
Chick Doc workers have halted the flow of about half
the nation's ocean shipping after negotiations for a new labor
contract broke down over wages. Analysts warned the disruption will
cost the economy billions of dollars a day, threatened jobs,
and stoke inflation. I'm Brian Shook.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Well, we bet on everything, right, why not politics and
the twenty twenty four election. Well, the court has decided
you can Chris Garagio as that story.

Speaker 9 (23:49):
A federal appeals court made the ruling going against the
Commodity Futures Trading Commission. The government agency argued that allowing
betting could undermine election integrity and asked the court to
block the un prediction exchange platform KYLSHI from offering bets
on which party would control each House of Congress. The
site advertises itself as a regulated exchange and prediction market

(24:10):
where you can trade on the outcome of real world events.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
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Speaker 8 (24:16):
Franking, Tennessee.

Speaker 11 (24:17):
My morning show is your morning show with Michael del
join out.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Can't have your morning show without your voice.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
We'd love getting your talkbacks for those that are listening
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your emails at Michael D at iHeartMedia dot com. Jeremy writes, hello,
old friend. My brother lives in Swana. Noah works in Ashville,
said yesterday that two of the three water plants, the
water treatment plants, are damaged and offline. The one remaining

(24:44):
is running at about fifteen percent capacity and water service
restoration is being talked about in weeks, not days. Miss you, Jeremy.

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With miss you, I'm literally on across the country now
and yet for listeners in Nashville.

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Speaker 1 (25:01):
He knows du to email. Keep the emails coming, Michael
Ddiheartmedia dot Com. All right, final say this was interesting.
Jd Vance And I think most people, because that's all
we do is assume quick positions. Uh, it really doesn't
impact the election. It just shows what side you're on.
But you know, there's no question you would think whether
you're a leftist or if you're on the far right

(25:23):
or anywhere in between. Hopefully you figured out journalism is dead.
They're at the cabal table and they're dishonest middlemen. And
so as we saw with Donald Trump unable to overcome it.
It was three against one for JD Vance and CBS.
It was three against one. Only JD could handle it.

(25:44):
That actually caused him to shine more. And one of
the contentious moments was when they promised not to fact check,
and then they fact checked wrong, and they threatened to
shut off his microphone, and he held them accountable, and
in all their smugness, they were like, well, thank you
for explaining to us the law, but you're welcome for
trying to mislead the viewers. He did say, because then

(26:06):
she came back with, well, I assume you can prove that.
He goes, well, yeah, there's a there's a Federal Reserve
Board of Governor's report. I can share that with you,
and sure enough he did so. Right after the debate,
JD posted, as promised earlier tonight. Here's Michelle Bowman of
the Federal Reserve Board of Governors quote, Finally, there is

(26:27):
a risk that strong consumer demand for services increased immigration.
She doesn't distinguish between illegal or legal, and you got
both twenty five million, and continued labor market tightness could
lead to persistently high core services inflation. Given the current

(26:48):
low inventory of affordable housing, the inflow of new immigrants
to some geographic areas will result in an upward pressure
on rents, and an additional housing supply may take time
to materialize.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Take that, CBS. This one.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
We had a long discussion. You know, when you look
at the electoral college map, and again there's five less
than five weeks to go. Early voting has begun in
some places. We suspect that for places like Wisconsin and
Michigan and Pennsylvania, anywhere from thirty to fifty thousand votes
will decide these dates, and any one of those states
can decide this entire election. And it's crazy and it's

(27:30):
too close to call. Polling is inaccurate. And then you've
got the really diehard Trump supporters that don't trust the
media or universities and won't answer any of their questions.
So that creates a pattern of underpolling. So if Trump's
down by one, is he really up to We just
don't know. But if you took the polls and where
they are right now, and you would see pretty consistently

(27:54):
that Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin are too close to call. Heck,
North Carolina looks on paper too close to call, Arizona's
looking more strongly, and Nevada looks too close to call.
But if you take the map and you do the
best case scenario for Kamala Harris, and you give her Nevada,

(28:16):
you give her Minnesota, you give her Wisconsin, you give
her Michigan, you give Sylvania, you give her Virginia that's
down to two, and you give Trump North Carolina and Georgia.
She wins two seventy six to two sixty two. Nah,
you flip Nevada red, you take Wisconsin, make it red
or Pennsylvania read and Donald Trump's the president. But this

(28:38):
is an interesting way to close the show the path
for Kamala at this rate.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
How is Vice Prosident Harris performing with young voters compared
to how President Biden did in twenty twenty oh.

Speaker 11 (28:49):
Some numbers Anderson to help with that question. Number one,
just look at this choice for president. I want to
stretch this out a little bit.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Excuse me for turning my back.

Speaker 11 (28:56):
This is for a recent New York Times Siana poul
It shows Donald Trump and the vice tied tide among
voters AIGs eighteen to twenty nine. Joe Biden carried that
group by twenty four points in twenty twenty in the
exit polls.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
From being on the ground.

Speaker 12 (29:08):
Remember when you pull a smaller shub group in a poll,
there's a bigger margin of error. I can't quite believe
it's a tie from being on the ground several times
in Michigan. But there's no question the vice president is
doing better than President Biden was doing earlier this year.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
And you add to that only fifty two percent of
the Black Muslim vote.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
And ye had that the loss of the.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Black vote and Hispanic vote too close to call. But
dig inside the numbers. These swing states are going to swing.
I wonder if it's not an October surprise but a
November surprise.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
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