Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Holly Cotton.
A wellness expert, registered nurse, bestselling author, breast cancer survivor, and life coach. Holly shares her journey from nursing to entrepreneurship, her battle with breast cancer, and her mission to empower others through holistic wellness and mental health advocacy. The conversation is rich with personal insights, practical advice, and motivational takeaways.
🧭 Key Points 👩⚕️ Nursing & Career Evolution
- Holly holds a master’s degree in nursing and has worked in various roles including management and teaching.
- She emphasizes that nursing is more than bedside care—there are many non-clinical paths like education, management, and sales.
💡 Holistic Lifestyle Philosophy
- Holly defines a holistic lifestyle as the balance of mental, physical, spiritual, and financial health.
- She believes financial health is often overlooked but is essential to overall well-being.
🧠 Mental Health Advocacy
- Social media has helped destigmatize mental health, especially in the Black community.
- Holly encourages open dialogue and early identification of mental health issues, especially among youth.
🎗️ Breast Cancer Journey
- Diagnosed in 2012, Holly turned her pain into purpose by becoming a breast cancer advocate.
- Her book, Strong More Than Muscles, shares her story and continues to inspire readers globally.
📚 Books & Youth Empowerment
- Holly created the “Your Mind, Your Magic” book series to support adolescent mental health.
- The series includes four books (also in Spanish) tailored for:
- Girls and boys
- Young men
- Special needs children
- Children with chronic illnesses
💬 Purpose & Empowerment
- Holly’s mission is to inspire women to live fully, embrace their power, and stop settling.
- She believes that authentic living aligns with purpose, and that impact is more valuable than income.
💬 Notable Quotes
“I will not allow age to be an excuse.”
“Nursing found me. It’s what I did, not who I am.”
“Holistic health is about mind, body, spirit—and finances.”
“Pain will push you to your purpose.”
“When you live your life authentically, everything aligns.”
“We need to focus on making kids mentally strong—not just physically strong.”
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
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let's get this show started.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Well.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Well well, Rashan McDonald, keep winning? What does that mean?
That means that when you think there's not an opportunity
for you to be successful, keep winning, keep pushing forward.
I have an interesting fact to tell people today. I
will tell people never allow age to be an excuse.
In twenty twenty four, more than four million people reached
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the age of sixty five years of age in twenty
twenty four. Now, when the Social Security was established way
back in nineteen thirty five, the average age is expectancy
was sixty three. So in a way, the social security
system is broke because people are out living. In nineteen
thirty five, they thought they will live beyond sixty three
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years of age. Four million people reach the age of
sixty five and twenty twenty four, and I'm one of
them and happy about it. And I will never allow
an age or my age to stop me from planning
my next business opportunity, playing my next vacation, Playing my
next house is available for me to buy up there,
Planning my next car if is available for me to
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buy out there, playing my next opportunity, to dream beyond
ten years, twenty years, thirty years, forty years. I'm dreaming
like that because I will not allow age to be
an excuse. I will not allow my age anybody around me,
even if you're twenty, don't let nobody tell you what
you can't do when you're twenty thirty. Don't let nobody
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tell you what you can't do because you're thirty, forty fifty.
I'm just telling everybody, we've allowed the system to tell
us what we're supposed to be doing at a certain age.
Throw it out the window. Throw it out the window.
It don't work. Moving forward, We've got social media out there.
Social media out there, we can promote ourselves and everything.
My guest is a wellness expert, registered nurse, best selling author,
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breast cancer survivor, life coach with a master's degree in nursing.
Please welcome the Money Making Conversation master class. Holly Cotton,
how you doing, my friend?
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Hey? Hih That intro made me sound fancy. Thank you. Well.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
You know, all I can do is tell the truth,
and that's the key, you know, I'm not making any
of these things up. What exactly when we get started,
Miss Cotton? What exactly where are you based at?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
By the way, I am in Houston, Texas.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Is that where you were born? Or did you just
transplant into the Texas market.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
No, I transplanted. I'm actually born and raised in home
of Louisiana, graduated from high school, went to LSU, lived
in DC for a few years, and then came to
Houston and I've been here ever since.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Was great Houston. Houston as well I was born and raised,
so you're never here a negative thing about Houston from
Rachelle McDonald. I think it's the best restaurants in the
world or in Houston, Texas. That's me. I'm a big foodie,
so I tell everybody wherever I go, Houston is the
place to eat. Now let's get back to you, Miss Cotton.
A master's degree in nursing.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Why Honestly, I needed some money, and I knew a
trade was the best way to go about that. So
I always knew that nurturing and doing that whole thing
was kind of where I wanted to go. So I
tried all the different paths, all the you know, every
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time you major in something in college, you're like, ooh
I want to do sociology. Oh I want to do this,
Oh I want to do that. And so so I
got caught up in college and had a baby, and
I was like, Okay, I need to get a trade
really quick. So I actually started with my associate degree
in nursing, and then of course went back and got
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my you know, my masters or whatever, so that I
could do obviously more things in nursing. But yep, that's
how I ended up. Nursing found me. So here I
am still.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Well because you know, I always ask people, you know,
my degrees in mathematics, and mathematics basically found me because
I went to college for seven years dancing around trying
to find some instructor, some instruct that the users used
to was just gonna give me some easy grades. I
never found that instructor, by the way, just good. Never
found that instructor. But I was looking for I was
looking for I was looking for four and a half years.
Then somebody said, boy, stop looking at and open that
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book and started studying and I graduated two and a
half years later in mathematics. And when you get these degrees,
you know, uh it was financial expectation to that when
you got your master's degree in nursing.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yes, so honestly, when I was in nursing school, because
I went the long way, so I did associate nursing.
Then I did my bachelor's and then I went back
and got my master's. So when I was doing my bachelor's,
I had the worst professor ever, and I was like,
you know what, I want to get my masters so
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that I can teach because I wanted to give back
in some kind of way. So I've always wanted to
give back. So I feel that nursing was a way
for me to sort of be that different but also
have a very lucrative career as well. So that's why
I went to my master's and then I started doing
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all these other things. So I never wanted to go
back and get my doctrine in nursing. I was like, Okay,
I you know, I've done nursing for my twenty years now,
and that's just something that I did. It's not who
I am. So that's why I stopped. But I still
teach because that's my way of giving back, you know,
or whatever. So but yeah, I mean, nursing is very
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you can make lots of money, and you know, I
have the same degree as nurse practitioners. I just didn't
want to go into that because I don't want the
liability that comes with being a nurse practitioner. And I
knew that nursing wasn't always where I was going to be.
I didn't know what else I wanted to do, but
I just knew that.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
That wouldn't have final stuff in your.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Life, right exactly.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
I mean, let me ask you this, Ms Cotton. I'm
talking to Holly Cotton. She's a best selling author of
Media Personality, Life Coach, Go Guru podcast Hope. Just see
these additional credits. I didn't read at the top, you know,
because you got a lot going on. I'm gonna just
tell you that right now.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
I do.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Let me ask you this. Stereotypes they come with nursing
because you have a master's degree, because I you know,
you know, I have a sister law. She's a nurse,
very talented nurse in the Houston, Texas market. What stereotypes
do you feel that people need? Just this is nurses
are way more than this or stop thinking this all
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nurses do. Can you help us out right now, educate us?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yes, for sure, for sure. So nursing. Actually, you don't
ever have to even touch someone in nursing, and when
people see nursing they automatically assume hospital or retirement home
or something like that, you know, home health nurse. And honestly,
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probably in the last I don't know, twelve thirteen years,
maybe more than that, I haven't touched anyone in forever,
other than I had to do CPR on some people
a few times because they were they had coded, But
other than that, you know. So I think that's the
biggest stereotype people have with nursing. And it's great for
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new nurses because I do think that new nurses need
to go all and work in the hospital or somewhere
where they can get hands on care because it is
critical thinking. But you know, I mean I've been in
management again, I teach, you know, I'm a college professor,
so you know, there's so many other routes. I know,
I have a friend that's the nurse, and she's actually
in pharmaceutical sales. You know, she's never ever practiced as
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a nurse, like ever ever, She's never done bedside. So
I think that's the biggest stigma a lot of people have,
is that they automatically assume they're going to have to
go and do shots and I don't like blood or
I don't like this, And you know, that's that's so
small of of a genre of nursing that there is, Like,
there's so many other things that you can do. You know,
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I work for a healthcare company. I work as a
director of nursing and management all of these other roles.
So that's the biggest thing I would say.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
You know, now, just get into your lifestyle. You know,
because your lifestyle, you know, you're very energetic. You can
tell by your voice that you you know you when
you have some say you're going to say it, say
it with energy. Now you embrace a holistic lifestyle. Now,
there are a lot of catchphrases out there, and the
worst holistic it seems to be one of those catchphrases
(09:12):
that is very popular, especially on social media. Now, what
exactly is holistic And when you tie the word lifestyle too,
what exactly is a holistic lifestyle?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
So a holistic lifestyle is basically when you're talking about body, mind,
spirit all in sync. So whatever it is that you believe, whatever,
whatever it is that you use to keep your mind
at peace, you're talking about, you know, spirituality. Some people
do meditation, some people believe in Jesus, some people. You know,
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whatever it is that you practice, it keeps you grounded.
And then you have to talk about your mental health.
You have to think about your physical health, you know.
And I also say, for me, holistic also includes financial
health because even though we're talking about spirituality, I can
link spirituality into mental but I believe that the actual
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triage to have a holistic healthy lifestyle is that your
your finances, your mental health, and your physical health are
all in sync. Because if your money ain't right, now
you can't afford to go to the gym, or now
you know, you can't afford to to do pay your bills,
So now your mental health is off. Now you may
not have somewhere to stay. Now you can't now you know,
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now your mental health is off because you're stressed out
about bills, so you you don't feel like going to
the gym. Now you you know, now you're introverted. You
don't want to go out, and you can't afford to
go anywhere. And then of course physical health comes into
that because now you can't, you might be unhealthy. Now
you're overweight, you aren't working out. So I feel like
if that's that's the triangle for me for holistic, but
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you know, really, instead of financial, most people say it's spirituality,
but I say it's financial because if if money ain't right,
everything is off, that's.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Hold agree with you and that because I'm telling you
so I can pray about money, but I need money
and make me feel good about that prayer. Okay, I'm
just gonna let you know. You can pray about it,
but that money showed, but doing it right. And I'm
not saying it in a joking manner because I think
that everybody has faith, and if you have a faith,
you should hold oad to that. And I always tell people.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I always say, whatever it is that you believe in,
believe and go hard. But I'll tell you this, God's
not giving giving you an idea or he's not giving
you shrinks for you not to do the work and
come up with the plans. So he's gonna motivate me
or I'm gonna get that that spirituality going. But unless
I'm the one that's executing it and getting my money right,
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then I'm gonna still be in the same like, do
we have.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Voice with him money?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Right?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
We're talking to Holly Cotton, Holly Cotton, High Cotton, I
would call you High Cotton, Holly Cotton. She is a
master's degree in nursing, best selling author, breast cancer Survivor.
We won't talk about that in the next break because
I want to talk about the physicality. But before we
go to break, you mentioned something in the whole triage
of a holistic lifestyle was mental health. And you know,
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in the black community, just being announcing that you're stressing
has been a no note. What do you think has
been a shift? And social media helped the black community
open up more about the issues and concerns and seeking
help in regards to therapy and acknowledging that stress does
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play a world in a black person's life. Can you
expound on that?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yes, for sure, I definitely think social media is that
and also I think that the resources are there. When
you're thinking about ten, fifteen, twenty years ago, everything was
the mentality of suck it up, moving on. You know.
Even me, when I think about growing up, my mom
was like, all right, you have a bad day, okay,
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So what you're gonna do sit around and cry about it? Like,
mental health was not something that we talked about. So
social media is definitely an influence on it because younger
people are being able to identify, hey, I'm having some
of these thoughts or hey, I'm having some of these behaviors.
I see now that these are warning signs for anxiety
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or you know, put paranoia or depression or whatever. So
they're able to identify it sooner because of the resources.
So for me, social media, I feel is basically like
one of those airplanes in the sky that where they're
writing the words in the sky or the banner behind it.
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That's what social media does. It's like, hey, let's highlight this,
Hey come see this, come over here, this is something
that's going on. And so I think that the way
that people are having access to it is what it
is that's destigmatizing, because it's also making these communities where
people are like Oh, I feel that way too. Oh,
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I think I'm doing this and then they have these
little sects that they form where they can come together
and it's a safe place. So that's more of what
I think, rather than social media being the main of
you know, like, oh, this is it, this is this
is the biggest thing ever that you know, social media
is doing all of this. I think it's just the
fact that it's the exposure and then having the resources
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that we didn't have before.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
We're talking to missus. Holly Cotton would be right back
with more money making conversation and talk about her. She's
the best selling authore, so I know she has some
books we want to talk about on the other side
of the break. But more importantly, I am a cancer
styroid cancer survivor. She is a breast cancer survivor, and
I know what my experience is. I always like to
share it on the air because I hit a trigger
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point in my life when I realized the doctor shared
the word cancer and how I reacted to it and
I couldn't stop my life. And we're going to hear
how she reacted to it when she was told that
she had cancer. Right back.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Please don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with more
money Making Conversations Masterclass. Welcome back to the Money Making
Conversations Masterclass, hosted by Rashaan McDonald Holly Cotton.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
She is a weldness expert and registered nurse. You know
she has a master's degree in nursing. Nursing. She's based
now and she's Louisiana girl who's now based in Houston, Texas.
When you talk about survival, and in twenty fifteen, I
a doctor told me I had cancer. And then he
said the word treatable, right rich, But I didn't hear
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the word treatable. All I heard was cancer and it
was fiver or cancer. Then he told me I had
and it was the most shocking and most jarring word
I had ever heard in my life. You know, you
read about it, you see it on TV, you heard
about fundraiser. But when that doctor told me that, I
will literally tell anybody, little retell anybody, my life did
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flash before my eyes. I talked about my I talk
about my talk about my family. I talked about where
I was at my life. I talked about but I
will tell you in the end when I when it
stopped flashing, I felt good about my life where I
was at in my life, And I think it's really
important people hear that because you never know when you
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get a statement. You never know we're going in that
car accident. You never know when that moment might come.
You just want to make sure when when you hear
the words or you're getting near the end, make sure
your life you feel good about it. Make sure you're
doing the things you want to do in your life
currently and meeting their dreams and expectations that you want now,
what other people want, what you want, and getting an
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other life now. In your bio, Rich Cotton is uh
brought to my attention that to your breast cancer survivor,
can you tell us about that when you was, when
you was exposed to the information and how you dealt
with it?
Speaker 3 (16:57):
For sure?
Speaker 1 (16:58):
And I've told this story so any time the same
as you. Boat is called Strong more than Muscles, which
is my autobiography about my story about having breast cancer.
So it was kind of I've been a nurse, so
for me. Twenty twelve, October twelfth, twenty twelve celebrated every
year as my cancer versary, and that was the day
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that I found out A week and a half before that,
I felt to lump when I was getting out of
the shower, and I immediately knew it was cancer. I
just I could tell. I mean, I had been a
nurse for you know, however long. I could tell the
way that it felt. I'm the location of it. And
I was just like, oh my god, now I got cancer.
What am I going to you know, I got stuff
to do. So that was my thought process and so
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but it was the same thing. I still wanted them
to tell me that it wasn't cancer, even though I
knew that or it was. But I got the call
and my doctor was like, you have cancer. You know
it is. It is cancer. You need to go see
the doctor. So like the next week, I was already
in the cologists. We were already talking about surgery and
all of that. And so for me, I always make
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the comparison that I was the physically. I was physically
strongest out of my entire life. At that moment. I
could do pull ups. I was like doing twenty pull ups,
which you know for a girl, that's that's good. I
was the push up queen. Like I was doing insanity.
Remember when insanity without and all of the DVDs, so
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I was doing all of that. So for me, I
was the healthiest and the strongest version up until then
that I had ever been. So for me to get
cancer was I was completely blindsided. I didn't even smoke.
I mean I didn't even drink. I've never smoked. So
I'm like, why did this happen to me? When I
have all these unhealthy family members and friends? Like why
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is this me? And so, you know, at that point,
I was in survival mode and I didn't have time
to go back and forth. You know, I had two
young kids. I need to figure out what to do.
But after I went through all of my surgeries and
my treatments and everything, I started, I was angry and
I was very upset, and I said, why is this happening?
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Why did this happen to me? Why am I going
through this? And I was angry for a little while
because I had lived a great, healthy lifestyle and now
I couldn't even put my hair in a ponytail, because
I couldn't even extend my arms, I couldn't bend over
to shave my legs, and I was very resentful. But
then I had the shift where I said, why me?
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Instead of the angry why mean, I was like, why
am I still here? And I started becoming a breast
cancer advocate. My doctor gave my phone number to other patients,
and I was talking to people. They would call me
when they just got diagnosed, and you know, I would
tell them about my stories what to expect because I
didn't have that, you know, there was no one telling
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me what was going to happen and what to expect.
So I told him about the test, I told them
about treatment, I told them about this, I told him
about that, you know, And so I realized that my
why was I was still here to be that person
for whoever needed it. And that's why I wrote my
first book, because I wanted to share my story. And
I mean, my book is still sold all across the world,
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I mean not to Like two or three months ago,
someone from Romania, you know, messaged me that they gave
their mom my book. She said she couldn't put it down.
She read it in the day she just got diagnosed
with cancer. So that meant a lot to me that
my book is still you know, circulating, and it's still
that way. But that's my story about the same thing.
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I was like, this isn't fair, This isn't right, and
I was upset, But now I feel that my why
because I would have never gone off into this other
path that I'm on right now. I would have still
been a nurse, still just going to work, still doing whatever.
But when I wrote that first book, it opened a
whole nother path in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
But I have a question. I want to follow up
with it because if I was reading, you say that
pain will push you, that pain will push you to
your purpose, that you can be sexy in a mom
that you can be a professional and still follow your
entrepreneurial goals. I want to inspire and motivate women to
live their dreams and stop settling for just living. I
want to stay authentic to my mission of changing the
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world by empowering others to be their best self and
highlighting their triumphs. Do you feel because of your survival
that's your purpose now?
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Oh? For sure? For sure I feel that when I
walk in the room, I want my brand of Hollycotton
to be all of that. Someone told me to write
down what it is that I want people to see
when they look at me, or when people look at
my social media or after people have a conversation with me,
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and that's that wrote down. And I hear people that
say that to me all the time, and I'm like, yes,
I am where I'm supposed to be doing what I'm
supposed to be doing, because there is a woman that's
watching me right now that's going through something. It doesn't
even have to be cancer. But we gonna rock the bikini.
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We're gonna show them that we bosses. I'm a mom,
I'm gonna pick up and go on a vacation. I'm
gonna do whatever. I'm gonna eat me a cheesecake. I
just live my life every day that I don't need
a vacation from. And that's what I want to show people.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Awesome. Now you have some books. I want definitely get
those out. You have a series of books, at least
you want to talk about those.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Yes, I would love to. So I happen to on
your magic and so I wanted to give back because
you know, just like you said, Rashaun, you go through
you start doing these other things no matter where you are,
but you still gotta have a sense of purpose on
why you're doing it. Right, So for me, I was like, ooh,
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this money's showings. This feels good, okay, okay, And then
last year I was like, ah, I just feel like
I lost my sense of purpose because all I'm doing
is this other part. So I wanted to come back
to give back. So my initiative this year is adolescent
mental health because I wanted to go back and give
those kids because I wasn't always there for my kids.
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I know a lot of parents are in provider mode
and we weren't giving kids that offer up. Put the Freeze,
Your Mind, Your Magic, and there's four books in it,
and basically it's the scenario on one side, and then
it's affirmations on the other side of what it's like
to grow up. So it's anywhere from late elementary till
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high school and it's different things, different topics, and then
it's affirmations and it's teaching kids how to speak life
into themselves, how to build mental toughness. And also I
wanted to create a way to have dialogue opening between
a parent and a child, so you can come in
the room and give this to your kids, or your
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kid can be reading it and they can say something
to you, or you can ask them, hey, are you
feeling that way, do you have body dysmorphia? Are you
feeling like you're in a toxic relationship? Are you getting
pressured for sex or are you feeling this way? Are
you worried about having responsibilities now? Is it? How do
you feel about being independent? So it's four series. I
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mean it's four books in the series, one for girls
and boys, one specifically for young men, so it's topics
that young men face, and then one for special needing
kids because the wording is a little different so that
they can retain the information. And then I'll also have
one for chronic illness kids diabetic cancer or whatever, so
kids at Saint Jude or any type of sickness or whatever.
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They can also have that to where it talks about
disabilities and you know, live in what chronic illnesses and stuff.
So there's four books, and also have them all written
in espaniol so to reach a broader audience as well,
so they actually come in Spanish too.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
You have a lot to say, and I'm proud you
came on my show to say some of it. Because
you ain't saying all. I'll just let you know that,
Holly Cotton, you know you are high Cotton. Okay, eh,
c for sure. But you know, I always enjoy interviews
that have a base of honesty tied to it. And
your story has a base of honesty, and then you've
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taken that storyline, that sadness and converted it into a purpose.
And that purpose is really important. And that's all I
want people to hear. The big takeaway from this show
is that you can get hitting the gut, get hit
upside the head with a baseball bat, get pushed down
in the mud, but just don't stay down. Just don't
(25:45):
let people whoever push you in the back. You ain't
got to retaliate. Just understand that you have a force
inside of you that can cause other people to change
if you use it for positivity. And that's what miss
Cotton's doing. And how can we reach you of social media?
Do you have a website? Before we wrap up this
call this Cotton, Yes for.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Sure, for sure. And one last thing I wanted to say,
ver Sean, is that when you find that purpose, when
you live your life authentically, when you are where you're
supposed to be, everything that you do will align with
your purpose. The money is going to come. You're doing
what you're supposed to do. But not only that, but
the people that you impact and inspire is priceless. The
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rones that you get in, the networking that comes all
of that. The money is great, but having those things
are priceless as well. So super easy. I'm Hollycotton dot com, Www,
h O L L Y C O T T O
N dot com, Instagram, Hollycotton Underscore. Everything is Hollycotton, Hollicotton,
(26:48):
Holly Cotton. My new like I said, my new initiative,
Your Mind, Yourmagic dot com super easy. You can get
my books global distribution anywhere that sells books. You can
get Born to Nobles amazonbviously it's the cheaper, or you
can come to my website and get it. I have
ebook versions as well. I'm looking to network with any
type of not politicians, of camp, sports foundations, all of
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that stuff. If you're looking. You guys are worrying about
getting these kids in football camps and basketball camps and
making them physically strong, but we need to focus on
them being mentally tough and strong as well. So holler
at me.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Thank you for coming to my show. Holly Cotton, She's
a winner. This has been another edition of Money Making
Conversation Masterclass. Hosted by me Rashaun McDonald. Thank you to
our guests on the show today and thank you listening
to the audience now. If you want to listen to
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Join us next week and remember to always leave with
your gifts. Keep winning.
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
I am Rashan McDonald, a host of weekly Money Making
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provides are for everyone. It's time to stop reading other
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let's get this show started.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Well.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Well well, Rashan McDonald, keep winning? What does that mean?
That means that when you think there's not an opportunity
for you to be successful, keep winning, keep pushing forward.
I have an interesting fact to tell people today. I
will tell people never allow age to be an excuse.
In twenty twenty four, more than four million people reached
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the age of sixty five years of age in twenty
twenty four. Now, when the Social Security was established way
back in nineteen thirty five, the average age is expectancy
was sixty three. So in a way, the social security
system is broke because people are out living. In nineteen
thirty five, they thought they will live beyond sixty three
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years of age. Four million people reach the age of
sixty five and twenty twenty four, and I'm one of
them and happy about it. And I will never allow
an age or my age to stop me from planning
my next business opportunity, playing my next vacation, Playing my
next house is available for me to buy up there,
Planning my next car if is available for me to
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buy out there, playing my next opportunity, to dream beyond
ten years, twenty years, thirty years, forty years. I'm dreaming
like that because I will not allow age to be
an excuse. I will not allow my age anybody around me,
even if you're twenty, don't let nobody tell you what
you can't do when you're twenty thirty. Don't let nobody
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tell you what you can't do because you're thirty, forty fifty.
I'm just telling everybody, we've allowed the system to tell
us what we're supposed to be doing at a certain age.
Throw it out the window. Throw it out the window.
It don't work. Moving forward, We've got social media out there.
Social media out there, we can promote ourselves and everything.
My guest is a wellness expert, registered nurse, best selling author,
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breast cancer survivor, life coach with a master's degree in nursing.
Please welcome the Money Making Conversation master class. Holly Cotton,
how you doing, my friend?
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Hey? Hih That intro made me sound fancy. Thank you. Well.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
You know, all I can do is tell the truth,
and that's the key, you know, I'm not making any
of these things up. What exactly when we get started,
Miss Cotton? What exactly where are you based at?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
By the way, I am in Houston, Texas.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Is that where you were born? Or did you just
transplant into the Texas market.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
No, I transplanted. I'm actually born and raised in home
of Louisiana, graduated from high school, went to LSU, lived
in DC for a few years, and then came to
Houston and I've been here ever since.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Was great Houston. Houston as well I was born and raised,
so you're never here a negative thing about Houston from
Rachelle McDonald. I think it's the best restaurants in the
world or in Houston, Texas. That's me. I'm a big foodie,
so I tell everybody wherever I go, Houston is the
place to eat. Now let's get back to you, Miss Cotton.
A master's degree in nursing.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Why Honestly, I needed some money, and I knew a
trade was the best way to go about that. So
I always knew that nurturing and doing that whole thing
was kind of where I wanted to go. So I
tried all the different paths, all the you know, every
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time you major in something in college, you're like, ooh
I want to do sociology. Oh I want to do this,
Oh I want to do that. And so so I
got caught up in college and had a baby, and
I was like, Okay, I need to get a trade
really quick. So I actually started with my associate degree
in nursing, and then of course went back and got
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my you know, my masters or whatever, so that I
could do obviously more things in nursing. But yep, that's
how I ended up. Nursing found me. So here I
am still.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Well because you know, I always ask people, you know,
my degrees in mathematics, and mathematics basically found me because
I went to college for seven years dancing around trying
to find some instructor, some instruct that the users used
to was just gonna give me some easy grades. I
never found that instructor, by the way, just good. Never
found that instructor. But I was looking for I was
looking for I was looking for four and a half years.
Then somebody said, boy, stop looking at and open that
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book and started studying and I graduated two and a
half years later in mathematics. And when you get these degrees,
you know, uh it was financial expectation to that when
you got your master's degree in nursing.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yes, so honestly, when I was in nursing school, because
I went the long way, so I did associate nursing.
Then I did my bachelor's and then I went back
and got my master's. So when I was doing my bachelor's,
I had the worst professor ever, and I was like,
you know what, I want to get my masters so
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that I can teach because I wanted to give back
in some kind of way. So I've always wanted to
give back. So I feel that nursing was a way
for me to sort of be that different but also
have a very lucrative career as well. So that's why
I went to my master's and then I started doing
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all these other things. So I never wanted to go
back and get my doctrine in nursing. I was like, Okay,
I you know, I've done nursing for my twenty years now,
and that's just something that I did. It's not who
I am. So that's why I stopped. But I still
teach because that's my way of giving back, you know,
or whatever. So but yeah, I mean, nursing is very
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you can make lots of money, and you know, I
have the same degree as nurse practitioners. I just didn't
want to go into that because I don't want the
liability that comes with being a nurse practitioner. And I
knew that nursing wasn't always where I was going to be.
I didn't know what else I wanted to do, but
I just knew that.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
That wouldn't have final stuff in your.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Life, right exactly.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
I mean, let me ask you this, Ms Cotton. I'm
talking to Holly Cotton. She's a best selling author of
Media Personality, Life Coach, Go Guru podcast Hope. Just see
these additional credits. I didn't read at the top, you know,
because you got a lot going on. I'm gonna just
tell you that right now.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
I do.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Let me ask you this. Stereotypes they come with nursing
because you have a master's degree, because I you know,
you know, I have a sister law. She's a nurse,
very talented nurse in the Houston, Texas market. What stereotypes
do you feel that people need? Just this is nurses
are way more than this or stop thinking this all
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nurses do. Can you help us out right now, educate us?
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yes, for sure, for sure. So nursing. Actually, you don't
ever have to even touch someone in nursing, and when
people see nursing they automatically assume hospital or retirement home
or something like that, you know, home health nurse. And honestly,
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probably in the last I don't know, twelve thirteen years,
maybe more than that, I haven't touched anyone in forever,
other than I had to do CPR on some people
a few times because they were they had coded, But
other than that, you know. So I think that's the
biggest stereotype people have with nursing. And it's great for
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new nurses because I do think that new nurses need
to go all and work in the hospital or somewhere
where they can get hands on care because it is
critical thinking. But you know, I mean I've been in
management again, I teach, you know, I'm a college professor,
so you know, there's so many other routes. I know,
I have a friend that's the nurse, and she's actually
in pharmaceutical sales. You know, she's never ever practiced as
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a nurse, like ever ever, She's never done bedside. So
I think that's the biggest stigma a lot of people have,
is that they automatically assume they're going to have to
go and do shots and I don't like blood or
I don't like this, And you know, that's that's so
small of of a genre of nursing that there is, Like,
there's so many other things that you can do. You know,
(08:42):
I work for a healthcare company. I work as a
director of nursing and management all of these other roles.
So that's the biggest thing I would say.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
You know, now, just get into your lifestyle. You know,
because your lifestyle, you know, you're very energetic. You can
tell by your voice that you you know you when
you have some say you're going to say it, say
it with energy. Now you embrace a holistic lifestyle. Now,
there are a lot of catchphrases out there, and the
worst holistic it seems to be one of those catchphrases
(09:12):
that is very popular, especially on social media. Now, what
exactly is holistic And when you tie the word lifestyle too,
what exactly is a holistic lifestyle?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
So a holistic lifestyle is basically when you're talking about body, mind,
spirit all in sync. So whatever it is that you believe, whatever,
whatever it is that you use to keep your mind
at peace, you're talking about, you know, spirituality. Some people
do meditation, some people believe in Jesus, some people. You know,
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whatever it is that you practice, it keeps you grounded.
And then you have to talk about your mental health.
You have to think about your physical health, you know.
And I also say, for me, holistic also includes financial
health because even though we're talking about spirituality, I can
link spirituality into mental but I believe that the actual
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triage to have a holistic healthy lifestyle is that your
your finances, your mental health, and your physical health are
all in sync. Because if your money ain't right, now
you can't afford to go to the gym, or now
you know, you can't afford to to do pay your bills,
So now your mental health is off. Now you may
not have somewhere to stay. Now you can't now you know,
(10:28):
now your mental health is off because you're stressed out
about bills, so you you don't feel like going to
the gym. Now you you know, now you're introverted. You
don't want to go out, and you can't afford to
go anywhere. And then of course physical health comes into
that because now you can't, you might be unhealthy. Now
you're overweight, you aren't working out. So I feel like
if that's that's the triangle for me for holistic, but
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you know, really, instead of financial, most people say it's spirituality,
but I say it's financial because if if money ain't right,
everything is off, that's.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Hold agree with you and that because I'm telling you
so I can pray about money, but I need money
and make me feel good about that prayer. Okay, I'm
just gonna let you know. You can pray about it,
but that money showed, but doing it right. And I'm
not saying it in a joking manner because I think
that everybody has faith, and if you have a faith,
you should hold oad to that. And I always tell people.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I always say, whatever it is that you believe in,
believe and go hard. But I'll tell you this, God's
not giving giving you an idea or he's not giving
you shrinks for you not to do the work and
come up with the plans. So he's gonna motivate me
or I'm gonna get that that spirituality going. But unless
I'm the one that's executing it and getting my money right,
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then I'm gonna still be in the same like, do
we have.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Voice with him money?
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Right?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
We're talking to Holly Cotton, Holly Cotton, High Cotton, I
would call you High Cotton, Holly Cotton. She is a
master's degree in nursing, best selling author, breast cancer Survivor.
We won't talk about that in the next break because
I want to talk about the physicality. But before we
go to break, you mentioned something in the whole triage
of a holistic lifestyle was mental health. And you know,
(12:12):
in the black community, just being announcing that you're stressing
has been a no note. What do you think has
been a shift? And social media helped the black community
open up more about the issues and concerns and seeking
help in regards to therapy and acknowledging that stress does
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play a world in a black person's life. Can you
expound on that?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yes, for sure, I definitely think social media is that
and also I think that the resources are there. When
you're thinking about ten, fifteen, twenty years ago, everything was
the mentality of suck it up, moving on. You know.
Even me, when I think about growing up, my mom
was like, all right, you have a bad day, okay,
(12:58):
So what you're gonna do sit around and cry about it? Like,
mental health was not something that we talked about. So
social media is definitely an influence on it because younger
people are being able to identify, hey, I'm having some
of these thoughts or hey, I'm having some of these behaviors.
I see now that these are warning signs for anxiety
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or you know, put paranoia or depression or whatever. So
they're able to identify it sooner because of the resources.
So for me, social media, I feel is basically like
one of those airplanes in the sky that where they're
writing the words in the sky or the banner behind it.
(13:40):
That's what social media does. It's like, hey, let's highlight this,
Hey come see this, come over here, this is something
that's going on. And so I think that the way
that people are having access to it is what it
is that's destigmatizing, because it's also making these communities where
people are like Oh, I feel that way too. Oh,
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I think I'm doing this and then they have these
little sects that they form where they can come together
and it's a safe place. So that's more of what
I think, rather than social media being the main of
you know, like, oh, this is it, this is this
is the biggest thing ever that you know, social media
is doing all of this. I think it's just the
fact that it's the exposure and then having the resources
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that we didn't have before.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
We're talking to missus. Holly Cotton would be right back
with more money making conversation and talk about her. She's
the best selling authore, so I know she has some
books we want to talk about on the other side
of the break. But more importantly, I am a cancer
styroid cancer survivor. She is a breast cancer survivor, and
I know what my experience is. I always like to
share it on the air because I hit a trigger
(14:46):
point in my life when I realized the doctor shared
the word cancer and how I reacted to it and
I couldn't stop my life. And we're going to hear
how she reacted to it when she was told that
she had cancer. Right back.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Please don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with more
money Making Conversations Masterclass. Welcome back to the Money Making
Conversations Masterclass, hosted by Rashaan McDonald Holly Cotton.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
She is a weldness expert and registered nurse. You know
she has a master's degree in nursing. Nursing. She's based
now and she's Louisiana girl who's now based in Houston, Texas.
When you talk about survival, and in twenty fifteen, I
a doctor told me I had cancer. And then he
said the word treatable, right rich, But I didn't hear
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the word treatable. All I heard was cancer and it
was fiver or cancer. Then he told me I had
and it was the most shocking and most jarring word
I had ever heard in my life. You know, you
read about it, you see it on TV, you heard
about fundraiser. But when that doctor told me that, I
will literally tell anybody, little retell anybody, my life did
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flash before my eyes. I talked about my I talk
about my talk about my family. I talked about where
I was at my life. I talked about but I
will tell you in the end when I when it
stopped flashing, I felt good about my life where I
was at in my life, And I think it's really
important people hear that because you never know when you
(16:22):
get a statement. You never know we're going in that
car accident. You never know when that moment might come.
You just want to make sure when when you hear
the words or you're getting near the end, make sure
your life you feel good about it. Make sure you're
doing the things you want to do in your life
currently and meeting their dreams and expectations that you want now,
what other people want, what you want, and getting an
(16:43):
other life now. In your bio, Rich Cotton is uh
brought to my attention that to your breast cancer survivor,
can you tell us about that when you was, when
you was exposed to the information and how you dealt
with it?
Speaker 3 (16:57):
For sure?
Speaker 1 (16:58):
And I've told this story so any time the same
as you. Boat is called Strong more than Muscles, which
is my autobiography about my story about having breast cancer.
So it was kind of I've been a nurse, so
for me. Twenty twelve, October twelfth, twenty twelve celebrated every
year as my cancer versary, and that was the day
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that I found out A week and a half before that,
I felt to lump when I was getting out of
the shower, and I immediately knew it was cancer. I
just I could tell. I mean, I had been a
nurse for you know, however long. I could tell the
way that it felt. I'm the location of it. And
I was just like, oh my god, now I got cancer.
What am I going to you know, I got stuff
to do. So that was my thought process and so
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but it was the same thing. I still wanted them
to tell me that it wasn't cancer, even though I
knew that or it was. But I got the call
and my doctor was like, you have cancer. You know
it is. It is cancer. You need to go see
the doctor. So like the next week, I was already
in the cologists. We were already talking about surgery and
all of that. And so for me, I always make
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the comparison that I was the physically. I was physically
strongest out of my entire life. At that moment. I
could do pull ups. I was like doing twenty pull ups,
which you know for a girl, that's that's good. I
was the push up queen. Like I was doing insanity.
Remember when insanity without and all of the DVDs, so
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I was doing all of that. So for me, I
was the healthiest and the strongest version up until then
that I had ever been. So for me to get
cancer was I was completely blindsided. I didn't even smoke.
I mean I didn't even drink. I've never smoked. So
I'm like, why did this happen to me? When I
have all these unhealthy family members and friends? Like why
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is this me? And so, you know, at that point,
I was in survival mode and I didn't have time
to go back and forth. You know, I had two
young kids. I need to figure out what to do.
But after I went through all of my surgeries and
my treatments and everything, I started, I was angry and
I was very upset, and I said, why is this happening?
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Why did this happen to me? Why am I going
through this? And I was angry for a little while
because I had lived a great, healthy lifestyle and now
I couldn't even put my hair in a ponytail, because
I couldn't even extend my arms, I couldn't bend over
to shave my legs, and I was very resentful. But
then I had the shift where I said, why me?
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Instead of the angry why mean, I was like, why
am I still here? And I started becoming a breast
cancer advocate. My doctor gave my phone number to other patients,
and I was talking to people. They would call me
when they just got diagnosed, and you know, I would
tell them about my stories what to expect because I
didn't have that, you know, there was no one telling
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me what was going to happen and what to expect.
So I told him about the test, I told them
about treatment, I told them about this, I told him
about that, you know, And so I realized that my
why was I was still here to be that person
for whoever needed it. And that's why I wrote my
first book, because I wanted to share my story. And
I mean, my book is still sold all across the world,
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I mean not to Like two or three months ago,
someone from Romania, you know, messaged me that they gave
their mom my book. She said she couldn't put it down.
She read it in the day she just got diagnosed
with cancer. So that meant a lot to me that
my book is still you know, circulating, and it's still
that way. But that's my story about the same thing.
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I was like, this isn't fair, This isn't right, and
I was upset, But now I feel that my why
because I would have never gone off into this other
path that I'm on right now. I would have still
been a nurse, still just going to work, still doing whatever.
But when I wrote that first book, it opened a
whole nother path in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
But I have a question. I want to follow up
with it because if I was reading, you say that
pain will push you, that pain will push you to
your purpose, that you can be sexy in a mom
that you can be a professional and still follow your
entrepreneurial goals. I want to inspire and motivate women to
live their dreams and stop settling for just living. I
want to stay authentic to my mission of changing the
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world by empowering others to be their best self and
highlighting their triumphs. Do you feel because of your survival
that's your purpose now?
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Oh? For sure? For sure I feel that when I
walk in the room, I want my brand of Hollycotton
to be all of that. Someone told me to write
down what it is that I want people to see
when they look at me, or when people look at
my social media or after people have a conversation with me,
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and that's that wrote down. And I hear people that
say that to me all the time, and I'm like, yes,
I am where I'm supposed to be doing what I'm
supposed to be doing, because there is a woman that's
watching me right now that's going through something. It doesn't
even have to be cancer. But we gonna rock the bikini.
(22:14):
We're gonna show them that we bosses. I'm a mom,
I'm gonna pick up and go on a vacation. I'm
gonna do whatever. I'm gonna eat me a cheesecake. I
just live my life every day that I don't need
a vacation from. And that's what I want to show people.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Awesome. Now you have some books. I want definitely get
those out. You have a series of books, at least
you want to talk about those.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Yes, I would love to. So I happen to on
your magic and so I wanted to give back because
you know, just like you said, Rashaun, you go through
you start doing these other things no matter where you are,
but you still gotta have a sense of purpose on
why you're doing it. Right, So for me, I was like, ooh,
(22:56):
this money's showings. This feels good, okay, okay, And then
last year I was like, ah, I just feel like
I lost my sense of purpose because all I'm doing
is this other part. So I wanted to come back
to give back. So my initiative this year is adolescent
mental health because I wanted to go back and give
those kids because I wasn't always there for my kids.
(23:18):
I know a lot of parents are in provider mode
and we weren't giving kids that offer up. Put the Freeze,
Your Mind, Your Magic, and there's four books in it,
and basically it's the scenario on one side, and then
it's affirmations on the other side of what it's like
to grow up. So it's anywhere from late elementary till
(23:39):
high school and it's different things, different topics, and then
it's affirmations and it's teaching kids how to speak life
into themselves, how to build mental toughness. And also I
wanted to create a way to have dialogue opening between
a parent and a child, so you can come in
the room and give this to your kids, or your
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kid can be reading it and they can say something
to you, or you can ask them, hey, are you
feeling that way, do you have body dysmorphia? Are you
feeling like you're in a toxic relationship? Are you getting
pressured for sex or are you feeling this way? Are
you worried about having responsibilities now? Is it? How do
you feel about being independent? So it's four series. I
(24:21):
mean it's four books in the series, one for girls
and boys, one specifically for young men, so it's topics
that young men face, and then one for special needing
kids because the wording is a little different so that
they can retain the information. And then I'll also have
one for chronic illness kids diabetic cancer or whatever, so
kids at Saint Jude or any type of sickness or whatever.
(24:43):
They can also have that to where it talks about
disabilities and you know, live in what chronic illnesses and stuff.
So there's four books, and also have them all written
in espaniol so to reach a broader audience as well,
so they actually come in Spanish too.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
You have a lot to say, and I'm proud you
came on my show to say some of it. Because
you ain't saying all. I'll just let you know that,
Holly Cotton, you know you are high Cotton. Okay, eh,
c for sure. But you know, I always enjoy interviews
that have a base of honesty tied to it. And
your story has a base of honesty, and then you've
(25:23):
taken that storyline, that sadness and converted it into a purpose.
And that purpose is really important. And that's all I
want people to hear. The big takeaway from this show
is that you can get hitting the gut, get hit
upside the head with a baseball bat, get pushed down
in the mud, but just don't stay down. Just don't
(25:45):
let people whoever push you in the back. You ain't
got to retaliate. Just understand that you have a force
inside of you that can cause other people to change
if you use it for positivity. And that's what miss
Cotton's doing. And how can we reach you of social media?
Do you have a website? Before we wrap up this
call this Cotton, Yes for.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Sure, for sure. And one last thing I wanted to say,
ver Sean, is that when you find that purpose, when
you live your life authentically, when you are where you're
supposed to be, everything that you do will align with
your purpose. The money is going to come. You're doing
what you're supposed to do. But not only that, but
the people that you impact and inspire is priceless. The
(26:27):
rones that you get in, the networking that comes all
of that. The money is great, but having those things
are priceless as well. So super easy. I'm Hollycotton dot com, Www,
h O L L Y C O T T O
N dot com, Instagram, Hollycotton Underscore. Everything is Hollycotton, Hollicotton,
(26:48):
Holly Cotton. My new like I said, my new initiative,
Your Mind, Yourmagic dot com super easy. You can get
my books global distribution anywhere that sells books. You can
get Born to Nobles amazonbviously it's the cheaper, or you
can come to my website and get it. I have
ebook versions as well. I'm looking to network with any
type of not politicians, of camp, sports foundations, all of
(27:12):
that stuff. If you're looking. You guys are worrying about
getting these kids in football camps and basketball camps and
making them physically strong, but we need to focus on
them being mentally tough and strong as well. So holler
at me.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Thank you for coming to my show. Holly Cotton, She's
a winner. This has been another edition of Money Making
Conversation Masterclass. Hosted by me Rashaun McDonald. Thank you to
our guests on the show today and thank you listening
to the audience now. If you want to listen to
any episode I want to be a guest on the show,
visit Moneymakingconversations dot com. Social media handle is money Making Conversation.
(27:48):
Join us next week and remember to always leave with
your gifts. Keep winning.
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