November 3, 2025 • 24 mins
Patrick Claybon, Adam Rank, and Cynthia Frelund recap the week’s top performers, including Brock Bowers, Caleb Williams, and Colston Loveland. Then they share their early waiver wire targets and reveal the midseason rookie of the year.
After the break, they play “Panic or Patience” on some underperforming players and discuss Miami coach Mike McDaniel and Colt’s coach Shane Steichen’s quotes after their week nine losses.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
It's a Monday Fantasy line of edition of the Fantasy
Football Podcast. I'm Patrick Claibon and I'll be joined by
Adam Rank and Cynthia Freeland. We'll go through all the
Sunday's top performers, plus whose stock is rising and who
you may want to part ways with. And it's time
to start our mid season Awards. Which rookie tops the
list through the first half of the season. Everybody, Welcome
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to NFL Fantasy That Patrick Clavon here with Adam Rank
and Cynthia Freeland. We've got one more game in Week nine,
meaning when it concludes, we'll be at the midseason. So
we got mid season wants to give the people, and
the people want midseason awards, they really do.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
You know who wants it? The producers run out of ideas. No, no,
we want awards. The people want awards.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Everybody wants an award. Rank you even won an award,
Best Dat Award, Best Soccer Coach Award. You know there's
a lot of awards everyone wants. Everyone's an award.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah, in fact, why don't we dole out some awards
right now? We'll get into our Sunday Studs.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
The guys who went off in Sunday of week nine,
and we will start with a guy who's back and
we're glad to have him back.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Oh my gosh, we needed this in a huge way
for anybody who used a high draft pick on brock Bowers.
If you hear that there's something running around our studio,
we think it's a falcon, but we're not quite sure.
But at any event, brock Bowers was amazing. Thirteen targets
in this game. Props to Gino Smith, who once brock
Bowers returned, he's like, hey, we're not going to ease
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him into the lineup. We're just going to continue to
go after him. He caught twelve of those or twelve
of the thirteen targets, ended up with one hundred and
twenty seven rushing yards in three receiving touchdowns. It is
so great having brock Bowers back, and if you were
able to survive over the last couple of weeks without him,
you sincerely enjoyed his return on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Well, this guy's been playing, but sometimes he doesn't come
up for us, and he seems to be really really
found this past week.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Drake London in London.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Yeah, Okay, yeah, we know, we know it's friends time always,
but ultimately, Drake London had a great week against the Patriots.
Nine receptions on fourteen targets, one hundred and eighteen yards
and three.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Trips to the end zone. It kind of makes up.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
It's so interesting because you look at him his performance
over the course of the season, you're like, there's been
some really big up since some very big downs. So
this is a big up. Maybe next week in Berlin
we'll see another one.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, you know, it's one of those things, like a
lot of ups and downs, like Monica and Chandler's relationship
which started in London. Oh yeah, let's talk about Kayla Williams.
Though a career high thirty eight plus Fantasy points against
the Cincinnati Bengals through for two to eighty, had three
touchdown passes. He also had fifty three rushing yards, but
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one of the most impressive things was the twenty two
receiving yards and a touchdown. He is the first player
with two touchdown passes and two receptions in a game
since Walter Payton in nineteen eighty three. I always joked
that Walter Payton is one of the best bearst quarterbacks
of my lifetime, but he is the third Bears quarterback
in history. I have a passing touchdown and receiving touchdown
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in the same game. Jim McMahon did it in nineteen
eighty five, Carl Brumbaugh did it in nineteen thirty four.
But fun fact, he had more receiving fantasy points this
week than Lad McConkie, Chris alave Teed McMillan, BTJ Rama Dunja,
Keenan Allen, Xavier Worthy, Cortland Sutton, and George Kittle wow
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Cale Williams effective fantasy football receiver.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I knew those, by the way, more than I knew
the friends references, which I did not get. Christian McCaffrey,
Welcome back to my last once again, the RB one.
I've taken a little break in Week eight. He ran
the ball twenty eight times, called them all five times,
for over one hundred and sixty total yards and two scores.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
The first player in Super Bowl in the Super Bowl era.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I have five hundred and fifty rushing yards six hundred
receiving yards through nine games. The Niners don't have a
bye till Week fourteen, so I sew up good Sir,
we're going to need you.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
That's bananas. I didn't realize that. But I'm looking at
T Higgins, and of course you have to talk about
Joe Flacco as well, but T Higgins right now has
thirty three point one Fantasy points. That's number two at
the wide receiver position. You're talking about Joe Flacco after
the game, saying something like, you know.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Yeah, he's really good.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
I thought it was a mistake throwing in that fifty
to fifty ball, and then I just lapped as he
went in the end zone. So I mean, it's just
crazy what this offense is able to do. And this
entire game, nobody wanted to play defense. There was like
forty three big plays, so explosive plays of ten plus
yards either on the ground or through the air.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
So you're pretty.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Happy if you had T Higgins, Joe Flacco, pretty much
anyone on this offense.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Yeah, I was very happy that the Bears had Colston Lovelin,
who had had the winning touchdown against the Cincinnati Bengals
on Sunday, had two touch receptions in this one as
part of a game where he had six receptions overall
for one hundred and eighteen yards.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Of course, to the big play at the end of
the game.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
I'm assuming we're getting to that shot at some point.
He had so many catches it takes a while to
get to him, but big presence and slowly but surely
he's been worked back or worked into this.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Here's a touchdown, O up buy you see ya and
the crowded ups.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
It's in Cincinnati, but you would have thought it was
a Bears home game as he was galloping into the
end zone. I feel the worst for the people who've
been running on those Hey, they should have drafted Tyler
Warden or Ronde Gadstein memes over the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Looks silly.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Now, this is what the Bears thought they were getting
when they drafted him with the ninth overall selection. Hopefully
this is just something that they build on moving forward.
But given Ben Johnson's history and the way he uses
tight ends, there's good reason to believe that Colson Lovelin
will continue to be involved in the Bears offense.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
A big game from Colston Lovelin and we got a
twenty eight point game from a guy who scores.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Twenty eight pens points all the time.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
It's Josh Allen actually the same number of points as
team scored against the Kansas City Chiefs, as they beat
the Chiefs. Once again, the guy who has more games
with a passing and rushing touchdown than anyone in NFL
history had.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Another game with both.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
In fact, they had two rushing scores and they got
the Fins next week. So yeah, congratulations on the managers
who once again have Josh Allen and fantasy football center.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Yeah, I mean, look, you got him.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
And then, of course, just like everyone drew it up,
Rico Dawdle against the Packers, the Packers who are really
good at stopping the run until Rico Dada exploded for
one hundred and thirty yards a two touchdowns along with
a couple of receptions for those PPR fans and eleven
more receiving yards.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
It was a little shocking what happened at lambeau Field.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Nonetheless, I don't know if anyone necessarily had this being
such a great game for Dowell, but hey man, we'll
take it. And if his coach says he's amazing, and
he was averaging five point seven yards FORER attempt before
this one, and then in that game they're averaging seven
yards per play great.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
I think both me and Raank will.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Agree that anytime we see the Packers giving up seven
point seven yards replay, we're gonna be happy with it.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
We're with that, Okay, no profit, And of course Rico
manager is happy where chub Hubber gets the deal last year.
But ric o'dowell has been so good it's hard for
Dave Canalis and the Panthers to give the ball to
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Speaker 1 (07:31):
Terms and embargoes apply.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Let's talk about the waiver wire in case you don't
have access to these guys.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Who are you targeting right now? Early on Monday, right
one of the first guys I'm looking at.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
I saw his name out there, Josh Downs, who's available
in sixty percent of NFL dot com leagues.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Now, of course your.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Leagues might vary, and it's one of the Again, I
was surprised, as anybody I had to go out there
and see Josh Downs available. I saw Sam Laporta available
in one of my leagues, and I was tempting to
put it down. I'm like, he's available, he's rostered. I
need seven percent of leagues. It's nice to know I'm
in one of the three percent of leagues. But Josh
Downs has a receiving touchdown in three consecutive games. Despite
the fact that the Colts lost on Sunday at Pittsburgh,
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I still believe that you can go out there and
count of this team to move the ball offensively. This
week they've got the Atlanta Falcons. So Josh Downs, if
he's available, don't tweet me and be like, hey, listen,
he was done. Okay, fine, you're the king of threads,
then okay, I appreciate you. But Josh Down to somebody
that I'm looking at.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
Ninety one percent of NFL dot com leagues have available
for your pleasure, AJ Barner, you might need a tight end.
This is a great one to consider. So Sam Narnold
is absolutely dealing. This offense looks incredible and AJ Barner
has made a trip to the end zone in four
of his last five games.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
I'm looking at the opportunity here.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
I know that you know obviously they were without Cooper
Cup last night didn't really matter. They spread the love
round quite a bit. No one on this team has
more red zone targets this season. Now part of that
is because Jackson Smith and but he kind of like
runs after the cash but like a billion yards and
doesn't need to be targeted in the red area. But
they're still going to need to target guys in the
red area. And it's going to be a Jay barner.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
I'm gonna go into a Seahawks as well, and this
will be hotly contested. Considering what he did on Monday
Night football, Tory Gordon had twenty Fantasy points as wide
receiver seven thus far in Week nine. His six scores
are the most by Seahawks rookie wide receiver since dk
Metcalfs first season in Seattle. And exciting rookie, and there's
quite a few exciting.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Rookies this year.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
As we get to our Fantasy mid season awards, these
are awards we give near the middle of the season.
We're not saying anybody's season is mid because that would
be you know me, like like the Cowboys defense. But
all week we're going to be making nominations for mid
season awards tweet us at NFL Fantasy because we're gonna
have the votes for you to vote on the players
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that we nominate. So let's start with the mid season
Rookie of the Year, Cynthia, who do you offer for
the people?
Speaker 4 (09:59):
I offer a a Tyler Warren.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Why.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Well, this Indianapolis Colt is just you know, averaging one hundred. Well,
he has the second most Fantasy points among tight ends
and that's actually the most among rookie tight ends through
the first nine weeks in Colt's history.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
He's kind of on pace too.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
I don't know, potentially contest brock Bauers record that held
since Mike Ditka prior to that. So I think Tyler
Warren is one of the keys that unlocks everything for
this cold stefense. And you know, obviously Bears fans wish
they could have Tyler Warren Elveza nobodys.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
No, okay, got it. Just just making sure.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I'm gonna touchdowns as he had this season three, just
one more than Colston Lovelin who missed a couple of games.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Just say, yeah, who's doing nominally right?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
I'm gonna go with the Mecca on Buka, who has
been averaging more than fifteen Fantasy points per game, and
this has been a player that has saved a lot
of seasons when you think about some of the injuries
at the wide receiver position.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Malik neighbors players like that if you.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Also had a Mecca at Buka, who I have so
many shares of because I was drafting him he was
my wide receiver three or four that he was a
player that I wanted to leave my drafts with. And
now he has become one of the most dependable players
for me as other guys have fallen off, some other
guys have battled through injuries. I have a team at
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Puka and Aku and the league neighbors, and I knew
it was gonna be a little bit risky, and so
I'm like, well, I'll take a Mecca a book and
see what happens. And he has been keeping me afloat.
Now he's coming back after the buye and I expect
him to continue that torrid pace in the second half
of the season.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Well, you guys will leave me a quarterback to tay,
so I will take Jackson Dart, who has the third
most Fantasy points per game as a rookie since nineteen seventy.
We talked about Josh Allen's prediction for games with a
passing touchdown and a rushing touchdown. Jackson Dart has done
it in five of his first six career games, and
that's why he is my nominee for Fantasy Rookie of
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the mid Season thus far.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
So let's get a drum roll, folks, and we'll figure
out who you.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Guys voted for and the result is that we're finally
out now live.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Right, You've done it. You nominated Maka Buka and he has.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Won forty I was first of the homework. That was
pretty much what that was right there. Just he has
been the guy that is bullied a lot of teams.
A great surprise and far and away the rookie there
it could be.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
A league winner. We got more coming up here on
NFL Fantasy Live, including an opportunity.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
To see all it was a rough one for Dimes
and company against the Steelers. Was that a minor moment
of drama in an otherwise fairy tale season?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Or is Daniel Jones starting.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
To turn back into a pumpkin Bibbity Bobby Boo, the
fantasy manager who ignores our advice right after this, Welcome
back to Fantasy Live. Sunday, the NFL takes the field
in Berlin for the first time as the Falcons square
off against the Colts and historic early morning showdown. So
get ready to wake up and watch, because here our stars.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Come out in the morning. It's Sunday Morning Football Sunday.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Nine thirty am Eastern only on NFL Network and streaming
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dot NFL dot com for terms. It's not for panic
or patients here on NFL Fantasy Live. What I have
in my hands here is a panic button which signals
to fantasy managers the universe over whether it's time to
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flip out and start to find a new solution to
a particular spot on your roster.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
And we will start with Adam Rick.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Okay, we'll start with one of your favorite teams. As
is the time for the quarterback twenty two Jordan Love
to cause us to pin.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I'm gonna be honest, sitting there outside of the Bears
winning that game on Sunday, watching Jordan Love run around
and throw a yellow ball that was nowhere near one
of his receivers, Shaw said, you absolutely must.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Not panic on this.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Let's be series. Even even me hater mc paterson understands it.
While it was a poor game, it is the first
time all season Jordan Love did not have a pass
in a game.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
He's still a pretty good quarterback.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
And the Packers, though, had been prone to these kind
of performances. You think about the game against the Cleveland Browns,
who I understandably the Browns do have a good defense.
The Dallas Cowboys do not. There was no reason to
tie that game. He's going to be just fine, Packers fans.
I believe me, He's going to be fine.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
All right, Let's go over to the other sideline, because
Cuba Hubbard Cynthia was the RB fifty four. Rico has
charged all the way in and taken the spot.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Are we panicking on Cuba?
Speaker 5 (14:32):
I'll be Hadi Mchaderson. Bang that button, mash that button.
Panic Cuba Hubbard. Well, this is the staff that I like.
He has the third fewest rushing yards over expected at
negative fifty seven, so he's underperformed by fifty seven yards.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Rigo dwell.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
He has the third most such yards at positive one
seventy two. That is like an over two hundred yard swing,
which is a huge difference and very much a reason
why this team is five and four and over five hundred.
So in the twenty percent snapshare for Harvard, I'm out.
I'm out, Katie Mchaterton or whatever we're calling you.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Pater Mchatterson.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
It's just it's an evaluation of the circumstances like ones
that people have had earlier on in the season for
Alvin Kamara.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
And I was one of the first people to be.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Like, hey, guys, this Salvin Kamara is one of the
best receiving backs of all time, which is why it's okay,
no bad, so very bad, and I'm sad about it
because Alvin Kamara ran the ball six.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Times for fourteen yards, only got three targets. Again, one
of the best receiving backs to ever play football ever. Ever.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yes, panic, indeed, and we'll keep the the running back
theme going, especially veterans because rank we had another RJ.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Harvey game for the Denver Broncos. Did you have vision
jury on them? You're looking into the mirror, yes, to
see a little bit clear now usually, but I'm not well.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Actually I am well because I do have plenty of
R J. Harvey and my fantasy lineups and rosters. This
is one where I feel like, Okay, this one I
got right where I was out on Jabi, I should
have been it on Jamonte Williams.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
It was JK. Dobbins and listen, JK. Dobbins is a value.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
He's a good player, like there's nothing wrong with it,
but the production just hasn't been there. He's averaged less
than ten Fantasy points in each of the last four games.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
We're seeing more and more RJ. Harvey.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
This is something that we thought was going to happen
at some point.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
This season, that r J. Harvey would take over.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Something that people thought was going to happen earlier in
the season was Daniel Jones having a bad game. It
didn't happen until the Colts turn the ball over six times. Cynthia,
is it time to panic on senior Dimes?
Speaker 3 (16:44):
No?
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Absolutely not no, or Nama, stay y'all in Deutschland. He
will redeem himself. Even though the Falcons have a good
pass defense. We're going to be very calm. He's still
threw for three hundred and forty two yards any touchdown.
Also looking at the opportunity here for the old line
to figure some things out.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
How they five sacks taken, that's crazy.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
They didn't even have a lot of pressure, so it
was super efficient when they did get to Daniel Jones.
This is just one of those games that this is
something that happens, y'all. Perhaps they should have, I don't know,
figured out some of a little bit more of a
game plan on the ground kept Daniel Jones from being
That first drive was fine, fourteen plays and a first
and then all of a sudden, something weird happens and
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then poof.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
We don't know what happens, but this is that's how
it works.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah, sometimes things go wrong and sometimes panic early. The
panic button never lies. It may be a touch early occasionally,
but it does not lie.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Other folks, we can't say that about all the times
we unveil a new bit of technology here. Cynthia Freeland
has created a lot of devices in her time. But
now the coach speak loud detector tells us whether we
get truth, have truths in the model as well, or
just outright lies. So, Cynthia, let's start in Miami, where
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the head coach of the Dolphins addressed some rumors about
a potential quarterback change.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
I'm far from even going down that direction of would
have could have possible things. We have a football game
against the Buffalo Bills that you know, we are certain
that Tua gives us the best chance to win.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Okay, Cynthia, what does your model tell you about what
coach Mike Mix said regarding to a tongue of bailoa.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
So just so you know, we have five different designations,
so the truth teller talk, that's the best you can be.
He's the second highest number. So about seventy five percent
truth here. This is a possibly precise pronouncement. Why because
if you think about it, he's actually not lying. We
are certain that Tua gives us the best chance to win.
When you have the better until that changes, you know,
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until they ask some other players maybe that could give
them a better chance to win. Then he's absolutely right.
He's not saying two is the best quarterback in the
entire NFL. He's saying, to is the guy on our
team that we have that's the best one in his
physician So to me, he's telling the truth.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
It just could also not be true at a later time.
But when he said it, that was true.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
All right.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Well, there's no question regarding Jonathan Taylor's position in terms
of running backs in the National Football League.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Shane Stichen, talking.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
About the forty five yards on fourteen carries from JT
this weekend.
Speaker 7 (19:24):
I think I could have been more balanced there, probably
in the first half. You know, I thought we moved
the ball really well on that first drive, and then
I think, you know, we had some opportunities there.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Obviously.
Speaker 7 (19:35):
I think to start the second quarter we were driving
pretty good, you know, up seven to nothing, had a
chance there, and that's when the sack fumble happened. You know,
you always look back at those situations and heyshoot, maybe
I could have called the run here, Maybe I could
have called the run there. And again that's that's all
part of evaluation process. When you go through games, whether
you win or lose, you're always trying to get better
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in every aspect your game as a coach and as
a player.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
He puts it on stuff I could have cut over
on here there. What's the leader say, Cynthy.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
I could have been watching and potentially shifted the universe
as well. To me, this is a set a sketchy statement.
Why it's about twenty five percent he's just shouldering the
blame for a situation that, like we talked about before.
I mean, sure, of course he would have loved to
have some of those calls back, and of course he
wouldn't have liked a fumble, and of course he wouldn't
have liked those three interceptions to happen. He would have
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liked to call different play there. So that's why it's
not lyinglier who lies. But this is when coaches just
shoulder the responsibility. It's part of being a coach. We're
going to say sometimes you have to you know, be
a little bit, you know, set a sketchy statement. You
have to be a little sketch if you're a coach,
because you can't just be like yep, o line in
this one not what I was expecting. Yep, run game
didn't work out, yep, game script, yep, Nope, it's thrown
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on everyone else. No, it's always the coach's responsibility. So
just set a sketchy statement. But we kind of like
Shane Steichen for it, because I mean, what's he gonna
do is be like, yeah, we Dannel Jones didn't have
a good game.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
He was terrible.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
It's not going to dime out dimes or just straight
on and tell us that, you know, talk about the possibility
of us not being.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
There at some point for the football game. That's the
thing that could have happened. We got more coming up.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
I love the debut of Cynthia's Coach Speak Live Detectors.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
We're back on NFL Fantasy Live. Let's get your weekly.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Stockwatch for fantasy players, which is silly until you think
about how real markets work.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
It's not for stock up stock town.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Cynthia, what's your stock evaluation fantasy football wise this week?
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Well, sometimes we like the way something's named on the
stock market, and that's why people buy it. But I
like the name Basil Tutan and he also happens to
be a buy.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
I'm putting a huge buy rating on him. We saw
against Vegas this week.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Okay, so nine point six fantasy points, so that's number
twenty four. But he's starting to get more and more
of the share things are starting to kind of eke
in and take some of Travis Etn's lunch.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
So I'm looking at Basil Touton.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
I like the stock ticker symbol, I like everything about it.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
I'm looking for up.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
Until the right and I'm investing in him now it
might just be a fluke, So maybe we buy the dip.
But Romo Dunza, here the stock went in a game
where there was five bajillion points and five bajillion deep plays.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
This was not a good you know, output zero dot zero.
That's at least it wasn't negative, I guess.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
But when everyone was getting so many things on many different opportunities,
I mean, for goodness sake, three different guys like through
the ball at some point. But Roman Dune's day not
part of the fun, not part of the party. So
perhaps you look for a trade with him and you
buy the dip. By the dip dollar cost average down, Baby.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah, it's an early favorite to be our cardio thing
unless somebody does something. But that is tonight, rink. What's
your stock evaluation this week?
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Incidentally, by the dip was one of my responsibilities when
I worked for the Dodgers back in the day.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
But let's talk about.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Somebody whose stock is going up, and I'm gonna say,
come back, come back and join us.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Kyle Madung guy, a.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Player that I've been talking about at great length going
back to the summer when we were doing these shows,
and I said, you know somebody to keep an eye
on this season is Kyle mcung guy, because he had
clearly moved past Rochean Joh. Okay, I'll think the h
period there clearly had moved past Roshan Johnson on the
depth chart. And I know a lot of the nerdstroms
aret there will be like, yeah, is this Cincinnati bisiness
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seventeen plus fantasy points into out the last WEEKND Watch
the tape here?
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Watch it. Okay, that was a great hit. That's great,
that's a great stick that was But look at the
way he's moving the.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Pile like that is a guy that is a running
style that is going to be sustainable in the NFL.
One guy who I did watch this move though that
wasn't the one I was thinking of. But Tyrone Tracy
didn't like him as much against the forty nine ers.
It was a good matchup to Fred Warner not playing
for that team anymore. The forty nine ers have been
vulnerable to running backs this season, but did not do
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a great job.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Devin Singletary actually.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Started working into the mix for the forty nine ers
as well, so Tyrone Tracy's stock is on the way down.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Coming up tomorrow, we've got the late round of Fantasy
pick and also Fantasy Bust of the midseason, which is.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Saying they can still come back and be valuating me to.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Your fantasy football roster for the remainder of twenty twenty
five for Adam Rancon Cynthia Freeland, I'm Patrick Claibond.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Thanks for watching NFL Fantasy Live.
Wow.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
It's a Monday Fantasy line of edition of the Fantasy
Football Podcast. I'm Patrick Claibon and I'll be joined by
Adam Rank and Cynthia Freeland. We'll go through all the
Sunday's top performers, plus whose stock is rising and who
you may want to part ways with. And it's time
to start our mid season Awards. Which rookie tops the
list through the first half of the season. Everybody, Welcome
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to NFL Fantasy That Patrick Clavon here with Adam Rank
and Cynthia Freeland. We've got one more game in Week nine,
meaning when it concludes, we'll be at the midseason. So
we got mid season wants to give the people, and
the people want midseason awards, they really do.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
You know who wants it? The producers run out of ideas. No, no,
we want awards. The people want awards.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Everybody wants an award. Rank you even won an award,
Best Dat Award, Best Soccer Coach Award. You know there's
a lot of awards everyone wants. Everyone's an award.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah, in fact, why don't we dole out some awards
right now? We'll get into our Sunday Studs.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
The guys who went off in Sunday of week nine,
and we will start with a guy who's back and
we're glad to have him back.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Oh my gosh, we needed this in a huge way
for anybody who used a high draft pick on brock Bowers.
If you hear that there's something running around our studio,
we think it's a falcon, but we're not quite sure.
But at any event, brock Bowers was amazing. Thirteen targets
in this game. Props to Gino Smith, who once brock
Bowers returned, he's like, hey, we're not going to ease
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him into the lineup. We're just going to continue to
go after him. He caught twelve of those or twelve
of the thirteen targets, ended up with one hundred and
twenty seven rushing yards in three receiving touchdowns. It is
so great having brock Bowers back, and if you were
able to survive over the last couple of weeks without him,
you sincerely enjoyed his return on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Well, this guy's been playing, but sometimes he doesn't come
up for us, and he seems to be really really
found this past week.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Drake London in London.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Yeah, Okay, yeah, we know, we know it's friends time always,
but ultimately, Drake London had a great week against the Patriots.
Nine receptions on fourteen targets, one hundred and eighteen yards
and three.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Trips to the end zone. It kind of makes up.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
It's so interesting because you look at him his performance
over the course of the season, you're like, there's been
some really big up since some very big downs. So
this is a big up. Maybe next week in Berlin
we'll see another one.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, you know, it's one of those things, like a
lot of ups and downs, like Monica and Chandler's relationship
which started in London. Oh yeah, let's talk about Kayla Williams.
Though a career high thirty eight plus Fantasy points against
the Cincinnati Bengals through for two to eighty, had three
touchdown passes. He also had fifty three rushing yards, but
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one of the most impressive things was the twenty two
receiving yards and a touchdown. He is the first player
with two touchdown passes and two receptions in a game
since Walter Payton in nineteen eighty three. I always joked
that Walter Payton is one of the best bearst quarterbacks
of my lifetime, but he is the third Bears quarterback
in history. I have a passing touchdown and receiving touchdown
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in the same game. Jim McMahon did it in nineteen
eighty five, Carl Brumbaugh did it in nineteen thirty four.
But fun fact, he had more receiving fantasy points this
week than Lad McConkie, Chris alave Teed McMillan, BTJ Rama Dunja,
Keenan Allen, Xavier Worthy, Cortland Sutton, and George Kittle wow
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Cale Williams effective fantasy football receiver.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I knew those, by the way, more than I knew
the friends references, which I did not get. Christian McCaffrey,
Welcome back to my last once again, the RB one.
I've taken a little break in Week eight. He ran
the ball twenty eight times, called them all five times,
for over one hundred and sixty total yards and two scores.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
The first player in Super Bowl in the Super Bowl era.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
I have five hundred and fifty rushing yards six hundred
receiving yards through nine games. The Niners don't have a
bye till Week fourteen, so I sew up good Sir,
we're going to need you.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
That's bananas. I didn't realize that. But I'm looking at
T Higgins, and of course you have to talk about
Joe Flacco as well, but T Higgins right now has
thirty three point one Fantasy points. That's number two at
the wide receiver position. You're talking about Joe Flacco after
the game, saying something like, you know.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Yeah, he's really good.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
I thought it was a mistake throwing in that fifty
to fifty ball, and then I just lapped as he
went in the end zone. So I mean, it's just
crazy what this offense is able to do. And this
entire game, nobody wanted to play defense. There was like
forty three big plays, so explosive plays of ten plus
yards either on the ground or through the air.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
So you're pretty.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Happy if you had T Higgins, Joe Flacco, pretty much
anyone on this offense.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Yeah, I was very happy that the Bears had Colston Lovelin,
who had had the winning touchdown against the Cincinnati Bengals
on Sunday, had two touch receptions in this one as
part of a game where he had six receptions overall
for one hundred and eighteen yards.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Of course, to the big play at the end of
the game.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
I'm assuming we're getting to that shot at some point.
He had so many catches it takes a while to
get to him, but big presence and slowly but surely
he's been worked back or worked into this.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Here's a touchdown, O up buy you see ya and
the crowded ups.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
It's in Cincinnati, but you would have thought it was
a Bears home game as he was galloping into the
end zone. I feel the worst for the people who've
been running on those Hey, they should have drafted Tyler
Warden or Ronde Gadstein memes over the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Looks silly.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Now, this is what the Bears thought they were getting
when they drafted him with the ninth overall selection. Hopefully
this is just something that they build on moving forward.
But given Ben Johnson's history and the way he uses
tight ends, there's good reason to believe that Colson Lovelin
will continue to be involved in the Bears offense.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
A big game from Colston Lovelin and we got a
twenty eight point game from a guy who scores.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Twenty eight pens points all the time.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
It's Josh Allen actually the same number of points as
team scored against the Kansas City Chiefs, as they beat
the Chiefs. Once again, the guy who has more games
with a passing and rushing touchdown than anyone in NFL
history had.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Another game with both.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
In fact, they had two rushing scores and they got
the Fins next week. So yeah, congratulations on the managers
who once again have Josh Allen and fantasy football center.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Yeah, I mean, look, you got him.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
And then, of course, just like everyone drew it up,
Rico Dawdle against the Packers, the Packers who are really
good at stopping the run until Rico Dada exploded for
one hundred and thirty yards a two touchdowns along with
a couple of receptions for those PPR fans and eleven
more receiving yards.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
It was a little shocking what happened at lambeau Field.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Nonetheless, I don't know if anyone necessarily had this being
such a great game for Dowell, but hey man, we'll
take it. And if his coach says he's amazing, and
he was averaging five point seven yards FORER attempt before
this one, and then in that game they're averaging seven
yards per play great.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
I think both me and Raank will.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Agree that anytime we see the Packers giving up seven
point seven yards replay, we're gonna be happy with it.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
We're with that, Okay, no profit, And of course Rico
manager is happy where chub Hubber gets the deal last year.
But ric o'dowell has been so good it's hard for
Dave Canalis and the Panthers to give the ball to
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Sunday games.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Terms and embargoes apply.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Let's talk about the waiver wire in case you don't
have access to these guys.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Who are you targeting right now? Early on Monday, right
one of the first guys I'm looking at.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
I saw his name out there, Josh Downs, who's available
in sixty percent of NFL dot com leagues.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Now, of course your.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Leagues might vary, and it's one of the Again, I
was surprised, as anybody I had to go out there
and see Josh Downs available. I saw Sam Laporta available
in one of my leagues, and I was tempting to
put it down. I'm like, he's available, he's rostered. I
need seven percent of leagues. It's nice to know I'm
in one of the three percent of leagues. But Josh
Downs has a receiving touchdown in three consecutive games. Despite
the fact that the Colts lost on Sunday at Pittsburgh,
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I still believe that you can go out there and
count of this team to move the ball offensively. This
week they've got the Atlanta Falcons. So Josh Downs, if
he's available, don't tweet me and be like, hey, listen,
he was done. Okay, fine, you're the king of threads,
then okay, I appreciate you. But Josh Down to somebody
that I'm looking at.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
Ninety one percent of NFL dot com leagues have available
for your pleasure, AJ Barner, you might need a tight end.
This is a great one to consider. So Sam Narnold
is absolutely dealing. This offense looks incredible and AJ Barner
has made a trip to the end zone in four
of his last five games.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
I'm looking at the opportunity here.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
I know that you know obviously they were without Cooper
Cup last night didn't really matter. They spread the love
round quite a bit. No one on this team has
more red zone targets this season. Now part of that
is because Jackson Smith and but he kind of like
runs after the cash but like a billion yards and
doesn't need to be targeted in the red area. But
they're still going to need to target guys in the
red area. And it's going to be a Jay barner.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
I'm gonna go into a Seahawks as well, and this
will be hotly contested. Considering what he did on Monday
Night football, Tory Gordon had twenty Fantasy points as wide
receiver seven thus far in Week nine. His six scores
are the most by Seahawks rookie wide receiver since dk
Metcalfs first season in Seattle. And exciting rookie, and there's
quite a few exciting.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Rookies this year.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
As we get to our Fantasy mid season awards, these
are awards we give near the middle of the season.
We're not saying anybody's season is mid because that would
be you know me, like like the Cowboys defense. But
all week we're going to be making nominations for mid
season awards tweet us at NFL Fantasy because we're gonna
have the votes for you to vote on the players
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that we nominate. So let's start with the mid season
Rookie of the Year, Cynthia, who do you offer for
the people?
Speaker 4 (09:59):
I offer a a Tyler Warren.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Why.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Well, this Indianapolis Colt is just you know, averaging one hundred. Well,
he has the second most Fantasy points among tight ends
and that's actually the most among rookie tight ends through
the first nine weeks in Colt's history.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
He's kind of on pace too.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
I don't know, potentially contest brock Bauers record that held
since Mike Ditka prior to that. So I think Tyler
Warren is one of the keys that unlocks everything for
this cold stefense. And you know, obviously Bears fans wish
they could have Tyler Warren Elveza nobodys.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
No, okay, got it. Just just making sure.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I'm gonna touchdowns as he had this season three, just
one more than Colston Lovelin who missed a couple of games.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Just say, yeah, who's doing nominally right?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
I'm gonna go with the Mecca on Buka, who has
been averaging more than fifteen Fantasy points per game, and
this has been a player that has saved a lot
of seasons when you think about some of the injuries
at the wide receiver position.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Malik neighbors players like that if you.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Also had a Mecca at Buka, who I have so
many shares of because I was drafting him he was
my wide receiver three or four that he was a
player that I wanted to leave my drafts with. And
now he has become one of the most dependable players
for me as other guys have fallen off, some other
guys have battled through injuries. I have a team at
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Puka and Aku and the league neighbors, and I knew
it was gonna be a little bit risky, and so
I'm like, well, I'll take a Mecca a book and
see what happens. And he has been keeping me afloat.
Now he's coming back after the buye and I expect
him to continue that torrid pace in the second half
of the season.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Well, you guys will leave me a quarterback to tay,
so I will take Jackson Dart, who has the third
most Fantasy points per game as a rookie since nineteen seventy.
We talked about Josh Allen's prediction for games with a
passing touchdown and a rushing touchdown. Jackson Dart has done
it in five of his first six career games, and
that's why he is my nominee for Fantasy Rookie of
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the mid Season thus far.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
So let's get a drum roll, folks, and we'll figure
out who you.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Guys voted for and the result is that we're finally
out now live.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Right, You've done it. You nominated Maka Buka and he has.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Won forty I was first of the homework. That was
pretty much what that was right there. Just he has
been the guy that is bullied a lot of teams.
A great surprise and far and away the rookie there
it could be.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
A league winner. We got more coming up here on
NFL Fantasy Live, including an opportunity.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
To see all it was a rough one for Dimes
and company against the Steelers. Was that a minor moment
of drama in an otherwise fairy tale season?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Or is Daniel Jones starting.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
To turn back into a pumpkin Bibbity Bobby Boo, the
fantasy manager who ignores our advice right after this, Welcome
back to Fantasy Live. Sunday, the NFL takes the field
in Berlin for the first time as the Falcons square
off against the Colts and historic early morning showdown. So
get ready to wake up and watch, because here our stars.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Come out in the morning. It's Sunday Morning Football Sunday.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Nine thirty am Eastern only on NFL Network and streaming
with NFL Plus. Subscription required for NFL Plus visit Plus
dot NFL dot com for terms. It's not for panic
or patients here on NFL Fantasy Live. What I have
in my hands here is a panic button which signals
to fantasy managers the universe over whether it's time to
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flip out and start to find a new solution to
a particular spot on your roster.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
And we will start with Adam Rick.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Okay, we'll start with one of your favorite teams. As
is the time for the quarterback twenty two Jordan Love
to cause us to pin.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I'm gonna be honest, sitting there outside of the Bears
winning that game on Sunday, watching Jordan Love run around
and throw a yellow ball that was nowhere near one
of his receivers, Shaw said, you absolutely must.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Not panic on this.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Let's be series. Even even me hater mc paterson understands it.
While it was a poor game, it is the first
time all season Jordan Love did not have a pass
in a game.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
He's still a pretty good quarterback.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
And the Packers, though, had been prone to these kind
of performances. You think about the game against the Cleveland Browns,
who I understandably the Browns do have a good defense.
The Dallas Cowboys do not. There was no reason to
tie that game. He's going to be just fine, Packers fans.
I believe me, He's going to be fine.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
All right, Let's go over to the other sideline, because
Cuba Hubbard Cynthia was the RB fifty four. Rico has
charged all the way in and taken the spot.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Are we panicking on Cuba?
Speaker 5 (14:32):
I'll be Hadi Mchaderson. Bang that button, mash that button.
Panic Cuba Hubbard. Well, this is the staff that I like.
He has the third fewest rushing yards over expected at
negative fifty seven, so he's underperformed by fifty seven yards.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
Rigo dwell.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
He has the third most such yards at positive one
seventy two. That is like an over two hundred yard swing,
which is a huge difference and very much a reason
why this team is five and four and over five hundred.
So in the twenty percent snapshare for Harvard, I'm out.
I'm out, Katie Mchaterton or whatever we're calling you.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Pater Mchatterson.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
It's just it's an evaluation of the circumstances like ones
that people have had earlier on in the season for
Alvin Kamara.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
And I was one of the first people to be.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Like, hey, guys, this Salvin Kamara is one of the
best receiving backs of all time, which is why it's okay,
no bad, so very bad, and I'm sad about it
because Alvin Kamara ran the ball six.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Times for fourteen yards, only got three targets. Again, one
of the best receiving backs to ever play football ever. Ever.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yes, panic, indeed, and we'll keep the the running back
theme going, especially veterans because rank we had another RJ.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Harvey game for the Denver Broncos. Did you have vision
jury on them? You're looking into the mirror, yes, to
see a little bit clear now usually, but I'm not well.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Actually I am well because I do have plenty of
R J. Harvey and my fantasy lineups and rosters. This
is one where I feel like, Okay, this one I
got right where I was out on Jabi, I should
have been it on Jamonte Williams.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
It was JK. Dobbins and listen, JK. Dobbins is a value.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
He's a good player, like there's nothing wrong with it,
but the production just hasn't been there. He's averaged less
than ten Fantasy points in each of the last four games.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
We're seeing more and more RJ. Harvey.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
This is something that we thought was going to happen
at some point.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
This season, that r J. Harvey would take over.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Something that people thought was going to happen earlier in
the season was Daniel Jones having a bad game. It
didn't happen until the Colts turn the ball over six times. Cynthia,
is it time to panic on senior Dimes?
Speaker 3 (16:44):
No?
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Absolutely not no, or Nama, stay y'all in Deutschland. He
will redeem himself. Even though the Falcons have a good
pass defense. We're going to be very calm. He's still
threw for three hundred and forty two yards any touchdown.
Also looking at the opportunity here for the old line
to figure some things out.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
How they five sacks taken, that's crazy.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
They didn't even have a lot of pressure, so it
was super efficient when they did get to Daniel Jones.
This is just one of those games that this is
something that happens, y'all. Perhaps they should have, I don't know,
figured out some of a little bit more of a
game plan on the ground kept Daniel Jones from being
That first drive was fine, fourteen plays and a first
and then all of a sudden, something weird happens and
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then poof.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
We don't know what happens, but this is that's how
it works.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah, sometimes things go wrong and sometimes panic early. The
panic button never lies. It may be a touch early occasionally,
but it does not lie.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Other folks, we can't say that about all the times
we unveil a new bit of technology here. Cynthia Freeland
has created a lot of devices in her time. But
now the coach speak loud detector tells us whether we
get truth, have truths in the model as well, or
just outright lies. So, Cynthia, let's start in Miami, where
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the head coach of the Dolphins addressed some rumors about
a potential quarterback change.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
I'm far from even going down that direction of would
have could have possible things. We have a football game
against the Buffalo Bills that you know, we are certain
that Tua gives us the best chance to win.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Okay, Cynthia, what does your model tell you about what
coach Mike Mix said regarding to a tongue of bailoa.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
So just so you know, we have five different designations,
so the truth teller talk, that's the best you can be.
He's the second highest number. So about seventy five percent
truth here. This is a possibly precise pronouncement. Why because
if you think about it, he's actually not lying. We
are certain that Tua gives us the best chance to win.
When you have the better until that changes, you know,
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until they ask some other players maybe that could give
them a better chance to win. Then he's absolutely right.
He's not saying two is the best quarterback in the
entire NFL. He's saying, to is the guy on our
team that we have that's the best one in his
physician So to me, he's telling the truth.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
It just could also not be true at a later time.
But when he said it, that was true.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
All right.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Well, there's no question regarding Jonathan Taylor's position in terms
of running backs in the National Football League.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Shane Stichen, talking.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
About the forty five yards on fourteen carries from JT
this weekend.
Speaker 7 (19:24):
I think I could have been more balanced there, probably
in the first half. You know, I thought we moved
the ball really well on that first drive, and then
I think, you know, we had some opportunities there.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Obviously.
Speaker 7 (19:35):
I think to start the second quarter we were driving
pretty good, you know, up seven to nothing, had a
chance there, and that's when the sack fumble happened. You know,
you always look back at those situations and heyshoot, maybe
I could have called the run here, Maybe I could
have called the run there. And again that's that's all
part of evaluation process. When you go through games, whether
you win or lose, you're always trying to get better
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in every aspect your game as a coach and as
a player.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
He puts it on stuff I could have cut over
on here there. What's the leader say, Cynthy.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
I could have been watching and potentially shifted the universe
as well. To me, this is a set a sketchy statement.
Why it's about twenty five percent he's just shouldering the
blame for a situation that, like we talked about before.
I mean, sure, of course he would have loved to
have some of those calls back, and of course he
wouldn't have liked a fumble, and of course he wouldn't
have liked those three interceptions to happen. He would have
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liked to call different play there. So that's why it's
not lyinglier who lies. But this is when coaches just
shoulder the responsibility. It's part of being a coach. We're
going to say sometimes you have to you know, be
a little bit, you know, set a sketchy statement. You
have to be a little sketch if you're a coach,
because you can't just be like yep, o line in
this one not what I was expecting. Yep, run game
didn't work out, yep, game script, yep, Nope, it's thrown
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on everyone else. No, it's always the coach's responsibility. So
just set a sketchy statement. But we kind of like
Shane Steichen for it, because I mean, what's he gonna
do is be like, yeah, we Dannel Jones didn't have
a good game.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
He was terrible.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
It's not going to dime out dimes or just straight
on and tell us that, you know, talk about the possibility
of us not being.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
There at some point for the football game. That's the
thing that could have happened. We got more coming up.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
I love the debut of Cynthia's Coach Speak Live Detectors.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
We're back on NFL Fantasy Live. Let's get your weekly.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Stockwatch for fantasy players, which is silly until you think
about how real markets work.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
It's not for stock up stock town.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Cynthia, what's your stock evaluation fantasy football wise this week?
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Well, sometimes we like the way something's named on the
stock market, and that's why people buy it. But I
like the name Basil Tutan and he also happens to
be a buy.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
I'm putting a huge buy rating on him. We saw
against Vegas this week.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Okay, so nine point six fantasy points, so that's number
twenty four. But he's starting to get more and more
of the share things are starting to kind of eke
in and take some of Travis Etn's lunch.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
So I'm looking at Basil Touton.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
I like the stock ticker symbol, I like everything about it.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
I'm looking for up.
Speaker 5 (22:03):
Until the right and I'm investing in him now it
might just be a fluke, So maybe we buy the dip.
But Romo Dunza, here the stock went in a game
where there was five bajillion points and five bajillion deep plays.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
This was not a good you know, output zero dot zero.
That's at least it wasn't negative, I guess.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
But when everyone was getting so many things on many different opportunities,
I mean, for goodness sake, three different guys like through
the ball at some point. But Roman Dune's day not
part of the fun, not part of the party. So
perhaps you look for a trade with him and you
buy the dip. By the dip dollar cost average down, Baby.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah, it's an early favorite to be our cardio thing
unless somebody does something. But that is tonight, rink. What's
your stock evaluation this week?
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Incidentally, by the dip was one of my responsibilities when
I worked for the Dodgers back in the day.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
But let's talk about.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Somebody whose stock is going up, and I'm gonna say,
come back, come back and join us.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Kyle Madung guy, a.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Player that I've been talking about at great length going
back to the summer when we were doing these shows,
and I said, you know somebody to keep an eye
on this season is Kyle mcung guy, because he had
clearly moved past Rochean Joh. Okay, I'll think the h
period there clearly had moved past Roshan Johnson on the
depth chart. And I know a lot of the nerdstroms
aret there will be like, yeah, is this Cincinnati bisiness
(23:25):
seventeen plus fantasy points into out the last WEEKND Watch
the tape here?
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Watch it. Okay, that was a great hit. That's great,
that's a great stick that was But look at the
way he's moving the.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Pile like that is a guy that is a running
style that is going to be sustainable in the NFL.
One guy who I did watch this move though that
wasn't the one I was thinking of. But Tyrone Tracy
didn't like him as much against the forty nine ers.
It was a good matchup to Fred Warner not playing
for that team anymore. The forty nine ers have been
vulnerable to running backs this season, but did not do
(23:55):
a great job.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Devin Singletary actually.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Started working into the mix for the forty nine ers
as well, so Tyrone Tracy's stock is on the way down.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Coming up tomorrow, we've got the late round of Fantasy
pick and also Fantasy Bust of the midseason, which is.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Saying they can still come back and be valuating me to.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Your fantasy football roster for the remainder of twenty twenty
five for Adam Rancon Cynthia Freeland, I'm Patrick Claibond.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Thanks for watching NFL Fantasy Live.
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