December 11, 2024 • 26 mins
Peter and Aaron do a deep dive on the Bill Belichick to UNC talk, what it means, who it impacts, and what is left behind.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
The Season with Peter Schrager is a production of the
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Peter Schreger. This is the Season with Peter Schrager. I'm
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joined by Aaron wang Kaufman, my wonderful Palin producer.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Here.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I'm currently eighty five percent. If you saw Good Morning
Football on Monday, you saw me at thirty percent. I
got stuck with a disgusting bout of food poisoning. I
don't need to go into the details, just brutal Sunday night,
and then Monday morning, did Good Morning Football, then flew
across the country while battling demons, demons, brother demons Erin Tuesday,
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don't remember anything, all a blur, and then Wednesday morning,
I'm feeling better. But we are now recording this on
a Wednesday, and I have not eating a thing since Sunday,
which is pretty impressive and a good way to kickstart
a diet. Unfortunately, I'm not seeing the results. I look
at my reflection on this video over filming, but I
feel like maybe i'll put on some pants later and
I'm down to size and that I'll kickstart, which should
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be an interesting journey back to my playing weight. I
say all that because we don't have a guest this week.
I didn't even think to reach out. But we're not
going to not do a podcast. So Aaron, are we cool?
Just the two of us riffing for a little bit
and given the listeners, the old school Aaron and Peter
go back and forth show or what.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
That sounds great? We got, we got some Broadway lined up,
we got I'm here like we talk Broadway.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
I'm like, I slow down, slow down. My little monologue
is going to be about something that could be outdated
by one o'clock today as we record this at twelve
forty five. And that's why I'm a little hesitant to
go down a deep dive on it. A that it
might be news already by the time this publishers and
if so, fine, and that every minute that slips away
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means it's less and less likely to happen. This whole
Bill Belichick North Carolina thing is fascinating to me. I
think it's very real. I think it's very unorthodox. I
don't think necessarily is something that either side was seriously
entertaining until it happened pretty quickly that he met with them,
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then met with them again. And I know this isn't
as flattering to Belichick as maybe we'd like to make
it be. I don't know if there's an NFL job
that's going to be available, and I know that's not
what anyone wants to hear. It's not the sexy headline,
it's not the North Carolina's recruiting him like to know
end that this is him pushing them away and giving
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them the heisman. I don't know there's three available jobs
right now that we know of. It's the Jets, the Bears,
and the Saints, or at least we don't think they're
hiring those interim coaches. None of those organizations, though they
have the ability to pick his brain, talk to him
and have a casual sit down, has done any sort
of effort to go and meet with the man. You
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go down the list, everyone assumes like Jacksonville is gonna
be handing over everything to him. Well, Trent Balkey just
signed a major deal with Walker Little, an offensive lineman,
giving him real money. And I don't know if owners
usually let the GM sign a player to a major
extension in week thirteen. If the GM isn't at least
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considered to be coming back. Go down the list of
teams Dallas. At one point it sounded like a great marriage.
Belichick comes in, Jerry can finally watch as a coach
brings his team back to relevance, and maybe Belichick breaks
Sholo's record and does it for the Cowboy. The more
and more you hear out of Dallas, I'm not so
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certain Mike McCarthy isn't back next year. And if Mike
McCarthy isn't the guy, is Bill Belichick. The guy's eighty
two year old Jerry Jones hiring seventy three year old
Bill Belichick to bring his whole cast characters in. I
don't know Tampa. I don't think they're firing Todd Bowles. Miami.
I don't think they're firing Mike McDaniel. Go down the
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list of teams. Arizona's keeping Jonathan Gannon, Indianapolis isn't firing
Shane Stike And where is the home? The irony is
team that could use a new coach perhaps and bringing
a whole bunch of new guys is maybe his old
team New England. But we're not going down that road again.
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And I don't think they're getting rid of Gerrodmeyo either.
If there is no NFL job in hand, and Belichick
did this year sabbatical away working for eleven different media
companies and showing his personality on the Manning Cast and
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coming off quite likable with Pat McAfee and crushing the draft,
which I thought was his best moment. I thought he
was amazing on the draft with McAfee. And you know,
joining Instagram, he's got the younger girlfriend that everyone jokes about.
But whatever you want to say or not, like, he's
obviously opening up a little bit more. He's on social media.
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He's trying to do things with a smile publicly, which
was not always his media presence. If the NFL's not
there and he's looking at his legacy and it's I
still want to coach, the North Carolina job is pretty
darn good. He'll come in. He'll be able to bring
in his people, whether that's including Josh McDaniels or Matt
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Patricia or even his son Steven who's a defensive coordinator
at Washington right now. Mick Lombardi he can bring. He
can bring in Mike Lombard, he can bring in all
his guys. They can build up an NFL style program
in the ACC at a really good academic institution, a
place where his father once coached, and do so with
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an ability to come in and say look at the rings, obviously,
look at the parents, and say, hey, look what you're kidding.
Going to get is an a plus education at one
of the best finest academic institutions, but also a whole
added bonus of a way to live your life and
a way to manage yourself on a schedule. And I'm
going to take an NFL style approach to these kids
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and treat them like professionals, but do so in an
undergraduate setting. I think there's a lot worse places to
do it than North Carolina. I also think if you're
looking at that clock and it's okay, you don't have
Tony and Shad Khan reaching out to you behind the
scenes and saying, hey this just hang tight there, like
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let us get let Doug get through this year, let
turn Balki get through this year. Then we're going to
hand it over to you. And if you don't have,
you know, an organization like the Bears, who are two
weeks removed from firing their head coach reaching out to
you to at least have a coffee, and you want
to coach, and that's what you're doing, and that's what
you want to do, and that's your livelihood. Like I
don't know, North Carolina might be the place. And then
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the question is there's North Carolina want that. I think
they should. I think it's a swing at the bat.
And then perhaps he says, all right, and at some
point we handed over to Josh McDaniels or my son Steven,
and they run it from that point and you're getting
a smooth transition. If I'm not coaching for ten years,
but say I'm doing it for three, four or five.
Bruce Feldman is someone I really respect. Bruce Feldman writes
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college football articles for The Athletic. He's also the main
college football insider on Fox. He brought up a really
interesting point in The Athletic a couple of days ago
that has been glossed over with all of our NFL.
You know, we bow to the and we kissed the
rings and the whole thing. Bill Walsh retired, did TV.
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George Seaffert took over the Niners. Bill Walsh came back
and did three unremarkable seasons at Stanford in three years
that were not anything that anyone talks about, that are
not a part of his legacy that no one even
mentions his second goal around there. And I mean I
think John Lynch played for Bill Walsh, if I'm not mistaken,
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And so that was late eighties he came back early nineties.
Got to double check that one, but I believe it
was in that era of like post Lway obviously, but
late eighties early nineties Stanford and Bill Walsh came back
and it was like a and Bill Walsh was significantly
younger than what Belichick is now. Say all this to
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say that I wouldn't be shocked if we get the
story that Bill Belichick is the head coach at North Carolina,
and I would embrace it. I would look forward to it.
It's a new approach to it. It's not Mac Brown
coming back to a college program. It's Bill Belichick coming
with a vengeance to show what he's still got and
to show that he could take on this nil and
recruiting thing like no one elver has before. I mean
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the fact that Saban's retired and is younger than Belichick
and has already walked away as probably the greatest college
coach since Bear Bryant's interesting as now Belichick is going
to dip his toes into those waters. It was almost
like it was church and State. Belichick's the NFL guy,
Saban's the college guy. They get along, great, beautiful friendship.
Belichick's going back to college. It excites me. It excites
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me more than hearing Belichick is going to the Jacksonville
Jaguars again. We'll wait and see, but that is my
initial thoughts. And I would add two cents from two
guys I've really grown to really enjoy, and that's Julian
Edelman and Robert Gronkowski. I was with them this past
weekend at Fox, and it's just green room chatter, and
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this is where the best stuff comes out. And I
didn't have any of this conversation with Brady, so I
can't even weigh in with his thoughts, but I'm sure
it's in line with these two. They both were like,
I can't imagine I can't imagine Belichick sitting down and
like begging a kid and then offering him money to
play college football, and then you know, the second the
season's over, the kid declaring to the transfer portal. I'm
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like that's just the thought of Belichick groveling or even
having to like barter for this thing is beyond their belief.
But they all said the same thing, like they're amazing
better people because of their time with Bill, and if
you could instill that into a college kid, that kid's
going to be very you know, well off for the
rest of his life. Aaron, You're not as connected as
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I am necessarily as far as these conversations go. But
you follow the NFL Belichick college coach. What was your
reaction when you heard that news that he interviewed with
you and c I had.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I had two initial thoughts. The first one is I
kind of love it, Like I love the idea that
here's someone who has put together some of the greatest
coaching that you know, especially my generation has ever seen.
And the thought that hey, he's just gonna go conquer
something else. Maybe like maybe his time has been his,
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the NFL has passed him by, but he could still
do really well, and I think he would.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
He would he would like jump through the screen and
be like, that's not the case. Let me get that
NFL bite at the Apple I had not passed me by.
I just don't know if a team is willing to
hand him that opportunity. So if that's the case, is
he jump into It's almost like before you break up
with me, I'm going to break up with you, NFL.
That's how I see it.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Well, I mean, the other thing I thought is, after
this this year of being smiley and fun and posing
with his girlfriend on Instagram pictures in Halloween costumes, does
he want something that's maybe a little less cutthroat?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Does he want to go in and be more like
helping to develop these kids, right father figure, as opposed
to maybe like the really difficult, you know, strict coach
that we know of from you.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I think talking to these college guys, they're so burned
out of the college game, a lot of them. Jeff Halfley,
I couldn't speak on being his behalf, but he was
the coach at PC. He chose to be a defensive
coordinator at the Packers over being a head coach at
Bustin College. Chip Kelly was the head coach at UCLA.
He says, this the thing for me, the offensive coordinator.
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I think being a head coach in the college.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Game is a young man's game, dude.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
It is recruiting, hustling, reading these websites, reading the blogs,
spending other people's money. It's it's almost a I it's
almost an easy I don't know. Maybe it's not his cutthroat.
You can go six and six at in Chapel Hill
and not feel the heat. But like it's no less work.
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I'll tell you that.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Does it preserve his legacy better? If he were to
come back to the NFL, like you were saying and
have three disappointing seasons, that hurts him. But if he
goes to UNC and has you know, three five win seasons,
it doesn't. It's not going to be in the record
books the same way. No.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
I look at it, and I wonder he okay. So
Mike Lombardi in many ways speaks on his own opinions,
but also speaks based on conversations with Belichick. And Lombardi
was on his website or his podcast and I saw
the clip. I watched it online and he said that
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the this was from Friday. He might decided to Chris
Russo actually that the Shula record, the win total record,
which he is in arms distance of, probably needs one
good year and maybe half of another good year. That
shula wins record is not at all on Belichick's like
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must have lists. It's not what keeps him up at night.
And if anyone thinks that they don't know Bill, well,
if that's the case and he just wants to coach,
there might be nothing more pure than developing college players
into NFL talent and creating that pipeline. Cause I tell
you this, NFL teams are gonna want to take a
risk on a kid who was coached by Belichick over
a kid who is coached by some other coach who
they don't know or necessarily have the respector kind of
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you know, the honor, has that honor to them.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I mean he is close.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
How close?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Shula has three twenty eight wins? Bill has three hundred
and two, So he would need at least two seasons.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
That would I say a season and a half? Yeah, okay,
so kind of needs two to three seasons in the NFL.
That's a that puts him at seventy six years old.
If he gets the right team, if he gets the
right wins and it all.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Works out, Andy's right behind him with two seventy and.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
He's coming and Andy is stepping away anytime either.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
And then the next closest current is Tomlin with one
to eighty three. So he he He's in the top five.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
No one's questioning it. I think he's the greatest coach
of all time. It's him, Lombardi, Hallis Shula, maybe Andy
Reid sneaking into that conversation too. The rings tell the story.
If it's a legacy question, that's absurd. Your legacy's firm.
The question is does he have that chip on his
shoulder that the I need another bite at the NFL.
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I wasn't ready to end it. I didn't end it
on my terms. I mean mutually parted ways in New England.
You know, he interviewed in Atlanta, and I think the
assumption was he'd have a list of teams that are
lining up for him. I don't know if I see that,
And I've said that Bill Simmons a couple weeks ago,
and it was like it was it was aggregated. It
was like some shocking statement. But there's three teams that
could currently talk to him, and from what I gathered,
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none of them have sat even headed coffee with him.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Wow. I mean not what you expected five years ago,
for sure, not what you even expected when he was
taking this year off, I think everyone expected him to
like do TV and go out of his mind because
he missed it so much. So I don't know, it
is wild to think of him not doing the NFL.
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But he was also someone who, like I mean, there
are stories of him watching college games in high school
games and coming up with ideas. So he's already probably
locked into UNC's playbook. I mean, he had like a
two hundred page document he gave them.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Well, he also spent the year, I'm told at NFL films,
and I don't know if I'm on leaking unleashing secret
Like he's got all the all twenty two, Like he
breaks down every single game. But he also does college
so like if there was a draft tomorrow, he's ready
to go. He knows all the college players and talks
to all the college coaches, And Mike Florio posted it
today like all these college coaches let him into the
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building and observe practice and have his way around the facilities.
They didn't think he was going to be their competitor
next year, but maybe he will, so we'll see. This
could be outdated. If it is, we still like to
listen to us about and around. We'd like to hear
your thoughts. Tweet me at p schregs at psc ch RGS.
I want to hear your thoughts on Belichick. The other
thing that I'd like to bring up that I think
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is actually really interesting is the NFL announcing some minority
ownership for the Buffalo Bills. And I don't know if
you saw this. Who's now a minority owner of the Bills?
Three names and I thought were really cool.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Do you see this? Aaron ten new limited partners to ownership.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Okay, read them out loud. If you got the press
release up read read them out loud, and save the
big three for the end.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Okay, so let's see for the listeners. I don't have
the list in front of me. Read the boring ones first.
We're probably just finance private equity people who whatever, this
is cool for them to go to their rich person
party and say that they own a team. Who do
we got? So?
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I think there are two big ones, but Arctos some.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Actos's private equity.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
So great, good Rob Palombo Okay, don't know mc collum.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Don't know her, Teresa Gao, don't know her, Lovely, don't
know her rob Ward love him, don't know him, Mike
ju don't know Jew love him, Tom Berger great dude,
don't know him.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Josie Altador Okay, do you know.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Who Josie Outdoor is?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Okay, Josie Outsdour is one of the greatest US soccer
players of all time. Josie Aldador is now a minority
owner of the Buffalo Bills. Let's keep going. Who else
is the minority owner of the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I'm gonna between these last two, I'm gonna go with
the one that I'm gonna say. Number one is who
meant the most to me as a child, Okay, So
start with number two? Is Vince Carter.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Vince Carter Vin Sanity is now a minority owner of
the Buffalo Bills. I love this. And who is the
last minority owner of the Buffalo Bills? Announced today at
the league meetings?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Tracy McGrady T mac.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Is an owner of the Bills. What I mean this
goes back that to Toronto connection, I suppose, But like,
if you really want to do a deep dive, neither
one of those guys Toronto careers ended well. Vince cried
his way out, got traded, went to the Nets and
then uh, if you remember t Mac had the biggest
free agency ever, went to Orlando. But okay, whatever they were,
they brought basketball to Canada and they are beloved. And
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of course Vince had his jersey retired in Toronto, and
I think this is amazing. And Josie Aldador is a
US soccer player, Like, all right, so what does that
all mean? I could have on a sports business expert.
What's interesting is the NFL's opening up the pie a
little bit and they allowed in six different private equity group.
So all those names you heard in the beginning, and
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I was being dismissive, I'm sure that those are very fine,
accomplished people. Some of them could be amazing humanitarians. I
don't know their names. I don't know the full details
on any of the first few names. That comes in
the ability for the NFL. They're now letting people have
minority shares in a different way than it used to be.
And also that private equity, I believe can have up
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to ten percent of a team. So it's just infused cash.
And you're saying, well, why would these these people want
to get in here? Why would they want to be.
I really do think it's a vanity play for a
lot of these folks. They're not majority owners. And if
the team ever was to be sold, which I find
it highly unlikely that any of these teams are going
to be just outright sold to a majority partner, they
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would then of course see a windfall of cash. But
in the short term, their owners, they get to live
in the owner's suite, they get to go to their
dinners and say their owners, they're at the league meetings,
and it's all well and good. It's a minority share,
and is it you know? Look, I remember when jay
Z was an owner of the Nets and like pro
Grove was, and I think someone told me, like Jayzon
actually owns point zero one percent. But at the time,
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before all the latest stuff, jay Z was an aim
and it was like this, this is a big deal.
Like jay Z is going to be courtside of the Nets.
It's a major. I think it's cool that Lewis Hamilton
is a minority owner of the Denver Broncos. I think
it is pretty damn cool. When Serena and Mark Anthony
were involved with the Dolphins when that happened, and now
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t mac in visanity can say they own NFL teams.
It's legit. Tom Brady owns an NFL team, now, Richard
Seymour owns an NFL team. Now. I don't know. I
just think of this vision of NFL owner and there's
thirty two of them, and they're in suits and ties
and they sit in a boardroom. It's kind of opening
up a bit, and I think that's pretty cool for
the NFL.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Man Belich actually have just become a part owner of
a team.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Got to find a team, bro Yeah, yeah, it's got
to find a team. These teams got a want the man.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Big week of NFL up ahead, Eagles versus Steelers, Lions
versus Bills. I think Seahawks versus Packers is very interesting.
But my sneaky game of the week, Aaron, Are you
ready for the sneaky game.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Of the week.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Keep an eye on Colts Broncos. Colts come into this
season as a six and seven squad. Entering Week fifteen,
the Broncos are eight and five. A win for the
Colts makes them seven and seven. A win for the
a loss for the Broncos makes them eight and six.
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That would give the tiebreaker to Indianapolis. If you don't mind,
if you have Google up, read me the final three
opponents for Indianapolis after this week, and then read me
the final three opponents for Denver. And I'm going to
set up why this game is so damn important in
the AFC.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
So this week Colts Broncos, and then the Colts are
playing the Titans, the Giants, and the Jaguars.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
That's win, win, win if you're the Colts, right.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
The Broncos have the Colts, and then the Chargers, the
Bengals and Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Okay, I'm just saying, don't overlook this game right now.
The Broncos have a nice two game lead in the
wild Card. But if you lose, it's almost like two losses, folks.
They not only lose a game in the standings, but
they also lose the head to head. Head to head
is a tie breaker. The Indianapolis Coasts have the easiest
final three games of any team in the NFL. Denver
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Broncos have three complicated games. I would argue at Chargers
on a Thursday night is not a cakewalk by any means.
It's probably they're an underdog and that might be a loss.
Then you're talking about a Cincinnati team that just gunned
down and had a blast beaten Dallas to spoil their season.
They would love nothing more than to spoil this one.
And then Kansas City, which right now we assume aren't
playing for anything, but we don't know that. And if
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Kansas City is looking to firm up the one seed
or Kansas City is trying to keep their guys fresh,
we can't assume they're gonna lay down for Denver. So
shadi ly quietly in a week with really good matchups,
keep an eye on Denver Indianapolis for the long term ramifications.
And if Indianapolis can beat Denver, oh baby, the AFC
playoffs just got really interesting. Okay, that's the podcast for
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this week. Many thanks to you Aeron for coming on
in despite having no guests. I thought we had a
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It's going to be a great one. I'll be on
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so I can watch that Sunday night game on my couch.
Hopefully I will not fall ill, and hopefully I will
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Is that his name?
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I like him, dude, He's good. And many others at
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Peter Schreger. This is the Season with Peter Schrager. I'm
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joined by Aaron wang Kaufman, my wonderful Palin producer.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Here.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I'm currently eighty five percent. If you saw Good Morning
Football on Monday, you saw me at thirty percent. I
got stuck with a disgusting bout of food poisoning. I
don't need to go into the details, just brutal Sunday night,
and then Monday morning, did Good Morning Football, then flew
across the country while battling demons, demons, brother demons Erin Tuesday,
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don't remember anything, all a blur, and then Wednesday morning,
I'm feeling better. But we are now recording this on
a Wednesday, and I have not eating a thing since Sunday,
which is pretty impressive and a good way to kickstart
a diet. Unfortunately, I'm not seeing the results. I look
at my reflection on this video over filming, but I
feel like maybe i'll put on some pants later and
I'm down to size and that I'll kickstart, which should
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be an interesting journey back to my playing weight. I
say all that because we don't have a guest this week.
I didn't even think to reach out. But we're not
going to not do a podcast. So Aaron, are we cool?
Just the two of us riffing for a little bit
and given the listeners, the old school Aaron and Peter
go back and forth show or what.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
That sounds great? We got, we got some Broadway lined up,
we got I'm here like we talk Broadway.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
I'm like, I slow down, slow down. My little monologue
is going to be about something that could be outdated
by one o'clock today as we record this at twelve
forty five. And that's why I'm a little hesitant to
go down a deep dive on it. A that it
might be news already by the time this publishers and
if so, fine, and that every minute that slips away
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means it's less and less likely to happen. This whole
Bill Belichick North Carolina thing is fascinating to me. I
think it's very real. I think it's very unorthodox. I
don't think necessarily is something that either side was seriously
entertaining until it happened pretty quickly that he met with them,
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then met with them again. And I know this isn't
as flattering to Belichick as maybe we'd like to make
it be. I don't know if there's an NFL job
that's going to be available, and I know that's not
what anyone wants to hear. It's not the sexy headline,
it's not the North Carolina's recruiting him like to know
end that this is him pushing them away and giving
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them the heisman. I don't know there's three available jobs
right now that we know of. It's the Jets, the Bears,
and the Saints, or at least we don't think they're
hiring those interim coaches. None of those organizations, though they
have the ability to pick his brain, talk to him
and have a casual sit down, has done any sort
of effort to go and meet with the man. You
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go down the list, everyone assumes like Jacksonville is gonna
be handing over everything to him. Well, Trent Balkey just
signed a major deal with Walker Little, an offensive lineman,
giving him real money. And I don't know if owners
usually let the GM sign a player to a major
extension in week thirteen. If the GM isn't at least
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considered to be coming back. Go down the list of
teams Dallas. At one point it sounded like a great marriage.
Belichick comes in, Jerry can finally watch as a coach
brings his team back to relevance, and maybe Belichick breaks
Sholo's record and does it for the Cowboy. The more
and more you hear out of Dallas, I'm not so
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certain Mike McCarthy isn't back next year. And if Mike
McCarthy isn't the guy, is Bill Belichick. The guy's eighty
two year old Jerry Jones hiring seventy three year old
Bill Belichick to bring his whole cast characters in. I
don't know Tampa. I don't think they're firing Todd Bowles. Miami.
I don't think they're firing Mike McDaniel. Go down the
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list of teams. Arizona's keeping Jonathan Gannon, Indianapolis isn't firing
Shane Stike And where is the home? The irony is
team that could use a new coach perhaps and bringing
a whole bunch of new guys is maybe his old
team New England. But we're not going down that road again.
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And I don't think they're getting rid of Gerrodmeyo either.
If there is no NFL job in hand, and Belichick
did this year sabbatical away working for eleven different media
companies and showing his personality on the Manning Cast and
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coming off quite likable with Pat McAfee and crushing the draft,
which I thought was his best moment. I thought he
was amazing on the draft with McAfee. And you know,
joining Instagram, he's got the younger girlfriend that everyone jokes about.
But whatever you want to say or not, like, he's
obviously opening up a little bit more. He's on social media.
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He's trying to do things with a smile publicly, which
was not always his media presence. If the NFL's not
there and he's looking at his legacy and it's I
still want to coach, the North Carolina job is pretty
darn good. He'll come in. He'll be able to bring
in his people, whether that's including Josh McDaniels or Matt
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Patricia or even his son Steven who's a defensive coordinator
at Washington right now. Mick Lombardi he can bring. He
can bring in Mike Lombard, he can bring in all
his guys. They can build up an NFL style program
in the ACC at a really good academic institution, a
place where his father once coached, and do so with
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an ability to come in and say look at the rings, obviously,
look at the parents, and say, hey, look what you're kidding.
Going to get is an a plus education at one
of the best finest academic institutions, but also a whole
added bonus of a way to live your life and
a way to manage yourself on a schedule. And I'm
going to take an NFL style approach to these kids
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and treat them like professionals, but do so in an
undergraduate setting. I think there's a lot worse places to
do it than North Carolina. I also think if you're
looking at that clock and it's okay, you don't have
Tony and Shad Khan reaching out to you behind the
scenes and saying, hey this just hang tight there, like
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let us get let Doug get through this year, let
turn Balki get through this year. Then we're going to
hand it over to you. And if you don't have,
you know, an organization like the Bears, who are two
weeks removed from firing their head coach reaching out to
you to at least have a coffee, and you want
to coach, and that's what you're doing, and that's what
you want to do, and that's your livelihood. Like I
don't know, North Carolina might be the place. And then
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the question is there's North Carolina want that. I think
they should. I think it's a swing at the bat.
And then perhaps he says, all right, and at some
point we handed over to Josh McDaniels or my son Steven,
and they run it from that point and you're getting
a smooth transition. If I'm not coaching for ten years,
but say I'm doing it for three, four or five.
Bruce Feldman is someone I really respect. Bruce Feldman writes
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college football articles for The Athletic. He's also the main
college football insider on Fox. He brought up a really
interesting point in The Athletic a couple of days ago
that has been glossed over with all of our NFL.
You know, we bow to the and we kissed the
rings and the whole thing. Bill Walsh retired, did TV.
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George Seaffert took over the Niners. Bill Walsh came back
and did three unremarkable seasons at Stanford in three years
that were not anything that anyone talks about, that are
not a part of his legacy that no one even
mentions his second goal around there. And I mean I
think John Lynch played for Bill Walsh, if I'm not mistaken,
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And so that was late eighties he came back early nineties.
Got to double check that one, but I believe it
was in that era of like post Lway obviously, but
late eighties early nineties Stanford and Bill Walsh came back
and it was like a and Bill Walsh was significantly
younger than what Belichick is now. Say all this to
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say that I wouldn't be shocked if we get the
story that Bill Belichick is the head coach at North Carolina,
and I would embrace it. I would look forward to it.
It's a new approach to it. It's not Mac Brown
coming back to a college program. It's Bill Belichick coming
with a vengeance to show what he's still got and
to show that he could take on this nil and
recruiting thing like no one elver has before. I mean
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the fact that Saban's retired and is younger than Belichick
and has already walked away as probably the greatest college
coach since Bear Bryant's interesting as now Belichick is going
to dip his toes into those waters. It was almost
like it was church and State. Belichick's the NFL guy,
Saban's the college guy. They get along, great, beautiful friendship.
Belichick's going back to college. It excites me. It excites
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me more than hearing Belichick is going to the Jacksonville
Jaguars again. We'll wait and see, but that is my
initial thoughts. And I would add two cents from two
guys I've really grown to really enjoy, and that's Julian
Edelman and Robert Gronkowski. I was with them this past
weekend at Fox, and it's just green room chatter, and
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this is where the best stuff comes out. And I
didn't have any of this conversation with Brady, so I
can't even weigh in with his thoughts, but I'm sure
it's in line with these two. They both were like,
I can't imagine I can't imagine Belichick sitting down and
like begging a kid and then offering him money to
play college football, and then you know, the second the
season's over, the kid declaring to the transfer portal. I'm
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like that's just the thought of Belichick groveling or even
having to like barter for this thing is beyond their belief.
But they all said the same thing, like they're amazing
better people because of their time with Bill, and if
you could instill that into a college kid, that kid's
going to be very you know, well off for the
rest of his life. Aaron, You're not as connected as
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I am necessarily as far as these conversations go. But
you follow the NFL Belichick college coach. What was your
reaction when you heard that news that he interviewed with
you and c I had.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I had two initial thoughts. The first one is I
kind of love it, Like I love the idea that
here's someone who has put together some of the greatest
coaching that you know, especially my generation has ever seen.
And the thought that hey, he's just gonna go conquer
something else. Maybe like maybe his time has been his,
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the NFL has passed him by, but he could still
do really well, and I think he would.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
He would he would like jump through the screen and
be like, that's not the case. Let me get that
NFL bite at the Apple I had not passed me by.
I just don't know if a team is willing to
hand him that opportunity. So if that's the case, is
he jump into It's almost like before you break up
with me, I'm going to break up with you, NFL.
That's how I see it.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Well, I mean, the other thing I thought is, after
this this year of being smiley and fun and posing
with his girlfriend on Instagram pictures in Halloween costumes, does
he want something that's maybe a little less cutthroat?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Does he want to go in and be more like
helping to develop these kids, right father figure, as opposed
to maybe like the really difficult, you know, strict coach
that we know of from you.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I think talking to these college guys, they're so burned
out of the college game, a lot of them. Jeff Halfley,
I couldn't speak on being his behalf, but he was
the coach at PC. He chose to be a defensive
coordinator at the Packers over being a head coach at
Bustin College. Chip Kelly was the head coach at UCLA.
He says, this the thing for me, the offensive coordinator.
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I think being a head coach in the college.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Game is a young man's game, dude.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
It is recruiting, hustling, reading these websites, reading the blogs,
spending other people's money. It's it's almost a I it's
almost an easy I don't know. Maybe it's not his cutthroat.
You can go six and six at in Chapel Hill
and not feel the heat. But like it's no less work.
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I'll tell you that.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Does it preserve his legacy better? If he were to
come back to the NFL, like you were saying and
have three disappointing seasons, that hurts him. But if he
goes to UNC and has you know, three five win seasons,
it doesn't. It's not going to be in the record
books the same way. No.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
I look at it, and I wonder he okay. So
Mike Lombardi in many ways speaks on his own opinions,
but also speaks based on conversations with Belichick. And Lombardi
was on his website or his podcast and I saw
the clip. I watched it online and he said that
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the this was from Friday. He might decided to Chris
Russo actually that the Shula record, the win total record,
which he is in arms distance of, probably needs one
good year and maybe half of another good year. That
shula wins record is not at all on Belichick's like
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must have lists. It's not what keeps him up at night.
And if anyone thinks that they don't know Bill, well,
if that's the case and he just wants to coach,
there might be nothing more pure than developing college players
into NFL talent and creating that pipeline. Cause I tell
you this, NFL teams are gonna want to take a
risk on a kid who was coached by Belichick over
a kid who is coached by some other coach who
they don't know or necessarily have the respector kind of
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you know, the honor, has that honor to them.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I mean he is close.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
How close?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Shula has three twenty eight wins? Bill has three hundred
and two, So he would need at least two seasons.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
That would I say a season and a half? Yeah, okay,
so kind of needs two to three seasons in the NFL.
That's a that puts him at seventy six years old.
If he gets the right team, if he gets the
right wins and it all.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Works out, Andy's right behind him with two seventy and.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
He's coming and Andy is stepping away anytime either.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
And then the next closest current is Tomlin with one
to eighty three. So he he He's in the top five.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
No one's questioning it. I think he's the greatest coach
of all time. It's him, Lombardi, Hallis Shula, maybe Andy
Reid sneaking into that conversation too. The rings tell the story.
If it's a legacy question, that's absurd. Your legacy's firm.
The question is does he have that chip on his
shoulder that the I need another bite at the NFL.
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I wasn't ready to end it. I didn't end it
on my terms. I mean mutually parted ways in New England.
You know, he interviewed in Atlanta, and I think the
assumption was he'd have a list of teams that are
lining up for him. I don't know if I see that,
And I've said that Bill Simmons a couple weeks ago,
and it was like it was it was aggregated. It
was like some shocking statement. But there's three teams that
could currently talk to him, and from what I gathered,
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none of them have sat even headed coffee with him.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Wow. I mean not what you expected five years ago,
for sure, not what you even expected when he was
taking this year off, I think everyone expected him to
like do TV and go out of his mind because
he missed it so much. So I don't know, it
is wild to think of him not doing the NFL.
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But he was also someone who, like I mean, there
are stories of him watching college games in high school
games and coming up with ideas. So he's already probably
locked into UNC's playbook. I mean, he had like a
two hundred page document he gave them.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Well, he also spent the year, I'm told at NFL films,
and I don't know if I'm on leaking unleashing secret
Like he's got all the all twenty two, Like he
breaks down every single game. But he also does college
so like if there was a draft tomorrow, he's ready
to go. He knows all the college players and talks
to all the college coaches, And Mike Florio posted it
today like all these college coaches let him into the
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building and observe practice and have his way around the facilities.
They didn't think he was going to be their competitor
next year, but maybe he will, so we'll see. This
could be outdated. If it is, we still like to
listen to us about and around. We'd like to hear
your thoughts. Tweet me at p schregs at psc ch RGS.
I want to hear your thoughts on Belichick. The other
thing that I'd like to bring up that I think
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is actually really interesting is the NFL announcing some minority
ownership for the Buffalo Bills. And I don't know if
you saw this. Who's now a minority owner of the Bills?
Three names and I thought were really cool.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Do you see this? Aaron ten new limited partners to ownership.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Okay, read them out loud. If you got the press
release up read read them out loud, and save the
big three for the end.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Okay, so let's see for the listeners. I don't have
the list in front of me. Read the boring ones first.
We're probably just finance private equity people who whatever, this
is cool for them to go to their rich person
party and say that they own a team. Who do
we got? So?
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I think there are two big ones, but Arctos some.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Actos's private equity.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
So great, good Rob Palombo Okay, don't know mc collum.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Don't know her, Teresa Gao, don't know her, Lovely, don't
know her rob Ward love him, don't know him, Mike
ju don't know Jew love him, Tom Berger great dude,
don't know him.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Josie Altador Okay, do you know.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Who Josie Outdoor is?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Okay, Josie Outsdour is one of the greatest US soccer
players of all time. Josie Aldador is now a minority
owner of the Buffalo Bills. Let's keep going. Who else
is the minority owner of the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I'm gonna between these last two, I'm gonna go with
the one that I'm gonna say. Number one is who
meant the most to me as a child, Okay, So
start with number two? Is Vince Carter.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Vince Carter Vin Sanity is now a minority owner of
the Buffalo Bills. I love this. And who is the
last minority owner of the Buffalo Bills? Announced today at
the league meetings?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Tracy McGrady T mac.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Is an owner of the Bills. What I mean this
goes back that to Toronto connection, I suppose, But like,
if you really want to do a deep dive, neither
one of those guys Toronto careers ended well. Vince cried
his way out, got traded, went to the Nets and
then uh, if you remember t Mac had the biggest
free agency ever, went to Orlando. But okay, whatever they were,
they brought basketball to Canada and they are beloved. And
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of course Vince had his jersey retired in Toronto, and
I think this is amazing. And Josie Aldador is a
US soccer player, Like, all right, so what does that
all mean? I could have on a sports business expert.
What's interesting is the NFL's opening up the pie a
little bit and they allowed in six different private equity group.
So all those names you heard in the beginning, and
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I was being dismissive, I'm sure that those are very fine,
accomplished people. Some of them could be amazing humanitarians. I
don't know their names. I don't know the full details
on any of the first few names. That comes in
the ability for the NFL. They're now letting people have
minority shares in a different way than it used to be.
And also that private equity, I believe can have up
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to ten percent of a team. So it's just infused cash.
And you're saying, well, why would these these people want
to get in here? Why would they want to be.
I really do think it's a vanity play for a
lot of these folks. They're not majority owners. And if
the team ever was to be sold, which I find
it highly unlikely that any of these teams are going
to be just outright sold to a majority partner, they
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would then of course see a windfall of cash. But
in the short term, their owners, they get to live
in the owner's suite, they get to go to their
dinners and say their owners, they're at the league meetings,
and it's all well and good. It's a minority share,
and is it you know? Look, I remember when jay
Z was an owner of the Nets and like pro
Grove was, and I think someone told me, like Jayzon
actually owns point zero one percent. But at the time,
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before all the latest stuff, jay Z was an aim
and it was like this, this is a big deal.
Like jay Z is going to be courtside of the Nets.
It's a major. I think it's cool that Lewis Hamilton
is a minority owner of the Denver Broncos. I think
it is pretty damn cool. When Serena and Mark Anthony
were involved with the Dolphins when that happened, and now
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t mac in visanity can say they own NFL teams.
It's legit. Tom Brady owns an NFL team, now, Richard
Seymour owns an NFL team. Now. I don't know. I
just think of this vision of NFL owner and there's
thirty two of them, and they're in suits and ties
and they sit in a boardroom. It's kind of opening
up a bit, and I think that's pretty cool for
the NFL.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Man Belich actually have just become a part owner of
a team.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Got to find a team, bro Yeah, yeah, it's got
to find a team. These teams got a want the man.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Big week of NFL up ahead, Eagles versus Steelers, Lions
versus Bills. I think Seahawks versus Packers is very interesting.
But my sneaky game of the week, Aaron, Are you
ready for the sneaky game.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Of the week.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Keep an eye on Colts Broncos. Colts come into this
season as a six and seven squad. Entering Week fifteen,
the Broncos are eight and five. A win for the
Colts makes them seven and seven. A win for the
a loss for the Broncos makes them eight and six.
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That would give the tiebreaker to Indianapolis. If you don't mind,
if you have Google up, read me the final three
opponents for Indianapolis after this week, and then read me
the final three opponents for Denver. And I'm going to
set up why this game is so damn important in
the AFC.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
So this week Colts Broncos, and then the Colts are
playing the Titans, the Giants, and the Jaguars.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
That's win, win, win if you're the Colts, right.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
The Broncos have the Colts, and then the Chargers, the
Bengals and Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Okay, I'm just saying, don't overlook this game right now.
The Broncos have a nice two game lead in the
wild Card. But if you lose, it's almost like two losses, folks.
They not only lose a game in the standings, but
they also lose the head to head. Head to head
is a tie breaker. The Indianapolis Coasts have the easiest
final three games of any team in the NFL. Denver
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Broncos have three complicated games. I would argue at Chargers
on a Thursday night is not a cakewalk by any means.
It's probably they're an underdog and that might be a loss.
Then you're talking about a Cincinnati team that just gunned
down and had a blast beaten Dallas to spoil their season.
They would love nothing more than to spoil this one.
And then Kansas City, which right now we assume aren't
playing for anything, but we don't know that. And if
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Kansas City is looking to firm up the one seed
or Kansas City is trying to keep their guys fresh,
we can't assume they're gonna lay down for Denver. So
shadi ly quietly in a week with really good matchups,
keep an eye on Denver Indianapolis for the long term ramifications.
And if Indianapolis can beat Denver, oh baby, the AFC
playoffs just got really interesting. Okay, that's the podcast for
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this week. Many thanks to you Aeron for coming on
in despite having no guests. I thought we had a
nice little rep pet pet, little little convo. Jason English
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Hopefully I will not fall ill, and hopefully I will
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Is that his name?
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I like him, dude, He's good. And many others at
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