February 5, 2026 • 30 mins
It's Super Bowl Week! Roman Harper and Peanut Tillman talk to Ryan Nece and Vince Wilfork for wide-ranging conversations on football, business, and life after the game.
Ryan Nece talks about what Super Bowl Week is really like, being part of a rare father-son duo, his time with the Buccs, and his transition into entrepreneurship with Next Legacy, including how technology plays a role in his business today.
Then, Vince Wilfork joins the conversation to talk about the 10-year anniversary of his ESPN The Body Issue photoshoot, the work he’s doing with the USO, and of course, his go-to BBQ dish.
And yes… they even talk about cold showers.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
What's up, everybody. I'm Peanut Tillman and this is the
NFL Player's.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Second Act podcast and with me as always as my
trusty co host, mister Roman Harper. We're at Super Bowl
or Media Row, hanging out, putting on the show.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I'm excited.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
This is our first day full time at the media
media road day. It's a you know, I always enjoy
just looking out here into the crowd and seeing who
do I like, Who's got the best outfit, on who's
got the biggest entourage. I've not seen a big entourage
yet day, not yet, so I'm looking forward to seeing
who's gonna be the guy or the gal with the
biggest entourage.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
All right, Our next guest is a seven year VET.
He played for Tampa, he played for Detroit. He is
a Super Bowl champ. This is he is the co
founder of Next Legacy Ladies.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Joleman. Please welcome to the pod. Ryan Neie just go yo.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Thank you, appreciate it. Gentlemen. It's good energy in here today.
I mean, you guys are starting it off rid for
you are first guest. I know you set there. I
mean there's a lot of pressure.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
But no, no, you're gonna rocket this thing up and
we're not gonna come back down. All right, We're just
gonna stay up there.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
I'm gonna set the bar.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Then, So what's your favorite part about Super Bowl Week?
Speaker 4 (01:14):
I mean, it's a couple of things. One, it's an
annual reunion, right every year, you think about it, most
industries in the world of business, they have an annual conference,
they have an annual meeting. There's something that brings people back.
This is our annual meeting. This is our annual conference.
And so to see current players, former players, to see executives,
people in the media world, people across the world of sports,
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is always phenomenal to reconnect and catch up with people
you haven't seen since the previous year.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
How much business or work do you think you get
done when you come here, because I know you probably assume, okay,
I want to try and get this, this and this,
But you're an entrepreneur. You do a lot of different
things that are on your resume. So like, how much
work do you get done here?
Speaker 4 (01:53):
I get a lot that get a lot done. I mean,
because work is both art and science. And then the
work that we do obviously they're as a science component
and you've got to spend time digging in the numbers
and evaluating and doing diligence and looking at opportunities, whether
that be a company or a fund. But then there's
the art part, which is the human part. And so
that's the interaction and the ability to have discernment and
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spend time with people and oftentimes figuring out how to
bring value to others. And so this is a great
place to bring value to people, to get to have generals,
talk with generals to help facilitate the appropriate introductions. And
so we spend a lot of time trying to make
sure folks have access to the appropriate people, the right people.
And then behind it, we spend a lot of time educating.
(02:37):
You guys know this. There is a tremendous amount of
noise out there. Some of it's good, some of it
maybe not so good. We try to cut through the
noise and hopefully give our community, especially the world of athletes,
the opportunity here and learn from the men and women
that are the best, specifically in our backyard, which is
Silicon Valley. And so this is a full week for
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us of activity and bringing great people together.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Fraternities, you're turning very small fraternity you and your dad
both have super Bowls.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yes, father son duo.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
There's not a lot of us. Club.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Do you know the other duo that has one?
Speaker 4 (03:14):
The Long Family. Oh yeah, oh yeah, the Long Family
and the Greasis. So there's three. You know. It's listen.
It's a prestigious club.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
It is.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
That's that's a good club to be a part of.
You know that I knew Bob, I knew Bob and Bryan,
but I forgot about the Longs.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, that one.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Our family is pretty competitive. My dad likes to remind
me he has four and I only have one. You know,
it's just families like I like to say, we have
five as a family, dad, you know, instead of yeah,
separating us.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
You know, I like to community.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Community.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
You gotta have it, you gotta have it all right.
So you know your super Bowl? Talking about your super
Bowl in Tampa Bay. That was a great team and defensively,
that's what every already knew you guys about, right.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Yeah, I mean, if you think about I didn't mean
to cut you off, but I mean you think about
that team. I don't know if I can if I
can name another defense in the NFL in NFL history,
that has four Hall of Famers on that defense that
won Super Bowls. You think about John Lynch and Warren
Sap and Rendez Barber. You think about Derek Brooks, you
think about Simeon.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Simm Is, the one that's out.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
He's out. He just got his number retired. With press
is trying to make a you know, trying to trying
to make a push push for him. I wish he
was so good.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
He was even at Illinois where he came from, like
watching him and.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Sack Master, Yeah, he was, you know, he had the
sack Master quarterback killer on the inside. I mean it
was a dangerous upfront.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
What was it like hanging out with that that defense,
those guys that.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Was a locker room line. Yeah, because I came in
as I came and as my rookie year. OK, so
you come in and you got to you know, you know,
the pecking order really quickly.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
But I will say the level of accountability, the level
of attention to detail, the pursuit of excellent on that team.
The standard, like the standard was the standard, and if
you didn't buy in, you were quickly washed out. And
so it it honestly, it allowed me to play as
long as I did, because I saw what greatness looked like.
I saw the way they practiced, why they walked, the
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way they talked, the way they talked shit, the way
they held each other accountable. I mean, it was incredible,
and they didn't. The amazing part is it was the
first time where no disrespect to our offense. They really
didn't care what our offense did. They felt like the
responsibility was on their defense to win the game, to
score points, to create turnovers. It was that type of
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mentality like, well, we'll just fundamentally win the game on
our own. We don't actually the offense.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Is you know, I mean, we appreciate it that way,
It'll be okay, what I appreciate about that.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
That's how it was in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Now, we didn't have the best offense, but we were
so the team, the city, I think even the organization.
They were just like, no, it's about the defense, and
we didn't really care about what our offense did or
how many We did care how many points that score,
but at the same time we really didn't because we
were trying to win games.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
They could put three on the board. We felt like
you got a chance.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
To exactly if they don't.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
It is.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
It is, but when you're around it, you're just.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
I remember Gruden came in. That was Gruden's first year,
and he challenged the defense not just to get turnovers,
but to score touchdowns. I've never seen a coach challenge
of defense to get touchdowns. And at the end of
that year, I think we set the record for I
don't know, it might have been broken by now for
the number of touchdowns scored by a defense. I mean
that was. Yeah, it was an incredible atmosphere to walk into. Yeah,
(06:35):
now that locker room. You guys know the locker room.
You know, you got guys like SAP and you know,
there's there's there's. It was dynamic, it was energetic, you know,
you you had to be careful what you said.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Oh it was also before social media were guys like
you just got to understand that that that is a
different element.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
There's no HR departments in locker room. That's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
That's what I said.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
You talk about some of the work you're doing in
next legacy.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Yeah, so at next leg see currently we are you know,
I started the firm twenty fourteen. Fast forward to where
we are today twenty five people about four billion under management.
We have really four distinct products that we invest out of.
Our flagship product is our fund to fund product. I
learned early on from my father and many other great
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men that have invested in Silicon Valley in the world
of tech for a long time that if you're going
to play in this game, you better play with the
very best. And we're very fortunate at that fund to
invest in iconic venture capital funds and we're able to
put dollars to work with those managers and thankfully they've
been able to generate returns. What's unique about that fund
is all of our investors direct their proceeds the money
(07:44):
that we returned to them to charitable causes, and so
over the history of our firm, we've given back about
three billion dollars back to nonprofits and foundations and organizations
around the world, and so I'm extremely proud of that.
On top of that, you know, we have I don't know,
one hundred and seventy plus athletes, thirty ish team owners
(08:06):
across sports. We've been able to be a bridge to
give our community the opportunity to have a seat at
the table in this world of tech, to learn to
connect and engage with people that we think are doing
things at the highest level. And so no dole moments.
It's a full time gig. I eat, sleep, and breathe it.
(08:26):
I'll drink the kool aid hard. I think the world
of technology is fascinating. It's as competitive as it is
as football was. And if you think about what's going
on with this world of AI right now, I mean,
what we're going to see over the next five years
and all of our lives will be transformational. The fact
that we can put dollars to work in companies that
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are changing the world and changing the trajectory on how
we operate as a society, that's pretty phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Okay, you brought it up, So I just got to
know because you're still a valley You're you know, how
does it make you nervous?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
The technology?
Speaker 4 (09:06):
I think all all all change makes everybody nervous. Okay, good,
And so I think it's like most things we've seen
with step functions of technology shifts throughout the history of technology.
People you'll use that tool for good and then there
are bad actors. Unfortunately, man has shown us that they're
not all wired the same, and so they will use
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that technology and inappropriate ways, and that that makes me nervous.
Me too, but too, But I still carrying. You know,
as we get older, you fight this, but you got
to carry a level of optimism. You got to carry
a level of belief. And the others that are out
there that are going to continue to fight for the good,
that are going to continue to champion doing the right thing,
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that are going to be scared and hold the line
and create standards and accountability. That's what we have to
believe that there are men and women that will stand
up and hopefully there's more of them than less of them.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, So where does that entrepreneur drive come from?
Speaker 4 (10:08):
It's a great question, and it's a question that I
ask a lot of a lot of founders because if
you think about being an athlete or an entrepreneur or
building something you're doing, you're trying to attempt to do
the impossible and make it very possible. Usually there's something
in someone's life that has triggered them a moment, a girlfriend,
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a parent, a life situation that's given them some internal drive.
I think for me it's two things. One, I had
a father that is excellent in all things. The pursuit
to get his approval, the pursuit to win his attention
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to a certain extent from a young age. That's that's
always going to be an underlining drive. And then on
the second part of that is I understand the opportunity
as athletes that we have. We are so privileged. Good
Man upstairs has given us so many opportunities to be
able to be a voice, to be able to be
an ambassador, to be able to speak up for others
that may not have a voice. And so for me,
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my drive to be able to put us in a
position to continue to win beyond in our second act,
in our in our post careers, and that fuels me
every single day. I carry that responsibility so that I
can make sure that others say, oh well there's hey,
there's life after ball. There are other ways to approach
this game and find ways to continue to be champions
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in life. And so the combination of those they get
me out of bed.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
You definitely got that spirit, Like you can tell I
want you to tell me, and I know you're going
to do a great job. Tell me more about the
Ryan Eese Foundation. When did you start it?
Speaker 4 (11:55):
We're celebrating twenty years it's crazy, and as you guys know,
I'm sure you've maybe had your own foundations as athletes,
and it's it's kind of part of like a rite
of passage to face say you have a foundation. I
wasn't that creative with the name, obviously spending a lot
of time clearly.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Original, that's I usually describe it.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
It's original. But I knew, you know, giving back was
something that was really important. My mom's taught me that,
my father showed me that, and a philosophy that I
lived by to this day is a giving hand is
never empty. And so I always found the more that
I gave, the more that I got back. And when
I went to Tampa, I didn't know anybody. I didn't
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really care for the city. At first, I was an
LA guy. I was trying to get adjusted to a
new city. And all of a sudden we went as
Super Bowl and I start spending time in the community,
and all of a sudden, I realized that I really
enjoy and love the community because of what it was
giving to me. And at that time, I realized, you
know what, I need to create an organization that I
think can give back. And truthfully, I didn't know exactly
(13:01):
what we were gonna do. I just wanted to make
a den, and so we were giving away cars. We
were helping moms, we were helping dads, we were having breakfasts,
we were having lunches, we were doing all kinds of stuff,
and people like, man, you guys do amazing work, but
I don't know what you do. And so at that
point I realized that there are amazing organizations that are
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trying to eradicate homelessness, that are trying to cure cancer,
that are trying to find ways to help those in need.
I wasn't gonna I didn't either recreate the WHELL. But
what I realized is those organizations have board members, volunteers, sponsors, donors,
and men and women that are helping those organizations succeed.
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And I felt at that time that young people and
I still think it is today, were starting to be
indoctrinated with messages about taking care of self, and if
we didn't start to teach them about the power of giving,
about thinking about others, about finding ways to make a
different diference, that those organizations that were doing amazing work
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would loser volunteers, would lose board members, and would lose
support down the road, and so I wrote and created
a curriculum that teaches young high school juniors and seniors
the principles of the power of giving. And through that curriculum,
it helps them understand how to be more courageous as
a servant leader, to find ways to look at others
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and see needs and step up. And so you know,
now twenty years later, that program and that curriculum is
in seventeen schools in the Tampa Bay Area. We'll launch
programming here in the Bay Area in San Francisco next
school season, which is an exciting, exciting to be in
two cities. So really proud of the work that we're
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doing there. And what's amazing is we start with one question.
I think sometimes it's you know you guys, get back
to the basics, the fundamentals. Do something that's very simple,
and then build from there. When's the last time you
asked a family member or friend how can I help you?
And then hopefully our students learn that question, are able
at the end of the program to say I asked
that question on a regular basis, because if we can
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do that, I think lives can be changed.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
So I have a cold tub in my little basement. Yeah,
I don't use it all the time, but I need
to use it more.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Okay, tell me this love you have for taking coal showers.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Oh, man, took one this morning. I love it. I mean,
it's part of it's this, it's mental Okay, you know,
part of what I've learned. Where I feel alive in
life is when i'm at the extremes. Yeah, whether you're
you know, working out and you're in that moment where
you actually are doing a rep to failure, or when
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you're in a moment where you're in a cold tub
and in your mind, every ounce of you, every selling
your body is telling you, I need to get out
of this. How can I calm myself? I feel alive
in those moments? Yeah, I've all find it. I find it.
It's therapy. And so the cold showers routine for me,
it wakes me up. It's a nice way to uh
get up and start the day and after.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Is it like a long cold shower? Is it just
like a quick stays.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Yeah, that's a good question. And actually a cold shower
standing like you take a cold shower in New York
this time of year, so that water is a little
different than the West Coast, Like the temperature is a
little different, but it stays on cold. I take it
the whole time. It's a cold shower, so it's like
a normal shower. It's just cold the whole time.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Okay, you know, Peanut, I gotta be honest. I think
that's the first one we've had, like cold shower. It's fine,
Like I take cold showers after a hot sonner, but
like that's it.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yeah, I gotta yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
I'm not a cold guy. You not a cold guy?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Got it all?
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Did you do cold tubs? No?
Speaker 1 (16:46):
I did?
Speaker 4 (16:47):
When you played you didn't do? Oh I did you
still do it?
Speaker 5 (16:52):
No? I did?
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Like contrast, Oh man, I love it all the.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Hate it still hate it.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Not that guy.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
You could have got like one more years out of it.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
It's fine.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
I'm good.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
You weren't trying to do nothing extra anyway.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
I'm good.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
He was only worried about the weight room.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
I did.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I was gonna do this.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Did you lift on Saturday before the game? No? Friday?
See you know Joey Galloway. Galloway was. He loved the
way Galloway would work out, like he might get a
couple of squats in like game day. I mean the
guy it was, it was. It was incredible. My fact
check it.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
But look, I just know I gave up a touchdown
on him very early on in my career.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
He just did give that thing.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Was like, okay, I know I got to get my.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
He had that sneaky speed. He always just was once
one step faster than the fastest guy.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
All the time.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
That's how he played.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
It was.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
It was incredible.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Ron. We appreciate you coming on the pop.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Yeah, thank you, guys. I appreciate the work you're doing
and the stories you're telling. I mean, these are important stories,
not just for your audience, but for all of the
athletes that are out there. So I'm glad that you
guys are doing this. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Appreciate you, no doubt. Man. We'll finished talking about that
other stuff too.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Yes, after the past.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Our next guest is a two time Super Bowl champion,
A barbecue savant, savant savant like I don't think I've
ever even said that, ladies, Whiman please welcome to the pot.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Viz Wolf.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
What's going on? Guys? Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Where does that come from?
Speaker 6 (18:29):
You know, I grew I grew up my father was
a big barbecue guy. You know, my mom was a cook,
my grandma was a cook, and my great was cooked.
So I grew up around nothing but great cooks. But
my dad was the barbecue guy. And you know, I
just started my barbecue sauce. Now I gotta have it.
Gh I forgot to have it because of my father,
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because growing up, he used to say, you know, I
need this, go, I gotta have it. Go, get in
the onion. I gotta have it.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
He always got to have it, right. I like it.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
And as I got, as I got into the NFL,
you know, we have got to have it situations. So
when I heard bills like hey, and it's got to
have a situation, I'm like, dang, that's my daddy. I
holy smoke. So when he said it, it just brought
me back to a childhood with barbecue. And that's why
I came out with my barbecue sauce. Got to have it.
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But my barbecue comes from my father, my upbringing, and
that's what we did, you know, every week every weekend
that's were grilling. You know, we're grilling. And it's stuck
to me and I just try to perfect it. Now
at this point in my life, so everything's going good.
I'm happy with it. But I'm a foodie. I'm a foodie.
I take the barbecue from my father, and I take
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the baking and the dishes on the on the stove
from my mom and my grandmother and that side of
the family. So I'm all in one. It's not just
a barbecue. Now. I still get it. I still get it.
Don't get it twisted.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Now I will get it twisted.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
So did you realize that today I want to show
you something, Thomas, this is tenth year?
Speaker 5 (20:08):
Oh yeah, really?
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (20:12):
On the body that boy sexy, big sex, big sexy.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
That boy.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
I mean he not big no more, but he literally
how is wow? Ten years when I tell you that,
what are you thinking? I mean, first of all, look
at that stride.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
Man, look at I'm an athlete now that's always be an athlete.
You know when I did that, they came to me
and I didn't hesitate because I love myself. I love
when I was that mean, that was three sixty. I
love myself. I always. My brother can tell you I
used to always take my shirt off growing up. I'm
a big boy. I don't care big Luther and right,
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the big look not the little big and I was
so I was always proud of myself because I just
looked at myself as a little guy when I just
loved myself. So when they came to me to do it,
I'm like, absolutely, let's make it happen. And all three
of you it was everything.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
It was.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
It was positive and it was and I'm like, listen, man,
I don't have anything to hide.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
You know, this is who I am. This is how
I operate. In ten years.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Yes, boss, it's crazy because it kind of started when
you went with the Texans.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yes, you were on the end of the over my
overalls over everybody. Yeah hard, yes, and what really jumped
it off?
Speaker 5 (21:23):
Man?
Speaker 6 (21:23):
And like, but I think when I got you know,
in New England, I had the same personality, but you know,
we in the code and it was different. But when
I went down south in Houston, now you can really
I can really be who I am. You could see
my personality and this is how you gotta understand. I have.
I had one hundred acre ranch and I that's how
I used to dressed on my ranch. I put my
overalls on and I go to work. If I'm bailing
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hay or the cows, that's how I used to Oh,
I'm fishing and cooking.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
That's how it worked.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
And I just thought, let me let me show Houston
who I am.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
And when I came in with that, and I swear
to this day, people stopped me. To this day, they
always want the overalls, they always wants and it was
so organic and natural.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
We're gonna take a short break and we'll be back
in the MIDI.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
I love the hat, I love the shirt. My dad
was in the Army. I've been in Iraq, I've been overseas.
I've done been to Germany, Japan, Kuwait. I've done so
many US SOL tours. Yes, they're awesome. Talk to me
about what you're doing with us.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
You know, my father is a Vietnam bat, my father
in law was a Vietnam vet. And my wife, she's
a brat, you know, military brat and military was always
close to me. For some reason, I always threw myself
to these guys and throughout my whole life, throughout my career,
(22:51):
having be a militant, being his background military, so we
used to be surrounded by military. So when the USO
came aboard and was like, hey, do you want to come,
you know, go with us and hang out with the
troops overseas.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
I'm like, hell, yeah, let's do it, you know.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
And in three years we've be being in eleven countries Africa.
We was in Kuwait, Yeah, did Sicily, Djibouti, Jordan still to.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Go to Jibuti, you know, Jordan. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
So that's what we just did this past December. And
when I tell you, it's like to look on their faces. Wheah,
people come visit and see them and just talk with them.
A lot of football fans love football, you know, especially
with New England in the past two decades. So I
have a lot of Patriots fans and I'm like, listen,
you guys are the true Patriots, like you are the heroes.
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We are here for you. And I think the USO
do a real good job of trying to bridge that
gap for guys that's that's out and haven't seen family
in years, right, you know, eighteen nineteen, twenty years old
away from family to get homesick, right, And that's what
the USO is all about. Those guys like that, whatever
you need, they try to make it, try to lighten
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their low and just being able to sow them and understand, like, hey,
we love and respect and support everything you stand for
for us as Americans, because you guys look at me
as this great football player, this, that and the other.
I'm like, but if it wasn't for what you do,
it wouldn't be possible for us to do and give
you guys this soul. Always, we always want to make
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sure and have them understand this isn't about us, but
the freedom that you guys, the daily sacrifices that you
guys make daily for us and your families, Like it
doesn't go unnoticed, and sometimes it can get lost in
the shuffle right when you when you deploy it and
you're away from people for years and you really don't
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see nobody but the same people that you you know,
you hanging and banging with your war buddies or your
new family and the military, and all all of a sudden,
you know you have these celebrities coming and come hang
out with you, just to spend an hour with them.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
It goes a long way.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
And the one thing that touch my heart the most
is when I come back and I get emails from
the family members, the mothers, the fathers, the sisters, the husbands,
the wives just telling me how much they enjoyed because
their brother over there, they took a picture and what
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you did for them, it goes a long way. And
that's the reason we do it, right, to show them
how much we love and respect them. And that's what
always gives me kind of goosebumps because man, I can
be all the way and kuwait and here all of
a sudden, I can check my phone and Instagram and
I have a message from one of the soldiers that
we exchanged in the staying country. That's what it's all about,
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just being able to give them that camaraderie. And you
know part of sports, camaraderie is huge, right, That's what
it is.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Right.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
So when you hanging and banging with those with your
fellow teammates, your soldiers and troops, you want to make
sure you have that camaraderie. And so that's what we
give them. We give them that sense of piece, we
give them that support, that love, and we just showed
them this how much we love them.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
Man, appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
I got I got one. I got a question for you.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
So everybody always you know, go back to Super Bowls
forty nine, everybody.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Always talks about the interception.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
But I want to know what you were thinking, Vince
when you playing defense and all of a sudden, Marshawn
runs the ball all the way down to the one
yard line, Like, what's going through your mind?
Speaker 5 (26:23):
Now?
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I know gotta have it.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
I gotta have it. Baby. That was a guy. I
have a situation. You understand that. Hey, we got it now, right?
Speaker 6 (26:31):
So me, I'm sitting here saying, many to run this boy,
because my mindset is it's the best best back in
the game on the one yard line. I'm going to
pound him. If I'm the coach, I'm pounding this. I
don't care what you put in front of him. I'm
pounding them. So I'm thinking run all day, all day,
I'm thinking run in when they put yeah, when they
put it in the air, I'm like, man, that was bold.
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But at the same time, I get it. But yeah,
with a back like that, Yeah, I don't even care
if I had Marshall on a not on the one
yard line. Man, whoever back there getting all my grandma
could be back there.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
I'm a line up one yard behind me and gotta
have it.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
Then you don't get too far back there, No, you
can't get I need you right here and I'm to
do this or I'm sneaking howl.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
But I'm not an offensive minded guy. Understand offense.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
But it's stupid to me when you go get line
up and shotgun on the one yard line, Like I
still want to understand that right under Like like you
line it coached themselves and it cost them, and it
cost it cost them, it cast them.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
How did you treat super Bowl Week?
Speaker 2 (27:42):
I tried to treat you know, the two times we
came here, I've been to Super Bowls.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
I treated it like a normal game week. Pretty successful
for me.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
What was your same thing?
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Same thing?
Speaker 6 (27:50):
Like I never my whole career. I never got too high,
never too low. Any game I played Super Bowl, it
was just the same thing. You know, you have family
to come in and allocated some time to family, but hey,
when it's time to work, I'm working. I'll see you
guys after the game. And it was no different. You know,
game week were here for a reason. Business, no business,
that's just what it is.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
We got. We play this game to get here.
Speaker 6 (28:13):
So I'm not gonna let one week affect the outcome
of this game and me going to do something stupid
or nothing or doing something that I normally don't do.
I'm just not gonna do that. I'm gonna stay locked in.
I'm gonna treat it normal. And I think Bill did
a real good job of us too, just explaining to
like the new guys, like, Okay, now you know, instead
of having thirteen minutes it green in the game, you
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got twenty minutes, right, So to warm up, you have
to do things different, okay.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Instead of have time being X amount of time, it's
this time.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
So don't you know, don't do nothing crazy relaxed, because
we have guys that go in there and get sick
and anxiety and throwing up, and it's like, hey, man,
like we told you this. You know the excitement it
gets to them. But I was just one of those
guys were like, nah, I'm gonna keep it simple, you
know what I mean, and just approach it like I
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approach every game, and being a leader, just being walking
around and making sure your teammates okay, and just lighting
the move to get their anxiety levels down to just
telling jokes and listening to music, calm music, just everything
I could do to kind of settle my team and
my teammates who I know needed it. I did it,
and it worked well for us. I mean I won
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two lost to I've been in for so I'm batt
in fifty percent and that's a Hall of Fame number.
It is, you know, hey baseball, hey man smoking, no doubt,
I gotta get you out of here.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
I know you gotta go.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
H my face.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
My best dish is I grill an amazing ribby my
own season.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
I do my own.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Really, it's fire.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Don't even worry about it. Fire, fire, don't worry, ab
I gotta have it. I gotta have it, fire gotta.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
What is the best disc that Vince will Fork does,
whether it's on the barbecue pit or.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Cooking my go to his sport ribs baby smoking.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
I love that I'm smoking. Support reps. Okay, low and slow,
low and slow baby, bringing.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
That low and slow.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
We gotta have itta bringing a heat.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
I appreciate you man, Thank you guys.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
I really appreciate you guys.
Speaker 6 (30:08):
It's been it's a blessing to be up here amongst
you guys and having a good time.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
So I really appreciate this time.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
And thank y'all for not loving to be the only
one with my headphones because I can't hear anything.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Appreciate it much.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
Appreciate it
Speaker 5 (30:24):
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What's up, everybody. I'm Peanut Tillman and this is the
NFL Player's.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Second Act podcast and with me as always as my
trusty co host, mister Roman Harper. We're at Super Bowl
or Media Row, hanging out, putting on the show.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
I'm excited.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
This is our first day full time at the media
media road day. It's a you know, I always enjoy
just looking out here into the crowd and seeing who
do I like, Who's got the best outfit, on who's
got the biggest entourage. I've not seen a big entourage
yet day, not yet, so I'm looking forward to seeing
who's gonna be the guy or the gal with the
biggest entourage.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
All right, Our next guest is a seven year VET.
He played for Tampa, he played for Detroit. He is
a Super Bowl champ. This is he is the co
founder of Next Legacy Ladies.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Joleman. Please welcome to the pod. Ryan Neie just go yo.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Thank you, appreciate it. Gentlemen. It's good energy in here today.
I mean, you guys are starting it off rid for
you are first guest. I know you set there. I
mean there's a lot of pressure.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
But no, no, you're gonna rocket this thing up and
we're not gonna come back down. All right, We're just
gonna stay up there.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
I'm gonna set the bar.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Then, So what's your favorite part about Super Bowl Week?
Speaker 4 (01:14):
I mean, it's a couple of things. One, it's an
annual reunion, right every year, you think about it, most
industries in the world of business, they have an annual conference,
they have an annual meeting. There's something that brings people back.
This is our annual meeting. This is our annual conference.
And so to see current players, former players, to see executives,
people in the media world, people across the world of sports,
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is always phenomenal to reconnect and catch up with people
you haven't seen since the previous year.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
How much business or work do you think you get
done when you come here, because I know you probably assume, okay,
I want to try and get this, this and this,
But you're an entrepreneur. You do a lot of different
things that are on your resume. So like, how much
work do you get done here?
Speaker 4 (01:53):
I get a lot that get a lot done. I mean,
because work is both art and science. And then the
work that we do obviously they're as a science component
and you've got to spend time digging in the numbers
and evaluating and doing diligence and looking at opportunities, whether
that be a company or a fund. But then there's
the art part, which is the human part. And so
that's the interaction and the ability to have discernment and
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spend time with people and oftentimes figuring out how to
bring value to others. And so this is a great
place to bring value to people, to get to have generals,
talk with generals to help facilitate the appropriate introductions. And
so we spend a lot of time trying to make
sure folks have access to the appropriate people, the right people.
And then behind it, we spend a lot of time educating.
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You guys know this. There is a tremendous amount of
noise out there. Some of it's good, some of it
maybe not so good. We try to cut through the
noise and hopefully give our community, especially the world of athletes,
the opportunity here and learn from the men and women
that are the best, specifically in our backyard, which is
Silicon Valley. And so this is a full week for
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us of activity and bringing great people together.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Fraternities, you're turning very small fraternity you and your dad
both have super Bowls.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yes, father son duo.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
There's not a lot of us. Club.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Do you know the other duo that has one?
Speaker 4 (03:14):
The Long Family. Oh yeah, oh yeah, the Long Family
and the Greasis. So there's three. You know. It's listen.
It's a prestigious club.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
It is.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
That's that's a good club to be a part of.
You know that I knew Bob, I knew Bob and Bryan,
but I forgot about the Longs.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, that one.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Our family is pretty competitive. My dad likes to remind
me he has four and I only have one. You know,
it's just families like I like to say, we have
five as a family, dad, you know, instead of yeah,
separating us.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
You know, I like to community.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Community.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
You gotta have it, you gotta have it all right.
So you know your super Bowl? Talking about your super
Bowl in Tampa Bay. That was a great team and defensively,
that's what every already knew you guys about, right.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Yeah, I mean, if you think about I didn't mean
to cut you off, but I mean you think about
that team. I don't know if I can if I
can name another defense in the NFL in NFL history,
that has four Hall of Famers on that defense that
won Super Bowls. You think about John Lynch and Warren
Sap and Rendez Barber. You think about Derek Brooks, you
think about Simeon.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Simm Is, the one that's out.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
He's out. He just got his number retired. With press
is trying to make a you know, trying to trying
to make a push push for him. I wish he
was so good.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
He was even at Illinois where he came from, like
watching him and.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Sack Master, Yeah, he was, you know, he had the
sack Master quarterback killer on the inside. I mean it
was a dangerous upfront.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
What was it like hanging out with that that defense,
those guys that.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Was a locker room line. Yeah, because I came in
as I came and as my rookie year. OK, so
you come in and you got to you know, you know,
the pecking order really quickly.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
But I will say the level of accountability, the level
of attention to detail, the pursuit of excellent on that team.
The standard, like the standard was the standard, and if
you didn't buy in, you were quickly washed out. And
so it it honestly, it allowed me to play as
long as I did, because I saw what greatness looked like.
I saw the way they practiced, why they walked, the
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way they talked, the way they talked shit, the way
they held each other accountable. I mean, it was incredible,
and they didn't. The amazing part is it was the
first time where no disrespect to our offense. They really
didn't care what our offense did. They felt like the
responsibility was on their defense to win the game, to
score points, to create turnovers. It was that type of
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mentality like, well, we'll just fundamentally win the game on
our own. We don't actually the offense.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Is you know, I mean, we appreciate it that way,
It'll be okay, what I appreciate about that.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
That's how it was in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Now, we didn't have the best offense, but we were
so the team, the city, I think even the organization.
They were just like, no, it's about the defense, and
we didn't really care about what our offense did or
how many We did care how many points that score,
but at the same time we really didn't because we
were trying to win games.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
They could put three on the board. We felt like
you got a chance.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
To exactly if they don't.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
It is.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
It is, but when you're around it, you're just.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
I remember Gruden came in. That was Gruden's first year,
and he challenged the defense not just to get turnovers,
but to score touchdowns. I've never seen a coach challenge
of defense to get touchdowns. And at the end of
that year, I think we set the record for I
don't know, it might have been broken by now for
the number of touchdowns scored by a defense. I mean
that was. Yeah, it was an incredible atmosphere to walk into. Yeah,
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now that locker room. You guys know the locker room.
You know, you got guys like SAP and you know,
there's there's there's. It was dynamic, it was energetic, you know,
you you had to be careful what you said.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Oh it was also before social media were guys like
you just got to understand that that that is a
different element.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
There's no HR departments in locker room. That's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
That's what I said.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
You talk about some of the work you're doing in
next legacy.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
Yeah, so at next leg see currently we are you know,
I started the firm twenty fourteen. Fast forward to where
we are today twenty five people about four billion under management.
We have really four distinct products that we invest out of.
Our flagship product is our fund to fund product. I
learned early on from my father and many other great
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men that have invested in Silicon Valley in the world
of tech for a long time that if you're going
to play in this game, you better play with the
very best. And we're very fortunate at that fund to
invest in iconic venture capital funds and we're able to
put dollars to work with those managers and thankfully they've
been able to generate returns. What's unique about that fund
is all of our investors direct their proceeds the money
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that we returned to them to charitable causes, and so
over the history of our firm, we've given back about
three billion dollars back to nonprofits and foundations and organizations
around the world, and so I'm extremely proud of that.
On top of that, you know, we have I don't know,
one hundred and seventy plus athletes, thirty ish team owners
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across sports. We've been able to be a bridge to
give our community the opportunity to have a seat at
the table in this world of tech, to learn to
connect and engage with people that we think are doing
things at the highest level. And so no dole moments.
It's a full time gig. I eat, sleep, and breathe it.
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I'll drink the kool aid hard. I think the world
of technology is fascinating. It's as competitive as it is
as football was. And if you think about what's going
on with this world of AI right now, I mean,
what we're going to see over the next five years
and all of our lives will be transformational. The fact
that we can put dollars to work in companies that
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are changing the world and changing the trajectory on how
we operate as a society, that's pretty phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Okay, you brought it up, So I just got to
know because you're still a valley You're you know, how
does it make you nervous?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
The technology?
Speaker 4 (09:06):
I think all all all change makes everybody nervous. Okay, good,
And so I think it's like most things we've seen
with step functions of technology shifts throughout the history of technology.
People you'll use that tool for good and then there
are bad actors. Unfortunately, man has shown us that they're
not all wired the same, and so they will use
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that technology and inappropriate ways, and that that makes me nervous.
Me too, but too, But I still carrying. You know,
as we get older, you fight this, but you got
to carry a level of optimism. You got to carry
a level of belief. And the others that are out
there that are going to continue to fight for the good,
that are going to continue to champion doing the right thing,
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that are going to be scared and hold the line
and create standards and accountability. That's what we have to
believe that there are men and women that will stand
up and hopefully there's more of them than less of them.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, So where does that entrepreneur drive come from?
Speaker 4 (10:08):
It's a great question, and it's a question that I
ask a lot of a lot of founders because if
you think about being an athlete or an entrepreneur or
building something you're doing, you're trying to attempt to do
the impossible and make it very possible. Usually there's something
in someone's life that has triggered them a moment, a girlfriend,
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a parent, a life situation that's given them some internal drive.
I think for me it's two things. One, I had
a father that is excellent in all things. The pursuit
to get his approval, the pursuit to win his attention
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to a certain extent from a young age. That's that's
always going to be an underlining drive. And then on
the second part of that is I understand the opportunity
as athletes that we have. We are so privileged. Good
Man upstairs has given us so many opportunities to be
able to be a voice, to be able to be
an ambassador, to be able to speak up for others
that may not have a voice. And so for me,
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my drive to be able to put us in a
position to continue to win beyond in our second act,
in our in our post careers, and that fuels me
every single day. I carry that responsibility so that I
can make sure that others say, oh well there's hey,
there's life after ball. There are other ways to approach
this game and find ways to continue to be champions
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in life. And so the combination of those they get
me out of bed.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
You definitely got that spirit, Like you can tell I
want you to tell me, and I know you're going
to do a great job. Tell me more about the
Ryan Eese Foundation. When did you start it?
Speaker 4 (11:55):
We're celebrating twenty years it's crazy, and as you guys know,
I'm sure you've maybe had your own foundations as athletes,
and it's it's kind of part of like a rite
of passage to face say you have a foundation. I
wasn't that creative with the name, obviously spending a lot
of time clearly.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Original, that's I usually describe it.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
It's original. But I knew, you know, giving back was
something that was really important. My mom's taught me that,
my father showed me that, and a philosophy that I
lived by to this day is a giving hand is
never empty. And so I always found the more that
I gave, the more that I got back. And when
I went to Tampa, I didn't know anybody. I didn't
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really care for the city. At first, I was an
LA guy. I was trying to get adjusted to a
new city. And all of a sudden we went as
Super Bowl and I start spending time in the community,
and all of a sudden, I realized that I really
enjoy and love the community because of what it was
giving to me. And at that time, I realized, you
know what, I need to create an organization that I
think can give back. And truthfully, I didn't know exactly
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what we were gonna do. I just wanted to make
a den, and so we were giving away cars. We
were helping moms, we were helping dads, we were having breakfasts,
we were having lunches, we were doing all kinds of stuff,
and people like, man, you guys do amazing work, but
I don't know what you do. And so at that
point I realized that there are amazing organizations that are
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trying to eradicate homelessness, that are trying to cure cancer,
that are trying to find ways to help those in need.
I wasn't gonna I didn't either recreate the WHELL. But
what I realized is those organizations have board members, volunteers, sponsors, donors,
and men and women that are helping those organizations succeed.
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And I felt at that time that young people and
I still think it is today, were starting to be
indoctrinated with messages about taking care of self, and if
we didn't start to teach them about the power of giving,
about thinking about others, about finding ways to make a
different diference, that those organizations that were doing amazing work
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would loser volunteers, would lose board members, and would lose
support down the road, and so I wrote and created
a curriculum that teaches young high school juniors and seniors
the principles of the power of giving. And through that curriculum,
it helps them understand how to be more courageous as
a servant leader, to find ways to look at others
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and see needs and step up. And so you know,
now twenty years later, that program and that curriculum is
in seventeen schools in the Tampa Bay Area. We'll launch
programming here in the Bay Area in San Francisco next
school season, which is an exciting, exciting to be in
two cities. So really proud of the work that we're
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doing there. And what's amazing is we start with one question.
I think sometimes it's you know you guys, get back
to the basics, the fundamentals. Do something that's very simple,
and then build from there. When's the last time you
asked a family member or friend how can I help you?
And then hopefully our students learn that question, are able
at the end of the program to say I asked
that question on a regular basis, because if we can
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do that, I think lives can be changed.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
So I have a cold tub in my little basement. Yeah,
I don't use it all the time, but I need
to use it more.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Okay, tell me this love you have for taking coal showers.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Oh, man, took one this morning. I love it. I mean,
it's part of it's this, it's mental Okay, you know,
part of what I've learned. Where I feel alive in
life is when i'm at the extremes. Yeah, whether you're
you know, working out and you're in that moment where
you actually are doing a rep to failure, or when
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you're in a moment where you're in a cold tub
and in your mind, every ounce of you, every selling
your body is telling you, I need to get out
of this. How can I calm myself? I feel alive
in those moments? Yeah, I've all find it. I find it.
It's therapy. And so the cold showers routine for me,
it wakes me up. It's a nice way to uh
get up and start the day and after.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Is it like a long cold shower? Is it just
like a quick stays.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Yeah, that's a good question. And actually a cold shower
standing like you take a cold shower in New York
this time of year, so that water is a little
different than the West Coast, Like the temperature is a
little different, but it stays on cold. I take it
the whole time. It's a cold shower, so it's like
a normal shower. It's just cold the whole time.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Okay, you know, Peanut, I gotta be honest. I think
that's the first one we've had, like cold shower. It's fine,
Like I take cold showers after a hot sonner, but
like that's it.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yeah, I gotta yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
I'm not a cold guy. You not a cold guy?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Got it all?
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Did you do cold tubs? No?
Speaker 1 (16:46):
I did?
Speaker 4 (16:47):
When you played you didn't do? Oh I did you
still do it?
Speaker 5 (16:52):
No? I did?
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Like contrast, Oh man, I love it all the.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Hate it still hate it.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Not that guy.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
You could have got like one more years out of it.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
It's fine.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
I'm good.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
You weren't trying to do nothing extra anyway.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
I'm good.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
He was only worried about the weight room.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
I did.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I was gonna do this.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Did you lift on Saturday before the game? No? Friday?
See you know Joey Galloway. Galloway was. He loved the
way Galloway would work out, like he might get a
couple of squats in like game day. I mean the
guy it was, it was. It was incredible. My fact
check it.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
But look, I just know I gave up a touchdown
on him very early on in my career.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
He just did give that thing.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Was like, okay, I know I got to get my.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
He had that sneaky speed. He always just was once
one step faster than the fastest guy.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
All the time.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
That's how he played.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
It was.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
It was incredible.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Ron. We appreciate you coming on the pop.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Yeah, thank you, guys. I appreciate the work you're doing
and the stories you're telling. I mean, these are important stories,
not just for your audience, but for all of the
athletes that are out there. So I'm glad that you
guys are doing this. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Appreciate you, no doubt. Man. We'll finished talking about that
other stuff too.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Yes, after the past.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Our next guest is a two time Super Bowl champion,
A barbecue savant, savant savant like I don't think I've
ever even said that, ladies, Whiman please welcome to the pot.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Viz Wolf.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
What's going on? Guys? Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Where does that come from?
Speaker 6 (18:29):
You know, I grew I grew up my father was
a big barbecue guy. You know, my mom was a cook,
my grandma was a cook, and my great was cooked.
So I grew up around nothing but great cooks. But
my dad was the barbecue guy. And you know, I
just started my barbecue sauce. Now I gotta have it.
Gh I forgot to have it because of my father,
(18:50):
because growing up, he used to say, you know, I
need this, go, I gotta have it. Go, get in
the onion. I gotta have it.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
He always got to have it, right. I like it.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
And as I got, as I got into the NFL,
you know, we have got to have it situations. So
when I heard bills like hey, and it's got to
have a situation, I'm like, dang, that's my daddy. I
holy smoke. So when he said it, it just brought
me back to a childhood with barbecue. And that's why
I came out with my barbecue sauce. Got to have it.
(19:20):
But my barbecue comes from my father, my upbringing, and
that's what we did, you know, every week every weekend
that's were grilling. You know, we're grilling. And it's stuck
to me and I just try to perfect it. Now
at this point in my life, so everything's going good.
I'm happy with it. But I'm a foodie. I'm a foodie.
I take the barbecue from my father, and I take
(19:43):
the baking and the dishes on the on the stove
from my mom and my grandmother and that side of
the family. So I'm all in one. It's not just
a barbecue. Now. I still get it. I still get it.
Don't get it twisted.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Now I will get it twisted.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
So did you realize that today I want to show
you something, Thomas, this is tenth year?
Speaker 5 (20:08):
Oh yeah, really?
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (20:12):
On the body that boy sexy, big sex, big sexy.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
That boy.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
I mean he not big no more, but he literally
how is wow? Ten years when I tell you that,
what are you thinking? I mean, first of all, look
at that stride.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
Man, look at I'm an athlete now that's always be an athlete.
You know when I did that, they came to me
and I didn't hesitate because I love myself. I love
when I was that mean, that was three sixty. I
love myself. I always. My brother can tell you I
used to always take my shirt off growing up. I'm
a big boy. I don't care big Luther and right,
(20:46):
the big look not the little big and I was
so I was always proud of myself because I just
looked at myself as a little guy when I just
loved myself. So when they came to me to do it,
I'm like, absolutely, let's make it happen. And all three
of you it was everything.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
It was.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
It was positive and it was and I'm like, listen, man,
I don't have anything to hide.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
You know, this is who I am. This is how
I operate. In ten years.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Yes, boss, it's crazy because it kind of started when
you went with the Texans.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yes, you were on the end of the over my
overalls over everybody. Yeah hard, yes, and what really jumped
it off?
Speaker 5 (21:23):
Man?
Speaker 6 (21:23):
And like, but I think when I got you know,
in New England, I had the same personality, but you know,
we in the code and it was different. But when
I went down south in Houston, now you can really
I can really be who I am. You could see
my personality and this is how you gotta understand. I have.
I had one hundred acre ranch and I that's how
I used to dressed on my ranch. I put my
overalls on and I go to work. If I'm bailing
(21:45):
hay or the cows, that's how I used to Oh,
I'm fishing and cooking.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
That's how it worked.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
And I just thought, let me let me show Houston
who I am.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
And when I came in with that, and I swear
to this day, people stopped me. To this day, they
always want the overalls, they always wants and it was
so organic and natural.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
We're gonna take a short break and we'll be back
in the MIDI.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
I love the hat, I love the shirt. My dad
was in the Army. I've been in Iraq, I've been overseas.
I've done been to Germany, Japan, Kuwait. I've done so
many US SOL tours. Yes, they're awesome. Talk to me
about what you're doing with us.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
You know, my father is a Vietnam bat, my father
in law was a Vietnam vet. And my wife, she's
a brat, you know, military brat and military was always
close to me. For some reason, I always threw myself
to these guys and throughout my whole life, throughout my career,
(22:51):
having be a militant, being his background military, so we
used to be surrounded by military. So when the USO
came aboard and was like, hey, do you want to come,
you know, go with us and hang out with the
troops overseas.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
I'm like, hell, yeah, let's do it, you know.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
And in three years we've be being in eleven countries Africa.
We was in Kuwait, Yeah, did Sicily, Djibouti, Jordan still to.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Go to Jibuti, you know, Jordan. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
So that's what we just did this past December. And
when I tell you, it's like to look on their faces. Wheah,
people come visit and see them and just talk with them.
A lot of football fans love football, you know, especially
with New England in the past two decades. So I
have a lot of Patriots fans and I'm like, listen,
you guys are the true Patriots, like you are the heroes.
(23:39):
We are here for you. And I think the USO
do a real good job of trying to bridge that
gap for guys that's that's out and haven't seen family
in years, right, you know, eighteen nineteen, twenty years old
away from family to get homesick, right, And that's what
the USO is all about. Those guys like that, whatever
you need, they try to make it, try to lighten
(23:59):
their low and just being able to sow them and understand, like, hey,
we love and respect and support everything you stand for
for us as Americans, because you guys look at me
as this great football player, this, that and the other.
I'm like, but if it wasn't for what you do,
it wouldn't be possible for us to do and give
you guys this soul. Always, we always want to make
(24:22):
sure and have them understand this isn't about us, but
the freedom that you guys, the daily sacrifices that you
guys make daily for us and your families, Like it
doesn't go unnoticed, and sometimes it can get lost in
the shuffle right when you when you deploy it and
you're away from people for years and you really don't
(24:43):
see nobody but the same people that you you know,
you hanging and banging with your war buddies or your
new family and the military, and all all of a sudden,
you know you have these celebrities coming and come hang
out with you, just to spend an hour with them.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
It goes a long way.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
And the one thing that touch my heart the most
is when I come back and I get emails from
the family members, the mothers, the fathers, the sisters, the husbands,
the wives just telling me how much they enjoyed because
their brother over there, they took a picture and what
(25:19):
you did for them, it goes a long way. And
that's the reason we do it, right, to show them
how much we love and respect them. And that's what
always gives me kind of goosebumps because man, I can
be all the way and kuwait and here all of
a sudden, I can check my phone and Instagram and
I have a message from one of the soldiers that
we exchanged in the staying country. That's what it's all about,
(25:41):
just being able to give them that camaraderie. And you
know part of sports, camaraderie is huge, right, That's what
it is.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Right.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
So when you hanging and banging with those with your
fellow teammates, your soldiers and troops, you want to make
sure you have that camaraderie. And so that's what we
give them. We give them that sense of piece, we
give them that support, that love, and we just showed
them this how much we love them.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
Man, appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
I got I got one. I got a question for you.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
So everybody always you know, go back to Super Bowls
forty nine, everybody.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Always talks about the interception.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
But I want to know what you were thinking, Vince
when you playing defense and all of a sudden, Marshawn
runs the ball all the way down to the one
yard line, Like, what's going through your mind?
Speaker 5 (26:23):
Now?
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I know gotta have it.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
I gotta have it. Baby. That was a guy. I
have a situation. You understand that. Hey, we got it now, right?
Speaker 6 (26:31):
So me, I'm sitting here saying, many to run this boy,
because my mindset is it's the best best back in
the game on the one yard line. I'm going to
pound him. If I'm the coach, I'm pounding this. I
don't care what you put in front of him. I'm
pounding them. So I'm thinking run all day, all day,
I'm thinking run in when they put yeah, when they
put it in the air, I'm like, man, that was bold.
(26:52):
But at the same time, I get it. But yeah,
with a back like that, Yeah, I don't even care
if I had Marshall on a not on the one
yard line. Man, whoever back there getting all my grandma
could be back there.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
I'm a line up one yard behind me and gotta
have it.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
Then you don't get too far back there, No, you
can't get I need you right here and I'm to
do this or I'm sneaking howl.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
But I'm not an offensive minded guy. Understand offense.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
But it's stupid to me when you go get line
up and shotgun on the one yard line, Like I
still want to understand that right under Like like you
line it coached themselves and it cost them, and it
cost it cost them, it cast them.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
How did you treat super Bowl Week?
Speaker 2 (27:42):
I tried to treat you know, the two times we
came here, I've been to Super Bowls.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
I treated it like a normal game week. Pretty successful
for me.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
What was your same thing?
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Same thing?
Speaker 6 (27:50):
Like I never my whole career. I never got too high,
never too low. Any game I played Super Bowl, it
was just the same thing. You know, you have family
to come in and allocated some time to family, but hey,
when it's time to work, I'm working. I'll see you
guys after the game. And it was no different. You know,
game week were here for a reason. Business, no business,
that's just what it is.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
We got. We play this game to get here.
Speaker 6 (28:13):
So I'm not gonna let one week affect the outcome
of this game and me going to do something stupid
or nothing or doing something that I normally don't do.
I'm just not gonna do that. I'm gonna stay locked in.
I'm gonna treat it normal. And I think Bill did
a real good job of us too, just explaining to
like the new guys, like, Okay, now you know, instead
of having thirteen minutes it green in the game, you
(28:33):
got twenty minutes, right, So to warm up, you have
to do things different, okay.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Instead of have time being X amount of time, it's
this time.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
So don't you know, don't do nothing crazy relaxed, because
we have guys that go in there and get sick
and anxiety and throwing up, and it's like, hey, man,
like we told you this. You know the excitement it
gets to them. But I was just one of those
guys were like, nah, I'm gonna keep it simple, you
know what I mean, and just approach it like I
(29:00):
approach every game, and being a leader, just being walking
around and making sure your teammates okay, and just lighting
the move to get their anxiety levels down to just
telling jokes and listening to music, calm music, just everything
I could do to kind of settle my team and
my teammates who I know needed it. I did it,
and it worked well for us. I mean I won
(29:20):
two lost to I've been in for so I'm batt
in fifty percent and that's a Hall of Fame number.
It is, you know, hey baseball, hey man smoking, no doubt,
I gotta get you out of here.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
I know you gotta go.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
H my face.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
My best dish is I grill an amazing ribby my
own season.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
I do my own.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Really, it's fire.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Don't even worry about it. Fire, fire, don't worry, ab
I gotta have it. I gotta have it, fire gotta.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
What is the best disc that Vince will Fork does,
whether it's on the barbecue pit or.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Cooking my go to his sport ribs baby smoking.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
I love that I'm smoking. Support reps. Okay, low and slow,
low and slow baby, bringing.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
That low and slow.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
We gotta have itta bringing a heat.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
I appreciate you man, Thank you guys.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
I really appreciate you guys.
Speaker 6 (30:08):
It's been it's a blessing to be up here amongst
you guys and having a good time.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
So I really appreciate this time.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
And thank y'all for not loving to be the only
one with my headphones because I can't hear anything.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Appreciate it much.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
Appreciate it
Speaker 5 (30:24):
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