November 11, 2025 • 41 mins
Fred woke up in extreme pain and has no idea how he got hurt and Paulina says it's because he's getting old! And a woman is suing her ex-boyfriend for dumping her and wasting her childbearing years.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (01:06):
Joe Exotic says, all the guys are listening to there's
one specific song.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
It's a female. She just dropped it. And I gotta
tell you what they're listening to, Oprah in jail. What
is the I know Kaylin's it's it was putting on
leather pants, I think. But what is the the dumbest way,
most insane way, most unexplainable way that you've injured yourself?
Because I woke up this morning in excruciating pain with
it back. My back is messed up again. How could
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this be? I did nothing. I did nothing like I
want to. I want to tell you a story about
how I saved a kitten from the river or I, uh,
you know, something like like something good like I don't know.
An old lady was slipping on the ice and I
I risked my life. I jumped, you know, so she
fell on top of me. And I mean, I wanted
(01:52):
to be this amazing story, but I don't have one.
I simply woke up feeling this way, really like I
can barely walk, Like how does this happen? Aside from
getting well? I know, sorry, I don't want to say it.
We did. You had no problem saying it. You didn't
want to say it, but you had no problem saying.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I'm not the same person I was five years ago.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Ten, I am really falling apart. That was really hard
for her to say. If you couldn't tell it just
flew right out. It was hard. You said you Oh,
that's what she said. No, you sound great. Oh, here
we go, yeah, here we go.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Here.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
She just called me old him two minutes. I mean,
that's that is the answer. But like, I didn't need
to hear it. I didn't need you to tell me
that you are great. But I'm not great though, which
is the problem. I'm not great like any any slight movement,
and I just feel like I'm going to break in half,
and not in a good way, not in the kind
of way that you hope for. In the weekend, Jason,
(02:47):
no things done. Yeah, okay, well nobody.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Oh I fell off of I tried jumping off of
a pier onto my inflatable unicorn and landed on the
bottom of the lake and hurt my knees.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
All right, and now we're having surgery. Yeah, if insurance
will ever approve it.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
Yeah, yeah, I know this that was another knee. The
need that I have to have surgery on was just
from walking here.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
That's kind of what I was looking for. So you
were just walking and now you have to have me
reconstructive surgery.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Turm my little moniscus. They're like, oh, were you like
doing anything, you know, exerting yourself. I was like, does
it look like I'm athletic? Like, no, I wasn't running
a half marathon.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I was walking. Well, what's wrong with the other knee? Nothing.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
I just had to get a shot and do some
therapy and it's good. So that needs that needs golden
kay the other one?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
You know? My knees, my knees right, Well, I don't know.
I really wish I could explain to you, well I
feel this way, but I I really can't. But I slept,
I slept the wrong way. I slept in a ball,
I slept on the wrong side. I don't know. Maybe
someone came in the night and maybe they were fun activities.
(03:55):
I just don't remember them. I didn't even have a
dream about fun activities that would have led to me
feeling this way.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
When did this this pain started last night or did
it start it started weekend?
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Because you were lit a Friday. I was lit because
at the Tangent Live, every single person bought me a drink,
every single person in attendance. I mean you just laughed.
I mean you you, you left you, you you put
me in the line of fire. You made me deal
with it.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
When I left, you were on top of the bar
doing splits. I said, I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
It might be that could explain. That's probably it. That
could actually that makes a lot of sense now. But no,
it didn't start until last night, and then it was
just it's just progressively worse. Yeah, I don't know. I
could do splits, but I can do them when I'm
at the Tangent Live. Yeah, you were. You've never seen
you so happy. I don't know if it was just
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I don't know if it was happy.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
You were drunk.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
They got us drunk. Okay, it's fine, Yeah, yeah, everyone
else left. You left us to the animals together, but
you no use state. I'm looking at Kikia, I'm looking
at at Paulina. You guys just knew you left. You
threw us to the animals. We didn't see a chance.
I didn't, so we did a live tangent for a
(05:10):
certain section, for a certain region of our listening audience
who could attend. Maybe we'll just start doing it around
the country so that various people can see this. But
our tangent to the warm area. The tangent is our
Offare Uncentered Podcast. Oh, don't you worry. I gotta go
to West Palm Beach around February for my quality assurance check.
I do. No, I always, I always go to West
Palm Beach in February for a couple of weeks. I
got to make sure that everything is running properly. I
(05:34):
have to. It's my job, is the host of the
show quality control. But I you know, I'm not available
in August. No, I got other places to go in August,
like Salt Lake City. It's much nicer there. So we
did our Offare Uncentered Podcast? Did it live? In fact,
that's up on the iHeart radio efforts going up so
you can hear it. Uh that that particular episode, I
(05:54):
guess because we've got hundreds up there already. It's anything
that if you haven't heard it before, it's anything that
we really sort of like get to a certain point
on our show here on the radio where we probably
shouldn't say anything more. Believe it or not, we do
have some limits and then we go and do it there.
So we did the live Tangent and several hundred people
showed up and that was amazing. And then at the
end of it, we walk out and I didn't get
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within five feet of the backstage door for two hours.
And I'm very grateful that that many people lined up.
They wanted to meet us, take pictures, they wanted to
but then everyone wanted to do a drink, doing a
shot or have a drink. They wanted to do a drink.
I did, and I probably did twenty because I just
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stood there and then people just kept handing me. They
could have been anything. There could have been anything in there,
and I just kept drinking it. Yeah. When I heard
that you shut that place down, they locked the door
behind me like they were like, we gotta leave, dude,
Like that everyone owned the place left. It was the janitors.
They were cleaning it, like, sure, you need to go home.
We didn't go home. We went to another bar. Yeah
we did. Why was I shocked about you? Because well, yeah,
(06:57):
in shocked about me? Well, no, like Paulina, I'm a
man of the people. Okay, I'm a man of the people,
and those were my people, right, they wanted to hang out.
You're right, You're right. And and you know, there's always
a story that the propositions that I was offered the Yeah,
(07:18):
I mean, it's it's amazing. So I'm so grateful for
you people that listen to this thing. You really are
a special group. And I wouldn't have it any other way.
And I'll say that that being said, that has nothing
to do with what my back feels this way. I
don't know. I got aj saying, rotate your mattress, I mean,
or I can just go to the other side of
the mattress because no one sleeps on that side. Yeah,
(07:41):
I have no explanation. Someone said you slept wrong. Yeah,
I guess so, like excruciating pain. I didn't know if
I could. I was doing the thing I had to
lay down to put my socks on, like pants, like
one leg's not coming off the ground. So that was interesting.
I have no idea. I know, if it's nerves, I
don't know if it's on I'm not sure you have
a chirop ye. I'm gonna have to find somebody. We
(08:04):
need to get you home. If you don't want to
work today, you could just say that, okay, we don't
want to work. You also could have told me that
an hour ago when I was in bed very much considering.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
I know had I know. I will gash you up anytime,
like you know what needed lay down.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
That's like my mom. Like when I want to spend
money on something, I call my mom, heyhould I spend
money on this? And she'll always enable me. You apparently,
if it comes to not working at spending money, call me.
But see if I told you when I like I
was it was about five, what time was it? It was
five something with five just after five When I was like,
I don't know, you already would have been halfway here.
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You would then it would have been like a waste
of your time. So I came in anyway.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
Never think about wasting my time, Never worry about that.
You don't ever have to worry about that because I
can turn around.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
The best way has off rail right the other way.
I kidding, I want to be here. I said, you
were lit on? Yes, yeah I was. I was just
standing there. Why are you acting? You're acting like I
put on a full on strip tease, which I saw, Well,
did you enjoy it? I did, me and Lieutenant Steve
(09:17):
we saw you. He's a captain, you know, let's get
it right. Let's let's get our boys rank correct.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
Kept saying, hey, freeing because I couldn't. I didn't realize
what the right title was. So but yeah, you were
lit and you were having a good time, and no
one saved me. No one, no, because you need to
have a good time, you need to lay. It was
not I mean for your back to get messed up, you.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Know, all right, start the show. I guess somebody say
it's getting old. Sucks. I'm reading through all these texts
of people. Yes, you were turned, Yes you're the picture
of Yeah, yeah I was. Yes, it was someone who
sent a picture of us together in the corner, so
that the picture that you sent in that corner. I
didn't leave that corner because it was allowed to for
(10:00):
two hours. Like I couldn't. I couldn't leave. I couldn't
take like two steps. It was shot. It was heroin,
it was cocaine, it was no it was crazy. Man.
We were doing lines up and it was wild. You
missed all this. Imagine if no one came though.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I'm so grateful that you guys gave me the worst
hangover ever.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah, I don't know. I you know, on Saturday I
questioned whether I wouldn't have preferred if no one came.
But it was good.
Speaker 7 (10:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
No, I hadn't been let hungover it a long time.
I was good. I'm sure I was reading here through all.
I broke my foot going down a stair in twenty
twenty two, that's it, huh. In twenty twenty three, I
broke my other ankle going down a hill. Well, I mean,
at least stairs are kind of dangerous. They really are.
We don't talk about that enough about how dangerous stairs are. Right,
(10:45):
I'd be one wrong step and then boom, You're on
the floor and you're just tumbling. That's it. But at
least at least there was a stair involved. Like there
wasn't even a stair involved in this, Like this just happened.
I have no excuse, I have no explanation. I don't
know what to tell you, But we're gonna We're gonna
do the thing. I guess how many how many add
(11:06):
milk can somebody take? Friends? The biggest stories of the day. Wait,
there's nothing worse for someone who has anxiety than to
be reminded constantly. Oh yeah, you were drunks on whatever night. Yes,
I was in a bar and party, Yes I was,
And I was stirred a lot of alcohol, Yes I was.
Did I do anything illegal? No? Did I do anything
career ending? No? Did I do anything regrettable? No? My friends,
(11:28):
except for Camlin, all left me to the wolves. Yeah
you remember that. It's right. People said they had a
good time though, So thank you, yes, thank you ran
out of it. I thank you guys.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Thank you guys for letting me perform and do my
big one and start my career.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah, live performance. It was something I don't know what
that was. Yeah, yeah, it was something you did. You did.
The people were stunned. The people in the audience today
seem stunned. Were they stared at me and just nothing? Yeah.
I was a little surprised after an hour and some
minutes of us being rowdy with these people and then
(12:07):
all of a sudden they just seemed like perplexed by you.
You finishing the show with one of your original productions.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
We're probably very confused, like, you know, is she for real?
Like is this a bit I don't know what they
thought confused us, and.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
I admitted that I said, I said that at the end.
I said at the end that this was a dare.
We did this to see if she would do it,
and she did do it. I pulled my back putting
my sock on a few weeks ago. Worst pain of
my life. I couldn't walk from move without screaming in pain.
That's basically what I'm talking about. Like, I'm close, I'm close,
I'm close to walking, and every every step I take
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being a scream and not in a good way. I
cracked a rib having sex with my husband. Yeah, that'll
do it for you. Yeah, I think it's sciatica as
what I think it is. But this is old people's stuff.
I don't know what was he doing? Wow, I mean
it was a good night. I mean that's crazy. I
don't know. Then you got to go explain that to
(13:06):
the you know, emergency room or the doctor or whatever,
like what'd you do? But see if I when I
go to the if I go to someone today, if
I find someone who will like fix this somehow. I
don't know, surgically, I don't. I don't know what they're
gonna do. Is there anyone who can fix this surgically today.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
I mean, please with insurance, right, talk about six to
eight months to get approval.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
At this point, I'll just spend cash, like the cash
I don't have. I'm not how much I'll write you
and check just don't catch it for about ninety days.
That god, I don't know. That's terrible. I'm sorry, are
you no? I really am? Yeah? I could, really I
can tell I can? I can. I hear a lot
of sympathy coming from you today.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
Oh, I really am, because they say if you laugh
at somebody when they're in pain, it's gonna happen to you.
And I don't need that that.
Speaker 7 (13:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
I don't know what I'm gonna do. You need a chiropracture,
I need something. I need a physical therapist. I need
a massage therapist. I need some anyone want to come
up here and just with a table and just do it?
Speaker 6 (14:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:07):
I pay my back out pulling up my pants at
the GUYO. Yeah, oh yeah's offense. I'm kind of doctor,
but like you know, at least there were medical professionals around.
I'm serious, Like this morning, I'm like, I don't know
how I'm gonna get my pants on like I do.
(14:28):
I was not sure that we were gonna have pants
on today, and then I was starting to this is like,
it's insane to me. You take I think you take
mobility for Crampton. Yes, you do, because I was like, Okay,
now what do I do if I can't put my
pants up? Well, I can connect from home, Okay, so
I'll sit in my underwear and do the show, I guess,
but I can't put my pants on. Can I even
(14:48):
like put my arms up? The type? I don't know.
This is just not it's not pretty, guys, it's not good.
And no, I don't want a shot to ease the pain.
I don't. I think that's a bad idea. Yeah, that's
how you wind up in the parking lot of a
holiday and express on that attic show intervention. It starts
with one shot to the back and before long your
your family's chasing you around, trying to put you in
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the minivan to go to promises. You know what I mean,
that's so true, that's so true. Right, I'm scared. So
we were not here yesterday, so we have to recap
Jason's NFL picks. Do we know how well he did?
Have we tallied them? No, hold on, just pardon me
for one, okay, live show, but I'll go through the
(15:33):
winners and then I don't know, maybe you can figure
this out. But Broncos won, but I don't think you
picked that correct, even though the game had already been played. Colts, Ravens, Bears, Dolphins, Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Saints, Patriots, Texans, Rams, Chargers,
and then the Eagles won last night. And I have
(15:53):
no idea about the Parsley. We can get back to
you on that, Okay. Yeah, I don't have a tally here. Okay,
we'll figure that out based on what you just said.
And he did not do well. I will have Italian
a moment. The Senates on Monday, it proved a bill
to reopen the government. Yay government, Yay government. Right. I'm
sure there's some people like yay getting paid, like our
air traffic controllers. Shout out to you, guys. The vote
(16:15):
went sixty forty, with nearly all Republicans and eight Democrats
voting for the measure. The deal restores funding for federal
agencies through January thirtieth of twenty twenty six, insurance that
there are no further federal worker layoffs until that date
and back pays furloyd furloyd fur lloyd furload employees. That's
a weird word for me today. I don't know how
many times can I say it. But it doesn't include
(16:37):
the extension of the healthcare subsidy tax credits that the
Democrats had demanded, triggering major party backlash. To build Now
moves to the House of Representatives, where approval is expected
this week before being sent to the President. Some of
the autumns the autumn. I think if you say autumn
instead of fall, because automan fall are are synonymous, right,
it's the same thing, yea. But autumn just seems like
(16:58):
you're fancier if you call it the autumn. Some of
the autumn's coldest weather yet is bearing down on the
continental US, enveloping the eastern two thirds in Arctic air.
This Monday was crazy, affecting millions of people. The National
Weather Service forecasters said the weather could bring record low
temperatures in the US Southeast, including all of Florida, where
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parts of the state were near eighty degrees the day before.
The cold air brought gusty wind and reg flag warnings
for the Great Plains on Monday, and forecasters said that
the Great Lakes and Appalachian or however you'd like to
say it, Appalachian. Do some people say Appalachians. I can't
even say words now, and no offense, Paulina, But I'm
not quite sure that I'm I'm no. Four to eight
(17:42):
inches of snow could fall there, yeah. Cold weather warnings
issued for Ohio, West, Virginia, Kentucky. Freezing temperatures predicted for
a large swath further south from Texas to Oklahoma, Alabama,
and Georgia. The wintry weather, combined with the government shutdown,
contributed to flight to lays across the country, including four
hour wait times at airports like O'Hare in Florida. Forecaster
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said the windshiels could dip to the thirties. You're in Florida, guys, Florida.
You using me in the thirties? Sorry. A United Airlines
flight attendant was busted for being drunk on a San
Francisco to London flight, later found to be ten times
over the legal limit for alcohol for aircrew. The fifty
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six year old veteran admitted chugging vodka to calm down
while working the long haul flight paramedics met the plane
and Heathrow after the crew noticed her slurred speech and
unsteady walk. Test show to blood alcohol level of two
hundred and sixteen mg milligrams. I guess I'm not sure.
The UK aviation limit is twenty milligrams.
Speaker 7 (18:43):
WHOA.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
So she pled guilty to performing an aviation duty well intoxicated,
avoided jail, paid a fine, and then resigned. Her lawyer
said that she had been under emotional strain and deeply
regrets her actions. We've all been there, girl, We've all
been there. I'm there right now. I have a bottle.
It's tequila right there, but it's just a little tiny one.
Oh yeah, I have it. It's a joke. But I
(19:05):
have like a break glass in case of emergency, tequila
bottle right there, which I can't believe it's not broken
and consumed the number of times that I you know,
we've had emergency.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I'm gonna say Jason Brown got seven correct out of
fourteen and only one of the legs of his parsley hits.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Okay, last week, you're you know fifty percent? Yeah, yeah,
what's happened to you? And I'll take fifty percent? Okay? Yeah,
I mean you were an expert. You were, you are
an expert. I don't know what. I don't know what's
going on. I think you've had more successful years in
the past. I'm just not I'm not sure what's happening.
And this is a sweet story. Supporters of the La
Dodgers have donated about thirty thousand dollars to Toronto's Hospital
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for six Children, a tribute inspired by Blue Jays fans
who had earlier donated to Seattle Children's Hospital after their
own playoff loss. The hospital says more than four hundred
Americans contributed, many leaving notes about baseball and even setting
up recurring gifts. Several donors sent fifty one dollars a
nod to Blue Jays fans who wore that number in
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honor of Dodger's pitcher Alex Vesla, who missed the series
following the death of his infant daughter. A donor called
it a classy response to a classy opponent, while Jay's
fan Marcus Kim, who floated the charity, wager, ideas that
the kindness helped ease the sting of defeat sick kids
in the name of the hospital. Officials say the money
(20:24):
will fund new equipment and research. Silver Lining born from
sportsmanship and shared compassion. See it's it's possible to be
kind to the people that you beat in sports. You
don't have You don't have to like throw beer at
them and spit on them. What you know, you don't calan.
I know that's what you do. But you don't have to.
I lad a couch on fire every time or lose. Right,
(20:46):
you have to burn down your own city when you win.
Everybody knows that. Yeah, you have to cause mass havoc
where you live, right exactly, Yeah, cause problems where you
live for yourself, for your own car, Let your own
car and firest do that, or you could also do
something nice like this. It's a National Sunday Day, and
it's Veterans Day today. Shout out to all the veterans.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Caitlin's entertainment report is on The Fresh Show, Simmy Sweeney
is saying she doesn't really care that her movie flapped
at the box office over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Christy, that movie based on real life boxer Christy Martin,
opened in more than two thousand theaters but pulled in
just one point three million, one of the weakest wide
release debuts on record. After headlines were calling it a bomb,
she fired back on Instagram, saying that she was deeply
proud of this movie, adding we don't always make art
for numbers.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
We make it for impact. Management. Every week, No, you guys,
look at those ratings, but it's not about that. It's great.
It's about impact, right, you're looking at it wrong the art. No, well,
I've been telling them every week now for a while.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
She said that Christy was meant to honor a survivor's
story of courage and resilience, not chase ticket sales.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
So she doesn't give up. Hell, but like, what is
she supposed to say?
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Okay, by now you may have heard that miss Kim Kardashian,
it did not pass the bar exam.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
What's even more is she's.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Super mad because four separate psychics assured her that she
would pass the test, and now she's coming for them.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Listen to this.
Speaker 8 (22:16):
I'm just letting you guys know that all of the
psychics that we have met with and that we're obsessed
with are all full of shit. They all collectively, maybe
four of them, have told me I was going to
pass the bar. So they're all full pathological liars don't
believe anything they say.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
I know people that very upset. That's the same here. Otherwise,
I have gone to law school that it takes three
or four times to pass the bar. Yeah, So the
fact that she didn't go to law school and did
this whole thing herself, you know, which is legal in California, somehow,
I mean, I would have been surprised if she had been.
It would have been remarkable if she'd passed the bar
the first time hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
And it's one of the hardest bars to pass because
everybody wants to practice there, so she has more chances.
But it just made me laugh that she's taking all
her anger out on these psychics.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Very funny.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Teddy Swims is the new sexy guy in a campaign
for booking dot com called This Guy Books, where he
leans into the idea that booking a trip for someone romance,
spontaneity is more attractive than just good looks or a
big paycheck. The campaign backs us up with actual data,
saying fifty six percent of women say that their partner
booking a trip is a rousing or as a rousing
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or more than for play. Ninety three percent say taking
the lead on travel plans beats a good physique or salary.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I would have to agree.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
The commercial shows Teddy in a robe channeling ron Burgundy,
like a similar vibe, and he's like, I'm gonna do
the sexiest thing a man can do, taking the reins
and booking a trip for your significant other. As part
of this promo, five couples will win a getaway to
Chicago in December. Meet Teddy enjoy ten thousand dollars in
travel credit, dining VIP events. This offer opens on the
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twenty fifth of this month for just one dollar and
forty three cents. So that's pretty cool and said He
says this campaign is his favorite that he's done to date,
because you know, it's fun. It was fun, and people
are gonna win a trip and have some romance. And lastly,
Hillary Duff dropped a new single called Mature and if
you have not listened to it, she has certainly all
(24:16):
grown up, very mature, So give that a listen if
you have not yet. But I just wanted to point
out that Joe Exotic aka the Tiger King, who is
currently locked up for a murder for higher plot against
you know, Carol Baskin. He wrote in the comments of
Hillary's Instagram and I quote all the guys in here
are listening to it, which Hillary's husband responded, thanks, uncle Joe.
(24:38):
So I just want to let you guys know that
wherever Joe is locked up, all the guys are listening
to the new Hillary Duff single.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
And that is hysterical to me. Sure, yes, should we
listen to some of its? Okay, but I know, okay,
you obviously like it. I've heard parts of it. I've
seen the lyrics. I have not heard it, so I'm
interested to hear what it sounds like. It's taking the listen.
I'm not gonna listen to the whole thing, so don't
be mad at me when I stop.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
She's me of hers first one just a few years
Young news.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Really ask you just gonna be Hillary? Is is? It
just doesn't sound like her. She so is pressed by
a buzzy. She thinks you're deep andnoys your.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Busy.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
She's a sweet she sinks basically a kind of slap
she had is your sent she slap that's slaps? Yes, good,
(26:16):
I played the whole thing in a minute. I don't know.
I haven't decided yet. You had me all worry you like,
I'm like, well, I don't know. I haven't heard the
whole thing yet, but it says that it's Hillary. Child
was saying, I don't know that voice, like I know Hillary,
and I don't know who that was. But that was
because I was like, oh, so they're tricking me. Literally
put that there. Nothing would surprise me more if we
(26:38):
had the wrong song in there, And I'm that's so good.
So a thirty four year old woman is demanding compensation
from her ex boyfriend who's thirty eight, for what she
says is stealing or I guess did steal. He did
steal her child bearing years. This is from Fox and
(27:00):
Fox News. Do don't worry. I think this is it.
You don't have to stop listening for him. Not that
I would have anything to do with anything, but it's like,
as soon as I say Fox, I think people are like,
oh no, Fox Local.
Speaker 9 (27:11):
Every four year old woman is demanding her ex boyfriend
pay compensation, claiming he stole her child bearing years after
nearly a decade together. She says her thirty eight year
old X into things just as she was ready to
start a family. She said she put her career and
her goals on hold believing they'd have kids and now
wants them to cover fertility treatments like egg freezing or IVF.
The story from a New York Post has gone viral,
(27:32):
sparking a debate. Some call it justified, others say it's
absurd to blame an ex Legal experts say her case
wouldn't hold up in court, but it is raising some
questions about love timing and who really pays the price
when relationships in So what do you think?
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Does she have a point? Okay, so this is my
question because this is kind of my demographic, Like I'm
in my I guess mid forties.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
Now.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
I love how they and I say this every time,
but was supplying makeup. I'm sorry, distract to make I'm sorry,
Oh okay, I just didn't want to get away. Should
I look over and there's this mascara and I was, oh, well,
this is very very distracting to me. Is that not
mess scara? No, but I'll put it. What is it?
It's eyebrow?
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Joe?
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Oh yeah, yeah, pass it over here. I got none.
I guess me too. Then I guess I feel now
I feel left out. I need some eyebrow over because
I can't move my arms, so get you somewhere you help.
Every time I say that, management's like, you know, you
shouldn't say how old you are, Like, well, I've been
here for sixteen years, so like, I don't know. I
(28:37):
feel like people can do the math. I wasn't. I
wasn't twelve when I got here, but whatever, So, you know,
mid thirties is sort of it seems to be that
the appropriate age. I think for me. Maybe people would say,
and I think that when I meet people who are
in their mid thirties, if they want to have kids,
they're very understandably, I wouldn't say, well in very states
(29:00):
of eagerness, I'll put it, but I understand why. You know,
it's like people kind of want to know, hey, where's
this going pretty quickly if they want to have kids
and don't have any. And it used to kind of
annoy me, but then I really set back and was like, well, no,
I understand, like you, there's only so much time. And yes,
you can freeze your eggs, there's other things, but like
just generally speaking, and yes, people are going to text me, oh,
(29:22):
well you can have a kid when you're fifty. Yes,
I know. And people are gonna text me, well this
and that. I'm not talking about the exceptions. I'm just
saying generally speaking, you know, early mid thirties or before
people like to have kids, I guess. And so if
you're not sure, then that could be a problem, because
what if you date somebody for two or three years,
four or five years even, and maybe you didn't freeze
(29:44):
your eggs, then you get to a certain point where
you're at an age where it would be more difficult
to have kids safely. And then I mean, whose fault
is that. I don't think you can't blame it on
in this case, the guy. But I also think that
a guy should be thoughtful about the fact that if
that's something that you were absolutely wanting to do, and
and and the dude if he knows in his mind
(30:06):
he absolutely doesn't want to do it, and he's not
telling you that because he doesn't want you to go anywhere.
That's wildly selfish. Now, should I have to pay for
your fertility?
Speaker 7 (30:13):
No?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
But like, let's say that this person brought up over
the course of that relationship, I want I want to
have I I want to freeze my eggs and he's like, Noah, no,
you don't have to do that. Well, that's messed up too,
because like that might be the only way, that might
be one of the only ways that you could have
a natural child, and and maybe oh yeah, I don't
want the expense or I don't want to deal with
(30:35):
the you know, the process, because I know even though
it's the woman who who endures most of that process.
I mean, a guy can help. But it's like as
far as all the different things that come with that,
there's a dude, a dude who says, don't don't freeze
your eggs because you don't want to deal with it
as the ultimate level of selfishness in my opinion. But
I mean, does a guy. Does a man hold any
(30:56):
level of responsibility eight five, five, five, nine one one
three five If he's dating a woman who wants to
have kids in a certain demographic and it's not extremely
vocal or extremely communicative about his intentions, does the guy
hold any responsibility perhaps not financially, but morally or ethically.
(31:17):
You're saying no.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
I almost want to say yes, only because a man
will waste your time if you let him, and I'm
big on that, and I know, yeah, no, that's very true.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
It's very true.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
But if you're a woman and you know you want
kids or you know you want this, I do think,
like in your heart, like you have to decide if
this is something that you're gonna pursue or how long
you're gonna stay in this. You don't have to like
tell the world like you have tail years, but you
can't say, like, I do want children, and like if
that's not something you want or like we can do
it by a certain time, then like then this might
not be for me, this relationship, just because I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
I just feel like already, like I'm a mom where I'm.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Thirty three, I'm a mom of a one and a
half year old, and I personally like don't want children later.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
I only want one. But I also don't want kids
later in life because this is so harder.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
I feel like a tea mom some days and other
days I feel like a nan on because it's just
like it's the hardest, most exhausting thing ever. So for me,
if hobby was like over here, like well, I don't know,
like I'm not gonna let a man anybody waste my time.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yeah, for me, it's more nuanced than just like a
blanket yes or no. However, if I do think of
a dude as like constantly telling you that's what he
wants and that's what the plan is, then yes, the
same way that he would want me to respect.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Him in that relationship, I would demand or.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
I ask for, at least that respect in return of
the second you know you don't want to do this
with me, you know you have to be transparent about it.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Now.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
If a guy is never sure if he wants kids,
then it's on the woman. You're entering that at your
own risk.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
You know what I mean. I agree with that. Interrupt her.
I don't mean to say to you. I hate the
counter argument. You know guys do this well, so do girls.
I hate that argument, but it is true. I mean,
I've been in different types of situations where women are
biding time dealing with things, but they don't want me
to go anywhere. So it's like, yes, this happens. So
people do waste each other's time that, and they do
(33:00):
it in dating, and they do it on the dating apps,
and they do it in all forms relationships marriage otherwise.
So you know, but in this particular case, if a
dude knows that he doesn't want to have kids, or
in this case, apparently he said to her. This guy
to his girlfriend, He tells me he feels at thirty
eight as though he still has a decade of enjoying
(33:21):
his lifestyle and powering through with his career and is
not ready for marriage and children. But he knows that
it's become a priority for me. So he's off. So
he broke up with her as a result of it.
I guess, and now now you know she wants I guess,
compensation or something for this, which I have to be honest,
Based on that quote, it doesn't sound like he misled her.
(33:42):
It just sounds it sounds like she always knew that
and hoped that he would change his mind and hedged
her bets, and now she had a position where it's
going to be a little bit more challenging and she's
mad about it. That's kind of what it sounds like.
I mean, I think if a dude is like, yep,
I want to do it. I want kids, I want
I want kids. I want kids, and then you know,
four or five years later, now I don't want kids.
(34:04):
That's his right, but I think you would have every
right to be really upset about it. Now do you
get financial damages for that? I don't know. I wish
you should, right like you should.
Speaker 6 (34:12):
I feel like a lot of women waste their time
in relationships and men may not understand how important it
is that time window, Like you have your your child
bearing years and you waste them with a guy who
was just leading you on. But it doesn't seem like
this guy was leading her on. It seems like he
was clear about what he does want and what he
doesn't want. And you can't stick around hoping somebody's going
to change their mind.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
That's on you. Well, then you can say, well, guys,
had you know you can. You can be Mick Jagger.
You can have kids until you're eighty years old. You can.
But I suppose the same And here I go flip
in the argument again, which I really don't like that
as an argument tactic. But I mean, I could date
someone for five years and then wind up being five
years older. Then I wanted to be having kids, and
(34:54):
then it turns out we don't have kids and break
up and now I have to start over, which means
a couple more years maybe to meet someone else, and
then get to the point where so now I'm five, six, seven, eight,
ten years older than I wanted to be having kids.
Now I'm a really old dad. I mean, so I
it's not physiologically impossible for a man, but I still
run the risk of it not lining up with how
(35:15):
I wanted my life to be. And I can't sue
for that, you know what I mean? I mean on
each other? Yeah, let's just meet both stop pays in
each other time. I so, fe Eric, what's up? Eric?
Speaker 7 (35:28):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Are we doing?
Speaker 7 (35:29):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Man?
Speaker 1 (35:30):
So what do if a woman dates a guy in
her mid thirties wants to have kids and after years,
you know, he decides, you know what, I don't want kids,
and uh, even if he said he wanted kids previously
and then they break up, I mean, does he have
any kind of moral or ethical or financial obligation? I mean,
I know this is kind of a ridiculous question, but
(35:50):
on the financial front, but like, I mean, is he
responsible in some ways for the position that she finds
herself in late thirties and no kids.
Speaker 7 (36:00):
No?
Speaker 4 (36:00):
I don't think he owed her anything financially, but you
definitely morally, if someone wants kids and you don't, you
definitely should let them know up front. If it's a
situation where the two just split and she feels that
she wasted her time, then it's her choice to stay
(36:22):
in that relationship. She definitely could have frozen her eggs.
I think a woman has the right to do that
without asking a guy. So she still had played a
part in it as well.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Yeah, that's interesting. I guess she very easily could have
just gone ahead with that. And yeah, she didn't need
him to say one way or the other weather she
should or shouldn't do it, unless she was expecting him
to pay for it for some reason. But yeah, I
mean I've dated people who are in the process of
freezing their eggs, who who did before did right after.
We I mean, that's something you don't need me for that,
You don't need my certainly don't need my permission for that.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Either, exactly exactly, so, so he definitely should just go
ahead and do that if you want to. But at
the same time, though, I don't think he owes her
anything financially. But definitely, guys don't hold up women.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Yeah, if you know, if you want to have kids,
just go for it and do it, all right, Eric,
thank you, have a good day. Thank you. Guys, lovely
to I've walked from a lot of early situations that
I never saw developed because it seemed that the she
wanted kids so badly, and I was unsure that I
thought it was unfair, and so it's possible I could
(37:33):
have changed my mind. But again, you know, I'm respectful
of the fact and aware of the fact that it
only would become more difficult depending on your age. So
like I'm holding you up in some ways. Yeah, and
that's not fair to her, No, But is it worth
ending a relationship that could have been I mean, it
was I a little maybe over sensitive to it on
your behalf, or was I a little reactive to it
(37:57):
in some strength? And I'm not saying I'm a hero
by any means, but I just mean, you know, did
I wind up? Did we wind up not pursuing something
that could have been great? And it could have led
to that because I was concerned with with you not
meeting your needs and being resentful to me for it. Hey, Jessica, Yes, Hi,
good morning. Final, say what do you want to say?
Speaker 7 (38:16):
I definitely think that there's some sort of case for
holding them financially responsible. This happened to my sister. She
was with a guy for eleven years, from twenty four
to thirty six, and he just up and left her.
But the whole time they had talked about it, like
she wanted multiple kids. He wasn't really into multiple kids.
(38:37):
But yeah, we'll have at least one kid. Yeah, let's
have kids. She's like, well, she had some health issues.
Maybe I should freeze my eggs, do like that sort
of thing. No, No, well you know we're gonna we'll
get into that. We'll get into that over and over
and over again for years, and then just up and
left her. And here she is now, like thirty seven
(38:58):
years old, trying to start over again. She still wants kids,
but now you have to start over, you have to
find a partner that you trust and like and all
of these things. And now, because of the sulf that
she was, is she going to be able to have
kids in what is now after thirty five considered a
geriatric pregnancy. So it is really a hard situation.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
But it is hard.
Speaker 7 (39:17):
Jess definitely need to take that into consideration because.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Mary, he genuinely was on the fence and didn't want to.
I mean, and I'm not defending him, I don't know him,
but maybe he was genuinely on the fence, didn't want
to lose her, and then you find yourself at a
point of no return, where it's now you look like
a jacka, but like you genuinely. Maybe he really didn't know,
or maybe he hoped that he would come around to
the idea. I think we all take risks in dating
(39:41):
and in relationships and on the dating apps and everything else,
and I think, you know, unfortunately this is a place
that you can find yourself. But I think that the
key is, you know, and I'm not saying your sister
did anything wrong, but maybe she should have just proceeded
with some of these backup plans on her own and
did not and not wait for him to just what
she should or shouldn't do, or you know. It's almost
(40:02):
like creating a backup plan ahead of time by freezing
your eggs, right.
Speaker 7 (40:07):
But some people, I think miscontrue that backup plan as
like disloyalty or you know, or not having faith in
that relationship. And I think that's probably which.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Is not right at all.
Speaker 7 (40:20):
But that's probably what he would have thought, and why
he pressured her not all so much to not do
those things, because then he thought, well, then why are
you making a backup plan for not being with me?
Speaker 1 (40:32):
It's complicated, Jessica, thank you, have a good day.
Speaker 7 (40:35):
Yep, you Cuba.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Multiple what so that you wind up having a kid
going on Maury, You don't know whose kidd it is.
Speaker 6 (40:43):
You know who kidd it is, the one who wanted
to have one, but you probably do. You want to
give it to somebody.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
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What are you working on okay, I will tell you who.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Joe Exotic says, all the guys are listening to there's
one specific song.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
It's a female. She just dropped it. And I gotta
tell you what they're listening to, Oprah in jail. What
is the I know Kaylin's it's it was putting on
leather pants, I think. But what is the the dumbest way,
most insane way, most unexplainable way that you've injured yourself?
Because I woke up this morning in excruciating pain with
it back. My back is messed up again. How could
(01:32):
this be? I did nothing. I did nothing like I
want to. I want to tell you a story about
how I saved a kitten from the river or I, uh,
you know, something like like something good like I don't know.
An old lady was slipping on the ice and I
I risked my life. I jumped, you know, so she
fell on top of me. And I mean, I wanted
(01:52):
to be this amazing story, but I don't have one.
I simply woke up feeling this way, really like I
can barely walk, Like how does this happen? Aside from
getting well? I know, sorry, I don't want to say it.
We did. You had no problem saying it. You didn't
want to say it, but you had no problem saying.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I'm not the same person I was five years ago.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Ten, I am really falling apart. That was really hard
for her to say. If you couldn't tell it just
flew right out. It was hard. You said you Oh,
that's what she said. No, you sound great. Oh, here
we go, yeah, here we go.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Here.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
She just called me old him two minutes. I mean,
that's that is the answer. But like, I didn't need
to hear it. I didn't need you to tell me
that you are great. But I'm not great though, which
is the problem. I'm not great like any any slight movement,
and I just feel like I'm going to break in half,
and not in a good way, not in the kind
of way that you hope for. In the weekend, Jason,
(02:47):
no things done. Yeah, okay, well nobody.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Oh I fell off of I tried jumping off of
a pier onto my inflatable unicorn and landed on the
bottom of the lake and hurt my knees.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
All right, and now we're having surgery. Yeah, if insurance
will ever approve it.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
Yeah, yeah, I know this that was another knee. The
need that I have to have surgery on was just
from walking here.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
That's kind of what I was looking for. So you
were just walking and now you have to have me
reconstructive surgery.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Turm my little moniscus. They're like, oh, were you like
doing anything, you know, exerting yourself. I was like, does
it look like I'm athletic? Like, no, I wasn't running
a half marathon.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I was walking. Well, what's wrong with the other knee? Nothing.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
I just had to get a shot and do some
therapy and it's good. So that needs that needs golden
kay the other one?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
You know? My knees, my knees right, Well, I don't know.
I really wish I could explain to you, well I
feel this way, but I I really can't. But I slept,
I slept the wrong way. I slept in a ball,
I slept on the wrong side. I don't know. Maybe
someone came in the night and maybe they were fun activities.
(03:55):
I just don't remember them. I didn't even have a
dream about fun activities that would have led to me
feeling this way.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
When did this this pain started last night or did
it start it started weekend?
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Because you were lit a Friday. I was lit because
at the Tangent Live, every single person bought me a drink,
every single person in attendance. I mean you just laughed.
I mean you you, you left you, you you put
me in the line of fire. You made me deal
with it.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
When I left, you were on top of the bar
doing splits. I said, I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
It might be that could explain. That's probably it. That
could actually that makes a lot of sense now. But no,
it didn't start until last night, and then it was
just it's just progressively worse. Yeah, I don't know. I
could do splits, but I can do them when I'm
at the Tangent Live. Yeah, you were. You've never seen
you so happy. I don't know if it was just
(04:48):
I don't know if it was happy.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
You were drunk.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
They got us drunk. Okay, it's fine, Yeah, yeah, everyone
else left. You left us to the animals together, but
you no use state. I'm looking at Kikia, I'm looking
at at Paulina. You guys just knew you left. You
threw us to the animals. We didn't see a chance.
I didn't, so we did a live tangent for a
(05:10):
certain section, for a certain region of our listening audience
who could attend. Maybe we'll just start doing it around
the country so that various people can see this. But
our tangent to the warm area. The tangent is our
Offare Uncentered Podcast. Oh, don't you worry. I gotta go
to West Palm Beach around February for my quality assurance check.
I do. No, I always, I always go to West
Palm Beach in February for a couple of weeks. I
got to make sure that everything is running properly. I
(05:34):
have to. It's my job, is the host of the
show quality control. But I you know, I'm not available
in August. No, I got other places to go in August,
like Salt Lake City. It's much nicer there. So we
did our Offare Uncentered Podcast? Did it live? In fact,
that's up on the iHeart radio efforts going up so
you can hear it. Uh that that particular episode, I
(05:54):
guess because we've got hundreds up there already. It's anything
that if you haven't heard it before, it's anything that
we really sort of like get to a certain point
on our show here on the radio where we probably
shouldn't say anything more. Believe it or not, we do
have some limits and then we go and do it there.
So we did the live Tangent and several hundred people
showed up and that was amazing. And then at the
end of it, we walk out and I didn't get
(06:15):
within five feet of the backstage door for two hours.
And I'm very grateful that that many people lined up.
They wanted to meet us, take pictures, they wanted to
but then everyone wanted to do a drink, doing a
shot or have a drink. They wanted to do a drink.
I did, and I probably did twenty because I just
(06:37):
stood there and then people just kept handing me. They
could have been anything. There could have been anything in there,
and I just kept drinking it. Yeah. When I heard
that you shut that place down, they locked the door
behind me like they were like, we gotta leave, dude,
Like that everyone owned the place left. It was the janitors.
They were cleaning it, like, sure, you need to go home.
We didn't go home. We went to another bar. Yeah
we did. Why was I shocked about you? Because well, yeah,
(06:57):
in shocked about me? Well, no, like Paulina, I'm a
man of the people. Okay, I'm a man of the people,
and those were my people, right, they wanted to hang out.
You're right, You're right. And and you know, there's always
a story that the propositions that I was offered the Yeah,
(07:18):
I mean, it's it's amazing. So I'm so grateful for
you people that listen to this thing. You really are
a special group. And I wouldn't have it any other way.
And I'll say that that being said, that has nothing
to do with what my back feels this way. I
don't know. I got aj saying, rotate your mattress, I mean,
or I can just go to the other side of
the mattress because no one sleeps on that side. Yeah,
(07:41):
I have no explanation. Someone said you slept wrong. Yeah,
I guess so, like excruciating pain. I didn't know if
I could. I was doing the thing I had to
lay down to put my socks on, like pants, like
one leg's not coming off the ground. So that was interesting.
I have no idea. I know, if it's nerves, I
don't know if it's on I'm not sure you have
a chirop ye. I'm gonna have to find somebody. We
(08:04):
need to get you home. If you don't want to
work today, you could just say that, okay, we don't
want to work. You also could have told me that
an hour ago when I was in bed very much considering.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
I know had I know. I will gash you up anytime,
like you know what needed lay down.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
That's like my mom. Like when I want to spend
money on something, I call my mom, heyhould I spend
money on this? And she'll always enable me. You apparently,
if it comes to not working at spending money, call me.
But see if I told you when I like I
was it was about five, what time was it? It was
five something with five just after five When I was like,
I don't know, you already would have been halfway here.
(08:45):
You would then it would have been like a waste
of your time. So I came in anyway.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
Never think about wasting my time, Never worry about that.
You don't ever have to worry about that because I
can turn around.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
The best way has off rail right the other way.
I kidding, I want to be here. I said, you
were lit on? Yes, yeah I was. I was just
standing there. Why are you acting? You're acting like I
put on a full on strip tease, which I saw, Well,
did you enjoy it? I did, me and Lieutenant Steve
(09:17):
we saw you. He's a captain, you know, let's get
it right. Let's let's get our boys rank correct.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
Kept saying, hey, freeing because I couldn't. I didn't realize
what the right title was. So but yeah, you were
lit and you were having a good time, and no
one saved me. No one, no, because you need to
have a good time, you need to lay. It was
not I mean for your back to get messed up, you.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Know, all right, start the show. I guess somebody say
it's getting old. Sucks. I'm reading through all these texts
of people. Yes, you were turned, Yes you're the picture
of Yeah, yeah I was. Yes, it was someone who
sent a picture of us together in the corner, so
that the picture that you sent in that corner. I
didn't leave that corner because it was allowed to for
(10:00):
two hours. Like I couldn't. I couldn't leave. I couldn't
take like two steps. It was shot. It was heroin,
it was cocaine, it was no it was crazy. Man.
We were doing lines up and it was wild. You
missed all this. Imagine if no one came though.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I'm so grateful that you guys gave me the worst
hangover ever.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah, I don't know. I you know, on Saturday I
questioned whether I wouldn't have preferred if no one came.
But it was good.
Speaker 7 (10:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
No, I hadn't been let hungover it a long time.
I was good. I'm sure I was reading here through all.
I broke my foot going down a stair in twenty
twenty two, that's it, huh. In twenty twenty three, I
broke my other ankle going down a hill. Well, I mean,
at least stairs are kind of dangerous. They really are.
We don't talk about that enough about how dangerous stairs are. Right,
(10:45):
I'd be one wrong step and then boom, You're on
the floor and you're just tumbling. That's it. But at
least at least there was a stair involved. Like there
wasn't even a stair involved in this, Like this just happened.
I have no excuse, I have no explanation. I don't
know what to tell you, But we're gonna We're gonna
do the thing. I guess how many how many add
(11:06):
milk can somebody take? Friends? The biggest stories of the day. Wait,
there's nothing worse for someone who has anxiety than to
be reminded constantly. Oh yeah, you were drunks on whatever night. Yes,
I was in a bar and party, Yes I was,
And I was stirred a lot of alcohol, Yes I was.
Did I do anything illegal? No? Did I do anything
career ending? No? Did I do anything regrettable? No? My friends,
(11:28):
except for Camlin, all left me to the wolves. Yeah
you remember that. It's right. People said they had a
good time though, So thank you, yes, thank you ran
out of it. I thank you guys.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Thank you guys for letting me perform and do my
big one and start my career.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah, live performance. It was something I don't know what
that was. Yeah, yeah, it was something you did. You did.
The people were stunned. The people in the audience today
seem stunned. Were they stared at me and just nothing? Yeah.
I was a little surprised after an hour and some
minutes of us being rowdy with these people and then
(12:07):
all of a sudden they just seemed like perplexed by you.
You finishing the show with one of your original productions.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
We're probably very confused, like, you know, is she for real?
Like is this a bit I don't know what they
thought confused us, and.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
I admitted that I said, I said that at the end.
I said at the end that this was a dare.
We did this to see if she would do it,
and she did do it. I pulled my back putting
my sock on a few weeks ago. Worst pain of
my life. I couldn't walk from move without screaming in pain.
That's basically what I'm talking about. Like, I'm close, I'm close,
I'm close to walking, and every every step I take
(12:45):
being a scream and not in a good way. I
cracked a rib having sex with my husband. Yeah, that'll
do it for you. Yeah, I think it's sciatica as
what I think it is. But this is old people's stuff.
I don't know what was he doing? Wow, I mean
it was a good night. I mean that's crazy. I
don't know. Then you got to go explain that to
(13:06):
the you know, emergency room or the doctor or whatever,
like what'd you do? But see if I when I
go to the if I go to someone today, if
I find someone who will like fix this somehow. I
don't know, surgically, I don't. I don't know what they're
gonna do. Is there anyone who can fix this surgically today.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
I mean, please with insurance, right, talk about six to
eight months to get approval.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
At this point, I'll just spend cash, like the cash
I don't have. I'm not how much I'll write you
and check just don't catch it for about ninety days.
That god, I don't know. That's terrible. I'm sorry, are
you no? I really am? Yeah? I could, really I
can tell I can? I can. I hear a lot
of sympathy coming from you today.
Speaker 6 (13:44):
Oh, I really am, because they say if you laugh
at somebody when they're in pain, it's gonna happen to you.
And I don't need that that.
Speaker 7 (13:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
I don't know what I'm gonna do. You need a chiropracture,
I need something. I need a physical therapist. I need
a massage therapist. I need some anyone want to come
up here and just with a table and just do it?
Speaker 6 (14:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:07):
I pay my back out pulling up my pants at
the GUYO. Yeah, oh yeah's offense. I'm kind of doctor,
but like you know, at least there were medical professionals around.
I'm serious, Like this morning, I'm like, I don't know
how I'm gonna get my pants on like I do.
(14:28):
I was not sure that we were gonna have pants
on today, and then I was starting to this is like,
it's insane to me. You take I think you take
mobility for Crampton. Yes, you do, because I was like, Okay,
now what do I do if I can't put my
pants up? Well, I can connect from home, Okay, so
I'll sit in my underwear and do the show, I guess,
but I can't put my pants on. Can I even
(14:48):
like put my arms up? The type? I don't know.
This is just not it's not pretty, guys, it's not good.
And no, I don't want a shot to ease the pain.
I don't. I think that's a bad idea. Yeah, that's
how you wind up in the parking lot of a
holiday and express on that attic show intervention. It starts
with one shot to the back and before long your
your family's chasing you around, trying to put you in
(15:10):
the minivan to go to promises. You know what I mean,
that's so true, that's so true. Right, I'm scared. So
we were not here yesterday, so we have to recap
Jason's NFL picks. Do we know how well he did?
Have we tallied them? No, hold on, just pardon me
for one, okay, live show, but I'll go through the
(15:33):
winners and then I don't know, maybe you can figure
this out. But Broncos won, but I don't think you
picked that correct, even though the game had already been played. Colts, Ravens, Bears, Dolphins, Seahawks, Lions, Jets, Saints, Patriots, Texans, Rams, Chargers,
and then the Eagles won last night. And I have
(15:53):
no idea about the Parsley. We can get back to
you on that, Okay. Yeah, I don't have a tally here. Okay,
we'll figure that out based on what you just said.
And he did not do well. I will have Italian
a moment. The Senates on Monday, it proved a bill
to reopen the government. Yay government, Yay government. Right. I'm
sure there's some people like yay getting paid, like our
air traffic controllers. Shout out to you, guys. The vote
(16:15):
went sixty forty, with nearly all Republicans and eight Democrats
voting for the measure. The deal restores funding for federal
agencies through January thirtieth of twenty twenty six, insurance that
there are no further federal worker layoffs until that date
and back pays furloyd furloyd fur lloyd furload employees. That's
a weird word for me today. I don't know how
many times can I say it. But it doesn't include
(16:37):
the extension of the healthcare subsidy tax credits that the
Democrats had demanded, triggering major party backlash. To build Now
moves to the House of Representatives, where approval is expected
this week before being sent to the President. Some of
the autumns the autumn. I think if you say autumn
instead of fall, because automan fall are are synonymous, right,
it's the same thing, yea. But autumn just seems like
(16:58):
you're fancier if you call it the autumn. Some of
the autumn's coldest weather yet is bearing down on the
continental US, enveloping the eastern two thirds in Arctic air.
This Monday was crazy, affecting millions of people. The National
Weather Service forecasters said the weather could bring record low
temperatures in the US Southeast, including all of Florida, where
(17:18):
parts of the state were near eighty degrees the day before.
The cold air brought gusty wind and reg flag warnings
for the Great Plains on Monday, and forecasters said that
the Great Lakes and Appalachian or however you'd like to
say it, Appalachian. Do some people say Appalachians. I can't
even say words now, and no offense, Paulina, But I'm
not quite sure that I'm I'm no. Four to eight
(17:42):
inches of snow could fall there, yeah. Cold weather warnings
issued for Ohio, West, Virginia, Kentucky. Freezing temperatures predicted for
a large swath further south from Texas to Oklahoma, Alabama,
and Georgia. The wintry weather, combined with the government shutdown,
contributed to flight to lays across the country, including four
hour wait times at airports like O'Hare in Florida. Forecaster
(18:04):
said the windshiels could dip to the thirties. You're in Florida, guys, Florida.
You using me in the thirties? Sorry. A United Airlines
flight attendant was busted for being drunk on a San
Francisco to London flight, later found to be ten times
over the legal limit for alcohol for aircrew. The fifty
(18:24):
six year old veteran admitted chugging vodka to calm down
while working the long haul flight paramedics met the plane
and Heathrow after the crew noticed her slurred speech and
unsteady walk. Test show to blood alcohol level of two
hundred and sixteen mg milligrams. I guess I'm not sure.
The UK aviation limit is twenty milligrams.
Speaker 7 (18:43):
WHOA.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
So she pled guilty to performing an aviation duty well intoxicated,
avoided jail, paid a fine, and then resigned. Her lawyer
said that she had been under emotional strain and deeply
regrets her actions. We've all been there, girl, We've all
been there. I'm there right now. I have a bottle.
It's tequila right there, but it's just a little tiny one.
Oh yeah, I have it. It's a joke. But I
(19:05):
have like a break glass in case of emergency, tequila
bottle right there, which I can't believe it's not broken
and consumed the number of times that I you know,
we've had emergency.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I'm gonna say Jason Brown got seven correct out of
fourteen and only one of the legs of his parsley hits.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Okay, last week, you're you know fifty percent? Yeah, yeah,
what's happened to you? And I'll take fifty percent? Okay? Yeah,
I mean you were an expert. You were, you are
an expert. I don't know what. I don't know what's
going on. I think you've had more successful years in
the past. I'm just not I'm not sure what's happening.
And this is a sweet story. Supporters of the La
Dodgers have donated about thirty thousand dollars to Toronto's Hospital
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for six Children, a tribute inspired by Blue Jays fans
who had earlier donated to Seattle Children's Hospital after their
own playoff loss. The hospital says more than four hundred
Americans contributed, many leaving notes about baseball and even setting
up recurring gifts. Several donors sent fifty one dollars a
nod to Blue Jays fans who wore that number in
(20:03):
honor of Dodger's pitcher Alex Vesla, who missed the series
following the death of his infant daughter. A donor called
it a classy response to a classy opponent, while Jay's
fan Marcus Kim, who floated the charity, wager, ideas that
the kindness helped ease the sting of defeat sick kids
in the name of the hospital. Officials say the money
(20:24):
will fund new equipment and research. Silver Lining born from
sportsmanship and shared compassion. See it's it's possible to be
kind to the people that you beat in sports. You
don't have You don't have to like throw beer at
them and spit on them. What you know, you don't calan.
I know that's what you do. But you don't have to.
I lad a couch on fire every time or lose. Right,
(20:46):
you have to burn down your own city when you win.
Everybody knows that. Yeah, you have to cause mass havoc
where you live, right exactly, Yeah, cause problems where you
live for yourself, for your own car, Let your own
car and firest do that, or you could also do
something nice like this. It's a National Sunday Day, and
it's Veterans Day today. Shout out to all the veterans.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Caitlin's entertainment report is on The Fresh Show, Simmy Sweeney
is saying she doesn't really care that her movie flapped
at the box office over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Christy, that movie based on real life boxer Christy Martin,
opened in more than two thousand theaters but pulled in
just one point three million, one of the weakest wide
release debuts on record. After headlines were calling it a bomb,
she fired back on Instagram, saying that she was deeply
proud of this movie, adding we don't always make art
for numbers.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
We make it for impact. Management. Every week, No, you guys,
look at those ratings, but it's not about that. It's great.
It's about impact, right, you're looking at it wrong the art. No, well,
I've been telling them every week now for a while.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
She said that Christy was meant to honor a survivor's
story of courage and resilience, not chase ticket sales.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
So she doesn't give up. Hell, but like, what is
she supposed to say?
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Okay, by now you may have heard that miss Kim Kardashian,
it did not pass the bar exam.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
What's even more is she's.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Super mad because four separate psychics assured her that she
would pass the test, and now she's coming for them.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Listen to this.
Speaker 8 (22:16):
I'm just letting you guys know that all of the
psychics that we have met with and that we're obsessed
with are all full of shit. They all collectively, maybe
four of them, have told me I was going to
pass the bar. So they're all full pathological liars don't
believe anything they say.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
I know people that very upset. That's the same here. Otherwise,
I have gone to law school that it takes three
or four times to pass the bar. Yeah, So the
fact that she didn't go to law school and did
this whole thing herself, you know, which is legal in California, somehow,
I mean, I would have been surprised if she had been.
It would have been remarkable if she'd passed the bar
the first time hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
And it's one of the hardest bars to pass because
everybody wants to practice there, so she has more chances.
But it just made me laugh that she's taking all
her anger out on these psychics.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Very funny.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Teddy Swims is the new sexy guy in a campaign
for booking dot com called This Guy Books, where he
leans into the idea that booking a trip for someone romance,
spontaneity is more attractive than just good looks or a
big paycheck. The campaign backs us up with actual data,
saying fifty six percent of women say that their partner
booking a trip is a rousing or as a rousing
(23:24):
or more than for play. Ninety three percent say taking
the lead on travel plans beats a good physique or salary.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I would have to agree.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
The commercial shows Teddy in a robe channeling ron Burgundy,
like a similar vibe, and he's like, I'm gonna do
the sexiest thing a man can do, taking the reins
and booking a trip for your significant other. As part
of this promo, five couples will win a getaway to
Chicago in December. Meet Teddy enjoy ten thousand dollars in
travel credit, dining VIP events. This offer opens on the
(23:55):
twenty fifth of this month for just one dollar and
forty three cents. So that's pretty cool and said He
says this campaign is his favorite that he's done to date,
because you know, it's fun. It was fun, and people
are gonna win a trip and have some romance. And lastly,
Hillary Duff dropped a new single called Mature and if
you have not listened to it, she has certainly all
(24:16):
grown up, very mature, So give that a listen if
you have not yet. But I just wanted to point
out that Joe Exotic aka the Tiger King, who is
currently locked up for a murder for higher plot against
you know, Carol Baskin. He wrote in the comments of
Hillary's Instagram and I quote all the guys in here
are listening to it, which Hillary's husband responded, thanks, uncle Joe.
(24:38):
So I just want to let you guys know that
wherever Joe is locked up, all the guys are listening
to the new Hillary Duff single.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
And that is hysterical to me. Sure, yes, should we
listen to some of its? Okay, but I know, okay,
you obviously like it. I've heard parts of it. I've
seen the lyrics. I have not heard it, so I'm
interested to hear what it sounds like. It's taking the listen.
I'm not gonna listen to the whole thing, so don't
be mad at me when I stop.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
She's me of hers first one just a few years
Young news.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Really ask you just gonna be Hillary? Is is? It
just doesn't sound like her. She so is pressed by
a buzzy. She thinks you're deep andnoys your.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Busy.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
She's a sweet she sinks basically a kind of slap
she had is your sent she slap that's slaps? Yes, good,
(26:16):
I played the whole thing in a minute. I don't know.
I haven't decided yet. You had me all worry you like,
I'm like, well, I don't know. I haven't heard the
whole thing yet, but it says that it's Hillary. Child
was saying, I don't know that voice, like I know Hillary,
and I don't know who that was. But that was
because I was like, oh, so they're tricking me. Literally
put that there. Nothing would surprise me more if we
(26:38):
had the wrong song in there, And I'm that's so good.
So a thirty four year old woman is demanding compensation
from her ex boyfriend who's thirty eight, for what she
says is stealing or I guess did steal. He did
steal her child bearing years. This is from Fox and
(27:00):
Fox News. Do don't worry. I think this is it.
You don't have to stop listening for him. Not that
I would have anything to do with anything, but it's like,
as soon as I say Fox, I think people are like,
oh no, Fox Local.
Speaker 9 (27:11):
Every four year old woman is demanding her ex boyfriend
pay compensation, claiming he stole her child bearing years after
nearly a decade together. She says her thirty eight year
old X into things just as she was ready to
start a family. She said she put her career and
her goals on hold believing they'd have kids and now
wants them to cover fertility treatments like egg freezing or IVF.
The story from a New York Post has gone viral,
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sparking a debate. Some call it justified, others say it's
absurd to blame an ex Legal experts say her case
wouldn't hold up in court, but it is raising some
questions about love timing and who really pays the price
when relationships in So what do you think?
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Does she have a point? Okay, so this is my
question because this is kind of my demographic, Like I'm
in my I guess mid forties.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
Now.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
I love how they and I say this every time,
but was supplying makeup. I'm sorry, distract to make I'm sorry,
Oh okay, I just didn't want to get away. Should
I look over and there's this mascara and I was, oh, well,
this is very very distracting to me. Is that not
mess scara? No, but I'll put it. What is it?
It's eyebrow?
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Joe?
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Oh yeah, yeah, pass it over here. I got none.
I guess me too. Then I guess I feel now
I feel left out. I need some eyebrow over because
I can't move my arms, so get you somewhere you help.
Every time I say that, management's like, you know, you
shouldn't say how old you are, Like, well, I've been
here for sixteen years, so like, I don't know. I
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feel like people can do the math. I wasn't. I
wasn't twelve when I got here, but whatever, So, you know,
mid thirties is sort of it seems to be that
the appropriate age. I think for me. Maybe people would say,
and I think that when I meet people who are
in their mid thirties, if they want to have kids,
they're very understandably, I wouldn't say, well in very states
(29:00):
of eagerness, I'll put it, but I understand why. You know,
it's like people kind of want to know, hey, where's
this going pretty quickly if they want to have kids
and don't have any. And it used to kind of
annoy me, but then I really set back and was like, well, no,
I understand, like you, there's only so much time. And yes,
you can freeze your eggs, there's other things, but like
just generally speaking, and yes, people are going to text me, oh,
(29:22):
well you can have a kid when you're fifty. Yes,
I know. And people are gonna text me, well this
and that. I'm not talking about the exceptions. I'm just
saying generally speaking, you know, early mid thirties or before
people like to have kids, I guess. And so if
you're not sure, then that could be a problem, because
what if you date somebody for two or three years,
four or five years even, and maybe you didn't freeze
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your eggs, then you get to a certain point where
you're at an age where it would be more difficult
to have kids safely. And then I mean, whose fault
is that. I don't think you can't blame it on
in this case, the guy. But I also think that
a guy should be thoughtful about the fact that if
that's something that you were absolutely wanting to do, and
and and the dude if he knows in his mind
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he absolutely doesn't want to do it, and he's not
telling you that because he doesn't want you to go anywhere.
That's wildly selfish. Now, should I have to pay for
your fertility?
Speaker 7 (30:13):
No?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
But like, let's say that this person brought up over
the course of that relationship, I want I want to
have I I want to freeze my eggs and he's like, Noah, no,
you don't have to do that. Well, that's messed up too,
because like that might be the only way, that might
be one of the only ways that you could have
a natural child, and and maybe oh yeah, I don't
want the expense or I don't want to deal with
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the you know, the process, because I know even though
it's the woman who who endures most of that process.
I mean, a guy can help. But it's like as
far as all the different things that come with that,
there's a dude, a dude who says, don't don't freeze
your eggs because you don't want to deal with it
as the ultimate level of selfishness in my opinion. But
I mean, does a guy. Does a man hold any
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level of responsibility eight five, five, five, nine one one
three five If he's dating a woman who wants to
have kids in a certain demographic and it's not extremely
vocal or extremely communicative about his intentions, does the guy
hold any responsibility perhaps not financially, but morally or ethically.
(31:17):
You're saying no.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
I almost want to say yes, only because a man
will waste your time if you let him, and I'm
big on that, and I know, yeah, no, that's very true.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
It's very true.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
But if you're a woman and you know you want
kids or you know you want this, I do think,
like in your heart, like you have to decide if
this is something that you're gonna pursue or how long
you're gonna stay in this. You don't have to like
tell the world like you have tail years, but you
can't say, like, I do want children, and like if
that's not something you want or like we can do
it by a certain time, then like then this might
not be for me, this relationship, just because I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
I just feel like already, like I'm a mom where I'm.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Thirty three, I'm a mom of a one and a
half year old, and I personally like don't want children later.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
I only want one. But I also don't want kids
later in life because this is so harder.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
I feel like a tea mom some days and other
days I feel like a nan on because it's just
like it's the hardest, most exhausting thing ever. So for me,
if hobby was like over here, like well, I don't know,
like I'm not gonna let a man anybody waste my time.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yeah, for me, it's more nuanced than just like a
blanket yes or no. However, if I do think of
a dude as like constantly telling you that's what he
wants and that's what the plan is, then yes, the
same way that he would want me to respect.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Him in that relationship, I would demand or.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
I ask for, at least that respect in return of
the second you know you don't want to do this
with me, you know you have to be transparent about it.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Now.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
If a guy is never sure if he wants kids,
then it's on the woman. You're entering that at your
own risk.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
You know what I mean. I agree with that. Interrupt her.
I don't mean to say to you. I hate the
counter argument. You know guys do this well, so do girls.
I hate that argument, but it is true. I mean,
I've been in different types of situations where women are
biding time dealing with things, but they don't want me
to go anywhere. So it's like, yes, this happens. So
people do waste each other's time that, and they do
(33:00):
it in dating, and they do it on the dating apps,
and they do it in all forms relationships marriage otherwise.
So you know, but in this particular case, if a
dude knows that he doesn't want to have kids, or
in this case, apparently he said to her. This guy
to his girlfriend, He tells me he feels at thirty
eight as though he still has a decade of enjoying
(33:21):
his lifestyle and powering through with his career and is
not ready for marriage and children. But he knows that
it's become a priority for me. So he's off. So
he broke up with her as a result of it.
I guess, and now now you know she wants I guess,
compensation or something for this, which I have to be honest,
Based on that quote, it doesn't sound like he misled her.
(33:42):
It just sounds it sounds like she always knew that
and hoped that he would change his mind and hedged
her bets, and now she had a position where it's
going to be a little bit more challenging and she's
mad about it. That's kind of what it sounds like.
I mean, I think if a dude is like, yep,
I want to do it. I want kids, I want
I want kids. I want kids, and then you know,
four or five years later, now I don't want kids.
(34:04):
That's his right, but I think you would have every
right to be really upset about it. Now do you
get financial damages for that? I don't know. I wish
you should, right like you should.
Speaker 6 (34:12):
I feel like a lot of women waste their time
in relationships and men may not understand how important it
is that time window, Like you have your your child
bearing years and you waste them with a guy who
was just leading you on. But it doesn't seem like
this guy was leading her on. It seems like he
was clear about what he does want and what he
doesn't want. And you can't stick around hoping somebody's going
to change their mind.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
That's on you. Well, then you can say, well, guys,
had you know you can. You can be Mick Jagger.
You can have kids until you're eighty years old. You can.
But I suppose the same And here I go flip
in the argument again, which I really don't like that
as an argument tactic. But I mean, I could date
someone for five years and then wind up being five
years older. Then I wanted to be having kids, and
(34:54):
then it turns out we don't have kids and break
up and now I have to start over, which means
a couple more years maybe to meet someone else, and
then get to the point where so now I'm five, six, seven, eight,
ten years older than I wanted to be having kids.
Now I'm a really old dad. I mean, so I
it's not physiologically impossible for a man, but I still
run the risk of it not lining up with how
(35:15):
I wanted my life to be. And I can't sue
for that, you know what I mean? I mean on
each other? Yeah, let's just meet both stop pays in
each other time. I so, fe Eric, what's up? Eric?
Speaker 7 (35:28):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Are we doing?
Speaker 7 (35:29):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Man?
Speaker 1 (35:30):
So what do if a woman dates a guy in
her mid thirties wants to have kids and after years,
you know, he decides, you know what, I don't want kids,
and uh, even if he said he wanted kids previously
and then they break up, I mean, does he have
any kind of moral or ethical or financial obligation? I mean,
I know this is kind of a ridiculous question, but
(35:50):
on the financial front, but like, I mean, is he
responsible in some ways for the position that she finds
herself in late thirties and no kids.
Speaker 7 (36:00):
No?
Speaker 4 (36:00):
I don't think he owed her anything financially, but you
definitely morally, if someone wants kids and you don't, you
definitely should let them know up front. If it's a
situation where the two just split and she feels that
she wasted her time, then it's her choice to stay
(36:22):
in that relationship. She definitely could have frozen her eggs.
I think a woman has the right to do that
without asking a guy. So she still had played a
part in it as well.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Yeah, that's interesting. I guess she very easily could have
just gone ahead with that. And yeah, she didn't need
him to say one way or the other weather she
should or shouldn't do it, unless she was expecting him
to pay for it for some reason. But yeah, I
mean I've dated people who are in the process of
freezing their eggs, who who did before did right after.
We I mean, that's something you don't need me for that,
You don't need my certainly don't need my permission for that.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Either, exactly exactly, so, so he definitely should just go
ahead and do that if you want to. But at
the same time, though, I don't think he owes her
anything financially. But definitely, guys don't hold up women.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Yeah, if you know, if you want to have kids,
just go for it and do it, all right, Eric,
thank you, have a good day. Thank you. Guys, lovely
to I've walked from a lot of early situations that
I never saw developed because it seemed that the she
wanted kids so badly, and I was unsure that I
thought it was unfair, and so it's possible I could
(37:33):
have changed my mind. But again, you know, I'm respectful
of the fact and aware of the fact that it
only would become more difficult depending on your age. So
like I'm holding you up in some ways. Yeah, and
that's not fair to her, No, But is it worth
ending a relationship that could have been I mean, it
was I a little maybe over sensitive to it on
your behalf, or was I a little reactive to it
(37:57):
in some strength? And I'm not saying I'm a hero
by any means, but I just mean, you know, did
I wind up? Did we wind up not pursuing something
that could have been great? And it could have led
to that because I was concerned with with you not
meeting your needs and being resentful to me for it. Hey, Jessica, Yes, Hi,
good morning. Final, say what do you want to say?
Speaker 7 (38:16):
I definitely think that there's some sort of case for
holding them financially responsible. This happened to my sister. She
was with a guy for eleven years, from twenty four
to thirty six, and he just up and left her.
But the whole time they had talked about it, like
she wanted multiple kids. He wasn't really into multiple kids.
(38:37):
But yeah, we'll have at least one kid. Yeah, let's
have kids. She's like, well, she had some health issues.
Maybe I should freeze my eggs, do like that sort
of thing. No, No, well you know we're gonna we'll
get into that. We'll get into that over and over
and over again for years, and then just up and
left her. And here she is now, like thirty seven
(38:58):
years old, trying to start over again. She still wants kids,
but now you have to start over, you have to
find a partner that you trust and like and all
of these things. And now, because of the sulf that
she was, is she going to be able to have
kids in what is now after thirty five considered a
geriatric pregnancy. So it is really a hard situation.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
But it is hard.
Speaker 7 (39:17):
Jess definitely need to take that into consideration because.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Mary, he genuinely was on the fence and didn't want to.
I mean, and I'm not defending him, I don't know him,
but maybe he was genuinely on the fence, didn't want
to lose her, and then you find yourself at a
point of no return, where it's now you look like
a jacka, but like you genuinely. Maybe he really didn't know,
or maybe he hoped that he would come around to
the idea. I think we all take risks in dating
(39:41):
and in relationships and on the dating apps and everything else,
and I think, you know, unfortunately this is a place
that you can find yourself. But I think that the
key is, you know, and I'm not saying your sister
did anything wrong, but maybe she should have just proceeded
with some of these backup plans on her own and
did not and not wait for him to just what
she should or shouldn't do, or you know. It's almost
(40:02):
like creating a backup plan ahead of time by freezing
your eggs, right.
Speaker 7 (40:07):
But some people, I think miscontrue that backup plan as
like disloyalty or you know, or not having faith in
that relationship. And I think that's probably which.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Is not right at all.
Speaker 7 (40:20):
But that's probably what he would have thought, and why
he pressured her not all so much to not do
those things, because then he thought, well, then why are
you making a backup plan for not being with me?
Speaker 1 (40:32):
It's complicated, Jessica, thank you, have a good day.
Speaker 7 (40:35):
Yep, you Cuba.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Multiple what so that you wind up having a kid
going on Maury, You don't know whose kidd it is.
Speaker 6 (40:43):
You know who kidd it is, the one who wanted
to have one, but you probably do. You want to
give it to somebody.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
You know what I was about to say here, we
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