January 12, 2026 • 29 mins
Fred finds out that Keke recently discovered football! Plus, a life long friendship is on the rocks after one of them decided to date the other's ex-boyfriend after they broke up.... Judge Keke weighs in!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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You know, I have a hot take. I'm angry at
the Chicago Bears. I'm angry at and they won, and
I'm still angry at them. Maybe I'll get to that
in a minute. It's too much up and down. But
Kiki said that she discovered football this weekend at the
(00:44):
the right page of thirty something, you discovered it? Explain this?
You discovered football this weekend? How I get it?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I finally understand why this is America's what pastimes every
they call it?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yes, No, I think that's baseball.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Well, yeah, you know what I meant.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
I am in though I am finally understanding why for
years people have been running down the field, kicking and chasing.
I never understood this, never was a fan, never understood,
never enjoyed it, never sat down and watched a full
game until this weekend.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
And now I get it. Now I'm in. Now I
want to make chili in hotel. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
It is a new light in my life that I
never ever thought that I would ever be engaging in.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Like who am I? I don't know, I want to
order a jersey like here, Oh my gosh, I am you?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Because like literally, this is the first weekend that he's like, wait,
are we watching the game?
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Like?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Where are we watching the game?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
But are we doing?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Like he.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
He stayed up and watched it.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I fell asleep, Like that is how locked in? He was, like, I'm.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Telling you, I'm dating you just as you are dating me.
That for sure. So you guys get in and the
Bears are good.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I think that's what it is, like the beard something
about this story.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
You know, Yeah, but you live you've lived in in Chicago.
You've lived in Chicago when the Bears were good, So
I didn't know thirteen years ago they were pretty good.
Then we took a while to get good again. But
you know, but but this isn't the first time in
your life that you've lived in a city where the
sports teams were good.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Okay, well, you know what, now I'm here, you know,
and I want to make up for lost time.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
So I'm throwing the super Bowl party.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
We're doing a girl's gonna be a whole thing. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. It's it's the buddy Ball
and we're just gonna have a good time. I am in, y'all.
I am locked in. And I never understood this until
this weekend.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
I don't know what it was. I don't know what got.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Me in it, but it was like they were down
and then I was I was, I was praying, and
then next thing, you know, they were winning, and I
was just like, oh my god, I'm here for the
coach what's his name being?
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah? Yeah, what do you think being.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Discovered like water with fruit in it to flavor it? Like,
I don't understand what's happening right now. Yes, it was great.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yes, water tastes so good with this fruit of it, though,
Like if you ever tried it with like a nice cucumber,
maybe like, you know, throw a couple little berries in
there and something like that. It's delicious.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
You gets hurd of yoga, Like, yes, bro, I am here,
I am here, and now I'm locked in butterly.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Um, that's what I say.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
You know, I'm sure they appreciate it when they're down
and you weren't their fans.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
But now that there's good, yeah, sure?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Would you would you have liked it? Would you be
still saying this this morning if the Bears had lost?
Because in this case we're talking about the Bears game.
I mean the Panthers had a close game? Would you
be did you watch that game? I mean there were
a lot of games, and the Bills had a close game.
Would you Would you feel the same way about any
team or is it just at the team where you live?
She ums to be doing well now all of a sudden, I.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Think it's the Bears. I really do.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I felt I feel like the energy in the city
hasn't been like this ever. I've never felt like the
whole city is watching one thing together and we're all
excited together.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
It just felt that I could feel it in the air.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I don't know, yes, yeah, And then if your team
lose this this weekend. Then is it over? Is this
is this interest over, this new found love that you
have for the America's pastime footballer.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Wait for that heartbreak. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I don't know, but you know what, I'm very hopeful
and I feel like, because Mike the mechanic and I
are now on board, that we are really good luck
charms to this team, and so I think there's no
limit to what the Bears will do now that I'm
locked in.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
So honestly, I think we're going to the super Bowl.
I'm not just being.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
Mechanic Mike and Pope Leo. I think he was working
all the time over time. You can't tell me otherwise, we.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Get a pope from Chicago and all of a sudden,
the Bears are pretty good.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Now do you understand how it works or where they're
running or why?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Or so for the life of me, I kept telling
my brother, I said, why is Caleb william sitting now?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
He needs to get in the game.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, you're right, he should get in the game. We
needed it to be his turn a little more because
when I was talking.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Kids by his turn, I'm like, what you mean his turn?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Like my brother was like, because there's an offense and
a defense, and I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. And
so he explained it to me and I was like, okay,
fair enough.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
But you know, when Caleb got in there, he did
what needed to be done.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
And the other guy, I don't know, it was another
guy that was running and kicking, and I.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Was just like, you know, I'm so proud of him kicking.
There's a running back, you know.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Cayro Santos. If you don't know any other player, know
Cairo happening. I'm so happy for you though. I'm so
happy that you found a new passion.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
It's crazy and I never thought this would be me.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Ever.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I always drag girls because I feel like a lot
of my friends they pretend like they like football because
they want to be around the gay. You know, I
dated a football player, like I still don't understand what.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Was going on. Dated a football play. Did you attend
his game?
Speaker 5 (06:06):
I did? I did?
Speaker 7 (06:07):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
All through high school and college.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
I never as impassioned as you are now, not at all.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I only cheer when his family was cheer because I
didn't know what was going on.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
I really was confused. But now I'm locked in. I'm here.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah, I'm happy for you. I'm happy for you. You
don't look I was gonna save the rant for later.
But like I pop off King, the games are always excited,
I would say mostly exciting this time of year because
they're you know, elimination games. It's the playoffs, so they
lose once they're they're out. So I feel like everyone
plays really hard. You win a few games, you went
up in the Super Bowl, you could win up a champion.
(06:43):
That's good. But specifically though, if you watch the Chicago
Bears game against the Green Bay Packers, you don't have
to be a Bears fan to have watched that game
because it's a big rivalry game and if you know
anything about it, then you know that the Bears. You know,
if you're a Bears fan, you cannot lose to the Packers,
especially in chic you just can't do it. Like it's terrible.
And if we had, I think it would have been
(07:04):
I would have taken anything good about this season and
just everyone would have been mad. And you could tell
that by watching the first Oh, I don't know, eighty
percent of the game, eighty five, maybe ninety percent of
the game because we were losing badly. The Bears were
in this game, and you could see on everyone's faces.
You could see Soldier Field turning like people were angry,
like wait a minute, we got this far and now
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we're gonna get blown out by these guys. And then like,
in the last five minutes of the game, what did
we score in the fourth quarter? We scored like twenty
three points or something and won the game, which is amazing,
and I'm so happy about that because you know, I'm
an adopted Bears fan. I moved to Chicago a long
time ago, and I was kind of homeless. I grew
up in Arizona. Football homeless. I should say I had
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a home, but you know, football homeless. If Cardinals were
just it, you couldn't attach yourself to that. There wasn't
even any like It's not like the Lions that were Caitlyn,
You've been a long suffering Lions fan. But there's like
a long history of generations and Lions fans. I don't
know if there's a long history of generations of Arizona
Cardinals fans. I don't think there are. They weren't even
(08:08):
the Arizona Cardinals. They were the Saint Louis Cardinals at
one point football anyway, whatever the case may be, I
just I get it. I moved here, and I feel
like people were born into this and they love it.
And I lived here when the Bears were good, and
I lived in Chicago when the Bears were bad, and
this town is so much better when sports teams are hitting,
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And wherever you live and whatever your team is, you
got to agree with me. When sports teams are hitting,
everybody is happy. But my problem is we should have
lost that damn game. And then they're they're walking around
with all this swag at the end like, ah, yeah,
we did it, you know, Blank the Packers, the whole thing,
you guys, you put everybody through the worst night. The
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range of emotions were unnecessary. If you can score twenty
three points in one quarter, why are we in this situation? Week?
Stop it? Stop it. Stop it. Like the second half
of the season, we were gonna lose every game and
somehow we wind up winning, which is amazing, but stop it.
And then Caleb Williams standing there at the end like
he's not even tired, like, oh, yeah, you know, we
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probably should have played better, but did it again? Stop it,
stop it. You're so good. Just blow everybody out. Stop it.
I'm mad, I'm watching this game. I could have turned
it off. I think a lot of people did turn
it off and thought that the Chicago Bears had lost,
and they won, but they had to do it all
in the last second. Stop it.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I had a friend who was actually at the game
and he left the stadium and he was on social
media like this sucks.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
I'm so mad at us. And he left the.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Game early and got in the car and then was like, Okay,
I'm sorry, guys, I see we're he was. That was
a funny like story to watch because it was just like,
look how mad you are. Look how quick you turn
on your team. See me, I would never I'm riding
with the Bears win and lose. But he left the stadium.
So yeah, it's just frustrating. And like, you know, some dude,
(10:06):
I saw some video early this morning. I don't remember
who it was because I was hav asleep, but some
kuy in the Packers like, oh, the Bears didn't do anything.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
We just we collapsed. Well that's true. You did. You'd
give up twenty three points in a quarter and you
lost a game that you had handily won. I don't
know that I look at it that way. I mean, yes,
they collapsed, but then the Bears were exceptional. I just
don't get it, like, just be exceptional more, you know,
I mean, like, why are we waiting till the end?
But it's not even like we did it this one time?
(10:33):
Like what was it? Last five six games has been
like this, They're gonna lose again and then all the
miraculously and then they all and then calebly and they
even tired, like bro, you uhoul to be exhausted. It's
like it's too easy. I don't understand. Stop putting us
through this. Fans. I'm like, I love you, and I'm
so happy that this team is winning and it's so
(10:53):
much fun. And I know there are people that you know,
like I said, lifelong Bears fans, multi generation's like and
people are saying that, well, they're called the cardiac Bears.
Seven comeback games, but you're that good? So like why
why are we so bad? And then all of a
sudden so good? I don't get it, Like which one
is it? I think it's I think we're good actually,
(11:15):
and I think that the Bear is gonna be good
for a long time. But like whatever your team is,
if you have every single week, if you have to
live through this, yes, it's exciting, but then like, we're
eventually going to lose a big game this way because
it's not gonna work out this way every single time.
Wait till we play the Seahawks or something, or like,
you know what I mean. We can't do this every time.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Oh no, man, you gotta have faith, you gotta believe.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Man, I'm just frustrated. I'm watching this game. I'm like,
I can't believe this. Man, this is a great season,
and we're gonna lose to the Packers and then everyone's
gonna be mad and like you just what a waste?
And then oh, let's just go ahead, real quick. Score
twenty four just real quick, just a couple of touchdowns,
real quick. Oh good we won? Wow, better play better
next time. I guess I don't know. I can't be
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the only one who's just impassionate about it. Oh it's
twenty five points in the fourth quarter, Sorry, twenty five points.
Twenty five Man, I don't think my heart can handle it,
is what I mean. Like, if you saw my instant stories,
I was like, this is bad and then like two
hours later, that was exceptional. I went from calling my
(12:25):
therapist to drinking for good reasons, not bad reasons like
I normally do. So I don't know, there's no one else.
Your Kiki's over here celebrating, jumping up and down because
you watch something it was truly exceptional, and I'm over
here going I'm tired of seeing this, like just blow her.
They start winning, like play well the whole time, right
(12:47):
from the beginning, right, That's all I'm saying. Quit doing
this to us up front.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
Yes, when you're like at a party two and then
like the vibes like they're going.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
In waves, I don't like that. I want to be
like on a high at all times. So I agree
with you, Fred, I'm gonna ride with you on this one.
I'm sure that's what they want to, you know, make
it happen.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I'm sure they do too, But isn't that someone in
there control. I don't know how you go from being
so average to so exceptional and then just turning it
off and doing it over and over again. That's my problem.
Someone says, stop complaining. You know how many years of
being up until the fourth quarter and then blowing the game?
We had to watch. That's true too. I mean that's
true too. I just if it were if it were
one game, I would say, wow, who we got lucky there.
(13:27):
It's a bit of a theme this season, and I'm
I'm just saying stop it.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Not at all.
Speaker 8 (13:36):
I so understand, like what's happening with you right now?
And I stand with you, my brother, I get it.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Thank you, thank you you. I'm grateful. I mean again
and again, not everyone lives in Chicago, but if you've
lived in a team in a city where your team
was doing exceptionally well, I mean, what ten years ago
the Panthers went to the super Bowl. That was such
an exciting time. Even this weekend in Charlotte where our
show is on. It was exciting because they had exceeded
experts and it was electric like it was awesome. And
(14:03):
I'm happy for that. Wherever, wherever you were, Baseball, whatever
sport it is. I mean, black Hawks have been good,
Cubs have been good in my time living in Chicago, Socks,
I'm sure we'll be good again. It's one of those things.
It's better when your teams are firing. Quit playing with
my emotions. And I know Caitlin knows this. Because because
this is what the Lions they're They're good and good
(14:25):
and good and good until they have to be good
and then they're bad. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (14:28):
Well, I mean we got knocked out right before the
Super Bowl last year, so you can imagine the pain
that I was going through on that walk home.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
I walked home from the bar, like, man, I sat
on a bench like I didn't know.
Speaker 8 (14:38):
I'm not even joking, Like I like truly, like where
do I go from here? I had my Nana's ashes
because I thought we were gonna have this moment and
it was just us on that bench.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
And Kiki just discovered this and she thinks every game
is like this. I wish every game we're not like that.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
I don't know, man, it's a great story, great story.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Oh man. Yeah, anyway, I'm gonna play a song now.
I'm gonna take it. My breathing was getting weird at
the end of that game. I'm like, I do I
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It's Kiki's Court, all right, the honorable Kika Leikue Judge Kiki.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Yes, let's get in the courtroom. The gabble has been hit,
all right. It says, hey, kikey am I wrong for
dating my best friends X after.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
She dumped him.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
My name is Danielle and I've been best friends with
Tiegan since childhood. Teagan started dating Carter in high school
and they were on and off for eight years. However,
last year, out of nowhere, Teagan said she was no
longer attracted to Carter. She dumped him and said she
wanted to experience life. Her exact words were, if he
(16:20):
dates someone else tomorrow, good for him. So Carter took
the break up really hard, and he started reaching out
to me because he felt like I knew them both
really well. I was just being nice and supporting him
until we accidentally slept together.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Okay, after that's very supportive.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
The process that Okay, after that, we realized that we
had real chemistry and we started secretly dating. A few
months later. Now we're expecting a baby. So last week
I finally broke the news to Teagan, and to my surprise,
she lost it on me. She accused me of waiting
years for my turn with him, and I had to
(17:03):
quickly remind her that she dumped him. Now she's telling
everyone that I trapped him and stole her future, and
half of our friends won't talk to me.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Am I wrong stole her future?
Speaker 1 (17:13):
She dumped him?
Speaker 3 (17:14):
She did dump him, she did, however for it. What
are you doing with my ex? Like that should be
off limits?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Girl called one on one like, there are a lot
of people in this world.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
How did you end up with my man? I mean,
well my ex?
Speaker 2 (17:30):
You know, yes, I gave him back to the streets,
but that didn't mean for you to go have a
baby with him.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
She's in the streets and ruddy baby.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Wait what was her quote again? He could date anybody
he wants, No, she said.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
If he dates someone else tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Good for him, But that doesn't mean I want him
to date my best friend.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
She's somebody. Oh no, he's the loyalty in the room here.
Speaker 8 (17:53):
That's absolutely insane, Like that's to call the cops, report
her right online, a smear campaign, cancel her.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Hold on, hold on. I mean, first of all, the
jury is you guys are a jury in the room.
And of course at home made five five, five, nine
one one o three five. I would not like this
at all. But and if it was a very good
close friend of mine, then I guess I would hope
that they could see from my perspective why the relationship
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didn't work out, and maybe that would not be something
they would want to engage in. And and yes, there
is such a thing as loyalty. I get that, But
like you do run the risk when you dump someone
of them meeting someone you know and dating them. I mean,
you don't. Unfortunately, when you break up with someone, you
don't get to control their actions for the rest of
their life. And and yeah, you may have lost a
(18:45):
friend in the deal, but like, I don't know that
anyone actually did anything wrong here.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Fred, I am shocked.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Now, I wouldn't mind you don't have to like it, Kiki.
There's a difference between not liking something someone did and
it being wrong.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
That's true, but you know, if I don't like it
is wrong.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
They've been friends since childhood, so yes, if you if
you end up with the girl that we had science
class with, okay, but my childhood best friend.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
You're dating my ex and we were together.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
For eight years? What are you doing? Like I feel like,
come on, girl, there has to be some type of loyalty.
And now you're having this man's baby, Like what.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
I mean, it's that great?
Speaker 9 (19:29):
She said she wasn't attracted to him anymore, Like what
does it matter? Maybe they're meant to be together and
it started in high school. Like I know there are
exceptions to the rule, but like high school relationships, like
come on, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
When you just don't get to control people once you
break up with them unfortunately you know, I mean yeah,
because it's not ideal, but like you don't get to
say if if you don't want someone anymore and they
want someone that you know, then that's their right. And
and I look, I think if the we're like, well,
we should still be best friends or I don't know
why you have an issue with that. I mean, she
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can have an issue with it, but like, no, no, sir,
how you doing, Sarah, Welcome to the show. Good morning,
Good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Man.
Speaker 10 (20:16):
That's that's a number that's negative. Ain't no way that's
cool like that. That's kind of like a guy called
too no if she was mine, bro, come on it
wet limit. We're not talking no more.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
But listen to your listen to you man, Like like
it's this ownership things like you don't want to be
with someone, why do you care if somebody else does?
Speaker 10 (20:44):
Yeah, but if you my partner, if you my partner,
bro to go behind you, I cannot do that.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
That's Look, I'm a I'm a loyal guy. I Am
not going to go out and date my best friend
you know, ex wife or whatever. But I think it
says something about the friendship, and it might say something
about you if someone chooses your ex over you. Why
are we not flipping this at all? Why are we
(21:12):
not looking at this from the other perspective for one second?
What if? What if this girl was kind of nutty
the whole time, and like it came down to, look,
I'm your friend, but I don't I don't like your
behavior here, and I think he was a decent guy.
And then what if they go off and have a
nice life together. Yes, you lost a friend in the process,
but it's your life, I means true.
Speaker 10 (21:31):
Everybody got their own life to live. I'm not taking
out of this. But at the end of the day,
we played in it shame together, right, no flipping, no turning.
Now we're gonna always go right.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Right, that's right.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah, I hear no, I thank you, sir. Have a
good day. I think. Wow, I get it.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Though it's real personal and I'm believed well.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
And from the other side, I mean, I'll advocate for
the other perspective for just a second. Maybe this person
was not that great of a friend anyway, clearly, you know,
maybe maybe this person was not really your your patna
as as sir would say. And and so you know what,
that person's gone, This person that wasn't all that loyal
to you is gone. Let them have it, Let them, Paulina,
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let them. Hey, mel Robbins, I'm on this one.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
I can't let them because at the end of the day,
like I have history with this person, and then that's
my best friend. There's enough fish in the sea. Okay,
there's enough out there. You don't want to take mine
even though he's not mine no more.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yeah, people are really upset it it it's the idea
of controlling other people that I don't like. It's it.
I mean, I would not like this person that's not yours.
And that's what that person is not my friend, that person,
that person should not be. We should not be as
invested in one another as we are. If they're going
to do if they're going to do that. But I
really don't like the idea that everybody I've ever touched
(22:58):
is off limits to any when I've ever met. I
just I don't I don't like. I don't like the
way that feels.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
This is your childhood best friend, Okay, And first of all,
when we broke up, you shouldn't even be talking to
him anymore after that?
Speaker 3 (23:11):
What is she consoling him for? I hear, I knew,
what the hell all my friends know when they break
up with that man?
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I know, I don't know him. He can't run up
to me in the streets like, no, we're good. I
don't even talk to you after.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Lindsay, how are you doing? Lindsay good? How are you guys, Hi,
what did you want to say? Welcome? Do you take
it away Kiki's court? But this is a situation of
a best friend winding up with an ex that that
was discarded. I think we all agree that, yeah, the
primary friend discarded this person and the best friend wound
up having a kid with him. What do you think?
Speaker 11 (23:43):
I think it's it's not right girl code one on one.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I actually was in the same situation.
Speaker 11 (23:48):
H after I graduated high school and I am no
longer best friends with her.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
I'm sorry, Wow, are they still together? Oh no, No,
it was a fling exactly.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
But I keep coming back tout that's very hurtful. But like,
this is a person that you I guess, let's just
let's say that this person, I mean, so, she's not
that good of a friend to you anyway, and she
wants to be with your ex wal you don't like,
So goodbye to both of them. I guess. I mean,
I'm not saying it doesn't hurt, But what I'm saying
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to you is what is the point in dwelling on
it or harboring any sort of like long term. She's
not going to be in your life anymore either way.
So what difference does it make? Right?
Speaker 11 (24:30):
But it's still hurtful because I was your best friend
and then you're wondering, Okay, that whole time I was
in a relationship with him, was she having feelings for
him that whole time? Or did she find him attractive?
Like then you're wondering all these things, and then all
the trust is just not there anymore. You're just and
that breaks your heart.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I'm not saying it doesn't hurt. But what I'm saying
is do I have a right to control what happens
after I break up with somebody? And what I can
control is whether I want those two people in my
life anymore, and apparently I don't, So that sucks. I
think there's I think there are two things that could
be true here. But thank you so much. Have a
good day, you too, Jessica, or excuse me, Lindsay was good.
(25:09):
But Jessica, we have to talk. Jessica. Hi, Jessica, Hi, Hi.
Speaker 7 (25:13):
I'm Jessica.
Speaker 11 (25:15):
I have very strong feelings.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
About this topic today.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
What do you think?
Speaker 7 (25:21):
Yeah, so I had a best friend who I knew
since I was five years old, and throughout high school
and college she dated three of my boyfriends that I
dated within months four times, so so one of them
was more than once. I kind of disconnected with her.
I was as an adult. I was like, oh, let's
let's be friends again. And then my now husband then
(25:44):
she kissed him on at one point as well too
when I reconnected with her and we are not friends anymore.
So no, I think that that is it's a completely
valid for.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Her, and I'm sure that happened to you. But can
we connect? Can we at least now that your situation
is different from this one, and that it's clearly this
person who you were friends with was going for you,
going for the jugular, I mean repeatedly going after anything
guy you dated. Is there not a possibility that this
person that these two were meant to be together? These
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other two we're not talking about. She's not sloppy seconds
every single time. I mean, that's like, that's some weird
obsession with you kind of stuff. But is it absolutely
possible that in the course of knowing that couple that
they realized that they were better off together. And by
the way, the guy didn't even do it. He got dumped.
It's not like he left her for the other girl.
Speaker 7 (26:36):
I just I think two things can be can be
right at the same time.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Yeah, I agree on that. I think we agree on that.
I think we are on that.
Speaker 7 (26:44):
No, I think more so in my situation was my
friend she just didn't necessarily have the confidence to go
and find anybody that she was that she could date
or anything like that. So I don't know if that
was the same situation. It was just more of a
comfort of eye, know, like I know your boyfriends, so
like I already know them, so when I might as
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well date them.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
You know, goes with that saying thank you, Jessic, have
a great day.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Yeah you two, Fred, thank you.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
A lot of a lot of opinions here, Emily. Emily,
you say everybody's wrong.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
Oh my god, I didn't know that's how poories in
this list. Okay, yeah, so everyone's wrong. Because here's the thing,
you guys are right. That one the girl who broke
up with the first girls, it sounds like she kind
of had moved on already when she did break up
with him, so like, yeah, she doesn't can't control him. However,
in some aspect of girl code, I think that the
friend should have said something before she was pregnant with
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his child, because now she's just saying something because she's
the other friends going to obviously see she's pregnant. So
like I feel like that would have been more respectful,
and probably she probably had such a strong reaction because
she then you know spiral too, well, how long has
this been going on? You know, she obviously knows they've
been keeping secrets in regardless of if you know is
inner life or not, it's still someone you know you
(28:02):
cared about for power long and that hurts knowing that
they're keeping things from you. But yeah, everyone's wrong.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah, no, this isn't I'm not arguing this is great. Again.
My only real issue here is this whole thing where
it's I own I own you. Uh, no one, no
one else can be with that person. I know because
because I said so, she.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
Does not own him. She definitely cannot dictate if they
are together or not. I do think she has the
right to feel hurt. She does not have a right
to dictate they they are break up or they are together.
She or you know, she does not get to have
an opinion on that because she had very much given
him up already.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
I agree with it. I think you're right. You know
what everybody's wrong case closes, everybody recording?
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Can that be my found it? Can I get a
recording of that?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Fread Everybody's wrong case clothes? You're welcome to that copyright.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
You a good day.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Thank you, Hey, I don't say it a whole a
whole lot. You're right.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
I appreciate I thank you all so much.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Have a good one. She really wanted to soak that
one in.
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You know, I have a hot take. I'm angry at
the Chicago Bears. I'm angry at and they won, and
I'm still angry at them. Maybe I'll get to that
in a minute. It's too much up and down. But
Kiki said that she discovered football this weekend at the
(00:44):
the right page of thirty something, you discovered it? Explain this?
You discovered football this weekend? How I get it?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I finally understand why this is America's what pastimes every
they call it?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yes, No, I think that's baseball.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Well, yeah, you know what I meant.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
I am in though I am finally understanding why for
years people have been running down the field, kicking and chasing.
I never understood this, never was a fan, never understood,
never enjoyed it, never sat down and watched a full
game until this weekend.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
And now I get it. Now I'm in. Now I
want to make chili in hotel. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
It is a new light in my life that I
never ever thought that I would ever be engaging in.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Like who am I? I don't know, I want to
order a jersey like here, Oh my gosh, I am you?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Because like literally, this is the first weekend that he's like, wait,
are we watching the game?
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Like?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Where are we watching the game?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
But are we doing?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Like he.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
He stayed up and watched it.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I fell asleep, Like that is how locked in? He was, like, I'm.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Telling you, I'm dating you just as you are dating me.
That for sure. So you guys get in and the
Bears are good.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I think that's what it is, like the beard something
about this story.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
You know, Yeah, but you live you've lived in in Chicago.
You've lived in Chicago when the Bears were good, So
I didn't know thirteen years ago they were pretty good.
Then we took a while to get good again. But
you know, but but this isn't the first time in
your life that you've lived in a city where the
sports teams were good.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Okay, well, you know what, now I'm here, you know,
and I want to make up for lost time.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
So I'm throwing the super Bowl party.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
We're doing a girl's gonna be a whole thing. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. It's it's the buddy Ball
and we're just gonna have a good time. I am in, y'all.
I am locked in. And I never understood this until
this weekend.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
I don't know what it was. I don't know what got.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Me in it, but it was like they were down
and then I was I was, I was praying, and
then next thing, you know, they were winning, and I
was just like, oh my god, I'm here for the
coach what's his name being?
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yeah? Yeah, what do you think being.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Discovered like water with fruit in it to flavor it? Like,
I don't understand what's happening right now. Yes, it was great.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yes, water tastes so good with this fruit of it, though,
Like if you ever tried it with like a nice cucumber,
maybe like, you know, throw a couple little berries in
there and something like that. It's delicious.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
You gets hurd of yoga, Like, yes, bro, I am here,
I am here, and now I'm locked in butterly.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Um, that's what I say.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
You know, I'm sure they appreciate it when they're down
and you weren't their fans.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
But now that there's good, yeah, sure?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Would you would you have liked it? Would you be
still saying this this morning if the Bears had lost?
Because in this case we're talking about the Bears game.
I mean the Panthers had a close game? Would you
be did you watch that game? I mean there were
a lot of games, and the Bills had a close game.
Would you Would you feel the same way about any
team or is it just at the team where you live?
She ums to be doing well now all of a sudden, I.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Think it's the Bears. I really do.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I felt I feel like the energy in the city
hasn't been like this ever. I've never felt like the
whole city is watching one thing together and we're all
excited together.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
It just felt that I could feel it in the air.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I don't know, yes, yeah, And then if your team
lose this this weekend. Then is it over? Is this
is this interest over, this new found love that you
have for the America's pastime footballer.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Wait for that heartbreak. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I don't know, but you know what, I'm very hopeful
and I feel like, because Mike the mechanic and I
are now on board, that we are really good luck
charms to this team, and so I think there's no
limit to what the Bears will do now that I'm
locked in.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
So honestly, I think we're going to the super Bowl.
I'm not just being.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
Mechanic Mike and Pope Leo. I think he was working
all the time over time. You can't tell me otherwise, we.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Get a pope from Chicago and all of a sudden,
the Bears are pretty good.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Now do you understand how it works or where they're
running or why?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Or so for the life of me, I kept telling
my brother, I said, why is Caleb william sitting now?
Speaker 3 (05:06):
He needs to get in the game.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, you're right, he should get in the game. We
needed it to be his turn a little more because
when I was talking.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Kids by his turn, I'm like, what you mean his turn?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Like my brother was like, because there's an offense and
a defense, and I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. And
so he explained it to me and I was like, okay,
fair enough.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
But you know, when Caleb got in there, he did
what needed to be done.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
And the other guy, I don't know, it was another
guy that was running and kicking, and I.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Was just like, you know, I'm so proud of him kicking.
There's a running back, you know.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Cayro Santos. If you don't know any other player, know
Cairo happening. I'm so happy for you though. I'm so
happy that you found a new passion.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
It's crazy and I never thought this would be me.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Ever.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I always drag girls because I feel like a lot
of my friends they pretend like they like football because
they want to be around the gay. You know, I
dated a football player, like I still don't understand what.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Was going on. Dated a football play. Did you attend
his game?
Speaker 5 (06:06):
I did? I did?
Speaker 7 (06:07):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
All through high school and college.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
I never as impassioned as you are now, not at all.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I only cheer when his family was cheer because I
didn't know what was going on.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
I really was confused. But now I'm locked in. I'm here.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah, I'm happy for you. I'm happy for you. You
don't look I was gonna save the rant for later.
But like I pop off King, the games are always excited,
I would say mostly exciting this time of year because
they're you know, elimination games. It's the playoffs, so they
lose once they're they're out. So I feel like everyone
plays really hard. You win a few games, you went
up in the Super Bowl, you could win up a champion.
(06:43):
That's good. But specifically though, if you watch the Chicago
Bears game against the Green Bay Packers, you don't have
to be a Bears fan to have watched that game
because it's a big rivalry game and if you know
anything about it, then you know that the Bears. You know,
if you're a Bears fan, you cannot lose to the Packers,
especially in chic you just can't do it. Like it's terrible.
And if we had, I think it would have been
(07:04):
I would have taken anything good about this season and
just everyone would have been mad. And you could tell
that by watching the first Oh, I don't know, eighty
percent of the game, eighty five, maybe ninety percent of
the game because we were losing badly. The Bears were
in this game, and you could see on everyone's faces.
You could see Soldier Field turning like people were angry,
like wait a minute, we got this far and now
(07:26):
we're gonna get blown out by these guys. And then like,
in the last five minutes of the game, what did
we score in the fourth quarter? We scored like twenty
three points or something and won the game, which is amazing,
and I'm so happy about that because you know, I'm
an adopted Bears fan. I moved to Chicago a long
time ago, and I was kind of homeless. I grew
up in Arizona. Football homeless. I should say I had
(07:46):
a home, but you know, football homeless. If Cardinals were
just it, you couldn't attach yourself to that. There wasn't
even any like It's not like the Lions that were Caitlyn,
You've been a long suffering Lions fan. But there's like
a long history of generations and Lions fans. I don't
know if there's a long history of generations of Arizona
Cardinals fans. I don't think there are. They weren't even
(08:08):
the Arizona Cardinals. They were the Saint Louis Cardinals at
one point football anyway, whatever the case may be, I
just I get it. I moved here, and I feel
like people were born into this and they love it.
And I lived here when the Bears were good, and
I lived in Chicago when the Bears were bad, and
this town is so much better when sports teams are hitting,
(08:29):
And wherever you live and whatever your team is, you
got to agree with me. When sports teams are hitting,
everybody is happy. But my problem is we should have
lost that damn game. And then they're they're walking around
with all this swag at the end like, ah, yeah,
we did it, you know, Blank the Packers, the whole thing,
you guys, you put everybody through the worst night. The
(08:52):
range of emotions were unnecessary. If you can score twenty
three points in one quarter, why are we in this situation? Week?
Stop it? Stop it. Stop it. Like the second half
of the season, we were gonna lose every game and
somehow we wind up winning, which is amazing, but stop it.
And then Caleb Williams standing there at the end like
he's not even tired, like, oh, yeah, you know, we
(09:14):
probably should have played better, but did it again? Stop it,
stop it. You're so good. Just blow everybody out. Stop it.
I'm mad, I'm watching this game. I could have turned
it off. I think a lot of people did turn
it off and thought that the Chicago Bears had lost,
and they won, but they had to do it all
in the last second. Stop it.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I had a friend who was actually at the game
and he left the stadium and he was on social
media like this sucks.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
I'm so mad at us. And he left the.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Game early and got in the car and then was like, Okay,
I'm sorry, guys, I see we're he was. That was
a funny like story to watch because it was just like,
look how mad you are. Look how quick you turn
on your team. See me, I would never I'm riding
with the Bears win and lose. But he left the stadium.
So yeah, it's just frustrating. And like, you know, some dude,
(10:06):
I saw some video early this morning. I don't remember
who it was because I was hav asleep, but some
kuy in the Packers like, oh, the Bears didn't do anything.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
We just we collapsed. Well that's true. You did. You'd
give up twenty three points in a quarter and you
lost a game that you had handily won. I don't
know that I look at it that way. I mean, yes,
they collapsed, but then the Bears were exceptional. I just
don't get it, like, just be exceptional more, you know,
I mean, like, why are we waiting till the end?
But it's not even like we did it this one time?
(10:33):
Like what was it? Last five six games has been
like this, They're gonna lose again and then all the
miraculously and then they all and then calebly and they
even tired, like bro, you uhoul to be exhausted. It's
like it's too easy. I don't understand. Stop putting us
through this. Fans. I'm like, I love you, and I'm
so happy that this team is winning and it's so
(10:53):
much fun. And I know there are people that you know,
like I said, lifelong Bears fans, multi generation's like and
people are saying that, well, they're called the cardiac Bears.
Seven comeback games, but you're that good? So like why
why are we so bad? And then all of a
sudden so good? I don't get it, Like which one
is it? I think it's I think we're good actually,
(11:15):
and I think that the Bear is gonna be good
for a long time. But like whatever your team is,
if you have every single week, if you have to
live through this, yes, it's exciting, but then like, we're
eventually going to lose a big game this way because
it's not gonna work out this way every single time.
Wait till we play the Seahawks or something, or like,
you know what I mean. We can't do this every time.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Oh no, man, you gotta have faith, you gotta believe.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Man, I'm just frustrated. I'm watching this game. I'm like,
I can't believe this. Man, this is a great season,
and we're gonna lose to the Packers and then everyone's
gonna be mad and like you just what a waste?
And then oh, let's just go ahead, real quick. Score
twenty four just real quick, just a couple of touchdowns,
real quick. Oh good we won? Wow, better play better
next time. I guess I don't know. I can't be
(12:04):
the only one who's just impassionate about it. Oh it's
twenty five points in the fourth quarter, Sorry, twenty five points.
Twenty five Man, I don't think my heart can handle it,
is what I mean. Like, if you saw my instant stories,
I was like, this is bad and then like two
hours later, that was exceptional. I went from calling my
(12:25):
therapist to drinking for good reasons, not bad reasons like
I normally do. So I don't know, there's no one else.
Your Kiki's over here celebrating, jumping up and down because
you watch something it was truly exceptional, and I'm over
here going I'm tired of seeing this, like just blow her.
They start winning, like play well the whole time, right
(12:47):
from the beginning, right, That's all I'm saying. Quit doing
this to us up front.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
Yes, when you're like at a party two and then
like the vibes like they're going.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
In waves, I don't like that. I want to be
like on a high at all times. So I agree
with you, Fred, I'm gonna ride with you on this one.
I'm sure that's what they want to, you know, make
it happen.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I'm sure they do too, But isn't that someone in
there control. I don't know how you go from being
so average to so exceptional and then just turning it
off and doing it over and over again. That's my problem.
Someone says, stop complaining. You know how many years of
being up until the fourth quarter and then blowing the game?
We had to watch. That's true too. I mean that's
true too. I just if it were if it were
one game, I would say, wow, who we got lucky there.
(13:27):
It's a bit of a theme this season, and I'm
I'm just saying stop it.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Not at all.
Speaker 8 (13:36):
I so understand, like what's happening with you right now?
And I stand with you, my brother, I get it.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Thank you, thank you you. I'm grateful. I mean again
and again, not everyone lives in Chicago, but if you've
lived in a team in a city where your team
was doing exceptionally well, I mean, what ten years ago
the Panthers went to the super Bowl. That was such
an exciting time. Even this weekend in Charlotte where our
show is on. It was exciting because they had exceeded
experts and it was electric like it was awesome. And
(14:03):
I'm happy for that. Wherever, wherever you were, Baseball, whatever
sport it is. I mean, black Hawks have been good,
Cubs have been good in my time living in Chicago, Socks,
I'm sure we'll be good again. It's one of those things.
It's better when your teams are firing. Quit playing with
my emotions. And I know Caitlin knows this. Because because
this is what the Lions they're They're good and good
(14:25):
and good and good until they have to be good
and then they're bad. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (14:28):
Well, I mean we got knocked out right before the
Super Bowl last year, so you can imagine the pain
that I was going through on that walk home.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
I walked home from the bar, like, man, I sat
on a bench like I didn't know.
Speaker 8 (14:38):
I'm not even joking, Like I like truly, like where
do I go from here? I had my Nana's ashes
because I thought we were gonna have this moment and
it was just us on that bench.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
And Kiki just discovered this and she thinks every game
is like this. I wish every game we're not like that.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
I don't know, man, it's a great story, great story.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Oh man. Yeah, anyway, I'm gonna play a song now.
I'm gonna take it. My breathing was getting weird at
the end of that game. I'm like, I do I
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It's Kiki's Court, all right, the honorable Kika Leikue Judge Kiki.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Yes, let's get in the courtroom. The gabble has been hit,
all right. It says, hey, kikey am I wrong for
dating my best friends X after.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
She dumped him.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
My name is Danielle and I've been best friends with
Tiegan since childhood. Teagan started dating Carter in high school
and they were on and off for eight years. However,
last year, out of nowhere, Teagan said she was no
longer attracted to Carter. She dumped him and said she
wanted to experience life. Her exact words were, if he
(16:20):
dates someone else tomorrow, good for him. So Carter took
the break up really hard, and he started reaching out
to me because he felt like I knew them both
really well. I was just being nice and supporting him
until we accidentally slept together.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Okay, after that's very supportive.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
The process that Okay, after that, we realized that we
had real chemistry and we started secretly dating. A few
months later. Now we're expecting a baby. So last week
I finally broke the news to Teagan, and to my surprise,
she lost it on me. She accused me of waiting
years for my turn with him, and I had to
(17:03):
quickly remind her that she dumped him. Now she's telling
everyone that I trapped him and stole her future, and
half of our friends won't talk to me.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Am I wrong stole her future?
Speaker 1 (17:13):
She dumped him?
Speaker 3 (17:14):
She did dump him, she did, however for it. What
are you doing with my ex? Like that should be
off limits?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Girl called one on one like, there are a lot
of people in this world.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
How did you end up with my man? I mean,
well my ex?
Speaker 2 (17:30):
You know, yes, I gave him back to the streets,
but that didn't mean for you to go have a
baby with him.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
She's in the streets and ruddy baby.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Wait what was her quote again? He could date anybody
he wants, No, she said.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
If he dates someone else tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Good for him, But that doesn't mean I want him
to date my best friend.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
She's somebody. Oh no, he's the loyalty in the room here.
Speaker 8 (17:53):
That's absolutely insane, Like that's to call the cops, report
her right online, a smear campaign, cancel her.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Hold on, hold on. I mean, first of all, the
jury is you guys are a jury in the room.
And of course at home made five five, five, nine
one one o three five. I would not like this
at all. But and if it was a very good
close friend of mine, then I guess I would hope
that they could see from my perspective why the relationship
(18:23):
didn't work out, and maybe that would not be something
they would want to engage in. And and yes, there
is such a thing as loyalty. I get that, But
like you do run the risk when you dump someone
of them meeting someone you know and dating them. I mean,
you don't. Unfortunately, when you break up with someone, you
don't get to control their actions for the rest of
their life. And and yeah, you may have lost a
(18:45):
friend in the deal, but like, I don't know that
anyone actually did anything wrong here.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Fred, I am shocked.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Now, I wouldn't mind you don't have to like it, Kiki.
There's a difference between not liking something someone did and
it being wrong.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
That's true, but you know, if I don't like it
is wrong.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
They've been friends since childhood, so yes, if you if
you end up with the girl that we had science
class with, okay, but my childhood best friend.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
You're dating my ex and we were together.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
For eight years? What are you doing? Like I feel like,
come on, girl, there has to be some type of loyalty.
And now you're having this man's baby, Like what.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
I mean, it's that great?
Speaker 9 (19:29):
She said she wasn't attracted to him anymore, Like what
does it matter? Maybe they're meant to be together and
it started in high school. Like I know there are
exceptions to the rule, but like high school relationships, like
come on, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
When you just don't get to control people once you
break up with them unfortunately you know, I mean yeah,
because it's not ideal, but like you don't get to
say if if you don't want someone anymore and they
want someone that you know, then that's their right. And
and I look, I think if the we're like, well,
we should still be best friends or I don't know
why you have an issue with that. I mean, she
(20:03):
can have an issue with it, but like, no, no, sir,
how you doing, Sarah, Welcome to the show. Good morning,
Good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Man.
Speaker 10 (20:16):
That's that's a number that's negative. Ain't no way that's
cool like that. That's kind of like a guy called
too no if she was mine, bro, come on it
wet limit. We're not talking no more.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
But listen to your listen to you man, Like like
it's this ownership things like you don't want to be
with someone, why do you care if somebody else does?
Speaker 10 (20:44):
Yeah, but if you my partner, if you my partner,
bro to go behind you, I cannot do that.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
That's Look, I'm a I'm a loyal guy. I Am
not going to go out and date my best friend
you know, ex wife or whatever. But I think it
says something about the friendship, and it might say something
about you if someone chooses your ex over you. Why
are we not flipping this at all? Why are we
(21:12):
not looking at this from the other perspective for one second?
What if? What if this girl was kind of nutty
the whole time, and like it came down to, look,
I'm your friend, but I don't I don't like your
behavior here, and I think he was a decent guy.
And then what if they go off and have a
nice life together. Yes, you lost a friend in the process,
but it's your life, I means true.
Speaker 10 (21:31):
Everybody got their own life to live. I'm not taking
out of this. But at the end of the day,
we played in it shame together, right, no flipping, no turning.
Now we're gonna always go right.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Right, that's right.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah, I hear no, I thank you, sir. Have a
good day. I think. Wow, I get it.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Though it's real personal and I'm believed well.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
And from the other side, I mean, I'll advocate for
the other perspective for just a second. Maybe this person
was not that great of a friend anyway, clearly, you know,
maybe maybe this person was not really your your patna
as as sir would say. And and so you know what,
that person's gone, This person that wasn't all that loyal
to you is gone. Let them have it, Let them, Paulina,
(22:25):
let them. Hey, mel Robbins, I'm on this one.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
I can't let them because at the end of the day,
like I have history with this person, and then that's
my best friend. There's enough fish in the sea. Okay,
there's enough out there. You don't want to take mine
even though he's not mine no more.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yeah, people are really upset it it it's the idea
of controlling other people that I don't like. It's it.
I mean, I would not like this person that's not yours.
And that's what that person is not my friend, that person,
that person should not be. We should not be as
invested in one another as we are. If they're going
to do if they're going to do that. But I
really don't like the idea that everybody I've ever touched
(22:58):
is off limits to any when I've ever met. I
just I don't I don't like. I don't like the
way that feels.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
This is your childhood best friend, Okay, And first of all,
when we broke up, you shouldn't even be talking to
him anymore after that?
Speaker 3 (23:11):
What is she consoling him for? I hear, I knew,
what the hell all my friends know when they break
up with that man?
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I know, I don't know him. He can't run up
to me in the streets like, no, we're good. I
don't even talk to you after.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Lindsay, how are you doing? Lindsay good? How are you guys, Hi,
what did you want to say? Welcome? Do you take
it away Kiki's court? But this is a situation of
a best friend winding up with an ex that that
was discarded. I think we all agree that, yeah, the
primary friend discarded this person and the best friend wound
up having a kid with him. What do you think?
Speaker 11 (23:43):
I think it's it's not right girl code one on one.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I actually was in the same situation.
Speaker 11 (23:48):
H after I graduated high school and I am no
longer best friends with her.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
I'm sorry, Wow, are they still together? Oh no, No,
it was a fling exactly.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
But I keep coming back tout that's very hurtful. But like,
this is a person that you I guess, let's just
let's say that this person, I mean, so, she's not
that good of a friend to you anyway, and she
wants to be with your ex wal you don't like,
So goodbye to both of them. I guess. I mean,
I'm not saying it doesn't hurt, But what I'm saying
(24:20):
to you is what is the point in dwelling on
it or harboring any sort of like long term. She's
not going to be in your life anymore either way.
So what difference does it make? Right?
Speaker 11 (24:30):
But it's still hurtful because I was your best friend
and then you're wondering, Okay, that whole time I was
in a relationship with him, was she having feelings for
him that whole time? Or did she find him attractive?
Like then you're wondering all these things, and then all
the trust is just not there anymore. You're just and
that breaks your heart.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I'm not saying it doesn't hurt. But what I'm saying
is do I have a right to control what happens
after I break up with somebody? And what I can
control is whether I want those two people in my
life anymore, and apparently I don't, So that sucks. I
think there's I think there are two things that could
be true here. But thank you so much. Have a
good day, you too, Jessica, or excuse me, Lindsay was good.
(25:09):
But Jessica, we have to talk. Jessica. Hi, Jessica, Hi, Hi.
Speaker 7 (25:13):
I'm Jessica.
Speaker 11 (25:15):
I have very strong feelings.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
About this topic today.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
What do you think?
Speaker 7 (25:21):
Yeah, so I had a best friend who I knew
since I was five years old, and throughout high school
and college she dated three of my boyfriends that I
dated within months four times, so so one of them
was more than once. I kind of disconnected with her.
I was as an adult. I was like, oh, let's
let's be friends again. And then my now husband then
(25:44):
she kissed him on at one point as well too
when I reconnected with her and we are not friends anymore.
So no, I think that that is it's a completely
valid for.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Her, and I'm sure that happened to you. But can
we connect? Can we at least now that your situation
is different from this one, and that it's clearly this
person who you were friends with was going for you,
going for the jugular, I mean repeatedly going after anything
guy you dated. Is there not a possibility that this
person that these two were meant to be together? These
(26:15):
other two we're not talking about. She's not sloppy seconds
every single time. I mean, that's like, that's some weird
obsession with you kind of stuff. But is it absolutely
possible that in the course of knowing that couple that
they realized that they were better off together. And by
the way, the guy didn't even do it. He got dumped.
It's not like he left her for the other girl.
Speaker 7 (26:36):
I just I think two things can be can be
right at the same time.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Yeah, I agree on that. I think we agree on that.
I think we are on that.
Speaker 7 (26:44):
No, I think more so in my situation was my
friend she just didn't necessarily have the confidence to go
and find anybody that she was that she could date
or anything like that. So I don't know if that
was the same situation. It was just more of a
comfort of eye, know, like I know your boyfriends, so
like I already know them, so when I might as
(27:05):
well date them.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
You know, goes with that saying thank you, Jessic, have
a great day.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Yeah you two, Fred, thank you.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
A lot of a lot of opinions here, Emily. Emily,
you say everybody's wrong.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
Oh my god, I didn't know that's how poories in
this list. Okay, yeah, so everyone's wrong. Because here's the thing,
you guys are right. That one the girl who broke
up with the first girls, it sounds like she kind
of had moved on already when she did break up
with him, so like, yeah, she doesn't can't control him. However,
in some aspect of girl code, I think that the
friend should have said something before she was pregnant with
(27:41):
his child, because now she's just saying something because she's
the other friends going to obviously see she's pregnant. So
like I feel like that would have been more respectful,
and probably she probably had such a strong reaction because
she then you know spiral too, well, how long has
this been going on? You know, she obviously knows they've
been keeping secrets in regardless of if you know is
inner life or not, it's still someone you know you
(28:02):
cared about for power long and that hurts knowing that
they're keeping things from you. But yeah, everyone's wrong.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah, no, this isn't I'm not arguing this is great. Again.
My only real issue here is this whole thing where
it's I own I own you. Uh, no one, no
one else can be with that person. I know because
because I said so, she.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
Does not own him. She definitely cannot dictate if they
are together or not. I do think she has the
right to feel hurt. She does not have a right
to dictate they they are break up or they are together.
She or you know, she does not get to have
an opinion on that because she had very much given
him up already.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
I agree with it. I think you're right. You know
what everybody's wrong case closes, everybody recording?
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Can that be my found it? Can I get a
recording of that?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Fread Everybody's wrong case clothes? You're welcome to that copyright.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
You a good day.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Thank you, Hey, I don't say it a whole a
whole lot. You're right.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
I appreciate I thank you all so much.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Have a good one. She really wanted to soak that
one in.
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