May 8, 2026 • 22 mins
A woman broke up with her boyfriend after finding his ChatGPT searches were about their relationship! And, find out why Melissa got ghosted on an all new Waiting by the Phone!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here's an ethical question. Many ethical things have been covered
already this morning. Can I shoot a drone out of
the sky over my house? It's a little it's a
little unclear. You own some amounts of air over your house,
but not enough, so I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Can I do it? Can I not do it?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
If your drone crashes in my backyard because you were
spying on me at night, then is it really outside
of the realm of possibility that I would destroy said
drone and I wouldn't go to jail for that? I
guess I think that's sort of a buyer beware or
flyer beware in this case. If you're going to crash
your drone over my house, we'll try to spy on
my wife and I doing it, which would be very,
(00:38):
very boring video. I don't even know where i'd find
this wife, but if I, if I had one, I
think that's up to you, though, not to crash your
drone over my house.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
While you're spying on me. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I think that's I think it's a minimum expectation. What
else did we covered. We've discussed infidelity already this morning.
We've really gotten to a lot of things now, let's
talk about ethics. A woman says that this is from
the New York Post, that she ended her relationship after
accidentally discovering her boyfriend's Chat GPT history on his laptop,
and what hurt wasn't cheating, but what he was secretly
(01:11):
saying about her. To the AI Paulina, I'm looking at
you because you act like AI is a therapist sometimes
and it's taking, it's recording what you're saying, and it's
accessible for people who have access to your computer to
go look and see what you've typed in.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
In court court records. Yeah, I heard the court record store.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
You're talking about hobby, asking for relationship advisor, you're venting
or whatever.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
This is not How is that any different than the
radio what I'm doing right now.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Because I have a feeling you're saying more to chat
GBT than you're saying.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
On the radio. Yes and no, yes and no.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
What I like to do is I like to put
our text messages in there, and I'd be like, can
you analyze this for me?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Oh god? What?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Oh yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Or like can you respond to this but like be
a little sassy, but yeah, but like give a little attitude,
but like the understanding.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Okay, So relationship okay, text between you and your husband. Yes, thread,
you're putting into chat GPT when I need help with
a response and asking for an analysis, and then you're
responding to him with something that chat GPT wrote.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I absolutely do. But this is a real.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Relationship debate that you're having, Like, why wouldn't you want
it to be entirely authentic and organic? Why are we
using cheat codes?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Oh, it's authentic, Like it's my thoughts. It's just condensed
nicely because you know, I can go on and on
and on. But I also don't want to be like
so I know. I don't want to be like so
harsh because like you guys know, I take it to
hell like people take it low.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I go to the bottom. I don't want to be
that person anymore. I'm done.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I'm done being that for Chatgypt is just going to
run your relationship for you, and then you won't be
responsible for your own words.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Well, they'll just help me say it nicer. Can I
can say like the most insane thing, but like in
a nice way, wrapped in a bow. She does a
great job.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I found out that every fight I was having with
my significant other was being filtered through CHATCHEPT. I may
as well just chat with fight with a computer, then
not really fighting with you anymore.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
My husband knows he called me out once.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
He would go, he goes you and those chat GPT responses,
that's what I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
So now he's not taking you seriously because he knows
that's not what you would say. It's a formulated response
based on what some textbook.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Would You want to know what I want to say, Like,
it's not nice. You guys know I'm not nice when
I'm fighting him.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Okay, this woman is doing it for him.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
She founded chat titled Relationship Issues and Uncertainty, Which that's
your first mistake. Like, let's not be so specific with
how we're naming our chat.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
So wait, you name I don't. I've never using it.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I haven't and I don't use it very often. Apparently
we're supposed to move on now to Claude. Who's that girl?
Apparently we're supposed to be moving on.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
I never heard about we're at Claude now.
Speaker 6 (03:44):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
My best friend Jonathan was like, get off chat.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
We're at Claude. I guess we're done with Chad.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
We're moving on at claude now but anyway, so, He
apparently had written to chat Gpt asking whether she they
should stay together, whether he should stay with her. He
complained about things like her lifestyle, her cats, her past struggles,
and even question whether he was attracted to her. One
comment especially crusher, when he wrote two Jetchept, I'm just not.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Proud of her.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Paul said, the raw honesty this woman changed how she
saw the relationship, and although the couple stayed together a
few more months after confronting the issue, the damage was
done and they eventually broke up. She later said that
she doesn't think that her ex is a villain, but
the experience showed her how painful it can be to
see someone's completely unfiltered private thoughts, especially when they're being
shared with AI instead of another person. Here's my question
(04:32):
eight five, five, five, nine, one one three five You
can call him text the same number. Does she have
any right to be looking at that?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
And does she have.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Any right to be holding it against him when she
would have had no idea, arguably no idea that he
felt this way had she not read essentially his diary
or is he sloppy and we shouldn't be typing into computer,
you know, programs for advice about our relationship relationship plural.
(05:01):
And because he did that, it was fair game and
she found it. She can go read it. Because how
is this a whole lot different than if I were
talking Well, it's very different than if I were talking
to a therapist, but not maybe in the authenticity and
the and the sort of unedited nature of the communication,
you know what I mean. So I probably shouldn't be
using chat, sheep and t to run my relationship, Paulina,
(05:22):
And maybe shouldn't be so sloppy as to like be
typing in things that I'm trying to work through in
a way that's being documented. But if I go to
my therapist and say all the same things, that's a
more healthy way of dealing with it. But you're still
saying a bunch of really mean things essentially that you're
thinking to someone else that that person wouldn't have any
access to.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Right, you wouldn't know, right?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Does that mean though, Like, I know what he said
wasn't wasn't kind. But if he's that's how he feels
and he's being honest, is that mean necessarily if you
want to a therapist, like a real life person like
garantee human talk to her about it.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
First, right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 7 (05:57):
Like, I think that's unfair to have all these thoughts
and not like I mean you can say, hey, babe,
I'm not proud of you, but like.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
No, but if he had gone to his therapist and
said all these things to try and figure out with
his therapists how to communicate these things to her in
a way that doesn't burn the relationship down, how is
that really any different than a computer? Well, okay, but
like on the basic level, I mean, yes, of course
it's different. You really probably should be interacting with a
licensed therapist and not a computer for life advice. That
(06:23):
being said, how would it be any different for him
to confide in a human these things that are not
nice versus writing them down like let's say chat GPT
were't involved, and these were just his diary and he's
working through his thoughts in his head that you would
never know. But essentially she opened up his diary and
read it and held it against him. So my question
is that fair? Yes, because now she knows his raw thoughts. However,
(06:46):
he might have processed them and then communicated them with
her in a more healthy way that then could have
affected change, and therefore her feelings wouldn't have been so
fundamentally hurt. Did she really? I don't think she actually
had any business reading this information. And yeah, once you
read it, you can hear it. Yeah, but that's not
her business, my friend. Things happen for a reason.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
You know.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Information falls in my lap all the time, all the time,
you know, and you have to take that as a sai.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
No, you have to take that kind of information.
Speaker 7 (07:15):
You know.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
I do a ninety day check on the phone just
to see what's up, and it's all it's cool.
Speaker 7 (07:20):
You know.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
It's because he doesn't need privacy.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Right, No, man, but no, But honestly, in this case,
I think she like if that's her lap for a reason.
She saw this search history for a reason, girl, don't
ignore the signs the man is proud of you.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
The reason was that the reason was that she was
flying on him.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
Well, she might have just been going to order some
dinner and search history control.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
You're gonna find something. You go look and you're always
gonna fight one hundred and I always find something. But yes, you.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Do you think that he you think that she has
a right. I mean, she has a right to do anything,
but you think it's fair. And I guess it doesn't
matter what's fair and what's not fair, because she knows
it now and she's not gonna unknow it. But like
the fact that they're not together because she read something
that he wasn't ready to communicate with her or maybe
never would have. I mean, come on, I think we
(08:09):
all have had intrusive thoughts about people or things at
times that are natural, you know, and that we work
through in our heads and then we moved past, but
we wouldn't necessarily want someone to know that we thought it. Now,
is it sloppy that he was doing it this way? Yeah,
he's asking to get Hey Hunter, good morning, How you
doing good?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
How you doing? Fred?
Speaker 7 (08:28):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Is it cool like if I read someone's diary, or
I go look at their search history, or I go
read their chatch EPT log or whatever, and I see
their sam bad stuff about me? Is it really fair
for me to be like, I'm done with you. I'm
completely done. I'm not going to accept this.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
No, Fred, I don't think it's fair. But if you're
thinking and saying those things, you got no business being
with me. See that's not love and that ain't right.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, but hunter, so you've never been with someone romantically
or loved someone and thought that in your head, Like, man,
right at this very moment, I wish this, but you'd
never say it to them, and then you will move
past it, Like isn't that a human thing?
Speaker 8 (09:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Maybe, but to think to say, I'm just not proud
of her. Do I want to be with her?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah? Well that's great, that's not real, right.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I appreciate you every day. No, it means some.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
But again, if it were in my brain and in
this moment, I'm like, God, I'm embarrassed by this person.
They're drunk, they're acting stupid, they're you know, getting in
I don't know, making a scene or something, having a
bad day. I'm like, you've never in your head thought
I'm so embarrassed right now, But you're not. You wouldn't
want them to know that because tomorrow you might not be,
and then for the next fifty years you're together, you
might not be.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
But a thought is a thought.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
But you took time to type it into chat and
having a whole conversation with a computer.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
That's really on your heart. That's what you think, that's
what you feel. Hey, Emily, Emily.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yet Hi, So what do you think how much if
I stumble upon someone's diary or I don't know, just
search history or something. Am I really is it fair
for me to take it out against them that I
win and read this stuff without their permission?
Speaker 7 (10:12):
I mean me personally, I'm going to keep it a
thinker that I even know. I don't think it's fair.
I don't think it's fair for me to hold it
against you. But like you said, now, I know it's
all out in the open air. So obviously I'm going
to take it to heart and I'm not going to forget.
So for me, Hunter said, I'm done because why could
(10:34):
you tell Chad Gpt this?
Speaker 6 (10:36):
But you couldn't tell me right to my.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Faith and you already feel those things.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
So for me, you're not even proud of me.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Come on, dude, get out of here.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Like see, I might say that to Google or whatever,
but I might not. I've said things to my you know,
to my executive coaches that I go to sometimes, I've
said this to my executive coach that I would not.
I say it how it's in my brain trying to
formulate a more health way to actually communicate it, right,
So like, maybe that's what he said in the moment,
but he didn't really feel that way. But now you've
(11:05):
seen it, you weren't supposed to see it, and then
we're not together anymore and that's the reason why.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Well yeah, but.
Speaker 7 (11:10):
At that point, it's just too late.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
It's too late.
Speaker 7 (11:13):
Like your coworker said, you can formulate ideas and explain
things in a more gentle way, but you know what,
it's all out in the open now, how you truly
feel I'm done, babe?
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Late Now, all right, Emily, thank you, have a good day. Yeah, yeah,
you can un learn it. But I She's like, that's
how you learn you were spying on me.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
The fact that she could hold that as a secret,
like for the rest of the relationship.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
The caller like, I would not be able to do that, okay,
argument were arguing over the dishes.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, you're not even proud of me. She would come
out of the worst side. Yes, I would never defend
a man.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Someone said, however, we have all had bad days and
thought really terrible thoughts about people that we love dearly
that I would never want them to know. It's healthy
to get those thoughts. Out then to keep them in
and ruminate on them. They just got into a fight
about something and he needed to vent. All right, one
more is it?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Is it? Kaisha?
Speaker 6 (12:07):
It's Kaisha, good morning.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
How you doing. I'm doing great.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
You guys in the morning, I'm doing great.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Thank you so much. You get the final say, I do.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Agree with you. It is more like a privacy issue
because when you're in a relationship sometimes sometimes you don't
want to say things out loud at first thought because
it comes off unkind and when you go to a therapist,
not everybody gets to hear that information. When you write
into a diary, that is a privacy issue. And for
her to go through his stuff like that, she's looking
(12:39):
for something. She was looking for a reason out and
she found it. And it's horrible that it came across
that way to her, and maybe he wanted to stay
it nicer, but she was looking for it and she
found it, and that was his own private thought.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
It would be impossible to forget something like like he's
not proud of me. That being said, you also have
to realize that you were never supposed to see that,
Like what if that was something that he worked through.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
Exactly looking at the intention of it. It wasn't malicious.
It was for him to work through an issue he
had for learning heart.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
But it was sloppy too. Kisha was sloppy. I mean,
come on, now, we write this stuff down for everybody
to see, you know, right next to the door down shore.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
To come on. I deleteed, delete the thread. Thank you.
Keisha had a good day on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Yeah, yea, hey, I can tell you if I'm writing
stuff like that on my computer that I'm making absolutely
sure I don't just actually we met open that. Being said,
I've left things up on the browser that I was
done with and then gone to show someone something else
and then it's you know, you open it up, and.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
That's never happened. I just heard that it happens to people.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Ever been left waiting by the phone. It's the thread show.
Hey Melissa, good morning, welcome to the program. How are you.
I'm good, How are you doing great? What's going on
with this guy?
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Noah?
Speaker 1 (13:54):
We need to know on waiting metaphone, how you met,
about any dates you've been on, and why you think
you are being ghosted?
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Okay, so I had a really great time with this
guy Noah. We met on a dating app, and he
really stood out to me because like he really listened
to everything I was saying. And I know that sounds
like simple, but it's not as easy as you think
to find this man.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Listen to you tell me more about this. So you
spoke and he was paying attention. Wow, this is something
that most of us could work on. But yeah, all right,
so congratulations, sounds like a keeper. You should marry him.
What's the problem, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
And basically he planned something other than just like basic drinks.
Like he remembered that I love animals and especially kittens.
So when we met up, we went to this like
shelter to play with puppies and kittens and some other
animals up for adoption.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yeah that he took you to an animal rescue place
for a day. Wow, these dudes doing the most I know.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
I thought it was so creative and like another like
amazing way to break the ice, you know, because like
dating on apps, it's not the greatest. So I'm like,
basically I'm smitten for him, and I'm like, I don't
really understand. After that, we went to grab drinks, we
had appetizers, and I just felt like he put in
(15:19):
so much effort and then why ghost me? You know,
I really don't understand. I thought we had an amazing date.
He went through all this effort, and then now he's
just not really responding to.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Me, right right, So that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I mean, you're frustrated because you like the guy and again,
you know, very thoughtful. First date really was listening and
paying attention, and yet you have not heard from him
since then, and I assume that you've reached out and
he's not responding.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Yeah, yeah, literally nothing. I'm like, Hey, how's it going.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
No response?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah, okay, Well, let's play a song. We'll come back
in a couple of minutes. We're gonna call Noah. You'll
be on the phone at the same time. We'll ask
some questions on your behalf. At some point you're welcome
to jumping on the call. And the hope is always
is that we can straighten this out to set you
guys up on another date and pay for that.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Okay, would be great.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Hey, Melissa, Hi, let's call this guy Noah. You met
out one of the apps. You went on this date
that you think was super thoughtful, and it was. I
think we all agree you had said that you like
animals and rescue animals, so he set up this date
where you went to a rescue. And I mean, honestly,
like everyone I feel like on the dating apps has
very low investment early on, it doesn't try that hard.
(16:25):
I'm guilty of this too. It's like do you want
to drink? You know, like, do you drink? Let's go
there and do that and see how this goes kind
of thing. But this guy really tried, except you have
not heard from him since this date that you thought
went really well, and you want to know why. Yeah, okay,
let's call no one now, Good luck Melissa.
Speaker 8 (16:49):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
This is Noah, Yeah, Noah, good morning. My name is Fred.
I'm calling from the Fred's Show, the Morning radio show,
and I do have to tell you that we are
on the radio right now, and I would need your
permission to continue with the call. Can WHI chat for
just a second? Would you mind? You can hang up anytime?
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (17:06):
Yeah, I mean I guess that's fine.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Okay, good, thank you.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
We're calling on behalf of a woman named Melissa, who
I guess you met on a dating app recently and
you guys went out on a date.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Do you remember her? Yeah, I remember Melissa, So.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
What happened, Noah, Because we just talked to her and
she told us that she liked you and that you
planned a great date, a very thoughtful date, that she
felt like you were listening to her. And yet she
says she's reached out to plan a second date thinking
that would happen, and you haven't responded to her at all,
and she wants to know why she's confused.
Speaker 8 (17:36):
I mean, yeah, I think I just don't think things
are really gonna I'm not really what.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
She's looking for. What does that mean? Because I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
I mean I think maybe you are because she's calling
us and saying, hey, I like this guy. It was
a great first date. It was unlike other dates I've
been on. I want to see him again. So what
is your take?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah? I mean, I mean.
Speaker 8 (17:57):
Is that she's a lesbian and that she's not in
the guys. So I don't know why she called you guys.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
That's your take or that's like, did she did she
say that to you?
Speaker 6 (18:06):
Like?
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Did she did?
Speaker 1 (18:08):
She talk about the w NBA a lot? Like I mean,
what you know, I guess I don't understand, Like, what
what is it that set you off.
Speaker 8 (18:14):
No, I mean like we were we were sitting and talking.
I mean, like you know, and it was a good
time at first, like you know, we were you know,
we met on an app and we went and got
drinks and we were we were hanging out, and then
she was talking about how like she's bisexual and stuff,
and I mean, you know, okay, it's pretty common knowledge
that being bisexual isn't real, Like it's just what people
(18:35):
say when they're not ready to like fully come out.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Well well, and therein lies the problem. Is it pretty
common knowledge if that's not real.
Speaker 8 (18:43):
I mean, because you can't really like like both agenders equally.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Like definitely one way for the other.
Speaker 8 (18:52):
Like and you know, she made it very obvious that
she leans more towards women.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Did she, Now, Okay, because I think you can. I
think people do like both, and I think that's something
that happens regularly. Let me bring Melissa in. I forgot
to mention that, Melissa, So you brought up on the
date that you like men and women, and he's now
he now believes that you favor women, even though you
were on a date with a man.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Oh my god, I cannot believe. This is why you
ghosted me.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Are you serious?
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Like most guys think it's hot, So I don't.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
I don't really like No, I don't. I don't think
that's the way to think of it either.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
But so, okay, so you told him that you you
date both genders on this date.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Yeah, I swim pickens out here.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
I told you. Oh wait, that's why you're bisexual. Right,
So you're just low on choices.
Speaker 8 (19:45):
So you decided to be closeted.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Well, I don't think she's closeted because she's closeted rather
vocal about it. I mean, there were a lot of
problems here. I have a lot of issues. One whether
or not you believe in this at all, Two that
whether she said it. Three why it is? I mean,
according to you, it's like lack of lack of inventory.
Speaker 8 (20:10):
Is.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
But I think it's a little more than whatever.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Okay, does he engaged one? Why Melissa? Is he getting
the impression that you favor one? Like? Why is his
takeaway that you like women more than men? But yet
you're obviously interested in seeing him again?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
I'm by means you like both genders.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
You're open?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Okay, all right, So she's open man, and so she's
in this case very open, wants to open.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Well, that's lack of.
Speaker 8 (20:40):
Commitment to me. And she just told me that, Like,
she's just low on choices, and so I'm not here
to either be cheated on later down the road for
a women or to even feel like I'm just like
you're backed up, chorte. I'm just a duty fell on
the street where you're like, oh my god, finally I
found one.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Like I don't want to be good one.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Okay, I have high standards, That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
I'm so confused. There are so many problems here though.
So she likes bar Let's just get for the benefit
of the doubt for one second and assume that she
just likes everybody, and so she liked you, So what
difference does it make if she also I mean, look, Noah,
you probably have an ex girlfriend. If she look I
dents and called to Melissa. I mean, again, these aren't
the same thing. But I just mean everyone likes what
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they like, and and and I may like one thing
in one person and one thing in another person. So
I mean, in this case, she's interested in both men
and women, she says, and you happen to be a
man and she's interested in you, So why do you
automatically assume that she would leave you for.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
A woman, Because when you don't, you don't have a reason.
You just you're just a little close minded about this.
Speaker 8 (21:46):
No, no, no, it's not that I'm closed minded, and it's that,
you know, it's just something that people say when they're
not ready to like fully come out of the come
out as being a lesbian or being that's true.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
I think there are people who like both. But you don't.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Look, I'm not going to change this guy's mine. So Noah,
you don't want to go out with her again? No, okay, Melissa,
I don't. I don't know that I fully understand your
position either. However, this guy, this guy doesn't believe.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
In what you do.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
She's just say I made the best man or woman
win her heart.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I hope you wit it. That's what I'm saying. But
it's supposed to.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Be a little more than that. I think, like real
connection and investment. But I don't just giving up my
men because I had some bad ones and now you're
just gonna try out women. No, doesn't believe in any
of this. Melissa is just trying things. I think maybe
we all need to figure some things out and then,
you know, maybe get back together at another time or
maybe never. But look, Melissa, Noah, thank you, thank you
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both for this, whatever this was. And yeah, and I
wish you both the best of life.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Thank you,
Here's an ethical question. Many ethical things have been covered
already this morning. Can I shoot a drone out of
the sky over my house? It's a little it's a
little unclear. You own some amounts of air over your house,
but not enough, so I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Can I do it? Can I not do it?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
If your drone crashes in my backyard because you were
spying on me at night, then is it really outside
of the realm of possibility that I would destroy said
drone and I wouldn't go to jail for that? I
guess I think that's sort of a buyer beware or
flyer beware in this case. If you're going to crash
your drone over my house, we'll try to spy on
my wife and I doing it, which would be very,
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very boring video. I don't even know where i'd find
this wife, but if I, if I had one, I
think that's up to you, though, not to crash your
drone over my house.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
While you're spying on me. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I think that's I think it's a minimum expectation. What
else did we covered. We've discussed infidelity already this morning.
We've really gotten to a lot of things now, let's
talk about ethics. A woman says that this is from
the New York Post, that she ended her relationship after
accidentally discovering her boyfriend's Chat GPT history on his laptop,
and what hurt wasn't cheating, but what he was secretly
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saying about her. To the AI Paulina, I'm looking at
you because you act like AI is a therapist sometimes
and it's taking, it's recording what you're saying, and it's
accessible for people who have access to your computer to
go look and see what you've typed in.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
In court court records. Yeah, I heard the court record store.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
You're talking about hobby, asking for relationship advisor, you're venting
or whatever.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
This is not How is that any different than the
radio what I'm doing right now.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Because I have a feeling you're saying more to chat
GBT than you're saying.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
On the radio. Yes and no, yes and no.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
What I like to do is I like to put
our text messages in there, and I'd be like, can
you analyze this for me?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Oh god? What?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Oh yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Or like can you respond to this but like be
a little sassy, but yeah, but like give a little attitude,
but like the understanding.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Okay, So relationship okay, text between you and your husband. Yes, thread,
you're putting into chat GPT when I need help with
a response and asking for an analysis, and then you're
responding to him with something that chat GPT wrote.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I absolutely do. But this is a real.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Relationship debate that you're having, Like, why wouldn't you want
it to be entirely authentic and organic? Why are we
using cheat codes?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Oh, it's authentic, Like it's my thoughts. It's just condensed
nicely because you know, I can go on and on
and on. But I also don't want to be like
so I know. I don't want to be like so
harsh because like you guys know, I take it to
hell like people take it low.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I go to the bottom. I don't want to be
that person anymore. I'm done.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I'm done being that for Chatgypt is just going to
run your relationship for you, and then you won't be
responsible for your own words.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Well, they'll just help me say it nicer. Can I
can say like the most insane thing, but like in
a nice way, wrapped in a bow. She does a
great job.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I found out that every fight I was having with
my significant other was being filtered through CHATCHEPT. I may
as well just chat with fight with a computer, then
not really fighting with you anymore.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
My husband knows he called me out once.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
He would go, he goes you and those chat GPT responses,
that's what I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
So now he's not taking you seriously because he knows
that's not what you would say. It's a formulated response
based on what some textbook.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Would You want to know what I want to say, Like,
it's not nice. You guys know I'm not nice when
I'm fighting him.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Okay, this woman is doing it for him.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
She founded chat titled Relationship Issues and Uncertainty, Which that's
your first mistake. Like, let's not be so specific with
how we're naming our chat.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
So wait, you name I don't. I've never using it.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I haven't and I don't use it very often. Apparently
we're supposed to move on now to Claude. Who's that girl?
Apparently we're supposed to be moving on.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
I never heard about we're at Claude now.
Speaker 6 (03:44):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
My best friend Jonathan was like, get off chat.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
We're at Claude. I guess we're done with Chad.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
We're moving on at claude now but anyway, so, He
apparently had written to chat Gpt asking whether she they
should stay together, whether he should stay with her. He
complained about things like her lifestyle, her cats, her past struggles,
and even question whether he was attracted to her. One
comment especially crusher, when he wrote two Jetchept, I'm just not.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Proud of her.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Paul said, the raw honesty this woman changed how she
saw the relationship, and although the couple stayed together a
few more months after confronting the issue, the damage was
done and they eventually broke up. She later said that
she doesn't think that her ex is a villain, but
the experience showed her how painful it can be to
see someone's completely unfiltered private thoughts, especially when they're being
shared with AI instead of another person. Here's my question
(04:32):
eight five, five, five, nine, one one three five You
can call him text the same number. Does she have
any right to be looking at that?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
And does she have.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Any right to be holding it against him when she
would have had no idea, arguably no idea that he
felt this way had she not read essentially his diary
or is he sloppy and we shouldn't be typing into computer,
you know, programs for advice about our relationship relationship plural.
(05:01):
And because he did that, it was fair game and
she found it. She can go read it. Because how
is this a whole lot different than if I were
talking Well, it's very different than if I were talking
to a therapist, but not maybe in the authenticity and
the and the sort of unedited nature of the communication,
you know what I mean. So I probably shouldn't be
using chat, sheep and t to run my relationship, Paulina,
(05:22):
And maybe shouldn't be so sloppy as to like be
typing in things that I'm trying to work through in
a way that's being documented. But if I go to
my therapist and say all the same things, that's a
more healthy way of dealing with it. But you're still
saying a bunch of really mean things essentially that you're
thinking to someone else that that person wouldn't have any
access to.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Right, you wouldn't know, right?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Does that mean though, Like, I know what he said
wasn't wasn't kind. But if he's that's how he feels
and he's being honest, is that mean necessarily if you
want to a therapist, like a real life person like
garantee human talk to her about it.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
First, right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 7 (05:57):
Like, I think that's unfair to have all these thoughts
and not like I mean you can say, hey, babe,
I'm not proud of you, but like.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
No, but if he had gone to his therapist and
said all these things to try and figure out with
his therapists how to communicate these things to her in
a way that doesn't burn the relationship down, how is
that really any different than a computer? Well, okay, but
like on the basic level, I mean, yes, of course
it's different. You really probably should be interacting with a
licensed therapist and not a computer for life advice. That
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being said, how would it be any different for him
to confide in a human these things that are not
nice versus writing them down like let's say chat GPT
were't involved, and these were just his diary and he's
working through his thoughts in his head that you would
never know. But essentially she opened up his diary and
read it and held it against him. So my question
is that fair? Yes, because now she knows his raw thoughts. However,
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he might have processed them and then communicated them with
her in a more healthy way that then could have
affected change, and therefore her feelings wouldn't have been so
fundamentally hurt. Did she really? I don't think she actually
had any business reading this information. And yeah, once you
read it, you can hear it. Yeah, but that's not
her business, my friend. Things happen for a reason.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
You know.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Information falls in my lap all the time, all the time,
you know, and you have to take that as a sai.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
No, you have to take that kind of information.
Speaker 7 (07:15):
You know.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
I do a ninety day check on the phone just
to see what's up, and it's all it's cool.
Speaker 7 (07:20):
You know.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
It's because he doesn't need privacy.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Right, No, man, but no, But honestly, in this case,
I think she like if that's her lap for a reason.
She saw this search history for a reason, girl, don't
ignore the signs the man is proud of you.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
The reason was that the reason was that she was
flying on him.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
Well, she might have just been going to order some
dinner and search history control.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
You're gonna find something. You go look and you're always
gonna fight one hundred and I always find something. But yes, you.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Do you think that he you think that she has
a right. I mean, she has a right to do anything,
but you think it's fair. And I guess it doesn't
matter what's fair and what's not fair, because she knows
it now and she's not gonna unknow it. But like
the fact that they're not together because she read something
that he wasn't ready to communicate with her or maybe
never would have. I mean, come on, I think we
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all have had intrusive thoughts about people or things at
times that are natural, you know, and that we work
through in our heads and then we moved past, but
we wouldn't necessarily want someone to know that we thought it. Now,
is it sloppy that he was doing it this way? Yeah,
he's asking to get Hey Hunter, good morning, How you
doing good?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
How you doing? Fred?
Speaker 7 (08:28):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Is it cool like if I read someone's diary, or
I go look at their search history, or I go
read their chatch EPT log or whatever, and I see
their sam bad stuff about me? Is it really fair
for me to be like, I'm done with you. I'm
completely done. I'm not going to accept this.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
No, Fred, I don't think it's fair. But if you're
thinking and saying those things, you got no business being
with me. See that's not love and that ain't right.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, but hunter, so you've never been with someone romantically
or loved someone and thought that in your head, Like, man,
right at this very moment, I wish this, but you'd
never say it to them, and then you will move
past it, Like isn't that a human thing?
Speaker 8 (09:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Maybe, but to think to say, I'm just not proud
of her. Do I want to be with her?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah? Well that's great, that's not real, right.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I appreciate you every day. No, it means some.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
But again, if it were in my brain and in
this moment, I'm like, God, I'm embarrassed by this person.
They're drunk, they're acting stupid, they're you know, getting in
I don't know, making a scene or something, having a
bad day. I'm like, you've never in your head thought
I'm so embarrassed right now, But you're not. You wouldn't
want them to know that because tomorrow you might not be,
and then for the next fifty years you're together, you
might not be.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
But a thought is a thought.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
But you took time to type it into chat and
having a whole conversation with a computer.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
That's really on your heart. That's what you think, that's
what you feel. Hey, Emily, Emily.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yet Hi, So what do you think how much if
I stumble upon someone's diary or I don't know, just
search history or something. Am I really is it fair
for me to take it out against them that I
win and read this stuff without their permission?
Speaker 7 (10:12):
I mean me personally, I'm going to keep it a
thinker that I even know. I don't think it's fair.
I don't think it's fair for me to hold it
against you. But like you said, now, I know it's
all out in the open air. So obviously I'm going
to take it to heart and I'm not going to forget.
So for me, Hunter said, I'm done because why could
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you tell Chad Gpt this?
Speaker 6 (10:36):
But you couldn't tell me right to my.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Faith and you already feel those things.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
So for me, you're not even proud of me.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Come on, dude, get out of here.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Like see, I might say that to Google or whatever,
but I might not. I've said things to my you know,
to my executive coaches that I go to sometimes, I've
said this to my executive coach that I would not.
I say it how it's in my brain trying to
formulate a more health way to actually communicate it, right,
So like, maybe that's what he said in the moment,
but he didn't really feel that way. But now you've
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seen it, you weren't supposed to see it, and then
we're not together anymore and that's the reason why.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Well yeah, but.
Speaker 7 (11:10):
At that point, it's just too late.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
It's too late.
Speaker 7 (11:13):
Like your coworker said, you can formulate ideas and explain
things in a more gentle way, but you know what,
it's all out in the open now, how you truly
feel I'm done, babe?
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Late Now, all right, Emily, thank you, have a good day. Yeah, yeah,
you can un learn it. But I She's like, that's
how you learn you were spying on me.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
The fact that she could hold that as a secret,
like for the rest of the relationship.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
The caller like, I would not be able to do that, okay,
argument were arguing over the dishes.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, you're not even proud of me. She would come
out of the worst side. Yes, I would never defend
a man.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Someone said, however, we have all had bad days and
thought really terrible thoughts about people that we love dearly
that I would never want them to know. It's healthy
to get those thoughts. Out then to keep them in
and ruminate on them. They just got into a fight
about something and he needed to vent. All right, one
more is it?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Is it? Kaisha?
Speaker 6 (12:07):
It's Kaisha, good morning.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
How you doing. I'm doing great.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
You guys in the morning, I'm doing great.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Thank you so much. You get the final say, I do.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Agree with you. It is more like a privacy issue
because when you're in a relationship sometimes sometimes you don't
want to say things out loud at first thought because
it comes off unkind and when you go to a therapist,
not everybody gets to hear that information. When you write
into a diary, that is a privacy issue. And for
her to go through his stuff like that, she's looking
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for something. She was looking for a reason out and
she found it. And it's horrible that it came across
that way to her, and maybe he wanted to stay
it nicer, but she was looking for it and she
found it, and that was his own private thought.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
It would be impossible to forget something like like he's
not proud of me. That being said, you also have
to realize that you were never supposed to see that,
Like what if that was something that he worked through.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
Exactly looking at the intention of it. It wasn't malicious.
It was for him to work through an issue he
had for learning heart.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
But it was sloppy too. Kisha was sloppy. I mean,
come on, now, we write this stuff down for everybody
to see, you know, right next to the door down shore.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
To come on. I deleteed, delete the thread. Thank you.
Keisha had a good day on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Yeah, yea, hey, I can tell you if I'm writing
stuff like that on my computer that I'm making absolutely
sure I don't just actually we met open that. Being said,
I've left things up on the browser that I was
done with and then gone to show someone something else
and then it's you know, you open it up, and.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
That's never happened. I just heard that it happens to people.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Ever been left waiting by the phone. It's the thread show.
Hey Melissa, good morning, welcome to the program. How are you.
I'm good, How are you doing great? What's going on
with this guy?
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Noah?
Speaker 1 (13:54):
We need to know on waiting metaphone, how you met,
about any dates you've been on, and why you think
you are being ghosted?
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Okay, so I had a really great time with this
guy Noah. We met on a dating app, and he
really stood out to me because like he really listened
to everything I was saying. And I know that sounds
like simple, but it's not as easy as you think
to find this man.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Listen to you tell me more about this. So you
spoke and he was paying attention. Wow, this is something
that most of us could work on. But yeah, all right,
so congratulations, sounds like a keeper. You should marry him.
What's the problem, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
And basically he planned something other than just like basic drinks.
Like he remembered that I love animals and especially kittens.
So when we met up, we went to this like
shelter to play with puppies and kittens and some other
animals up for adoption.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yeah that he took you to an animal rescue place
for a day. Wow, these dudes doing the most I know.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
I thought it was so creative and like another like
amazing way to break the ice, you know, because like
dating on apps, it's not the greatest. So I'm like,
basically I'm smitten for him, and I'm like, I don't
really understand. After that, we went to grab drinks, we
had appetizers, and I just felt like he put in
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so much effort and then why ghost me? You know,
I really don't understand. I thought we had an amazing date.
He went through all this effort, and then now he's
just not really responding to.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Me, right right, So that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I mean, you're frustrated because you like the guy and again,
you know, very thoughtful. First date really was listening and
paying attention, and yet you have not heard from him
since then, and I assume that you've reached out and
he's not responding.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Yeah, yeah, literally nothing. I'm like, Hey, how's it going.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
No response?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah, okay, Well, let's play a song. We'll come back
in a couple of minutes. We're gonna call Noah. You'll
be on the phone at the same time. We'll ask
some questions on your behalf. At some point you're welcome
to jumping on the call. And the hope is always
is that we can straighten this out to set you
guys up on another date and pay for that.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Okay, would be great.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Hey, Melissa, Hi, let's call this guy Noah. You met
out one of the apps. You went on this date
that you think was super thoughtful, and it was. I
think we all agree you had said that you like
animals and rescue animals, so he set up this date
where you went to a rescue. And I mean, honestly,
like everyone I feel like on the dating apps has
very low investment early on, it doesn't try that hard.
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I'm guilty of this too. It's like do you want
to drink? You know, like, do you drink? Let's go
there and do that and see how this goes kind
of thing. But this guy really tried, except you have
not heard from him since this date that you thought
went really well, and you want to know why. Yeah, okay,
let's call no one now, Good luck Melissa.
Speaker 8 (16:49):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
This is Noah, Yeah, Noah, good morning. My name is Fred.
I'm calling from the Fred's Show, the Morning radio show,
and I do have to tell you that we are
on the radio right now, and I would need your
permission to continue with the call. Can WHI chat for
just a second? Would you mind? You can hang up anytime?
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (17:06):
Yeah, I mean I guess that's fine.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Okay, good, thank you.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
We're calling on behalf of a woman named Melissa, who
I guess you met on a dating app recently and
you guys went out on a date.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Do you remember her? Yeah, I remember Melissa, So.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
What happened, Noah, Because we just talked to her and
she told us that she liked you and that you
planned a great date, a very thoughtful date, that she
felt like you were listening to her. And yet she
says she's reached out to plan a second date thinking
that would happen, and you haven't responded to her at all,
and she wants to know why she's confused.
Speaker 8 (17:36):
I mean, yeah, I think I just don't think things
are really gonna I'm not really what.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
She's looking for. What does that mean? Because I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
I mean I think maybe you are because she's calling
us and saying, hey, I like this guy. It was
a great first date. It was unlike other dates I've
been on. I want to see him again. So what
is your take?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah? I mean, I mean.
Speaker 8 (17:57):
Is that she's a lesbian and that she's not in
the guys. So I don't know why she called you guys.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
That's your take or that's like, did she did she
say that to you?
Speaker 6 (18:06):
Like?
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Did she did?
Speaker 1 (18:08):
She talk about the w NBA a lot? Like I mean,
what you know, I guess I don't understand, Like, what
what is it that set you off.
Speaker 8 (18:14):
No, I mean like we were we were sitting and talking.
I mean, like you know, and it was a good
time at first, like you know, we were you know,
we met on an app and we went and got
drinks and we were we were hanging out, and then
she was talking about how like she's bisexual and stuff,
and I mean, you know, okay, it's pretty common knowledge
that being bisexual isn't real, Like it's just what people
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say when they're not ready to like fully come out.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Well well, and therein lies the problem. Is it pretty
common knowledge if that's not real.
Speaker 8 (18:43):
I mean, because you can't really like like both agenders equally.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Like definitely one way for the other.
Speaker 8 (18:52):
Like and you know, she made it very obvious that
she leans more towards women.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Did she, Now, Okay, because I think you can. I
think people do like both, and I think that's something
that happens regularly. Let me bring Melissa in. I forgot
to mention that, Melissa, So you brought up on the
date that you like men and women, and he's now
he now believes that you favor women, even though you
were on a date with a man.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Oh my god, I cannot believe. This is why you
ghosted me.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Are you serious?
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Like most guys think it's hot, So I don't.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
I don't really like No, I don't. I don't think
that's the way to think of it either.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
But so, okay, so you told him that you you
date both genders on this date.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Yeah, I swim pickens out here.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
I told you. Oh wait, that's why you're bisexual. Right,
So you're just low on choices.
Speaker 8 (19:45):
So you decided to be closeted.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Well, I don't think she's closeted because she's closeted rather
vocal about it. I mean, there were a lot of
problems here. I have a lot of issues. One whether
or not you believe in this at all, Two that
whether she said it. Three why it is? I mean,
according to you, it's like lack of lack of inventory.
Speaker 8 (20:10):
Is.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
But I think it's a little more than whatever.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Okay, does he engaged one? Why Melissa? Is he getting
the impression that you favor one? Like? Why is his
takeaway that you like women more than men? But yet
you're obviously interested in seeing him again?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
I'm by means you like both genders.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
You're open?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Okay, all right, So she's open man, and so she's
in this case very open, wants to open.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Well, that's lack of.
Speaker 8 (20:40):
Commitment to me. And she just told me that, Like,
she's just low on choices, and so I'm not here
to either be cheated on later down the road for
a women or to even feel like I'm just like
you're backed up, chorte. I'm just a duty fell on
the street where you're like, oh my god, finally I
found one.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Like I don't want to be good one.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Okay, I have high standards, That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
I'm so confused. There are so many problems here though.
So she likes bar Let's just get for the benefit
of the doubt for one second and assume that she
just likes everybody, and so she liked you, So what
difference does it make if she also I mean, look, Noah,
you probably have an ex girlfriend. If she look I
dents and called to Melissa. I mean, again, these aren't
the same thing. But I just mean everyone likes what
(21:24):
they like, and and and I may like one thing
in one person and one thing in another person. So
I mean, in this case, she's interested in both men
and women, she says, and you happen to be a
man and she's interested in you, So why do you
automatically assume that she would leave you for.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
A woman, Because when you don't, you don't have a reason.
You just you're just a little close minded about this.
Speaker 8 (21:46):
No, no, no, it's not that I'm closed minded, and it's that,
you know, it's just something that people say when they're
not ready to like fully come out of the come
out as being a lesbian or being that's true.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
I think there are people who like both. But you don't.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Look, I'm not going to change this guy's mine. So Noah,
you don't want to go out with her again? No, okay, Melissa,
I don't. I don't know that I fully understand your
position either. However, this guy, this guy doesn't believe.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
In what you do.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
She's just say I made the best man or woman
win her heart.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I hope you wit it. That's what I'm saying. But
it's supposed to.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Be a little more than that. I think, like real
connection and investment. But I don't just giving up my
men because I had some bad ones and now you're
just gonna try out women. No, doesn't believe in any
of this. Melissa is just trying things. I think maybe
we all need to figure some things out and then,
you know, maybe get back together at another time or
maybe never. But look, Melissa, Noah, thank you, thank you
(22:43):
both for this, whatever this was. And yeah, and I
wish you both the best of life.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Thank you,
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