May 18, 2026 • 24 mins
Find out why Brian got ghosted on an all new Waiting by the Phone! Plus, Judge Keke weighs in on church drama on an all new Keke's Court... Listen now!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I've never been left waiting by the phone. It's the
Fred Show. Hey Brian, good morning, Welcome to the program.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
How are you hey?
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Good morning?
Speaker 1 (00:08):
I did Okay, what's going on with this woman Carolina?
You said that you met her in the wild, and
now she's not responding to you.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
So tell me everything.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Tell me how you met, where you met, and about
for many interaction you've had, and where things are now.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Yeah, well you're right, what's the wild? It is actually
the FedEx of all places. Yeah, we kind of met
in the line and we headed off, and I don't know,
they felt like there was a pretty strong connection with us,
and so yeah, I got her number and we were
messaging a little bit and then out of nowhere, she
(00:44):
kind of just stopped. And I've been rereading the text,
and you know, in our conversation, I'm like.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I don't think I said anything wrong.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
So I'm just trying to figure out if something.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Went wrong or maybe she got a new number or
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Interesting, So this isn't example of you met in person
and talks about a date except the date never happened.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Interesting, And I would also I probably said this a
thousand times as we've done this. I would think that
in person meetings or in person sort of approaches or
whatever you want to call it would be more successful
than the blind dates that were going on, which basically
dating app dates are blind dates because you don't really
know what you're dealing with. But in this case, you
guys were able to sort of gauge chemistry and attractiveness
(01:26):
and things like that in person. So it's weird that
you would meet in person, she would agree to something
and then ghost you before you even do it, right.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Yeah, I thought we really headed off and you're totally right,
like we've already kind of done the first.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Daty kind of thing, you know, the blind so like,
I mean, not really we met and had a conversation.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
But yeah, okay, well let's play a song. We'll come
back in a couple of minutes. We'll call this woman Carolina.
You'll be on the phone as well, Brian, and you
can jump in at some point after we get you
some info. But the hope is that we can straighten
this out and set you guys up on another date
that we paid or I guess first date in this
case that we pay for.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
For sure, that'd be great. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Hey, Brian, Yeah, all right, welcome back. Let's call this
woman Carolina. You met in person at a FedEx of
all places, and you thought you had a great connection
and good chemistry, and you guys connected that way, and
I guess you exchanged numbers and you've been reaching out
to her trying to plan a first date and she's
not responding to you. So she gave you her number,
but now she's not calling you back or texting you,
(02:25):
and that's a little bit strange.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yeah, I haven't really heard from her.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Okay, well, let's see if I can figure out what's up.
We're gonna call her now. Good luck, Brian. Hello, Hi
is this Carolina? Yeah, Carolina, good morning. My name is
Fred and I'm calling from the Fred's Show, the morning
radio show, and the whole crew is here, and I
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have to that we are on the radio right now,
and I would need your permission to continue with the call.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Would you mind if we chat for a second?
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Wait?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
What?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Okay, Well, you can hang up anytime. I'm gonna take
that as a guest. But yeah, no, I totally understand
why this is weird. Yeah, yeah, no, I get it.
But we're calling on the radio. On behalf of a
guy named Brian who says he met you at fed
X and you gave him your number.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Do you remember this guy?
Speaker 6 (03:16):
Oh my god, oh my god.
Speaker 7 (03:21):
Yeah, okay, yeah, I did not give this guy my number.
Speaker 8 (03:29):
I didn't give.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Him, honestly, any indication that I ever wanted to talk
to him again.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember that guy.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Okay, So what he told us was that you met
at fed X and you guys talked, and he told
us that you had amazing connection in chemistry and that
you gave him your number, and he's been reaching out
and you haven't been responding.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
So none of that is true.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
Well, I mean part.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Of it's true.
Speaker 7 (03:53):
He continues to text me even though I'm not texting
him back, but I never gave him my number. I
honestly am trying to figure out how he got my number,
And the only explanation I can think of is that
you was standing behind me in line, so he overheard
me talking to the.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Like FedEx guy about like telling.
Speaker 7 (04:15):
The FedEx guy my phone number, or like to oh wow,
really creepy, and now he called the radio.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, cool.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Okay, So this guy did not give you his number
at all, and yet he's still been reaching out And
the reason that you're not responding is because you guys
didn't talk about that. No, okay, I forgot to mention
that Brian is here. Brian, So did she give you
her number or did you take her number from some
other resource and then just take it upon yourself to
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reach out to a person who is basically a stranger?
Speaker 5 (04:51):
All right?
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Well, when when we say like that, it sounds bad. Honestly,
Like the way that she gave me, the way that
she gave her number definitely made it sound like she.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Was like, you know, throwing it back.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Towards me and I was shooting my shot. Well, yeah,
when she said her number, she was kind of like, looks.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Back at me.
Speaker 8 (05:10):
She wants to write it down.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Yeah, she doesn't want her lofty points like what are
you talking about?
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I mean, you have to give your phone number when
you're shipping something like That's not She'd probably look back
because you wanted to know why you were breathing heavy
and writing it down like broll.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
I was like, listen, was it crazy for me to
shoot my shot?
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Is it crazy?
Speaker 8 (05:30):
Very crazy?
Speaker 5 (05:36):
No?
Speaker 9 (05:36):
Sho People who take and hold hold on an initiative
shooting yourself would have been Hey, Carolina, my name is Brian,
and I would like to you know.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Can I have your number? Can we go on a date,
Can we get a drink? Can we do something? And
then she says yes or no, and that's the end
of it. But that part of it apparently never happened
because you took it upon yourself to get her information
without her knowledge and then reach out to her and
then wonder why she's not responding because she didn't give
you permission.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Dude.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
She but she was responding it, and it felt implied
she was responding to me.
Speaker 7 (06:09):
I was responding until I figured out who you were,
and then once I figured out who you were, I
stopped responding because you're a stalker.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
I just I thought we had to I really, I
thought we hit it off.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
You can't get people's contact information by spying on them
and then reach out to them. That is very unlikely
to work and very likely to make somebody feel very uncomfortable.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
It wasn't like that, like she like I said, it
felt like she was giving me her number.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
But did she say, Brian, here is my phone number,
and I would like you to contact me, not exactly.
Speaker 7 (06:46):
Okay, I'm like wondering what other contact information you have
on me?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
And this is getting really creepy. Well, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
I mean, I think we're like neighbors or we live
close by, but like I looked it up, but I'm
not I'm coming over your house.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Right, that would be crazy? Oh my god, Yeah, don't
do that anymore. This isn't your information.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
She was giving the information to the person who works
at FedEx so she could send her return or whatever.
Like it wasn't for your edification, Like she wasn't.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
She looked back because she was scared.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
She looks, oh yeah, no, no, now, look, jail Carolina,
I think I know the answer. I'll ask the question.
I mean, you don't want to go out with this guy, right.
Speaker 7 (07:31):
No, I've already blocked his number during this call.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yeah, I mean, I think there's such a thing as
being a little bit resourceful. You know, maybe maybe I
don't know, you could slide into a DM on social media,
but you do that once and if you don't get
a response, that we're done with that. I mean, there
is such a thing as taking initiative. But that would
have in this case, would have been not stalking her
while she was giving her information to somebody trying to
help her with something. It would have been walking up
to her and asking her for permission. I thought that
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was implant Okay, it wasn't. So she's not interested. Brian,
don't do that anymore. And Carolina, thank you for answering
and for your time. And Brian, uh, don't do that anymore.
All right, I'm not convincing. It's not believable, but.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Oocha order it's a fresh show.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
It's Kiki's court. Oh rise, the honorable is here. Yes,
I am judge, Kiki. Give us the case.
Speaker 10 (08:31):
Please, all right, let's get into the courtroom. It says, hey, Kiki,
am I wrong for exposing my pastor? My family is
longtime members of our neighborhood church. As a kid, I
was forced to attend church, but as an adult, I
only visit from time to time. However, I've always kept
a friendly relationship with our pastor, and I've always had
a lot of respect for the guy until a couple
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of weeks ago when I ran into him in the
parking lot of an adult's only hotel, a place similar
to the spot that rhymes with hibberish.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Now, for those who don't know, this is a well,
Jason's parents knew. This is a bit of a local.
It has local lure floor lore and then that lure
like a fishing lure, like a lore. It's an adult
themed hotel, yes, and they have things like wolves, slides
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and waterfalls and mirrors and hot tubs in the rooms
and places where you could attach shirt and apparati ye
to the ceiling kind of thing. It's a bit of
a themed resort anyway. Okay, yeah, only for adults m hm.
Speaker 10 (09:40):
And he was obviously shook when he saw me because
he was getting into the car and next to him
was his wife's sister. My husband and I were so
stunned and I couldn't stop thinking about it.
Speaker 8 (09:52):
So I sent his wife a message on Facebook.
Speaker 10 (09:55):
Well, his wife announced their divorce at church on Sunday.
And now my mother mad at me, saying that I
ruined the church and our pastor's legacy.
Speaker 8 (10:04):
Am I wrong?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Oh my gosh?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Okay, well you gots are the jury eight five five
five nine three five contact the same number. I judge
Kiki would say.
Speaker 10 (10:13):
I am clutching my pearls girl, because I was about
to say what were you doing down to the adults
on the hotel? But she mentioned her husband, so no
judgment there. However, I don't think she's wrong. I don't
think she's wrong. You saw that man getting into a
car with his wife's sister at the hotel.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
At a hotel that he is.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
There is no other purpose to be there, There's no
you don't just accidentally book that on Travelocity or something like.
That is a place where you go for those sorts
of activities, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 10 (10:43):
You weren't having Bible study down at the place. So no,
I don't think you're wrong for telling his wife. I mean,
you saw what you saw, and it obviously was bothering you.
You couldn't stop thinking about it, and you send her
the message, and clearly there must have been something true because.
Speaker 8 (10:59):
They're getting a divorce.
Speaker 10 (11:00):
And I don't think it's right for your mom to
say that you ruined the pastor's legacy. He ruined his
own legacy, because what are you doing with your wife's sister.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
That's sloppy. Everyone knows.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Just go to a different city or something like you
know someplace I mean I or go to like a
like a place that's I mean, if if I see
you checking in, ye, if I see you checking in
to a hotel with someone who is not your wife
and it is not a sex themed hotel, I.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
May maybe there would be a.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Way that you could excuse or justify that, But there
is no way. There is no other purpose to be
at this place but for that. But here's where I'm kiki,
where I'm always can judge Kiki. Yes, where I'm always
a little little mixed up. Is I tend to be
someone who's like, I need to mind my business because again,
and I've said this many times, it is not my
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job to be Captain Sabaho. It is not my job
to call out every everything I see. It might be
an injustice. Sometimes I think I just need to I
need to stay in my lane and not ask too
many questions because I really don't know what I'm on
earthing or what I'm uncovering. Now, others would argue, no,
if you see something that you know is not right,
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then you should identify it call it out. And because
that's the right thing to do, I guess I sometimes
wonder is that the right thing to do? Is it
truly the right thing to do to call out everything
you see that might not smell right.
Speaker 8 (12:27):
Maybe not everything, not everything.
Speaker 10 (12:29):
I like this, especially because I'm assuming I don't know
this pastor.
Speaker 8 (12:33):
I have never been to his mask or whatever he's
up to. I've never been to it.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Now it's as we have an even bigger problem because
you shouldn't have a wife.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Then that's true.
Speaker 8 (12:43):
So I've never been to his service to services.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
However, I feel like he's probably preaching certain things a
certain lifestyle, my assumption, so why doesn't he live by it?
Speaker 8 (12:54):
And he got caught up? So I feel like it's
only right to say something.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
You know.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
So then we have an obligation then to identify or
sort of present to everyone else everything that we see
that we may not think is right, and we need
to tell everybody involved that it may not be right.
That's our responsibility.
Speaker 10 (13:15):
No, but in certain situations it is absolutely your responsibility.
If you see my man down to the hotel and
it's a woman in the car that's not me, you
absolutely have an obligation to tell me.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Okay, Now, what if what if you guys had like
a little open thing going on and then I just
blew you up, so I embarrassed you. I blew the
top off the whole thing, and now you've got a
mess that you wouldn't have had if I hadn't said anything.
Speaker 8 (13:42):
Well it's not a mess, yeah, if it's.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Open, but it could be because I exposed it now.
So now you're embarrassed because didn't want people to know.
Speaker 10 (13:50):
Well no, no, no, I would say thank you for
letting me know for it, and that's it.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
It might be different if it was my sister Akau,
if it's my pastor one who I don't necessarily know
all the ins and outs of.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I don't know if I'm getting involved in that, but
think about it.
Speaker 10 (14:04):
If you're a longtime member of this church. She mentioned
that her family has been in this church since they
were children, so she probably has a relationship with the
wife as well as the first line.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
So no, I get it, I get it. I'm just
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
I don't I don't like to get involved other people's
business because I don't know that business is complicated these days.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
Promise, if there's an arrangement it doesn't include siblings, I.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Emily, how you doing, Good.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Morning, good morning, good morning, made five five five nine
one one, three, five.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
You guys are the jury. So judge Kiki, I want
to make sure I got this right.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Essentially, a pastor was seen going into an adult themed
hotel with someone who was not his wife. Not only
not his wife, but his wife's sister.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
And so this person went and told the wife this
is what I saw. And now the pastor's getting a
divorced And now people are upset because it's like, you
didn't need to be involved.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
What do you think?
Speaker 6 (15:02):
I mean, baby, you gotta practice what you preach, get it, you.
Speaker 10 (15:06):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 8 (15:08):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 11 (15:11):
All right, I'm sitting here like you know what.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
And I also said, if you're in the public eye,
and I'm not saying obviously that was meant to.
Speaker 11 (15:17):
Be private, but I mean you're in the public right.
So if you're in the public, honey, it's a public's.
Speaker 10 (15:23):
Business now, and if the church is not about it,
you might not have a business anymore.
Speaker 11 (15:29):
That's what you're preached, That's all I gotta say.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yeah, I mean, if you're going to be sloppy, then
you know you can't be that sloppy yep.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Just messy, baby, just being mess.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
That's right, that's right, Emily, thank you have a good day.
Glad you called. No.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
I mean it is pretty sloppy, very like, what are
you doing?
Speaker 5 (15:46):
Right?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
And you left nothing to the imagination because you just
checked into the freakom hotel? Come on, so like again,
it's not even like I don't even know what. I
don't know how you could justify any hotel, but you
certainly can't justify that one.
Speaker 8 (15:57):
That's just butt naked. Don't go down the slide.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Now, you could check that place out by the hour,
so you know, like it don't. I don't think you
have to stay the whole night. I got as I
don't know that, but you know, I haven't been there
spokesperson in quite a while.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
But hey, Mark, how you doing?
Speaker 5 (16:15):
How y'all feel?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Mark Man? What is the deal here?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Like? Do you when you see something that you you
probably know is wrong, do you point it out to
everybody involved? Or do you look the other way and say,
I don't need to be involved in this.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
I look the other way because there has nothing to
do with me. I'm mind my business. So if the
test was out there, there's two step off, it's two
steps with me.
Speaker 10 (16:39):
What Yeah, I don't I don't know what have you
known the wife or you know, you've become friendly with
the wife, you go to the church, you wouldn't say anything.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Nope, because see it's worse to hear for somebody else,
to find out better on your own. So when you're
here for somebody else, that hurts more whether you find
out on your home. So that finally the momb.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
I actually think that's true.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Like, if someone you really love and care about exposes
something that you don't want people to know about, that
does make it a hundred times worse. Yeah, especially if
you're in this sort of uh you know it's not clergy,
but if you're in this religious space where you're really
probably not supposed to be involved in things like that,
but maybe you are. And it doesn't mean you're not
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doing I mean, I'm really trying to play the other
side here. I'm sure what he was doing was wrong,
but you're just dumb. You blew up the whole thing. Now,
the guy has no credibility at work. You know, he
doesn't have a wife anymore anybody if she didn't have
a sister, and as not your fault, but I mean
I don't know these things. Also contend to get turned
on you too.
Speaker 8 (17:39):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
And you know sometimes it's you expose it and somehow
you wind up being the bad guy because you exposed
the thing that you saw that doesn't look right to anybody.
Speaker 10 (17:47):
So you're saying like she should have text the wife
and said, come meet me down here at the hotel
real quick.
Speaker 8 (17:52):
I need you to see something.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
It's almost maybe likes covert.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah, maybe, I don't know, maybe tip her off somehow
in a way that doesn't that doesn't that you're not
in the sent at the center of it.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
Let us find out on all because the eventually is
going to come out. Now you got people worrying. I'm
almost happened when their time of money is going to
the hotel j hotel and a freaking hotel for that.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Hotel. Thank you, Mark, have a good day.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
And by the way, somebody did point out who apparently
has been to this establishment that they didn't pay for
the secret garage entrance. Apparently there's apparently they have a
parking garage at this adult hotel where if you pay
a little extra, you can access it through the garage
so that people don't see you walking through the parking
lot when you're not supposed to be doing what you're
supposed to be doing or not doing supposed to not
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be doing.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Hey, Chris, you're an actual clergyman.
Speaker 11 (18:46):
I am an actual clergyman. Good morning for the learn
on your radio show.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Now hold on, now, Chris, Are you a priest? Are
you a pastor? Or are you a deacon?
Speaker 2 (18:54):
What are you?
Speaker 8 (18:55):
Sounds like a joke.
Speaker 11 (18:56):
I'm a pastor, Yeah, okay, And I say that the woman.
The woman didn't do anything wrong. She had formed the wife.
But what she was all that she thought was questionable
in the behavior of the pastor. He owns the public
among this, and we do have a level of the
public accountability.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Uh.
Speaker 11 (19:17):
The wife could take that information and deal with her husband.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Uh.
Speaker 11 (19:21):
But but I'm sure that it's flock as the morality
about extra marital affairs, and they wouldn't want that as
a part of their shirt. They fur for a lot
of people. I say that I think she did the
right thing.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yeah, it would be bad for the fellowship. There's a
lot of bad things that could come from that. So
I suppose if you're if you're invested in the community.
Speaker 11 (19:44):
Yeah, yeah, And she didn't tell the entire congregation. She
told the one person that that would have a responsibility
to do with the wife. I think that was good,
good work.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah, okay, thank you, pastors, have a good day.
Speaker 8 (19:59):
I bless you. Yeah, windows, Yeah, how'd you find us? Pastor?
I'm curious.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Well, you know, I think he needs people to pray for,
so he probably you know, he locked in and was like,
it's gonna It's been a long time he's been praying,
and he'll be praying for a lot longer. I think, hey, Kelly, yes, now, Kelly,
I think I like this approach. So if you just
to sort of the synopsis here in Keiki's court, Pastor
spotted going into adult establishment with a woman who's not
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only not his wife, but his wife's sister, and this
this sort of resort quote unquote there's only only one
thing that you do there, and that's getting on. And
so you got to assume that's what they were doing.
You know, they weren't walking into hobby lobby, Okay, they
were walking into a place where anyway. So then she
goes and tells Pastor's wife. Now Pastor's wife is divorcing Pastor,
and we have a bit of a drama on our hands.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
What are you going to do though, Kelly?
Speaker 6 (20:52):
So I feel that thank you, sorry, I'm getting my duncan.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Multi we love that, go right ahead, Okay.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
I wouldn't go to the wife. I would go to
the pastor directly. I have done this, not with a pastor,
but I have caught somebody cheating and I didn't go
to their spouse. I went to them and I you
know you basically was like, listen, I caught you.
Speaker 11 (21:22):
No.
Speaker 6 (21:23):
I mean I wish, I wish I had that more
in me, but I don't. But I did just say, hey, listen,
I caught you blah blah blah, I saw you doing this,
blah blah blah, and I will go to your wife
if you don't. And he did and they are divorced,
but he went. And I would do that with the pastor,
especially if it was a pastor of mine.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
I would say, hey, listen, you're out here.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
You know you're throwing out what the commandments are and
what all this is and what we can't do and
shouldn't do, and blah blah blah, and this is what
you're doing, so.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
You need to do this.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I'd always liked that approach better, Kelly.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
I've always liked the approach of going to the person who's,
you know, look with whom you have the relationship, the
person who's committing the potential act, and being like, look,
I don't know what you're up to, but I saw it,
and you need to either have a great explanation or
fix it or both and then and.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Then and then give them a deadline. Yeah, And that
way you maybe don't have.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
To get it.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
Either way, you're blowing up somebody's life. But I think
that going I I think I would rather my husband
or whoever come to me and tell me what's going on,
then me finding out from a friend or a neighbor
or something else.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
And either way it sucks and it hurts.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yeah, but yeah, I agree, That's what I mean.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
It's like if you if you get this sense that like,
for example, I'm aware of situations where people have been
cheating and everybody knew what the person and then you
find out everybody knew what you and you're even more
hurt and embarrassed that way, as opposed to if you don't,
you don't we can skip that step and you could
just go right to the person responsible and be like,
fix this, and then maybe you don't have to be
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doubly just don't cheat?
Speaker 6 (23:05):
How about just leave the person that you obviously don't
love if you're gonna cheat on them, but then it'll
be oh, I do love them. I don't go on
for hours about this.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
Get it?
Speaker 6 (23:15):
Yeah, I know, I say, I say, go to the
person that you caught and just say, hey, listen, you
know this is what I saw, this is what I witnessed.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
You know, what are you going to do with it?
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Okay, they're not there, Have a good day, girl, Julia Duncan. Jason,
you're a man of the cloth, you are altar boy.
What would you do?
Speaker 4 (23:37):
I tend to not want to get involved with stuff,
so I probably would pretend I didn't.
Speaker 8 (23:41):
See it and keep it rolling.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
I think I'm channeling.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
I hate it.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
I hate to say I would do the same thing too,
and I'm a non confrontational person in general.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
But it's just I don't. I don't, I don't know,
I don't know, I don't know. Surely there's another explanation.
Speaker 10 (23:55):
I would have been at church on Sunday. I got
a testimony. Everybody, I have an announcement. Everybody look who
I saw.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
The place is called the Siberis, by the way, and
you can google whatever. I don't like him. I don't
like that that might implay something different. I don't hit
the Hibberris. Okay, yeah, yeah, right right, I found out.
I just said it rhymes are the thing we're all
not trying to get. But it's called the Siberis. I'm
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sure there's one in every town. You can google it.
You're right, they should pay us. But someone texted the Ciberis.
The room with the garage is the chalet, the highest
price room, and the garage is where it's at. Well,
I guess you get to pull into your own cross
closing doors and that nobody can see you going up
in there. I'm sure every town has a place like this,
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but you know, in the Midwest, this is the one
that people are known for. I guess all right, Well,
you guys are good people, and I chased it. I
will just look the other way. Protect we never saw anything.
I've never been left waiting by the phone. It's the
Fred Show. Hey Brian, good morning, Welcome to the program.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
How are you hey?
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Good morning?
Speaker 1 (00:08):
I did Okay, what's going on with this woman Carolina?
You said that you met her in the wild, and
now she's not responding to you.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
So tell me everything.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Tell me how you met, where you met, and about
for many interaction you've had, and where things are now.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Yeah, well you're right, what's the wild? It is actually
the FedEx of all places. Yeah, we kind of met
in the line and we headed off, and I don't know,
they felt like there was a pretty strong connection with us,
and so yeah, I got her number and we were
messaging a little bit and then out of nowhere, she
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kind of just stopped. And I've been rereading the text,
and you know, in our conversation, I'm like.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I don't think I said anything wrong.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
So I'm just trying to figure out if something.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Went wrong or maybe she got a new number or
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Interesting, So this isn't example of you met in person
and talks about a date except the date never happened.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Interesting, And I would also I probably said this a
thousand times as we've done this. I would think that
in person meetings or in person sort of approaches or
whatever you want to call it would be more successful
than the blind dates that were going on, which basically
dating app dates are blind dates because you don't really
know what you're dealing with. But in this case, you
guys were able to sort of gauge chemistry and attractiveness
(01:26):
and things like that in person. So it's weird that
you would meet in person, she would agree to something
and then ghost you before you even do it, right.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Yeah, I thought we really headed off and you're totally right,
like we've already kind of done the first.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Daty kind of thing, you know, the blind so like,
I mean, not really we met and had a conversation.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
But yeah, okay, well let's play a song. We'll come
back in a couple of minutes. We'll call this woman Carolina.
You'll be on the phone as well, Brian, and you
can jump in at some point after we get you
some info. But the hope is that we can straighten
this out and set you guys up on another date
that we paid or I guess first date in this
case that we pay for.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
For sure, that'd be great. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Hey, Brian, Yeah, all right, welcome back. Let's call this
woman Carolina. You met in person at a FedEx of
all places, and you thought you had a great connection
and good chemistry, and you guys connected that way, and
I guess you exchanged numbers and you've been reaching out
to her trying to plan a first date and she's
not responding to you. So she gave you her number,
but now she's not calling you back or texting you,
(02:25):
and that's a little bit strange.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yeah, I haven't really heard from her.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Okay, well, let's see if I can figure out what's up.
We're gonna call her now. Good luck, Brian. Hello, Hi
is this Carolina? Yeah, Carolina, good morning. My name is
Fred and I'm calling from the Fred's Show, the morning
radio show, and the whole crew is here, and I
(02:50):
have to that we are on the radio right now,
and I would need your permission to continue with the call.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Would you mind if we chat for a second?
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Wait?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
What?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Okay, Well, you can hang up anytime. I'm gonna take
that as a guest. But yeah, no, I totally understand
why this is weird. Yeah, yeah, no, I get it.
But we're calling on the radio. On behalf of a
guy named Brian who says he met you at fed
X and you gave him your number.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Do you remember this guy?
Speaker 6 (03:16):
Oh my god, oh my god.
Speaker 7 (03:21):
Yeah, okay, yeah, I did not give this guy my number.
Speaker 8 (03:29):
I didn't give.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Him, honestly, any indication that I ever wanted to talk
to him again.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember that guy.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Okay, So what he told us was that you met
at fed X and you guys talked, and he told
us that you had amazing connection in chemistry and that
you gave him your number, and he's been reaching out
and you haven't been responding.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
So none of that is true.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
Well, I mean part.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Of it's true.
Speaker 7 (03:53):
He continues to text me even though I'm not texting
him back, but I never gave him my number. I
honestly am trying to figure out how he got my number,
And the only explanation I can think of is that
you was standing behind me in line, so he overheard
me talking to the.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Like FedEx guy about like telling.
Speaker 7 (04:15):
The FedEx guy my phone number, or like to oh wow,
really creepy, and now he called the radio.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, cool.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Okay, So this guy did not give you his number
at all, and yet he's still been reaching out And
the reason that you're not responding is because you guys
didn't talk about that. No, okay, I forgot to mention
that Brian is here. Brian, So did she give you
her number or did you take her number from some
other resource and then just take it upon yourself to
(04:48):
reach out to a person who is basically a stranger?
Speaker 5 (04:51):
All right?
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Well, when when we say like that, it sounds bad. Honestly,
Like the way that she gave me, the way that
she gave her number definitely made it sound like she.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Was like, you know, throwing it back.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Towards me and I was shooting my shot. Well, yeah,
when she said her number, she was kind of like, looks.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Back at me.
Speaker 8 (05:10):
She wants to write it down.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Yeah, she doesn't want her lofty points like what are
you talking about?
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I mean, you have to give your phone number when
you're shipping something like That's not She'd probably look back
because you wanted to know why you were breathing heavy
and writing it down like broll.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
I was like, listen, was it crazy for me to
shoot my shot?
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Is it crazy?
Speaker 8 (05:30):
Very crazy?
Speaker 5 (05:36):
No?
Speaker 9 (05:36):
Sho People who take and hold hold on an initiative
shooting yourself would have been Hey, Carolina, my name is Brian,
and I would like to you know.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Can I have your number? Can we go on a date,
Can we get a drink? Can we do something? And
then she says yes or no, and that's the end
of it. But that part of it apparently never happened
because you took it upon yourself to get her information
without her knowledge and then reach out to her and
then wonder why she's not responding because she didn't give
you permission.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Dude.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
She but she was responding it, and it felt implied
she was responding to me.
Speaker 7 (06:09):
I was responding until I figured out who you were,
and then once I figured out who you were, I
stopped responding because you're a stalker.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
I just I thought we had to I really, I
thought we hit it off.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
You can't get people's contact information by spying on them
and then reach out to them. That is very unlikely
to work and very likely to make somebody feel very uncomfortable.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
It wasn't like that, like she like I said, it
felt like she was giving me her number.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
But did she say, Brian, here is my phone number,
and I would like you to contact me, not exactly.
Speaker 7 (06:46):
Okay, I'm like wondering what other contact information you have
on me?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
And this is getting really creepy. Well, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
I mean, I think we're like neighbors or we live
close by, but like I looked it up, but I'm
not I'm coming over your house.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Right, that would be crazy? Oh my god, Yeah, don't
do that anymore. This isn't your information.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
She was giving the information to the person who works
at FedEx so she could send her return or whatever.
Like it wasn't for your edification, Like she wasn't.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
She looked back because she was scared.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
She looks, oh yeah, no, no, now, look, jail Carolina,
I think I know the answer. I'll ask the question.
I mean, you don't want to go out with this guy, right.
Speaker 7 (07:31):
No, I've already blocked his number during this call.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yeah, I mean, I think there's such a thing as
being a little bit resourceful. You know, maybe maybe I
don't know, you could slide into a DM on social media,
but you do that once and if you don't get
a response, that we're done with that. I mean, there
is such a thing as taking initiative. But that would
have in this case, would have been not stalking her
while she was giving her information to somebody trying to
help her with something. It would have been walking up
to her and asking her for permission. I thought that
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was implant Okay, it wasn't. So she's not interested. Brian,
don't do that anymore. And Carolina, thank you for answering
and for your time. And Brian, uh, don't do that anymore.
All right, I'm not convincing. It's not believable, but.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Oocha order it's a fresh show.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
It's Kiki's court. Oh rise, the honorable is here. Yes,
I am judge, Kiki. Give us the case.
Speaker 10 (08:31):
Please, all right, let's get into the courtroom. It says, hey, Kiki,
am I wrong for exposing my pastor? My family is
longtime members of our neighborhood church. As a kid, I
was forced to attend church, but as an adult, I
only visit from time to time. However, I've always kept
a friendly relationship with our pastor, and I've always had
a lot of respect for the guy until a couple
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of weeks ago when I ran into him in the
parking lot of an adult's only hotel, a place similar
to the spot that rhymes with hibberish.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Now, for those who don't know, this is a well,
Jason's parents knew. This is a bit of a local.
It has local lure floor lore and then that lure
like a fishing lure, like a lore. It's an adult
themed hotel, yes, and they have things like wolves, slides
(09:26):
and waterfalls and mirrors and hot tubs in the rooms
and places where you could attach shirt and apparati ye
to the ceiling kind of thing. It's a bit of
a themed resort anyway. Okay, yeah, only for adults m hm.
Speaker 10 (09:40):
And he was obviously shook when he saw me because
he was getting into the car and next to him
was his wife's sister. My husband and I were so
stunned and I couldn't stop thinking about it.
Speaker 8 (09:52):
So I sent his wife a message on Facebook.
Speaker 10 (09:55):
Well, his wife announced their divorce at church on Sunday.
And now my mother mad at me, saying that I
ruined the church and our pastor's legacy.
Speaker 8 (10:04):
Am I wrong?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Oh my gosh?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Okay, well you gots are the jury eight five five
five nine three five contact the same number. I judge
Kiki would say.
Speaker 10 (10:13):
I am clutching my pearls girl, because I was about
to say what were you doing down to the adults
on the hotel? But she mentioned her husband, so no
judgment there. However, I don't think she's wrong. I don't
think she's wrong. You saw that man getting into a
car with his wife's sister at the hotel.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
At a hotel that he is.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
There is no other purpose to be there, There's no
you don't just accidentally book that on Travelocity or something like.
That is a place where you go for those sorts
of activities, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 10 (10:43):
You weren't having Bible study down at the place. So no,
I don't think you're wrong for telling his wife. I mean,
you saw what you saw, and it obviously was bothering you.
You couldn't stop thinking about it, and you send her
the message, and clearly there must have been something true because.
Speaker 8 (10:59):
They're getting a divorce.
Speaker 10 (11:00):
And I don't think it's right for your mom to
say that you ruined the pastor's legacy. He ruined his
own legacy, because what are you doing with your wife's sister.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
That's sloppy. Everyone knows.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Just go to a different city or something like you
know someplace I mean I or go to like a
like a place that's I mean, if if I see
you checking in, ye, if I see you checking in
to a hotel with someone who is not your wife
and it is not a sex themed hotel, I.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
May maybe there would be a.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Way that you could excuse or justify that, But there
is no way. There is no other purpose to be
at this place but for that. But here's where I'm kiki,
where I'm always can judge Kiki. Yes, where I'm always
a little little mixed up. Is I tend to be
someone who's like, I need to mind my business because again,
and I've said this many times, it is not my
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job to be Captain Sabaho. It is not my job
to call out every everything I see. It might be
an injustice. Sometimes I think I just need to I
need to stay in my lane and not ask too
many questions because I really don't know what I'm on
earthing or what I'm uncovering. Now, others would argue, no,
if you see something that you know is not right,
(12:15):
then you should identify it call it out. And because
that's the right thing to do, I guess I sometimes
wonder is that the right thing to do? Is it
truly the right thing to do to call out everything
you see that might not smell right.
Speaker 8 (12:27):
Maybe not everything, not everything.
Speaker 10 (12:29):
I like this, especially because I'm assuming I don't know
this pastor.
Speaker 8 (12:33):
I have never been to his mask or whatever he's
up to. I've never been to it.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Now it's as we have an even bigger problem because
you shouldn't have a wife.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Then that's true.
Speaker 8 (12:43):
So I've never been to his service to services.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
However, I feel like he's probably preaching certain things a
certain lifestyle, my assumption, so why doesn't he live by it?
Speaker 8 (12:54):
And he got caught up? So I feel like it's
only right to say something.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
You know.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
So then we have an obligation then to identify or
sort of present to everyone else everything that we see
that we may not think is right, and we need
to tell everybody involved that it may not be right.
That's our responsibility.
Speaker 10 (13:15):
No, but in certain situations it is absolutely your responsibility.
If you see my man down to the hotel and
it's a woman in the car that's not me, you
absolutely have an obligation to tell me.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Okay, Now, what if what if you guys had like
a little open thing going on and then I just
blew you up, so I embarrassed you. I blew the
top off the whole thing, and now you've got a
mess that you wouldn't have had if I hadn't said anything.
Speaker 8 (13:42):
Well it's not a mess, yeah, if it's.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Open, but it could be because I exposed it now.
So now you're embarrassed because didn't want people to know.
Speaker 10 (13:50):
Well no, no, no, I would say thank you for
letting me know for it, and that's it.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
It might be different if it was my sister Akau,
if it's my pastor one who I don't necessarily know
all the ins and outs of.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I don't know if I'm getting involved in that, but
think about it.
Speaker 10 (14:04):
If you're a longtime member of this church. She mentioned
that her family has been in this church since they
were children, so she probably has a relationship with the
wife as well as the first line.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
So no, I get it, I get it. I'm just
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
I don't I don't like to get involved other people's
business because I don't know that business is complicated these days.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
Promise, if there's an arrangement it doesn't include siblings, I.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Emily, how you doing, Good.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Morning, good morning, good morning, made five five five nine
one one, three, five.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
You guys are the jury. So judge Kiki, I want
to make sure I got this right.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Essentially, a pastor was seen going into an adult themed
hotel with someone who was not his wife. Not only
not his wife, but his wife's sister.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
And so this person went and told the wife this
is what I saw. And now the pastor's getting a
divorced And now people are upset because it's like, you
didn't need to be involved.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
What do you think?
Speaker 6 (15:02):
I mean, baby, you gotta practice what you preach, get it, you.
Speaker 10 (15:06):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 8 (15:08):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 11 (15:11):
All right, I'm sitting here like you know what.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
And I also said, if you're in the public eye,
and I'm not saying obviously that was meant to.
Speaker 11 (15:17):
Be private, but I mean you're in the public right.
So if you're in the public, honey, it's a public's.
Speaker 10 (15:23):
Business now, and if the church is not about it,
you might not have a business anymore.
Speaker 11 (15:29):
That's what you're preached, That's all I gotta say.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yeah, I mean, if you're going to be sloppy, then
you know you can't be that sloppy yep.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Just messy, baby, just being mess.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
That's right, that's right, Emily, thank you have a good day.
Glad you called. No.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
I mean it is pretty sloppy, very like, what are
you doing?
Speaker 5 (15:46):
Right?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
And you left nothing to the imagination because you just
checked into the freakom hotel? Come on, so like again,
it's not even like I don't even know what. I
don't know how you could justify any hotel, but you
certainly can't justify that one.
Speaker 8 (15:57):
That's just butt naked. Don't go down the slide.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Now, you could check that place out by the hour,
so you know, like it don't. I don't think you
have to stay the whole night. I got as I
don't know that, but you know, I haven't been there
spokesperson in quite a while.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
But hey, Mark, how you doing?
Speaker 5 (16:15):
How y'all feel?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Mark Man? What is the deal here?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Like? Do you when you see something that you you
probably know is wrong, do you point it out to
everybody involved? Or do you look the other way and say,
I don't need to be involved in this.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
I look the other way because there has nothing to
do with me. I'm mind my business. So if the
test was out there, there's two step off, it's two
steps with me.
Speaker 10 (16:39):
What Yeah, I don't I don't know what have you
known the wife or you know, you've become friendly with
the wife, you go to the church, you wouldn't say anything.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Nope, because see it's worse to hear for somebody else,
to find out better on your own. So when you're
here for somebody else, that hurts more whether you find
out on your home. So that finally the momb.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
I actually think that's true.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Like, if someone you really love and care about exposes
something that you don't want people to know about, that
does make it a hundred times worse. Yeah, especially if
you're in this sort of uh you know it's not clergy,
but if you're in this religious space where you're really
probably not supposed to be involved in things like that,
but maybe you are. And it doesn't mean you're not
(17:20):
doing I mean, I'm really trying to play the other
side here. I'm sure what he was doing was wrong,
but you're just dumb. You blew up the whole thing. Now,
the guy has no credibility at work. You know, he
doesn't have a wife anymore anybody if she didn't have
a sister, and as not your fault, but I mean
I don't know these things. Also contend to get turned
on you too.
Speaker 8 (17:39):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
And you know sometimes it's you expose it and somehow
you wind up being the bad guy because you exposed
the thing that you saw that doesn't look right to anybody.
Speaker 10 (17:47):
So you're saying like she should have text the wife
and said, come meet me down here at the hotel
real quick.
Speaker 8 (17:52):
I need you to see something.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
It's almost maybe likes covert.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah, maybe, I don't know, maybe tip her off somehow
in a way that doesn't that doesn't that you're not
in the sent at the center of it.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
Let us find out on all because the eventually is
going to come out. Now you got people worrying. I'm
almost happened when their time of money is going to
the hotel j hotel and a freaking hotel for that.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Hotel. Thank you, Mark, have a good day.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
And by the way, somebody did point out who apparently
has been to this establishment that they didn't pay for
the secret garage entrance. Apparently there's apparently they have a
parking garage at this adult hotel where if you pay
a little extra, you can access it through the garage
so that people don't see you walking through the parking
lot when you're not supposed to be doing what you're
supposed to be doing or not doing supposed to not
(18:41):
be doing.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Hey, Chris, you're an actual clergyman.
Speaker 11 (18:46):
I am an actual clergyman. Good morning for the learn
on your radio show.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Now hold on, now, Chris, Are you a priest? Are
you a pastor? Or are you a deacon?
Speaker 2 (18:54):
What are you?
Speaker 8 (18:55):
Sounds like a joke.
Speaker 11 (18:56):
I'm a pastor, Yeah, okay, And I say that the woman.
The woman didn't do anything wrong. She had formed the wife.
But what she was all that she thought was questionable
in the behavior of the pastor. He owns the public
among this, and we do have a level of the
public accountability.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Uh.
Speaker 11 (19:17):
The wife could take that information and deal with her husband.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
Uh.
Speaker 11 (19:21):
But but I'm sure that it's flock as the morality
about extra marital affairs, and they wouldn't want that as
a part of their shirt. They fur for a lot
of people. I say that I think she did the
right thing.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yeah, it would be bad for the fellowship. There's a
lot of bad things that could come from that. So
I suppose if you're if you're invested in the community.
Speaker 11 (19:44):
Yeah, yeah, And she didn't tell the entire congregation. She
told the one person that that would have a responsibility
to do with the wife. I think that was good,
good work.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Yeah, okay, thank you, pastors, have a good day.
Speaker 8 (19:59):
I bless you. Yeah, windows, Yeah, how'd you find us? Pastor?
I'm curious.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Well, you know, I think he needs people to pray for,
so he probably you know, he locked in and was like,
it's gonna It's been a long time he's been praying,
and he'll be praying for a lot longer. I think, hey, Kelly, yes, now, Kelly,
I think I like this approach. So if you just
to sort of the synopsis here in Keiki's court, Pastor
spotted going into adult establishment with a woman who's not
(20:27):
only not his wife, but his wife's sister, and this
this sort of resort quote unquote there's only only one
thing that you do there, and that's getting on. And
so you got to assume that's what they were doing.
You know, they weren't walking into hobby lobby, Okay, they
were walking into a place where anyway. So then she
goes and tells Pastor's wife. Now Pastor's wife is divorcing Pastor,
and we have a bit of a drama on our hands.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
What are you going to do though, Kelly?
Speaker 6 (20:52):
So I feel that thank you, sorry, I'm getting my duncan.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Multi we love that, go right ahead, Okay.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
I wouldn't go to the wife. I would go to
the pastor directly. I have done this, not with a pastor,
but I have caught somebody cheating and I didn't go
to their spouse. I went to them and I you
know you basically was like, listen, I caught you.
Speaker 11 (21:22):
No.
Speaker 6 (21:23):
I mean I wish, I wish I had that more
in me, but I don't. But I did just say, hey, listen,
I caught you blah blah blah, I saw you doing this,
blah blah blah, and I will go to your wife
if you don't. And he did and they are divorced,
but he went. And I would do that with the pastor,
especially if it was a pastor of mine.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
I would say, hey, listen, you're out here.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
You know you're throwing out what the commandments are and
what all this is and what we can't do and
shouldn't do, and blah blah blah, and this is what
you're doing, so.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
You need to do this.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I'd always liked that approach better, Kelly.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
I've always liked the approach of going to the person who's,
you know, look with whom you have the relationship, the
person who's committing the potential act, and being like, look,
I don't know what you're up to, but I saw it,
and you need to either have a great explanation or
fix it or both and then and.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Then and then give them a deadline. Yeah, And that
way you maybe don't have.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
To get it.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
Either way, you're blowing up somebody's life. But I think
that going I I think I would rather my husband
or whoever come to me and tell me what's going on,
then me finding out from a friend or a neighbor
or something else.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
And either way it sucks and it hurts.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yeah, but yeah, I agree, That's what I mean.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
It's like if you if you get this sense that like,
for example, I'm aware of situations where people have been
cheating and everybody knew what the person and then you
find out everybody knew what you and you're even more
hurt and embarrassed that way, as opposed to if you don't,
you don't we can skip that step and you could
just go right to the person responsible and be like,
fix this, and then maybe you don't have to be
(22:59):
doubly just don't cheat?
Speaker 6 (23:05):
How about just leave the person that you obviously don't
love if you're gonna cheat on them, but then it'll
be oh, I do love them. I don't go on
for hours about this.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
Get it?
Speaker 6 (23:15):
Yeah, I know, I say, I say, go to the
person that you caught and just say, hey, listen, you
know this is what I saw, this is what I witnessed.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
You know, what are you going to do with it?
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Okay, they're not there, Have a good day, girl, Julia Duncan. Jason,
you're a man of the cloth, you are altar boy.
What would you do?
Speaker 4 (23:37):
I tend to not want to get involved with stuff,
so I probably would pretend I didn't.
Speaker 8 (23:41):
See it and keep it rolling.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
I think I'm channeling.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
I hate it.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
I hate to say I would do the same thing too,
and I'm a non confrontational person in general.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
But it's just I don't. I don't, I don't know,
I don't know, I don't know. Surely there's another explanation.
Speaker 10 (23:55):
I would have been at church on Sunday. I got
a testimony. Everybody, I have an announcement. Everybody look who
I saw.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
The place is called the Siberis, by the way, and
you can google whatever. I don't like him. I don't
like that that might implay something different. I don't hit
the Hibberris. Okay, yeah, yeah, right right, I found out.
I just said it rhymes are the thing we're all
not trying to get. But it's called the Siberis. I'm
(24:24):
sure there's one in every town. You can google it.
You're right, they should pay us. But someone texted the Ciberis.
The room with the garage is the chalet, the highest
price room, and the garage is where it's at. Well,
I guess you get to pull into your own cross
closing doors and that nobody can see you going up
in there. I'm sure every town has a place like this,
(24:47):
but you know, in the Midwest, this is the one
that people are known for. I guess all right, Well,
you guys are good people, and I chased it. I
will just look the other way. Protect we never saw anything.
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