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Speaker 1 (00:30):
Order a Fresh show. It's all right, the honorable kik Elikue.
Judge Kiki.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Yes, let's get in the courtroom. The gabble has been hit,
all right.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
It says, hey, kikey am I wrong for dating my
best friends X after.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
She dumped him.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
My name is Danielle and I've been best friends with
Teagan since childhood. Teagan started dating Carter in high school
and they were on and off for eight years. However,
last year, out of nowhere, Teagan said she was no
longer attracted to Carter. She dumped him and said she
wanted to experience life who.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Her exact words.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Were, if he dates someone else tomorrow, good for him.
So Carter took the break up really hard, and he
started reaching out to me because he felt like I
knew them both really well. I was just being nice
and supporting him until we accidentally slept together.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Okay, after that, very supportive process.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
That Okay, After that, we realized that we had real
chemistry and we started secretly dating. A few months later.
Now we're expecting a baby. So last week I finally
broke the news to Teagan, and to my surprise, she
lost it on me. She accused me of waiting years
for my turn with him, and I had to quickly
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remind her that she dumped him. Now she's telling everyone
that I trapped Tim and stole her future, and half
of our friends won't talk to me.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Am I wrong stole her future?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
She dumped him?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
She did dump him, she did, however for it. What
what are you doing with my ex? Like that should
be off limits?
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Girl called one on one like there are a lot
of people in this world.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
How did you end up with my man? I mean,
well my ex?
Speaker 4 (02:23):
You know, Yes, I gave him back to the streets,
but that didn't mean for you to go have a
baby with him.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
She's in the streets and running a baby.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Wait what was her quote again? He can date anybody
he wants, No, she said, if he.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Dates someone else tomorrow, good for him. But that doesn't
mean I want him to date my best friend somebody.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Oh no, he's the loyalty in the room here. That's
absolutely insane.
Speaker 6 (02:48):
It's like that's to call the cops, report her right online,
a smear campaign to cancel her.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Hold on, hold on, you got jury in the room
and of course at home eatee five five five nine
one three five. I would not like this at all.
But and if it was a very good close friend
of mine, then I guess I would hope that they
could see from my perspective why the relationship didn't work out,
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and maybe that would not be something they would want
to engage in. And and yes, there is such a
thing as loyalty. I get that. But like you do
run the risk when you dump someone of them meeting
someone you know and dating them.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
I mean, you don't.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Unfortunately, when you break up with someone, you don't get
to control their actions for the rest of their life.
And and yeah, you may have lost a friend in
the deal, but like, I don't know that anyone actually
did anything wrong.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Here, Fred, I am shocked.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Now I wouldn't mind. You don't have to like it, Kiki.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
There's a difference between not liking something someone did and
it being wrong.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Well that's true, but you know, if I don't like
it is wrong.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
They've been friend since childhood, So yes, if you if
you end up with the girl that we had science
class with, okay, but my childhood best friend. You're dating
my ex and we were together for eight years?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
What are you doing?
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Like I feel like, come on, girl, there has to
be some type of loyalty. And now you're having this
man's baby, Like what.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
I mean, it's that great?
Speaker 5 (04:22):
She said she wasn't attracted to him anymore, Like what
does it matter? Maybe they're meant to be together and
it started in high school. Like I know, there are
exceptions to the rule, but like high school relationships, like
come on, oh.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
My god, I when you just don't get to control
people once you break up with them, unfortunately, you know.
I mean, yeah, I think it's not ideal, but like
you don't get to say if if you don't want
someone anymore and they want someone that you know, then
that's their right. And and I look, I think if
the girl were like, well, we should still be best
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friends or I don't know why you have an issue
with it.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I mean she can have an issue with it. But
like I'm you know, sir, how you doing, Sarah, Welcome
to the show. Good morning, good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 7 (05:09):
Man. That's that's a number that's negative. Ain't no way,
that's cool, Like that's that's kind of like a guy
go to Now if she was mine, bro, come on
it we out limits. We're not talking no more.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
But listen to your listen to you man, Like like
it's this ownership things like you don't want to be
with someone, why do you care if somebody else does?
Speaker 7 (05:37):
Yeah, but if you my partner, if you my bro
to go behind you, I cannot do that.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
That's look, I'm a I'm a loyal guy.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I Am not going to go out and date my
best friend's you know, ex wife or whatever. But I
think it says something about the friendship, and it might
say something about you if some one chooses your ex
over you.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Why are we not flipping this at all?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Why are we not looking at this from the other
perspective for one second. What if what if this girl
was kind of nutty the whole time, and like it
came down to, look, i'm your friend, but I don't
I don't like your behavior here, and I think he
was a decent guy. And then what if they go
off and have a nice life together. Yes, you lost
a friend in the process, but it's your life.
Speaker 7 (06:24):
I mean, it's true. Everybody got their own life to live.
I'm not taking out of this. But at the end of.
Speaker 8 (06:28):
The day, we played in it shame together, right, no flipping,
no turning. Now we're gonna always go right right, that's right.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yeah, I hear. No, I thank you, sir, have a
good day. I think.
Speaker 9 (06:52):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
And from the other side, I mean, I'll advocate the
other perspective for just a second. Maybe this person was
not that great of a friend anyway, clearly, you know,
maybe maybe maybe this person was not really your your
patna as as sir would say. And and so you
know what, that person's gone, This person that wasn't all
that loyal to you is gone. Let them have it,
Let them, Paulina, let them.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Hey, mel Robbins, I'm on this one.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
I can't let.
Speaker 9 (07:21):
Them because at the end of the day, like I
have history with this person, and.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Then that's my best friend. There's enough fish in the sea, Okay,
there's enough out there. You don't have to take mine,
even though he's not mine no more.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, people are really upset it. It's the idea of
controlling other people that I don't like.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
It's it.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I mean, I would not like this person that's not yours,
and that's what that person is. Not my friend, that person,
that person should not be. We should not be as
invested in one another as we are if they're going
to do if they're going to do that. But I
really don't like the idea that everybody I've ever touched
is off limits to anyone I've ever met.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
I just I don't I don't like. I don't like
the way that feels.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
This is your childhood best friend, okay, And first of all,
when we broke up, you shouldn't even be talking to
him anymore after that?
Speaker 9 (08:04):
What is she.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Consoling him for?
Speaker 4 (08:06):
I hear, I knew, well, what the hell all my
friends know when they break up with that man? I
know I don't know him. He can't run up to
me in the streets like no We're good. I don't
even talk to you.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
After lindsay how are you doing? Lindsay good?
Speaker 7 (08:19):
How are you guys?
Speaker 10 (08:20):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (08:20):
What did you want to say?
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Welcome? Do you take it away Kiki's court? But this
is a situation of a best friend winding up with
an ex that that was discarded. I think we all
agree that, Yeah, the primary friend discarded this person, and
the best friend wound up having a kid with him.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
What do you think?
Speaker 9 (08:36):
I think it's it's not right girl code one on one.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
I actually was in the same situation h after I
graduated high school, and I am no longer best friends
with her.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I'm sorry, Wow, are they still together?
Speaker 9 (08:49):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (08:49):
No, No, it was a fling exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
But I keep coming back to you that's very hurtful.
But like, this is a person that you I guess,
let's just let's say that this person, I mean, so,
she's not that good of a friend to you anyway,
and she wants to be with your Actually you don't like,
so goodbye to both of them, I guess. I mean,
I'm not saying it doesn't hurt, But what I'm saying
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to you is, what is the point in dwelling on it?
Or harboring any sort of like long term. She's not
gonna be in your life anymore either way, So what
difference does it make?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Right?
Speaker 6 (09:23):
But it's so hurtful because I was your best friend
and then you're wondering, Okay, that whole time I was
in a relationship with him, was she having feelings for
him that whole time?
Speaker 9 (09:33):
Or did she find him attractive?
Speaker 6 (09:35):
Like then you're wondering all these things, and then all
the trust is just not there anymore.
Speaker 9 (09:39):
You're just and that that breaks your heart.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
I'm not saying it doesn't hurt.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
But what I'm saying is do I have a right
to control what happens after I break up with somebody?
And what I can control is whether I want those
two people in my life anymore, and apparently I don't,
So that sucks. I think there's I think there are
two things that could be true here. But thank you
so much. Have a good day, Jessica, or excuse me,
Lindsay was good, but Jessica, we have to talk.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Jessica. Hi, Jessica, Hi, Hi, I'm Jessica.
Speaker 9 (10:08):
I have very strong feelings about this topic today.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yeah, what do you think? Yeah?
Speaker 9 (10:16):
So I had a best friend who I knew since
I was five years old and throughout high school and college.
She dated three of my boyfriends that I dated within
months four times, so so one of them was more
than once. I kind of disconnected with her. I was
as an adult. I was like, oh, let's let's be
friends again. And then my now husband, and then she
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kissed him on at one point as well too. When
I reconnected with her and we are not friends anymore.
So no, I think that that is it's a completely
colored first for.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Her, and I'm sure that happened to you, But can
we connect? Can we at least acknowledge that your situation
is different from this one, And it's clearly this person
who you were friends with was going for you, going
for the jugular, I mean, repeatedly going after anything.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Yeah, guy you dated.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Is there not a possibility that this person that these
two were meant to be together, these other two we're
not talking about. She's not sloppy seconds every single time.
I mean, that's like, that's some weird obsession with you
kind of stuff. But is it absolutely possible that in
the course of knowing that couple, that they realized that
they were better off together and By the way, the
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guy didn't even do it.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
He got dumped. It's not like he left her for
the other girl.
Speaker 9 (11:29):
I just I think two things can be can be
right at the same time.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah, I think we agree on that. I think we
agree on that. I think we are on that.
Speaker 9 (11:37):
No, I think more so in my situation was my
friend she just didn't necessarily have the confidence to go
and find anybody that she was that she could date
or anything like that. So I don't know if that
was the same situation. It's just more of a comfort
of I know, like I know your boyfriends, so like
I already know them someone, I might as well date them,
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you know.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Goes to that saying thank you, Jess, have a great day.
Speaker 9 (12:05):
Yeah, you two friend, thank you.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
A lot of a lot of opinions here, Emily. Emily,
you say everybody's wrong.
Speaker 10 (12:12):
Oh my god, I didn't know that's how polarized in
this list. Okay, yeah, so I was wrong, because here's
the thing, you guys are right. That one the girl
who broke up with the first girl, it sounds like
she kind of had moved on already when she did
break up with him, so like, yeah, she doesn't can't
control him. However, in some aspect of girl code, I
think that the friend should have said something before she
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was pregnant with his child, because now she's just saying
something because she's the other friends going to obviously see
she's pregnant. So like I feel like that would have
been more respectful and probably she probably had such a
strong reaction because she then you know, spiral too. Well,
how long has this been going on? You know, she
obviously knows they've been keeping secrets. In regardless of if
you know he's inner life or not, it's still someone
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you know you cared about for power long and that
hurts knowing that their big things from you. But yeah,
everyone's wrong.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Yeah no, this isn't I'm not arguing this is great. Again.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
My only real issue here is this whole thing where
it's I own I own you, Uh, no one, no
one else can be with that person. I know because
because I said so, she.
Speaker 10 (13:17):
Does not own him. She definitely cannot dictate if they
are together or not. I do think she has the
right to feel hurt. She does not have a right
to dictate they they are break up or they're together.
She or you know, she does not get have an
opinion on that because she had very much given him
up already.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
I agree with it. I think you're right.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Every you know what, Everybody's wrong case closes, everybody recording?
Speaker 10 (13:39):
Can that be my found it? Can I get a
recording of that?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Fread Everybody's Wrong case clothes. You're welcome to that copyright.
You a good day, Hey, I don't say it a
whole a whole lot.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
You're right.
Speaker 10 (13:55):
I agree, Thank you all so much.
Speaker 9 (13:57):
Have a good one.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
She really wanted to soak that one in s