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Speaker 1 (00:00):
How many of you went to sleep away camp? You
know I did? I did?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (00:04):
I wanted to you, Yeah I did.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
But then I got picked up. Why did you get
picked up?
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Because I was one of those attachment kids that had
attachment issues, Like once the sun went down, it was like,
come get me, you know, so the next morning I
got picked up.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Now that surprises me a little bit about you, because
you're such a boss b you know, as a grown up. Okays,
Their families here today contradict everything, Isaiah. No, I feel
many people. I feel like people grow into themselves. But
I guess I'm surprised there was ever a phase in
(00:41):
your life where you or anything other than just assertive
and just out here now and everything.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
God, No, I was you guys know, I said in
fear in this building. For seven years, I wouldn't even
turn in a demo, like I'm really a punk.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I just gets win, died all the win, did all
the I guess I guess outward confidence come? Where did
that come from? When did that happen? I don't did
you just wake up one day and you like screw it.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I started seeing people with way less talent do more things,
and that kind of gave me. I'm being honest, like
people who had like no even thought of doing it.
They just walke up one days I want to be
in the radio and they got a radio show. I
was like, wow, I can do that. So then that's
kind of what gave me confidence. But then outside of that,
I was a real Like my parents couldn't even leave
(01:26):
me in the car to go pay for the gas
they had to get Yeah, I'm learning this surprises me.
You had to get me out. It's some good parenting
to take you in. Yeah, leave your kid in the
car like that. Yeah, okay, they came back like dang,
(01:49):
she's still here.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
It was like, but he leavest hammers swift on when
he does it, So I thought, I.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Think it was okay. Usually I usually kind of fluck
to teases up. Some people hang around.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I wasn't serious. But anyway, I don't know why we're
still talking about that. No, my point about I was
that way though, like I was the guy that didn't
as a very famous story. I did not want to
go to Sleep Awake Camp. Oh yeah, but I'm still
a punk and everybody knows it. So it's like there's
nothing surprising about me.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I went for four weeks at a time.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Four weeks you had a time in your life or
where you said, I mean, my parents have been passing
me back and forth since I was one and a half.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
So oh a time was Yeah, So that's where it
all comes from.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
It like it comes from loss, it comes from it
comes from trauma. Like I'm I'm I was a big WZ.
But I was. I guess I for some reason there
was so much like disruption in my childhood life that
I felt like being away was like a punishment or something. Yeah,
being away from everybody else with a punishment. But I
bring this up because for everybody else, apparently sleep away
(02:58):
camp was like a transformational time like the other day,
And I want to know if this is true for
you eight five five five three five, because the other
day I.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Was talking to somebody.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
This is a person who I would not have expected
this from whatsoever. This person had a wild experience with
two boys at one time, what at fourteen years old
and sleep away camp. And it wasn't the first year
of this sort of activity happening.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Oh my god, No, my camp was the horniest place,
That's what I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah, Like there was if this was going on, I
guess I was too busy crying in the corner or something,
because like this was also I also was not thirteen,
I was I was nine or ten or something, so
like it, I was obviously, well I shouldn't say obviously
when I wasn't being invited to those sort of activities. Now,
the counselors, they were having the time of their lives.
I mean the rifle rey range at night, because they
(03:46):
had those mattresses that you'd lay on to shoot the guns.
And then someone actually at the camp got shot, so
they had to they had to take away the rifle rerange. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
because no, so like no, it was very common I
think at the summer camps to have riflery where you'd
like and they had archery too, where you like, you've
never heard of this, Why are their weapons and you've
never heard of this? Oh yeah, no, you'd shoot guns
(04:07):
because they're out on the forest and stuff. So like
there was guns, there was usually archery. We didn't have guns.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
It was Canada, so it was a lot of wild
Oh well in Canada, I don't like bow and arrow, right,
they had yet they had bow and arrow, but they
had like little twenty two rifles you shoot.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
At targets about sword fighting, you do that. Well, I
may have been somebody that was a different Yeah. I
also wasn't invited to that either. But but yeah, then
some kid got shot. I guess they'd take the guns
away shot at I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
A bunch of kids with guns the forest.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I mean you had an eighteen year old college sophomore
overseeing a bunch of ten year olds with twenty two rifles. Yeah,
but you would like laid down like they were, like
there was a range and there was like, hey, bales
out maybe I don't know, fifty feet away, and then
there were mattresses and you'd lay on the mattress with
the gun you'd shoot. But then at night, when all
(04:57):
the campers were asleep, then the mattresses came, you know,
a place to go for some fun time.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Oh god. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
But anyway, this was a transformational experience for this, for
this person, and for a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I know.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
They were out here hooking up out here, you know,
doing all kinds of crazy stuff, and I was never
included in any of them. Again, I was too young,
But I messed this up. I should have embraced the
summer camp culture because the best thing it could have
happened to me probably was to love it and then
become like a counselor in training and then become a counselor.
And then that was where it was going down the
(05:31):
mattress going down in the DMS. Back in the day,
I could have been on the mattress. Then there was
like a counselor cabin that was like up on the
hill that was like forbidden. You know, the campers could
never know what was in there, what was going on.
God knows what was going on up there. And then
I remember counselors would have like a night off every session,
and like usually it was like the one counselor was
dating another and they would go get a hotel room
(05:52):
somewhere and they would leave the camp and go duke
god knows what. But someone texted about summer camp and
I'm like, man, I totally missed out. Like I did
not have the right mental attitude about this. I feel
like if I have kids ever and I sent them
to this camp, and I'm gonna I'm gonna have to
send them down a young age and be like you
need to embrace this kid. I realize you're eight, but
things are really gonna happen for you that you're gonna
(06:13):
like if you just enjoy yourself. And and the fact
that I didn't like this place. Three meals a day,
there was a beach involved, there were boats, it was sunny,
it was in California, Like, what the hell is wrong
with me?
Speaker 3 (06:26):
I don't know how parents can do it, Like, I
don't think if I had a kid, I would be
able to sleep at night with them away for that
much time.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
My mom used to sob. There was this big hill
because the camp was in a valley. That was another thing.
The camp is closed now because it was in the
valley in a canyon in California where the wildfires are,
so it turned out that it was a bit of
a danger. There were guns and fires and all sorts
(06:56):
of the gun thing is don't I mean, it probably
is now, but it was not uncommon like in the
nineties and before.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Maybe it must have been the generation. But I didn't
see any guidance when I was you know, what summer
camp did you go? I didn't do a summer camp.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Well then how would you have? Well if you weren't there,
then how would you have seen them?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Were you would?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Girl? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
About people? Yes, I just you would never. I was
defending Tailler Swift when I was.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
You knew you were you were. It was prophetic, you
knew that it was coming.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
My life journey was going to be.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, but I'm just like, man, I didn't do this right,
So I don't know. I don't know who wrote about you.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
You're writing letters right to your lawyer. Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
No, I was writing letters to my lawyer saying cease
and desist. I was getting restraining order against my parents.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
You were mad.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
I was big mad. The letters are famous. Then they've
been relocated because I used to know where they were
and now my mom has moved them. So I can't
have them because they're going to come out of the
most inopportune time for me.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
But I would.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
The problem me is, you guys, these were This was
a very sad time in my Everyone thinks it's funny now,
but like I was really.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Sad when I was. Yeah, it's okay, and.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I know I sound like a big woos now, but
like I'm nine years old, my parents are divorced, Like,
here go to the I got this new guy come
around who now raised me? And he's like, you know what,
we need to send this kid away to get him
at it. Yeah, take your birth control whatever.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Alarm. I don't know. I don't know where that came
this morning.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
No, I did it just a random six twices. She's
trying to tell me something. You want to start getting
up at six twenty three?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Wrap it up? Yeah, that Dave's day. Wrapped this segment.
We've heard this story already for we can't stand it. Well,
then that alarm will be going off all the time.
In that case, Wow, I don't know. Maybe it's my
grandpa sometimes he messes with my alarm.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Did a Punky bruceter go to your camp? I think so?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yeah? So let moon Front Camp for the Stars. Yeah,
I think so.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
My summer camp was a church camp and we had
archery and paintball guns.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
This is in the late two thousand.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Somebody said, yeah, I mean stuff was going down at
summer camp and I just wasn't doing it, and I
regret it deeply.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Well.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
The other thing is, I think a lot of people
like uh, they send like groups of kids, like their friends.
They all go to the same like there's a Jewish
camp that all my Jewish friends went to. They all
went to this and the other thing. Now they go back.
I guess every spring. Now that the Jewish kids are
like growing up and have money, they rent the camp
out to the adults. So these guys like, not only
was it big for them then, but they're still like
(09:50):
living in the glory of the Jewish summer camp now
where they pay a certain amount of money and then
now they can go and do all the same stuff
but with alcohol.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
That's that's late. That's what mine was Jewish camp. I
only Christian kid. Yes, I didn't have any that sounds
elation friends. I don't know when they were. My mom's like,
do you have any Christian friends?
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Like, nope, buddies went to boy Scout camps. They shot guns.
This seems to be the gun seems to be the
takeaway from this. Not the three someome that my fourteen
year old friend at the time, well she's not. She
was fourteen. I'm gonna push the button now. I just
I thought that might be the takeaway, and a bunch
of stories about, like, you know, wild things that happened
(10:29):
at summer camp would emerge, but nobody's awake. It gets
the summertime, so I'm just gonna shut up now.
How many of you went to sleep away camp? You
know I did? I did?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (00:04):
I wanted to you, Yeah I did.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
But then I got picked up. Why did you get
picked up?
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Because I was one of those attachment kids that had
attachment issues, Like once the sun went down, it was like,
come get me, you know, so the next morning I
got picked up.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Now that surprises me a little bit about you, because
you're such a boss b you know, as a grown up. Okays,
Their families here today contradict everything, Isaiah. No, I feel
many people. I feel like people grow into themselves. But
I guess I'm surprised there was ever a phase in
(00:41):
your life where you or anything other than just assertive
and just out here now and everything.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
God, No, I was you guys know, I said in
fear in this building. For seven years, I wouldn't even
turn in a demo, like I'm really a punk.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I just gets win, died all the win, did all
the I guess I guess outward confidence come? Where did
that come from? When did that happen? I don't did
you just wake up one day and you like screw it.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I started seeing people with way less talent do more things,
and that kind of gave me. I'm being honest, like
people who had like no even thought of doing it.
They just walke up one days I want to be
in the radio and they got a radio show. I
was like, wow, I can do that. So then that's
kind of what gave me confidence. But then outside of that,
I was a real Like my parents couldn't even leave
(01:26):
me in the car to go pay for the gas
they had to get Yeah, I'm learning this surprises me.
You had to get me out. It's some good parenting
to take you in. Yeah, leave your kid in the
car like that. Yeah, okay, they came back like dang,
(01:49):
she's still here.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
It was like, but he leavest hammers swift on when
he does it, So I thought, I.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Think it was okay. Usually I usually kind of fluck
to teases up. Some people hang around.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I wasn't serious. But anyway, I don't know why we're
still talking about that. No, my point about I was
that way though, like I was the guy that didn't
as a very famous story. I did not want to
go to Sleep Awake Camp. Oh yeah, but I'm still
a punk and everybody knows it. So it's like there's
nothing surprising about me.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I went for four weeks at a time.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Four weeks you had a time in your life or
where you said, I mean, my parents have been passing
me back and forth since I was one and a half.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
So oh a time was Yeah, So that's where it
all comes from.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
It like it comes from loss, it comes from it
comes from trauma. Like I'm I'm I was a big WZ.
But I was. I guess I for some reason there
was so much like disruption in my childhood life that
I felt like being away was like a punishment or something. Yeah,
being away from everybody else with a punishment. But I
bring this up because for everybody else, apparently sleep away
(02:58):
camp was like a transformational time like the other day,
And I want to know if this is true for
you eight five five five three five, because the other
day I.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Was talking to somebody.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
This is a person who I would not have expected
this from whatsoever. This person had a wild experience with
two boys at one time, what at fourteen years old
and sleep away camp. And it wasn't the first year
of this sort of activity happening.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Oh my god, No, my camp was the horniest place,
That's what I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah, Like there was if this was going on, I
guess I was too busy crying in the corner or something,
because like this was also I also was not thirteen,
I was I was nine or ten or something, so
like it, I was obviously, well I shouldn't say obviously
when I wasn't being invited to those sort of activities. Now,
the counselors, they were having the time of their lives.
I mean the rifle rey range at night, because they
(03:46):
had those mattresses that you'd lay on to shoot the guns.
And then someone actually at the camp got shot, so
they had to they had to take away the rifle rerange. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
because no, so like no, it was very common I
think at the summer camps to have riflery where you'd
like and they had archery too, where you like, you've
never heard of this, Why are their weapons and you've
never heard of this? Oh yeah, no, you'd shoot guns
(04:07):
because they're out on the forest and stuff. So like
there was guns, there was usually archery. We didn't have guns.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
It was Canada, so it was a lot of wild
Oh well in Canada, I don't like bow and arrow, right,
they had yet they had bow and arrow, but they
had like little twenty two rifles you shoot.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
At targets about sword fighting, you do that. Well, I
may have been somebody that was a different Yeah. I
also wasn't invited to that either. But but yeah, then
some kid got shot. I guess they'd take the guns
away shot at I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
A bunch of kids with guns the forest.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I mean you had an eighteen year old college sophomore
overseeing a bunch of ten year olds with twenty two rifles. Yeah,
but you would like laid down like they were, like
there was a range and there was like, hey, bales
out maybe I don't know, fifty feet away, and then
there were mattresses and you'd lay on the mattress with
the gun you'd shoot. But then at night, when all
(04:57):
the campers were asleep, then the mattresses came, you know,
a place to go for some fun time.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Oh god. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
But anyway, this was a transformational experience for this, for
this person, and for a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I know.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
They were out here hooking up out here, you know,
doing all kinds of crazy stuff, and I was never
included in any of them. Again, I was too young,
But I messed this up. I should have embraced the
summer camp culture because the best thing it could have
happened to me probably was to love it and then
become like a counselor in training and then become a counselor.
And then that was where it was going down the
(05:31):
mattress going down in the DMS. Back in the day,
I could have been on the mattress. Then there was
like a counselor cabin that was like up on the
hill that was like forbidden. You know, the campers could
never know what was in there, what was going on.
God knows what was going on up there. And then
I remember counselors would have like a night off every session,
and like usually it was like the one counselor was
dating another and they would go get a hotel room
(05:52):
somewhere and they would leave the camp and go duke
god knows what. But someone texted about summer camp and
I'm like, man, I totally missed out. Like I did
not have the right mental attitude about this. I feel
like if I have kids ever and I sent them
to this camp, and I'm gonna I'm gonna have to
send them down a young age and be like you
need to embrace this kid. I realize you're eight, but
things are really gonna happen for you that you're gonna
(06:13):
like if you just enjoy yourself. And and the fact
that I didn't like this place. Three meals a day,
there was a beach involved, there were boats, it was sunny,
it was in California, Like, what the hell is wrong
with me?
Speaker 3 (06:26):
I don't know how parents can do it, Like, I
don't think if I had a kid, I would be
able to sleep at night with them away for that
much time.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
My mom used to sob. There was this big hill
because the camp was in a valley. That was another thing.
The camp is closed now because it was in the
valley in a canyon in California where the wildfires are,
so it turned out that it was a bit of
a danger. There were guns and fires and all sorts
(06:56):
of the gun thing is don't I mean, it probably
is now, but it was not uncommon like in the
nineties and before.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Maybe it must have been the generation. But I didn't
see any guidance when I was you know, what summer
camp did you go? I didn't do a summer camp.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Well then how would you have? Well if you weren't there,
then how would you have seen them?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Were you would?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Girl? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
About people? Yes, I just you would never. I was
defending Tailler Swift when I was.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
You knew you were you were. It was prophetic, you
knew that it was coming.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
My life journey was going to be.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, but I'm just like, man, I didn't do this right,
So I don't know. I don't know who wrote about you.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
You're writing letters right to your lawyer. Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
No, I was writing letters to my lawyer saying cease
and desist. I was getting restraining order against my parents.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
You were mad.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
I was big mad. The letters are famous. Then they've
been relocated because I used to know where they were
and now my mom has moved them. So I can't
have them because they're going to come out of the
most inopportune time for me.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
But I would.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
The problem me is, you guys, these were This was
a very sad time in my Everyone thinks it's funny now,
but like I was really.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Sad when I was. Yeah, it's okay, and.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I know I sound like a big woos now, but
like I'm nine years old, my parents are divorced, Like,
here go to the I got this new guy come
around who now raised me? And he's like, you know what,
we need to send this kid away to get him
at it. Yeah, take your birth control whatever.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Alarm. I don't know. I don't know where that came
this morning.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
No, I did it just a random six twices. She's
trying to tell me something. You want to start getting
up at six twenty three?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Wrap it up? Yeah, that Dave's day. Wrapped this segment.
We've heard this story already for we can't stand it. Well,
then that alarm will be going off all the time.
In that case, Wow, I don't know. Maybe it's my
grandpa sometimes he messes with my alarm.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Did a Punky bruceter go to your camp? I think so?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yeah? So let moon Front Camp for the Stars. Yeah,
I think so.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
My summer camp was a church camp and we had
archery and paintball guns.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
This is in the late two thousand.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Somebody said, yeah, I mean stuff was going down at
summer camp and I just wasn't doing it, and I
regret it deeply.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Well.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
The other thing is, I think a lot of people
like uh, they send like groups of kids, like their friends.
They all go to the same like there's a Jewish
camp that all my Jewish friends went to. They all
went to this and the other thing. Now they go back.
I guess every spring. Now that the Jewish kids are
like growing up and have money, they rent the camp
out to the adults. So these guys like, not only
was it big for them then, but they're still like
(09:50):
living in the glory of the Jewish summer camp now
where they pay a certain amount of money and then
now they can go and do all the same stuff
but with alcohol.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
That's that's late. That's what mine was Jewish camp. I
only Christian kid. Yes, I didn't have any that sounds
elation friends. I don't know when they were. My mom's like,
do you have any Christian friends?
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Like, nope, buddies went to boy Scout camps. They shot guns.
This seems to be the gun seems to be the
takeaway from this. Not the three someome that my fourteen
year old friend at the time, well she's not. She
was fourteen. I'm gonna push the button now. I just
I thought that might be the takeaway, and a bunch
of stories about, like, you know, wild things that happened
(10:29):
at summer camp would emerge, but nobody's awake. It gets
the summertime, so I'm just gonna shut up now.
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