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It's stay or go. She'll like give us some advice. Yes, okay,
go today. If you said no, we would just want
have moved on. Hi, Kelly, Oh you gotta push that
on button. Hi Kelly, Sorry on It is important to
push when you're one. People are talking to radio. How
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you doing.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Hey, I'm okay.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I wanted some advice.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Oh oh, she's right into it man, like she did.
This is serious time.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
No, not at all. All right, let's talk about this.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I have I'm going to pretend like I don't know
what you're to say, but I've read your note.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Okay, this is about your boyfriend.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
It is Yeah, we've been together for gosh six six
and a half.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Years, okay, and so yeah, and you you witnessed something
rather unfortunate for you and for him quite frankly, because
nobody really wants to get caught, uh like this, But
explain what what did you see?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
So? I had gotten home from work and I walked
in on him watching let's call it adult content, and
you will.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I see familiar.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I see, yeah on the fun iPad?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Did he have his did he have his full laptop?
It makes a difference. Was he in front of his
desktop computer? Was it a video? Is it a v
ahent projector? Why does it make a difference because I
need to know, like, if you have a projector out
like he wheeled out, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Like, yeah, if you're on my couch watching on my
eighty in it's not even sanitary. Okay now sorry, but
what is the answer though?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Was it the phone?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Luckily it wasn't a projector, but it was his iPad,
so it was a little bit bigger iPad.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
That's serious.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Well, and that's why I was able to see it
very clearly. Uh that you know, it was not the
kind of adult content that I was expecting. Again, I watch,
I watched, There's nothing wrong with it. It was just
that he was watching. Uh gay man.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Walked out? She did walked out. You can't compete with that. Okay,
did you finish? All right? So you wow? All right?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
So so you walk in on this first of the
logistics of the iPad too, it's I'm caught, I'm caught
on the details here. But so so you walk in.
He's watching content that is is not congruent with what
you thought he was into. Based on the fact that
you've been with him for six and a half years,
and did you did you say something of him, because look,
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I mean, you're right, there's nothing wrong with consuming that
kind of content. I realized that it's slippery slope. There
can be other issues and connection issues, and there's a
lot of there's a lot of reasons why this could
be problematic. But in itself, watching that kind of content
is all right. And but but yet this was this
was not this was not what you thought he was into.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
So you asked him about it. What does he say?
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Well, I had said, like, what what is happening? And
he said he wanted to try something new and you know,
listen again, there's nothing wrong with it, and he said
it's fantasy, Like I'm not going to act on it.
People do that, like I, I don't want to do
it in real life.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Jason heard this one before.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Yeah, but I do think that it's okay to I
don't know you, I don't watch everything I would actually do, right, Like,
do you everything that you watch?
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Are you actually going to try to do in real life?
That's point? Yeah, gay aunt you know, but you will.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
And that's what he has said, like he flipped.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
The script something going on, like watch two women?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
So why like, what's wrong with me?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
It's kind of a double standard. I will say, there
is a double is it? Everybody can be watching two
girls and that's.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Not three women?
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Do say that they watch that? Yeah, and that's no
one's saying anything about that.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
But then you know a couple of dudes and now
all of a sudden, we you know, now we're questioning
someone like true identity.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
That is That is a good point. Is there's a
double standard there? Yeah, it was her.
Speaker 6 (05:05):
We wouldn't better this man would not be batting an
eye at her, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
There was like, oh no, it's another Tuesday at the house.
Speaker 7 (05:09):
But because it's two men exactly bred Yeah, you're.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Right, but but I will say I don't like, yeah,
well we'll get to that, but like I don't, I
don't mean yeah, I'm starting to interrupt you, but I
I wouldn't say. I have vast conversations with my friends
about what sort of content they like, but none of
them have shared with me that they like watching two men.
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So I don't know if that's just like another level
or if it's simply a double standard and I should
be able to watch that and no one should say
two things about it, Like I don't know, I don't
know why that is so so he's just fantasizing you
have other concerns. Have you ever had any other reason
to question and try if you can, to remove the
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fact that you're now sort of influenced by what you
saw him watching. Have you ever had any concern other wise?
Like without this, never, I feel like sometime something happens
you're like, oh, I've been seeing the signs, but maybe
you're putting two things together that weren't already there. So never,
you've never and and everything in your life intimately has
been sound and and.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
All of that, and we're I mean, you know, again,
we've been together forever, but it's not like, you know,
that is an issue for us. We are physical together,
you know. Of course, now I'm over analyzing everything, like
oh yeah, a couple of months ago when he said,
oh my gosh, that man is you know that he's
like an Adonis, and I thought to jump him.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I'd love to jump him intimately, but I love up
and you know that now you're concerned about that, I'm.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Thinking, yeah, of course. And then like, oh my gosh,
you know last week when we were intimate, was he
thinking about that Adonnas at the supermarket?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Like, you know, if he's referring to other men as Adonnas,
maybe we yes, maybe, I mean, we have more to
talk about here. Okay, I want to take some phone
calls on this. I want to see if other people
have to say eight five five five one three five.
We'll surveyed the room here as well. I appreciate you
sharing this. Have the radio on and let's see what
people say. Maybe other people can relate and have been
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through this.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Good luck, Kelly, Thank you, I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Got it so in short, this man that she's been
with for six and a half years, she walked in
on him consuming content of two gay of two men,
of two men enjoying one another's company a lot, and
it's it's uncharacteristic. It's not what she thought he was into.
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He's never expressed that before. And what I what I
was saying to her was I didn't want her to
jump to conclusions like I didn't want her to say. Well,
now that he did that, now I can connect the
dots to a bunch of other stuff. If he's really
calling other men adonis, then it's interesting. But here's the
other thing. It doesn't necessarily mean that he doesn't value her.
It doesn't mean that he doesn't value what they do together.
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It's possible that the guy is by curious maybe, but
that doesn't that doesn't If the concern here is that
it's that his affection for her, or his life for her,
or their life together is fraudulent, I don't think it
necessarily says that. It doesn't have to mean that. It
could mean that he has some kind of fantasy that
he's not comfortable sharing because of this kind of speculation
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or the double standard that we referred to earlier, or whatever,
But like, I don't, I you're right if I walked
in on it, if I'm dating a woman and I
walked in she was watching two women. I wouldn't necessarily
assume that I'm no longer you know, she's not into me,
So I don't know why it would be fair to
do it the other way around. We all agree yeah
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or or or no.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
Well, I just think sometimes like what we watch doesn't
really always equal like real life, especially like the Damsel
in Distress, Like, no, I will never like, you know,
be like doing things with like the burglar that comes
in the house right, Like.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
That's good, sounds like something and have done many times
him reading in the house again, climbing through the.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I'm here to rib you girl.
Speaker 7 (09:22):
No, but like in the bedroom yes, So like I
don't know, I just feel like would I have questions
absolutely like yeah, why not? But at the same time,
it's like I got to think back to like when
you first discover this stuff and you're like exploring It's.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Like, did you not like look into that, you know
when you first discovered it?
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Like maybe it's new to him or in the situation,
new to her. Boys, I'm just not certain that.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
If her concern is that, because why would you Okay,
why would somebody worry about this. You'd worry because it's like, oh,
he likes men, he doesn't like women. Well, I don't
think it necessarily means that. It could mean he also
likes men, because apparently he like her and she was
none the wiser and their intimate life has been sound
until she saw this, and now she's second guessing it.
So if that's her worry, then I don't necessarily think
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that she that that one leads to the other. Now, Jason,
you in a previous time in your life, yeah, you
were with women and you did not necessarily like or
care for them, but you also did know, right, And
I don't mean to speak for you, but we've talked
about this at length for a decade or longer. You
did know that that wasn't necessarily what you wanted to
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gravitate towards. You were kind of doing it to conform, right.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, Yeah, I think it was.
Speaker 8 (10:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (10:34):
I think like you sort of set out and think
what you should do and what you should be in
the world. But I mean, I definitely did care for
the women that I was with, and.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
So there's a world where he could maybe be with
her because he's repressing what he really wants to do.
Speaker 9 (10:50):
Yeah, it's possible, people do that every single day. But
I think to jump to that conclusion just from this
specific example is.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
A little much.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Six and a half years to be with someone while
you really you want to do something else is a
very long time. And then for her to not see
any sign or feel any sort of gap in the connection,
you know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
You'll do it all the time though people live secret
lives relationship.
Speaker 10 (11:15):
I guess, yeah, I guess, Hey, Sarah, Yeah, Hey, what
do you think if you're just tuning in a woman
with a boyfriend of six and a half years, she
walks in on him watching content that is not necessarily
what she brings to the table, and now she's questioning everything.
Speaker 8 (11:34):
I think she should still stay. I think you know,
it's somewhat normal for you know, people to watch that. Again,
like you said, the double standard, and if you bisexual,
that still doesn't change you know how he feels about her.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
I mean, now I can just now I'll have her
jokes like the George Michael posters all over the room.
I mean, you know, you might have I don't know, Madonna.
He loves to go to he loves to go to
a village of people or whatever, the village of people
cover band shows.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
But you know what I mean, that's that's normal, isn't it.
You know you have a steam works all right?
Speaker 2 (12:16):
All right, Sarah, So it's normal and and and so
she should stick with it.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
I think so, yeah, okay, fair enough, Thank you, Sarah.
Speaker 8 (12:23):
I have a good day, of course, Thanks you too.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Glad you called. Hey, Josie. How you doing, Josie? So
you call the radio station. Look alive, Josie.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Wait, we're on the radio station all right now, Thank
you for calling him for listening?
Speaker 1 (12:43):
What say you?
Speaker 11 (12:46):
I think she should stay okay? And I say that
because I feel like maybe there needs to be a
little bit more communication between them. I know it's been
they've been together quite a long time, and like he
said it, you know, it is a fantasy that maybe
he was just a little bit embarrassed to like tell
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her about. I kind of went through a similar situation
with my now fiance, except that my fiance in the
past acted upon it. And we're still kind of working
through that whole what what what the heck did you do?
Speaker 1 (13:24):
How did he act upon it?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Now? How did he did he act upon it before
he met you? Did he cheat on you as a man?
Like when you say acted upon it and you work
through it, like, what does that mean?
Speaker 11 (13:35):
So he before he met me, and it was with
a transgender man who wanted to be a woman, and
he knew this person before he met me, and then
while we were dating, he acted upon it recently. So
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we're still trying to work through that. And with our
communication that we've been going through is that he told
me it was fantasy. Obviously, the typical lack of judgment.
I was being selfish, blah blah blah. So we're still
trying to work through that. But I will never forget
because I live and die by the Golden Girls. And
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one of the quotes in the show that Sophia says
is that if you could erase this one moment in
your entire relationship, is this the person that you still
want to be with? And my answer was yet, Okay,
we are working. We are working through that, rebuilding that trust.
You know. Obviously, everyone has their fantasies, everyone has their
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their likes, but he is not really one to communicate
his feelings because he feels embarrassed about the things that
he likes in that aspect, but he has been more
open about it, which I'm glad that he is more
comfortable to talk to me about that.
Speaker 10 (14:58):
Well.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I think that's a good sign. Right, that's good.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Now you you've opened the lines of communication. You've you've
made him feel accepted, and so I think you're going
to get the truth, as opposed to if you shunned
him or you pretended like it never happened, then in
the back of your mind you'd always wonder, like, what's
really going on here? But I think you've done the
right thing. You've said, this is the person I want
to be with, and I accept you for who you are.
So let's work through this and let's let's have an
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open dialogue. I think I think that's the only.
Speaker 11 (15:25):
Way exactly, and communication is key. And you're right. I
didn't shun him because I feel like if I did,
then he would be a lot less, a more reluctant
to communicate with me about Say.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yeah, I think you're right, Josie. I'm glad you called.
I'm glad that I yelled at you to talk to me,
because this is a great call.
Speaker 11 (15:44):
You welcome up.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
I love you have a good day.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah, all these years later, man, Hey Amber, Hi, Hi Amber,
good morning.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Stare go go.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Why oh, well, with my opinion, if that was me
and I was with a man for over six years
and you.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Know I randomly saw him doing what he was doing
the middle of the.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Night, morning, whatever.
Speaker 12 (16:10):
Time of day it was, I would almost kind of
be like offended, almost in shock, especially if I didn't
know that was something that he was into or exploring.
I don't think I can be with somebody that's even
bisexual or has ever been with a man ever.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
That's just, you know, not something that I'm into.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
I'm completely heterosexual, and that's you know, how I would
want my boyfriend or husband or you know, fiancee to
be or whatever the case may be. Uh, you know,
six years is more than half a decade. That's you know,
a pretty good chunk of time for somebody that you've
been with and they've never done this before. You know,
you never knew about this, So for it to be
like new information, you know, I don't think it's worth.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Saying, Okay, fair enough, Amberg, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I think the bottom line is that if she really
cares about this man, it really wants to be with him,
and she can live with it, live with what she saw.
Then the only way is to have a dialogue and
to make the guy feel like she's comfortable with him,
and and maybe the end result is that we find
out that they're not supposed to be together or that,
or that he has been repressing something. But like again,
you could shun it, and then he's never going to
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tell you anything about anything, and you're always going to wonder,
or you can have the conversation is I don't know
that there's another choice.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yeah, seeing a man do that at all is a
little terrifying. So no matter what he's watching, you know,
how do you get that on your brain? Yeah, that's
that's something that we you never you never want.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
You kind of you know, I would look with so
much shame, Like if someone want to know you never
you never want to get coughing with myself.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Oh yeah, I like it. I'd you off