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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The frend show is on. It's stay or Go. So
this person didn't want to be on the air and
didn't want us to use her name. So I am
going to read it to you. Okay, we got this
spreadsheet radio on Instagram, I think in the DMS maybe
or maybe I got it. I or Kalin got it.
I can't remember. But anyway, so there's a lot of
(00:22):
here I can't say. But here's the scenario. Eight five
five three five. You guys are this group therapy here
when everyone's feedback is welcome. But I know this is
the email. I be my partner for almost nine years,
married for five. Recently, my partner and I have been
having a lot of issues. She has been incredibly secretive.
(00:43):
This is from a woman, by the way. Okay, I'm
not sure if that matters, but anyway, just for full context, right,
She's been incredibly secretive, hiding her phone, always leaving the room,
rushing me to bed, staying late at work, going out,
and then lying about where she is. All the signs
point to her cheating. I confronted her about it and
accused her of cheating, but she did I my accusations.
(01:05):
She said she's been fake cheating to get my attention.
She basically deflected what I was saying and made me
feel like I deserve the treatment. This last word I'm
not going to read because it's I think it kind
of says too much. But anyway, basically it was, don't
I think I know what's going on, but don't use
my name because you know I don't. Yeah, so I'm
not gonna I'm not gonna do that. But I've never
(01:28):
heard of this before. Fake cheating? Why would you fake cheat?
Like I mean, I guess you want to get someone's attention,
but you don't want the moral weight of actually committing
the infidelity, because I figure, if you're fake cheating, I mean,
it's not as bad as real cheating, but the repercussions
are similar. I mean, you're making somebody feel terrible.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, it's I don't know anybody that's really done this,
but just you know, I've heard, okay about people doing this.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
You've heard of people doing something. What have you heard though?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I've heard that sometimes to shake up the relationship, like
she said, get somebody's attention.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
You play these little stupid games to try to.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Get you've heard this, What would be an example of
of what somebody. Let's you say, let's me say Veronica, Veronica. Yeah,
so your alter ego Veronica.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Let's just say Veronica was dating the guy and he
was not a good guy at the time, so to
shake it up, I would go pick him up.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
And I mean, you got to get your pronouns and
your nouns and you're to get all right. Yes, I
do the same thing. We're talking about Ted. Sometimes I
mess up sometimes when we're talking about Ted.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
But Veronica would go pick up the guy, her boyfriend, Yeah,
and she would purposely let her passenger seat all the
way back.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Then when he would come to the car, he would
be like, who was here? Wasn't here? And I was like,
I would. I mean, she would be like, what are
you talking about? Oh?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
You know, like and play dumb, knowing that I just
let that seat back before you got in here. Yes,
I don't know. So that you have to be a
special kind of like you got to be a special
type of crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I do probably think that I would. In fact, I
have thought that before. I've gotten a people's car before
and been like, well, I had to put it all
the way back. But then that being said, I mean,
anybody would move their seat up, so because I put
the seat all the way back if I can from
a tall person. So I guess the only thing I've
thought before is if I left the seat in a
certain place and I wasn't to wear that anybody else
(03:40):
was in the car, then I'll be like, well, who
move the seed? But in my head, but I've never
said anything about it. Yeah, fake cheating.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Though, Do we believe it's fake cheating?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
No? I think it's real cheating because.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
What would be a good excuse. Oh, I was just
testing you, babe.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Fake cheating eight five one oh three five you can
call it text the same number. Not that you would
know anything about, you know, playing games to get a
reaction or anything.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
That's my specialty.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah, yeah, I do that.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I was yeah, yeah, I don't, I don't know chet.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, I was being facetious because everybody knows that you
you will take it to the What is again facetious? Yep,
that's what you're what I was being one facecious, That's
what I was being.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Fa cheated.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
I'm not even gonna try and take it. I'm gonna
cuss say something bad. But you know you've been known
to take it to the floor. I've been known how
people go low, you go lower. You've been known to
do that. You've been quoted as saying that, yes, quoted.
But but fake cheating though, would we go to that length?
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Absolutely not, because my big thing with that is and
I'm going to use this as the opposite example, right, So,
if Hobby was fake cheating to get my attention, that's
only going to pull me away further.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
It's gonna make me trust him less. And I know that.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
I play my little games and I'll do the whole
Like if he doesn't call me back, I'll pretend like
I hurt my ankle or something, so he calls me back.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
You never done that, No, So you fake emergencies, not cheating,
so you get in a fight with them, and then
you fake the you hurt yourself for sympathy.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Of course, what do you do? He comes home and
you're like, oh, well, this is before he gets home.
So I'll make sure that I call him so he
calls me back, because you know, we hang up whatever.
He's mad.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
I know he's mad, and I'll be like call me
right now, like I just hurt my hand, or like
it'll call me right now.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I just drop something on my foone.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
So you're hoping that he then feels bad about the
fact that you're in pain and then lets you off
the hook for whatever fight you started.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Correct, And the response I get is negative. That's Smar
sprouts that I get because he knows that I'm full
of it.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Oh, he says, yeah, he's on to you now, like
he knows, Like, no, you didn't. You're just trying not
to be accountable for the fight that Okay, it was nonsense.
I see you fake hurt yourself. Okay, Yes, he knows
what I'm up to. I mean, we all do. But again, well, yeah,
you've told many stories about it. I just don't. I don't.
I don't know about why fake cheat. You may as
(05:50):
well just cheat. I mean, because it looks the same,
like it's It makes someone feel bad, it makes them
not trust you. It has the appearance of cheating, so
all the bad things about cheating, except I suppose you
can live with yourself because you're not really doing it.
But at the same time, you know that you're playing somebody,
so you're lying, so you're being dishonest. Either way, you
may as well just get it in. Oh you know,
(06:12):
I mean honestly fake cheating. That's dumb. Okay, Because here's
the other thing. If I can't disprove or I guess
in this case, if I can't prove that I'm fake cheating,
then I'm cheating as far as the other person's concerned.
So I may as well get some you know what
I'm saying, because I'm fake cheating, but no one's gonna
believe that. So then when I'm like, girl, I was
just fake cheating, like, no, you that's bs. I've never
(06:34):
heard this, Stephanie, We've never heard of this before. Fake cheating.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Yeah. I think that they're probably actually cheating, and I
think it's gas flighting at its finess.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
This sounds like a case of the gas lighting.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Yeah, definitely for sure. I was married to a gas
lighter for twenty two years and I'm finally free of that,
and it screams gas flighting. So they're definitely cheating. And
you want to do step to somebody that you love
on purpose anyway without having something behind it?
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Is he not the best feeling, Stephanie, by the way,
to realize to come out of the cloud and realize
that you, in fact were not the crazy one like
to realize, like, when when you can actually step away
from the damage that these people do, the gas lighters
and the narcissist or whatever else. I'm being dead ass
sincere here and when you finally get out of the fog.
And for you, it lasted twenty two years, so I
can't imagine how long it took or the process. But
(07:28):
then when you're like, wait a minute, everything I thought
made perfect sense and this person truly tried to make
me feel like I was crazy.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Amen, And you know what, on the twenty seventh will
be one year, and I am so happy with the
man that I'm with now that I literally have bump
good for you.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
That makes me very very I'm being I'm being completely sincere,
and I'm very very happy for you, because thank you.
It's a bad thing. You fake cheating. I don't get it.
Have a good day. Thanks for listening and for texting.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Well thank god?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Oh see now, no, no, this is real cheating.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
I mean, I guess she could be trying to get
her attention, but that's certainly not a healthy way to do.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Such a no. Very, it's a it's a really mean game.
It's an incredibly cruel game. If you're not cheating to
make someone think that you're cheating on the place in
the context of a relationship, Is there anything more defiling
than feeling like you're being cheated or then realizing that
you've been cheated on and then lie to on top
of that? Is there?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
But what about the other side? What about what?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
What does she do that may her partner get to
that point where she was so desperate for her love
and affection and attention that she she decided to fake
this life of cheating.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Are you ever of the mindset, Kiki, that it's someone
the treatment that they're receiving from someone else is their fault.
I mean, I maybe, like I think I think that
people if you treat them poorly and they react poorly,
then I think they're what. You can't then gaslight and
go why are you so mean to me? It's like, well,
I mean to you because that's a natural he reaction
(09:00):
to you treating me poorly. So like, for for this
woman to complain to her partner about her fake cheating,
it's like, no, you don't get to You know what
you're doing. You're trying to elicit a response out of
this person. That response is going to be negative, or
it's going to be insecurity or whatever else. You don't
then get to call the person You don't then get
to say, this relationship is dysfunctional and I find you insecure.
(09:22):
You're making me feel insecure. Right, I can own the feelings,
but I can also own the fact that you shouldn't
be doing this to.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Me and she but she owned up to it.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
She said, I've been fake cheating because I want your attention.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
I'm trying to wake you up.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yeah, but that's I don't I guess that's what I'm
saying is I'm not sure that the wrongs justify when
or cancel each other out?
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Like is that how you do it now is not
the right way? But you know, no, you know, I'll
say lever for this.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Oh, I mean, I think you got to really search
your soul here and try and figure out what you
think it might really be going on. But does it
really matter? Is my point? Like cheating not cheating? If
you feel that, if you feel that betrayal, if relationships
at a point where this these sort of games are
being played, does it really matter that?
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Is it wrong trying to make your partner a little jealous?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Great? Go to the gas station together. Oh yeah, hit on.
If you want to get hit on as a woman,
go thank you. Yeah, I'm gonna ignore you.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
And you just have a big head anyway, It's fine.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
I've actually seen that. I have seen that more times
than not. We're douchebag guys can't call a woman, and
then when she doesn't react favorably, he's like, well you
ugly anyway at me before, Like I've seen it myself
where it's like, okay, I mean like I just the
stuff that people will say, and then you know, women
(10:40):
don't react for obvious reasons, and it's like, oh, I
wouldn't do it anyway, then what are you yelling? I'm
sure you idiot? Hey Jordan, hey man, good morning. Just
to recap here, this person wrote us then with somebody
for nine years and has felt very insecure in her
relationship and when she asked her partner to being coupled.
When she asked her partner if she was cheating, she said,
(11:04):
I'm fake cheating to get your attention. What do you
think I think you need to go because of like this.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
We're too old for childer's games.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
But I get that you're.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
Trying to get your partner's attention and everything, but.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
It's other ways to do it.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
It's like other ways to sit down and actually talk
to him about it and be like, hey, I feel
like you're not giving me an attention, Like what's up?
Like what can like explain to what you need? Like
you And when you're in a relationship, you have to
explain your needs and want to somebody. And if you
can't do that, then that may not be the person
for you. So if you want to play child's games
and tell me and go fake cheat, then and get
(11:41):
me all out of my character to make me feel
like you're cheating and giving me anxiety, heart racing and
I'm out here just like losing my mind. But at
the same time you tell me your fake cheating, I
think that was a bunch of bs.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah, I mean again, I'm not sure if it matters.
But Jordan's thank you have a good day?
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yeah too?
Speaker 1 (11:59):
You right, we don't know the other side of the
story here, We don't. We don't know, but I don't. Again,
I'm not sure that that justifies the reaction. Yeah, it's
not right, Like maybe this woman who wrote us did
something really bad that and this is where we're at
you know, is it the payback or the get back?
Is this this this ploy? Either way, it's someone just
(12:20):
texted one hundred percent of form of abuse. So maybe
maybe she's an abuser. This girl's an abuser. Maybe they
shouldn't be together. So I don't know that it matters
what the other side of the story is. This is
toxic and dysfunctional. Yeah, and again I'm not saying that
this girl's innocenter, that girl's innocent or whatever. But regardless,
they're both playing Let's assume they're both playing nasty games
at worst, right, So peace? O, Man, it's over. So
(12:44):
I got it, It's gotta be done.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Hey Maritza, Hi, good morning.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Hey, how you doing fake cheating?
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Fake Chad?
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Why what fake cheating? Why are we doing that.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
So I can to stop playing my games with her partner?
To me, it sounds like a BF excuse.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
She probably is cheating and she just says an excuse.
But if there's something that's bothering both of them, they
need to sit down and talk about it like adults
and stop playing these games because.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
This is just going to push your partner.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
It's just going to keep pushing her partner away from her,
and yeah, they just told me to sit down and
talk about their issues and what's bothering them, because fake
cheating is not going to solve anything.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
No, I agree, I agree. Thank you. Have a good day.
Thank you, Christine. Hi, Christine, good morning, Welcome to the
Friend Show. How are you good?
Speaker 4 (13:30):
How are you good morning?
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Harry? Well stare go this fake cheating lady. The woman
is staying her partner. She's fake cheating. You'd stay, Yeah, No,
I would say go oh you say go okay, ye yeah, because.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
It's point blank she's going to the extreme anyway to
say I'm big cheating, So it's point blank.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Go yeah, yeah, yeah, I think so too. Thank you, Christine,
have a good day.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Thank you too.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yeah. Automatically divorced real cheating manipulation. When people were saying, Justine,
I'm going through all these uh its abuse. What's the
incentive to stay if you're just making up scenarios to
force a response? Yeah, I don't know. It's like clear
communication or not or whatever. And then we're done with
this man. You need to talk to your friend Veronica.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Well I have.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
She doesn't do that anymore, but it's got quite the response.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Once she did it you need to straighten her out or.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Yeah, or or cheap for real, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
You may as well because because if it looks like
it, it smells like it, you may as well. Friends show
The frend show is on. It's stay or Go. So
this person didn't want to be on the air and
didn't want us to use her name. So I am
going to read it to you. Okay, we got this
spreadsheet radio on Instagram, I think in the DMS maybe
or maybe I got it. I or Kalin got it.
I can't remember. But anyway, so there's a lot of
(00:22):
here I can't say. But here's the scenario. Eight five
five three five. You guys are this group therapy here
when everyone's feedback is welcome. But I know this is
the email. I be my partner for almost nine years,
married for five. Recently, my partner and I have been
having a lot of issues. She has been incredibly secretive.
(00:43):
This is from a woman, by the way. Okay, I'm
not sure if that matters, but anyway, just for full context, right,
She's been incredibly secretive, hiding her phone, always leaving the room,
rushing me to bed, staying late at work, going out,
and then lying about where she is. All the signs
point to her cheating. I confronted her about it and
accused her of cheating, but she did I my accusations.
(01:05):
She said she's been fake cheating to get my attention.
She basically deflected what I was saying and made me
feel like I deserve the treatment. This last word I'm
not going to read because it's I think it kind
of says too much. But anyway, basically it was, don't
I think I know what's going on, but don't use
my name because you know I don't. Yeah, so I'm
not gonna I'm not gonna do that. But I've never
(01:28):
heard of this before. Fake cheating? Why would you fake cheat?
Like I mean, I guess you want to get someone's attention,
but you don't want the moral weight of actually committing
the infidelity, because I figure, if you're fake cheating, I mean,
it's not as bad as real cheating, but the repercussions
are similar. I mean, you're making somebody feel terrible.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, it's I don't know anybody that's really done this,
but just you know, I've heard, okay about people doing this.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
You've heard of people doing something. What have you heard though?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I've heard that sometimes to shake up the relationship, like
she said, get somebody's attention.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
You play these little stupid games to try to.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Get you've heard this, What would be an example of
of what somebody. Let's you say, let's me say Veronica, Veronica. Yeah,
so your alter ego Veronica.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Let's just say Veronica was dating the guy and he
was not a good guy at the time, so to
shake it up, I would go pick him up.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
And I mean, you got to get your pronouns and
your nouns and you're to get all right. Yes, I
do the same thing. We're talking about Ted. Sometimes I
mess up sometimes when we're talking about Ted.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
But Veronica would go pick up the guy, her boyfriend, Yeah,
and she would purposely let her passenger seat all the
way back.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Then when he would come to the car, he would
be like, who was here? Wasn't here? And I was like,
I would. I mean, she would be like, what are
you talking about? Oh?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
You know, like and play dumb, knowing that I just
let that seat back before you got in here. Yes,
I don't know. So that you have to be a
special kind of like you got to be a special
type of crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I do probably think that I would. In fact, I
have thought that before. I've gotten a people's car before
and been like, well, I had to put it all
the way back. But then that being said, I mean,
anybody would move their seat up, so because I put
the seat all the way back if I can from
a tall person. So I guess the only thing I've
thought before is if I left the seat in a
certain place and I wasn't to wear that anybody else
(03:40):
was in the car, then I'll be like, well, who
move the seed? But in my head, but I've never
said anything about it. Yeah, fake cheating.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Though, Do we believe it's fake cheating?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
No? I think it's real cheating because.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
What would be a good excuse. Oh, I was just
testing you, babe.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Fake cheating eight five one oh three five you can
call it text the same number. Not that you would
know anything about, you know, playing games to get a
reaction or anything.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
That's my specialty.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah, yeah, I do that.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I was yeah, yeah, I don't, I don't know chet.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, I was being facetious because everybody knows that you
you will take it to the What is again facetious? Yep,
that's what you're what I was being one facecious, That's
what I was being.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Fa cheated.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
I'm not even gonna try and take it. I'm gonna
cuss say something bad. But you know you've been known
to take it to the floor. I've been known how
people go low, you go lower. You've been known to
do that. You've been quoted as saying that, yes, quoted.
But but fake cheating though, would we go to that length?
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Absolutely not, because my big thing with that is and
I'm going to use this as the opposite example, right, So,
if Hobby was fake cheating to get my attention, that's
only going to pull me away further.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
It's gonna make me trust him less. And I know that.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
I play my little games and I'll do the whole
Like if he doesn't call me back, I'll pretend like
I hurt my ankle or something, so he calls me back.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
You never done that, No, So you fake emergencies, not cheating,
so you get in a fight with them, and then
you fake the you hurt yourself for sympathy.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Of course, what do you do? He comes home and
you're like, oh, well, this is before he gets home.
So I'll make sure that I call him so he
calls me back, because you know, we hang up whatever.
He's mad.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
I know he's mad, and I'll be like call me
right now, like I just hurt my hand, or like
it'll call me right now.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I just drop something on my foone.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
So you're hoping that he then feels bad about the
fact that you're in pain and then lets you off
the hook for whatever fight you started.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Correct, And the response I get is negative. That's Smar
sprouts that I get because he knows that I'm full
of it.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Oh, he says, yeah, he's on to you now, like
he knows, Like, no, you didn't. You're just trying not
to be accountable for the fight that Okay, it was nonsense.
I see you fake hurt yourself. Okay, Yes, he knows
what I'm up to. I mean, we all do. But again, well, yeah,
you've told many stories about it. I just don't. I don't.
I don't know about why fake cheat. You may as
(05:50):
well just cheat. I mean, because it looks the same,
like it's It makes someone feel bad, it makes them
not trust you. It has the appearance of cheating, so
all the bad things about cheating, except I suppose you
can live with yourself because you're not really doing it.
But at the same time, you know that you're playing somebody,
so you're lying, so you're being dishonest. Either way, you
may as well just get it in. Oh you know,
(06:12):
I mean honestly fake cheating. That's dumb. Okay, Because here's
the other thing. If I can't disprove or I guess
in this case, if I can't prove that I'm fake cheating,
then I'm cheating as far as the other person's concerned.
So I may as well get some you know what
I'm saying, because I'm fake cheating, but no one's gonna
believe that. So then when I'm like, girl, I was
just fake cheating, like, no, you that's bs. I've never
(06:34):
heard this, Stephanie, We've never heard of this before. Fake cheating.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Yeah. I think that they're probably actually cheating, and I
think it's gas flighting at its finess.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
This sounds like a case of the gas lighting.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Yeah, definitely for sure. I was married to a gas
lighter for twenty two years and I'm finally free of that,
and it screams gas flighting. So they're definitely cheating. And
you want to do step to somebody that you love
on purpose anyway without having something behind it?
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Is he not the best feeling, Stephanie, by the way,
to realize to come out of the cloud and realize
that you, in fact were not the crazy one like
to realize, like, when when you can actually step away
from the damage that these people do, the gas lighters
and the narcissist or whatever else. I'm being dead ass
sincere here and when you finally get out of the fog.
And for you, it lasted twenty two years, so I
can't imagine how long it took or the process. But
(07:28):
then when you're like, wait a minute, everything I thought
made perfect sense and this person truly tried to make
me feel like I was crazy.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Amen, And you know what, on the twenty seventh will
be one year, and I am so happy with the
man that I'm with now that I literally have bump
good for you.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
That makes me very very I'm being I'm being completely sincere,
and I'm very very happy for you, because thank you.
It's a bad thing. You fake cheating. I don't get it.
Have a good day. Thanks for listening and for texting.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Well thank god?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Oh see now, no, no, this is real cheating.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
I mean, I guess she could be trying to get
her attention, but that's certainly not a healthy way to do.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Such a no. Very, it's a it's a really mean game.
It's an incredibly cruel game. If you're not cheating to
make someone think that you're cheating on the place in
the context of a relationship, Is there anything more defiling
than feeling like you're being cheated or then realizing that
you've been cheated on and then lie to on top
of that? Is there?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
But what about the other side? What about what?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
What does she do that may her partner get to
that point where she was so desperate for her love
and affection and attention that she she decided to fake
this life of cheating.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Are you ever of the mindset, Kiki, that it's someone
the treatment that they're receiving from someone else is their fault.
I mean, I maybe, like I think I think that
people if you treat them poorly and they react poorly,
then I think they're what. You can't then gaslight and
go why are you so mean to me? It's like, well,
I mean to you because that's a natural he reaction
(09:00):
to you treating me poorly. So like, for for this
woman to complain to her partner about her fake cheating,
it's like, no, you don't get to You know what
you're doing. You're trying to elicit a response out of
this person. That response is going to be negative, or
it's going to be insecurity or whatever else. You don't
then get to call the person You don't then get
to say, this relationship is dysfunctional and I find you insecure.
(09:22):
You're making me feel insecure. Right, I can own the feelings,
but I can also own the fact that you shouldn't
be doing this to.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Me and she but she owned up to it.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
She said, I've been fake cheating because I want your attention.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
I'm trying to wake you up.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yeah, but that's I don't I guess that's what I'm
saying is I'm not sure that the wrongs justify when
or cancel each other out?
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Like is that how you do it now is not
the right way? But you know, no, you know, I'll
say lever for this.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Oh, I mean, I think you got to really search
your soul here and try and figure out what you
think it might really be going on. But does it
really matter? Is my point? Like cheating not cheating? If
you feel that, if you feel that betrayal, if relationships
at a point where this these sort of games are
being played, does it really matter that?
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Is it wrong trying to make your partner a little jealous?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Great? Go to the gas station together. Oh yeah, hit on.
If you want to get hit on as a woman,
go thank you. Yeah, I'm gonna ignore you.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
And you just have a big head anyway, It's fine.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
I've actually seen that. I have seen that more times
than not. We're douchebag guys can't call a woman, and
then when she doesn't react favorably, he's like, well you
ugly anyway at me before, Like I've seen it myself
where it's like, okay, I mean like I just the
stuff that people will say, and then you know, women
(10:40):
don't react for obvious reasons, and it's like, oh, I
wouldn't do it anyway, then what are you yelling? I'm
sure you idiot? Hey Jordan, hey man, good morning. Just
to recap here, this person wrote us then with somebody
for nine years and has felt very insecure in her
relationship and when she asked her partner to being coupled.
When she asked her partner if she was cheating, she said,
(11:04):
I'm fake cheating to get your attention. What do you
think I think you need to go because of like this.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
We're too old for childer's games.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
But I get that you're.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
Trying to get your partner's attention and everything, but.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
It's other ways to do it.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
It's like other ways to sit down and actually talk
to him about it and be like, hey, I feel
like you're not giving me an attention, Like what's up?
Like what can like explain to what you need? Like
you And when you're in a relationship, you have to
explain your needs and want to somebody. And if you
can't do that, then that may not be the person
for you. So if you want to play child's games
and tell me and go fake cheat, then and get
(11:41):
me all out of my character to make me feel
like you're cheating and giving me anxiety, heart racing and
I'm out here just like losing my mind. But at
the same time you tell me your fake cheating, I
think that was a bunch of bs.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah, I mean again, I'm not sure if it matters.
But Jordan's thank you have a good day?
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yeah too?
Speaker 1 (11:59):
You right, we don't know the other side of the
story here, We don't. We don't know, but I don't. Again,
I'm not sure that that justifies the reaction. Yeah, it's
not right, Like maybe this woman who wrote us did
something really bad that and this is where we're at
you know, is it the payback or the get back?
Is this this this ploy? Either way, it's someone just
(12:20):
texted one hundred percent of form of abuse. So maybe
maybe she's an abuser. This girl's an abuser. Maybe they
shouldn't be together. So I don't know that it matters
what the other side of the story is. This is
toxic and dysfunctional. Yeah, and again I'm not saying that
this girl's innocenter, that girl's innocent or whatever. But regardless,
they're both playing Let's assume they're both playing nasty games
at worst, right, So peace? O, Man, it's over. So
(12:44):
I got it, It's gotta be done.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Hey Maritza, Hi, good morning.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Hey, how you doing fake cheating?
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Fake Chad?
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Why what fake cheating? Why are we doing that.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
So I can to stop playing my games with her partner?
To me, it sounds like a BF excuse.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
She probably is cheating and she just says an excuse.
But if there's something that's bothering both of them, they
need to sit down and talk about it like adults
and stop playing these games because.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
This is just going to push your partner.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
It's just going to keep pushing her partner away from her,
and yeah, they just told me to sit down and
talk about their issues and what's bothering them, because fake
cheating is not going to solve anything.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
No, I agree, I agree. Thank you. Have a good day.
Thank you, Christine. Hi, Christine, good morning, Welcome to the
Friend Show. How are you good?
Speaker 4 (13:30):
How are you good morning?
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Harry? Well stare go this fake cheating lady. The woman
is staying her partner. She's fake cheating. You'd stay, Yeah, No,
I would say go oh you say go okay, ye yeah, because.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
It's point blank she's going to the extreme anyway to
say I'm big cheating, So it's point blank.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Go yeah, yeah, yeah, I think so too. Thank you, Christine,
have a good day.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Thank you too.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yeah. Automatically divorced real cheating manipulation. When people were saying, Justine,
I'm going through all these uh its abuse. What's the
incentive to stay if you're just making up scenarios to
force a response? Yeah, I don't know. It's like clear
communication or not or whatever. And then we're done with
this man. You need to talk to your friend Veronica.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Well I have.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
She doesn't do that anymore, but it's got quite the response.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Once she did it you need to straighten her out or.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Yeah, or or cheap for real, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
You may as well because because if it looks like
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