June 15, 2026 • 10 mins
Carl is confused why his date Mina won't call him back after a great first date... Find out why he got ghosted!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Ever been left waiting by the phone. It's the Fredshell Carl,
Good morning, welcome to the program. How are you, uh
don okay, considering okay, all right, just okay, which is honest,
because you think maybe you've been ghosted. So tell us
about Mina, this woman, and then you know about how
you met, any dates you've been on, kind of all
(00:22):
the backstory fill us in.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yeah, but like you said, her her name is Mina.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I met her on a dating app.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
We chatted for a little bit on there, and then
we decided to meet up and we uh we went
to this uh this rest of this Italian place, my
favorite place, and it was it was a great day.
It was great, and and I never hear from her.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
So I'm, you know, maybe it wasn't great. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
I feel like I'm I'm I'm missing something because every.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Time I try to respond or I try to, you.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Know, reach out to her, I'm not getting anything back,
right ghosting.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
So I don't, you know, what was it something I did?
I don't know. I'm really in the dark over here.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
It's always kind of a risk when you meet someone
on the apps that the chemistry and person will be
what you hope it is. But hey, you're looking back
on this date, You're thinking, Hey, I thought it went
really well, conversation was good, I thought there was attraction
in chemistry and all that, except this woman is not
responding to you now for another date, and you kind
of want to know if I if I thought everything
went well, then what am I missing? Exactly right? Well, Carl,
(01:30):
let's play a song. Come back in a couple of minutes.
We'll call me that I will ask these questions. You'll
be on the phone. You're welcome to jump in at
some point, and the hope is always is that we
can straighten all of this out and set you guys
up on another date that we paid for.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Sound good? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that'd be great. Hey, Carl, Yeah,
welcome back.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Man. Let's call Mina. You met on one of the
dating apps. You went on a date, You went to
a you know, a nice spot that you picked out.
You thought everything went really well. You felt like the
conversation was flowing and the chemistry was good and there
was a connection. You walked away thinking, Hey, I'm going
to reach out to me, We're going to go on
another date. This is going someplace, except you did that,
and she has not responded to you, and you want
(02:06):
to know.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Why exactly exactly right?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yeah, all right, let's call Mina now, good luck. Hi
is his Mina, Hey, Mina, good morning. My name is Fred.
I'm calling for the Fred's Show, the morning radio show.
The whole crew is here. I have to tell you
that we are on the radio right now. I would
(02:30):
need your permission to continue with the call. Can we
chat for just a second on the air. You can
hang up anytime, m I guess okay, I'll take tennis.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yes, thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
We're calling on behalf of a dude named Carl who
you met on a dating app recently apparently and went
on a date with Italian restaurant.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Is it ring a bell?
Speaker 6 (02:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Okay, So he called us and had nice things to
say about you and that he was excited about you
and thought the date went well. He says he's reached
out since then for another date and you're not responding.
He feels like he's being ghosted. So what you know,
what's kind of your side of the story?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Is that true? Are you avoiding him?
Speaker 6 (03:07):
I mean, yeah, he seemed normal at first, and he
I don't know, it was just a weird situation. Do
you want me to tell you what happened?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Absolutely? We all we would like you to tell us
what happened.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Okay, So yeah, he asked us to can order for
the table, and you know, I thought that that made
sense because he took me to his favorite spot and
I'm not picky, and he ordered.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
Like a lot, like a ton of food, and I
would say it was an abnormal amount of food, and yeah,
that the dinner just got kind of weird from there,
and then I realized that he wasn't really eating much,
but he just kept insisting that I should eat and
try things. And then you know, after some time, you know,
(04:03):
we'd had some wine and everything. I finally was just like,
what is going on?
Speaker 5 (04:07):
What is the deal?
Speaker 6 (04:09):
And then he was like, I just want you to
eat so much that you feel sick.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
And that was why why would he want that?
Speaker 6 (04:17):
What's the Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:19):
And then he.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
Yeah, he said that he wanted to hook up, but
that I like, he's feeling sick.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
I think it was some sort of kink of his,
Like it was very weird.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
So he wanted you to like in gorge and eat
all the food. And then he wanted to go mess around, Like,
isn't that the exact opposite of how you get most
people to hook up with you? Like, I don't normally
think eat everything. Let's go to let's go to the
you know, Brazilian steakhouse and just all the meat on
a stick, and then let's go home and get it.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
On blue cheese crest. No thank you, no, thank you?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Ryan, So you think he was in because he's watching
you eat and then he wants to go home and
do some stuff and he thinks that's like something he's into.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
I think that used to do this so much that
I felt sick, and then he wanted to hook up.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
I've imaginally mentioned that Carl is here, the masochist. Carl,
what what?
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Okay, Look, it's it's not masochism, Okay, it's it's a
well known thing.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
It's called theaterism, all right, and.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Yeah, and yeah I'm into it.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
It's called I'm a feeder, all right.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
I've seed my partners and they get, you know, till
they're full, and then we have an amazing sexual experience together.
And you know, you know, you guys, you guys are
knocking it.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Have you ever tried it? No? You haven't, all right,
I mean not a purpose, yes, but not the first time.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah, I know it's usually like you know, the comfort
levels too high.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Yes, yes, it's way too high at that point.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
You know I'm getting I'm getting a lot of judgments
over here, and and and you know, I don't.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
I don't. I don't think I signed up for that
when I asked you, guys, no little help.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Okay, okay, well let's relax for a second, Carl. And
no one's judging you. I think we're trying to figure out. Okay,
well I'm not judging you. I'm trying to figure out,
you know, where's the turn on?
Speaker 5 (06:17):
Right?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
But for him that's his thing, feederism. Did you make
that up? Or is that real?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
No, there's a small community of us. We we are
small but vocal. You know, you guys are laughing. I mean,
I mean, you look it up. I think we're not thing.
And your passion is amazing.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
The sex, it's the best sex I've ever had when
I'm with a partner who is you know, filled to
the guilt stopping.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
If you, guys, if you got to come.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Down from your ivory power and listen to me for
a second, maybe you know you could see things.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
You have to eat though I don't get that. Yeah,
wouldn't this be like both.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Of you eat?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
No? Are you going? Are you guys listening? I'm the fever.
Speaker 7 (07:08):
I wish I would say, okay, okay, I have my
partner the food I provide doc and then once they're
you know, so.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
You feed up, you feed her and then y'all go
to beans and I'm like garlic butter and get it popping.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
And that's that. Well, it's amazing, It's absolutely amazing. I mean,
what did you want to say? Please?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I mean, Kinky's into this, so I guess Carling later,
But uh, what did you want to say, Mina because
you were trying to get in.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
Well, I just okay, here's the thing is, that's what
you're into whatever. But you need to disclose that to
somebody before you ask them on a date and start
making them do that. You should talk about it first.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
You know, this is the thing I'm married to not
I need you to cal him down, sir. No, he's
extremely passionate about his craft. Hungry, that's what I meant. Angry.
He doesn't get Carl.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I'm gonna let what what did you get to say
something else? What do you want to say?
Speaker 4 (08:10):
You know, it's it's I thought I had made some
references to that in our chats, you.
Speaker 6 (08:15):
Know, and.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Day you know, I'm not I'm not a mind reader,
all right. I don't have a crystal ball over here. Okay,
but I mean I think you know, from what from
what we talked about before, I was I would hope
that you would be, uh, you know, a little bit
more open minded about it, you know.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
And now here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Okay, we're talking about it now, and that's that's step
one to.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
In the process on the radio, in the conversion process. Yeah,
and you know too.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
You weren't upfront about it. And here's the thing. There's
the field app so you can go on there and.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
Yeah, say everything that you're into and like we did
there is you talk about it?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
One you have? You have no idea while?
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Is you?
Speaker 3 (09:07):
But no?
Speaker 1 (09:07):
You?
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Yeah, I mean I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
The number one way to get me to probably not
hook up with you, Like if you're on a day
with me and you don't want to mess around, like
just stuff food in my face, like you know, make
me eat more, because then I get home I feel disgusted.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Don't you feel tired too? Like the only thing I
want to do is get it on, Like I just
want to lay like a beach oil like vertically.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah, well, don't hey, be careful. Carl's getting turned on.
Yeah all right, Look, I mean i'll ask the question.
I think I know the answer. But would you be
interested in going out with Carl again?
Speaker 3 (09:41):
All right?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Not interested? Hey, Carl, Look, no one's judging you, no
one's king shaming you do whatever you do. I just
you got to realize. I think it's not going to
be for everybody.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
You knows are the most maligned thinks in this country.
And I think one day it's you know, one day
that the table's gonna, you know, be on the other
foot and it's gonna turn.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
He's going to be on the other front. Hush, and
you know, you know what, you know what I'm saying.
I'm sorry, I get you know what I mean. This
is just frustrating. I'm sorry that you're frustrated, Carl. Carl,
Yeah you think?
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Okay, Well, Kaylin's interested, excuse me, Kiky's interested. Paulina might
be interested. I'm not sure. You'll have to hit them
up separately. But all right, guys, thank you for your time,
best of luck to both of you.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
Yeah, thank you,
Ever been left waiting by the phone. It's the Fredshell Carl,
Good morning, welcome to the program. How are you, uh
don okay, considering okay, all right, just okay, which is honest,
because you think maybe you've been ghosted. So tell us
about Mina, this woman, and then you know about how
you met, any dates you've been on, kind of all
(00:22):
the backstory fill us in.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yeah, but like you said, her her name is Mina.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I met her on a dating app.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
We chatted for a little bit on there, and then
we decided to meet up and we uh we went
to this uh this rest of this Italian place, my
favorite place, and it was it was a great day.
It was great, and and I never hear from her.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
So I'm, you know, maybe it wasn't great. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
I feel like I'm I'm I'm missing something because every.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Time I try to respond or I try to, you.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Know, reach out to her, I'm not getting anything back,
right ghosting.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
So I don't, you know, what was it something I did?
I don't know. I'm really in the dark over here.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
It's always kind of a risk when you meet someone
on the apps that the chemistry and person will be
what you hope it is. But hey, you're looking back
on this date, You're thinking, Hey, I thought it went
really well, conversation was good, I thought there was attraction
in chemistry and all that, except this woman is not
responding to you now for another date, and you kind
of want to know if I if I thought everything
went well, then what am I missing? Exactly right? Well, Carl,
(01:30):
let's play a song. Come back in a couple of minutes.
We'll call me that I will ask these questions. You'll
be on the phone. You're welcome to jump in at
some point, and the hope is always is that we
can straighten all of this out and set you guys
up on another date that we paid for.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Sound good? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that'd be great. Hey, Carl, Yeah,
welcome back.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Man. Let's call Mina. You met on one of the
dating apps. You went on a date, You went to
a you know, a nice spot that you picked out.
You thought everything went really well. You felt like the
conversation was flowing and the chemistry was good and there
was a connection. You walked away thinking, Hey, I'm going
to reach out to me, We're going to go on
another date. This is going someplace, except you did that,
and she has not responded to you, and you want
(02:06):
to know.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Why exactly exactly right?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yeah, all right, let's call Mina now, good luck. Hi
is his Mina, Hey, Mina, good morning. My name is Fred.
I'm calling for the Fred's Show, the morning radio show.
The whole crew is here. I have to tell you
that we are on the radio right now. I would
(02:30):
need your permission to continue with the call. Can we
chat for just a second on the air. You can
hang up anytime, m I guess okay, I'll take tennis.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yes, thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
We're calling on behalf of a dude named Carl who
you met on a dating app recently apparently and went
on a date with Italian restaurant.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Is it ring a bell?
Speaker 6 (02:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Okay, So he called us and had nice things to
say about you and that he was excited about you
and thought the date went well. He says he's reached
out since then for another date and you're not responding.
He feels like he's being ghosted. So what you know,
what's kind of your side of the story?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Is that true? Are you avoiding him?
Speaker 6 (03:07):
I mean, yeah, he seemed normal at first, and he
I don't know, it was just a weird situation. Do
you want me to tell you what happened?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Absolutely? We all we would like you to tell us
what happened.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Okay, So yeah, he asked us to can order for
the table, and you know, I thought that that made
sense because he took me to his favorite spot and
I'm not picky, and he ordered.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
Like a lot, like a ton of food, and I
would say it was an abnormal amount of food, and yeah,
that the dinner just got kind of weird from there,
and then I realized that he wasn't really eating much,
but he just kept insisting that I should eat and
try things. And then you know, after some time, you know,
(04:03):
we'd had some wine and everything. I finally was just like,
what is going on?
Speaker 5 (04:07):
What is the deal?
Speaker 6 (04:09):
And then he was like, I just want you to
eat so much that you feel sick.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
And that was why why would he want that?
Speaker 6 (04:17):
What's the Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:19):
And then he.
Speaker 6 (04:22):
Yeah, he said that he wanted to hook up, but
that I like, he's feeling sick.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
I think it was some sort of kink of his,
Like it was very weird.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
So he wanted you to like in gorge and eat
all the food. And then he wanted to go mess around, Like,
isn't that the exact opposite of how you get most
people to hook up with you? Like, I don't normally
think eat everything. Let's go to let's go to the
you know, Brazilian steakhouse and just all the meat on
a stick, and then let's go home and get it.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
On blue cheese crest. No thank you, no, thank you?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Ryan, So you think he was in because he's watching
you eat and then he wants to go home and
do some stuff and he thinks that's like something he's into.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
I think that used to do this so much that
I felt sick, and then he wanted to hook up.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
I've imaginally mentioned that Carl is here, the masochist. Carl,
what what?
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Okay, Look, it's it's not masochism, Okay, it's it's a
well known thing.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
It's called theaterism, all right, and.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Yeah, and yeah I'm into it.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
It's called I'm a feeder, all right.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
I've seed my partners and they get, you know, till
they're full, and then we have an amazing sexual experience together.
And you know, you know, you guys, you guys are
knocking it.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Have you ever tried it? No? You haven't, all right,
I mean not a purpose, yes, but not the first time.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah, I know it's usually like you know, the comfort
levels too high.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Yes, yes, it's way too high at that point.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
You know I'm getting I'm getting a lot of judgments
over here, and and and you know, I don't.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
I don't. I don't think I signed up for that
when I asked you, guys, no little help.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Okay, okay, well let's relax for a second, Carl. And
no one's judging you. I think we're trying to figure out. Okay,
well I'm not judging you. I'm trying to figure out,
you know, where's the turn on?
Speaker 5 (06:17):
Right?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
But for him that's his thing, feederism. Did you make
that up? Or is that real?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
No, there's a small community of us. We we are
small but vocal. You know, you guys are laughing. I mean,
I mean, you look it up. I think we're not thing.
And your passion is amazing.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
The sex, it's the best sex I've ever had when
I'm with a partner who is you know, filled to
the guilt stopping.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
If you, guys, if you got to come.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Down from your ivory power and listen to me for
a second, maybe you know you could see things.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
You have to eat though I don't get that. Yeah,
wouldn't this be like both.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Of you eat?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
No? Are you going? Are you guys listening? I'm the fever.
Speaker 7 (07:08):
I wish I would say, okay, okay, I have my
partner the food I provide doc and then once they're
you know, so.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
You feed up, you feed her and then y'all go
to beans and I'm like garlic butter and get it popping.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
And that's that. Well, it's amazing, It's absolutely amazing. I mean,
what did you want to say? Please?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I mean, Kinky's into this, so I guess Carling later,
But uh, what did you want to say, Mina because
you were trying to get in.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
Well, I just okay, here's the thing is, that's what
you're into whatever. But you need to disclose that to
somebody before you ask them on a date and start
making them do that. You should talk about it first.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
You know, this is the thing I'm married to not
I need you to cal him down, sir. No, he's
extremely passionate about his craft. Hungry, that's what I meant. Angry.
He doesn't get Carl.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I'm gonna let what what did you get to say
something else? What do you want to say?
Speaker 4 (08:10):
You know, it's it's I thought I had made some
references to that in our chats, you.
Speaker 6 (08:15):
Know, and.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Day you know, I'm not I'm not a mind reader,
all right. I don't have a crystal ball over here. Okay,
but I mean I think you know, from what from
what we talked about before, I was I would hope
that you would be, uh, you know, a little bit
more open minded about it, you know.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
And now here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Okay, we're talking about it now, and that's that's step
one to.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
In the process on the radio, in the conversion process. Yeah,
and you know too.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
You weren't upfront about it. And here's the thing. There's
the field app so you can go on there and.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
Yeah, say everything that you're into and like we did
there is you talk about it?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
One you have? You have no idea while?
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Is you?
Speaker 3 (09:07):
But no?
Speaker 1 (09:07):
You?
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Yeah, I mean I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
The number one way to get me to probably not
hook up with you, Like if you're on a day
with me and you don't want to mess around, like
just stuff food in my face, like you know, make
me eat more, because then I get home I feel disgusted.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Don't you feel tired too? Like the only thing I
want to do is get it on, Like I just
want to lay like a beach oil like vertically.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah, well, don't hey, be careful. Carl's getting turned on.
Yeah all right, Look, I mean i'll ask the question.
I think I know the answer. But would you be
interested in going out with Carl again?
Speaker 3 (09:41):
All right?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Not interested? Hey, Carl, Look, no one's judging you, no
one's king shaming you do whatever you do. I just
you got to realize. I think it's not going to
be for everybody.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
You knows are the most maligned thinks in this country.
And I think one day it's you know, one day
that the table's gonna, you know, be on the other
foot and it's gonna turn.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
He's going to be on the other front. Hush, and
you know, you know what, you know what I'm saying.
I'm sorry, I get you know what I mean. This
is just frustrating. I'm sorry that you're frustrated, Carl. Carl,
Yeah you think?
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Okay, Well, Kaylin's interested, excuse me, Kiky's interested. Paulina might
be interested. I'm not sure. You'll have to hit them
up separately. But all right, guys, thank you for your time,
best of luck to both of you.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
Yeah, thank you,
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Betrayal Weekly is back for a new season. Every Thursday, Betrayal Weekly shares first-hand accounts of broken trust, shocking deceptions, and the trail of destruction they leave behind. Hosted by Andrea Gunning, this weekly ongoing series digs into real-life stories of betrayal and the aftermath. From stories of double lives to dark discoveries, these are cautionary tales and accounts of resilience against all odds. From the producers of the critically acclaimed Betrayal series, Betrayal Weekly drops new episodes every Thursday. If you would like to share your story, you can reach out to the Betrayal Team by emailing them at betrayalpod@gmail.com and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod and @glasspodcasts. Please join our Substack for additional exclusive content, curated book recommendations, and community discussions. Sign up FREE by clicking this link Beyond Betrayal Substack. Join our community dedicated to truth, resilience, and healing. Your voice matters! Be a part of our Betrayal journey on Substack.