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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, I want to talk about well, well, I

(00:02):
want to hear Kaylen's questions about heated Rivalry.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
This show so hit the intro p.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
It's the tangent giving you all this shit we couldn't
talk about on the air. All right, So heat a Rivalry.
I have not watched this. People are talking about it.
What is the premise? And some peacock is it?

Speaker 3 (00:19):
It is on HBO.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
It's on eh I was gonna say that's yeah, okay,
so it's on HBO, and what is the premise? Broke
Back Mount with hockey.

Speaker 4 (00:26):
By the way, I'm really upset that you haven't watched
it yet, Like I really need your commentary more than
I need a lot of things in this life.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
But it is based on It's very rare. Do I
hear that?

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Kaylen's gotta hear what I think about something? Okay, I'm
gonna go watch it.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Noow, I need it in the worst way.

Speaker 4 (00:42):
I'm telling you, Like I'm not joking when I tell
you that I need you to.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Watch the show.

Speaker 4 (00:47):
But it's based on a book series I guess, which
I did not know honestly, Like over Break, I was
just scrolling on social and I kept hearing people talk
about it, and I saw the words gay and hockey,
gay and hockey, and I was like, okay, I'm in.
So it's about two hockey players, professional hockey players who
in the public are rivals. Like they came in at

(01:08):
the same rookie season and they've kind of been the
best on their teams throughout their entire rise to you know,
becoming really.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Successful hockey players.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
But behind the scenes, they were hooking up and eventually
falling for each other and they kept this up for
like years.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
So yeah, all right, And so you had some questions
that resulted from this show, which are questions about a
gay relationship.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yes, for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
And so I mean, I know, I know a lot
of people are a lot of straight women love the show,
which is like something that everyone's been trying to figure
out what's going on. And I know there are some
straight women who have never seen gay sex. Before gay
sex well all at my mother who was figuring out
that they can do missionary and I'm like, yes, mom, welcome.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
But something I.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Learned that as a child, You're right, yeah, no, I
learned that from an episode of the Real World. I
can't remember which season, but it was one one season
and they uh, and one of the guys was gay.
I mean it was like not one of the OG
seasons and maybe it was like I can't remember which
one anyway, and they like got it on and they
had missionary gay sex, and I was like, I.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Guess, I guess, I guess you can.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
I mean, like, I just never I guess I thought
there was only one way to do it, because Jason,
wouldn't you agree, it's typically that the actual that that
kind of sex is usually only portrayed one way.

Speaker 5 (02:35):
Yeah, yeah, I think like if you're portraying it to
the masses, people just automatically think that gay dudes do
a doggy style.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Right.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
So yeah, So so Caylen's mom and I were both
at different times of our lives.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
She was like, wait, wait, what's called wait?

Speaker 4 (02:52):
And I'm like, yep, exactly what yep, yep. So we
finally got pan there. Now I did know that I
knew about the missionary thing. But what my question was is,
because you know, how y'all have you know, G spots
in your anus?

Speaker 3 (03:06):
You guys know that, right?

Speaker 2 (03:07):
You do?

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (03:12):
Man?

Speaker 4 (03:12):
Have that?

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Okay, So there's okay, well, you know everybody show us
your right.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Okay, so damn, my thing is like.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
That away, so you can orgasm from your butt.

Speaker 7 (03:34):
Right, yeah, because the press state is there, okay.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
So what my question was, and I mean, you know
everybody is everybody above board?

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Can I ask the question.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
To get everyone to show the spot everybody about.

Speaker 8 (03:52):
They got spot out now? She asked him for that before.

Speaker 7 (03:58):
Already, hr is not the room with us, you did
not have you have all my concent.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
So you can orgasm from your booty hooley. My question
is do you ejaculate when you orgasm from your booty hole?

Speaker 3 (04:23):
And that was a.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
Very genuine question because you know, I orgasm from the
same spot where stuff's coming out from, you know what
I mean. So I was just a little bit curious
if that happens, and then Jason's answer took me by surprise.

Speaker 5 (04:41):
Well, I mean the short answer is, I guess I
don't In a way, I don't know because every time
that I've been in that position, I am pleasuring myself
at the same time, So I don't know if I
was like completely hands free, like look my no hands
and like finished, if it would come out. Yeah, that's

(05:05):
the thing I don't know, because usually when you're in
that position, especially missionary, even though it's it's difficult, sometimes
you want to try to keep it up because I mean,
it's very rare. I'm sure you guys know that men's
parts look good, not up. So to keep the sexy

(05:26):
you try to keep hard. But it's difficult because sometimes
you're in pain, but like you still, you know, keep
it going.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
So that's what I said to him.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
I said, when it's my time to, you know, try
to reach that point, like I really need to like
focus and like nobody move, like.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
The thought of having a diddle and take it and
do this and do that. I'm like, wow, you are
a multitasker. So I guess we don't know the answer.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
But I was just very curious about that because even
there are moments where you know they were doing it
like I'm.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Behind but like holding each other. It's it's romantic.

Speaker 5 (06:03):
It might be better gays that and more experienced that,
no more than me, But I don't know. I I
guess because I don't see how you would orgasm without
it coming out, like that's impossible. So I guess if
you're just getting milked, then like it'll still come.

Speaker 7 (06:17):
Out even if you do nothing.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
If I remember in high school our like sex head
teacher or whatever sex said unit or whatever. She insisted
that the male orgasm and ejaculation are not inherently tied together,
that it's possible to have one without the other. I've
never experienced that. I've never had an orgasm that didn't

(06:40):
result in you know, something happened right right right exactly now.
But apparently, like that's the whole tantric thing, is that
you can supposedly you can, you're it's it's and I
don't know if it has anything to do with what
we're talking about her, if it's something entirely, or if
it even is limited to that, but supposedly they're not linked,

(07:03):
but in my experience they're they're linked.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Perfectly, So like I don't, I don't.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
I've never had it like where they weren't SYNCD up completely,
so I guess I don't know.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Oh I'm looking at up. It's called a dry orgasm.

Speaker 7 (07:16):
That would almost sit for me.

Speaker 5 (07:17):
I think it would freak me out because you're when
you're so used to it one way, like your whole.

Speaker 7 (07:21):
Life, and then all of a sudden that happens, I'd
be like, what's wrong?

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah, how does it work? Kay?

Speaker 4 (07:26):
So exactly like you were saying, it's a phenomenon, which
that's hysterical, but it can happen, right it is. It
can happen intentionally like you said, as in tantric practices
or semen retention, or unintentionally due to medical conditions surgeries
like prostate removal, certain medications or nerve issues were.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
Pleasure I felt.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
I've heard about the air coming. I have heard about guys.
I know, guys that have had their prostates taken out
and they still have an orgasm but nothing comes out.
But that's because the part isn't there anymore. So like
that kind of makes sense. But I guess the theory is,
like if you believe in all the tantric stuff or whatever,
typically guys, and again I don't know the science behind this,
but Jason, you can tell me if you agree here.

(08:12):
But like, typically we reach that point that happens and
then there's a reset that has to happen before we
could do it again. And when you're young, it can
happen really fast, but like usually there's a break, And
I think the idea in this sort of having this
this whatever you're called whatever it's called the orgasm that
doesn't result in any physiological sort of thing happening, would

(08:34):
be that you could have multiple like women. I think
it's the idea so that you wouldn't be limited by
shutting down and then starting up again. I think that's
why people try and achieve this, because because of how
it typically seems to work. And again I don't know
the biology behind all of it, but like, wouldn't you
say even the ladies, wouldn't you say? Most guys like
you do your thing, he does his thing, and then

(08:56):
you're kind of done for a minute, and then maybe
you do it again. But it's a one time it's
a one shot deal, no pun intended.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
I've had experiences where men could go again, like right
after immediately.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah, they didn't get softened and hard again.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
I guess. I mean we went again right away.

Speaker 5 (09:22):
Usually a tickles, usually yeah, like afterwards, like if it's
more like.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yeah, it's like really really sensitive. It takes a couple
of minutes to become desensitized. I mean I've gone within
five minutes of each other. But like my point would
be in the same session you would go multiple times,
and that's what like women can if done correctly, and
guys typically can't do that unless you master this thing.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Oh I thought you were saying guys can't make women
do that?

Speaker 4 (09:53):
Okay to say that too, maybe Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
There it's one pop per session, and I think the
idea is if you really truly can have like this
mind control, then you could have multiple percession and obviously
that would be an enhanced experience.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
But I've never been able to achieve that. I've never seen.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
It, so a few minutes in between is not same session.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
It's like you take a yeah, no, yeah, like I
think they call it like refractory refractory.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
There's, yeah, a period of time where it like sort
of needs to sort of reset.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Okay, got it, then maybe that's what happened.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
But like I learned about the first time I ever
heard about tantric sex was American Pie that movie Oh really,
where what's his name? The nerdy guy who hooks up
with Stiffer's mom. Oh my god, that's his thing. It's
tantric sex. But supposedly, yeah, Finch, but according to those,
according to like the tantric people, you can you can

(10:47):
like have this control where it's way more pleasurable. But
I get I guess I don't have the discipline. I've
never been able to achieve that myself.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
I learned about it from Sting. I'll never forget, yes,
Like do you know that because of Sting?

Speaker 4 (11:02):
Right?

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Sting does like.

Speaker 7 (11:06):
Famously like really good at it, right.

Speaker 5 (11:08):
Like doesn't he do like sixteen hours sex like sex
session right right?

Speaker 2 (11:14):
A little taco bell break or something.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
Jesus So just like I think reading that news and
being a millennial, I think I was.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
That's how I learned about tantric sat. It was also yeah,
and sex in the City. There was like a whole episode.

Speaker 6 (11:24):
I remember that they went to like a Tan Trick
sex oh, like a class. Yeah, was it for Charlotte
because her man was like falling asleep or something during sex,
So they were like, let's go to this class.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Yeah, And there was like a man landing out on
the floor and his wife was like.

Speaker 6 (11:41):
Yeah, doing milking, milking him literally and showing she go
on to Tan Trick and she was doing the whole thing,
and then he just like fucking combusted everything.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Didn't want to get hit in the face.

Speaker 6 (11:49):
Somemantha or with like I think one of a man.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
It's a great show. Yeah, I spare time.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
Yeah, okay, yeah, so US millennials were exposed to it
a lot.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yes, is that was that? Was that your only query?

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (12:14):
I didn't mean to do that.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
That one has had my mind in a pretzel for
for some time now, and I still don't feel like
I have it answered. But I do know it's an
important show because I think a lot of people have
questions that are a little bit dumber than mine. I
feel like some people are very surprised. Some people didn't
even know that that wasn't on the menu every single time, you.

Speaker 7 (12:35):
Know, yeah special occasions. Well yeah, that really that was
a surprise to me.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
I was telling you guys last week that I when
I went to in college, well I did one semester
in England and I lived. I shared a bathroom with
a guy. It was like sweet mates, whatever you want
to call it, with a guy with a gay dude.
And this would have been ninety nine, two thousand, two
thousand and one somewhere in there, like, and I have
to say it's crazy to say, but twenty five years ago,

(13:01):
people didn't talk like this, especially about about almost sexual
stuff like it was. It was still sort of a
little taboo, which is is wild. It's wild to think
about that, honestly, and a little shameful on as well.
But he and I it was one of the first
gay men I had, honest could have honest conversation with
him and who would answer my questions about this stuff.

(13:23):
And that was one that really blew my mind because
straight people we just it's always almost always penetration, you
know what, Ninety percent of the time there's spent unless
it's like some one off. And so I guess I
figured that's what gay guys did too, And he was like,
oh no, no, no, no, like it takes preparation. It's
like I need to know. I could put you know,
calendar invite. I guess twenty five years ago there wasn't one.

(13:45):
We actually to write it down antal sex night, you know,
but righted it was like a not every time thing.

Speaker 5 (13:56):
Yeah, no, it's not, honestly, I mean I could probably,
I mean, in our fourteen years together, less than twenty
times probably we've ever done that in fourteen years, Like
I don't know, because then you also just get used
to like doing it doing other things and then that
just becomes a norm, you know.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
So now it's almost like, however you want to reach,
you know what you're trying to reach.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
I don't give a hell.

Speaker 7 (14:18):
Right, it's less risk and you know, less pain.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
Right, So what works for you?

Speaker 7 (14:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (14:25):
But yeah, I really need everyone to watch the show,
and nobody's watching it. It's upsetting for me.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
All right, well let me I don't know. I guess
I've had other stuff to do. But now I'll go
watch it and I'll let you know what I think
about it.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
There's nothing else to do. It's heated rival.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Except except watch heated rivalry.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Yes, it's spicy though.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
All right, well, let me cancel this meeting.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
I got I mean, sorry, charitable organization I'm meeting with.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
I gotta go watching on HBO.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
So sorry. By that, Caylen says she's dying. She won't
be able to survive another twenty four hours if I
don't give her my perspective. And I'm so honored that
she cares so much that I have to care ansel
this meeting.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
I'm sorry, Yes, this is true.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
I want it on my desk by Monday.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Wow, so I have a week.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Then, I mean, I'm tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Okay, you want to know your desk by tuesday?

Speaker 4 (15:12):
Y Well, it depends on when everyone's listening to this,
But I just want it, okay.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Okay, all right, fair enough, fair enough? Did you finish
my Tupac book yet?

Speaker 6 (15:21):
No?

Speaker 3 (15:22):
I did not finish your Tupac book yet.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
No.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
I think you really would like it. But I'm done
pushing this book because I did try and book the
author and he ghosted me. So I'm sad about that.
To be honest, I know I love it.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
I just I have not been in a space where
I've been able to focus.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
You've been watching too many gay sex shows that experience exactly.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
You know what you're right?

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Which is fair? Which is fair? I mean you know
your interests are your interest You can't hide that.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
You know.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
He called me out. Yes, that's what my attention.

Speaker 5 (15:49):
Get a little tingle at all, just a little bit
maybe like oh this is hot.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Like oh beyond That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
That's why everyone online is like so confused, because straight
women are horny for this and my Okay, we need
to talk about their asses like I could the one
who plays the Russian dude.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
I could set this here coffee right on his ass.
But yeah, they're both hot.

Speaker 7 (16:11):
Yeah they are hot. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
So yeah, I wish I had an ass. I don't
have an ass. I wish I did me too.

Speaker 6 (16:18):
That's a thing now though, we're getting we're getting these
removed these Uh.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yeah, I saw that. I saw you wrote that down today.
So people are getting I realized a lot of people
are taking their breast implants out because they they're finding
that they're unhealthy. People are undoing their bbls. Though I
didn't know that.

Speaker 6 (16:35):
I guess I think because it's the new wave now,
which like and I'm not like promoting this ma any means,
but like I guess it's like, you know, being like
skinny wave or whatever. Even the Kardashians are getting. I
don't know if it's whatever like implants in their ass.

Speaker 7 (16:47):
Or if it's just fast people are letting their filler.

Speaker 6 (16:51):
People are coming out of yeah, like more natural. And
that's very interesting because like it couldn't be me, like
I'm keeping this ass like that's skinny, but like I'm like,
that's is thing. However, I've said this before. It too
like when I'm running on the treadmill or whatever, like
I feel like my ass is like hurting, so I
don't know if I did something to it with the BBL,
like besides hurt.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
What's interesting, you guys is that people I feel like
growing up or maybe in the last twenty years until recently,
and everyone blames everything on Instagram or social media. But
I thought that the trick used to be getting plastic
surgery that was so good that you weren't sure that
someone got it, and like did they or didn't they?

(17:32):
And now I like a very nuanced and now I
feel like the objective is to go so far that
everybody knows you did it. You know, Go get a BBL,
Go get a boob job, go have your face, you know,
plumped up. And I think some people even have a
problem stopping and they take it too far. It's almost
like a body dysmorphia kind of thing that's developed. But
I can remember growing up, you know, like a girl

(17:53):
in my in my class got a nose job and
and it was it was a little bit I'm not
gonna say shame, but there's she certainly wasn't, but you know,
boasting from the rooftop that she got it. And the
whole thing was she went to the best plastic surgeon
because like they wanted to I think it would make
the nose smaller, but they didn't want to make it
look like it was had been done, so it was

(18:15):
an extremely natural looking and I feel like we've gotten
away from extremely natural and now it's like almost it's
a little unnatural the way that some of this stuff
is making people look. But that seems to be what
people are going for.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Yeah, you don't see that.

Speaker 8 (18:30):
I feel like every couple of years, the trend, it's
like a trend. Everybody goes and gets this cosmetic procedure,
and then ten years later it's like, oh, that's out
of style. Now this like first it was all about tits,
then it was all about ass. Now it's getting back.
Now it's all about thin and then now you know,
ten years from now, i'd be back to tits. Like
I don't know, like just I don't know. We all
don't need to look the same. That's just you know,

(18:50):
that's somebody. Yeah, somebody got to be fat, skinny, tall, short,
you know, ass, no, ass, you know, it's whatever makes
you unique.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
I just think I think people were.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Maybe we have more to look at, like maybe because
of social media there's just more to compare ourselves to
than there was. But I can just remember a time
where it was, you know that you wanted the result
of the plastic surgery, but you wanted it to be
kind of seamless, like nobody knew. And now I feel like, no, no, no,
I want you to know. I did it like big time.
And then again some of this ozempic stuff and whatever.

(19:21):
I kind of wonder if it becomes an obsession in
some ways, because there are people I know who take
it all jokes aside, who will tell you like I
can't stop, you know, like I know I've gone too far,
but it's hard to not take it anymore because I
think they're afraid of going backwards. But there are people
I know who are taking GLP ones who I think

(19:43):
would look better if they gained a few more pounds back,
And a couple of them have told me that they agree,
But I think again, it's like, well, if I stopped
taking it, then I might gain too many pounds back.
So it's kind of a slippery slope. It feels like, yeah,
you can.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
Get like blindness from something, you know, if you do it,
and then you you.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Look at it every day.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
I feel like it's easier for yourself to like not
be able to see what you're actually doing than other people.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
But it definitely goes. It's with the trends.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
I mean, I think you're right.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
Like the nineties supermodels, like Christy, Cindy, all those girls,
they kind of started beauty trends, and then the Kardashians
came and then it was okay to have curves quote unquote,
you know, which it was always okay, But I think
it's just it goes with trends.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
I guess, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
I think what's also sad is that there are people
and it doesn't matter what I think, because it matters
only what the person thinks. But there are people who
I think looked better before. They looked healthier, they look
you know, but they were insecure about the way they looked,
or they felt that they should be insecure about the
way they look, so then they changed it and so
they're skinnier now, But that doesn't necessarily mean that they're

(20:52):
more attractive to other people, which again, it doesn't really
matter what other people think. It matters how you feel
about yourself. But I'm always sad about that, Like you
went and did all this to lose a little bit
of weight that actually I think made you kind of
filled you out and made you look like a happy,
healthy person.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
Yeah, I'll tell you what I'm sad about.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
I look back at old pictures where I thought I
was big in them, and I'm like, what I wouldn't
give to look like that? Like that's crazy, Like how
warped our opinion of ourself is that. Now I'll see
a photo of myself that I picked apart and I'm like, damn,
she was a battie.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
Like it's just crazy, that's real.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can remember when I wanted to
gain weight and now I have a hard time losing it.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
I'm careful what you wish for.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
I guess all right, Well, thank you Jason for the
gay sex education. We learned something about tantra, which is wonderful.
It's an art all never master, But that would be
something if I could just jizz all the time, but
without jizzing. Though, imagine that if you're just getting off
all the time with no jizz, like no mess, no
no stress, no mess.

Speaker 7 (21:52):
Sounds good, but I think I'd be freaked out.

Speaker 8 (21:55):
You would.

Speaker 7 (21:56):
Where is it? Especially when you're used to something.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
You know, well, I said it good.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
But you know, there's been those documentaries or like shows
on TLC or whatever about those like women that come
without doing anything. Have you ever seen those? There's like
a condition where you just by walking you get off
and apparently it's it's debilitating. Like you think it would
be amazing. You're like, oh my god, can you imagine
just orgasming all day? But then these people are like, no,
I can't. I can't like walk from my desks and
to get coffee without getting It's apparently it's a problem.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
It happened to my friend at the gym when she
was really crunches.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
Yeah, yeah, which I learned was like a thing.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
But she was like I didn't know what to do.
Like I just sat back and like let it happen.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
Yeah, I don't know, Like a surprise jizz would be nice,
but I mean, but I can't.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Actually that's happening. Like if I'm at the gym and
I'm like shaking and like.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
My face looks weird, like like.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
I don't know how she played it cool. I can't
like do that.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
I hear what you're saying, but I know, I mean
these are people though, who can't do anything. Yeah, supposedly,
you know. They can't walk down the street. They can't
like everything they do results in some kind of stimulation.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Sarah is really excited to see me.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Yeah no, she has a condition. Sorry, she doesn't actually
give a shit about you. She just has this coming thing.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Damn.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
Yeah, that'd be tough to get anything else done.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
All right, there's the tangent. Have a good day, everyone,
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