February 4, 2026 • 26 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I love I love a lot of tangent.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
I love the tangent. I love it. Hit the thing.
HiT's the tangent giving you all the ship we couldn't
talk about on the air. I love it, hit it,
I love it. I'm scary what I love the tangent.
I mean, I just don't have a lot of words.
I'm out of words. I've used all my words in
the last five hours. I don't have anything. Let me
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go through our little sheet of stuff we didn't get
to today. Jason, you are fulfilling your dream of making
walking tacos for dinner tonight. Mike is going to hate
it because all he want is roast.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Yeah, that's so true.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
I'm so freaking excited to make walking tacos. How long
has the ben since you've had a walking taco?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Okay, so you get like the little Frido's bag.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I'm doing dorito, you're cheese flavored.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Now you doing like the full size bag? Or are
you doing like.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Those up of ones, like the one ounce one.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
So nacho cheese doritos, and what happens?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Then you fill it with all of your taco favorites.
So I'm getting obviously making ground beef. Sorry, kailin cheese, lettuce,
sour cream. I have some holopenio, some hot sauce.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Are you going to use the actual bag or you
pull it into it? Yeah? Okay, wow, pull.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
It into a bowl. Pour it into a bowl. But
I don't know. I kind of want to eat out
of the bag.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Then you put all this stuff in the bag, you
seal it, and then you crunch it up, crunch it up,
gunch it up, you open it and you eat it
with a fork.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yeah. I don't know how you couldn't be happy about that.
Like if I came home and that was there for
me after a long, hard day at work, I would
be like, my wife is awesome. That's what Mike should
be saying.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
So it's like, can't you just make something normal? Like
I don't know his mom.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Made like more chops and roasted chicken and pot roast
every night.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
It's like, no, Like I I want to do something different.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I'd be so happy. Yeah, I'd be happy cooking for
someone if they cleaned it all. Like I cook all
you want if you hate it, especially if someone else
if someone shopped and I'll cook all day, I'll cook
every day.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
You have to clean if somebody else cooked.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
That's the rule. I don't. Yeah, I don't want to clean.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
So that to my households well okay.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Really, if you cook for Big timmy won't clean.
Speaker 6 (02:12):
He will clean, but it's not to my standard. I like,
I love the man, but when he washes dishes, I
go back, I see little like piece of corn left.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
I'm like, you have a dishwasher, I know.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
But you would know. I have trauma and I don't
use my dishwasher.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Now tell me again, why don't you because you couldn't
as a kid.
Speaker 6 (02:28):
Yes, literally, we had a perfectly fine dishwasher in our
house and we were not allowed to use it. And
the one time I tried to sneak and use it,
I use dish detergent and there were down bubbles all
down the street. So yes, there were yep.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
No, But isn't there Isn't that why you have one
as an adult, so that you can sort of avenge
and you then can use it and be like, look,
I'm a grown up with grown up money and a
grown up dishwasher, and I'm going to use it now.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
It's trauma, bro, I don't know the same reason I
walk around my house and turn off all unnecessary lights
even here. You know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
That's how I protest. The lights are on, like because
we had to turn them off as kids, and like,
no lights on this and that. Every light is on
in the house.
Speaker 7 (03:10):
My dad used to say to me, honey, go over
there and turn that light on it and I'd go why,
and he'd go, because I want to.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
I want you to be perfect. I want every single
light in the house to be turned on by you.
And I was like, because he was.
Speaker 7 (03:21):
Very like, oh, I couldn't leave the dryer on when
we left the house because apparently they can cause a fire.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Well, you guys know my dad and still scared.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
So I stop it.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
I do it, but I'm scared.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Really great, thank you for that, because now that's what
I think about, that I didn't need all.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
That lit rolling around and then it gets so hot.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
It'll be fine, but I'm still scared of I mean,
the one day I leave.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
The house is on bier. Yeah, you married to a fireman.
Imagine the headline.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
The headline covered in like the news hand entertainer report
news life of firefighter car the headline freaking news You're
gonna break it, Kaitlin, I'm letting you break it.
Speaker 7 (04:05):
Oh, if you guys ever get into anything, you heard
it here first.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
I have a propane grill on my balcony on in
the high rise building I live in, which I don't
think that's a loud. I don't know I have it.
I don't know, but like maybe twice a week, even
in the winter, all grill something, you know, just because
I think it's I don't know's healthier. I don't know.
I made hamburgers last night. Every night I got into
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a little chicken.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
You put it like a winter coat on.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
No, because it's like my I could almost open the
door to my balcony. I could almost grill from the house,
like almost like it's like, you know, it's like three
feet of balcony. It's like there's nothing. It's a grill
is the balcony basically, but like every time I turn
it on to warm it up. You know, in the city,
you'll hear like sirens all the time, And every time
I hear like a firefighter siren that has nothing to
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do with me. But I spin around, I'm like, am
I burning the building down? Every time? It never failed.
I'll turn the grill on and then rare, and I'm like,
I'm getting arrested. I'm going to jail. But it has
nothing to do with me, because of course it's not.
You know, fine, But I don't think anything would happen.
I mean, it's like a little burner, it would run
out of propane. I mean, it's not going to catch fire.
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Like nothing's going to happen.
Speaker 7 (05:17):
I'm convinced I'm gonna I don't know where that trauma
came from. But every time before I leave, I checked
the stove like five times, even if I didn't cook
anything on the stove.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
What I can't believe is I know multiple people whose
homes have burned down. Whoa wow, Like I just met
someone the other day, Okay, where ibody ill know you?
Like I met someone the other day, like a new
friend whose house burned down on the Palisades fire. And
it's like, but we we know we know another guy.
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I actually know people now, multiple people whose homes have
burned down, which is a wild thing to think about,
Like everything they have is gone, everything every like can
you imagine like literally everything, like everything, any little random
thing that you like don't even think about, gone like
it's just a crazy thing. It's an awful thing to happen.
(06:05):
But yeah, no, apparently I'm the common denominator, which means
I must be the arsonist suspicious.
Speaker 7 (06:10):
But yeah, living in an apartment building you have to
put a lot of trust in a lot of people.
And like recently there was a huge like smoke situation
and they had to shut down all the elevators. It's like,
we really have to trust so many to like stay
in line, unplug their straighteners.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I try not to think about that because I live
high up and like I'm not saying this, there are
many people above me.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Like the penthouse.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Well I'm in the penthouse. It's in the middle of
the building. Yes, it's called the middle of penthouse. It's
called the cheap seats. But no, I guess I can
just hear it now, oh for it, And it was, Yeah,
they are like one hundred of them.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
But we have to if we work or do.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
You live in the city is a fucking high rise.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
You've been working forty years, whatever you got you work for, man.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
That is you want me to stop you. You're not
allowed to have success by the way, You're not and
you're certainly not allowed to talk about it. If you do,
it's not a good thing to do. No, uh uh,
you're not allowed. But where was I going with? Oh?
I think about this all the time, like if if that,
if something burned.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Below me, Oh yeah, we'd be cooked.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah. I mean, I don't know how I would get
down fifty some stories.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
It'd be old shoe man. You.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
So, what's funny is I do? So I am a
skydiver and my parachute rig is in my home because
it's very they're very expensive, so I keep it in
my house. But the thing is, so in theory, I
could I thought about this. In theory, I could jump
off the balcony and just base jump basically, which I'll
tell you the truth. If it came down to it.
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This is real. If it came down to it, like
if the building were burning and I either burn in
the building do or die, or I jump off the
balcony and try and survive. That way, I would jump,
because like, what are your options? You have to try, right,
don't end up on lake right. No, honestly, I thought
about this. What I would do is because it takes.
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It takes the main canopy like ten or fifteen seconds
about a thousand feet to fully open, which my building
is not that tall. If you're jumping from thirteen thousand feet,
then you know you open your parachute at four or
five thousand feet and then or lower and then you
know you're it's open by the time. So like the
problem would be the main canopy wouldn't open fully in
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time for me to hit go splat. So but then
there's a there's a reserve canopy, so that when you parachute,
you have two parachutes on you. You have an emergency
like a backup, and then you have a main. The
backup opens a lot faster, it's a lot smaller. So
what I would do is I would actually climb the building.
I would go to the top and try and go
to the highest point that I could, and I would
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jump off.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
There like the stairs.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I don't know the thing. I guess I'd go bang
on someone's unit and hope they'd let me in or something,
because like, I don't know how.
Speaker 7 (08:48):
Well you'd have to hold them then, and you both
have to parachute down to Michige.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
No, I'd be like, hey, tough shit, I'm using your balcony.
You're you're I mean, is not gonna work that way.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
I would be like, can I koala you?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yeah? And let's it wouldn't work.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
You could go to the roof.
Speaker 6 (09:02):
They tell you at a certain point in the high
rise to go to the roof anyway, right if there's
a fire.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
But our roof is not accessible, Oh okay, it's way
up there. So but yeah, I would try. I would
try and get to the roof and then I would
jump off of there because I would have more it'd
be higher. You'd want to jump off the highest possible thing.
And then I would open the reserve parachute and I
would just go right to the reserve instead of using
the main And I think I would live. Honestly, I
think I would live because I would only need the
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margin of era would be very slim, like there'd be
a lot that could go wrong. I don't recommend it.
You shouldn't do it, But I'm.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Just saying, if you have the capability to jump out
of a plane, then you should think in your mind
you can survive.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
You just but I don't. It's not the right equipment.
It's not like a base jumping rig like the guys
who jump off bridges and stuff. They hold the canopy
in their hand so that there's nothing for it to
get caught. Like if you ever watch them there, they're
holding the pilot chute in their hand or the canopy.
It's like, I think it's a pilot chute. I've never
base jumped, so that like there's nothing because they only have.
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You know, a ridge is only what like three four
five hundred feet up six hundred whatever, it is, so
like nothing. They don't have time for the canopy to
come out and open the same way, you know what
I'm saying, because because you're falling quickly right and the
parachute has to fully open.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
To get the air to make it flaw so that
you can fly.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
But like that takes a couple hundred feet to do,
or in my case in the skydiving rig, it takes
like eight hundred to one thousand feet, So like I
wouldn't have enough, I wouldn't fall enough for it to
fully open. Which is why the base jumping rigs are
much it's much more simple, simplified because like they literally
are opening their own canopy as they jump because so
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that it opens right away. Because you ever watch a
bass jumper, they're holding onto their pilot choote. They'll jump
and then they'll go like one, two and they'll throw
their own shoot and it just opens really fast. So
I would need that kind of rig to really make
sure that I survive because people do that. They clim
buildings all the time illegally and base jump off of buildings.
If you get a it's like a you get arrested
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for it. But if the building were on fire, then
fuck it. I'm gonna do that. But the problem is
I don't have that kind of parachute. I have like
the regular kind of paras on.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
Amazon, right, you have it because then once you once
you survive, then they are going to put the pieces
together though they're going to be like, so you know
a bunch of people who house burned down, You're building
caught on fire. The only person that's.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Motherfucker, and you had a parachute to get away.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
You had a grilled hot dog in your hands. You
were landing because you didn't want to waste it because
you know, it was a good hot dog. It was
Vienna beef, it was high quality.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
But that's so funny. I really thought that.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I honestly sat on my couch and thought about that,
like if that thing started to burn, Like could I
use that parachute to save my life? And I think
I'd have to try.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Now, what what kind of mag you keep it in?
Because what if like a moth ate a hole through.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
It or something, Well, that would be a problem. I
don't have a lot of moths. Well I don't have moths.
I don't have I don't have any of those either.
But no, it's just in my closet because like when
I was skydiving, I mean I started skyd having twenty
years ago, I had it made. You have a made
to like custom to your body. What you have the
parachute measured, made to measure.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Yeah, so you would like pick your colors and oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah, yeah, the whole parashute. I picked gray and blue
and green, and my canopy. I picked the stripes on it.
They're gray matches and my name's like monogrammed on it.
Oh yeah, oh yeah. I was a lot fucking skinnier
when I had that thing made. But it's adjustable a
little bit, like a little.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Isn't there a lover that you can kind of a
little bit turn? Or am I making that up a lever?
I don't know you can't see it at all, Like
there's no way to change.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
When you're in the air, you can steer, Yeah, what
do you pull on? Oh you've got toggling now. The
round parachutes you can't really steer, Like if you ever
see the guys in the military jump out of planes
and they got like the round parachute.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
We must have a different algorithm.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
You're kind of just going where you go. You can't
steer those very well. But the ones that are rectangular,
like the modern ones, like the ones you if you
went skydiving, you jumped out of a plane, had a
mom a rectangular parachute, you steer it by pulling on
each side each toggle left and right, and you can
stear those pretty pretty accurately, Like you can, like pretty precisely.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
Well, I would break that.
Speaker 7 (13:11):
Story too, of you, like man jumps out of apartment.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I mean, I think you'd have to try, I really,
I mean, if what else you do, I'm.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Good, I can't.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
You gotta jump, like if you are for sure this
is a horrible thing to think about. But if you
are for sure gonna die, like if there's absent like
if the base of the building is completely in flames
and the elevators don't work and you can't go down
the stairs. You'd have to do something, and you had
the time, and you probably have time to know it.
I think you'd have to try something if you could,
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and I would.
Speaker 7 (13:45):
I would have to jump down out, go on my
balcony and jump down like balcony to balcony.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
Whoa, because I don't have a balloon, so right with
my Nana's orn like strapped to.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Me, you just jump towards the fire.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Then, So well, here's a question.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
I have a like an outdoor area that's like side
of it, so maybe I could jump onto there and
then jump onto the street.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
I think about this all the time too, when I'm
on a plane, like a commercial plane. Do you would
if you were involved in some kind of a crash
or incident, assuming that you lived, would you grab your
shit on the way out? Like would you take your
bag with you? Like I don't mean your carry on,
but like like your your backpack or the thing that
has your walt and passport and computer and shit. Would
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you'd like take that with you?
Speaker 5 (14:32):
If I supposed to.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
You're supposed to leave everything because that just shit just
gets in the way, you're supposed to just jump. You're
supposed to just you know, go out the emergency, exit
yourself and not get caught up with all your shit.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
I would grab some stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Would you grab your ship though? Is a question.
Speaker 7 (14:44):
You and Jason and I were in a building that
was like maybe on fire, and you you ran outside.
I ran to pe first because I didn't know how
long we were going to work with it. When we
were in Salt Lake City.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Oh yeah, that building was on fire yet very that's right.
Our radio station is Salt Lake City. On our first
day there were caught on fire. With physically on fire,
I forget all about The trip was.
Speaker 7 (15:09):
Like a time, but yeah, so it was three personalities.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Fred runs out the front door.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
I slowly grab some stuff and like set everything up
and go to the bathroom. Jason wants to go outside,
but he's not going to leave me, so he's pacing
around the bathroom's fist off.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Well, you know, I didn't want to I wouldn't have
wanted to leave you either. I just sort of silly
me thought you'd follow me out of the burning building.
But no. I get out front and it's no. Caitlin's
pissing and I'm like, oh, well, we were going.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
To be out there for a long time, so I thought.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah, okay, right, I thought for some reason, you'd be
right behind me in the burning building. But no, I
get out of the parking lot. Where's where's Kaylin? She's sitting. Okay,
all right, Well you gotta do what you gotta do.
But yeah, no, And and in typical US fashion, we're
in a semi soundproof room and the fire alarms going off,
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which we ignore because we're used to it owing them
because one we're live on the radio. And two, you know,
they do tests all the time around here that don't
mean anything, like a lot of them. They do a
lot of testing, which is probably good and you wanted
to work with the problem is, I don't know if
it's real anymore. So we're all on the radio and
it's like like, oh, we're fine, it has no problem here.
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And then finally someone busts in and in the running Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
After the front, I was like, oh, I saw all
this water flooding is there's a.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Fucking river coming down the hallway. It's like oh ship,
and there's like it smells bad and it's like shit
coming out of the bottom, like, oh, like we gotta go,
Like this is like yeah, real, it's actually on fire,
which is a first. I can tell you. I've seen
a lot of things in my career, but I've never
I've never had to go off the air because the
building was on fire.
Speaker 7 (16:46):
Crazy and the yeah, all the prize closet was like everything.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
All of their stuff was like destroyed. I couldn't even imagine,
like I would have been a wreck.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I'm trying to think of the crazy shit. I I
don't know why this comes to mind, but one one
Saturday morning, I'm on the radio in Dallas six a
to ten a I think it was or ten to two.
I don't know what anyway, and the hot this isn't
a thing anymore, but they used to have a thing
called a hotline, and like it was this number that
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only boss the boss knew and so like it would
start blinking if something was like either you fuck something up,
like if you fuck something up on the air, it
was like a running thing. You'd go one to three
and then there was always like a strobe light that
was indicating the hotline was ring, and you were like
here it comes, hey, boss, what the fuck are you doing.
You know, what do you doing? How was shitty? Why'd
you do that? You know whatever? They they can't do
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that anymore because it hurts people's feelings, and you're not
allowed to hurt people's feelings anymore. But the thing rings
and the guy was like, hey, uh, the space Shuttle
just burned up over Texas and people are finding limbs
in their backyard. So like you got to go to
the talk station, like just push the button and take
it to the talk station. So I was like, I'm sorry,
what and yeah, like it was then whatever, this was
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two thousand was it two thousand and two? Whenever? The
last time the spaceship I think it was re entering maybe,
and it like burned up. You remember this. I don't
remember what you're this. It's like two thousand and two
or something.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
I know there was one that people watched in school live.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Oh that was the Columbia I think that was in
the eighties.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
I can't imagine, like the teachers are like everybody gather
around and then they don't make it.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
We did that, Oh yeah, we do that for nine
to eleven.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Though.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I feel like when we went to we went to
class like it was on and we just like watched.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Because nobody knew.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
Oh that's not how my school they built the television
in and yeah, we.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Were Oh no, we had to get picked up. I did.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I was in college. Yeah, and I'll never forget that.
I was in college and I turned on the radio
I was driving to school and the morning show I
listened to at the station where I worked was not
It was like simulcasting CBS news and I'm like, what
the fuck is this? And then my mom called. I
remember exactly where I was, exactly where I was, and
she goes, are you seeing this? I'm like what? And
this is before they really kind of knew. I think
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only one tower had been hit and they and it
hadn't collapsed yet, and I so, I my holy shit.
And then I went to the student center and by
that point they'd collapse and I were like fuck, and
I'd walk into class. I'll never forget this asshole. It
was a psychology class and one of the girls in
the class's dad was an American airlines captain all on
a trip and she couldn't get a hold of him,
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didn't know he was okay, he was not one of
the captains. And this girl sitting behind me, freaking the
fuck out one hundred people in this class, and the
teacher comes in and says, we have class today because
life moves on, and so he made us sit there
for an hour and talk class. Everyone else that day,
every other professor was like, not only are we not
having class, but you can sit here and talk to me.
You can go get fucking mental health help. You know,
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we have these things going on at the school nine
o'clock in the morning on September eleventh, and this fucking
dickhead says, we're having class because life goes on. Whoa
and everyone in that room for And we didn't have like,
you know, iPhones at the time, was in two thousand
and one or whatever, so we didn't have you know,
the internet Wi Fi. I know that sounds crazy, but
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like you didn't have it in every classroom, you know,
like we do now. So for forty five minutes an hour,
like She's like, what is happening in the world right
And I'll tell you what. By the time we walked out,
there was another plane crash and the Pentagon and all
fights missed it all and were Dallas, Dallas, okay?
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Because I feel like Chicago we all went, we all
had to go home, and they were like take cover
because they thought would be another city that they were.
Speaker 8 (20:29):
Yeah, they told us they were like bombing places in
the country and like, we don't know for next I
was like, holy shh, my mom knew one of the
guy who took the plane down the saved everybody, the
one that landed outside the Pentagon.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
Oh really yeah yeah she I mean.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
That was crazy because that's the story on that one,
right that like it didn't make it to where it
was intended to go because everybody said fuck this.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
And he called his wife and he's like I love you,
Like we're going down.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Just by that point, everybody on that plane knew what Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
These guys fucking down.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
They were like fuck that right, Like the movie isn't it.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
There's a movie on that.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I think it's yeah, But it was like either either
these guys are if we're going out, then we're going
out right, like we're gonna Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
There was a group of them too. At some point
he rounded up a couple of people.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
I remember. There were rumors too, and this is a
conspiracy theory, but there are rumors that that plane was
shot down too, because because they were, and again, this
is a conspiracy theory. I don't know that it's true.
I think they've later determined it's what we think it
is that everyone those people were heroes, or maybe it
was a combination of both. But I think there was
some thought that like, if we shoot that plane down,
(21:32):
then it doesn't hit a building and doesn't kill five
thousand people or whatever, So like, we're just going to
shoot this one because at this point they knew they
were using the airplanes as weapons. I don't know that
that's ever been substantiated, but there was a theory going
around for a while that we shot that plane down
ourselves because it was like two hundred people die, but
it saves because I don't think they knew where it
(21:53):
was going.
Speaker 7 (21:53):
No, I would imagine like if you're in the vicinity
of the Pentagon too, they have that. But I think
the only reason we knew that they were trying to
take down is because one of the dudes called his
wife and like said that in those heartbreaking phone calls.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
But yeah, it never hit the Pentagon.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, but there are a lot of obviously a lot
of conspiracy theories about about that day, But yeah, that
was what I remember. I remember that was my very
first day on the radio too.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
My gosh, yeah, and you had to talk about.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
It, yeah, because like the night show catered to like teens,
you know, like typically nights on on pop stations are
for you know, teenagers, it's what their their audiences. And
that night they did like they had like three or
four people on the air and they just talked about it.
That's they didn't play any music because like, how do
you how do you play fucking you know, what was
(22:39):
the song at the time, I don't know, uh what
was it? Two thousand? Like fucking rumshaker. It wasn't that.
It was like, uh, what were we playing? Like between
me and you and Cisco, Like how do you play
thong song?
Speaker 5 (22:54):
I'm Real Murder remix featuring Jo Roll.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
So I think we if I remember correctly, like it
was my first day and they were like, well, you're
a college kid, like you should be in there too,
Go in there talk to people about it. So like
three or four of us sat there and just took
phone calls and people. It was wild, yeah, because obviously
no one living had ever seen anything like that.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
My sister missed it, which is still crazy to me
like she wasn't born yet. That's crazy, and she asked
me about it all the time. It's wild. We have
lived through so much.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
It's true.
Speaker 7 (23:21):
We have recessions, like a terrorist attack COVID COVID, don't.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
I remember I was in Mexico in that aven and
it was like, by the way, the world just shut down,
and like you're fucked. And there were pictures of O'Hare like,
you know, people waiting, you know, four days for customs
and shit. I'm like, oh my god, I'm never Margarita.
I'm never going home. And then it was like, well,
just stay there. Then, just stay there, we'll send you.
At one point they were like stay there, we'll send
(23:50):
you equipment. You can just work from there because and
I was like, but I'm in a hotel, Like are
you going to pay for that? They're like no. And
then I thought like if I don't go now, then
I don't know when I'm you know, I don't know.
That was a wild time too.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
He was crazy.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah, that was crazy in the management at the time.
I remember I put a I built like a little
studio in Arizona so I could be home with my
family more. And they fought me on that. They hated it.
They're like, you can't you know, we don't do that.
You know, we don't want you can't use that. You
need to be here, none of this remote work bullshit.
And then it turned out literally I was the only
(24:24):
person that could get on the air in the whole
fucking all of Chicago because they would let anyone in
the building. And so they were like, well, you fly
to Arizona and get on our fucking radio station and
like tell everybody it's okay. And I'm like, I'm coming
home and you could figure that out. But I just
remember that it was so funny. It was like, yeah, well
you fly to Arizona because like literally no one can
(24:46):
get on the radio except for you. And I was like,
well that's funny. That is so funny because you silly
gooses didn't want me.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
To have that margarita that hangs up, And that was crazy.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
It was a wild time. I feel like we learned
in that moment, like nobody he really knows what they're doing.
We're all just trying our best.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Well, I just there was never a time when I
thought something like that would happen in our lifetimes, Like
there was truly that sort of debilitating. I mean, and
I remember getting back here and after like a week
or two, it was this thing, this may last through
the summer. You know, it was in February on this podcast.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
If you go back watch, yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Like the summer that's like July. What are you fucking
talking about? There's no way six years later, yep, that's crazy.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
We need a trigger warning. At the beginning of this.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
We've covered we've covered Space Shuttle explosions, fires, September eleventh, tacos,
and we started and we started with walking Tacos, a
true legent. Indeed, oh yeah, I put it. Put a
warning on this. There you go. For the people who've
been saying where's the Tangent, Well and you got it.
(25:58):
Thanks for listening, and check all the other episodes at
the Tangent and of course the Fred Show on the
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If you listened this far, then thanks Bye.
I love I love a lot of tangent.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
I love the tangent. I love it. Hit the thing.
HiT's the tangent giving you all the ship we couldn't
talk about on the air. I love it, hit it,
I love it. I'm scary what I love the tangent.
I mean, I just don't have a lot of words.
I'm out of words. I've used all my words in
the last five hours. I don't have anything. Let me
(00:24):
go through our little sheet of stuff we didn't get
to today. Jason, you are fulfilling your dream of making
walking tacos for dinner tonight. Mike is going to hate
it because all he want is roast.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Yeah, that's so true.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
I'm so freaking excited to make walking tacos. How long
has the ben since you've had a walking taco?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Okay, so you get like the little Frido's bag.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I'm doing dorito, you're cheese flavored.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Now you doing like the full size bag? Or are
you doing like.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Those up of ones, like the one ounce one.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
So nacho cheese doritos, and what happens?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Then you fill it with all of your taco favorites.
So I'm getting obviously making ground beef. Sorry, kailin cheese, lettuce,
sour cream. I have some holopenio, some hot sauce.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Are you going to use the actual bag or you
pull it into it? Yeah? Okay, wow, pull.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
It into a bowl. Pour it into a bowl. But
I don't know. I kind of want to eat out
of the bag.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Then you put all this stuff in the bag, you
seal it, and then you crunch it up, crunch it up,
gunch it up, you open it and you eat it
with a fork.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yeah. I don't know how you couldn't be happy about that.
Like if I came home and that was there for
me after a long, hard day at work, I would
be like, my wife is awesome. That's what Mike should
be saying.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
So it's like, can't you just make something normal? Like
I don't know his mom.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Made like more chops and roasted chicken and pot roast
every night.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
It's like, no, Like I I want to do something different.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I'd be so happy. Yeah, I'd be happy cooking for
someone if they cleaned it all. Like I cook all
you want if you hate it, especially if someone else
if someone shopped and I'll cook all day, I'll cook
every day.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
You have to clean if somebody else cooked.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
That's the rule. I don't. Yeah, I don't want to clean.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
So that to my households well okay.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Really, if you cook for Big timmy won't clean.
Speaker 6 (02:12):
He will clean, but it's not to my standard. I like,
I love the man, but when he washes dishes, I
go back, I see little like piece of corn left.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
I'm like, you have a dishwasher, I know.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
But you would know. I have trauma and I don't
use my dishwasher.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Now tell me again, why don't you because you couldn't
as a kid.
Speaker 6 (02:28):
Yes, literally, we had a perfectly fine dishwasher in our
house and we were not allowed to use it. And
the one time I tried to sneak and use it,
I use dish detergent and there were down bubbles all
down the street. So yes, there were yep.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
No, But isn't there Isn't that why you have one
as an adult, so that you can sort of avenge
and you then can use it and be like, look,
I'm a grown up with grown up money and a
grown up dishwasher, and I'm going to use it now.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
It's trauma, bro, I don't know the same reason I
walk around my house and turn off all unnecessary lights
even here. You know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
That's how I protest. The lights are on, like because
we had to turn them off as kids, and like,
no lights on this and that. Every light is on
in the house.
Speaker 7 (03:10):
My dad used to say to me, honey, go over
there and turn that light on it and I'd go why,
and he'd go, because I want to.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
I want you to be perfect. I want every single
light in the house to be turned on by you.
And I was like, because he was.
Speaker 7 (03:21):
Very like, oh, I couldn't leave the dryer on when
we left the house because apparently they can cause a fire.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Well, you guys know my dad and still scared.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
So I stop it.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
I do it, but I'm scared.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Really great, thank you for that, because now that's what
I think about, that I didn't need all.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
That lit rolling around and then it gets so hot.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
It'll be fine, but I'm still scared of I mean,
the one day I leave.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
The house is on bier. Yeah, you married to a fireman.
Imagine the headline.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
The headline covered in like the news hand entertainer report
news life of firefighter car the headline freaking news You're
gonna break it, Kaitlin, I'm letting you break it.
Speaker 7 (04:05):
Oh, if you guys ever get into anything, you heard
it here first.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
I have a propane grill on my balcony on in
the high rise building I live in, which I don't
think that's a loud. I don't know I have it.
I don't know, but like maybe twice a week, even
in the winter, all grill something, you know, just because
I think it's I don't know's healthier. I don't know.
I made hamburgers last night. Every night I got into
(04:30):
a little chicken.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
You put it like a winter coat on.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
No, because it's like my I could almost open the
door to my balcony. I could almost grill from the house,
like almost like it's like, you know, it's like three
feet of balcony. It's like there's nothing. It's a grill
is the balcony basically, but like every time I turn
it on to warm it up. You know, in the city,
you'll hear like sirens all the time, And every time
I hear like a firefighter siren that has nothing to
(04:54):
do with me. But I spin around, I'm like, am
I burning the building down? Every time? It never failed.
I'll turn the grill on and then rare, and I'm like,
I'm getting arrested. I'm going to jail. But it has
nothing to do with me, because of course it's not.
You know, fine, But I don't think anything would happen.
I mean, it's like a little burner, it would run
out of propane. I mean, it's not going to catch fire.
(05:15):
Like nothing's going to happen.
Speaker 7 (05:17):
I'm convinced I'm gonna I don't know where that trauma
came from. But every time before I leave, I checked
the stove like five times, even if I didn't cook
anything on the stove.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
What I can't believe is I know multiple people whose
homes have burned down. Whoa wow, Like I just met
someone the other day, Okay, where ibody ill know you?
Like I met someone the other day, like a new
friend whose house burned down on the Palisades fire. And
it's like, but we we know we know another guy.
(05:45):
I actually know people now, multiple people whose homes have
burned down, which is a wild thing to think about,
Like everything they have is gone, everything every like can
you imagine like literally everything, like everything, any little random
thing that you like don't even think about, gone like
it's just a crazy thing. It's an awful thing to happen.
(06:05):
But yeah, no, apparently I'm the common denominator, which means
I must be the arsonist suspicious.
Speaker 7 (06:10):
But yeah, living in an apartment building you have to
put a lot of trust in a lot of people.
And like recently there was a huge like smoke situation
and they had to shut down all the elevators. It's like,
we really have to trust so many to like stay
in line, unplug their straighteners.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I try not to think about that because I live
high up and like I'm not saying this, there are
many people above me.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Like the penthouse.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Well I'm in the penthouse. It's in the middle of
the building. Yes, it's called the middle of penthouse. It's
called the cheap seats. But no, I guess I can
just hear it now, oh for it, And it was, Yeah,
they are like one hundred of them.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
But we have to if we work or do.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
You live in the city is a fucking high rise.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
You've been working forty years, whatever you got you work for, man.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
That is you want me to stop you. You're not
allowed to have success by the way, You're not and
you're certainly not allowed to talk about it. If you do,
it's not a good thing to do. No, uh uh,
you're not allowed. But where was I going with? Oh?
I think about this all the time, like if if that,
if something burned.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Below me, Oh yeah, we'd be cooked.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah. I mean, I don't know how I would get
down fifty some stories.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
It'd be old shoe man. You.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
So, what's funny is I do? So I am a
skydiver and my parachute rig is in my home because
it's very they're very expensive, so I keep it in
my house. But the thing is, so in theory, I
could I thought about this. In theory, I could jump
off the balcony and just base jump basically, which I'll
tell you the truth. If it came down to it.
(07:36):
This is real. If it came down to it, like
if the building were burning and I either burn in
the building do or die, or I jump off the
balcony and try and survive. That way, I would jump,
because like, what are your options? You have to try, right,
don't end up on lake right. No, honestly, I thought
about this. What I would do is because it takes.
(07:57):
It takes the main canopy like ten or fifteen seconds
about a thousand feet to fully open, which my building
is not that tall. If you're jumping from thirteen thousand feet,
then you know you open your parachute at four or
five thousand feet and then or lower and then you
know you're it's open by the time. So like the
problem would be the main canopy wouldn't open fully in
(08:19):
time for me to hit go splat. So but then
there's a there's a reserve canopy, so that when you parachute,
you have two parachutes on you. You have an emergency
like a backup, and then you have a main. The
backup opens a lot faster, it's a lot smaller. So
what I would do is I would actually climb the building.
I would go to the top and try and go
to the highest point that I could, and I would
(08:40):
jump off.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
There like the stairs.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I don't know the thing. I guess I'd go bang
on someone's unit and hope they'd let me in or something,
because like, I don't know how.
Speaker 7 (08:48):
Well you'd have to hold them then, and you both
have to parachute down to Michige.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
No, I'd be like, hey, tough shit, I'm using your balcony.
You're you're I mean, is not gonna work that way.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
I would be like, can I koala you?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yeah? And let's it wouldn't work.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
You could go to the roof.
Speaker 6 (09:02):
They tell you at a certain point in the high
rise to go to the roof anyway, right if there's
a fire.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
But our roof is not accessible, Oh okay, it's way
up there. So but yeah, I would try. I would
try and get to the roof and then I would
jump off of there because I would have more it'd
be higher. You'd want to jump off the highest possible thing.
And then I would open the reserve parachute and I
would just go right to the reserve instead of using
the main And I think I would live. Honestly, I
think I would live because I would only need the
(09:27):
margin of era would be very slim, like there'd be
a lot that could go wrong. I don't recommend it.
You shouldn't do it, But I'm.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Just saying, if you have the capability to jump out
of a plane, then you should think in your mind
you can survive.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
You just but I don't. It's not the right equipment.
It's not like a base jumping rig like the guys
who jump off bridges and stuff. They hold the canopy
in their hand so that there's nothing for it to
get caught. Like if you ever watch them there, they're
holding the pilot chute in their hand or the canopy.
It's like, I think it's a pilot chute. I've never
base jumped, so that like there's nothing because they only have.
(09:59):
You know, a ridge is only what like three four
five hundred feet up six hundred whatever, it is, so
like nothing. They don't have time for the canopy to
come out and open the same way, you know what
I'm saying, because because you're falling quickly right and the
parachute has to fully open.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
To get the air to make it flaw so that
you can fly.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
But like that takes a couple hundred feet to do,
or in my case in the skydiving rig, it takes
like eight hundred to one thousand feet, So like I
wouldn't have enough, I wouldn't fall enough for it to
fully open. Which is why the base jumping rigs are
much it's much more simple, simplified because like they literally
are opening their own canopy as they jump because so
(10:39):
that it opens right away. Because you ever watch a
bass jumper, they're holding onto their pilot choote. They'll jump
and then they'll go like one, two and they'll throw
their own shoot and it just opens really fast. So
I would need that kind of rig to really make
sure that I survive because people do that. They clim
buildings all the time illegally and base jump off of buildings.
If you get a it's like a you get arrested
(11:01):
for it. But if the building were on fire, then
fuck it. I'm gonna do that. But the problem is
I don't have that kind of parachute. I have like
the regular kind of paras on.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
Amazon, right, you have it because then once you once
you survive, then they are going to put the pieces
together though they're going to be like, so you know
a bunch of people who house burned down, You're building
caught on fire. The only person that's.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Motherfucker, and you had a parachute to get away.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
You had a grilled hot dog in your hands. You
were landing because you didn't want to waste it because
you know, it was a good hot dog. It was
Vienna beef, it was high quality.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
But that's so funny. I really thought that.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I honestly sat on my couch and thought about that,
like if that thing started to burn, Like could I
use that parachute to save my life? And I think
I'd have to try.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Now, what what kind of mag you keep it in?
Because what if like a moth ate a hole through.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
It or something, Well, that would be a problem. I
don't have a lot of moths. Well I don't have moths.
I don't have I don't have any of those either.
But no, it's just in my closet because like when
I was skydiving, I mean I started skyd having twenty
years ago, I had it made. You have a made
to like custom to your body. What you have the
parachute measured, made to measure.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Yeah, so you would like pick your colors and oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah, yeah, the whole parashute. I picked gray and blue
and green, and my canopy. I picked the stripes on it.
They're gray matches and my name's like monogrammed on it.
Oh yeah, oh yeah. I was a lot fucking skinnier
when I had that thing made. But it's adjustable a
little bit, like a little.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Isn't there a lover that you can kind of a
little bit turn? Or am I making that up a lever?
I don't know you can't see it at all, Like
there's no way to change.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
When you're in the air, you can steer, Yeah, what
do you pull on? Oh you've got toggling now. The
round parachutes you can't really steer, Like if you ever
see the guys in the military jump out of planes
and they got like the round parachute.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
We must have a different algorithm.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
You're kind of just going where you go. You can't
steer those very well. But the ones that are rectangular,
like the modern ones, like the ones you if you
went skydiving, you jumped out of a plane, had a
mom a rectangular parachute, you steer it by pulling on
each side each toggle left and right, and you can
stear those pretty pretty accurately, Like you can, like pretty precisely.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
Well, I would break that.
Speaker 7 (13:11):
Story too, of you, like man jumps out of apartment.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I mean, I think you'd have to try, I really,
I mean, if what else you do, I'm.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Good, I can't.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
You gotta jump, like if you are for sure this
is a horrible thing to think about. But if you
are for sure gonna die, like if there's absent like
if the base of the building is completely in flames
and the elevators don't work and you can't go down
the stairs. You'd have to do something, and you had
the time, and you probably have time to know it.
I think you'd have to try something if you could,
(13:44):
and I would.
Speaker 7 (13:45):
I would have to jump down out, go on my
balcony and jump down like balcony to balcony.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
Whoa, because I don't have a balloon, so right with
my Nana's orn like strapped to.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Me, you just jump towards the fire.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Then, So well, here's a question.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
I have a like an outdoor area that's like side
of it, so maybe I could jump onto there and
then jump onto the street.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
I think about this all the time too, when I'm
on a plane, like a commercial plane. Do you would
if you were involved in some kind of a crash
or incident, assuming that you lived, would you grab your
shit on the way out? Like would you take your
bag with you? Like I don't mean your carry on,
but like like your your backpack or the thing that
has your walt and passport and computer and shit. Would
(14:31):
you'd like take that with you?
Speaker 5 (14:32):
If I supposed to.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
You're supposed to leave everything because that just shit just
gets in the way, you're supposed to just jump. You're
supposed to just you know, go out the emergency, exit
yourself and not get caught up with all your shit.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
I would grab some stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Would you grab your ship though? Is a question.
Speaker 7 (14:44):
You and Jason and I were in a building that
was like maybe on fire, and you you ran outside.
I ran to pe first because I didn't know how
long we were going to work with it. When we
were in Salt Lake City.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Oh yeah, that building was on fire yet very that's right.
Our radio station is Salt Lake City. On our first
day there were caught on fire. With physically on fire,
I forget all about The trip was.
Speaker 7 (15:09):
Like a time, but yeah, so it was three personalities.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Fred runs out the front door.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
I slowly grab some stuff and like set everything up
and go to the bathroom. Jason wants to go outside,
but he's not going to leave me, so he's pacing
around the bathroom's fist off.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Well, you know, I didn't want to I wouldn't have
wanted to leave you either. I just sort of silly
me thought you'd follow me out of the burning building.
But no. I get out front and it's no. Caitlin's
pissing and I'm like, oh, well, we were going.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
To be out there for a long time, so I thought.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah, okay, right, I thought for some reason, you'd be
right behind me in the burning building. But no, I
get out of the parking lot. Where's where's Kaylin? She's sitting. Okay,
all right, Well you gotta do what you gotta do.
But yeah, no, And and in typical US fashion, we're
in a semi soundproof room and the fire alarms going off,
(15:58):
which we ignore because we're used to it owing them
because one we're live on the radio. And two, you know,
they do tests all the time around here that don't
mean anything, like a lot of them. They do a
lot of testing, which is probably good and you wanted
to work with the problem is, I don't know if
it's real anymore. So we're all on the radio and
it's like like, oh, we're fine, it has no problem here.
(16:19):
And then finally someone busts in and in the running Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
After the front, I was like, oh, I saw all
this water flooding is there's a.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Fucking river coming down the hallway. It's like oh ship,
and there's like it smells bad and it's like shit
coming out of the bottom, like, oh, like we gotta go,
Like this is like yeah, real, it's actually on fire,
which is a first. I can tell you. I've seen
a lot of things in my career, but I've never
I've never had to go off the air because the
building was on fire.
Speaker 7 (16:46):
Crazy and the yeah, all the prize closet was like everything.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
All of their stuff was like destroyed. I couldn't even imagine,
like I would have been a wreck.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I'm trying to think of the crazy shit. I I
don't know why this comes to mind, but one one
Saturday morning, I'm on the radio in Dallas six a
to ten a I think it was or ten to two.
I don't know what anyway, and the hot this isn't
a thing anymore, but they used to have a thing
called a hotline, and like it was this number that
(17:16):
only boss the boss knew and so like it would
start blinking if something was like either you fuck something up,
like if you fuck something up on the air, it
was like a running thing. You'd go one to three
and then there was always like a strobe light that
was indicating the hotline was ring, and you were like
here it comes, hey, boss, what the fuck are you doing.
You know, what do you doing? How was shitty? Why'd
you do that? You know whatever? They they can't do
(17:37):
that anymore because it hurts people's feelings, and you're not
allowed to hurt people's feelings anymore. But the thing rings
and the guy was like, hey, uh, the space Shuttle
just burned up over Texas and people are finding limbs
in their backyard. So like you got to go to
the talk station, like just push the button and take
it to the talk station. So I was like, I'm sorry,
what and yeah, like it was then whatever, this was
(18:00):
two thousand was it two thousand and two? Whenever? The
last time the spaceship I think it was re entering maybe,
and it like burned up. You remember this. I don't
remember what you're this. It's like two thousand and two
or something.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
I know there was one that people watched in school live.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Oh that was the Columbia I think that was in
the eighties.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
I can't imagine, like the teachers are like everybody gather
around and then they don't make it.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
We did that, Oh yeah, we do that for nine
to eleven.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Though.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I feel like when we went to we went to
class like it was on and we just like watched.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Because nobody knew.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
Oh that's not how my school they built the television
in and yeah, we.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Were Oh no, we had to get picked up. I did.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I was in college. Yeah, and I'll never forget that.
I was in college and I turned on the radio
I was driving to school and the morning show I
listened to at the station where I worked was not
It was like simulcasting CBS news and I'm like, what
the fuck is this? And then my mom called. I
remember exactly where I was, exactly where I was, and
she goes, are you seeing this? I'm like what? And
this is before they really kind of knew. I think
(19:00):
only one tower had been hit and they and it
hadn't collapsed yet, and I so, I my holy shit.
And then I went to the student center and by
that point they'd collapse and I were like fuck, and
I'd walk into class. I'll never forget this asshole. It
was a psychology class and one of the girls in
the class's dad was an American airlines captain all on
a trip and she couldn't get a hold of him,
(19:23):
didn't know he was okay, he was not one of
the captains. And this girl sitting behind me, freaking the
fuck out one hundred people in this class, and the
teacher comes in and says, we have class today because
life moves on, and so he made us sit there
for an hour and talk class. Everyone else that day,
every other professor was like, not only are we not
having class, but you can sit here and talk to me.
You can go get fucking mental health help. You know,
(19:45):
we have these things going on at the school nine
o'clock in the morning on September eleventh, and this fucking
dickhead says, we're having class because life goes on. Whoa
and everyone in that room for And we didn't have like,
you know, iPhones at the time, was in two thousand
and one or whatever, so we didn't have you know,
the internet Wi Fi. I know that sounds crazy, but
(20:05):
like you didn't have it in every classroom, you know,
like we do now. So for forty five minutes an hour,
like She's like, what is happening in the world right
And I'll tell you what. By the time we walked out,
there was another plane crash and the Pentagon and all
fights missed it all and were Dallas, Dallas, okay?
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Because I feel like Chicago we all went, we all
had to go home, and they were like take cover
because they thought would be another city that they were.
Speaker 8 (20:29):
Yeah, they told us they were like bombing places in
the country and like, we don't know for next I
was like, holy shh, my mom knew one of the
guy who took the plane down the saved everybody, the
one that landed outside the Pentagon.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
Oh really yeah yeah she I mean.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
That was crazy because that's the story on that one,
right that like it didn't make it to where it
was intended to go because everybody said fuck this.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
And he called his wife and he's like I love you,
Like we're going down.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Just by that point, everybody on that plane knew what Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
These guys fucking down.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
They were like fuck that right, Like the movie isn't it.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
There's a movie on that.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I think it's yeah, But it was like either either
these guys are if we're going out, then we're going
out right, like we're gonna Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
There was a group of them too. At some point
he rounded up a couple of people.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
I remember. There were rumors too, and this is a
conspiracy theory, but there are rumors that that plane was
shot down too, because because they were, and again, this
is a conspiracy theory. I don't know that it's true.
I think they've later determined it's what we think it
is that everyone those people were heroes, or maybe it
was a combination of both. But I think there was
some thought that like, if we shoot that plane down,
(21:32):
then it doesn't hit a building and doesn't kill five
thousand people or whatever, So like, we're just going to
shoot this one because at this point they knew they
were using the airplanes as weapons. I don't know that
that's ever been substantiated, but there was a theory going
around for a while that we shot that plane down
ourselves because it was like two hundred people die, but
it saves because I don't think they knew where it
(21:53):
was going.
Speaker 7 (21:53):
No, I would imagine like if you're in the vicinity
of the Pentagon too, they have that. But I think
the only reason we knew that they were trying to
take down is because one of the dudes called his
wife and like said that in those heartbreaking phone calls.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
But yeah, it never hit the Pentagon.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, but there are a lot of obviously a lot
of conspiracy theories about about that day, But yeah, that
was what I remember. I remember that was my very
first day on the radio too.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
My gosh, yeah, and you had to talk about.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
It, yeah, because like the night show catered to like teens,
you know, like typically nights on on pop stations are
for you know, teenagers, it's what their their audiences. And
that night they did like they had like three or
four people on the air and they just talked about it.
That's they didn't play any music because like, how do
you how do you play fucking you know, what was
(22:39):
the song at the time, I don't know, uh what
was it? Two thousand? Like fucking rumshaker. It wasn't that.
It was like, uh, what were we playing? Like between
me and you and Cisco, Like how do you play
thong song?
Speaker 5 (22:54):
I'm Real Murder remix featuring Jo Roll.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
So I think we if I remember correctly, like it
was my first day and they were like, well, you're
a college kid, like you should be in there too,
Go in there talk to people about it. So like
three or four of us sat there and just took
phone calls and people. It was wild, yeah, because obviously
no one living had ever seen anything like that.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
My sister missed it, which is still crazy to me
like she wasn't born yet. That's crazy, and she asked
me about it all the time. It's wild. We have
lived through so much.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
It's true.
Speaker 7 (23:21):
We have recessions, like a terrorist attack COVID COVID, don't.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
I remember I was in Mexico in that aven and
it was like, by the way, the world just shut down,
and like you're fucked. And there were pictures of O'Hare like,
you know, people waiting, you know, four days for customs
and shit. I'm like, oh my god, I'm never Margarita.
I'm never going home. And then it was like, well,
just stay there. Then, just stay there, we'll send you.
At one point they were like stay there, we'll send
(23:50):
you equipment. You can just work from there because and
I was like, but I'm in a hotel, Like are
you going to pay for that? They're like no. And
then I thought like if I don't go now, then
I don't know when I'm you know, I don't know.
That was a wild time too.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
He was crazy.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah, that was crazy in the management at the time.
I remember I put a I built like a little
studio in Arizona so I could be home with my
family more. And they fought me on that. They hated it.
They're like, you can't you know, we don't do that.
You know, we don't want you can't use that. You
need to be here, none of this remote work bullshit.
And then it turned out literally I was the only
(24:24):
person that could get on the air in the whole
fucking all of Chicago because they would let anyone in
the building. And so they were like, well, you fly
to Arizona and get on our fucking radio station and
like tell everybody it's okay. And I'm like, I'm coming
home and you could figure that out. But I just
remember that it was so funny. It was like, yeah, well
you fly to Arizona because like literally no one can
(24:46):
get on the radio except for you. And I was like,
well that's funny. That is so funny because you silly
gooses didn't want me.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
To have that margarita that hangs up, And that was crazy.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
It was a wild time. I feel like we learned
in that moment, like nobody he really knows what they're doing.
We're all just trying our best.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Well, I just there was never a time when I
thought something like that would happen in our lifetimes, Like
there was truly that sort of debilitating. I mean, and
I remember getting back here and after like a week
or two, it was this thing, this may last through
the summer. You know, it was in February on this podcast.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
If you go back watch, yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Like the summer that's like July. What are you fucking
talking about? There's no way six years later, yep, that's crazy.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
We need a trigger warning. At the beginning of this.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
We've covered we've covered Space Shuttle explosions, fires, September eleventh, tacos,
and we started and we started with walking Tacos, a
true legent. Indeed, oh yeah, I put it. Put a
warning on this. There you go. For the people who've
been saying where's the Tangent, Well and you got it.
(25:58):
Thanks for listening, and check all the other episodes at
the Tangent and of course the Fred Show on the
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