On the Verge of Peace with Putin?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, Cooner country. Okay, very very dramatic developments taking place.
I don't want to jump the gun. Trump doesn't want
to jump the gun. Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, said, look,
I don't want people to get too excited about this,

(00:21):
but there was a dramatic breakthrough that took place yesterday
between Vladimir Putin, President Trump and Ukrainian leader Voladimir Zelenski.
So here is now the absolute latest. And I just
got to say this right out of the gate. If

(00:41):
Trump can pull this off, and he appears to be close,
they give him the Nobel Piece price. I mean, really
this Wow, you want to talk. I mean that this
this will be one of his great crowning achievements. So,
as you know, today is tariff day. Tariffs now are

(01:05):
being implemented on seventy countries. There is now going to
be a new tariff regime to protect American industry, American manufacturing.
But looming behind all of these tariffs is a deadline
that Trump gave to Vladimir Putin, which expires tomorrow. And

(01:27):
the deadline is very clear. Either Vladimir Putin agrees the
strong Man of Russia, either he agrees to a ceasefire
with Ukraine and ending the war in Ukraine at least temporarily,
or Trump is going to level the Russian economy with
massive sanctions, secondary sanctions and tariffs on major countries that

(01:53):
purchase Russian oil and natural gas. And in particular the
two biggest of Russian oil and natural gas are China
number one and very close second India. Basically it's China
and India. There are other countries, but the two big
players are Beijing and New Deli. Now this is the

(02:18):
key point. Trump has already implemented a twenty five percent
tariff on India. He now is going to add another
twenty five percent tariff on India because India is continuing
to purchase Russian oil and natural gas. In fact, what

(02:38):
the Indian government is doing, frankly, I think it's quite sleazy,
to be honest, is they are buying Russian oil and
natural gas at a cheap, below market price and then
they sell it on the international market out of profit.
They mark it up and they pocket the rest. And

(03:00):
this is now the as far as the war in
Ukraine is concerned, it is the sale of Russian energy,
Russian oil and Russian gas to China and India. That
is feeding and fueling and monetizing funding Putin's war machine.

(03:21):
This is why Trump now is hitting the sanctions on
Russian oil, Russian natural gas. He wants to hit China,
he wants to hit India. If he can now cut
off the money supply to Russia's war machine, he will
cut Putin off at the knees economically, and essentially, if

(03:45):
the oil and gas dries up, if the money dries up,
Putin can no longer wage his war. I mean he
can fight for another three, four or five months, but
essentially he will The Russian military will not have the
economic resources to continue to prosecute the war in Ukraine.

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So it is an economic body blow to Putin, to
Russia and to their war effort. Now, with this looming
over Putin, on top of the fact that Trump now
has sent billions of dollars in weaponry through the EU,
through NATO, through the Europeans, and they are now buying

(04:30):
our weapons and then giving them to the Ukrainians, things
have now changed in Moscow. Suddenly it appears that Putin
is more amenable to a deal. And so yesterday, just
two days before the secondary sanctions on Russia were to

(04:50):
kick in. Putin received Steve Whitkoff, President Trump's US envoy,
special envoy. They had a long three hour discussion. According
to the Russians, they said it was extremely positive, very constructive.

(05:13):
How the Russians described it as we conveyed certain signals
to the Trump administration, and the Trump administration conveyed certain
signals to us. In other words, wink wink, Let's make
a deal. Witkoff then contacted Trump saying they're starting to

(05:34):
now give us concrete details on an end plan and
endgame to finish this war once and for all. Apparently,
Trump then got on the phone with Zelensky. He discussed
the meeting with Zelensky. Here is now what Trump now
believes is about to happen. He has now told media

(05:57):
outlets that he is planning to meet Vladimir Putin face
to face sometime next week, end of the month at
the absolute latest. But he wants to do this, I think,
jumping and seizing on this momentum that he now wants
to do it as quickly as possible. He is going

(06:20):
to meet Putin next week and then right after meeting Putin,
mano amano man to man, then there'll be a trilateral
meeting between Trump, Putin, and Zelenski. Now, Putin has not
met American president since the start of the war in Ukraine.

(06:44):
The fact that Putin and Trump now are on the
cusp of sitting down and just meeting each other person
to person is already huge news. But you add to
that the very real possibility that there's going to be
a trilateral summit, a meeting directly face to face between Zelenski, Putin,

(07:09):
and Trump. Here is now it's historic. This is what
my reading of the situation is. You may agree, you
may disagree. For President Trump to invest now so much
political capital and raising expectations saying he's now gonna meet

(07:30):
with Putin, it can only be because, for whatever reason,
behind the scenes, the Russians have made significant concessions and
the Ukrainians have made significant concessions that they are now
willing to meet at the diplomatic negotiating table. For Putin

(07:51):
to be willing to sit down with Zelenski, for Zolensky
to be willing to sit down with Putin, and for
Trump now to put his full prestige on the line
to say I'm want to come in now as the closer.
In other words, the two sides are close enough. I'm
going to come in now, we're going to lock the doors,

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and we're coming out with a deal. I can't read
the evidence, Eddie any other way. For Trump to just
meet Putin for the sake of meeting him, I think
would weaken Trump. It would deplete his political capital. I
think it would come across as a failure on his part.
You don't throw the full weight of the presidency unless

(08:35):
you truly feel you are close to the end of
the road, you are close to a possible negotiated settlement
and some kind of a peace deal. Zolensky would not
meet with Putin unless he feels that there's something he
can sign, and Putin would not meet with Zelenski, who
he dismisses, unless he's willing to sign something on a

(08:58):
piece of paper. So listen now to President Trump. Roll
cut two, Mike.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
We had some very good talks with President Putin today,
and there's a very good chance that we could be
ending the ending the round, ending the end of that road.
That road was long and continues to be long. But
there's a good chance that there will be meeting very soon.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
So now he said, Look, you know, nothing is set
in stone, it's not one hundred percent yet. But he said,
as he put it, there's a very very good chance
we're going to be meeting, and we're starting to approach,
as he put it, the end of a very long warroad.
This war has gone on now for over three years.
You're just this year alone, twenty thousand Russians dead, nine

(09:54):
thousand Ukrainians dead. In total, over a million Russian and
Ukrainians have either died or been named in this war.
It is by far the worst war in Europe since
World War Two. It appears to me that Zelenski now
is willing to concede that Russia will annex Crimea and

(10:19):
take eastern Ukraine, about twenty percent of the country, what's
called the Dawn bas and in exchange for that, Ukraine
will then have access to the European Union, Ukraine will
get a chance to rebuild its military, and Ukraine will
be able to break free from Russian control and dominance.

(10:42):
In other words, I think Ukraine is now willing to
accept eighty percent of Ukraine is better than no Ukraine.
Six one seven two, six sixty eight sixty eight. Okay,
stunning breakthrough was announced yesterday. I don't want to spend
too much time. I'd like to take some calls and
then frankly move on, because there are a couple of

(11:03):
other issues I would love to discuss with you. But look,
just let me just make a couple more points, and
then I want to go to the phone lines six
one seven two six six, sixty eight sixty eight. The
devil is in the details, The proof of the eating
is in the pudding, as they say. So we'll see
if there is an actual meeting next week. Increasingly likely

(11:24):
that there will be. As I said, it will be
absolutely historic that Trump is going to be meeting Putin
now since the war in Ukraine began, and that then
following that will be a three person summit, Zelensky meeting
Putin for the first time since the war, and with

(11:45):
Trump as the mediator. Now, right out of the gate,
let me just say this. Trump has now gone much
farther and done a hell of a lot more to
try to bring this war to an end than Joe
ever did. And what I find incredible is that you

(12:05):
cannot go a single day anymore in the United States
of America where I don't care if it's the New
York Times, it's the Washington Post, it's the Boston Globe,
it's USA Today, it's MSNBC on their website, or this
is CNN or whatever, take your pick. Where they are

(12:26):
not calling Trump either a dictator, a tyrant or a
Hitler over and over and over and over again. Okay,
you can't, you can't get it. There's not a day
and yet would Hitler want to make peace? Just stand

(12:49):
back objectively. Under the first six months of Trump's presidency,
he is the peace president. He is whether liberals want
to admit it or facts are facts are facts. He
ended the war between two nuclear powers, India and Pakistan.
He ended the war between Cambodia and Thailand, really a

(13:13):
conflict in many ways that went back hundreds of years.
He brought peace between Serbia and Kosovo. And I'm telling you,
I know the Balkans, getting those two to sit down
and hammer out a deal. Ay ya yai. He has
destroyed Iran's nuclear program, giving peace not just to the

(13:33):
Middle East but to the world. This guy has delivered.
He delivered peace between Rwanda, just signed a deal. Helped
him sign a deal Rwanda and the Democratic Republic of Congo.
So whether it's in Africa, whether it's in Asia, whether
it's in the Balkans, whether it's between India and Pakistan,

(13:56):
he has now it's almost a peace deal a month,
and now he's going for the big Enchilada Russia and Ukraine.
Now Hitler wanted war. Fascist love war militarism is at
the heart of fascism. If you know anything about fascism, Okay,

(14:18):
if you ever just picked up a book and just
go through it, just pick a page and you'll see
love of violence, love of war, love of the military,
love of conquest, love of blood and violence, race, blood
and violence is at the core of fascism. And yet

(14:39):
you have a so called fascist who's going out of
his way in many cases. I'm telling you, he is
expending valuable political capital in order to try to bring
peace to countries all over the world. And now between
Russia and Ukraine the largest bloodiest war in Europe since

(15:00):
World War Two. And he has said this repeatedly, over
and over again, and he's completely right. I didn't start
this war. This war didn't happen on my watch. It
happened under Biden's watch. It never would have happened had
I been president. And he's right, So I'm trying to
clean up Biden's mess. And as he put it, look,

(15:21):
I have no personal stake in this, and frankly he
even admits it in many ways, outside of preventing World
War III, the United States, this is a conflict thousands
of miles away. This doesn't directly impact us in any way,
shape or form. This is in Europe's backyard. You would

(15:44):
think the Germans would be taking the lead, the Brits,
the French, the EU. They can't. They're useless, they're ineffective,
they're feckless. It's always Uncle Sam that has to ride
to the rescue. And so Trump is openly said, look, honestly,
from my point of view, this is almost humanitarian. I

(16:05):
can't stand to see all of this killing, and to
see the senseless slaughter of so many young Ukrainian men
and boys and young Russian men and boys. It's almost
like I'm watching the destruction of European civilization. It's just
slaughter upon slaughter upon slaughter, and what's being attained on

(16:28):
the battlefield hardly anything. As I said in the past before,
and it's true, this is reminiscent of trench warfare in
World War One. Now it appears, it appears I don't
want to jump the gun, but it appears that Trump's
policy of maximum economic pressure on Putin. Remember, Biden never

(16:52):
wanted to sanction China. He never would cross China. Trump
is now willing to drop the hammer on China, not
just for his tariffs, but also for punishing them for
buying all that Russian oil and natural gas. He's now
doing it to India. So he's now putting the economic
screws into Putin's war machine, while also sending some weapons

(17:17):
to Ukraine to help beef up the Ukrainians as they
try to fend off this massive Russian summer offensive. What
is clear is that the mood in Moscow has changed.
They want much better relations with the United States, and
they are now willing to talk Cold Turkey. They want

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eastern Ukraine. This is what they're asking for. They want
what they've accomplished on the battlefield. They want to keep
their gains in Eastern Ukraine. They want to keep Crimea,
and they don't want Ukraine in NATO. Now, Trump says,
Zelenski is willing to swallow this if he can get
some guarantees from the Europeans, and if the path to

(18:03):
the EU is clear and there is a demilitarized zone,
that can make sure that Russia never attacks Ukraine or
further Ukrainian territory again. So we have the outlines of
a deal. Trump now is going to go. We don't
know where this summit's gonna be held. It could be

(18:25):
in Turkey, it could be who knows, Switzerland. I don't
think they're going to do it in Ukraine. They won't
do it in Russia. Zelenski will never go to Russia.
Putin will not risk his security in Ukraine. I don't
know if the two of them would come to the
United States and do it right at the White House.
We shall see, but it's probably going to be a

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neutral third site. Six one seven two six six sixty
eight sixty eight is the number. Okay, let me ask
all of you several questions, and then I want to
open up the phone lines. Six one seven sixty eight
sixty eight is the number. First, Mike, do me a favor.
Play the cut one more time. This was Trump. The

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press corps was stunned, stunned. Nobody saw this coming. Everybody
was assuming this war in Ukraine is going to go
on for at least a couple more months, that the
Russians now are in the midst of a massive offensive.
By the way the Ukrainian lines in the east are breaking,

(19:31):
Russia is on the verge of taking a very key
strategic city. And they take this city, all of eastern
Ukraine is now going to fall, all of it. And
maybe that's why Putin feels he's gotten enough. I mean,
I don't want to read his mind, but they are
on the verge of winning a key strategic city. The

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Ukrainians will not be able to resupply their troops in
the east. They will have completely consolidated all four regions
that the Russians now claim in eastern Ukraine. So anyway,
whatever the point is, people thought this war was going
to go on for at least another thirty to sixty days.
Trump now has imposed extra tariffs on India, first twenty

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five percent and then an extra twenty five percent because
they're buying Russian oil and natural gas. Tomorrow he's going
to announce apparently more tariffs on China for buying oil
and gas from Russia. So he is squeezing now the
Russian oil saw sales and their energy supply. Once the
money starts to get cut off, Putin realizes there may

(20:40):
not be enough left for his war machine to continue
to go on. Whatever the reason is, whether it's because
Putin has won enough on the battlefield, or he just
can't continue the war because of this economic stranglehold that
Trump is slowly imposing on the Russian economy. Whatever it
may be, Putin now was very different yesterday with Witkoff

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than he has been for the last couple of weeks.
Listen now to Trump saying Witkof on my behalf special Envoy,
had a three hour talk with Putin. It was constructive,
it was very positive, and I think I may be
meeting Vladimir personally sometime next week, followed by a meeting

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between the three of us, myself, Putin, and Zelensky. Roll
cut to Mike.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
We had some very good talks with President Putin today
and there's a very good chance that we could be
ending the ending the round, ending the end of that road.
Road was long and continues to be long. But there's
a good chance that there will be meeting very soon.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
So that you know that's now that's a massive breakthrough.
There's no question, no question. Even the New York Times
had to admit that's a massive breakthrough. So even his
most his mortal enemies are conceding that this is a
huge development. Now, let me ask all of you, in
the light of this, will Trump Should Trump win the

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Nobel Peace Prize if he can end the war between
Russia and Ukraine? Do you care? Two the fact that
Trump is now going to go the extra mile again
to try to end the war between Russia and Ukraine.
Is this a valuable use of his time, energy, and

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diplomatic political capital? Or should he just forget the war
between Russia and Ukraine, Let them fight it out, let
them then decide what the peace terms will be. He
should just focus on domestic issues, on problems here at home,
and Mike, God, do we have problems here at home?

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In other words, should Trump even be attempting and taking
up so much time and energy, having it consume so
much of his presidency to try to end this war
between Moscow and Kiev? Do you like what Trump is doing?
Do you not like what Trump is doing? And finally,

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and in some ways maybe most importantly, is Trump now
becoming the statesman of our time, the peacemaker of our time.
If he can seal a deal between Russia and Ukraine,
on top of what he's done between India and Pakistan, Cambodia, Thailand, Serbia, Kosovo, Rwanda,

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the Democratic Republic of Congo a neutralizing Iran's nuclear threat,
is Trump now becoming the domain and in peacemaker, the
dominant statesman of our time. Six one seven two six
six sixty eight sixty eight is the number Bruce in Woburn.

(24:13):
Thanks for holding Bruce, and welcome.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
Jeff. They're never gonna give him credit for anything that
he give.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
The sons of guns. They've given him nothing. They've taken
everything that he's ever done and thrown it in a
bag of crap. They're not for us, these these people

(24:52):
that I hear. It's just crazy, Jeff. I can't believe
this guy has done so much for us, so much
for everybody, so much for the world, and he's not
given any credit at all.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
They take it away, they Hitler, calm in it. I'm
they're saying what he is, what they are, and went
on it. So you tell me, Jeff, why do we

(25:32):
even I mean, he's just done so much, Jeff, No,
you're right.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
Look, Bruce, I've never, honestly, I've never seen a first
six months like this of any president in history. I mean,
it's the energy, the intensity, the achievements, the accomplishments. Frankly,
the amount of work. I mean, the man is working sixteen,
eighteen twenty hour days, seven days a week. I mean

(25:58):
he occasionally plays golf here there, just to get a
little downtime, but the man is putting in grueling hours.
I've never seen something, really, I've never seen anything like this.
And look, you know, you look at the images of
what's happening on the battlefield, it's heartbreaking. Whatever you think

(26:20):
about the war. And you know my feelings about the war,
we have no dog in that fight.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
You know.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
To me, I'm America first, I'm not Ukraine first, I'm
not Russia first. I'm America first. And we should focus
on our problems here at home. But you just look
at the humanitarian scale of that blood bath, of that slaughter.
It's i mean, it really, it's truly senseless. Now, if

(26:48):
Trump can put an end to this. Germany didn't, France didn't,
Britain didn't, the EU didn't, nobody else did. It's going
to be Trump. Now, after all the peace deals, if
this guy is signing and it's now getting to the
point it really is one a month and you're still
calling him a fascist, he's still Hitler like you're insane.

(27:13):
These leftists are, I'm telling you, these democrats and liberals
are absolutely insane. Like, sir, you have to get your
head checked out. And look, you're right. Maybe though, you know,
there's a lot of liberals, a lot of lefties on
that Nobel Prize, that Nobel Prize committee. Maybe no matter
what he does, but I don't know. To me, you

(27:35):
end this war. I don't see how they can deny
it to him. But let's say they do. It doesn't
matter in the end. What matters is the achievement, the accomplishment.
But no, look, we are living now in historic times.
There is no question. And Biden started this war. Biden

(27:56):
provoked this war. He took NATO right up onto Russia's doorstep.
Biden and Zelensky provoked a Russian bear. They poked them,
they poked them, they poked them. Putin responded, and now
you've got over a million Russian and Ukrainian dead. This
is ultimately going to be Biden's legacy and Trump now

(28:20):
is reversing all of the damage bit by bit, piece
by piece with Jeff Kohner Boston's Bulldozer six one seven
two six six sixty eight sixty eight. If you want
to be part of the show.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Brian On Messenger made a very very good point, very
funny point, Jeff. If Trump could walk on water, the
Libs would say Trump doesn't know how to swim. That's
a that's a that's honestly, you're dead on there, Brian.

(28:55):
So in other words, even if he makes peace between
Russia and Ukraine, they're still I'm not going to give
him the Nobelpies Prize. And although they'll find some excuse now,
larry On Messenger makes a really really fascinating point, Jeff,
do you think that this war would have dragged on

(29:17):
this far if the dear litter, if Barack Obama and
the hildebast Hillary Clinton didn't start a cold war with
Russia just to ruin President Trump's first term? Bingo, bingo.

(29:38):
You see this is I think the angle that many
many people, especially the media, are completely missing what they
did in that first term to Trump. What now? Tulci Gabbart,
to our eternal credit, is now revealing, exposing and unmasking.
Is not just that they framed an incoming president as

(30:02):
an agent of Russia to sabotage, undermine his presidency, to
establish essentially a coup to overturn the will of the voters,
in which they literally manufactured intelligence. They made it up
for a contrived narrative that somehow Trump was colluding with
Russia to steal the election against Tillery in twenty sixteen.

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And as I've said multiple times, they corrupted the FBI,
they corrupted the CIA, they corrupted our intelligence community. Nobody
believes them anymore because they blatantly lied, They falsified evidence, intel,
they made it up. But what it also did, this

(30:49):
was one of the disastrous consequences. Forget the domestic damage
that it did, and this was treason. This was a
treasonous conspiracy, there's no question. But in terms of its
foreign policy ramifications, these people haven't really looked at very much.
It launched a new Cold War against Russia, but not

(31:11):
a justified Cold War against Russia, not like the first
Cold War where you had Stalin and the Soviet Union having,
you know, a conquered Eastern Europe and the you know
massive red army you know right there, poised to invade
Western Europe. We're not talking about that. The Russians, when

(31:32):
it came to colluding with Trump in the election, were
absolutely one thousand percent innocent. They did not collude with Trump.
That was made up. That was made up by Hillary Clinton.
It was made up by Barack Obama. It was made
up by Brennan and by Clapper and by Colmi, and

(31:54):
then the America the fake news media then sold it
to the American public. They was weaponized and then they
propagandized it to the American public. The Russians on this,
their hands were clean. In fact, Astulsa Gabbard has shown
through the intelligence that she's revealed the classified documents that

(32:18):
in fact, if the Putin wanted Hillary to win a
he thought Hillary was gonna win, that was inevitable. That's
number one, Number two, he said, no, I'd rather have Hillary.
Why because they could blackmail Hillary. They knew that her
health was horrible. They knew that the Killary campaign had
covered up how bad her health was and that the

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media had covered it up from the American people. So
they felt they had what's called kompramant. Plus they had
her on the uranium that she sold to the Russians.
So Putin felt that they could blackmail her, and like
blackmailing her, they could at least to a certain degree,
control her. So this no that Putin wanted Trump to

(33:02):
win is an absolute fiction. But as I like to say,
let that go. The point is it unleashed Cold War
two point zero. It unleashed now a cold war, a
confrontation between US and Russia that was unnecessary, that was

(33:25):
based on a lie that frankly was started by US
and by our intelligence community in a way in order
to try to frame and destroy Donald Trump. Now this
is where we are, This is what all of this
is now coming. This is why it's all coming to

(33:45):
a head. According now to the latest bombshell, and Tulca
Gabbert has now confirmed it. Pambondi and the Department of
Justice have now asked the Director of National Intelligence her office,
Tulca Gabbard's office, to now hand over even more sensitive

(34:10):
classified information regarding Russia Gate and the Russia collusion hoax.
They have now opened a grand jury investigation into Obama,
the Hilda Beast, Hillary Brennan Clapper and call.

Speaker 4 (34:30):
Me me.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
Furthermore, not only now, are all of these people under
an investigation, and I'm telling you, if it's a serious investigation,
they're going down. Okay, there's no question about it. But
not only that, but now Tulsa Gabbard has revealed this
explosive piece of intelligence James Clapper, who by the way,

(34:56):
led under oath on that alone, he should go to prison.
He was the Director of National Intelligence under the dear
letter Barack Hussein Obama. Do you remember when he testified.
Remember it was Clapper that authorized the massive surveillance spying
on American citizens. It was Clapper and COMI that combined

(35:18):
to illegally spy on Trump's presidential campaign. Clapper, under oath
was asked, is the National Security Agency? Is the nssay,
is our intelligence community? Are they spying on Americans on
a mass surveillance level. Clapper's answer quote not wittingly, he lied,

(35:42):
Of course, it was wittingly. It was deliberate. They were
spying on our enemies, on their political enemies, on Conservatives,
on Republicans, on Trump. Clapper was the guy who pushed
the fake WMDs an Iraq under George W. Bush This

(36:07):
is not his first hoax. This is not his first scam.
This is not the first This wasn't the first time
that he deliberately pushed a massive lie in order to
try to control a political outcome. Listen now to Tulci Gabbert,
and this is true. And I'm going to read to

(36:29):
you straight from Clapper's own book, where in Clapper's own
book he admits, No, no, we made the whole thing up.
We relied about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. No,
we wanted that war and we wanted to smash the
Dampta pieces, and so we just said, you know what,
he's got weapons of WMD's, he's got weapons of mass destruction.

(36:54):
Listen now to Tulci. She's on a podcast with Miranda
Devine New York Post. Call him this. She's very good saying, No,
the Russia hoax wasn't his first intelligence scam. He didn't
just manufacture the law about Trump colluding with Russia and
with Putin. He's the one that also came up with

(37:16):
the WMD law that literally led the United States to
war in Iraq. Roll cut ten a, Mike.

Speaker 5 (37:27):
James Clapper was on the team that created that manufactured
intelligence assessment that led to the Iraq War. About the
Iraq WNDS, he writes about it in his book, saying
that he and his team of intelligence analysts created something

(37:48):
that was not there. When you look at his actions
then and you look at his actions in twenty sixteen
as Obama's Director of National Intelligence, you see someone who
has no problem whatsoever politicizing and manufacturing and weaponizing intelligence

(38:12):
for a political outcome.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Now, she's completely right, She's completely right. Now, I'm telling you,
Copper is going down if Tulci Gabbert is not letting
this go. She's almost It's like her and Trump are
almost single handedly or the two of them together are
just pushing this and pushing this to the point now
that Pam Bondi has no choice but to investigate and

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cash Ptel as Well's Tulsi Gabbert is not going to
let this go, and she's almost willing, willing this scandal
so that finally these people, these deep state criminals and traders,
and that's what they are are held to account. Now,
I want to go to the phone lines, but you

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got to hear this. So this is now two thousand
and three, Okay, So this is under George W. Bush.
Clapper then wasn't Director of National Intelligence that was later
under Obama, but he was then the director of what's
called the NGA, the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency. And you're

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gonna say, well, WHOA what is Jeff WHOA? How does
this make him such a key player in the Iraq
war debacle? His job? He was the director of the
agency that literally was responsible for analyzing satellite imagery another

(39:42):
so called geospatial intelligence, in other words, the satellite images
that they claimed they saw in Iraq. And it was
the NGA's assessment, okay, under Clapper that they said, no, no,
we've got the satellites. The satellites show that you've got

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these Iraqi WMD sites. And Clapper said, it's got biological weapons,
chemical weapons, nuclear weapons. We have the satellite pictures. It's
all there. And if you do, you remember Colin Powell
infamously going to the United Nations in two thousand and
three and the lead up to the war, and he

(40:25):
started to point these with these satellite pictures and wave
them and say look at this trailer, and look at
this trailer, and look at this trailer. And everybody's like, yeah,
they're trailers. No, no, our guys say, which is Clapper.
Our guy say, it's got biological weapons in there, and
chemical weapons. Hell, even nuclear weapons. This cannot stand. We

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have to invade. We cannot allow these weapons in the
hand of Saddam who could give them to al Qaeda
or other terrorist groups in the wake of nine to eleven.
But Clapper himself would later concede that the whole story
was made up. So he has a book out. This

(41:12):
is now in twenty eighteen. Okay, yes, so he's pushing
now his book, and he now describes in his book
these are his words, not mine, that the intelligence community's
assessment was not only wrong, but this is what he said.
It was built on a quote unquote house of cards,

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a house of cards that he built based on faulty
assumptions that ultimately led to the conclusion that WMD's were
present in Iraq when they weren't. Quote this is Clapper.
My fingerprints are on the infamous National Intelligence assessment of

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October twenty twenty two, sorry of October twenty two, two
thousand and two, where he says, we claimed that I
Roq and Saddam Hussein had an active WMD program. Quote
the intelligence community built a case in our own minds,

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a house of cards, as it turned out, that led
us to the conclusion with pretty high confidence that they
were there, and it turns out they weren't. And then
he said, he goes on that it was He goes
I will never forget it. But he then goes on

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to say that we knew that we were basing this
on faulty intelligence and faulty assumptions, but we said it
and gave it to them anyway, because the intelligence community
wanted a war with Iraq. Dick Cheney wanted a war

(43:10):
with Iraq. Donald Rumsfeld wanted a war with Iraq. Robert
Muller wanted a war with Iraq. George W. Bush wanted
a war with Iraq. So we gave them manufactured evidence

(43:30):
that took this country to war. That's Clapper, that's clapper.
You're gonna tell me this guy's not a trader. Now
here's what this scumbag has done. And this is just
one deep state operative. How many American lives did we

(43:51):
lose in that war in Iraq? How many good men
and women literally were killed died as a result of
that In vision, over four thousand Americans dead, over thirty
five thousand maimed or crippled, legs blown off, limbs blown off, quadriplegics, paraplegics.

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It cost us trillions of dollars. Forget all the blood
that we lost, look at the treasure. Trillions. Literally, we've
never really recovered from the Iraq War. Trillions of dollars
right down a rat hole, embroiled in a protracted conflict

(44:37):
in the Middle East. It tore our country apart. It
destroyed Iraq. Not that I'm a lover of Saddam Hussein,
far from it. But the fact of the matter is,
look what has happened to Iraq after we shattered Saddam's regime.
It led to the rise of Isis. For God's sake,

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it led to us sectarian bloodbath in Iraq, the Kurds,
the Sunnis, the Shiahs, all of them slaughtering each other.
Isis then ran wild in the Middle East for years afterwards.
Isis was born out of the darkness of the Iraq War.
How many Christians did they behead? How many is Zds

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did they behead? All of this because people like Clapper
and his boss, George Tennant, the CIA director at the time,
lied about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. This son
of a you know what, This SOB is a freaking trader,
and he gets rewarded. You see how the deep state works.

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You think, well, after this, at a bare minimum, kick
this SOB out. At a bare minimum, he's out of
a job. No, they promoted him. Obama promoted him. You're
going to be the director of National Intelligence. You're exactly
the kind of guy I need because you're a yes man.
I say jump, you say how high? And so he

(46:07):
then manufactured which is almost as destructive the Russia collusion hoax.
He I mean Brannan and Calling. The others were involved,
but he was a major key player. Now, we have
been on the verge of a nuclear war with Russia

(46:27):
ever since the invasion of Ukraine, and in many ways
because we unleashed a Cold war against Russia. That's why
we pushed NATO onto Russia's doorstep. It became now imperative
if Russia is our mortal enemy, remember that was the thinking.

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If Russia is interfering in our elections, installing a puppet
president like Trump, colluding stealing elections, Oh my god, they
have a fifth columnist in the White House. They've got
put Trump is FSB. Remember that that he was an
agent of Russia. Well, Russia now is our mortal enemy. Hey,

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so we've got to get Ukraine and NATO no matter what.
We got to revive containment that we had under the
First Cold War. And so in an act of naked
hostility towards Russia, they literally said Ukraine must enter into NATO.

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Russia said, it's our red line. They said, who cares
Russia is our enemy, Let's cross their red line and boom,
the invasion of the Ukraine was born. This is all
at the feet of Clapper and Brennan and Komi and
the Russia collusion hoax, all of this, all of this,

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there's over a million dead because of these people. That's
what their Cold War with Russia has now led to.
Now Trump is trying to unwind this war. Trump is
trying to undo the catastrophic mistakes that these deep state
criminals have unleashed on us and on the world. Clapper

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deserves to be not only exposed that SOB, he's got
to be locked up for the rest of his life.
Am I wrong? Seriously? Am I wrong?

Speaker 3 (48:36):
Now?

Speaker 1 (48:37):
Here's the latest development. Get ready, here's one more bombshell.
According to Cash Petel, FBI director, they have now found
a hidden skiff, basically a secret facility inside the FBI
in which they were what's called burn bags. This is

(48:57):
where they destroyed documents. They try to destroy thousands of
documents related to the Russia Gate collusion hoax, the Epstein
scandal as well. There are also some Epstein documents there
as well, but the overwhelming majority of these documents are

(49:18):
related now to Obama, Hillary call me, Brennan and Clapper's
role in lying to the American people and in manufacturing
the intelligence to try to frame Trump as an agent
of Russia, and then they try to burn and destroy

(49:40):
the evidence. Cash Ptel has now found the so called
burn bags as they're called, and there are now literally
thousands of sensitive classified documents that they try to destroy.
Tulsa Gabbard says, going to release even more sensitive classified information,

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my friends. If no one else has the guts to
say it, I'm gonna say it. Obama is a traitor.