Parents in the Hot Seat

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, Cooner Country. Okay, my friends, A lot, a
lot to talk about today, but there's no question about it,
one of the biggest stories right now that's taking place.
And this is not just isolated in Washington, DC. We

(00:20):
are seeing this phenomenon in almost every major city in
the United States, whether it's New York, whether it's Chicago, Chicago,
whether it's La it really a Portland, Seattle. So far,
I have not heard anything in Boston. I'm not saying
it's not happening. I just I haven't seen a story yet,

(00:44):
but I'm sure it's going to be coming to a
neighborhood near you. So and it's a phenomenon called teen takeovers.
And what is a team takeover, you may ask, Well,
a team takeover is when a group of young, mostly
male teenagers fifteen, sixteen, seventeen years old, so they're underage,

(01:08):
but like a pack of jackals, and there's no other
way to describe this. They will descend on a business,
on a restaurant, on a whatever, you know, a place
where an ice cream shop, and they just start fighting.

(01:28):
I mean, I'm not kidding, and I don't just mean
a shot here or a shot there. They go absolutely,
it's bedlam. They go wild, you know, Fists are flying,
people are kicking, Furniture is being thrown. The patrons are
being absolutely terrorized. And then when they hear the sirens

(01:50):
or they see the police flashlights, they're the flashing lights
of the police. They all run off and then rinse, wash, repeat.
They do it again, usually at a different location, and
this time people have had enough. In Washington, DC in particular,

(02:11):
which seems to be the epicenter. Video now has come out.
I'm sure many of you have seen it. It's a
massive story all over the country. It's gone viral of
a chipotele or a Sandy would like to call it Chipotle. Seriously,
she calls it Chipotle, and I'm like, and you make
fun of the way I talk, the way I pronounce things.

(02:33):
But anyway, let that go at a Chipotle restaurant. And
by the way, people ask me, Jeff, do you like Chipotle?
I love Chipotle. I do, honestly, I love Chipotle. Grace
loves Chipotle, ashton ava and the chicken. I love that
nice chicken bowl, brown rice, black beans, mild salsa, corn,

(02:57):
a little bit of cheese and lettuce and nice. It's
just a little bit of sour cream lah with a
diet coke. I'm a happy man. But anyway, let that go.
At a Chipotle restaurant in the Navy Yard in Washington, DC.

(03:18):
This happened sometime over the weekend. Video has now come out.
It is absolutely shocking. There's just no other way to
put it. If you haven't seen it, let me describe
it for you. It is a group of young African
American men. I would say there's at least ten or fifteen.

(03:40):
They're all wearing masks, you know, these sort of a
medical masks that were popularized by Fauci and Biden under COVID.
And they're all dressed in black. I don't know why,
but their pants are black. They're wearing hoodies to conceal
their face, all in black, and they have these masks

(04:01):
to cover their face. All done on purpose. They apparently
met up at this Chipotle and it's like two warring sides.
I don't know how else to describe this. It's the
weirdest thing. They enter the Chipotle and by the way,
it's packed. It's full of customers. Fami, you know, these

(04:24):
are families that are eating out. There was a baby
there was a small girl on a high chair. There
were elderly people there. There were some other teenagers there
who weren't causing trouble. They were just there to grab
a bite to eat. So you have family, you know,
families there, patrons, customers there, and they are absolutely terrorized

(04:50):
as these two warring sides. They all sort of pour
into the Chipotle, and then inside the Chipotle they start
wailing at on on another. I mean they're really going
at it. They're punching, kicking, they start grabbing the furniture,
They're hitting each other with chairs, tables, They're throwing chairs

(05:12):
across the entire room. One guy grabbed a high chair.
One father grabbed his young daughter, she may have been
two years old, from the high chair. And they're cowering
in the corner in front of these I'm sorry, these
are animals the way they're behaving. And one of them
grabbed the high chair and uses it like a makeshift

(05:35):
sledgehammer and starts just pounding someone else. One of the
other you know, one of the other youths with the
one of these other thugs with the you know, dressed
in black, and they're just pounding that person over the head,
using the high chair like a sledgehammer. So the restaurant

(05:55):
within three minutes is absolutely trashed. It is destroyed, food everywhere,
chairs flying, punches, flying, people kicking, two three, beating up
one guy. Then they come and then a couple of
his friends help him out, and they start hitting a

(06:15):
couple of those people with a chair over the head.
I thought they were going to kill each other. The
workers are yelling, shouting, screaming, they're calling nine to one one.
You hear the parents, You hear these patrons. They're they're
frightened out of their minds. I don't blame them. Parents
are concerned their babies and their young children could be

(06:37):
seriously injured, if not killed. Let me just give you
a taste of this atmosphere of violence and terror that
took place at this Chapotle, as Sandy would put it,
at Chipotle. Roll cut eleven, Mike, I mean, they're lucky

(07:14):
nobody was killed. I'm serious, They're lucky nobody was killed. Now,
this is not a one off. This is what I'm
trying to say. This is not all you know, teams
will be teams or whatever. This is happening over and
over and over again, these sort of team takeovers in
city after city, Washington in particular, but in other cities.

(07:36):
It has gotten so bad that now the United States
Attorney for the District of Columbia, Janine Pierro, whom I love,
by the way, in a non sexual way, obviously, but
whom I love Janine Pierro, now has come out and
said it's becoming an epidemic. And now she's doing something

(07:57):
very controversial. She says, not only are we going to
go after and punish these teenagers for assault, for vandalism,
for delinquency, in other words, throw the book at them,
but she said, I'm also getting sick and tired of
the parents. These are fourteen, fifteen, sixteen year old kids,

(08:20):
and the parents are letting them out. They're letting them
rome the streets on their own. They're dropping them off
at all these locations, or they meet up with their friends,
and then they go to wherever the parents go. And
then these teens, dressed in black or whatever, wearing their masks,
then go and terrorize a place of business or a restaurant,

(08:43):
or an ice cream shop, or a McDonald's or a
Wendy's or whatever it may be. And she says that
now the parents are going to be held responsible and
accountable as well for the action and behavior of their violent,
out of control teenage kids. And she now says, I've

(09:08):
had it. This is going on, this is out of control,
this is bad parenting, it's irresponsible parenting, and it's getting
people hurt, and it's now terrorizing our city and we've
got to stop this before we become an absolutely third
world hell hole. And so she's now saying that if

(09:30):
children are caught or teenagers are caught in one of
these teen takeovers like the one at Chipotle that went
viral over the weekend, she's also going to charge the
parents as well. They're going to have to pay a fine.
They're gonna have to if their child is found guilty.
And you know you did the video footage shows who

(09:52):
participated and who didn't. The parents are going to be
forced to take mandatory classes on proper, good, effective parenting,
and the parents themselves may face up to six months
in prison. I'm gonna play the cut on the other side,

(10:13):
because Janine Piro's comments now are causing a lot of controversy.
Some people say this is not the way we do
things in America. You don't punish the parents for the
actions of the children or for the actions of teenagers.
This is their own free will. The parents can't be
blamed for the actions of someone else, while many others,

(10:35):
and I'll be honest myself included, I think it's time
to hold these parents accountable. If you're not disciplining your child,
if you're not parenting your child, if you're allowing your
child to run wild. All right, hopefully we're going to
start loading up the lines six one seven, two, six, six,

(10:57):
sixty eight, sixty eight if you want to weigh in
on this. So what you're having now, again, Washington, DC
is the epicenter, but this is happening in cities all
over the country, all over the country, and you see
these what are called teen takeovers. And just to give
you an example, in some places in Washington, you're looking

(11:17):
at twenty, sometimes thirty forty teenagers and they'll go into
a I don't know, a grocery store or a pharmacy
or as I said, a restaurant, or what happened over
the weekend was at Chipotle, and it's like a pre
arranged meeting where two I don't know, almost like gangs
or whatever. Two sides. Two packs of teenage thugs will

(11:41):
be dressed all in black and they cover their faces
and they wear hoodies so they can't be seen by
cameras or their faces can't be detected, and they just
start going at each other. And you know, if they
were just beating each other on a street corner or something,
well that's between them. I mean, you shouldn't do it, obviously,
But what they're doing is for example, in the Chipotle,

(12:04):
but they do this all the time. It's not just
you know, this is the one that's caught in the
most attention. Furniture was flying, hide shares were being used
as sledgehammers, makeshift sledge hammers. They were punching, beating each other.
It was pandemonium, it was bedlam. It was violent, it
was it was almost a form of terrorism. It was traumatic.

(12:27):
You have children crying, parents in an absolute panic and
sheer terror, thinking that they're going to be beaten to death,
or their children is going to be killed, or or
their kids are going to be badly hurt or maimed.
And you have a pack of teenage girls and that's
what happens every time. I guess they've been tipped off
or told you know, we're going to hit this place

(12:48):
at this time, and many of them are giggling and
laughing and cheering on the boys that are fighting, and
then the girls are almost as lookouts. They go, oh, cops, cops, cops,
and then everybody just runs away and you see like
twenty thirty of them just running down the street trying
to evade the police. So it has gotten so bad

(13:13):
and it's so rampant that they have now imposed a
curfew for people under the age of eighteen in Washington, DC.
You are not allowed to be out after a certain
time to try to curb and crack down clamp down
on these so called team takeovers. Now, this was before

(13:38):
the big brawl at Chipotle, just maybe a day before.
Listen now to Janine Piro saying to parents, you're gonna
start being held responsible. We have a curfew if your
child is out past that curfew and as been involved

(14:00):
in one of these team takeovers, meaning you're not parenting
or supervising your children. We're not just going to arrest
your child, Okay, we're going to arrest you. We're going
to start holding you the parent or parents responsible. Roll
Cut twelve a Mike, and it.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Sends a clear message to the parents. You must supervise
your kids or face criminal consequences. Law abiding tax players
should no longer have to pay for parental neglect.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
And as we take back.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Our streets, as you've heard today, there will be no excuses.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
Parents.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Do your jobs or we will do ours. I'm with
her all the way. I'm with her all the way.
Parents do your jobs. Lack of parenting, honestly, lack of respect,
respect for the community, respect for yourself, respect for your

(15:08):
fellow citizens. Why aren't these teenagers in school, Why aren't
they studying? They should be at home instead. It's nine
to ten, eleven o'clock, whatever it is, and they're running
wild on the streets. And by the way, they're not

(15:28):
just fighting each other. It's you know, over and over again,
they see an elderly woman or an elderly man, and
they'll just walk up in two, three, four of them
and just beat the living daylights out of them. I
mean I'm talking knock them out, punch them in the face,
punch them in the head, kick them, stomp them, assault them,
beat them, burglarize them. And then like a pack they

(15:52):
just run off and attack someone else. This I mean,
I'm sorry, this is this is savagery, and taxpayers, law
abiding citizens. You know, we have a right to save streets.
We do. We have a right to go to a
restaurant like Chipotle or a Sandy calls it Chapotle. And

(16:15):
if I bring my child or I bring my little
you know, my little girl or my little boy, or
my wife or whatever you're with your husband, a you know,
I'm sorry. I have a right to have a meal
in piece, not to suddenly turn around and see twenty
twenty five strong fifteen sixteen, seventeen year old. You know,
thugs just start beating on each other and then you know,

(16:37):
furniture is flying. Chairs are flying, hide chairs are flying,
tables are flying, and you know, you're you're by the way,
they're lucky. Somebody one of those kids wasn't hitting the
head with one of those flying chairs and had their
head smashed completely wide open. And you're asking yourself, do
they have a gun, do they have a knife? Or
they gonna shoot me? Are they gonna shoot my wife?

(16:59):
Are they going to shoot my children?

Speaker 5 (17:03):
No?

Speaker 1 (17:03):
I'm sorry, where are the parents now? After eighteen? Once
a certain age, Yeah, you're an adult. I don't think
you can blame the parents for that, but these are
fifteen sixteen year old kids. I'm sorry. They're still under
the charge and care and authority of the parents. And
obviously the parents are not parenting. I don't know what

(17:25):
they're doing, but they're clearly not supervising and parenting and
watching over their kids, that's for sure. So okay, I'm
going to play the cut coming back in. Then I
want to start to take calls. Janine Piro now says
what you saw at that Chipotle restaurant was done because
these teenage punks thought they could get away with it,

(17:49):
think they can do whatever they want with impunity. Six
one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight is
the number. Okay, listen now to US Attorney for the
District of Columbia, Janine Piro. She held a major press
conference on that violent brawl that erupted in that Chipotle
in Washington's Navy Yard. Clearly, now it's a turning point.

(18:15):
Residents are sick of it, businesses are sick of it.
Many of the law abiding people who live in that
part of DC are absolutely sick of it. And you
can tell she's sick of it. She's now saying, they
think they're going to get away with this, They're not
getting away with it. Roll cut twelve, Mike.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
These are not harmless gatherings. They are violent and they
are disrupted. And you can see from what happened at
Chipotle's this past weekend, it was not just violence occurring
between individuals. It was simply destruction of property. It was
in takeover of a restaurant by individuals who felt that

(19:02):
they could get away with it. Well, they're not going
to get away with it, and I'm going to tell
you how in a couple of minutes. But this terrorizing
is going to end, and the message that lawlessness runs
the streets is over. The city belongs to law abiding residents,
not roaming mobs looking to make a name for themselves

(19:24):
or to contribute to the chaos or violence and to
get social media attention.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Well, and she's right about the social media. I mean,
she's right on everything, but she's right about the social
media attention because they're filming this. That's the amazing thing
about these team takeovers. They're filming themselves. Now, you know,
to be fair to them, I mean, you're not completely stupid.
They have hoodies. They wear these mess they said, medical

(19:51):
masks or emergency use masks, so it's hard to identify
their faces. Again, they're all dressed in black, black shoes,
black pants, bl black hoodies, and they just go at it.
So and and you and and there's a lot of
you know, a lot of girls, teenage girls who watch
film record this and it's a great show and they

(20:13):
love it and they find it exciting and thrilling. And
then they just they like like, they just like it's
like a mob and they just a roaming mob. They
just go from one business to another establishment, to a
grocery store, to a pharmacy. Ooh, there's an elderly woman,
let's beat the hell out of her. Oh, look at this.
There's a couple walking on the streets. Let's go beat

(20:35):
the hell out of them. Oh there's a woman with
the baby stroller. Well, let's beat the hell out of
the woman, the mother. And this is how they're terrorizing.
You know. Again, it's not just DC, it's other cities
as well. So look, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen years old, My
question is, why aren't you home studying? You don't want

(20:55):
to study? Okay, why aren't you I don't know playing basketball.
Why aren't you at the gym? Why aren't you playing
watching TV? And I think I'm a big fan of
watching TV. But do something, but don't run around on
the streets assaulting people and destroying and trashing businesses and
terrorizing customers. Now this is where she drops the hammer.

(21:20):
Listen now to Janine Piro saying, I'm done with parental
neglect and I'm done with the fact that they are
not parenting and there's no supervision, no discipline, no consequences
from the parents whatsoever. So now when we arrest your child,
we're going to prosecute your child. Then we're coming after you.

(21:43):
Roll cut twelve, B Mike.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
This is a different scenario than any other time in
the history of the district because we are looking beyond
those individuals who are committing the crimes, irrespective of how
they are, and we're looking at the parents to make
sure that they understand that they are responsible for the

(22:07):
up people that is going on in this district that
is impacting everyone who lives here.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
So she now says, and I'll play some more cuts.
I want to get to the phone lines six one, seven, two, six,
six sixty eight sixty eight. She's going to charge them
under a statute contributing to the delinquency of a minor.
And she says, we're going to nail you on that statute.
And what you're going to do is you're either going

(22:35):
to pay a fine. You're gonna have to pay for
the damage done to a restaurant or an establishment. So
you're gonna have to pay for the damage done by
your children. So you're going to be fined, You're going
to be forced, compelled to take mandatory classes on how
to be a proper super parent who supervises and disciplines
and watches over your child. And maybe not on the

(22:58):
first go around, but certainly on the same can go around,
you're going to be facing up to six months in prison.
So my question to you, and it's the question before
the house to Kooner Country. Should parents be held responsible legally?
Should they be held legally accountable for the criminal behavior

(23:21):
and criminal actions of their teenage children, especially when they
engage in mob behavior in these sort of teenage take takeovers,
when they start destroying businesses, assaulting people, terrorizing customers, essentially
running wild. Should the parents be blamed and should the

(23:45):
parents get a fine or even go to jail. Six
one seven two six, six sixty eight sixty eight Steve
and Seabrook, you're gonna kick us off, Steve, thanks for
holding and.

Speaker 6 (23:58):
Welcome hey, Jeff. So here's the problem. The politicians are
too slow to react. They need to pass some laws
that says, if you participate in one of these these
violent takeovers, these smash and grabs, you're gonna do a
mandatory sentence, no slap on the wrists, no probation, You're
gonna go to jail automatically for three months, six months,

(24:20):
a year, depending on what it is.

Speaker 7 (24:22):
But it's mandatory.

Speaker 6 (24:23):
There's no you know, letting them out early. Always a
good guy, just I don't care if you're holding the
door open. If you participate, you're going to jail. And
then what they can do is, once they pass that law,
they can have the police departments go into the schools,
have an assembly and explain to all the kids in
the high schools that this is the new rule now

(24:44):
that we're not gonna put up with it. You're gonna
so everybody knows ahead of time that if they participate
in this type of stuff, they're gonna get in trouble.
And then as far as the social media stuff, you know,
that's another problem. They need to pass some laws about that.

Speaker 7 (24:57):
You know, if you're.

Speaker 6 (24:58):
Posting these videos, you know we're gonn to go after you.
I know there might be some First Amendment you know,
issues on that that have to work through. But you know,
you see it all the time. And the parents. You
see these parents all the time. You know, they're flipping
out at mcdonald'scause they have French fries of cold and
they have kids with them and they're smashing everything. It's
like no, like that's not acceptable.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
You can't do that stuff.

Speaker 6 (25:19):
It's unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
What's going on is.

Speaker 6 (25:20):
See, but the politicians are too slow to react.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Oh, I agree with you. Look, I think there needs
to be tough for laws on the books, and we
got to go after these these thugs. I don't care
if they're fifteen, sixteen, seventeen years old. I agree with
you because you look, those are big those are those
were big kids. Let me tell you, I saw the
size of those kids. Those are big kids. They can
do a lot of damage. And I mean I felt

(25:44):
so sorry for the for the patriots, for the customers, fathers, mothers,
you know, teenagers, children, couples. I mean, you could see
the terror on their face. So like if somebody just
gonna smash my head open or beat me to death
or kill me or whatever. I mean, I'm sorry, this
is unacceptable. But let me ask you to the heart

(26:06):
of the matter. If these children are which if these
teenagers are arrested, should the mother or the father or both.
Many of them don't have a father, which is a
problem right there, because there's no strong father figure to
really impose discipline and order in the home. So a

(26:27):
lot of these are coming from single parent families, usually
single moms who are just struggling to hold the whole
thing together. Okay, but let that go. Should the parents
go to jail as well as their children? What say you?

Speaker 6 (26:43):
That might be a little bit of a problem because
if it is a single parent, it's like, now what
do you do with the kids? And then you know,
they still got to pay rent, like what happens, So
it could be a dangerous slippery slope. But there should
definitely be consequences, you know, like you said, do the
classes to do the probate and they do restitution, maybe
they have to do volunteer work to help clean up

(27:04):
the restaurant. You know, people forget you know, the insurance
company will pay for the damage. Well guess what now
that that restaurant just lost business for a day, two days,
or a week while they're repairing all that stuff. And
some businesses can't survive that, especially if it's a little
mom and pop, you know, little subshop or some they
just destroyed. They can't afford to be down for a
week with no sales. So it's a it's a big problem.

Speaker 7 (27:25):
So they did.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
And then and the insurance rates go up, you say,
and that that's imposed even a heavier cost on the
on the business owner. So you're right on every count. Okay,
Steve says, Look, maybe you not put him in jail.
Maybe just give him a fine, or have them pay restitution,
or have them say no, you got to come and
help clean it up. Your you know, your child made

(27:47):
the mess. You and the child. They have to come
and clean us up. Okay, just very quickly, because many
of you are making this important point on the text line.
I'm getting flooded with text emails. By the way, you
can tech the kooner Man seven zero four seven zero
seven zero four seven zero, and as always you can
call in six one seven two six six sixty eight

(28:10):
sixty eight, Jeff, as many of you are saying, the
problem if you want to put parents behind bars for
in other words, jailing them along with their children for
their violent behavior, okay, they're out of control, violent destructive behavior,

(28:33):
is then the child's in prison, the parent is in prison,
and what if there are other children at home? Who
takes care of those children? And usually in some of
these areas at least, this is what many black community
leaders are saying, that the problem already is that there's one,

(28:55):
if not both parents in jail. Usually the fathers in
jail and the mother may be in jail or not
in jail. So they're saying, all you're doing by incarcerating
is making the problem worse, because now the children who
are much younger who need their mother, don't have a mother,

(29:17):
and what they're going to go into the foster care system,
so the state's going to take them over, like that's
going to work out really good for them. So what
they're saying is rather than, you know, making it better,
all you're going to do is make it worse. So
they don't like that this idea of putting parents in
jail for up to six months, which then begs the question, well,

(29:43):
you know, something has to be done to have these
parents realize that there's consequences to the actions of their
children and frankly to their own neglect. If they're not
going to parent, and if they're not going to supervise,
and in Manya cases, they're gonna drop the child off,
they drive them, they drop them off. Whatever. Okay, spend

(30:06):
a couple hours with your friends, knowing full well that
they're involved in this kind of destructive mob and you know,
destructive mob mob activity. Then you're aiding and abetting your child.
I mean, you call that parenting son, hang out with
your buddies and go Trasha chapattele Hey, son, you guys

(30:27):
go to a CVS and recket and beat each other's
brains out while you're at it, Like that's your idea
of being a good mother or a good father or
a good parent. So Janine Piro's at her wits end.
I don't blame her, and she's saying no, no, no,
there's gonna be consequences and maybe if there's real consequences,
this will force compel the parents to finally do their job. Agree, disagree.

(30:54):
Dave in Malden, Thanks for holding Dave, and welcome I Dave.
How were you, my friend Jeff.

Speaker 7 (31:05):
Back in the day, they used to have a nine
o'clock curfew every day of the week. If you weren't
in by nine o'clock, the curfew bell goes off and
you'd being picked up and arrested for just being on
the street. Okay, Now, what what all these restaurants in
Chipotle and all these places like this should do, is

(31:29):
what market Basket and others uh stopping shops are doing.
They should have at least three or four undercover inside
the restaurant, especially at night time when this is going on.
That way, if anything does happen to get the hoodies,
the cops are right there undercover and they get take

(31:50):
them down right there and then. And at the same time, Jeff.
This is also due because a lot of the video
games are coming on, and they're on the video games
all day long figuring, oh, yeah, we can do this
for real, and so they're doing it. They're copying the
video games that they're watching on their phone, or they're
watching the movies that are coming out on half of

(32:12):
the movies that come out today, Jeff. It's not but
kicking them in the head and shoeld. I mean, this
is what's going on. It's the movies and the beat
the video games that are coming out, and all of
this is destruction.

Speaker 6 (32:24):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (32:24):
The parents, on the other hand, yeah, they should be
how responsible to pay a hefty fine. Not a small fine,
but a hefty fine. Jeff. I had an issue years ago,
and I won't say exactly what, but I had a
rest I had an issue with a manager at a
restaurant here and Mauldon many years ago. I didn't hurt

(32:46):
the guy, Jeff, but the guy really pushed my buttons
at the time, Jeff, I did six months because of it.
I never did anything wrong, but the guy instigated it,
and then I got myself in trouble because of it.
It's like, Okay, every one of these kids are going
into the restaurants beating up big beating up people. Inside

(33:06):
of the restaurants. People are sitting there doing just mind
their business. Every one of them should be taken down.
Put it put six months to a year at least
the year, Jeff. They want to act like a tough
guy in the restaurant, put them into all pull for
it for six months. Put them in Northwalk for six months,
put them down, Oh, put them up and bill Rick

(33:28):
for six months. See how bad they are. This is
what they need to do, Jeff. Have under cover cops
in each restaurant this way, so those scenes go down Bank.
They got them right there. They yank the damn hoods
off of the mask us. They out want to play
high and home and how they can seek no more games? Jeff.
Put them on in jail, forget the forget the probation

(33:48):
six months for a year, at least a minute twelve
year for each one of them. And yes, the family
should be held responsible.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Dave, you're right. I think you're clicking on all cylinders days.
Let me throw this in the mix and tell me
what you think. One of the big reasons why they're
doing this and why they're pretty much getting away with it,
is because they go into these establishments. And you saw
it at that Chipotle brawl. But it doesn't matter. It's
over and over again. They wear these COVID masks or whatever,

(34:19):
the masks that they popularized under COVID, these cloth masks
that cover almost their entire face, then they put a
hoodie on top of it, so you really the camera.
I mean, if you look at that video, and I
urge all of you to look at it if you can,
it's going to disgust you, but you'll get a sense
of how just savage and brutal it is. How I mean,

(34:42):
you're like, you know, where are we?

Speaker 5 (34:45):
Like?

Speaker 1 (34:45):
What is this the law of the jungle? Like you
just come in and you start, first of all, beating
the hell out of each other and just destroying the
place for nothing, I mean literally nothing, because you think
it's fun and cool. But the point is you can't

(35:06):
make out their faces. And because they're all dressed the same.
You know, you can't even make out, well, that person
I don't know a blue jeans and a white shirt,
or that one had shorts and a red shirt or whatever.
It's all they're dressed the same. And then the faces
are covered and they have the hoodies. You can't identify them,
you can't make them out. What about we have to

(35:28):
start doing this. If I don't see your face, you're
not allowed to come in if you've got a mask.
I don't care this COVID nonsense anymore. COVID is six
years in the rearview mirror. Enough with the panic, porn,
in the hysteria. You come into an establishment, I want
to see your face. I want you to pull your
hoodie back, or you take your baseball cap off or whatever,

(35:50):
and I want the mask off your face so the
camera can spots your face. Do we need to start
doing this day? Or we don't serve you period?

Speaker 7 (36:00):
What say you, Jeff, I wonn't serve them. I wouldn't
even let them inside. But you know, and then on
the other side of the coin, they're gonna force themselves
into wherever they want to go. These kids today, they
don't care, Jeff. They come up, they get this ghetto
attitude about themselves figure and they can do whatever they

(36:20):
want and they don't care who gets hurt because of
it all. They don't care, Jeff. There's no paling. The
parents should be liable for what the kids are doing,
cuts and not raising their kids the way they're supposed
to be getting raised, and the parents should be held liable.
And these kids need to go to jail. That's what
comes down to. They're gonna force themselves into any place,

(36:43):
whether you say so or not. They're gonna cause trouble
and cause more damage. The costs inside under cover.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
I love it. I love it. I mean it's gonna
be expensive, but if that's what we gotta do, that's
what we gotta do.

Speaker 7 (36:56):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
Dave always I love your calls. They've thank you so much.
I really appreciate it. Dave says, No, we got to
beef up security and throw the book at these kids,
these teenagers. And no mandatory six months, mandatory year, whatever
it is, but let them know they're going to be
real legal consequences. You come into an establishment, you assault

(37:20):
customers or assault each other, I don't care. And you
start destroying the place, tossing chairs, tossing tables, grabbing high
chairs with children crying in the corner, and smashing people
over the head with it like a sledgehammer, a makeshift hammer. No,
you're going to go to jail period mandatory, that's it. Agree, disagree,

(37:45):
And that the parents should pay a massive fine. Maybe
you don't send them to prison as well, but they
got to pay, and you know, and mandatory classes, in
other words, start shaming the parents. Six one seven two
six six sixty eight sixty eight. Look tell me if
I'm wrong on this, If your experience was different than mine.

(38:08):
God is my witness as you know. I look, I
was rebellious like every teenager fifteen, sixteen, seventeen. I did
things I'm not proud of. But I never did this.
Why A I was raised not to do this? Clearly

(38:29):
and more importantly, I'm be honest with you. If I
was arrested for trashing a restaurant or a pharmacy, or
you know, joining in a fight where like a you know,
like like a pack of walls or beating people up,
or I'm throwing chairs and tables and high chairs, my
father would have leveled me. Forget the police. My bigger

(38:55):
worry would be my old man. I'd be like, he's
gonna kill me. I mean, I'm just I'm being honest
with you, and I know that people I grew up with,
I'm sure when they're listening to the show, they're like
nodding their head up and I'm like, yeah, I mean,
I'm sorry. I mean, it would have been forget the belt,
bam back of the head, Bam back of the head, bam,

(39:16):
back of the head. I raised you like this, I
mean it would grounded for a year. I mean, it'd
be world War three in the house. So you're just thinking,
as this thing is breaking out, Nan nah, I don't
want to I don't want to know my old man.
Nah nah, it's not worth it. And let me just

(39:38):
say something else. I remember now, this was what early eighties,
late seventies, early eighties. Here in our neighborhood. We had
police officers that, you know, one cop walk to beat
literally just walk to beat with a billy club. And
he never used it on me or any of my friends,

(39:58):
but just the fact that he was walking the streets
with a billy club. And sometimes he would say, hey,
go home, Like if it's nine, nine thirty ten o'clock
or whatever on a summer night and we're outside playing
basketball or whatever, you say, go home. No it's too late,
go home like whatever, I don't care, go home, watch TV,
do whatever, read a comic book. I don't care what

(40:20):
you do. No, nine nine thirty ten o'clock, there's going
to be trouble. He just said, go home. That's it.
And the parents were like, yeah, what the hell were
you doing out so late? Anyway, we turn our back
and you guys are still playing outside. And if someone
did confront a police officer or you know, assault someone,

(40:41):
or you know a lot of times they weren't charged. Literally,
the cop with the billy club bang one shot to
the head. I'm not saying it never happened to me
or any of my friends, but you heard stories and
that officer walking around with that club. I'm telling you
put the fear of God into everybody. It worked. You

(41:05):
could walk at two in the morning, a mother by
yourself for whatever reason, she can't sleep, she takes her
baby in a stroller, she could walk the sidewalk at
two in the morning. And I'm saying one thousand percent safe.

(41:29):
Now you can't even go to a freaking Chipotle at
eight o'clock at night. You're lucky you're not shot, mugged,
or have a chair smashed over your head. Six one
seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Am I wrong?
Because I think I'm describing is similar to what many

(41:50):
of you probably grew up with as well. Kelly in Beverly,
Thanks for holding Kelly, and welcome.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
Hey Jack, How are you doing this morning?

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Very good? How are you, Kelly?

Speaker 3 (42:04):
No? Doing good? I'm your shrink that used to call
there a while back my house. Growing up, people would
tell you that it was like my brother and I
grew up in two different houses because I was the
good child. My brother got in trouble with the law constantly,
and it wasn't my parents though, yes they should be fine,

(42:25):
but go to jail. I can't go with that because
my mom and dad tried their best to have my
brother follow the law. But my brother was picked up
for auto theft. He had this ring going on where
they stole bicycles, repainted them, and sold them again. And
he was fourteen doing this fourteen years old, and my

(42:48):
parents had no idea that I can't. I can't justify
putting the parents in jail, but I can't justify finding
them and let the kid pay. Do something to pay too.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Kelly, if I'm getting too personal, please tell me when
your brother was arrested safe for auto theft or for
running that, you know, painting and then reselling the bicycles,
stealing bicycles, repainting and then selling them. When your father
and mother found out, were there consequences.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
My mother coddled him. That's the parent who was the coddler,
and she was like, oh my baby, not my baby,
where my dad was like he's grounded for life, even
though he wasn't you know what I'm.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Saying, Oh, no, I hear you. Well, no, my mother
was not a coddler either though. I mean just so.
But you're basically saying there were consequences. You're just saying, look,
my brother had this rebellious streak in him. Now I
take it he turned things around later, right.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
Kelly died of alcoholism at fifty four. Oh so sorry,
he would have been fifty nine yesterday. Actually that's what
maybe call.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Oh I am so sorry. So but now he didn't
become a but did he become a career criminal, a
career alcoholic.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
More than anything, he didn't want to work for a living.
We wanted to live off of us. Hev on it
for John Carrey.

Speaker 7 (44:14):
What can I say?

Speaker 1 (44:16):
Oh geez, I'm sorry to hear that.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
It was a total You totally wanted to live off everybody.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Else, Kelly. And you're saying that didn't come from your parents.
Your parents raised him right. Maybe your mother over indulged him,
but overall they were supervising him, They loved him, they
cared for him. You're saying he was just in some ways.
You know, he had he had issues, and that Ultimately,
you can't blame the parents for that, correct.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
I mean, there's a point in our lives where and
I'm saying this probably as a former counselor, we make
our own decisions. Fourteen is old enough to say we
know what right is right from wrong, whatever your parents
tell you, and we know what kind of friends to
have fourteen years old that are going to be positive
or negative influence. It's up to that fourteen year old

(45:03):
to decide. I think it's old enough to decide fifteen sixteen,
of course, yes, but sometimes parents just have no idea.
And yes there are I mean, this is twenty twenty six.
There are homes where there's no father And that is
a sad thing to say, seeing because if you don't

(45:24):
have a father in the home, you also don't have
a lot of things going on that could actually help
you with the right and wrong and being in paying
for the paying the consequences of your actions.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
Kelly, thank you very much for that call. So here's
an example. Kelly says, Look, my parents were good parents.
My perfect obviously, no one is. But they loved her
brother and he just she was just trouble. It was
more the bottle than anything. Else. But the point is

(45:56):
he did commit crimes, and so to put the parents
in would just be wrong. So Kelly says, maybe have
the parents find maybe help them, you know, clean up
if they do damage or pay restitution. Yes, but sending
them to prison that's too far. Agree. Disagree. Chris in

(46:18):
Tampa Bay, Florida. Thanks for holding Chris, and welcome. Because
you sound like you're muzzled. I can barely hear you.
Like literally, you sound like someone has a hand over
your mouth. They're like, oo, I mean that's how you sound.

Speaker 5 (46:34):
Oh that sound better?

Speaker 1 (46:35):
Oh, night and day. Go ahead, Chris.

Speaker 5 (46:38):
Yeah, well I talk sometimes way too loud for the phone.

Speaker 8 (46:42):
That's what I done.

Speaker 5 (46:44):
Yeah. So I don't know what you heard from Kelly,
but what I heard was that, you know, her mother
coddled the boy, which means when the mother caddles and
she's consistently doing it, it means the fathers female dominated
in a wimp because there's no way of God's green earth.

(47:05):
My family had four boys, Jeff, there's no way my
mother coddled any of us. As a matter of fact,
I sent you a text message. I was arrested. I
was picked up by the cops. For throwing a baseball
through a school window purposely, and that's where they brought me. Now,

(47:31):
this is when cops traveled in partnerships, unlike they do today.
Everything's going to hell in a handbasket in our society.

Speaker 8 (47:41):
But the bottom line is that when I was being
brought home, I wasn't being brought to jail.

Speaker 5 (47:48):
I was being brought to home. I was screaming for
them to bring me to jim because I knew what
was going to happen when I got home.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
Listen, So I don't mean to laugh. I'm just reminding
my dad. Like I remember, I didn't. I never got
in trouble with the police, but like you know, with
school with the principal, and I'm like, please just don't
tell my dad. Anything is where, anything is better. Please
put me in jail. Just don't tell my dad. Anyway,

(48:20):
Keep going, Chris, you're on a roll.

Speaker 8 (48:25):
Down my pants, got my brothers, got all my brothers together,
pulled down my pants and gave me a spanking on
my buttocks. That's what God made buttocks for. Long story short,
sitting in spankings. Long story short, is that do you
think that the police ever had a problem with me

(48:46):
ever again, No, but I did, at sixteen start to
flex my male muscles because you know, the hormones were rushing.

Speaker 5 (48:55):
And one day I called my mom a miserable bitch.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Chris, can you just hang on? I'm up against a break.
I don't want you to rush your story. So Chris
is basically saying you have to have a strong father
in the home, a disciplinarian,