Peace at Any Price?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mark in Medford. Thanks for holding Mark and.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Welcome good more than Jeff.

Speaker 3 (00:06):
Happy Monday to you, my friend.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Happy Monday to you, my buddy. What do you make
of all this?

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Well, first of all, I think it's comical that Iran
is asking and wants demands like they're holding us hostage. Okay, No,
we set the demands, not Iran. And let's face it, Jeff,
there was never a deal to be made. It was
never going to happen because Iran all they do is
lie and did the biggest bulls crap artist. I almost

(00:34):
said it, the bull crap artist on the face of
the earth. So and as far as you're fire, you
want fine, and you want us to leave the region.
Well here's the deal. Trump should tell him, I'll leave
the region. I'm gonna make Iran a pocket a lot,
and then.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
You're on your own.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Then you tell NATO go screw yourself. We're done being
the police of everybody.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
What do you think, Mark, what do you think Trump
is going to do this? I think this is now
the question. He clearly called it off. You know, the
Persian Gulf Allies, the Saudis, the Kuwaits, the United Arab Emirates,
they don't want him to do the massive bombing for fear,
as I said, it'll destabilize their economies and their country,

(01:19):
which I understand, but you know, you got to do
with in your best interest. And he's worried about the midterms.
And again, you know, the closer we get, if gas
keeps going up, he's going to be in a pickle
because the DSA they're running on the cost of gas,
energy affordability. They're making that hard pitch and they're selling communism.

(01:45):
They always sell communism when times are tough. Charlie Kirk
always said this. He said, the reason why socialists arising
is because if people can't afford to buy a home,
if they can't pay for groceries, or they're struggling to
pay for groceries and to pay their bills, socialism gives
them an easy out. Socialism says, we'll take care of

(02:09):
it for you. That's why it's so appealing. And so
Trump realizes the DSA message false as it is, fantastical,
as it is destructive, as it is, you know, a
failure as it is, but it's appealing to people because

(02:30):
they're finding things expensive, cost of living is high, and
so he wants to bring gas down, energy down, inflation down,
So he's kind of caught between a rock and a
hard place. If you were Trump, what would you do.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
I'm hard to answer because I look at this way
as far as the gas prices go, Unfortunately, we have
to be on the international market. We have more than
a oil to the cave anybody in this country and
other countries, but unfortunately we have to be on the
international market. So that's out of the question. And say,
you know what, fine, we'll get out of Iran. You

(03:11):
could keep your oil, you could keep your straight of
home moves and all that crap, but unfortunately we can't.
And Jeff, I really think. And then the other thing is,
if Iran started this, I can understand Trump saying, you
know what, we're done, We're getting out, But you know
what he started at, Jeff, So now I think he

(03:33):
has to finish it, don't you think?

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Oh? I agree. I so It's amazing how you and
are sympatico on so many issues. I so agree. You know,
I think if you started it, you know the expression
you break it, you own it. Well, you know you
basically you broke yourng I mean, for the luck, let's
be honest. Militarily, you know, I mean, they're they're never
going to be the same, at least for a long time.

(03:57):
And politically, he took out you know there, their supreme leader,
uh the you know, Ayatolahmini. He decapitated so much of
their political regime, so many IRGC commanders were killed. Look,
we we inflicted a real blow to the Iranian leadership,

(04:20):
There's no question. And I think now you know the expression,
if you go for the king, you kill the king.
You don't want to leave them wounded but now able
to rebuild, because they're going to hit us back. They will,
and they're going to hit us back very hard, whether

(04:40):
it be attacking a base, attacking our troops, somewhere in
the Middle East, secretly working on a nuclear bomb, maybe
even buying a nuclear bomb. What I'm saying is when
you start a war with Iran, you better finish it
because you're dealing with p people who a want to die,

(05:03):
they have a death cult, and B I don't think
there are any more vindictive people on earth than the Iranians.
I mean, they they live for revenge. They are consumed
with hatred and revenge. And so you know, to me,
you start a war with them, you better finish it.

(05:25):
If not, you know, it's like a snake. They're going
to keep coming and coming and coming. Mark final word
to you.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
They Well, a couple more things, Jeff, real quick. Number one,
it would be a lot easier if we knew for
a fact that Iran did not have nuclear capabilities. But
they do and they will have full capacity if we
just leave.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
And number two Trump Trump knows that.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
And that's the last that's the one thing that's stopping
him from backing out of this that he knows.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Oh, you're right, No, he knows. Tim in South Dennis,
Thanks for holding Tim, and welcome.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
Friend.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
How are you this morning?

Speaker 1 (06:12):
I'm good. How are you Tim?

Speaker 2 (06:15):
I'm okay and as always I love you in a
non sexual manner, my friend.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Thank you, Tim, Tim. Door one, door two, Door three.
Trump now is at a crossroads after what the Iranians
have now told him. What do you think he should do?

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Well? The first thing to remember, an elephant in the
room nobody talks about is we have the Carter doctor,
and which as far as I know, has never been
We've never walked away from that, which says, you know,
we'll use any and all means to keep that straight open,
including military force. And I mean, I know Jimmy Carter

(06:55):
issued that to uh more as a warning against the
Soviets after they invaded Afghanistan, but as far as I know,
it's still in effect, like the Monroe doctrin is still
in effect, and that's one hundred and fifty six years
older than the Carter doctrine. But this thing is underway.
I think what Trump needs to do, but he probably

(07:17):
should have done months ago, is address I think he
should seek a formal declaration of war layout everything these
people have done, these radicals, ever since they came back
to power in seventy eight seventy nine. And I think
he needs to tell the Western world, listen, you'd better

(07:39):
get on board because there as much a threat to
you as they are to us. And I think this
might sound crazy, but hear me out. It's like I think,
even if quietly, I think even the Russians might get
on board with that, because they have as much of
a problem with these Islamic extremists as the West does.

(08:00):
They may not talk about it much and publicly they
may denounce it. Oh you know here we you know,
the United States again going off by they have as
much problem with radical Islam as we do. I think
quietly they might provide some help, maybe intelligence or or

(08:22):
something to that effect. And I think Trump should tell
Western Europe you know, if you don't get on board
with us in this thing. Especially look what just happened
in Spain. It's like, you know what, this alliance is
over because there's no need for it anymore. I mean,
you know, what do you think?

Speaker 5 (08:42):
Well?

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Tim, I think I love your idea of going to
Congress and asking for a declaration of war. The Democrats
would be against them completely, all of them, to a
man and a woman. The question is what do you
have enough support among all Republicans? And with a razor
thin majority in the House, you've got Mitch McConnell, Lisa Murkowski,

(09:06):
Susan Collins. It'd be very tough for him, I think,
to get the votes in the Senate. And so I
think that's a reason why he hasn't done it. But
you know, Tim, look, I was just it's funny. Grace
and I were talking about this and she said, Jeff,
what happened If you look at American history, the one

(09:27):
thing we used to be known for whether you agree
with the war disagree with the war. We won our wars,
I mean from A to Z we won it. We
won the beginning, the middle, the end, It doesn't matter.
Seventeen seventy six we won it. Eighteen forty eight against Mexico,
we won it. The Civil War we won it. World
War one we won it. Okay, the Spanish American War

(09:50):
we won it. The World War one we won it.
The World War two we won it. I mean we won.
And then something changed, and you can see what changed. Now.
We had a formula that worked, and for the life
of me, I don't understand why we abandon this formula.

(10:12):
You declare a war, you go to Congress, you get
a declaration of war. Now why is that important? A.
Then the people are invested in victory. The people have
stamped this, you know, there's given their stamp of approval
to the war. So now the entire country is mobilized
for war. And then you use every economic, military, cultural, political,

(10:42):
social means tools available to achieve that victory, and you
do it quickly and decisively and without mercy. And when
you start it, you finish it, and the war ends
with terms of surrender that we give to them and

(11:02):
they sign. We don't negotiate. We're not haggling, we're not
going back and forth. We dictate you've lost. We're going
to be humane about it. We're going to be civilized
about it. Okay, we're not gonna, you know, give you
a victor's piece that you know punishes you forever, obviously,

(11:24):
but you're going to acknowledge that you lost. And these
are the conditions upon you signing the terms of surrender
to end the war. I don't understand, Tim, We've given
that up. We've given that up, Vietnam, especially Iraq, Afghanistan,

(11:45):
now this war. So we don't do a declaration of war. Hell,
we don't even do an authorization from Congress. We get nothing,
and we have an all volunteer military, so only a
small part of the count trees actually fighting, and we
get bureaucrats involved, we get politicians involved, and we never fight.

(12:09):
It's never anymore total victory, total war, and we win
no matter what it takes. Those days are gone. We
don't do total wars. We don't do total victories. We
don't insist on a total defeat. And I think that's

(12:30):
why we keep you know, we win the military battles,
as I said, but politically we bungle it at the end.
And you know, now you got the Democrats and open
fifth columnist. You know, forget sabotaging the war. Now they're
trying to put Islamis in the corridors of power. Now

(12:53):
they want Islamis in Congress, in the Senate, and soon
in the White House. So Trump is now fighting a
multi front war. And I think at this point, Tim, look, yes,
do I think other allies should help us, no question.
Do I think NATO, you know, have they been writing
our back. Yes? Do I think it's time for other

(13:16):
countries to you know, stand up and and and you know,
and and you know, you know, do their fair share. Yes,
but they're not going to. And this is what it
is now. And my advice to the president again, unless
we don't have the munitions. If we don't have the munitions,
that's a different story. But if we have the firepower,

(13:39):
and Trump publicly insists we do have the firepower, well,
mister President, I'm sorry, this is a no brainer. If
you can launch the greatest attack since World War Two,
and this will end the war once and for all,
mister president, what would Lincoln do. What would FDR do,

(14:02):
What would General Patton do, what would MacArthur do. There'd
be no question, there'd be none. Launch the attack and
break him in half. That's that's what a president would
do in the past. And then the only thing you
have ready is you put up seriously, you have a

(14:22):
piece of paper which is terms of surrender, and one
of them is you're going to allow for the flow,
the open, free flow of all oil and gas through
the Strait of hormous period, full stop. And we want

(14:43):
a different regime. We want either the king comes back,
the Shaw either he comes back, or but some kind
of you have elections. I don't care, but we're gonna
we want a pro Western or at a minimum pro American,
even a neutral government. I don't care. Don't be pro American.

(15:03):
But you can't be Islamist anymore. That's it. If you
want to be you know, Austria or Switzerland. Go ahead,
you want to be Switzerland. I don't care, but we've
got to have a regime in place there that is
no longer a threat to the region, to the Europe,
to the West, and to the world. Like enough, we've

(15:25):
been putting up with this now for forty seven years.
But here are our terms of surrender. Now. Until you're
ready to sign it, the bombing doesn't stop. So we
can either do this the hard way or the easy way.
And I would say to them, look, I suggest you
signed the terms of surrender because your people are gonna

(15:48):
rise up and they're gonna do to you what they
did the Kadafi and Libya. Okay with the stick up
that you don't where, that's what they're gonna do to you.
They're gonna tear you limb from limb. This way, you
may live now. You want to die for Allah, that's
no problem. We can arrange it. But I think it's

(16:09):
time now that we look, you know, unleash the dogs
of war. It's time to unleash the dogs of war.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
Now.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
If you're not willing to do that, then don't go
to war. Then don't go to war. And honestly, Tim
and I mean this because we have the best fighting
force in the world. Our vets are the best. I'm
telling you they're the best, and the members of our
military are the best. Nobody can beat us on the battlefield.

(16:42):
But we're constantly betrayed by politicians back home. So if
we can't if we're not willing to do that, and
then just don't go to war. But don't do what
we've been doing now for how long as I said Vietnam,
iraq Afghani understand now, I hope not. But it's starting

(17:02):
to look a little bit like it now with Iran. Okay,
I want to ask you. It is the Kooner Country
Pole Question of the Day sponsored by Marios Marios Quality Roofing,
siding and windows. Is it time for peace at any

(17:25):
price with Iran? This is now what the regime in
Iran is essentially pushing. They have come out now with
their offer saying you want the Straight of Hormuz open
and this war over. Here's what it's going to cost you.
It is going to cost you now. You have to

(17:47):
pull all US forces out of the region, lift the
entire naval blockade, lift all sanctions, pay reparations or damages
for war, and unfreeze all Iranian assets. In other words,
you're gonna have to pay, and you're gonna have to

(18:07):
vow that you will never attack us again, and send
every troop, every American soldier out of the region. So
my question to you, is it time for peace at
any price with Iran. A yes, B no at this moment, Yes,

(18:35):
is that twenty three percent? No? Is that seventy six
point seven I'm just gonna round it off seventy seven percent.
So about one fifth of this audience believes that it's
time for President Trump to accept these terms, to bring

(18:58):
this forces home and to end the war, and to
allow and reopen the strait of hormose. Iran will then
reopen the full strait of hormose gas and oil prices
will come down. And yeah, it's humiliating, but basically, I
think a good chunk of you are saying the war

(19:18):
is lost, acknowledge that it's lost, and let's focus on
the midterms and beat the Democrats before the radicals take over.
Here six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight,
I want to ask you, do you agree? Yes?

Speaker 2 (19:35):
No?

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Is it time for peace at any price with Iran?
You know me, I'm a hard no on this, but
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N E. R. Dan in New Hampshire. Thanks for holding

(20:19):
Dan and welcome.

Speaker 5 (20:22):
Thanks for taking the call.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Jeff.

Speaker 5 (20:25):
I'm a hard know on that that there's no walking
away from this. But I have an idea that no
one's mentioned. I have what I call a slice of
the pie method. And what you do is that you
basically beat the living crap out of them, You annihilate them.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
Then you form Arab Allegiance alliance amongst the butters of Iran,
and you offer them new boundaries to their countries, and
you basically absorbed Iran with this new allegiance and basically
take them out that they'll never come back because they'll.

Speaker 5 (21:08):
Be absorbed by the butters of that area.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
And then you, as the United States, brokeer a deal
that any of the natural resources in that area that
you know will purchase and buy from, you know, all
of the new nations and all of the new allegiance
that would be formed basically taken ie taken out Iran forever,

(21:33):
eliminating the iatolas.

Speaker 5 (21:36):
They'll be destroyed. You have to have some skin in
the game for for the butters, because they would you know,
they would increase their territories, they would increase their wealth,
and Iran would be absorbed.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Well then, in theory, right in theory, what's you're you're
basically saying, I mean, I don't want to put words
in your mouth, but you're basically replicating the strategy you're
applying it to Iran. I get it. But of what
we did to Nazi Germany in other words, us along
with our allies together, especially the countries you know, closer

(22:19):
to Germany that as you put it, abt Germany in
this case, abut Iran come in and slice Germany up
into pieces or into zones of occupation or whatever you
want to call it. And so I think in theory,
I think it's an excellent idea. The problem is the
regional countries. The Sunni Persian Gulf countries don't want to

(22:41):
do it. The Saudis don't want to touch Iran, the
Kuwaitis don't want to touch it, the UAE don't want
to touch it. Bahrain Qatar for many, many reasons, the
big one being that Iran is a very mountainous country.
It's a very vast country, it's the size of Western Europe.
It's a heavily Shiite country. It does have a lot

(23:04):
of other ethnic religious minorities. There are some Sunni in Iran,
but a lot of these minorities are non Muslim. They're like,
you know, Kurds or others. And so it will lead
to a massive civil war. And they're very wealthy. These
countries are very wealthy, but they don't have the manpower

(23:26):
to sustain a massive civil war. These are not countries
with the population of one hundred million the way Iran is.
So what they really ultimately want, this is what they
ultimately want. They want Trump to make a deal that
opens the Strait of Hormuse so their economy can get

(23:48):
rolling again, their oil can start flowing out again. And
then they want to undermine Iran subtly, covertly, and then
have the regime collapse from within. And they would love
to see the Shaw come back, or just a much
less revolutionary, radical, you know, dictatorial regime. That's ultimately what

(24:12):
they want. So that's why they're urging Trump play the
long game, don't play the short game. This is what
they're telling him. In other words, get some kind of
a workable deal over the Strait of Hormos and then
covertly you can wear them down. And one of the
things they're now aggressively pushing is to arm the Kurds.

(24:36):
Trump didn't like it, he was opposed to it. He
may be more open to it now. Arm the Kurds,
start a domestic insurgency within Iran, and then start arming
not just the Kurds, but then the opposition that has
really grown against this regime. And so this way, the

(24:58):
regime now is being corroded from within. It's now facing
an internal rebellion and an uprising and an insurrection that
is just going to weaken it and weaken it and
weaken it as especially if we keep the blockade and
the sanctions on them. So we're just going to keep
turning the economic screws into this regime. So they would

(25:24):
rather do, if you want to say, soft power over
hard power. So that's why they're urging Trump give negotiations
a chance. You know, Look, I don't know. I'm not
on the ground. I'll be honest, I don't I'm not
in Iran. I don't know how close the regime is

(25:45):
to collapsing. I don't know how much of a push
you need to give it for the whole thing to
finally come, you know, crashing down. All I can just
tell you is this, the terms that they have now offered,
the demands that they're making are not just unacceptable through
an insult. And when I hear the Foreign Minister come

(26:08):
out and say that he has such disrespect and loathing
for the United States that he refuses to even speak
to an American official, I'm sorry. You don't treat any
country that way. You know, we were willing to talk
to the Nazis after World War Two. We were willing.

(26:31):
I know, we wanted unconditional surrender. I get it, but
we met with them and they you know, we met
him face to face and then they signed the unconditional surrender.
When we had unconditional surrender over the Imperial Japanese, my god,
we hated them. They killed so many American soldiers, but
we still paid them the respect of seeing them face

(26:52):
to face as they signed the terms of surrender, and
in some cases we had to. You know, we worked
with them for a couple of years under MacArthur tohelp
recover and rehabilitate Japan. So what I'm saying is I've
never seen this look. I remember this was months ago, Dan,
and people may have forgotten it. It was when they

(27:14):
met began to meet for the memorandum of understanding. This
was I think in June. Okay, don't quote me, but
it was around junish and it was at least a
couple months ago. And they were in Switzerland and our
vice president on behalf of the president, he was there
negotiating on behalf of our president. JD. Vance was in
the room with Iranian negotiators led by this foreign minister, Aragachi,

(27:39):
and Aragachi shook the hands of the Swiss officials saw JD.
Vance from across the room and deliberately turned his back
on our vice president and refused to shake his hand.
Could barely even stand to look at him, couldn't stand
the sight of him. And you can see on Vance's

(28:01):
face like he was shocked. This is so undiplomatic. You
just don't do this. It's so profoundly disrespectful. So if
you guys are going to behave like a bunch of
medieval savage barbarians that you can't even sit down and negotiate, well,
then I'm sorry man, Blank you I'm sorry, Blank, you

(28:25):
I don't know if I'm too old school. I don't
know if I have a code of honor that doesn't
exist anymore and people don't care for But to me,
honor now demands upon everything else. This is how you're
going to treat us. What do you think We're one
of your women that you can put in a burka

(28:46):
and then beat like a dog. Is that what you think? Well,
I got news for you, So look then, I don't
know what's holding back to President. It's obvious he started
this war. It's obvious he thought it would end quickly.
They told him it would end quickly. It has not

(29:07):
ended quickly, and he wants out. He wants peace with honor.
He wants to reopen the Straight if possible, get a
nuclear deal. He realizes he's not going to get a
nuclear deal now. He just wants to reopen the strait
so oil and gas can come back to normal levels,

(29:27):
inflation comes down, and we can wage an election campaign
that will save our country. And my advice to the
president if we're loaded, if we're locked and loaded, then
you just take this regime out and let the consequences fall.
Whatever the consequences are. You know what it's that's how

(29:52):
the Saudis and the Kataris and the Kuwaitis are going
to have to deal with it. And my advice to
them get in on the action, and every country that
helps us, we're gonna help them. So it's time for
us to call in our chips. You know, if I'm
the president of the United States, honestly, I'd say to France,

(30:15):
how many times did we pull your chestnuts out of
the fire? You're going to send in some troops. Now
you're going to send in some aircraft carriers. You're gonna
start sweeping those mines to the Brits. I don't need
to remind you'd be speaking German if it wasn't for us.
Whatever you have, I want you to send go country
by country by country and to every Persian Gulf Ally

(30:39):
they do have strong air forces. They do. Saudi Arabia
has an impressive air force. There are planes, but it's
an impressive air force. Kuwait has an air force. Bahrain, Qatar,
Uai they have an air force. Is real. For the
life of me, I don't understand this. We've got one

(31:00):
of the best air forces in the world, one of
the most powerful militaries in the world chomping at the
bit to just hammer Iran. I'd give BB a call
and say BB, the second time will be much harder
than the first time. We're gonna hit them. It's gonna

(31:22):
be so much more brutal the second time. They thought
they took a beating the first time. Operation Epic Fury.
This is gonna be Operation Epic Annihilation. We are gonna
bomb them to the Stone Age, and we're gonna tell
them now, no quarter, no mercy. This does not stop

(31:47):
until you signed the terms of surrender period full stop.
That's it. In other words, it's time now for the
United States to save pony Up. I've done so much
for the world again and again and again. It's time
for them now to have our back. Now. If they

(32:08):
don't want to have our back, that's fine, but then
we'll remember it. In other words, you want to lose NATO,
you're gonna lose NATO. You want to lose an American
security guarantee, then fine, then don't join us. So I
really think, then it's gotten to this point where Trump

(32:32):
can't forgive my language. He can't f around anymore because
the longer he waits normally I wouldn't care. Just wait
them out. But do we have to lose? Look, I
paid almost one hundred dollars to tank up. Cost of
gas has gotten high. I'm telling you the truth. Yesterday

(32:54):
I went I tanked up. I couldn't believe it. It
was what was it, ninety three ninety four dollars. It's crazy.
I'm willing to sacrifice for the country. I don't care.
But what I can clearly see, and Trump can clearly see,
and everybody can clearly see, is you have now these

(33:17):
Muslim Marxists rising completely and taking over the Democratic Party.
They're winning primaries. They're winning them in blue states, blue districts,
blue jurisdictions. And if the midterms go sour, if they
go south, if this does, if it does end up

(33:39):
to be a blue wave, forget iron. We're not going
to be fighting an Islamic insurgency here at home, literally
in the very coreridors of power. So my advice to
the president is, if you've got to end this war,

(33:59):
to you know, to beat the Democrats in November, that
end the damn war. And the best way to end
it is to win it. Dan am I wrong final
word to you?

Speaker 4 (34:12):
I think you're one hundred percent right. We can't scowl
around with us anymore. The president's looking weak around the world.
It's inviting more opinion for him to have to deal with.
And quite honestly, if you want to be a winner
in the midterms, you've got to win this situation and

(34:33):
you can't look like a loser.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
I agree. In fact, look, let's just just play out
the scenario. He goes all in. Okay, Operation Epic Annihilation,
he goes all in that. What you know, the biggest
attacks in is World War Two. He now launches it.
And let's say it takes a month. Just they gave
him a two week they said it'd be over in

(34:58):
two weeks. Let's double it. It takes a month. Okay,
Now we're into September. He's going to get a massive
I don't do things for political calculation. I don't. It's
the right thing, you do the right thing. But I'm
just saying politically, he's going to get a massive bounce
in the polls because people are going to say, well,

(35:19):
whatever you think about the war, the guy settled the
iron question once and for all. The Mullahs are I mean,
have been beaten to a pulp, They don't pose a threat.
Their nuclear program is finished. The straight of four Moose
is open, oil gas, everything is now flowing. And he

(35:40):
has done something that presidents for the last fifty years
refused to do. He finally took out the Iranian regime,
or at least beat him so bad that they are
now a nond they're impotent. He basically shattered them, He
demolished them. So people are going to say, well, you

(36:01):
know what, he's a strong leader, and he took a
major piece off of the chessboard of one of our
major enemies. He's going to get a massive boost in
the polls. I think, there's no question, and it's going
to give him a ton of momentum as he campaigns
for candidates all around the country. So you don't do

(36:23):
it for political reasons. I want to stress that you
do it because it's the right thing for the country.
You know, if they're a threat, you get rid of
a threat. But what I'm saying is, even politically, I
think it will work out for him. So I'm with
you all the way on this, then all the way
six one seven two, six, six, sixty eight sixty eight.

(36:45):
To me, the worst of all worlds is that this
just drags on and drags on and drags on. Why
because the president rightly or wrongly, looks weak and impotent.
The regime is still there. The straight of hor Moose
is still blocked or partially blocked or whatever choked. Gas

(37:07):
is high, oil is high, which means inflation stays persistently higher,
and that starts to go into everything, food, groceries, everything
becomes higher. So now you're limping into the midterms because
the economic winds are against you. They're not at your back,
they're against you. So I'm looking at this and I'm like, well, no,

(37:32):
this is the worst of all possible worlds. Believe it
or not. Even just getting out you say, okay, I'm done.
I'm just getting out. Even that is better than this
current strategy. Why because if you get out, and I
don't like it just getting out, But if you just
get out, then you can say, Okay, we're out. The

(37:54):
war's over. We beat them militarily. Now the world has
to deal with the straight of hormus. I'm washing my
hands of the whole thing, and that's it. I'm not
going to We're not spending another dollar, another dime on
a war. So that's a chapter that I'm turning on.
I've turned the page. Even that, then there will be

(38:15):
a sense of stability. So even that I believe would
be better. But this ceasefire, non cease fire, temporary bombing,
tit for tat, couple of strikes for a couple of days.
Now they want to negotiate again. We're back. Then now
they're telling us no, we have to surrender, we have

(38:36):
to pay reparations, we have to unfreeze assets, lift the blockade.
They make these ridiculous demands.