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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Eddie and Charlestown. Thanks for holding Eddie and welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Thank you Jeff for taking my call.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
My pleasure, Eddie.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I get a question the Democrats. Why do they think
that the American citizen, legal citizen has to buy by
the laws of this country, but illegal has a free ride,
of free ticket to do whatever they want to do.
That's number one to this guy. Abide by the laws,
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it'd still be alive today. You know, it's crazy, mullin.
He should be fired because this opens the door if
I want to rob the bank, I'll go and get
an illegal immigrant to be with me. In that way,
they don't have to start me, am I right along.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
No, you're right. I mean it's this is why ICE
is so demorlized. Look many are saying, it's like they
broke our back, you know, and Eddie, I promise I'll
let you finish. But you know, you think about it.
It's a very tough job. It's a very difficult job.
People have no idea a law enforcement in general is
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a very hard job. But you look at what ICE, DHS,
Customs and Border Protection. Look, here's what they're dealing with.
Just stand back, just objectively. We have at least thirty
to forty million illegal aliens in the United States, and
I think that number is low. I'm being very conservative
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with that estimate. So we're looking at thirty to forty
million illegals. Fifteen to twenty million were just let in
by Biden. Most of the illegals, not all, but most
of the illegals were let in are criminals, many of
them hardened criminals. I mean, that's not for rhetorical effect.
(01:58):
It's a fact. You're talking about trend or Aragua MS thirteen,
gang bangers, sexual predators, child traffickers, human traffickers, drug dealers, murderers, rapists, burglars, thugs,
many of them mentally ill. Trump is not you know,
he's not joking when he says, yeah, they released a
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lot of their mental institutions and their prisons. They emptied
out their prisons and mental institutions, of course, because they
want to dump their criminal, mentally ill, poor population so
they don't have to take care of them, so they
dump them into our country. So you know, they're not
dealing with all due respect, They're not dealing with you
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or Kooner Country, or me or Sandy or Mike. You know,
we're civilized. We're a different forgive me, but we're a
different class of people. That's what they're not dealing with. Yes, officer, no, officer, No,
we don't break the law. No, I'm my apologies, officer whatever.
They're not dealing with that. As ice will tell you,
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they'll shoot you in the head with I'll blinking an eye.
You come into a house there's a nine to ten
year old child being literally raped, or you see crack
cocaine or fentanel everywhere, or guns everywhere. So what am
I supposed to think? I could be shot at any moment.
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I could have my throat slit at any moment. And
then they have to get these dangerous criminals off the streets.
That's their job. They go into a house, one of
these guys jumps out the back, he starts running around,
and they're telling us don't pursue them. But then if
that guy ends up committing a murder or a rape
or another crime, then you're blamed. But why don't you
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let him go? But you told me to let him go,
So you know the way the media is portraying them,
it's such a disgusting stereotype and caricature.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
You know, it's sort of ahm an s agent, Ah,
I got a gun. I want to shoot him in
the head execution style. Where's my clan hood?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Haha? Hile Hitler, Heile Hitler. These people are insane. Do
you think these guys want to make traffic stops and
have these guys, you know, hammer the gas pedal and
try to run them over. They'd much rather deal with
you and me. Believe me. Believe me. When a police
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officer pulls me over for speeding or for whatever, I
don't care my tail light is broken or I haven't
updated my registration on my plates. I pull over, good,
you know whatever. Good day, officer. I'm sorry. What did
I do wrong? Officer? License and registration? Yes, officer, well
I pulled you over because of Oh really, I am
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so sorry. I'm going to get that taken care of
right away, officer. That's what they want to deal with, okay,
And they usually say, okay, I'm just gonna give you
a warning. I could give you a ticket. I'm not
going to. It's gonna give you a warning, but come on,
you know, get it fixed. Thank you, sir. Have a
nice day, sir. That's not what they're dealing with can
you stop, you need to stop, get out of the car,
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you know, a few whatever, and then come sir please.
They've told him fifteen times get out of the car.
He won't get out of the car. Then he hits
the gas pet was going to run you over? Who wants? Honestly,
I don't want the job to begin with because it's
such a dangerous job and such a thankless job. But
now you have to let him go. You can't even
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pull them over. Well, you're a patriot. I'm here, you know,
for mass deportations to save our country, to get criminals
out of our country. And now you're tying both my hands.
And every time I'm forced to draw a gun, it's
my fault. So they have all the rights and I
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have none. And the media cry for them, but they
don't cry for the victims. The whole country's upside down. Okay,
let's go right back to Eddie and Charles. Then Eddie,
please finish, finish the point you wanted to make before
the break.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Okay, Jeff, thank you. I just hope the presidents listening,
because he has to fire the latest trader in this country,
that's Mullen. He has to get rid of him. He's
opening the door. That's going to be disastrous. It's disaster
that let these immigrants have a free ride. To put it,
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no pun attendant, but that's what they get. And they're
getting a free ride now is like you said earlier.
They get in their vehicle, they they're untouchable. It has
to stop. Mullen has to go, and the President has
to clean out his swamp in his cabinet and get
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rid of everybody that's disloyal and a trade to this country.
And I'm going to end it with that.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
I agree with you, Eddie, not one hundred I agree
with you one thousand percent. Look, Mullin is a disaster.
He's a rhino and he's showing his true colors. He's
got to go. This is a pathetic response to what
happened in Biddeford. Pathetic, Eddie, Thank you so much for
that call. You know, look why you know Christino. Remember
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at the time, I was like, she's doing a great
job as DHS secretary. Deportations were high, she was cracking
down on sanctuary cities and sanctuary states. She had the
backs of ICE agents. Okay, maybe she got a little
carried away. A couple times with some of the you know,
some of her language or some of the things she
(07:48):
said to the media. Okay, well, you know, you just
tell her, Hey, when you're with the media, you got
to be very disciplined and you got to make sure
you're you know, one hundred percent accurate and on message
when you say something. But that's a tweak. But overall,
the border was never more secure, and deportations were roaring.
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Now deportations are way down, and after Mullin's new order,
they're going to be even lower. To me, bring Christine onanback,
you know. I always believe this, if it ain't broke,
don't fix it. If you've got someone in a key
cabinet position and they're doing a great job, why replace
that person? Anyway, That's just me Heather speaking of Maine.
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In Maine. Thanks for holding Heather, and welcome.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Good morning, jas How are you.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I'm very good. How are you, Heather?
Speaker 4 (08:43):
I'm doing great? Thank you. I have a suggestion for Ice.
Why don't they just go into the local market baskets
around that bobby illegals that work there would be really simple, tesh.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I think, well, that's the thing, Heather. They don't want
to do that. I mean, I'm just giving you their explanation.
They say they don't want to go into homes and
they don't want to go into a place of business
because A they need a judicial warrant, that's what they say.
And B they're like, they don't want to see customers
get hurt. They don't want to see people in a
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home get hurt. So what they do is they do
what's called targeted surveillance operation. So they're basically in the
parking lot, waiting, waiting, waiting, They have a picture of
the person and until they watch until the person ends,
say they're a cashier, they end their shift, they leave,
say the market basket, and they're on their way to
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their vehicle, and that's when they usually nab them, either
on their way to the vehicle or if they think
there are too many people or too many illegals and
if they try to arrest them it could get too dangerous.
They wait for that person to get into their car
and then drive off the parking lot, off the premises,
and then they'll pull that person over, you know, do
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a traffic stop. And that's how they get the majority
of the illegal aliens. So that's why they're saying, you know,
we've been told don't go into places of work, don't
go into homes, you know, nab them in the car.
They say, it's the safest thing to do, the most
that you can isolate them, you know, you save potentially
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there's there're gonna be no collateral damage, other people won't
get hurt. And now they can't do that. Well, if
I can't get them in the home, and I can't
get them in the business or in this case, the
market basket, and now I can't get them in the car,
where where can I get them?
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Like?
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Really, where can I get them? So I'm with you, Heather,
go in if they're in a market basket, go in, handcuffs, bang,
pull them out, and then find market basket for having
hired these illegal aliens. And trust me, a couple of
twenty five five thousand dollars fines or fifty thousand or
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whatever the number is, they're going to stop hiring illegals.
And when they stop hiring illegals, maybe many illegals are
going to self deport Maine. Sorry, Heather, and Maine, what
say you?
Speaker 4 (11:17):
I agree? And then some Americans can get those jobs back.
Some kids, you know, some are off that need a job. Yes,
some you know, moms that need a job.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
That are Americans, US hard working Americans that pay taxes
that are paying for all these legals. And you know,
this is a war on our country, Jeff, and these
people need to go. They have penetrated our country, our values,
you know, everywhere I looked as another plot store. I
live in Kiddy Now I'm from Massachusetts, but you know,
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and I'm in the thick of all the liberals. I've
got Trump signs on my car and a lot of
people are constantly on my butt when I'm drying and
being very dangerous driving with me. It's crazy. So where
we live, and I was in Beneford the other day
looking at property and there's a lot of riff raff
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going on up there, a lot of homeless people, a
lot of people that look like they're not working. They're
on drugs during the middle of the day, you know.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
So it's just.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Unfortunate what's happening to this country because of this penetration
of all of these illegals. Thank you so much, Joe Biden.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Heather, before you go, since you live in Maine and
you know, Biddeford, and you know that area and you
drive through that area sometimes. What is happening in Maine?
Why has it become such a magnet for so many illegals?
And why do you have so many liberals in it?
And I'm sorry to say this because I'm just looking
at the images that you know, the video camera footage.
(12:52):
So many white liberal women, I don't I mean there's
a few men, yes, but I'd say eighty eighty five
percent to these protesters, you know, blocking traffic in Biddeford. Uh,
you know, going nuts protesting, they're white liberal women. What's
going on in Maine? Why are so many illegals flocking there?
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And why are so many white liberal women coddling and
protecting and defending them. Do you have a theory, Heather.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Well, I think it starts at the top with Mills
and the governor. Yes, and she's just off a rocker,
she has no idea what she's doing. She's okay with
men and women's sports. I think that it started as
well with uh, with Barack Obama, with the Somalis in
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the Lewiston Auburn area that you know project that he started,
and look at where it's gotten. That area of Maine.
Just a lot of fraud and you know, our taxpayer
dollar is going to support these people that aren't working
and doing fraudulent things. So I think that in the women,
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I think it's just Portland, and like where I live,
the Sea Coast, there's just a lot of liberals and
they have so much power, and Portland has too much
power for the rest of the state. I also have
property in Rangely Main and that's where all the Republicans are.
You know, it's great up there. You go up there
and it's like living in the eighties again. It's great
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death and it's just you know, guns and free rights,
free speech and none of this crap. But Portland has
too much power and it's overtaking the state, and I
think it's gross.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
You know.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
I think there's so many nice, sweet manors that have
been taken advantage of because of the governor. And you
know when you look at like these platforms that are
being run by the Chinese, they're they're taking over these
areas and it's like a mafia and you know all
these all these things need to stop.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
You are so right, it's not even funny. On every count. Uh,
there is that Chinese mafia CCP Chinese Communist Party mafia.
And you're right, they are investing heavy in these pot farms.
Why because they want to make us a nation of stoners.
They want to destroy us from within. Who's selling or
making a lot of the fentanyl to the men and
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giving it to the selling it to the Mexican drug cartels.
It's the communist Chinese. They want to destroy us from within.
And by the way, your analysis of Portland dominating the
state of Maine, you are so dead on it's not
even funny. And so as usual, Heather, thank you very
very much for that call. Very good call. Look, let
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me just throw this out there. You know me, you
know my position. I'm a pro life social conservative. I'm
a family man, okay, but I'm a you know, I'm
a social conservative all the way. But you know, if
you're talking about feminists in Portland, Maine, liberal white women,
I get it. If they're pro abortion, I get it. Okay,
it's part of the feminist ideology. All right, Doctor Grace
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is warming up in the bullpen. Phil in Missouri, thanks
for holding pail and welcome.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
Hey, Jeff, thanks for taking my call. You know, one
thing of one thing about the body cams is is okay,
I'm kind of for it. Like, let's find out what's
holding these ICE agents back from making these arrests and
getting these deportations, and then we can learn from these
and not expose what they're doing wrong, but what where
the system is failing them, and how we can make
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changes to make deportations even easier. And then, secondly, Jeff,
why are the why does why do the Republicans always buckle,
like no matter what it is, they just they just
completely surrender.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Film Well, I've been asking that question for fifty six years.
You know, I'm fifty six years old. And outside of
Ronald Reagan and outside of Donald Trump, those are the
only two presidents in my lifetime who did not buckle
to the Democrats or to the left. Almost every other Republican,
I mean, there's a few, you can count him on
one hand, but for the most part, You're right. We
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always capitulate. We always surrender. We surrender the moral ground,
we surrender the policy ground, we send her the we
surrender the political ground, we surrender the high ground. We
always do. And for the life of me, I don't
understand it. I really don't. And look, you look at
someone like Mark Wayne Mullen, and I'm not trying to
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be insulting. I'm just giving you my honest answer. Like
I'm in the confessional. Mark Wayne Mullen doesn't read. I
don't think Mark Wayne Mullen understands the issues very well.
So he's not well read. He's frankly not that smart.
I mean, he's a good businessman and he was successful
in the cage as a UFC whatever MMA fighter. He's
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a big strong man, but he doesn't have the intellectual
self confidence. You know, he's not Marco Rubio. You know,
he's not jd Vance. That's why I like jd Vance
so much. Jd Vance gives no quarter. Jd Vance argues
from first principles. Jd Vance. In fact, he frightens the left.
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That's why they fear him so much. You know, it's
not just that he won't give ground, is that intellectually
everything with him is on you know, solid logical first principles.
But Mark Wayne Mullen, he gets a call from Senator
Susan Collins and he just that's it. She called. She complains,
he sees CNN is complaining, ms NOW is complaining people
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on Fox are complaining, and so he just caves and capitulates,
and he thinks by caving capitulating that the Democrats will
like him. What he doesn't understand is they just sense
blood and they push for more. And already Phil they're
pushing abolishing ICE. And you know, it's not just that
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they want to reopen the border. That would be horrible
enough as it is, but this is how reckless they are.
When they say abolish ICE, they don't just mean let
every illegal come in or don't deport a single illegal
Ice and customs in border protection. That's drug trafficking, all
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the fentanyl that's killing seventy thousand Americans every year, that's
human trafficking, that's child sex trafficking, that's gun running. You're
just going to allow all of that to just unimpeded
pour into our country. That's what Mamdonnie's calling for. That's
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what Bernie Elizabeth Warren aoc I could run down the
whole list, abolish ice, all of it. So what they're
really saying is let criminals, let drugs, let human traffickers,
let the cartels invade our country with no opposition whatsoever.
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It's suicide if we want to become Venezuela. This is
the way to do it. Overnight, we will become a
third world crime ridden country. To say abolish ice is
one of the most insane dangerous things you can say.
It's like saying abolish water, or abolish food, or abolish
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all police, which, by the way, they say, or abolish
all prisons, which is again insane. So what, We're just
gonna have murderers and rapists what running amuck?
Speaker 6 (20:51):
Running?
Speaker 5 (20:52):
What?
Speaker 1 (20:52):
That's Haiti? By the way, Haiti, there's basically no police
and no prisons and any weapon you want, triald, trafficking, sex, trafficking, drugs, everything,
anything pours into that island. And what you get our
warlords and you get anarchy and basically a NonStop civil war.
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That's that's what these idiots are pushing for. And Mark
Wayne Mullen can't push back. I long for the days
of Christineome. But that's our problem. Phil. You know, we're
right on every issue, I'm telling you, But what's the
point of being right if you don't have the courage
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to fight back? You know, Aristotle famously said that the
greatest virtue it's not intelligence, it's not strength, it's not
charisma like her. It's not even virtue, he goes, because
all of those qualities, great as they are, are meaningless
if you don't have courage. The greatest virtue, the greatest
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thing to have is courage. You know, you could be brilliant,
but if you don't have the courage of your convictions,
you're useless. You can be the strongest, most powerful person
on earth, but if you don't have courage, forget it.
You're not gonna win a fight. I could go on
and on and on. Courage is the greatest virtue outside
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of faith, obviously faith in God. But you know, but
let that go. It's courage. We don't have it. I'm
not saying you, or me or this audience, but I'm
saying Republicans, for the most part, don't have it. The
left does tarn the front lines. Man, they're blocking traffic.
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They don't care if they get shot, they get shot,
if they get arrested, they get arrested, they don't care.
They loot, they riot, they plundered, They don't care our side.
Mark Wayne Mullins in Washington, and he's hiding under his desk,
and he's what six foot five, six foot six, almost
three hundred pounds of alid muscle, and he's petrified of
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the anti Ice mob. So if he's scared, I mean,
but little Christine ome a woman, you know what, five
foot three, five foot four, maybe one hundred and ten
hundred and twenty pounds. She wasn't afraid. So that's why
I said at the time, I said, why are you getting.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Rid of her?
Speaker 1 (23:22):
She's great, she's got courage, she's got guts. Whatever problems
you can tweak that you can, you know, the rough
edges you can work on that, that's no problem. But
what you have in your gut, what you have in
your heart, that you can't teach phil final word to you.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Kid.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
They just seem to miss an opportunity, like why not
put the Democrats back on their heels and take control
of the narrative and say, okay, if it's bodycams you
want sure, I agree, you want transparency. Let's put body
cameras on teachers as well. Well, we'll have a bipartisan bill.
Ice has cameras, teachers have cameras. Let's expose what they're
saying in the classrooms, and you know, we'll put the
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curriculums online and see what's going on. In addition to that,
we'll find out what's going on with ice. That would
be mine.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I agree that, I agree Phil. What I would also
say is, and I know Christy Nolan would say this,
you don't have a right to hit law enforcement with
a car like Mark Wayne Mullin should have said that
to Susan Collins. Collins on the phone and then said
it publicly. Well, no, I'm not going to have vehicles
not pulled over because there happens to be an illegal alien.
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What are you crazy? No, tell the people of Maine,
tell those crazy left wing protesters, and tell those illegal
aliens that your governor has flooded with all these illegals.
You get into a vehicle and you try to run
over law enforcement, I don't care state, local, federal, ice,
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it doesn't matter. You use a car as a weapon.
They have the right to shoot back. You will be
shot dead. They have the right to defend themselves, since
when they're hitting someone with the car become a right
for illegal aliens like well, the media is gonna scream,
let him scream. You know, Janet Mills is gonna go crazy,
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let him let her, let her go crazy. I don't
care she's a fruitcake. She's a not bad to begin with.
What I'm saying is, forgive me. You got to have
with the Spanish calcahonus. You got to have balls. And
the thing I love about Trump, he's got balls. And
the thing I loved about Reagan he had balls. Mark
Wayne Mullen, Yeah, you can probably bench press four hundred pounds,
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but I'm telling you, the guy has no balls. Christine
Olme had more balls than Mark Wayne Mullen. That's it.
I mean, Phil, it's really that easy. Everybody wears body cameras.
You want to play, let's play, but no illegals do not.
You don't have the right to be in this country,
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and you serve don't have the right to hit people
with a car. So if you're going to hit an
officer with a car, they're going to shoot you in
the head. It's the same thing for every American citizen.
Coup pulls you over, don't run them over, because if
you run them over, he's gonna shoot you or she's
gonna shoot you. Because they have the right to defend themselves.
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You have to obey the police. That's what separates us
from savagery or a civilized country. You have to obey
police officers. It's the law. But illegals don't follow the law.
They never follow the law. So why doesn't the head
of the Department of Homeland Security, the name says itself,
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have the guts to go on television and say, illegal aliens.
When you're pulled over, you must obey the law. You
must obey the police. And if you hit that gas pedal,
you're put your life in your own hands. Don't protest,
don't complain, don't block streets, don't start going calling us
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executioners and murderers. You try to run over a police officer,
you're gonna get shot. It's really that simple. It happens
in every country. It's called reality. Try to live in it.
Phil Dynamite call okay, joining us now as she always
does at this time, Doctor Grace putting liberals in their place,
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Grace Vuoto And yes, she married down. I'm married up.
She's my better half, Grace. I gotta ask you. CNN
has run wild with this story, ms now all the
major networks. It's leading every major liberal newspaper in the country.
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What is going on in Biddeford, Maine, And that this
twenty six year old Columbian illegal alien shot by ICE
agents after he tried to run them over. And now
DHS Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen has given an order to
all ICE agents you cannot pull a car or vehicle
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over if there is an illegal alien inside for fear
that a traffic stop could escalate into a fatal shooting.
Is this a surrender to the anti ICE protesters and
the anti ICE radical left? What say you, Jeff?
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Indeed it is, and it is his job to get
the truth out, and the truth of the matter is
that less than zero points zero zero two percent of
all deportations result in a death. Basically, what he has
to do is get out there and defend the very
good work that is being done right now. President Trump,
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this is his signature issue, is on track to have
the highest deportations ever in American history. Still Obama holds
that record for a single year. But right now, if
we just keep pace with what this president has put
us on, he will break that record. And what does
that tell us overall? It goes very well. And it's
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the job of Mark Mullen to explain that, yes, when
you have that many taking place, there is going to
be sometimes where something doesn't go right, and in those cases,
they're going to investigate and they're going to hold accountable
whoever miss you know, whoever did a misdeed. But the
overall picture is what he needs to paint. And overall,
(29:42):
Jeff listen to, this crime has decreased nationwide by nine
point three percent, meaning overall things are much better, and
that's the sharpest decrease since nineteen thirty seven. So he's
got to go out there with these statistics that say,
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this is a president that excels at law enforcement, and
we're proud of his record, and we're going to fix
the areas where there's mistakes, but overall, we're winning the
war against crime.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Grace when they do a targeted surveillance operation like they
did in Biddeford, Maine as an example, and they see
an illegal alien twenty six years old, he's got a wife,
three year old daughter from Colombia, and he gets into
his car and they wait for him to leave, you know,
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back up and get all you know, start driving, and
then they pull him over. It's a traffic stop and
they tell him to get out, and he refuses to
get out, and they give him multiple warnings and he
still refuses, and then he starts to hit the gas
pedal and he's about to run over if at least one,
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if not several ice agents, do they have the right
to shoot in self defense or are they entitled too?
Is he entitled to run them over? And is he
entitled to just get away simply because he's an I
legal alien?
Speaker 6 (31:14):
Well check.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Honestly, you're hitting on the key point here and that
do law enforcement officials have authority? Yes or no? And
of course the answer is yes. The minute something comes
out of their mouths, you do what they say. This
is common sense one oh one. And if you don't
do what they say, all bets are off. But that's
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for any encounter with law enforcement. Doesn't necessarily mean if
you ran the statistics on other encounters with law enforcement.
Anybody who doesn't obey the law, and anybody who violates
a lawful command puts their life in jeopardy. So you
know what Mark Mallin has to do is it's got
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to go out there and he's got to make the
case for the law, as the President does all the time.
And so if somebody is going to weaponize their vehicle
at that point, they're the ones who'll put their life
in danger full stop.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
What do you think is going to happen now, because basically,
as I said earlier, if they're not going to pull
them over, and they've been given orders not to pull
them over, if an illegal is in the car, no
matter how dangerous they are or how wanted they are. Well,
ICE agents are now saying we won't be able to
make deportations. I mean, we'll make a few here or
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a few there if they give it to us in
a courthouse or transfer from a prison. But the overwhelming
majority of our deportations comes and you mentioned how the
numbers have been very good so far this year. They
come from the fact that we pull these illegal aliens
over on the streets in their cars. Well, now it
seems they've almost extended amnesty or sanctuary to the vehicle
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that if an illegal is in a vehicle, whether it
be a van, a jeep, an suv, a car, you
can't touch them. And so if these illegals are smart,
all they should do is just sleep in their cars,
stay in their vehicles, and they basically have immunity. It's
like a form of forget sanctuary city or sanctuary state.
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Now it's a sanctuary vehicle. So ICE is saying in private,
all these agents, many of them, say we're gonna quit
because you're gonna see deportation numbers plummet. They're going to
reduce dramatically because you've tied our hands and we can't
do our job. Are the ICE agents that are fuming?
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Are they right?
Speaker 5 (33:42):
Right? And this is really demoralizing. I mean, I agree
with you that Christie Noman was excellent because she always
stood by, she had the back of ICE enforcement agents.
This is just demoralizing. The vast majority are doing a
phenomenal job, and they've been such a drop an overall crime,
a drop of eighteen percent in murder, eighteen point five
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percent in robbery, seven point two percent in aggravated assault.
These are records to be proud of, and ICE agents
should be glorified, celebrated as our heroes, and instead they're
always being villainized. So it's really demoralizing to them. They
can't do their jobs and they're not celebrated as they
should be. And it's not just that illegals will sleep
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in their cars. You also have another problem. You have
seventy one thousand now in detention centers, so the courts
try to get the criminals to stay in this country
or the illegals, they help them stay as long as possible.
Now you have this directive which helps them. And the
upshot is that ICE agents feel, what's the point we
can't do our job again. Our hands are being tied.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Grace. You know, our nephew Andrew is in customs and
border protection and apparently he's going to work we thought
in the Tucson sector, but he's actually gonna work in
the San Diego sector. Anyway, long story short, he's in
customs in border protection. But if he came to you,
or he came to me, or he came to us,
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and you know how often he calls and he likes
to talk to us and get our opinion on things.
He calls his aunt Grace, he calls his uncle Jeff,
and he says, you know, I'm thinking of transferring. I
want to go from Customs in border protection. I want
to join ICE. I want to go into these sanctuary cities,
go after these hardened, dangerous criminal illegal aliens. And I
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want to deport him for the good of the country.
Because you know what a patriot Andrew is. What would
you tell him.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
I would say, you know, when Christie Noolman was leading it,
go for it right now, just wait and see, because
the President has to overrule this directive, and he has
to send a signal that we're not going to be
appeasing illegal aliens. Appeasement doesn't work. What happened in Minnesota,
that was a policy of appeasement. It doesn't stop the agitators.
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They keep wanting more and more, and their ultimate goal
is the total abolition of ICE. That's what they really want.
They don't want reform. They don't want this remarkable pace
of deportations to continue. They don't want this remarkable pace
of viobent crime to drop because that shows that the
Republicans are very capable on this issue. So they just
want to muddy the waters and encourage or try to
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gin up public discontent. But the truth of the matter
is that we cannot appease the left on this issue.
And Christinohlman was doing a phenomenal job standing her ground
and getting the information out about the good work that
the vast majority of our ICE agents do. So Jeff
I would say to him at this point, no, stay
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put and wait and see, because we've got to make
sure that the president corrects the issue and continues to
have the really tough approach that is bearing such success overall.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Yeah, you nailed it. You're absolutely nailed it as usual.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
And that's exactly what I would tell Andrew. I'd say, Andrew,
if your bosses don't have your back and they want
to put your body on the line, as these ICE
agents do,
Eddie and Charlestown. Thanks for holding Eddie and welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Thank you Jeff for taking my call.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
My pleasure, Eddie.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I get a question the Democrats. Why do they think
that the American citizen, legal citizen has to buy by
the laws of this country, but illegal has a free ride,
of free ticket to do whatever they want to do.
That's number one to this guy. Abide by the laws,
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it'd still be alive today. You know, it's crazy, mullin.
He should be fired because this opens the door if
I want to rob the bank, I'll go and get
an illegal immigrant to be with me. In that way,
they don't have to start me, am I right along.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
No, you're right. I mean it's this is why ICE
is so demorlized. Look many are saying, it's like they
broke our back, you know, and Eddie, I promise I'll
let you finish. But you know, you think about it.
It's a very tough job. It's a very difficult job.
People have no idea a law enforcement in general is
(01:17):
a very hard job. But you look at what ICE, DHS,
Customs and Border Protection. Look, here's what they're dealing with.
Just stand back, just objectively. We have at least thirty
to forty million illegal aliens in the United States, and
I think that number is low. I'm being very conservative
(01:37):
with that estimate. So we're looking at thirty to forty
million illegals. Fifteen to twenty million were just let in
by Biden. Most of the illegals, not all, but most
of the illegals were let in are criminals, many of
them hardened criminals. I mean, that's not for rhetorical effect.
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It's a fact. You're talking about trend or Aragua MS thirteen,
gang bangers, sexual predators, child traffickers, human traffickers, drug dealers, murderers, rapists, burglars, thugs,
many of them mentally ill. Trump is not you know,
he's not joking when he says, yeah, they released a
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lot of their mental institutions and their prisons. They emptied
out their prisons and mental institutions, of course, because they
want to dump their criminal, mentally ill, poor population so
they don't have to take care of them, so they
dump them into our country. So you know, they're not
dealing with all due respect, They're not dealing with you
(02:42):
or Kooner Country, or me or Sandy or Mike. You know,
we're civilized. We're a different forgive me, but we're a
different class of people. That's what they're not dealing with. Yes, officer, no, officer, No,
we don't break the law. No, I'm my apologies, officer whatever.
They're not dealing with that. As ice will tell you,
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they'll shoot you in the head with I'll blinking an eye.
You come into a house there's a nine to ten
year old child being literally raped, or you see crack
cocaine or fentanel everywhere, or guns everywhere. So what am
I supposed to think? I could be shot at any moment.
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I could have my throat slit at any moment. And
then they have to get these dangerous criminals off the streets.
That's their job. They go into a house, one of
these guys jumps out the back, he starts running around,
and they're telling us don't pursue them. But then if
that guy ends up committing a murder or a rape
or another crime, then you're blamed. But why don't you
(03:47):
let him go? But you told me to let him go,
So you know the way the media is portraying them,
it's such a disgusting stereotype and caricature.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
You know, it's sort of ahm an s agent, Ah,
I got a gun. I want to shoot him in
the head execution style. Where's my clan hood?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Haha? Hile Hitler, Heile Hitler. These people are insane. Do
you think these guys want to make traffic stops and
have these guys, you know, hammer the gas pedal and
try to run them over. They'd much rather deal with
you and me. Believe me. Believe me. When a police
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officer pulls me over for speeding or for whatever, I
don't care my tail light is broken or I haven't
updated my registration on my plates. I pull over, good,
you know whatever. Good day, officer. I'm sorry. What did
I do wrong? Officer? License and registration? Yes, officer, well
I pulled you over because of Oh really, I am
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so sorry. I'm going to get that taken care of
right away, officer. That's what they want to deal with, okay,
And they usually say, okay, I'm just gonna give you
a warning. I could give you a ticket. I'm not
going to. It's gonna give you a warning, but come on,
you know, get it fixed. Thank you, sir. Have a
nice day, sir. That's not what they're dealing with can
you stop, you need to stop, get out of the car,
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you know, a few whatever, and then come sir please.
They've told him fifteen times get out of the car.
He won't get out of the car. Then he hits
the gas pet was going to run you over? Who wants? Honestly,
I don't want the job to begin with because it's
such a dangerous job and such a thankless job. But
now you have to let him go. You can't even
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pull them over. Well, you're a patriot. I'm here, you know,
for mass deportations to save our country, to get criminals
out of our country. And now you're tying both my hands.
And every time I'm forced to draw a gun, it's
my fault. So they have all the rights and I
(05:57):
have none. And the media cry for them, but they
don't cry for the victims. The whole country's upside down. Okay,
let's go right back to Eddie and Charles. Then Eddie,
please finish, finish the point you wanted to make before
the break.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Okay, Jeff, thank you. I just hope the presidents listening,
because he has to fire the latest trader in this country,
that's Mullen. He has to get rid of him. He's
opening the door. That's going to be disastrous. It's disaster
that let these immigrants have a free ride. To put it,
(06:36):
no pun attendant, but that's what they get. And they're
getting a free ride now is like you said earlier.
They get in their vehicle, they they're untouchable. It has
to stop. Mullen has to go, and the President has
to clean out his swamp in his cabinet and get
(06:57):
rid of everybody that's disloyal and a trade to this country.
And I'm going to end it with that.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
I agree with you, Eddie, not one hundred I agree
with you one thousand percent. Look, Mullin is a disaster.
He's a rhino and he's showing his true colors. He's
got to go. This is a pathetic response to what
happened in Biddeford. Pathetic, Eddie, Thank you so much for
that call. You know, look why you know Christino. Remember
(07:26):
at the time, I was like, she's doing a great
job as DHS secretary. Deportations were high, she was cracking
down on sanctuary cities and sanctuary states. She had the
backs of ICE agents. Okay, maybe she got a little
carried away. A couple times with some of the you know,
some of her language or some of the things she
(07:48):
said to the media. Okay, well, you know, you just
tell her, Hey, when you're with the media, you got
to be very disciplined and you got to make sure
you're you know, one hundred percent accurate and on message
when you say something. But that's a tweak. But overall,
the border was never more secure, and deportations were roaring.
(08:09):
Now deportations are way down, and after Mullin's new order,
they're going to be even lower. To me, bring Christine onanback,
you know. I always believe this, if it ain't broke,
don't fix it. If you've got someone in a key
cabinet position and they're doing a great job, why replace
that person? Anyway, That's just me Heather speaking of Maine.
(08:34):
In Maine. Thanks for holding Heather, and welcome.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Good morning, jas How are you.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
I'm very good. How are you, Heather?
Speaker 4 (08:43):
I'm doing great? Thank you. I have a suggestion for Ice.
Why don't they just go into the local market baskets
around that bobby illegals that work there would be really simple, tesh.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I think, well, that's the thing, Heather. They don't want
to do that. I mean, I'm just giving you their explanation.
They say they don't want to go into homes and
they don't want to go into a place of business
because A they need a judicial warrant, that's what they say.
And B they're like, they don't want to see customers
get hurt. They don't want to see people in a
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home get hurt. So what they do is they do
what's called targeted surveillance operation. So they're basically in the
parking lot, waiting, waiting, waiting, They have a picture of
the person and until they watch until the person ends,
say they're a cashier, they end their shift, they leave,
say the market basket, and they're on their way to
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their vehicle, and that's when they usually nab them, either
on their way to the vehicle or if they think
there are too many people or too many illegals and
if they try to arrest them it could get too dangerous.
They wait for that person to get into their car
and then drive off the parking lot, off the premises,
and then they'll pull that person over, you know, do
(10:02):
a traffic stop. And that's how they get the majority
of the illegal aliens. So that's why they're saying, you know,
we've been told don't go into places of work, don't
go into homes, you know, nab them in the car.
They say, it's the safest thing to do, the most
that you can isolate them, you know, you save potentially
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there's there're gonna be no collateral damage, other people won't
get hurt. And now they can't do that. Well, if
I can't get them in the home, and I can't
get them in the business or in this case, the
market basket, and now I can't get them in the car,
where where can I get them?
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Like?
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Really, where can I get them? So I'm with you, Heather,
go in if they're in a market basket, go in, handcuffs, bang,
pull them out, and then find market basket for having
hired these illegal aliens. And trust me, a couple of
twenty five five thousand dollars fines or fifty thousand or
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whatever the number is, they're going to stop hiring illegals.
And when they stop hiring illegals, maybe many illegals are
going to self deport Maine. Sorry, Heather, and Maine, what
say you?
Speaker 4 (11:17):
I agree? And then some Americans can get those jobs back.
Some kids, you know, some are off that need a job. Yes,
some you know, moms that need a job.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
That are Americans, US hard working Americans that pay taxes
that are paying for all these legals. And you know,
this is a war on our country, Jeff, and these
people need to go. They have penetrated our country, our values,
you know, everywhere I looked as another plot store. I
live in Kiddy Now I'm from Massachusetts, but you know,
(11:51):
and I'm in the thick of all the liberals. I've
got Trump signs on my car and a lot of
people are constantly on my butt when I'm drying and
being very dangerous driving with me. It's crazy. So where
we live, and I was in Beneford the other day
looking at property and there's a lot of riff raff
(12:11):
going on up there, a lot of homeless people, a
lot of people that look like they're not working. They're
on drugs during the middle of the day, you know.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
So it's just.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Unfortunate what's happening to this country because of this penetration
of all of these illegals. Thank you so much, Joe Biden.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Heather, before you go, since you live in Maine and
you know, Biddeford, and you know that area and you
drive through that area sometimes. What is happening in Maine?
Why has it become such a magnet for so many illegals?
And why do you have so many liberals in it?
And I'm sorry to say this because I'm just looking
at the images that you know, the video camera footage.
(12:52):
So many white liberal women, I don't I mean there's
a few men, yes, but I'd say eighty eighty five
percent to these protesters, you know, blocking traffic in Biddeford. Uh,
you know, going nuts protesting, they're white liberal women. What's
going on in Maine? Why are so many illegals flocking there?
(13:17):
And why are so many white liberal women coddling and
protecting and defending them. Do you have a theory, Heather.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Well, I think it starts at the top with Mills
and the governor. Yes, and she's just off a rocker,
she has no idea what she's doing. She's okay with
men and women's sports. I think that it started as
well with uh, with Barack Obama, with the Somalis in
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the Lewiston Auburn area that you know project that he started,
and look at where it's gotten. That area of Maine.
Just a lot of fraud and you know, our taxpayer
dollar is going to support these people that aren't working
and doing fraudulent things. So I think that in the women,
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I think it's just Portland, and like where I live,
the Sea Coast, there's just a lot of liberals and
they have so much power, and Portland has too much
power for the rest of the state. I also have
property in Rangely Main and that's where all the Republicans are.
You know, it's great up there. You go up there
and it's like living in the eighties again. It's great
(14:31):
death and it's just you know, guns and free rights,
free speech and none of this crap. But Portland has
too much power and it's overtaking the state, and I
think it's gross.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
You know.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
I think there's so many nice, sweet manors that have
been taken advantage of because of the governor. And you
know when you look at like these platforms that are
being run by the Chinese, they're they're taking over these
areas and it's like a mafia and you know all
these all these things need to stop.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
You are so right, it's not even funny. On every count. Uh,
there is that Chinese mafia CCP Chinese Communist Party mafia.
And you're right, they are investing heavy in these pot farms.
Why because they want to make us a nation of stoners.
They want to destroy us from within. Who's selling or
making a lot of the fentanyl to the men and
(15:33):
giving it to the selling it to the Mexican drug cartels.
It's the communist Chinese. They want to destroy us from within.
And by the way, your analysis of Portland dominating the
state of Maine, you are so dead on it's not
even funny. And so as usual, Heather, thank you very
very much for that call. Very good call. Look, let
(15:53):
me just throw this out there. You know me, you
know my position. I'm a pro life social conservative. I'm
a family man, okay, but I'm a you know, I'm
a social conservative all the way. But you know, if
you're talking about feminists in Portland, Maine, liberal white women,
I get it. If they're pro abortion, I get it. Okay,
it's part of the feminist ideology. All right, Doctor Grace
(16:16):
is warming up in the bullpen. Phil in Missouri, thanks
for holding pail and welcome.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
Hey, Jeff, thanks for taking my call. You know, one
thing of one thing about the body cams is is okay,
I'm kind of for it. Like, let's find out what's
holding these ICE agents back from making these arrests and
getting these deportations, and then we can learn from these
and not expose what they're doing wrong, but what where
the system is failing them, and how we can make
(16:45):
changes to make deportations even easier. And then, secondly, Jeff,
why are the why does why do the Republicans always buckle,
like no matter what it is, they just they just
completely surrender.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Film Well, I've been asking that question for fifty six years.
You know, I'm fifty six years old. And outside of
Ronald Reagan and outside of Donald Trump, those are the
only two presidents in my lifetime who did not buckle
to the Democrats or to the left. Almost every other Republican,
I mean, there's a few, you can count him on
one hand, but for the most part, You're right. We
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always capitulate. We always surrender. We surrender the moral ground,
we surrender the policy ground, we send her the we
surrender the political ground, we surrender the high ground. We
always do. And for the life of me, I don't
understand it. I really don't. And look, you look at
someone like Mark Wayne Mullen, and I'm not trying to
(17:44):
be insulting. I'm just giving you my honest answer. Like
I'm in the confessional. Mark Wayne Mullen doesn't read. I
don't think Mark Wayne Mullen understands the issues very well.
So he's not well read. He's frankly not that smart.
I mean, he's a good businessman and he was successful
in the cage as a UFC whatever MMA fighter. He's
(18:06):
a big strong man, but he doesn't have the intellectual
self confidence. You know, he's not Marco Rubio. You know,
he's not jd Vance. That's why I like jd Vance
so much. Jd Vance gives no quarter. Jd Vance argues
from first principles. Jd Vance. In fact, he frightens the left.
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That's why they fear him so much. You know, it's
not just that he won't give ground, is that intellectually
everything with him is on you know, solid logical first principles.
But Mark Wayne Mullen, he gets a call from Senator
Susan Collins and he just that's it. She called. She complains,
he sees CNN is complaining, ms NOW is complaining people
(18:52):
on Fox are complaining, and so he just caves and capitulates,
and he thinks by caving capitulating that the Democrats will
like him. What he doesn't understand is they just sense
blood and they push for more. And already Phil they're
pushing abolishing ICE. And you know, it's not just that
(19:13):
they want to reopen the border. That would be horrible
enough as it is, but this is how reckless they are.
When they say abolish ICE, they don't just mean let
every illegal come in or don't deport a single illegal
Ice and customs in border protection. That's drug trafficking, all
(19:34):
the fentanyl that's killing seventy thousand Americans every year, that's
human trafficking, that's child sex trafficking, that's gun running. You're
just going to allow all of that to just unimpeded
pour into our country. That's what Mamdonnie's calling for. That's
(19:56):
what Bernie Elizabeth Warren aoc I could run down the
whole list, abolish ice, all of it. So what they're
really saying is let criminals, let drugs, let human traffickers,
let the cartels invade our country with no opposition whatsoever.
(20:17):
It's suicide if we want to become Venezuela. This is
the way to do it. Overnight, we will become a
third world crime ridden country. To say abolish ice is
one of the most insane dangerous things you can say.
It's like saying abolish water, or abolish food, or abolish
(20:40):
all police, which, by the way, they say, or abolish
all prisons, which is again insane. So what, We're just
gonna have murderers and rapists what running amuck?
Speaker 6 (20:51):
Running?
Speaker 5 (20:52):
What?
Speaker 1 (20:52):
That's Haiti? By the way, Haiti, there's basically no police
and no prisons and any weapon you want, triald, trafficking, sex, trafficking, drugs, everything,
anything pours into that island. And what you get our
warlords and you get anarchy and basically a NonStop civil war.
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That's that's what these idiots are pushing for. And Mark
Wayne Mullen can't push back. I long for the days
of Christineome. But that's our problem. Phil. You know, we're
right on every issue, I'm telling you, But what's the
point of being right if you don't have the courage
(21:34):
to fight back? You know, Aristotle famously said that the
greatest virtue it's not intelligence, it's not strength, it's not
charisma like her. It's not even virtue, he goes, because
all of those qualities, great as they are, are meaningless
if you don't have courage. The greatest virtue, the greatest
(21:58):
thing to have is courage. You know, you could be brilliant,
but if you don't have the courage of your convictions,
you're useless. You can be the strongest, most powerful person
on earth, but if you don't have courage, forget it.
You're not gonna win a fight. I could go on
and on and on. Courage is the greatest virtue outside
(22:18):
of faith, obviously faith in God. But you know, but
let that go. It's courage. We don't have it. I'm
not saying you, or me or this audience, but I'm
saying Republicans, for the most part, don't have it. The
left does tarn the front lines. Man, they're blocking traffic.
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They don't care if they get shot, they get shot,
if they get arrested, they get arrested, they don't care.
They loot, they riot, they plundered, They don't care our side.
Mark Wayne Mullins in Washington, and he's hiding under his desk,
and he's what six foot five, six foot six, almost
three hundred pounds of alid muscle, and he's petrified of
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the anti Ice mob. So if he's scared, I mean,
but little Christine ome a woman, you know what, five
foot three, five foot four, maybe one hundred and ten
hundred and twenty pounds. She wasn't afraid. So that's why
I said at the time, I said, why are you getting.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Rid of her?
Speaker 1 (23:22):
She's great, she's got courage, she's got guts. Whatever problems
you can tweak that you can, you know, the rough
edges you can work on that, that's no problem. But
what you have in your gut, what you have in
your heart, that you can't teach phil final word to you.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Kid.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
They just seem to miss an opportunity, like why not
put the Democrats back on their heels and take control
of the narrative and say, okay, if it's bodycams you
want sure, I agree, you want transparency. Let's put body
cameras on teachers as well. Well, we'll have a bipartisan bill.
Ice has cameras, teachers have cameras. Let's expose what they're
saying in the classrooms, and you know, we'll put the
(24:04):
curriculums online and see what's going on. In addition to that,
we'll find out what's going on with ice. That would
be mine.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I agree that, I agree Phil. What I would also
say is, and I know Christy Nolan would say this,
you don't have a right to hit law enforcement with
a car like Mark Wayne Mullin should have said that
to Susan Collins. Collins on the phone and then said
it publicly. Well, no, I'm not going to have vehicles
not pulled over because there happens to be an illegal alien.
(24:31):
What are you crazy? No, tell the people of Maine,
tell those crazy left wing protesters, and tell those illegal
aliens that your governor has flooded with all these illegals.
You get into a vehicle and you try to run
over law enforcement, I don't care state, local, federal, ice,
(24:51):
it doesn't matter. You use a car as a weapon.
They have the right to shoot back. You will be
shot dead. They have the right to defend themselves, since
when they're hitting someone with the car become a right
for illegal aliens like well, the media is gonna scream,
let him scream. You know, Janet Mills is gonna go crazy,
(25:15):
let him let her, let her go crazy. I don't
care she's a fruitcake. She's a not bad to begin with.
What I'm saying is, forgive me. You got to have
with the Spanish calcahonus. You got to have balls. And
the thing I love about Trump, he's got balls. And
the thing I loved about Reagan he had balls. Mark
Wayne Mullen, Yeah, you can probably bench press four hundred pounds,
(25:38):
but I'm telling you, the guy has no balls. Christine
Olme had more balls than Mark Wayne Mullen. That's it.
I mean, Phil, it's really that easy. Everybody wears body cameras.
You want to play, let's play, but no illegals do not.
You don't have the right to be in this country,
(25:59):
and you serve don't have the right to hit people
with a car. So if you're going to hit an
officer with a car, they're going to shoot you in
the head. It's the same thing for every American citizen.
Coup pulls you over, don't run them over, because if
you run them over, he's gonna shoot you or she's
gonna shoot you. Because they have the right to defend themselves.
(26:20):
You have to obey the police. That's what separates us
from savagery or a civilized country. You have to obey
police officers. It's the law. But illegals don't follow the law.
They never follow the law. So why doesn't the head
of the Department of Homeland Security, the name says itself,
(26:44):
have the guts to go on television and say, illegal aliens.
When you're pulled over, you must obey the law. You
must obey the police. And if you hit that gas pedal,
you're put your life in your own hands. Don't protest,
don't complain, don't block streets, don't start going calling us
(27:07):
executioners and murderers. You try to run over a police officer,
you're gonna get shot. It's really that simple. It happens
in every country. It's called reality. Try to live in it.
Phil Dynamite call okay, joining us now as she always
does at this time, Doctor Grace putting liberals in their place,
(27:31):
Grace Vuoto And yes, she married down. I'm married up.
She's my better half, Grace. I gotta ask you. CNN
has run wild with this story, ms now all the
major networks. It's leading every major liberal newspaper in the country.
(27:53):
What is going on in Biddeford, Maine, And that this
twenty six year old Columbian illegal alien shot by ICE
agents after he tried to run them over. And now
DHS Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen has given an order to
all ICE agents you cannot pull a car or vehicle
(28:15):
over if there is an illegal alien inside for fear
that a traffic stop could escalate into a fatal shooting.
Is this a surrender to the anti ICE protesters and
the anti ICE radical left? What say you, Jeff?
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Indeed it is, and it is his job to get
the truth out, and the truth of the matter is
that less than zero points zero zero two percent of
all deportations result in a death. Basically, what he has
to do is get out there and defend the very
good work that is being done right now. President Trump,
(28:57):
this is his signature issue, is on track to have
the highest deportations ever in American history. Still Obama holds
that record for a single year. But right now, if
we just keep pace with what this president has put
us on, he will break that record. And what does
that tell us overall? It goes very well. And it's
(29:19):
the job of Mark Mullen to explain that, yes, when
you have that many taking place, there is going to
be sometimes where something doesn't go right, and in those cases,
they're going to investigate and they're going to hold accountable
whoever miss you know, whoever did a misdeed. But the
overall picture is what he needs to paint. And overall,
(29:42):
Jeff listen to, this crime has decreased nationwide by nine
point three percent, meaning overall things are much better, and
that's the sharpest decrease since nineteen thirty seven. So he's
got to go out there with these statistics that say,
(30:03):
this is a president that excels at law enforcement, and
we're proud of his record, and we're going to fix
the areas where there's mistakes, but overall, we're winning the
war against crime.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Grace when they do a targeted surveillance operation like they
did in Biddeford, Maine as an example, and they see
an illegal alien twenty six years old, he's got a wife,
three year old daughter from Colombia, and he gets into
his car and they wait for him to leave, you know,
(30:37):
back up and get all you know, start driving, and
then they pull him over. It's a traffic stop and
they tell him to get out, and he refuses to
get out, and they give him multiple warnings and he
still refuses, and then he starts to hit the gas
pedal and he's about to run over if at least one,
(30:58):
if not several ice agents, do they have the right
to shoot in self defense or are they entitled too?
Is he entitled to run them over? And is he
entitled to just get away simply because he's an I
legal alien?
Speaker 6 (31:14):
Well check.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Honestly, you're hitting on the key point here and that
do law enforcement officials have authority? Yes or no? And
of course the answer is yes. The minute something comes
out of their mouths, you do what they say. This
is common sense one oh one. And if you don't
do what they say, all bets are off. But that's
(31:35):
for any encounter with law enforcement. Doesn't necessarily mean if
you ran the statistics on other encounters with law enforcement.
Anybody who doesn't obey the law, and anybody who violates
a lawful command puts their life in jeopardy. So you
know what Mark Mallin has to do is it's got
(31:55):
to go out there and he's got to make the
case for the law, as the President does all the time.
And so if somebody is going to weaponize their vehicle
at that point, they're the ones who'll put their life
in danger full stop.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
What do you think is going to happen now, because basically,
as I said earlier, if they're not going to pull
them over, and they've been given orders not to pull
them over, if an illegal is in the car, no
matter how dangerous they are or how wanted they are. Well,
ICE agents are now saying we won't be able to
make deportations. I mean, we'll make a few here or
(32:33):
a few there if they give it to us in
a courthouse or transfer from a prison. But the overwhelming
majority of our deportations comes and you mentioned how the
numbers have been very good so far this year. They
come from the fact that we pull these illegal aliens
over on the streets in their cars. Well, now it
seems they've almost extended amnesty or sanctuary to the vehicle
(32:57):
that if an illegal is in a vehicle, whether it
be a van, a jeep, an suv, a car, you
can't touch them. And so if these illegals are smart,
all they should do is just sleep in their cars,
stay in their vehicles, and they basically have immunity. It's
like a form of forget sanctuary city or sanctuary state.
(33:19):
Now it's a sanctuary vehicle. So ICE is saying in private,
all these agents, many of them, say we're gonna quit
because you're gonna see deportation numbers plummet. They're going to
reduce dramatically because you've tied our hands and we can't
do our job. Are the ICE agents that are fuming?
(33:39):
Are they right?
Speaker 5 (33:42):
Right? And this is really demoralizing. I mean, I agree
with you that Christie Noman was excellent because she always
stood by, she had the back of ICE enforcement agents.
This is just demoralizing. The vast majority are doing a
phenomenal job, and they've been such a drop an overall crime,
a drop of eighteen percent in murder, eighteen point five
(34:04):
percent in robbery, seven point two percent in aggravated assault.
These are records to be proud of, and ICE agents
should be glorified, celebrated as our heroes, and instead they're
always being villainized. So it's really demoralizing to them. They
can't do their jobs and they're not celebrated as they
should be. And it's not just that illegals will sleep
(34:26):
in their cars. You also have another problem. You have
seventy one thousand now in detention centers, so the courts
try to get the criminals to stay in this country
or the illegals, they help them stay as long as possible.
Now you have this directive which helps them. And the
upshot is that ICE agents feel, what's the point we
can't do our job again. Our hands are being tied.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Grace. You know, our nephew Andrew is in customs and
border protection and apparently he's going to work we thought
in the Tucson sector, but he's actually gonna work in
the San Diego sector. Anyway, long story short, he's in
customs in border protection. But if he came to you,
or he came to me, or he came to us,
(35:11):
and you know how often he calls and he likes
to talk to us and get our opinion on things.
He calls his aunt Grace, he calls his uncle Jeff,
and he says, you know, I'm thinking of transferring. I
want to go from Customs in border protection. I want
to join ICE. I want to go into these sanctuary cities,
go after these hardened, dangerous criminal illegal aliens. And I
(35:34):
want to deport him for the good of the country.
Because you know what a patriot Andrew is. What would
you tell him.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
I would say, you know, when Christie Noolman was leading it,
go for it right now, just wait and see, because
the President has to overrule this directive, and he has
to send a signal that we're not going to be
appeasing illegal aliens. Appeasement doesn't work. What happened in Minnesota,
that was a policy of appeasement. It doesn't stop the agitators.
(36:04):
They keep wanting more and more, and their ultimate goal
is the total abolition of ICE. That's what they really want.
They don't want reform. They don't want this remarkable pace
of deportations to continue. They don't want this remarkable pace
of viobent crime to drop because that shows that the
Republicans are very capable on this issue. So they just
want to muddy the waters and encourage or try to
(36:28):
gin up public discontent. But the truth of the matter
is that we cannot appease the left on this issue.
And Christinohlman was doing a phenomenal job standing her ground
and getting the information out about the good work that
the vast majority of our ICE agents do. So Jeff
I would say to him at this point, no, stay
(36:50):
put and wait and see, because we've got to make
sure that the president corrects the issue and continues to
have the really tough approach that is bearing such success overall.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Yeah, you nailed it. You're absolutely nailed it as usual.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
And that's exactly what I would tell Andrew. I'd say, Andrew,
if your bosses don't have your back and they want
to put your body on the line, as these ICE
agents do,
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