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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, let me ask all of you, please don't look
it up, don't google it or go on duck duck
go or whatever.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Let me just ask all of you, wherever you are, worst,
which city do you believe has the worst drivers in America?
Worst drivers, you know, in other words, the most accident prone,
the most collisioned prone, the drivers that have the most accidents.

(00:30):
What would you say, LA and number one in the country?
Would you say, what? New York? New York City? And Boston?
That's right, Boston. So listen now to this. Now I'm
not talking cbls. I'm just throwing another quick log on

(00:51):
the fire. These are just you know, ordinary, you know,
I'm talking driver's licenses. All State issued its latest report
and according to all State, they say the city with
the number one, the most accidents, the most collision prone

(01:12):
drivers in the country is Boston. In fact, Boston drivers
are so bad that they commit more accidents. They are
one hundred and eighty nine percent above the national average.

(01:33):
One hundred and eighty nine percent above the national average.
That's how many freaking accidents there are in Boston and
the greater Boston area. So when you're driving and you're saying, man,
Boston drivers are bad. They're inconsiderate, they're rude, they're reckless,

(01:59):
their responsible. Frankly, I think some of them are crazy.
But let that go by the way. I almost got
hit yesterday, just out of the blue. I'm out of
the blue. I'm in the middle lane and this person
is in the right lane and just no signal. Note,
just cut me off, literally cut me off. Had I

(02:20):
not slammed on the brakes, bang, he would have hit me.
And I do a little bit of the honk, you know,
like uhh, Like, buddy, what's wrong with you? What do
you think he did? Rolls down his window and gives
me the middle finger from the He's in front of
me now and he's giving me like the back of
the fist, like with the finger up the bird. I'm like,
this is unbelievable. You almost hit me, you almost cause

(02:45):
an accident, and you're giving me the middle finger. I'm like,
that's a Boston driver. Okay, number one in the country,
highest accident rated, worst drive in the country. But hold
on now, it doesn't end with Boston, Springfield, Massachusetts, Worcester, Massachusetts, Providence,

(03:16):
Rhode Island. I know it's a different state, but you
know they're right up there, you know, part of New England.
They're right on the Massachusetts line. Those other three cities
are also in the top ten, top ten of all
cities in the United States that have the most collisions

(03:37):
and the highest rate of accidents. And so you have
to ask yourself, why, what's what's the common theme, why
is it, what's is it the water? What's going on
in Massachusetts? Boston number one, and Springfield, Worcester in the

(03:59):
top ten. Well, to me, it's very obvious. It's so obvious,
it's as plain as one's nose. Massachusetts sanctuary state, Boston
sanctuary city, Worcester sanctuary city, Springfield sanctuary city, Providence, Rhode

(04:24):
Island sanctuary city. And in particular, what is it that
Massachusetts is especially proud of. Every illegal alien can get
a driver's license, no problem. In fact, Mora Heally, as

(04:44):
I said, campaigned on this issue, and according to her,
this was her prediction, this was her vow. And the
Democrats on Beacon Hill in the state legislature said no, no, no, no,
You know, Diane, in Everet's point about how we were
going putting up signatures, getting signatures, we don't want driver's

(05:05):
licenses to go to illegals. What did they say, if
we give illegals driver's licenses, Oh, accidents will go down,
collisions will go down, deaths in the road will go down.
It's gonna make the road so much safer because now

(05:27):
they have an actual driver's license. It's done literally the
exact opposite. It's done the exact opposite. We have the
most dangerous roads in the country, the most unsafe roads
in the country, the most accidents and collisions in the country.

(05:54):
So let me ask you, have you been hit or
gotten into an accident with an illegal alien? Have you
encountered an illegal alien in an accident where they have
no insurance, because this is very common across the country,

(06:16):
and especially here in mass but also in many Blue states.
And should we be giving drivers' licenses to illegals? I
say absolutely not. A they're here illegally, so they shouldn't
get any kind of benefits that a citizen or a
legal resident should get. Rick in taunting, Thanks for holding

(06:41):
Rick and welcome.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Good morning, Jeff. I hope this show is going to
be the catalyst to the people in charge to finally
be held accountable. I've been waiting for this opportunity for
several years. I had a CDL license for sixteen years,
and I won't go into detail on the many hoops

(07:04):
that I had to jump through to not only get it,
but to maintain it. And mysteriously it was taken away
and I suspect it was given to an illegal.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Wow. Hi, Rick, I'm just curious. What makes you say that,
if you don't mind me asking.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Is you have to take a medical physical, a DOT physical,
and you have to be self certified, which means you
have to fill out all this paperwork and signed by
the doctors submit your records. Well, I submitted mine two
months early because I was going to have forty four

(07:54):
doses of radiation, So in anticipation of being under the weather,
I completed it early. And you know, I completed my
radiation and everything, expected to go back to work, and
suddenly we never received your paperwork. And this is about

(08:17):
the same time that you know they were handing out
CDL licenses to illegals.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Incredible, incredible, So, Rick, what happened you what? They didn't
renew your CDL.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
Oh No, they said, no, it's too late. I didn't
even have an opportunity, but there was nothing I could
do simply gone after sixteen years.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
There was no appeal process. There was no way you
could appeal it or ask them to maybe change their
mind or to review or anything like that.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Hey, they didn't afford me that opportunity. You know, had
they given me that opportunity, I would have done whatever necessary, because,
as you probably know, they're very difficult to get in
the first place, and you know, in my case, I
had to be fingerprinted, I had to take has Matt tests,

(09:18):
which has Matt tests are very difficult to pass, even
when you speak and understand English. So that alone is
criminal for illegals to be driving, especially possessing a HASMAT license.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Rick, I've got to ask you, why do you think
this state is so determined to take away a CDL
from a law abiding American citizen, and not only a
law biding American citizen. Look, I mean you drove, you know,
you drove commercial trucks for sixteen years. Obviously you got

(09:56):
a lot of experience. You know how to do the job.
It's a hard job. You're a professional, you've done it
for sixteen years, you're a veteran. You figure that's exactly
the kind of person we want on the road driving
these you know, these huge tractor trailers. So why would
they want to take it away from someone like you,
who's clearly very qualified to do this and has proven

(10:19):
you can do it for many years and give it
to an illegal alien? What do you think is driving this?

Speaker 3 (10:28):
We all know why it's all about to vote. And incidentally,
I was your last point about almost being hit. I
was almost hit in a head on collision by clearly
and illegal that had no idea about any road signs.

(10:48):
And when the cop came, he told me straight out.
We are told do not arrest these people unless they're
driving under this influence. Now, this is from a state
trooper's own mouth.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
So no matter how reckless they drive, how irresponsible, how
much they endanger people's lives, or cause accidents or cause collisions,
no matter what, don't arrest them unless they're clearly drunk
or under the influence. Correct, That is correct?

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Sure, from the state troopers mouth.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
From a horse's mouth, the proverbial horse's mouth, as they say, Rick,
I mean, I believe you one thousand percent because I've
heard these same horror stories from police officers as well,
and from drivers who've been involved in accidents. It's disgusting.
It really is disgusting. Rick, I'm sorry. I don't want
to keep people say, well, Jeff, why do you keep

(11:48):
asking the same question? Because I just can't wrap my
mind around this. You know, Billin, Sudbury drives on the
same roads that you and I do, Chris and Gloucester.
All these moonbats that live in this state, Like what
they don't value their life? I mean, do they want
to be on a really like they want to be
on a road with people who blow stop signs and

(12:10):
blow red lights and are flying, you know, going down
the wrong way against traffic. Like Rick, I got to
ask you, why do the moon bats and the Democrats?
I know why the leadership does it. You're right, the
pander of the illegals. It's all about the votes, I
got it. But I'm talking about your ordinary rank and

(12:31):
file Democrat who's got to work, you know, go to work, drive,
go shopping, whatever. Why are they willing to put their
lives at risk? What's your theory on that?

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Rick?

Speaker 3 (12:45):
Well, I I have this conversation with many people and
I tell them to listen to your show in the morning.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
So you're saying, Jeff, you tell me Rick, thank you,
great call. Honestly great call. Rick, thank you so much
for that call. And I feel very sorry for him.
I mean, this is so unfair. CDL sixteen years clearly
are really experienced, professional, really good driver, and they take

(13:20):
it away from him and they give it to an
illegal alien. I mean, it's just it's incredible. Six one
seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight. But let
me throw this log on the fire. Okay, two logs
if you don't mind, two quick logs. Number one, Why
aren't liberals outraged by this? I mean, I understand for

(13:40):
the leadership again, the votes, I get that, okay, but again,
what do they want to get hit by illegals? Do
they want to get killed in a car crash? You know?
I mean do they want experience what we all experience
where there? You know, as I said, they go through
red lights, they go through stop signs, they're literally driving
down the wrong way. I mean that to me is

(14:04):
a very harrowing experience. Like don't they want to keep
these clearly incompetent, dangerous drivers off the road for their
own safety, I mean, their own lives. Don't they value
their own neck. I mean, I'm sure they have husbands
or wives, boyfriends, girlfriends, partners, children for their family's sake.

(14:27):
Or are they that guilt ridden and so full of
self loathing that they're even willing to put their own
lives on the line and that of their families to
appease the illegal aliens?

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Like?

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Are they that far gone? Seriously? And then number two,
I got to ask you, do you think the Moniker
now that Boston has the worst drivers, the most accident
collision prone drivers in the entire country? Is that your experience?
Do you agree with that? Or do you think Boston

(15:01):
is getting a bad rap six personally? When I saw it,
I wasn't surprised. I mean, if you pressed me without
seeing the report, obviously I would say top five. I
probably wouldn't say number one. I don't know why. I
just I would say probably New York or LA. You know,
I'd go with either New York or LA and I

(15:24):
could see Boston maybe you know, in third something like that.
But when I saw number one, I was I said, really,
so they're even worse than I thought they were. But anyway,
I wasn't surprised, were you? Bruce in Wooburn thanks for
holding Bruce, and welcome. Oh boy, that moon bad howl

(15:55):
is very worthy for this topic. Bruce, Bruce, what do
you make of the whole thing, my friend.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
Well, let me tell you something, Jeff, I'm gonna rant
a little bit here, so be patient, don't shut me off.
Carry me out to the next GIDEO when I got
my license in nineteen seventy seven, out.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Bruce, because you're going to go on a nice rant. Okay,
I want to go right back to Bruce and Wouburn.
But let me just give Bruce even a little bit
more ammunition for his rant, because we've been talking about,
you know, the poor state trooper who's now dead, obviously,
Michael Pehara Junior, killed by a Haitian illegal alien truck

(16:38):
driver who got his CDL license is commercial driver's license
from Massachusetts under Healey sanctuary state policies. Well, listen now
to this one again. The media won't touch that scandal,
they won't touch this one. Listen out to this. So
the latest innocent American who got killed by an illegal

(17:04):
alien because the Democrats want to keep importing more democratic
voters is twenty one year old you Mass Lowell, soccer
star Toby Forsyth. So here's a twenty one year old
soccer star playing at University of Massachusetts in Lowell, Toby Forsyth.

(17:29):
Nothing from the Democrats in Massachusetts, nothing, nothing from the legislature,
nothing from the governor, barely anything a peep from the media.
And this time the truck drivers. The truck driver was
from Muzbekistan, Whuzbekistan. He's an USBEC and apparently couldn't speak

(17:53):
a word of English, couldn't read English, can't speak English,
didn't know the rules of the road. And now a
twenty one year old American citizen with the world in
front of him, the world, as they say, in the
palm of his hand, a soccer star to boot is
now dead. Like I said, I could go on and

(18:18):
on and on. Now, this is not in Massachusetts, Okay,
it's not. It's a different state. It was down in
North Carolina. But an illegal alien deported multiple times allowed
back in under Biden, was given a driver's license, was

(18:40):
driving drunk, blew through a stop sign and killed a
six year old girl, an American six year old girl.
Apparently he hit her so hard that poor girl never
to the chance. He blew that stop sign like it

(19:03):
wasn't even there flying. I could do this. I could
do this the whole show. And so how many bodies
have to continue to pile up? How many Americans have
to continue to die before we finally say enough is enough,

(19:23):
No driver's licenses to illegal aliens, no CDLs to illegals,
and deport every single one of them out. And you
know the pole question I think today is spot on.
Should federal funding be revoked from states who give CDLs

(19:43):
to illegal aliens? Absolutely, at a bare minimum, federal funding
should be revoked. In other words, it's time to take
the gloves off, Bruce and woo burn. The floor is yours,
go my friend.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
All right, Jeff. In nineteen seventy seven, on my nineteen birthday,
I got my CDL track the trailer forty five fort
trailer at that time was the forty eight forty five?
And where did I get.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
It walled in?

Speaker 4 (20:21):
And who was there a registry car for this big
nickel plated in three fifty seven? They were the king dogs,
they were the top dogs. And I'll tell you something,
if that was today, nobody did they have their licenses today?
With these automatic transmissions. I'm a gay jam of Jeff,

(20:43):
I got over six million miles under my belt, forty
eight states. That was a bed butter, a mover. I
worked my butt off. These guys they're driving these driving
these automatic trucks like they're a station wagon and fifty
three feet long. It's crazy, Jeff. Why when they combined

(21:05):
the state police with the Registry cops back then, they
were the bad Larry's when you want to get your license,
that's who was sitting.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Oh, Larry, hold on, Mike, Bruce. You can't spell it out.
You just can't say it. Just say the crap. They'd
scared the crap out of you, Larry. Whether you're sorry, Bruce,
whether you spell it out or you say it, you
still can't do it. So please no swearing. Go ahead, Bruce,

(21:40):
you're on a roll.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
But what I'm trying to say is the state police
are our best protection. The local police. Now, back in
the day, the local police only had thirty eight the
Registry cops and the state Luce said, three fifty sevens.
And they think now they all have high capacity and

(22:06):
they're able to protect themselves from the criminals. But we
got these people, just the people that don't even have
CDLs JEF that have licenses that are running red lights,
run and stop signs. No, no, they can't even reach
stop signs. They can't reach, they can't read nothing jet.

(22:28):
Not one guy would have their license.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Bruces, as a commercial truck driver who's been doing this
for what is it now, over forty plus years, six
million miles under your belt, I got to say, Buddy,
that is extremely impressive. Have you noticed the roads Have
they gotten more dangerous, more unsafe? I don't know, say

(22:56):
in the last ten years, five ten years, has it
gotten worse or better? In your opinion?

Speaker 4 (23:05):
They don't have these guys going for skids school when
icy conditions and slippery conditions. We went to skids school
where they painted the tie is on the trailer so
you can see that they weren't spinning. They were locked
up and you couldn't recover from it unless you accelerated
out of it. There's no education with these people anymore.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Wow, Bruce as always, thank you very much for that call.
My friend. H Yeah, well that's that's what I'm mean.
That's Secretary Sean Duffy's been making that point. He says
we're lowering standards to appease or appeal to these illegals
to try to accommodate them to you know, you know,

(23:52):
ram the cbls into their hands and get them through
these schools or have these big trucking companies you know,
they call them CDL mills twenty four hours. They just
rush them through a crash program. And it's exactly what
Bruce was just saying, very little education, low standards, and

(24:14):
just put them out there on the road. Well, that's
our lives you're playing with, man, you know, I mean,
come on, wait, what's the matter with you people? And look,
can I just say this, why can't we pay American
citizens any more a decent wage? Because what's really driving

(24:35):
a lot of this is they want to get these
illegals because they can pay them a lot less than
an American Like, okay, i'll pay more, but just give
me a professional American driver who's well trained, who knows
how to drive, because it's really difficult to drive these
tractor trailers and pay them a decent wage or her

(24:57):
a decent wage. Our whole country, it's everything is like
cheap labor. We're addicted to cheap labor. It doesn't matter,
it's got to be cheap and that's why they keep
flooding our country with illegals. Signam. It doesn't matter. You know, fruit,
you gotta pick fruit or vegetables. Cheap work at a

(25:17):
you know, at a chicken plant or whatever. It's got
to be cheap. You want to drive a truck, it's
got to be cheap. It's all cheap labor, cheap, cheap, cheap, cheap,
and the quality for everything is going down six seven
two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Again we're selling
our soul, our collective national soul, for the almighty buck.

(25:42):
It's not worth it. Fred In Saugus, Thanks for holding Fred,
and welcome.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
Hi.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Yeah, Hi, freak job.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (25:54):
This is a real complex subject because the problems are
immense and solutions are probably very difficult. So I just
give you a little bit of my background. First, I've
been driving for fifty five years. I'm seventy two of
them retired in and I've been in and out of
construction business. I had a CDL since I was twenty one.

(26:19):
I gave it up three years ago. I was out
on the road now. I was just a construction driver
here locally Class B, which isn't the track. The trailers,
and maybe I had a class AX so I could
haul a a trailer, so I could haul like a
Bobcat a roll.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Or something like that.

Speaker 5 (26:40):
But it was about twenty seven feet long. Now these
rigs just what he says, they're like seventy feet maybe
seventy feet because you get your sleeper in there. And
I went over the road from twenty twelve to twenty eighteen,
just thinking that my mother passed away in twenty twelve.
It's just Oh, I heard about going over the road

(27:02):
and take my golf clubs.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
So I did it.

Speaker 5 (27:05):
I went to the school. And I'll tell you, Jeff,
I don't know you ask me anything you want.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
I mean to me, the school.

Speaker 5 (27:13):
Should tell the students exactly the percentages of what's going
on with how many people really make it through.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Well, that's the other thing, Fred, You're not the only
one that's told me this. Many you know, commercial drivers,
truck drivers have told me, Jeff, they're lowering standards at
the schools even and you know we talk about in
the education system. Just for a second, Fred, how they're
you know, they dumbing down of America. How you know

(27:42):
they pass anybody doesn't matter. Elementary high school, you could
you know, you're failing math, you're failing you know, writing whatever.
I mean. They're graduating high school students who are basically
functionally literate. They're graduating high school students with maybe fifth
sixth grade math skills, fifth sixth grade high school graduating them.

(28:03):
So they keep lowering standards and lowering standards and lowering standards.
And these truck drivers have been telling me, and I
trust them because why would they lie. And they're all
saying the same thing by the way they go, Jeff,
it's not what it used to be. They cut corners,
they're lowering standards. It's not what it used to be.
That's why I look, Fred, I got to ask you

(28:26):
fifty five years, that's no joke. You've been around the
block and then some in the last say, five or
ten years on the roads. Has it gotten safer or
more unsafe, because the perception that I have that has
gotten a hell of a lot more unsafe. And I

(28:46):
think it's directly correlated to the massive influx of illegals.
I think there's no question in my mind but that
I'm not saying that, you know, American citizens or legal residents. Look,
Boston drivers are crazy drivers, I you know. I mean, look,
I get cut off all the time. I see people.
I mean, what speed limit? There is no speed limit,

(29:07):
you know whatever. In some areas it's fifty five, others
it's sixty five. It doesn't matter, eighty eighty five, ninety.
You should see how they're driving. It's like the Indy
five hundred. And by the way, this state, I don't
know if in driving school they don't teach the signal light.
Nobody uses a freaking signal light. Have you noticed that.

(29:28):
I mean, they don't even try. So it's just like
they're just merging. They're just merging, and nobody uses a
signal light. And then what, I'm the only idiot on
the road. You can tell it's me Fred. If you're
ever on the road, you go, oh, hey, that's cooner.
He just he's got a signal light. He's gonna turn left.
He's the only guy. Let's wave. I turn my signal

(29:52):
light right or left. I swear to you. People are
looking at me like I have six heads. They're like,
who uses a signal light? What the hell is this?
And by the way, they still ignore it. They just
cut you off, go in front of you. Go beside
you whatever you know. But Fred, I've got to ask you,

(30:13):
is it me or am I wrong? Do you believe
is your perception as well that the roads are just
much more unsafe over the last ten years or so?
What say you?

Speaker 5 (30:28):
Definitely? Yeah, And I would say that fifty of the
drivers out there are basically not qualified to be driving
those drakes. That's my that's my honest opinion.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Fifty.

Speaker 5 (30:45):
Now, I, like I said, I was out over the
road only for six years, but boy did I get discouraged.
So I don't know, you know, like I got so
many stories I could tell, But I do know this
that that school the Korea, they should everything should be
told what it is all government subsidized, you know that

(31:05):
probably to keep up. That's why I said it's so complex,
because groceries would be through the roof, and so the
government gets in there, they get a student that rides
out for ten weeks with somebody. Basically it's like having
a little puppet on the side to drive for ten
weeks for the government. And they're supposed to be learning

(31:27):
the trade.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
But just I don't care if.

Speaker 5 (31:30):
You're a million mile or a five million mile. You know,
the conditions are always changing.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
And you go through the school and.

Speaker 5 (31:38):
One of the safety one of the big trucking Outfitts
even has Charlie was his name, but he was over
a million miles. Oh god, he was probably five million miles.
And he's got to live with the fact that he
went to work one morning and slid into a car
and paralyze the girl just which five or six years old.

(32:00):
And this guy has been driving between two million and
five He's won every award going.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
No, I know, Fred, it's a very dangerous job. It's
a very difficult job. It's it's it's a hard job,
and you know it's it's it's a massive truck. It's
basically a weapon. I mean, I know it's there for
transportation obviously, but it's you know, it could become very easily.
You said, your slick road ice or black ice or whatever,

(32:31):
and you can kill or maim or cripple someone. And
you know, I'm sure that that. You know, he's an
incredible driver, and he just thees bad conditions and boom,
and I bet it's going to haunt him for the
rest of his life. I mean, I'm sure his conscience
is eating away at him, you know, and no, And
I got to say this, Fred. When I'm driving back.

(32:52):
Occasionally I will stop off at say a Jersey Mike's
for a sandwich.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
Guy.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
I mean, not always, but once in a while I'll
stop off for a sandwich. And in the area that
near where I live, and it's a bit of a
side road to get there. And I don't know why,
but a lot of truckers go through that area. I
can't believe, with the size of that rig, how they
can make that turn and thread the needle the way

(33:17):
they do every single time. It's amazing. I'm like, if
I was driving that, I'd hit this car. That car.
I mean, to drive something that big and that unwieldy,
and the way they do it, you know, so effortlessly,
so precisely. It takes tremendous, tremendous skill. Or when they

(33:42):
back up with that thing and they're turning it and
they're backing it up, and I'm like, on the first
try they got it. I could be there literally all day,
all day. Now, couna do it again? No wit like
a you just hit a car. I mean, if I
had to do it, I'm not or most people you
couldn't do it, so it's such a difficult, high risk,

(34:07):
dangerous job. To me, the standards have to be higher,
not lower. And my god, the last thing you do,
Fred is you put a freaking illegal behind that wheel.
It's like putting an illegal behind a plane. Like you're crazy.
Like That's when I'm reading these stories and I'm like,

(34:28):
I'm looking around, like am I insane? Am I losing
my mind? You're gonna put an illegal alien behind an
eighteen wheeler truck who doesn't know the instructions, can't read
a manual, doesn't know English, doesn't know the basic rules.

(34:49):
It's like putting an illegal behind a plane, Like what
are you nuts? Of course people are gonna get killed,
it's inevitable. Two six six sixty eight sixty eight, Andy
im Norton, thanks for holding Andy, and welcome.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Good morning, Jeff. Jeff. I've had a CDO license for
I had them for thirty years. I can't believe what's
going on in this country right now. Anybody who passes
somebody and these inspectors will get these lecens out. They
aren't accomplished to murder. It's if people are killed, get killed.
I just can't believe what's what's happening right now? Step

(35:31):
poor kid from uhuh you mask or whatever, the soccer
player there, that's a young kid as a whole life
ahead of them, and some jerk gave him a license
to that illegally. And that is just that gets me
upset because I had one for thirty years, Jeff, And
I tell you what, that was one of the hot
places that I ever got. And to give these things

(35:51):
out that candy is a travesty.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
You know, Well, Andy, let me. I don't want to,
you know, get too personal. But Andy, I bet you
had to jump through hoop after hoop after hoop to
get that CDL. I bet they had you go through
test after test. I bet you had inspection after inspection.
I bet you were worrying constantly when you're during your

(36:15):
thirty years. Am I complying with all the regulations, all
the rules because God forbid, they'll find me or they'll
take away my license? Am I wrong? Andy?

Speaker 2 (36:26):
No? Because I got mine in the mid eighties, and
back then it was what it was, you did it with.
Somebody at work would train you, and you know, you
still had to take the permit test and then you
would go up and you would take the test and
you know, you hopefully passed, and I got mine, and
it was known that, you know, quite often it was
fifty fifty whether or not. You've got to pastors, these

(36:47):
these inspectors who were very, very tough, They were very tough.
Then these schools came on board. We had to go
to these schools to do it, and it almost became
if you didn't go too.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Yeah, it's almost if you didn't go to a school,
wouldn't get your license. And you are so right,
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