To the Victor Goes the Surrender?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, I want to ask all of you now that
Iran has laid out a new set of demands and
conditions for the Strait of Hormuz to be opened, and
they include essentially an American surrender, lifting of the naval blockade,
all economic sanctions, pay damages for the war to Iran,

(00:25):
unfreese all Iranian assets, and promise to not target or
go after any of Iran's militias their proxies, whether it
be in Lebanon, in Gaza, in the West Bank, wherever
it may be. Has bellah hamas Islamic jihad. They say,

(00:47):
once America agrees to these terms, then they will fully
reopen the Strait of Hormose. Should America take the deal,
or should as the cooner Man is advocating, resume massive
bombing or door three, just say the hell with it,

(01:12):
go home, sign don't sign anything, don't agree to anything.
Just take all of our soldiers and just come on
home and say militarily we claubren them. And now it's
up to the rest of the world to clean up
the Strait of Hormuse. It's you know, we don't need
we don't rely on that oil. Most of the world

(01:35):
does Europe, China and India in particular, they get their
oil and liquefied natural gas through the Strait. It's your problem,
you deal with it. Six one seven two six six
sixty eight sixty eight. Joe in Abington. Thanks for holding Joe,

(01:56):
and welcome.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Hey, good morning, Jeff. The problem is that the reason
that we've never won a war since World War Two.
We win every battle, but there's only two outcomes to
a war. You either have liberation or occupation.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
And we can't win a war when.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
We don't have the people. So Trump might have thought
that we had the Iranian people behind us, but apparently
it's like America. There are split people. So some people
back these shaw I mean, and some people back the emoas.
And so we're not going to win a war unless
we occupy the territory, which we're not going to do.

(02:39):
That's why we couldn't win Iraq. We couldn't win Vietnam.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
We can't. We can win. We could bomb Vietnam.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
To the Stone Age, and we did, but we had
to leave and defeat. So no matter what we can.
We can spend every missile that we have and accept.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
The nuclear ones.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
And if we do that, what moral clarity do we
have if we went into this to stop nuclear weapons
and then we use them, So there's no way to
And Plus, when we talk about having this giant capacity,
the capacity that we had in World War Two meant
that we had no steal we had we had no
we had gas rationing, we had we were all in

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on this war.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
We're not all in on on this war in Iran,
so we of course were going to run out. We
had to give up everything to get the amount of
munitions and the amount of troops in World War two.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
So the endgame is.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
There's no way out.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Of this except, like you said, the third option, which
is horrible that we broke the egg and now we
walk away.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Joe, I'm not doing this to trick you, or embarrass
you or humiliate you. In fact, quite the contrary, I'm
doing this to bolster I think with your excellent point, Joe,
do you, if by any chance, do you know what
the population of the United States was during World War two?

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Ballpark the same as Iran is now a little.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Bit higher, a little bit higher. Most Americans don't know it.
I know it because I taught American history. That's why.
So I had the figures in front of me, one
hundred and fifty million, so essentially less than half the
people that we have. Now we're at about three point
thirty three forty Do you account the illegals? Do you
not county illegals? But anyway, so we're about three hundred

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and thirty three hundred and forty million. The figure that's
more commonly used now is three hundred and forty million.
So we were a nation of only one hundred and
fifty million then, so that's less than half. How many
are soldiers? How many men did we put under arms
in World War Two? Take a guest, Joe, remember one

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hundred and fifty million. Take a guess, four million, fifteen
point five million. Again, that goes exactly to your point. Again,
I'm not trying to embarrass you. I'm just saying most
Americans don't know this. I do. I got the you know,
I was professor, Professor, I'm giving a lecture, and so
I had all these stats and I would just lay

(05:12):
them out. But so we had a country, this goes
exactly to what you're saying that had less than half
the population that we have now with fifteen million. Okay,
let's leave out the Hulf fifteen million men under arms,
fifteen million. That's how you win a war with a

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declaration of war, with the entire economy mobilized. You're completely right.
We went to Ford, we went to GM, we went
to you know, to tell you know what, the big
three automakers. And we said, no, no, you can't make cars.
We need you to make tanks. No, no, no, no,
we need you to make bullets. No, no no. We
went to Cleveland, Pittsburgh, all these big stacks, you know,

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these industrial stacks, and we said, we need machine guns,
we need bullets, we need grenades, we whatever we needed.
We needed airplanes and churn it out, churn it out,
churn it out, churn it out. And you're right. We occupied.
We not only defeated the Nazis, but when we took territory,

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we took it, we occupied it. Okay. So just to
wrap up my point with Joe and he it was
an excellent call by Joe, it's liberation or occupation. That's
how we used to win our wars. You liberate people
and then you well, you occupy, you overthrow their tyrannical governments,
and then you know, that's how you liberate them but

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you occupy, you know, you occupy them first by overthrowing
the tyrannical government, and then the people are liberated. So
you go to World War Two. We had a declaration
of war, total mobilization, the entire economy, everybody's sacrific food, rationing,
gas rationing, you name it, the whole country working as

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one towards victory. Fifteen million men under arms, fifteen million,
And of course we wanted to minimize casualties, but we
knew we were going to take very heavy casualties. We
knew that, so we weren't afraid to say, I don't
know d day. We knew a lot of boys were

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gonna get slaughtered. We sent them because we had to
take make open the Second Front and push the Nazis
out of France and then drive towards Berlin, or we
went through Italy. We knew that a lot of boys
would die, but we had to knock off Mussolini and
then drive up through the soft underbelly going up towards Berlin.

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From the south, So and especially Japan, it was island hopping.
It was vicious, brutal fighting, and we took a lot.
I mean, the Japanese took more casualties, about four to one,
even five to one, but still a lot of American
boys were dead. They were killed. Well, let's just fast

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forward to today. I'm just making an observation. Nobody wants
to sacrifice. Gas goes up to four bucks a gallon.
Everybody's complaining. I mean politically, it's now become a liability
for the Republicans. So you know, so that's already too
much of a sacrifice for many people. We don't want

(08:32):
to lose a single soldier. Please, I don't want to
lose soldiers. But I'm just saying we don't want to
have mass casualties. So that rules out ground troops. Well,
how are you going to take over Tehran? How are
you going to take over the capitol without ground troops?
You can't. The only way is if the Iranian people

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rise up. Joe was dead. On They're divided, they're split.
Some want to overthrow the Mullas, others support the Molas.
We saw that at the funeral for the Ayatola, the
twenty million of them that showed up crying, weeping for
this mass murderer. So, okay, that's out so far. The

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Kurds are not fighting. We haven't built up or armed
a domestic insurgency, so they're not going to be our
ground troops for now. So you're left with air missile seapower.
Now you can do a lot of damage. You could,
you know, maybe even break a country's will or a

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government's back economically with by you know, there's civilian infrastructure,
their power plants, their bridges, prevent them from selling oil
by taking carg Island, and then you're draining them of
any revenue. So you can starve them both financially and
with the blockade, literally starve them. But this takes time.

(09:58):
Now are we willing to wait? I don't know. The
American people are much more impatient now than we were
during World War Two. You know, for us, six months
is already forever. That was a four year war. So
what I'm saying is the country has changed the way

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we fight a war has changed. And that's the reason why,
as Joe is completely right, we win every battle, but
we can't finish it because we're no longer willing to
do what it takes to finish it. And so the

(10:39):
question now is what do we do? Six one seven
is because the one thing about the Iranians. They're willing
to sacrifice a lot of bodies, even themselves. I mean
to give them the They're like the Imperial Japanese. They're
almost suicidal. They almost as I said, it's a death cult.

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Dying gets you to a llah, Dying gets you your
seventy two virgins. So it's almost like they want to die.
It's a very sick, perverted it's not even a religion.
It's a cult. So those are the realities, and Trump
now has to navigate these realities. Six one seven two

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six six sixty eight sixty eight K in Rockland. Thanks
for holding K, and.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
Welcome to taking my call. I've been listening as I'm
driving down to the cave. If we I think, if
we don't do anything, if we just continue with rhetoric
and talk, they're winning. We are going to lose the
whole Republican Party because we give in, we cave. We

(11:57):
don't annihilate. We need to annihilate. It's a known fact.
People are going to die, and there'll be casualties. There
always is.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
This is war.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
We should have known before we went in that these
animals they fight to the end. They don't care about
their people and that's that we have no true allies
except for net in Yahoo Israel, very minimal from the
other countries that are surrounding that area. They're the ones
that should be scared. Either that or we walk away.
We let it go and let them them for themselves.

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But we had better be locked and loaded all around
our borders and with our missiles to attack anything coming
our way, because that's that's what's going to be in
the future. I think the Republican Party is going to
be gone and we will be a one party country,
and we better get our borkers out. We better get
a little dish ragouts and kneel down to Allah and

(12:50):
all that, because that's what we're That's how I feel
about it.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Well, I hope it doesn't happen, kay, I really hope
we don't become a one party basically Mark state actually
now increasingly Muslim Marxist state, because it'll be a disaster.
I mean, people say it can't get worse. Oh no,
it can always get much worse, much worse. At a

(13:17):
bare minimum, you're going to see our return to the
Biden years, which were I know people aren't happy with,
you know, with inflation and gas and the cost of living,
I get it, but it was much worse under Biden.
People have forgotten how high inflation was under Biden, and
the millions and what millions, tens of millions of illegals

(13:37):
that were pouring in, and the crime that was everywhere.
I mean it was. Those were some of the worst
years in the history of the United States. That at
a minimum, that's what we're gonna get. I think we're
gonna get even worse. So that's why, really, I know
Trump's people are listening. They listen to this show, and
I'm with you all the way.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
Kay.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Look, when you go to war, you go to war,
and Americans are going to die. And that's just the fact.
That's why, to our credit, when we have a debate,
as we're discussing entering a war, it's a very passionate
debate because we love our troops and so people say, well,
I don't think it's worth it. Some people say, I
do think it's worth it. And that's why I always

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think you should have a debate, an honest debate. But
once you've committed to war, and once you're in the war,
you have to finish it. It's like getting into a
cage fight or a boxing match, unless you want to
get your brains beaten out. You have your opponent on
the ropes, you go for the jugular, you go for

(14:42):
the knockout. And we don't seem to want to go
for the knockout. And you're right, Iran is getting stronger.
Iran is getting clearly more emboldened. And to me, what's scary, kay,
is the perception in the region now is starting slowly,

(15:03):
it's not so far in the surface, but inexorably you
can tell they're like, boy, these are Inians. They're not
backing down, and they're threatening to destroy all of the
oil refineries, oil infrastructure of all their Persian Gulf allies.
So the Saudis now are afraid of Iran, you know,

(15:26):
the UAE, Bahrain, Qatar, Kuwak, they're now afraid of Iran,
and they're asking themselves openly. This is in their media.
You know, we give so much to the United States,
we invest so much money in America. What are we
getting out of it? I mean, yeah, we have a
security guarantee, but are they really protecting us? Because Iran's

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missiles and drones or rockets are hitting us here. This
broke over the weekend, another violation of international law. Iran
unproved launched a missile and hit a UAE oil tanker
ship direct hit, direct hit. Now luckily nobody died, but

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the ship has been completely disabled. It's loaded with oil.
I mean, it's burning, it's but no way they managed
to put out the fire. But the point is it's
that oil is not getting through. The ship is finished.
So what's happening now is they're starting to intimidate and
bully their neighbors. And they're looking at the United States

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and they're like, yeah, on paper, you have all this,
you know, firepower and military and missiles and drones, but
in reality, if you're not willing to use it, what's
the point of having it. Very quickly, Iran throws down
the gauntlet. Their top national security official, the Secretary of

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Iran's Supreme National Security Council, along with their foreign minister,
Boss Aragachi, have now publicly told the United States and
the world one they refuse to negotiate directly with us because,
as they put it, they have such little respect for

(17:24):
us that they can't stand the site of the face
of our negotiators, even the site of them and number two,
and to me even more importantly, they now say that
there will be no discussions on any nuclear agreement, any
peace deal regarding their nuclear program. However, if we want

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to see the Strait of horm Moose opened, as President
Trump does, then we must abide by certain fundamental demands
that Iran says are for them absolutely bottom line and
on the number one, United States must pull out all
of its forces from the entire Persian Gulf. Number two,

(18:11):
lift the entire blockade, lift all sanctions, and unfreeze all
of Iran's frozen assets. We're looking at hundreds of billions
of dollars in revenue. Furthermore, they want the United States
to pay billions, if not tens of billions in reparations, damages,

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whatever you want to call it, restitution for the war
to Iran. And they want the United States to no
longer target or threaten any of Iran's proxy terrorist militias,
whether it be has Bellah, Hamas or Islamic jihad. In short,

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they want the United States to agree to a surrender.
If America surrenders, the strait will be reopened. What should
Trump do? And our negotiations now are complete waste of
time six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight.

(19:20):
Jim in New Hampshire. Thanks for holding, Jim.

Speaker 5 (19:24):
And welcome Hey Jeff, Happy Monday.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Happy Monday, Jim. The floor is yours. Go ahead, my friend.

Speaker 5 (19:33):
All right, I'm gonna try to quickly add it's the
options number one and number two kind of the state
of what's going on in this country. But the options
I see we have three, the kind of three discussed
in kind of a fourth outside the boxers. I'm just
gonna throw in there after now. The worst option not
just because of anti war, it's it would be escalating.
The reason is why munition is number one. Everyone says it,
and now you can say Trump says we do, We don't.

(19:53):
He also said we won forty times this war.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
We did.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
I do think we're lowing munitions defensive and offense, and refinery.
Could they wi hit the refineries and we'll never get
those old prices down ever. People forget about refineries in
the Middle East that they can hit very easily. Immigration
would would would would skyrocket. And you're forgetting Israel the
size of New Jersey, that country. You think they're in danger,
now forget about it. They would be beyond existential, and

(20:16):
then you probably see nuke because what else do they
have at that point if you're surrounded by millions and
millions of Arabs. Once you did, all our allies in
the region destroyed. Like I said, the Red Sea as
well closed, the Straight closed, it's not going to open up,
and then Rochaterana North Korea would get more involved, which
they already are. And we're vulnerable here. People forget. We
have our power plants here, our water supply is vulnerable.

(20:37):
We haven't really upgraded these in decades. Carousels aren't here
in the US they could. That could be another thing
to deal with. So escalation would be terrible. And by
the way, there's no support of it. And that brings
up another quick thing, the deep state and doing a
mass casualty event here I went all the past them,
whether they would know about water, let it or do it,
whatever that would be. I would be concerned about that
that they want to get more support for war, and

(20:58):
that's how you do. But to me, that would only
divide the country further. Team people claim me for war
more or people claring for peace more. So Number one
option to me is just a no win scenario.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
For anybody.

Speaker 5 (21:08):
Number two an agreement. It's bad for us, of course,
it's it's a win for I Ran. I don't like it.
It's it's an official admission of loss. I don't like it.
It's better than number one, but it's still really bad.
Option three walk away. Yeah, it's still the best three.
I think it's still the best case because there's a
shot we could we could economically, we could survive. It's

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gonna hurt a lot of other people. It's definitely gonna
hairde I ran too. People forget I Ran suffering through this.
It will make it. We're not gonna give them anything.
They hurt, they get worse, and then maybe we'll see
some rebellion in that country which you want. Your previous
caller about liberation, occupation, he's very correct, and they're they're
a good shot at liberation there and I and I
still think with that that that would be a real

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possibility at us having a shot at a win. And
I Ran getting them to fall down. And I think
that's in the fourth option. I just threw it out there.
This is a really ran the auction. But let's look
at the world as it is. You get China, Russia,
US the three spears of world power. Now if we
got now as far as NATO got, I'm sorry. They're
just a by product from the US at this point.
They're just they're a social project of ours. If you

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look at the status of power in this in the
world as it is, you know, if you want to
get these three powers together, you want to get the
world in one page. You give Russia Ukraine, you give
China to one, and we get that ran out of it,
meaning kind of have your hands of the Ukraine, kind
of have your hands of time one in heavier and
I don't like that, but you know what, it's kind
of Russia's already taking Ukraine to hit and Kip really hard,

(22:33):
and I don't see that going in the Ukraine's way
trying to get pretty much walk into Taiwan at this
point if they want it, don't have the fire bullet
and US and that's with Iran. It be nice that
we can actually get something out of that. So that's
I know that sounds a little crazy, but at the
end of the day, that is an ouption. And there
are some real there's some things people can brainstorm, but
Auction one and two terrible. Any other thing I want
to discuss, trying to discuss as quickly as a situation

(22:55):
of this country. Now, I thoroughly disagree with with the
democratic policy, but never will I call my neighbor an enemy.
And the reason I say this is this, the more
we fight each other, call each other terrorist or white supremacist,
or Nazis or a fascist man, Jeff, not only is
that civil war that is playing into I'm an American, I'm
a Christian American who loves this country. Thoroughly love this country,

(23:18):
and I want to see it stay together. Now, I
might disagree with with policies, but I will never look
at my neighbor as the enemy because what that does,
it will make us divide, It will make other I mean,
would I rather be divided amongst my neighbor or have
North Korea coming here with my family? I don't rather
be an American which still has you know, some power
in my own country. So that's the thing, because to me,

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the threats of this we have AI as a threat,
we have biological we have gata function research, we have
nuclear threats, and we have the oligarchy deep state. I mean,
we're fighting each other. I hate it. I hate it.
I don't like it. I see I punch up, I
don't punch lesson right. I think if we did that
more often, we'd have a better society. And when I
look at like, you know, people, whether you like Tucker

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or not, I mean, that's what you've been saying. If
he was, If he people like him were taking over
this party. Right now, you're going to see republic goo
go for. You're going to see immigration get get under control,
which we forgot about that. You're going to see you know,
people's pockets are going to get a little little, little
little better. It's things will change. But number one, we
need to unite. We have to unite on on on

(24:23):
on things that just make common sense. Let's just be honest.
And yeah, we should go to war because if we
continue this, why I told you, there's no good outcome
of that. Nobody wins. Walk away. Try it out. It's
not gonna hurt. I don't know, but that fourth option
I presented, But listen, I'm thinking of everything else but that, man, Jeff,
that first option. Nothing good will come out of that.
It just won't. It hasn't. We've seen it. And this

(24:44):
is on such a higher scale. You know, you said
it best too. You had what ten percent of our
population is of all in World War two. Good luck
with that now, Jeff, that's not happening.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
You're not right, Jim. Look ten percent today. Then it
was fifteen million, you know, under arms. I mean, I'm
not talking about everybody in the civilian economy who were
working around the clock, multiple shifts. Women were working, you know.
You know, obviously able bodied men were serving in the military.
But other than that, you had men working around the clock.

(25:17):
I mean, it was you want to talk about national unity
and cohesion, togetherness, that's what helped us win the war.
It truly was a patriotic war. We haven't been united
in so long, in so long, And look, Jim, this
is you know, let me just put the cards on
the table. We are deeply divided. I know you want

(25:40):
us to love our neighbors. I'm a Christian. I believe
in loving thy neighbor. But your neighbor has to love you.
And whether we want to admit it or not, we
are in a political civil war. We're in an ideological
civil war. We're in a cultural civil war. You look
at the Democratic Party now, it has become so radical,

(26:02):
so extreme, it is an Islamo communist, anti American, frankly
anti Semitic party, and I don't think you can put
that genie back in the bottle. Now. It doesn't mean
you kill them, it doesn't mean you imprison them, It
doesn't mean you strip away their rights. They're Americans, They're

(26:23):
entitled full rights under the law, under the Constitution. But
you have to be aware of the threat, and you
have to beat them at the ballot box, and you
have to understand the nature of the threat. And I
think there's no question when you have the Democrats now
openly rooting for the defeat of the United States and

(26:45):
now bringing in pro terrorist Marxists into their ranks. I'm
not saying pro Palestinian literally supporters of Hamas that openly
call who say America deserved nine to eleven, deserved it,

(27:07):
cheered on nine to eleven. Three thousand Americans dead, and
they're cheering it on or openly calling their words not
mine for blood on the streets. Kill them, kill them,
and don't stop killing them. As Hassan Piker said, kill
the small business owners, kill Maga, kill conservatives, kill people

(27:32):
who voted for Trump. Just kill them, kill them, kill them,
confiscate their property, take everything they have. You're not dealing
now with a democratic movement. You're dealing now with a
totalitarian movement, a national socialist movement, and that is very

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difficult in a democracy or a republic like ours to confront.
It's very difficult. And that's why, to be honest, my
fear increasingly is becoming internal and less external. And look,
I think we have to all of us have to
come to a realization. Joe Biden sold this out. That's

(28:17):
just a fact. Catherine Herriage and I'm probably going to
discuss these stories. I know I'm going to discuss it
sometime this week. But the investigative reporter Catherine Herridge has
now found the smoking gun documents. She has them, They've
been declassified, she has them, and she's now releasing them,
which shows beyond the shadow of a doubt that Joe Biden,

(28:42):
Hunter Biden and the entire Biden family were being extorted
and blackmailed by the Chinese Communist Party because of all
the money they took over the years, and that they
were effectively calling the shots under the Biden They were

(29:02):
the puppet masters pulling the strings. We have fifth columnists
now in the Democratic Party and as president for four
years we had essentially a Manchurian candidate on behalf of Beijing. Well,

(29:22):
what was one of the things that Beijing wanted? A
they wanted to flood our country with illegals, which Biden did.
But the other thing was to hollow out our military.
And what did Biden do? And if you remember, for
years I was saying, stop sending all of our finest
weapons to Ukraine, because you're depleting our stockpile. And god

(29:47):
forbid if we need it when we go to war.
Whether you're for the war or against the war. But
the one thing you don't want to happen to your
country is in the middle of war you have no
more weapons, or you're too low on weapons and you
can't replenish them in time. Well, what happened under Biden

(30:07):
is he depleted our interceptors, FAD missiles, patriot missiles. He
gave away the store to the Ukrainians, to the point
that when Trump got into power, they weren't able to
restock them because these things take time. It's not you know,
like ordering a cheeseburger. It takes years to restok. And

(30:32):
now we're running low on munitions. It's a fact, and
primarily it's because Joe Biden gave away what's sold, gave
a way to Ukraine, so much of our military stockpile.
It's freaking treason. So this is where things stand right now.

(30:57):
I think there's no getting around it. The Ukraine War
ultimately screwed us in so many ways, and the Europeans
were the ones urging us to arm Ukraine to the teeth.
And now we're battling Iran again, whether you're forward or
against it, And where the hell's NATO nowhere? They're all

(31:21):
telling us they're petrified of Putin. That's what they're telling us.
They're telling us he's Hitler. That's all I keep hearing.
You read any newspaper in Europe. Putin's Hitler today, Kiev tomorrow,
Warsaw and then Berlin, and then Rome and then Paris
and then London. So America, please please please send Ukraine

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all the money you can, send them all the weapons
you can. And we sent them hundreds of billions of dollars,
hundreds of billions, and NATO just watched and watched and watched,
and now when we need them to help us, like
a bunch of leeches and parasites and users. They're nowhere

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to be seen. The Europeans again have shown themselves to
be utterly treacherous. And that's why I've been saying now
for a long time, get out of NATO. I understand
why they want it. Why do we want it? When

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you've got a sponge and a user who's bleeding, you
white cut them loose. That's not a friend, that's a parasite.
And so this is where things stand right now. Look,
I think China now will take Taiwan. I mean I

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don't want them to take Taiwan. I think it would
be very bad. They have a vital cutting edge chips industry.
It's going to be economically really bad for US, devastating
in fact, and I think it's gonna shock Asia. I
think it's gonna plunge Asia into a massive geopolitical crisis.
But I think now with the lack of the American deterrent,

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with what we're seeing, with this sort of ambivalence on
whether we can you know, if we can't defeat a
second rank power, I don't know if we scare Russia
and China anymore. And so I think China will make
a move on Taiwan, probably in the next presidency. They're
not going to attest Trump, but I think the next president,

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especially if it's a Democrat, Taiwan is gone, gone, and
the Russians slowly, grindingly are winning the war in Ukraine,
and I think eventually Zelensky is gonna have to sue
for peace. When he's then, he's gonna have to confront

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his people and say, this deal was on the table
years ago, years ago, and now after so many Ukrainian
dead and so much of Ukrainians, Ukraine's infrastructure and their
cities flattened and destroyed, essentially a country in rubble, now

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you decide to sign a deal that you could have
signed three and a half four years ago. And I
think that's going to be the end of NATO. Once
that happens, NATO and their leaders will collapse because they
pushed a phony, fake war against Russia that they knew
Ukraine had no chance of winning, so they fought to

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the last Ukrainian And honestly, these people turn my stomach,
and I think you're looking now at a shakeup in
the new World order. And the question now we have
to ask ourselves is what's our role what's our role
and what are what is America's pop national security core interests?

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We have to define them like adults and then defend them.
But there's no question we are still paying for Biden's presidency.
There's no question we gave so much of our stockpile away.
And now, I mean, I've never seen this halfway through

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a war. It's like, what the interceptors are low? Are
you kidding? And then the worst part is they're leaking.
They're leaking. Biden's former secretary of the Air Force literally
was caught this weekend, huge story leaking all of the

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details about the deficiencies in Air Force one, the new
Air Force one to fund the vulnerabilities in Air Force one.
He was the one that was leaking to the New
York Times. So they're deliberately leaking to weaken and sabotage

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Trump and his presidency and in the process the United States.
I mean, this is freaking treason. So people say, Jeff,
why don't we win our wars? Because during World War II,
or World War One or the Spanish American War, I
could go on and on, we didn't have active fifth

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columnists trying to subvert us at every single turn now
we do. That's why generally my view is don't go
to war. Not because I don't believe in the American
soldier or you know, American forces. Quite the contrary. It's

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because I've seen this movie so many times where the
political leadership will stab the military right in the back.
And then I'm gonna be brutally honest with you, like
I'm in the confessional. I don't talk about this, I
just do it. You have no idea how many events
I do for disabled veterans. I know we do the

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big radio fon every year, and I'm happy to do it.
But I go to so many of them. I give speeches,
I raise money, I shake their hands, I take pictures
with them. It is heart breaking, heart breaking, heartbreaking. But

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you know, Don Rumsfeld and George W. Bush are doing
very well. Obama and Millie and Hillary Clinton, they're doing
very well. They're doing extremely well. So they sent our
men and women to war. It's the men and women
who suffered. It wasn't them. In fact, they emerged much

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richer and much wealthier after their wars six one seven two,
six six, sixty eight sixty eight. So my plea to
President Trump is finish it, finish it, or don't go
to war because I'm tired of this