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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm Sandy Shack. I'm in for Jeff Kooner. It was
a very exciting day yesterday on Capitol Hill. President Elect
Trump rejected the bipartisan spending deal that was drawing a
lot of flack from an array of Republicans with the
government shutdown deadline being tomorrow tomorrow. The deal was negotiated
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by Speaker Johnson and the Democrats to keep the government funded,
and there was a lot of stuff in that CR
Continuing Resolution CR is what they call it for shorthand
that made people very uncomfortable, including, by the way, a
congressional pay raise which they decided to slip in behind
the disaster and agricultural aid basically, and the CR what
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it was going to do is kick the funding deadline
to March fourteenth, meaning that they would have until March
fourteenth to get together and get a real budget, a
continuing resolutions, a continuation it's just a smaller stop gap
kind of spending bill. So that's what was going on
on the Hill when President Trump got involved and the
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Republicans said, yeah, we're not going to vote for the CR,
and boy are the Dems mad. This was Minority Leader
Hakim Jeffries last night, cut number ten, please, Mike.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
House Republicans, House Democrats, Senate Republicans, and Senate Democrats reached
a bipartisan agreement to fund the government, keep it open,
and meet the needs of the American people. We reached
a bipartisan agreement to provide disaster assistance to everyday Americans
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whose lives have been upended and turned upside down as
a result of hurricanes, tornadoes, wildfires, floods, and other types
of extreme weather events. We reached the bipartisan agreement to
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meet the needs of the American people and provide assistance
to farmers, families, children, seniors, veterans, men and women in
uniform and working class Americans.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Sounds like a good deal, doesn't it. If that was
all it covered. That sounds like something you would support,
doesn't it. Wow? Apparently not. The House Republicans cut number
eleven please.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
House Republicans have now unilaterally decided to break a bipartisan
agreement that they made. House Republicans have been ordered to
shut down the government and hurt everyday Americans all across
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this country. House Republicans will now own any harm that
is visited upon the American people that results from a
government shut down or worse. An agreement is an agreement.
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It was bipartisan and there was nothing more to say.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
It sounds pretty bad, doesn't it. Does anybody really believe
that there are House Republicans got orders to hurt the
American people that you know, that's what happened here? You know,
what is the truth of how this came about last night?
And why did President Trump get involved? These are a
lot of questions that need to be answered. The number
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here is six one seven two six six sixty eight
sixty eight six six six six eight sixty eight. Our
text number seven zero for seven zero. Now to understand
what's going on here, I think you need to go
back to yesterday when Speaker Mike Johnson was making the
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rounds basically selling this stopgap spending bill, this compromise that
he had cobbled together with the Democrats cut number fourteen.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Please we start the new Congress in January, when Republicans
are in control and doges on working on all six cylinders,
we're going to be able to scale back the size
and scope of government. But before we get to that point,
remember right now, we only control one half of one
third of the federal government. Remember, Democrats are still in
charge of the Senate and the White.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Okay, so he's got a point. You know, Republicans are
in control a little bit, but not it's not an
overwhelming majority right now, but it will be on the
other side of the inauguration come next So he's saying,
this is just we just want to kick something over
cut fourteen A.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Please.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
We decided, even though we don't normally like short term
stopgap funding measures, it made sense here. Instead of doing,
you know, Chuck Schumer and Biden spending for twenty twenty five,
we pushed this decision into March. It'll be March fourteenth.
So the feature there is that we'll have Republican controlled
Congress and Trump back in the White House and we
get to decide spending for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Okay. So essentially what he's saying here is this is
a necessary evil, that a CR Continuing resolution is necessary
because it's better to have a stopgap bill where you
make some compromises with the Democrats and then when you
come to negotiate a full fledged budget, you don't have
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to make that many deals with them because now you
will have the majority. So that's he's saying that to
the smaller bill now is better keeps everybody working, keeps
the lights on, and then we'll have more power when
we get to the bigger bill. Is he right?
Speaker 5 (06:07):
You know?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Does that make sense to you? The House doop the
House Republican members, we're gonna sign it, even though they
were really unhappy about it. I have a little montage
of some of the House members, including I think it's
Ralph Norman of South Carolina and Chip Roy of Texas.
You know, congressman, those types of Congressmen who are very
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vocal when they're upset. They did not like the Continuing
Resolution Cut number twelve. It's a total dumpster fire. I
think it's garbage.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
I think that it's shameful that people that celebrate Doge
coming in I can't.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
And yet we're going to vote for another billion dollars
to be added to the deficit.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
And so.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
You know, it's ironic. It's opposite what the Dose Commission
is trying to do.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
So I'm I'm voting for it, though I'm not. We're
just fundamentally unserious about spending it. As long as you
got a blank check, you can't shrink government. If you
can't shrink government. You can't live free. They don't like
this at all. They're very unhappy with this. And what
they're doing is they're calling out the fact that they
think Speaker Johnson made too many deals with the Democrats.
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If what Johnson said was true, that you make some
deals now so that you have more control when you
really need to do it next next spring, when it's
a big bill, when it really affects a lot of things,
then it's worth it. But in their view, and they're
in on all the meetings, he made too many of
those deals. What he did was he created a bloated,
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out of control spending bill that even though it is
in fact short term, it does a lot of damage.
And it was effectually crafted by Senate Majority Leader Chuck
Humor Or for him basically in order to get the
Democratic support for it. It turned out that this particular
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continued Continuing Resolution is essentially a gift to special interests
and those DC swamp creatures. It looks like what they
were doing is because Donald Trump is coming in in January,
and because he's going to, you know, stop their ability
to feed at the pork barrel buffet, they wanted to
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get as much as they possibly could in now, and
so it sounds like they hung Speaker Johnson out to
dry as they you know, as they're looking to squeeze
out everything they can before they're out the door. Because
remember it's the lame duck Congress. Most of them are
gone or a lot of them are gone in at
the at the end of this year. Now, this particular
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cr appears to be a conglomeration of everything that the
voters rejected in the November election. It's got bloated, bloated budgets,
reckless spending. It's got giveaways. It hands billions overseas, including
more funding for Ukraine. It ignores the crises that we
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face at home. There's nothing in it that's going to
fix the border or it's going to tackle inflation. It's
a big win for big pharma. And you know, despite
you know the fact that American people, you know, King
Jeffreys was so concerned about the American people and that
cut that I played, despite our demand for you know,
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reforms and lower drug prices, something that Biden administration says
they're good at, which I debate, but they claim they
are and hold the healthcare industry accountable. This bill allows
big Pharma to maintain a grip on Medicare and healthcare policy.
It doesn't address the failures of Medicare Part D. It
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prioritizes big farmers profits over the well being of Americans.
It's an example of how Humor and his fellow swamp
creatures are trying to preserve a very corrupt status quo
at our expense, at the expense of taxpayers. You know,
it seems that what they want to do is try
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the hands or tie the hands of the incoming public
majority by trying to slip stuff through now while while
they still have the ability to vote. And you know,
these are incredibly high stakes. If they lock in a
massive spending increase and some of these bad policies now,
then Republicans will lose the leverage they need in twenty
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twenty five to properly clean up the mess that President
Biden has left. No, so this plan of the Democrats,
as obvious, passes as much of the Democrats' agenda as
possible before the Republican majority can take control. And if
Republicans allow this, they will find themselves unable to go
after critical issues like border security. We are talking about
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the dilemma of the one one hundred and eighteenth Congress
to pass a horribly bloated Democrat goody laden Continuing Resolution
which will essentially lock in the massive spending increases that
the Democrats want, and it would also affect the leverage
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that the new Republican Congress needs to when they come
in in January to properly, you know, effect change to
clean up the Biden administration chaos and mess that's left behind.
So what they're trying to do in this Continuing Resolution,
because it's their last shot before they leave, is to
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pass as much of the Democrat agenda as possible before
the Republicans take control. And if Republicans allow this, they're
going to find it very difficult to deal with issues
like border security and fiscal responsibility and healthcare and et cetera,
all the stuff that we really need to do. So
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they need to come up with a Plan B. There
needs to be a Plan B. And what is that
Plan B? Well, Congress needs to pass what they call
a skinny cr that does the bare minimum to keep
the government running while preserving the new Congress and President
Trump's leverage to address the issues that they need to.
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It's critical really to advancing President Trump's agenda and affecting
those disastrous policies that Biden and his group left behind.
And let's face face, fast face facts, what the Republicans
are looking at right now. The base is watching, We
are watching you, and I are watching. And I think
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the American people made it really clear in November that
we were done with the nonsense. We are just in
mood for this kind of bullbleap. We want reform, we
want it as fast as humanly possible, and this bill
is the antithesis of reform. The voters spoke really loud
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and clear. They want a government that's accountable, physically responsible,
and focused on real solutions, not more giveaways to big
Pharma and Ukraine and et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
That is what we're looking at right now. And it's not,
by the way, And that's what you heard the eyre.
You heard that in those House Republicans when I played
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you that montage. But they're not the only ones who
are really angry. Senator Ram Paul of Kentucky has weighed in.
He's tweeting some or xing, however you put it, posting
on x some really unpleasant stuff. He says, I hope
to see Speaker Johnson grow a spine, but this bill
full of pork shows he's a weak weak man. The
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debt will continually grow. Ultimately the dollar will fail. Democrats
are cluelest and big government Republicans are complicit. A sad
day for America. And you've got Mike Lee of Utah
said that while many who support Trump's Department of Government Efficiency,
Doge failed to translate that public support into action when
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they should have done. So, you know, he says, they
think that Doge is going to fix whatever they do. Now,
well there's going to be things that even you know,
Doge can't fit basically so or can't fix. So I
think they need to to, particularly, you know, give up
on that. You've also got Josh Holly. I like Josh Holly.
He's from Missouri. He's they they're very plain spoken in Missouri.
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That's kind of their state motto. But he basically said
that the Continuing Resolution essentially was being delayed because nobody
had a chance to properly vet it. And he said,
by law, Congress is supposed to pass a budget. They're
supposed to do it in September. In ten separate budget
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bills so they can debate them, read them past them,
and they didn't do that, and obviously they blew right
through the deadline, so they got to the end of
the year. They had this huge pile up. That's what
they were counting on, and the fact that there's no
time left, that nobody will have time to read this.
That's what they wanted and that was part of their
plan to slip all of this through. So this is
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what we are currently being faced with. Should the Republicans
stop the bill and let the government shut down? That
was the question on the table. And while that was
being debated, Elon Musk showed up on Capitol Hill and
the game got even more interesting because Elon Musk, as
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we all know, the incoming head of DOGE, a right
hand man of Donald Trump, came out against House Speaker
Johnson's going forward with the government funding bill, going so
far as to threaten lawmakers who voted for it by
being primary. He posted on x this bill should not
pass and said any member of the House or Senate
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who votes for this outrageous spending bill deserves to be
voted out in two years. We're talking about the fact
that the Democrat pork Trough's cr Continuing Resolution was stopped
last night. In his tracks, how did that happen? Well,
the turn against Speaker Johnson the deal with Jeffries and
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the Dems began when Elon Musk posted on x saying
that you know, no, no, no, this is bad. Anybody
who supports this, we're going to primary you. You know
you're going to be out in two years, so don't
support it. So Speaker Johnson appeared unconvinced that this was
a problem because after that tax the post, he was
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asked about it. You know, how do you feel about
Elon coming out against your deal? And he said, I'm
not worried. He said. Elon and Vivac, the two heads
of DOGE, Vivek Ramaswami and I are on a text
chain together and I was explaining to them the background
of this. Vivek and I talked till midnight and he said, look,
I get it. We understand you're in an impossible position.
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And Johnson is talking about how he told him we
got to get this done because he was the key.
By doing this, we're clearing the decks, We're setting up
for Trump to come in roaring back with America First Agenda.
That's what we're going to run with Gusto beginning January third,
when we start the new Congress. Now, if that were true,
you know, he has a good point. I think he is.
He is not correct over the effect of this spending
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belt and apparently Elon Musk thought so too. So Speaker
Johnson was feeling pretty good even after the post. But
it turns out that Musk was just the opening act
on this movement against the deal that he has Donald Trump. Yesterday,
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President elect Donald Trump came out against the spending bill,
siding with Elon Musk's crusade. President Trump made the announcement
that he is opposed to the continuing Resolution, he did
not like it one little bit, and then later in
the afternoon, Vice President elect and Senator J. D. Vance
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with the President, released a joint statement declaring that politicians
should pass a streamlined bill that doesn't give Democrats everything
they want. The text the joint statement says, Republicans want
to support our farmers, pay for disaster relief, and set
up our country for success in twenty twenty five, all
of which I think we can all agree upon. The
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only way to do that is with a temporary funding
bill without Democrat giveaways, combined with an increase in the
debt sealing. He says, anything else is a betrayal of
our country. I think that kind of puts it in
a shell, doesn't it. That kind of explains what exactly
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is going on here and why they don't like it,
and what happened. It stopped all the support, the reluctant
support I have to add for the bill stopped. And
that's when you saw hi Keem Jeffries come out spitting mad,
just apoplectic that the cr was about to be stopped
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and threatening saying that this will destroy Americans and the
government will have to turn the lights out. That's a lot.
That's a lot to take in. Now here's the interesting
thing about this. That's a huge turnaround that President Trump
was able to affect. He's not even sworn into office yet.
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Should he have gotten involved in this, should he have
made his wish is known to the Congress through Elon
Musk and then himself and JD Vance. Is that appropriate
given the fact that he has not sworn in yet,
that he won't be sworn until January twentieth, I'm going
to make that the Pole Question of the Day here,
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which is brought to you. The Pole question is sponsored
by Mario's Roofing, Siding and Windows and you can take
it on x at the Kooner Report. It's also at
WRKO dot com slash Cooner. The question is should Donald
Trump have influenced the spending the vote before he's been
sworn in? Interesting because there's no doubt that it was
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he who stopped it without it, There's not a doubt
in my mind, nor there should be in anybody's mind,
that Donald Trump was able to stop that resolution. Was
that a good thing? And should he have done it?
Let's go to the phone lines again. The number is
two sixty six sixty eight sixty eight. Greg from NASHAUA.
Welcome to the Kooner Report. How are you, sir?
Speaker 4 (20:58):
A long time, so talky Hanta Christmas and hopefully we
get a Festivus miracle to voote.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Well from your lips to God's ear and whoever else
is there.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Greg, I regard this as a minor Festivis miracle because,
let's face it, h that package A lot of the
Republicans that went along with it. Are we either stupid
enough to verify but they never should have been in office,
or we're simply not paying attention, or they are cooperative
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with our energies. And frankly, I think November fifth pointed
out that we're rather shick and tired of their games.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Well, without a doubt, I think that's true, Greg that
November the November fifth showed that, you know, uh uh,
we're done. We're done with the We're done with the
business as usual. And I think that's that's what both
Elon Musk and President Trump are responding to.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Don't you think I have no problem at all with
this possibly going to a shutdown because the last several
times this has happened, it was always the establishment Republicans
that blinked, they've got the house equivalent of Mitch McConn
It was always people but either had skin in the
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game if the game goes against you personally, or they were,
as they stated it early, they were clueless, they were feckless,
and they and they were spineless. And I'm you know,
I'm okay with okay, time to go with some of
you guys. I like it when I like it when
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problem people in both parties out themselves, because you could
think of that as the trash taking itself out for you.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Yes, you could, as a matter of fact, that's a
good way put it. You could. You could, in fact
think of it that way. They're outing themselves. Well, I
think I mentioned it a little bit before, Greg. One
of the issues here is the fact that they know
that they're not going to be able to get any
of this stuff passed with the Republican Congress and a
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Republican in the White House and a Republican majority in
the Senate, and so it's a hail Mary passed to
get what they want. And the problem is that, you know,
Speaker Johnson caught it. He caught the ball, and it's like,
instead of just letting it, you know, bounce into the
end zone on its own, he caught it and said, okay, fine,
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And that I think, and I think a lot of
people trusted Johnson and thought the stuff that was in
the cr would be you know, okay, it's necessary, evil
stuff just basically we have to get through. But it
was a huge cr It was fifteen hundred pages, so
people were trying to get through it and find out
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what's in it, and the more they found out, the
more they were what I'm voting for what I mean,
it just came out yesterday that one of the things
in there is a pay raise for Congress. I mean,
I'm sorry. I know people that have to choose between
keeping their lights on and buying food. And you're giving
yourself a pay raise after you have created this horrible
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mess and you have been you know, puttsing around and
not doing anything to help people for four years, and
now you want to pay raise. And I think it's
when you find, you know, passages in the bill like that,
and they're buried very deeply, so you have to go
deep into the bill to find stuff. And who had
time for that? Because they literally, here's the bill, bang,
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let's vote on it. It was kind of like a Nancy
Pelosi moment. You have to pass the bill to find
out what's in it. Remember that famous line that she
said when Obamacare was being passed and you know, oh
my god, didn't work. Sorry then, but we apparently haven't
lost any lost any or learned anything, I should say.
Josh Holly pointed that out, because no, no, they crammed
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everything in. This was supposed to be ten separate bills
that we could debate and vote on one by one
by one by one, and instead they put they cobbled
it together and hid stuff in it. And as we
find more of the stuff in there, like, wait a minute,
what do you mean, big farmer can't what do you
mean that? That's what's happened? And Elon Musk and JD.
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Vance and Donald Trump said no, and the most important
of those, of course being Donald Trump saying no, because
if Donald Trump had not weighed in, I think Elon
Musk would have gotten a lot of pr for stomping
around Congress. But I don't think anything would have happened.
It was the fact that President Trump and Vice President
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Vance issued a statement saying yeah, no, no, no, not
going to happen.
Speaker 7 (25:51):
No.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
That's what gave Republicans who didn't want to tow the
party line, who didn't want to go along with Speaker
John's and gave them cover to say, yeah, okay, no
he says no, we all say now. So I don't
have a problem with President Trump flexing his muscles in
this particular way. But a lot of people do. They say,
he's not elected yet, why is he interfering? What do
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you say to those people, Greg.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
I say that that's exactly why we elected him because
we need some interference on our behalf the outdoing administration.
As you're helping them, as you're being helped of a door,
you may notice that they've been starting as many fires
and causing as much disruption and setting as many trip
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wires as they possibly can anyone that's signed onto this,
Like I stated earlier, the longer they object to it,
the more they out themselves gay for interfereres, gay for
reflex coming in, I want more of it.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Well, I think while the new Congress starts in January,
and then the president sworn in January twentieth, so I
don't think he'll have to be interferenced as much as action.
We're talking about how President Trump has upended the efforts
to pass a stopgap spending bill to keep the government
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funded through March. While there was a lot of stuff
in that bill. By the way, the bill also had
providing disaster aid and farm aid in it, but the
President says that while soon to be sworn in President
the President Alex says that we should pass the streamline
spending bill that doesn't give Chuck Schumer and the Democrats
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everything that they want. He and JD. Vance issued a
statement that said, the only way to do that is
with a temporary funding bill without the Democrat giveaways in it,
you know, combined with an increase in the debt ceiling.
So he's saying, I'm happy to pass the CR. I'm
happy to or have you passed the CR. I'm happy
to have you do it so that there's farm aid
in there and there's disastert in there, but the rest
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of the stuff has got to go. And if the
bill has not passed, has the bill has to go
through both chambers of Congress, the House and the Senate
and be signed by President Biden before midnight tomorrow night.
That's that's the deadline that we are under right now
with this. That's that's what that's what's about to happen.
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So is he right? Should we let the government shut down?
Because that's what's going to happen. The government's going to
shut down if the bill isn't passed. Is President Trump right?
Should we let the government shut down? And should he
have gotten involved before he's even sworn in. He's not
sworn in yet. He's got another month before he can
he can go as president and make his wishes known.
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He doesn't hold any office at the moment, and neither
does Elon Musk for that matter, neither one of them
hold an office. Although President Trump he is in fact
the incoming president, and he was voted for by the
American people, and his platform was voted for by the
American people. Should he have gotten involved, Let's talk to
Dave in Pennsylvania. Dave, welcome to WRKO. How are you, sir, Candy?
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How are you?
Speaker 6 (29:15):
With Shirston PA corresponding? How you doing?
Speaker 1 (29:18):
I'm fine? How are you doing?
Speaker 8 (29:20):
Good?
Speaker 6 (29:20):
Good, Merry Christmas in the happy New Year? And you
and Mike and all the how wor you do? Listen
is handy. I'm going to tell you a little secret
discontinuing resolution, the stop gap and all that. I'm a veteran.
I she'll get my VA claimed no matter if the
government shuts down or not. And they don't deserve a
pay raise. Second of all, So if they want to
pay raise, shut down the government, show that they get
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strong conservatives of values that we voted for in November fifth,
and then maybe we'll think about getting the pay raise.
But Sandy is another journey secret. All these people that
are in championships, so let's say the lead Democrat the
lead Republican in either chamber of the Congress the Senate
of the House. They get a bu up and pay
if they're the lead person on a certain committee. So
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there's their raise, you know.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Yeah, No, that's that's right, that is their race. You know,
that's just one of the things, by the way, in
their Dave, that's objectionable. You've also got stuff like in
Maryland you have the the bridge that the Key Bridge
that got knocked down, and Maryland's congressional delegation kind of
wields a lot of power in Congress because they are
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and they're all Democrats. They're on most of the spending committees,
which you know, are the things, are the committees that
ease the path for regional priorities. And Senate leaders are
very eager to send Ben Carden, the Democrat of Maryland,
into retirement because he's a retirement with funding for the
Key Bridge, and the cost to rebuild that bridge is
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about two billion dollars, so instead of like Maryland and
in some of this and their lawsuit from the company
kicking and some, they want the federal government to cover
it all. And it's a gift to ben Carden and
that's what that's in the bill too. That's there. There's
also a deal in there to transfer control of r
K RFK Stadium to d C And Maryland is also
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securing the transfer of an Air National Guard squadron from
the district, so they're doing a swap that we're paying
for too. Again that's Maryland getting this. These are all
these are pork barrel things from Maryland. That's this is
the kind of stuff that's in there, very specific, very specific,
uh money transfers that help very powerful democrats, and they're
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trying to slide them in quickly. That's the kind of
thing we're looking at. Now. There's also good stuff in there,
you know. There's there is money for FEMA. There is
money for the Agricultural Department and aid for farmers and ranchers,
but it's massive. I think the FEMA is at twenty
nine billion, the agricult departments at twenty one billion, and
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it's ten billion aid to farmers and ranchers. Now, I
am all for giving aid for FEMA, and I have
no problem with aiding farmers and ranchers, but you don't
have to do it to that tune in this Bill.
You can give them aid what they need to get
through until the spring when this stuff can be debated
and more realistically assessed, as opposed to just throwing all
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these dollars at them. That's the kind of thing that's
in there, Dave, and that's driving me crazy. How about
you and Sandy.
Speaker 6 (32:32):
One more thing, there's also that pod of going to
the State Department, Like something about censoring conservative talk show
people is something. There's some something that censored a bunch
of people that's going to the State Department. I forget
what they call it, off ind but I heard Mangino
talking about it, and also Jeff Let's Digest today.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Okay, so, but that's not in this that's not in
the continuing resolution. That's that's right.
Speaker 6 (32:56):
Well, that's something else.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
But yeah, so but that's but But if it were,
at least Donald Trump has stopped it at this point
in time, and that to me. So so you you
are good with President Trump getting involved, even though he's
not sworn out sworn in yet.
Speaker 6 (33:09):
Yes I am, because we have a mandate. We won
November fifth, and the Democrats got to understand they got their
butts kicked, and Kamala's got to shut up in the tackling,
and we won, Sandy, and we have a mandated mandates.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
You know, yeah, I know, I know, I absolutely know.
Thank you for the call, Dave. I appreciate it very much.
When a caller drops off, it means the line has
opened up for you. Six one seven two sixty six
sixty eight sixty eight is the number here. The text
number is seven zero four seven zero On the text
line six one seven says Sandy, Are you guys serious
You don't give these people their raises and better pay,
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then we wonder why they're all corrupt making money on
the side and doing deals. They need to go up
and corruption needs to stop. That's how you fix these problems.
So you want to pay them for doing a bad
job so that we can get more people like them.
That's what you're looking for. By the way, Congressman, you know,
it's not like they make fifty grand a year. They
make a decent living, there's no doubt about it. And
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they can do speaking fees. There's a lot of stuff
they can do that all legit without being corrupt. So
they can make more money without doing correct It requires
them to make an effort and make work. But I
don't think they should be being rewarded for sitting on
their ass for the past four years and doing the
abysmal job that our Congress has done. To the point,
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where've you seen inflation? When's the last time you went shopping?
That's not just Biden. That's Biden and his congress. You
know that's what has happened. They are responsible for that,
and you want to reward them so we can get
more people like them. I don't agree with you one
hundred at all, even a little bit. Six Oho three
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says Trump is potus. Now, well, it appears so because
he made he issued a statement and a continuing resolution
resolution deal fell apart within hours, it fell apart. That's
pretty impressive as far as I can see. Let's go
to another Dave in Pennsylvania. Dave, Welcome to WRKO. How
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are you, Good.
Speaker 8 (35:10):
Morning, Sandy, Merry Christmas, and thank you for having me
on the shack attack.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Well, thank you, sir for joining. I appreciate that very much.
Speaker 8 (35:18):
A shack attack. I love that.
Speaker 6 (35:20):
So a couple quick points. What they're trying to do is.
Speaker 8 (35:24):
Trump proof twenty twenty five, or at least figinning of
it by front loading that with a debt and the giveaways.
But some of the programs in there besides the pay
raise and the bridge. I believe the thing about the
State Department is in there. One way or the other.
There's DEEI provisions in there. There's a provision in there
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not only for the raises, but to protect members of
Congress from prosecution from acts that they've done in the
last four years. I need it six committee for example.
So they're trying to Trump proof this spend as much
money as they can. The Biden administration is already trying
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to spend as much money in their appropriations budget to
put Trump in a hole right out the gate. And
that's the main part of that. Would speak at Johnson.
You can't you can't negotiate with a Democrat or compromise
because compromise to them is my way or no way.
And if he thinks if he compromises now with them,
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they were going to compromise with him in twenty twenty five,
he's got He's very naive. His speakership is going to
be on the line. They need someone with some backbone.
And that's pretty much all I got to say about that.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Well, you know, it's interesting a text number a texter
and the text number is seven zero four to seven
zero if you want to weigh and made made the
suggestion to pull to pull Johnson and put Matt Gates
in his speaker. What do you think of that?
Speaker 8 (37:00):
Well, that makes sense because you don't have to be
an elected member of the House of Representatives to be
the speaker. And wouldn't that be a nice little bit
of revenge there? And I got a question for you
on Michael. I'd like to know what broadcast microphone you're using,
because I feel like your board settings up for jet
but not for you. Okay, if that makes any sense,
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If you use it an s M seven B, you
might want to put a cloud a cloud glifter in
there to bump you up about ten dB because your
voice is very soft.
Speaker 7 (37:32):
Okay, well very.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Loud, that's true. My voice is very soft, especially compared
to him. Well, you know what, I thank you for
the suggestion, and I will, in fact mention it to engineering.
I appreciate that very much. Dave, thanks for the call.
Let's go to Mark in Medford. Mark, welcome to WRKO.
How are you, sir?
Speaker 6 (37:50):
God more than Sandy?
Speaker 7 (37:51):
And I think your voice sounds perfectly fine, thank you,
mart Well, Sandy, this is the Democrats. Every time there's
a bill they want to put out, yes, they always
sneak some stuff into it. And the fact that they
want to give themselves a raise in this bill is
absolutely as nine. They don't deserve a raise. In fact,
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they deserve a pay cut. So yeah, I agree with
Trump shut it down. But you know what, Sandy, what
cracks me.
Speaker 6 (38:20):
Up is this this.
Speaker 7 (38:22):
You know, they don't agree with the Republicans, and they're
going to turn it around and blame the Republicans if
something bad happens towards the American people. But isn't this
the same Democratic party that for the last four years
when they talked about democracy in order to save democracy, democracy,
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we must destroy democracy. So when you called it.
Speaker 6 (38:48):
Like a necessary evil earlier, isn't that the same thing?
Speaker 7 (38:51):
But now it's okay, Now it's not okay?
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Yeah, yes, ye, yes, indeed I would agree with that assessment.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Mark.
Speaker 5 (39:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
So yeah, So it's did you have did you have
any problem? By the way, Mark in in Donald Trump
going up on the on the hill or not going
up to hell, but issuing a statement basically interfering would
be one word for it. I don't necessarily like that word.
But interfering with the business of Congress before he is
sworn into office.
Speaker 7 (39:24):
Not not one bit sandy. I mean, why why should
he be stuck with something they're going to create before
they get out of office. And this is the only
reason why they're doing it. They're gonna try and squeeze
every penny they can out of us.
Speaker 6 (39:38):
Yeah, before they ousted.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
What about Elon Musk. Elon Musk is not elected. He's
never been elected to anything. He went up there and
he was, you know, basically threatening members of Congress, saying,
if you vote for this, we're gonna primary you. Did
you have a problem with that?
Speaker 7 (39:57):
Good for him?
Speaker 4 (39:58):
And then.
Speaker 6 (40:00):
I loved Elon Musk in a non sexual way.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Yeah, I need a T shirt that says that I
love Elon Musk and I adore Elon Musk, and and
so I have huge respect for him. And you know,
it's tough not to admire a guy who basically comes
from nothing and makes himself the richest man on the
face of the earth and builds rockets as a hobby,
you know. I mean, he's going to Mars because he
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had nothing else to do. Last weekend. So that's basically
that that's just genius and he thinks outside the box,
which I really respect. We'll see how And you know,
the interesting thing to me is that you have two
of these geniuses. I think Donald Trump is a genius
on one on many levels. I mean I think he is.
He thinks outside the box, which is what makes I
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think the American people resonate with him and starties Elon Musk.
I'll be interested to see how long they stay copasatic
with each other, because usually huge intellects and personalities like
that have trouble in the long run working together because
they start to you know, chafe or butt heads. But
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so far they seem to be on the same page.
And what's really interesting to me, Mark, is that Elon
Musk used to be a Democrat, and was when he
had all his businesses in California, and it wasn't until
the pandemic and he saw the draconi and at the
same time hypocritical regulations and rules and almost martial law
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that the governor of California did. That made him go yeah, no,
and he took his businesses to Texas and that's when
he started. I don't think he cared about politics right
up until then, and then when it started to affect
its business, he's like, is this what's going being? Oh
my god. And then he's had this evolution to now
where he's going to be a vice chair of DOGE
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and he is now Donald Trump's right hand man. But
I thought of him yesterday. I've heard a lot of
people decides the fact that Elon Musk was doing this
lobbying on the Hill. But here's the thing, Mark, Capitol
Hill is overrun with lobbyists, special interest groups everywhere. So
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I've never heard any of these people that I heard
last night on CNN or MSNBC who were criticizing Elon
Musk for trying to influence Congress. I've never heard any
of them criticize the lobbyists for a defense contractor, or
the cigarette or the tobacco industry, or big pharma. They're
up there. When's the last time you heard anybody criticized.
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They're up them asking Congress for something.
Speaker 7 (42:39):
Well, Sandy, think about this for a second. Okay, what
Trump got elected the first time in twenty sixteen. He
got elected because he wasn't a politician. He spoke his
mind and he was a businessman. He's a billionaire, and
he's a billionaire for a reason. Okay, Now you have
the biggest billionaire in the whole world being his right
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hand man. What more can you ask for for the
next four years, hopefully eight, even though it's gonna be
without Trump, but hopefully eight if Elon must decides to
stay in there, if jd. Vance becomes a president.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Yeah, no, I agree, I agree. Thank you so much
for the call, Mark, I really appreciate it. I hope
you have a great, great Christmas or holiday, whatever it
is that you whether it's Christmas, Hanukkah, Festivus, whatever you like, Kwanza.
I hope you have a wonderful one. Let's go to
Dan in New Hampshire. Dan, Welcome to w RKO. How
are you, sir?
Speaker 6 (43:35):
Thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 4 (43:37):
Dandy, You're welcome.
Speaker 5 (43:39):
You're doing a great job. By the way, President Trump
is absolutely right. First of all, wasn't it as far
as hiking Jeffrey h Talk blaming the Republicans for not
funding the hurricanes and floods? Wasn't it President fighting in
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the Democrat who refused to fund Seema? And let's not
forget Okay, speak of Mike Johnson. Okay, hasn't been doing
his job. He hasn't been voting on single subject bills.
Both speakers him, Mike Johnson and Jeffries Haquem Jeffries are
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both funded by the dirtiest of packs AI pack. Okay,
this is a pack that funds people, corrupt politicians on
both sides of the aisle. Mitch McConnell, Chuck's Huma corrupt,
Joe Biden, Mike Pence, Mitt Rondi's Adam Schiff.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (44:37):
So, let's why Trump is right.
Speaker 5 (44:40):
Because it violates the Budget Controlled Acts of nineteen seventy four.
It's a federal law that says that you were required
to have a balanced budget mess the inn. Within that
balanced budget, you're supposed to vote on single subject spending
bills that appropriate dollars the various agencies of government.
Speaker 4 (45:03):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (45:04):
So no the yards, no omnibus, no more money for
other countries.
Speaker 6 (45:10):
They've been violating the law. Okay.
Speaker 5 (45:13):
And this goes back all the way to speak a
new Gingrich who was the first to start bundle bills
in nineteen ninety six. He's the godfather of it. Okay,
And it was billions and billions of dollars. Okay, a
fork fight up and one bill, but one of up
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and down vote is not doing the job of the Congress.
It leaves everybody unaccountable for their vote. And by voting
on single subject bills, this makes everybody accountable because you
can't say I didn't vote for this and I voted
for that.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Well, that's what they were supposed to do, Dan, that
was the deal. They were supposed to do ten of
these bills, and they were all going to be debated
on and voted for, so you could see what was
in everyone. But they put up, but the down put
them off. They put them off, and they put them off,
and they put them off so that you had to
do it all at once to get them done before
the end of the year. Thinking they were thinking, I'm
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sure that the government shutdown was a big enough stick
that it would make people just vote for the bill.
So the government didn't shut down, because nobody wants a
government shutdown over the holidays, over Christmas, over the New Year,
you know, nobody wants that, and so that's what they
were hoping for, and instead you have Donald Trump going
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shut it down. And I agree with him. I think
it's okay to shut down the government until I don't
know till what would we have to do it until
he gets into office? Is that what it's going to
be if they shut the government down? Will it stay
shut down until January twenty? That's a month away? Can
we do it?
Speaker 6 (46:49):
Can we?
Speaker 1 (46:49):
Can we wait a month before before we reopen up
knowing that, or will it take just till the new
Congress comes in, which is basically two weeks away, so
we'd only be shut down for two weeks. We've done
that before? Can we do it again? Is this going
to distress your life in any way that you would
not support it? Does it affect your friends, your family,
I'm Sandy Shack. I'm in for Jeff Kooner. It was
a very exciting day yesterday on Capitol Hill. President Elect
Trump rejected the bipartisan spending deal that was drawing a
lot of flack from an array of Republicans with the
government shutdown deadline being tomorrow tomorrow. The deal was negotiated
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by Speaker Johnson and the Democrats to keep the government funded,
and there was a lot of stuff in that CR
Continuing Resolution CR is what they call it for shorthand
that made people very uncomfortable, including, by the way, a
congressional pay raise which they decided to slip in behind
the disaster and agricultural aid basically, and the CR what
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it was going to do is kick the funding deadline
to March fourteenth, meaning that they would have until March
fourteenth to get together and get a real budget, a
continuing resolutions, a continuation it's just a smaller stop gap
kind of spending bill. So that's what was going on
on the Hill when President Trump got involved and the
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Republicans said, yeah, we're not going to vote for the CR,
and boy are the Dems mad. This was Minority Leader
Hakim Jeffries last night, cut number ten, please, Mike.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
House Republicans, House Democrats, Senate Republicans, and Senate Democrats reached
a bipartisan agreement to fund the government, keep it open,
and meet the needs of the American people. We reached
a bipartisan agreement to provide disaster assistance to everyday Americans
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whose lives have been upended and turned upside down as
a result of hurricanes, tornadoes, wildfires, floods, and other types
of extreme weather events. We reached the bipartisan agreement to
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meet the needs of the American people and provide assistance
to farmers, families, children, seniors, veterans, men and women in
uniform and working class Americans.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Sounds like a good deal, doesn't it. If that was
all it covered. That sounds like something you would support,
doesn't it. Wow? Apparently not. The House Republicans cut number
eleven please.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
House Republicans have now unilaterally decided to break a bipartisan
agreement that they made. House Republicans have been ordered to
shut down the government and hurt everyday Americans all across
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this country. House Republicans will now own any harm that
is visited upon the American people that results from a
government shut down or worse. An agreement is an agreement.
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It was bipartisan and there was nothing more to say.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
It sounds pretty bad, doesn't it. Does anybody really believe
that there are House Republicans got orders to hurt the
American people that you know, that's what happened here? You know,
what is the truth of how this came about last night?
And why did President Trump get involved? These are a
lot of questions that need to be answered. The number
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here is six one seven two six six sixty eight
sixty eight six six six six eight sixty eight. Our
text number seven zero for seven zero. Now to understand
what's going on here, I think you need to go
back to yesterday when Speaker Mike Johnson was making the
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rounds basically selling this stopgap spending bill, this compromise that
he had cobbled together with the Democrats cut number fourteen.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Please we start the new Congress in January, when Republicans
are in control and doges on working on all six cylinders,
we're going to be able to scale back the size
and scope of government. But before we get to that point,
remember right now, we only control one half of one
third of the federal government. Remember, Democrats are still in
charge of the Senate and the White.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Okay, so he's got a point. You know, Republicans are
in control a little bit, but not it's not an
overwhelming majority right now, but it will be on the
other side of the inauguration come next So he's saying,
this is just we just want to kick something over
cut fourteen A.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Please.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
We decided, even though we don't normally like short term
stopgap funding measures, it made sense here. Instead of doing,
you know, Chuck Schumer and Biden spending for twenty twenty five,
we pushed this decision into March. It'll be March fourteenth.
So the feature there is that we'll have Republican controlled
Congress and Trump back in the White House and we
get to decide spending for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Okay. So essentially what he's saying here is this is
a necessary evil, that a CR Continuing resolution is necessary
because it's better to have a stopgap bill where you
make some compromises with the Democrats and then when you
come to negotiate a full fledged budget, you don't have
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to make that many deals with them because now you
will have the majority. So that's he's saying that to
the smaller bill now is better keeps everybody working, keeps
the lights on, and then we'll have more power when
we get to the bigger bill. Is he right?
Speaker 5 (06:07):
You know?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Does that make sense to you? The House doop the
House Republican members, we're gonna sign it, even though they
were really unhappy about it. I have a little montage
of some of the House members, including I think it's
Ralph Norman of South Carolina and Chip Roy of Texas.
You know, congressman, those types of Congressmen who are very
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vocal when they're upset. They did not like the Continuing
Resolution Cut number twelve. It's a total dumpster fire. I
think it's garbage.
Speaker 6 (06:43):
I think that it's shameful that people that celebrate Doge
coming in I can't.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
And yet we're going to vote for another billion dollars
to be added to the deficit.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
And so.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
You know, it's ironic. It's opposite what the Dose Commission
is trying to do.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
So I'm I'm voting for it, though I'm not. We're
just fundamentally unserious about spending it. As long as you
got a blank check, you can't shrink government. If you
can't shrink government. You can't live free. They don't like
this at all. They're very unhappy with this. And what
they're doing is they're calling out the fact that they
think Speaker Johnson made too many deals with the Democrats.
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If what Johnson said was true, that you make some
deals now so that you have more control when you
really need to do it next next spring, when it's
a big bill, when it really affects a lot of things,
then it's worth it. But in their view, and they're
in on all the meetings, he made too many of
those deals. What he did was he created a bloated,
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out of control spending bill that even though it is
in fact short term, it does a lot of damage.
And it was effectually crafted by Senate Majority Leader Chuck
Humor Or for him basically in order to get the
Democratic support for it. It turned out that this particular
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continued Continuing Resolution is essentially a gift to special interests
and those DC swamp creatures. It looks like what they
were doing is because Donald Trump is coming in in January,
and because he's going to, you know, stop their ability
to feed at the pork barrel buffet, they wanted to
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get as much as they possibly could in now, and
so it sounds like they hung Speaker Johnson out to
dry as they you know, as they're looking to squeeze
out everything they can before they're out the door. Because
remember it's the lame duck Congress. Most of them are
gone or a lot of them are gone in at
the at the end of this year. Now, this particular
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cr appears to be a conglomeration of everything that the
voters rejected in the November election. It's got bloated, bloated budgets,
reckless spending. It's got giveaways. It hands billions overseas, including
more funding for Ukraine. It ignores the crises that we
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face at home. There's nothing in it that's going to
fix the border or it's going to tackle inflation. It's
a big win for big pharma. And you know, despite
you know the fact that American people, you know, King
Jeffreys was so concerned about the American people and that
cut that I played, despite our demand for you know,
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reforms and lower drug prices, something that Biden administration says
they're good at, which I debate, but they claim they
are and hold the healthcare industry accountable. This bill allows
big Pharma to maintain a grip on Medicare and healthcare policy.
It doesn't address the failures of Medicare Part D. It
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prioritizes big farmers profits over the well being of Americans.
It's an example of how Humor and his fellow swamp
creatures are trying to preserve a very corrupt status quo
at our expense, at the expense of taxpayers. You know,
it seems that what they want to do is try
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the hands or tie the hands of the incoming public
majority by trying to slip stuff through now while while
they still have the ability to vote. And you know,
these are incredibly high stakes. If they lock in a
massive spending increase and some of these bad policies now,
then Republicans will lose the leverage they need in twenty
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twenty five to properly clean up the mess that President
Biden has left. No, so this plan of the Democrats,
as obvious, passes as much of the Democrats' agenda as
possible before the Republican majority can take control. And if
Republicans allow this, they will find themselves unable to go
after critical issues like border security. We are talking about
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the dilemma of the one one hundred and eighteenth Congress
to pass a horribly bloated Democrat goody laden Continuing Resolution
which will essentially lock in the massive spending increases that
the Democrats want, and it would also affect the leverage
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that the new Republican Congress needs to when they come
in in January to properly, you know, effect change to
clean up the Biden administration chaos and mess that's left behind.
So what they're trying to do in this Continuing Resolution,
because it's their last shot before they leave, is to
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pass as much of the Democrat agenda as possible before
the Republicans take control. And if Republicans allow this, they're
going to find it very difficult to deal with issues
like border security and fiscal responsibility and healthcare and et cetera,
all the stuff that we really need to do. So
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they need to come up with a Plan B. There
needs to be a Plan B. And what is that
Plan B? Well, Congress needs to pass what they call
a skinny cr that does the bare minimum to keep
the government running while preserving the new Congress and President
Trump's leverage to address the issues that they need to.
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It's critical really to advancing President Trump's agenda and affecting
those disastrous policies that Biden and his group left behind.
And let's face face, fast face facts, what the Republicans
are looking at right now. The base is watching, We
are watching you, and I are watching. And I think
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the American people made it really clear in November that
we were done with the nonsense. We are just in
mood for this kind of bullbleap. We want reform, we
want it as fast as humanly possible, and this bill
is the antithesis of reform. The voters spoke really loud
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and clear. They want a government that's accountable, physically responsible,
and focused on real solutions, not more giveaways to big
Pharma and Ukraine and et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
That is what we're looking at right now. And it's not,
by the way, And that's what you heard the eyre.
You heard that in those House Republicans when I played
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you that montage. But they're not the only ones who
are really angry. Senator Ram Paul of Kentucky has weighed in.
He's tweeting some or xing, however you put it, posting
on x some really unpleasant stuff. He says, I hope
to see Speaker Johnson grow a spine, but this bill
full of pork shows he's a weak weak man. The
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debt will continually grow. Ultimately the dollar will fail. Democrats
are cluelest and big government Republicans are complicit. A sad
day for America. And you've got Mike Lee of Utah
said that while many who support Trump's Department of Government Efficiency,
Doge failed to translate that public support into action when
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they should have done. So, you know, he says, they
think that Doge is going to fix whatever they do. Now,
well there's going to be things that even you know,
Doge can't fit basically so or can't fix. So I
think they need to to, particularly, you know, give up
on that. You've also got Josh Holly. I like Josh Holly.
He's from Missouri. He's they they're very plain spoken in Missouri.
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That's kind of their state motto. But he basically said
that the Continuing Resolution essentially was being delayed because nobody
had a chance to properly vet it. And he said,
by law, Congress is supposed to pass a budget. They're
supposed to do it in September. In ten separate budget
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bills so they can debate them, read them past them,
and they didn't do that, and obviously they blew right
through the deadline, so they got to the end of
the year. They had this huge pile up. That's what
they were counting on, and the fact that there's no
time left, that nobody will have time to read this.
That's what they wanted and that was part of their
plan to slip all of this through. So this is
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what we are currently being faced with. Should the Republicans
stop the bill and let the government shut down? That
was the question on the table. And while that was
being debated, Elon Musk showed up on Capitol Hill and
the game got even more interesting because Elon Musk, as
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we all know, the incoming head of DOGE, a right
hand man of Donald Trump, came out against House Speaker
Johnson's going forward with the government funding bill, going so
far as to threaten lawmakers who voted for it by
being primary. He posted on x this bill should not
pass and said any member of the House or Senate
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who votes for this outrageous spending bill deserves to be
voted out in two years. We're talking about the fact
that the Democrat pork Trough's cr Continuing Resolution was stopped
last night. In his tracks, how did that happen? Well,
the turn against Speaker Johnson the deal with Jeffries and
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the Dems began when Elon Musk posted on x saying
that you know, no, no, no, this is bad. Anybody
who supports this, we're going to primary you. You know
you're going to be out in two years, so don't
support it. So Speaker Johnson appeared unconvinced that this was
a problem because after that tax the post, he was
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asked about it. You know, how do you feel about
Elon coming out against your deal? And he said, I'm
not worried. He said. Elon and Vivac, the two heads
of DOGE, Vivek Ramaswami and I are on a text
chain together and I was explaining to them the background
of this. Vivek and I talked till midnight and he said, look,
I get it. We understand you're in an impossible position.
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And Johnson is talking about how he told him we
got to get this done because he was the key.
By doing this, we're clearing the decks, We're setting up
for Trump to come in roaring back with America First Agenda.
That's what we're going to run with Gusto beginning January third,
when we start the new Congress. Now, if that were true,
you know, he has a good point. I think he is.
He is not correct over the effect of this spending
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belt and apparently Elon Musk thought so too. So Speaker
Johnson was feeling pretty good even after the post. But
it turns out that Musk was just the opening act
on this movement against the deal that he has Donald Trump. Yesterday,
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President elect Donald Trump came out against the spending bill,
siding with Elon Musk's crusade. President Trump made the announcement
that he is opposed to the continuing Resolution, he did
not like it one little bit, and then later in
the afternoon, Vice President elect and Senator J. D. Vance
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with the President, released a joint statement declaring that politicians
should pass a streamlined bill that doesn't give Democrats everything
they want. The text the joint statement says, Republicans want
to support our farmers, pay for disaster relief, and set
up our country for success in twenty twenty five, all
of which I think we can all agree upon. The
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only way to do that is with a temporary funding
bill without Democrat giveaways, combined with an increase in the
debt sealing. He says, anything else is a betrayal of
our country. I think that kind of puts it in
a shell, doesn't it. That kind of explains what exactly
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is going on here and why they don't like it,
and what happened. It stopped all the support, the reluctant
support I have to add for the bill stopped. And
that's when you saw hi Keem Jeffries come out spitting mad,
just apoplectic that the cr was about to be stopped
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and threatening saying that this will destroy Americans and the
government will have to turn the lights out. That's a lot.
That's a lot to take in. Now here's the interesting
thing about this. That's a huge turnaround that President Trump
was able to affect. He's not even sworn into office yet.
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Should he have gotten involved in this, should he have
made his wish is known to the Congress through Elon
Musk and then himself and JD Vance. Is that appropriate
given the fact that he has not sworn in yet,
that he won't be sworn until January twentieth, I'm going
to make that the Pole Question of the Day here,
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which is brought to you. The Pole question is sponsored
by Mario's Roofing, Siding and Windows and you can take
it on x at the Kooner Report. It's also at
WRKO dot com slash Cooner. The question is should Donald
Trump have influenced the spending the vote before he's been
sworn in? Interesting because there's no doubt that it was
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he who stopped it without it, There's not a doubt
in my mind, nor there should be in anybody's mind,
that Donald Trump was able to stop that resolution. Was
that a good thing? And should he have done it?
Let's go to the phone lines again. The number is
two sixty six sixty eight sixty eight. Greg from NASHAUA.
Welcome to the Kooner Report. How are you, sir?
Speaker 4 (20:58):
A long time, so talky Hanta Christmas and hopefully we
get a Festivus miracle to voote.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Well from your lips to God's ear and whoever else
is there.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Greg, I regard this as a minor Festivis miracle because,
let's face it, h that package A lot of the
Republicans that went along with it. Are we either stupid
enough to verify but they never should have been in office,
or we're simply not paying attention, or they are cooperative
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with our energies. And frankly, I think November fifth pointed
out that we're rather shick and tired of their games.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Well, without a doubt, I think that's true, Greg that
November the November fifth showed that, you know, uh uh,
we're done. We're done with the We're done with the
business as usual. And I think that's that's what both
Elon Musk and President Trump are responding to.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Don't you think I have no problem at all with
this possibly going to a shutdown because the last several
times this has happened, it was always the establishment Republicans
that blinked, they've got the house equivalent of Mitch McConn
It was always people but either had skin in the
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game if the game goes against you personally, or they were,
as they stated it early, they were clueless, they were feckless,
and they and they were spineless. And I'm you know,
I'm okay with okay, time to go with some of
you guys. I like it when I like it when
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problem people in both parties out themselves, because you could
think of that as the trash taking itself out for you.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Yes, you could, as a matter of fact, that's a
good way put it. You could. You could, in fact
think of it that way. They're outing themselves. Well, I
think I mentioned it a little bit before, Greg. One
of the issues here is the fact that they know
that they're not going to be able to get any
of this stuff passed with the Republican Congress and a
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Republican in the White House and a Republican majority in
the Senate, and so it's a hail Mary passed to
get what they want. And the problem is that, you know,
Speaker Johnson caught it. He caught the ball, and it's like,
instead of just letting it, you know, bounce into the
end zone on its own, he caught it and said, okay, fine,
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And that I think, and I think a lot of
people trusted Johnson and thought the stuff that was in
the cr would be you know, okay, it's necessary, evil
stuff just basically we have to get through. But it
was a huge cr It was fifteen hundred pages, so
people were trying to get through it and find out
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what's in it, and the more they found out, the
more they were what I'm voting for what I mean,
it just came out yesterday that one of the things
in there is a pay raise for Congress. I mean,
I'm sorry. I know people that have to choose between
keeping their lights on and buying food. And you're giving
yourself a pay raise after you have created this horrible
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mess and you have been you know, puttsing around and
not doing anything to help people for four years, and
now you want to pay raise. And I think it's
when you find, you know, passages in the bill like that,
and they're buried very deeply, so you have to go
deep into the bill to find stuff. And who had
time for that? Because they literally, here's the bill, bang,
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let's vote on it. It was kind of like a Nancy
Pelosi moment. You have to pass the bill to find
out what's in it. Remember that famous line that she
said when Obamacare was being passed and you know, oh
my god, didn't work. Sorry then, but we apparently haven't
lost any lost any or learned anything, I should say.
Josh Holly pointed that out, because no, no, they crammed
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everything in. This was supposed to be ten separate bills
that we could debate and vote on one by one
by one by one, and instead they put they cobbled
it together and hid stuff in it. And as we
find more of the stuff in there, like, wait a minute,
what do you mean, big farmer can't what do you
mean that? That's what's happened? And Elon Musk and JD.
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Vance and Donald Trump said no, and the most important
of those, of course being Donald Trump saying no, because
if Donald Trump had not weighed in, I think Elon
Musk would have gotten a lot of pr for stomping
around Congress. But I don't think anything would have happened.
It was the fact that President Trump and Vice President
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Vance issued a statement saying yeah, no, no, no, not
going to happen.
Speaker 7 (25:51):
No.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
That's what gave Republicans who didn't want to tow the
party line, who didn't want to go along with Speaker
John's and gave them cover to say, yeah, okay, no
he says no, we all say now. So I don't
have a problem with President Trump flexing his muscles in
this particular way. But a lot of people do. They say,
he's not elected yet, why is he interfering? What do
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you say to those people, Greg.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
I say that that's exactly why we elected him because
we need some interference on our behalf the outdoing administration.
As you're helping them, as you're being helped of a door,
you may notice that they've been starting as many fires
and causing as much disruption and setting as many trip
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wires as they possibly can anyone that's signed onto this,
Like I stated earlier, the longer they object to it,
the more they out themselves gay for interfereres, gay for
reflex coming in, I want more of it.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Well, I think while the new Congress starts in January,
and then the president sworn in January twentieth, so I
don't think he'll have to be interferenced as much as action.
We're talking about how President Trump has upended the efforts
to pass a stopgap spending bill to keep the government
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funded through March. While there was a lot of stuff
in that bill. By the way, the bill also had
providing disaster aid and farm aid in it, but the
President says that while soon to be sworn in President
the President Alex says that we should pass the streamline
spending bill that doesn't give Chuck Schumer and the Democrats
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everything that they want. He and JD. Vance issued a
statement that said, the only way to do that is
with a temporary funding bill without the Democrat giveaways in it,
you know, combined with an increase in the debt ceiling.
So he's saying, I'm happy to pass the CR. I'm
happy to or have you passed the CR. I'm happy
to have you do it so that there's farm aid
in there and there's disastert in there, but the rest
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of the stuff has got to go. And if the
bill has not passed, has the bill has to go
through both chambers of Congress, the House and the Senate
and be signed by President Biden before midnight tomorrow night.
That's that's the deadline that we are under right now
with this. That's that's what that's what's about to happen.
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So is he right? Should we let the government shut down?
Because that's what's going to happen. The government's going to
shut down if the bill isn't passed. Is President Trump right?
Should we let the government shut down? And should he
have gotten involved before he's even sworn in. He's not
sworn in yet. He's got another month before he can
he can go as president and make his wishes known.
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He doesn't hold any office at the moment, and neither
does Elon Musk for that matter, neither one of them
hold an office. Although President Trump he is in fact
the incoming president, and he was voted for by the
American people, and his platform was voted for by the
American people. Should he have gotten involved, Let's talk to
Dave in Pennsylvania. Dave, welcome to WRKO. How are you, sir, Candy?
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How are you?
Speaker 6 (29:15):
With Shirston PA corresponding? How you doing?
Speaker 1 (29:18):
I'm fine? How are you doing?
Speaker 8 (29:20):
Good?
Speaker 6 (29:20):
Good, Merry Christmas in the happy New Year? And you
and Mike and all the how wor you do? Listen
is handy. I'm going to tell you a little secret
discontinuing resolution, the stop gap and all that. I'm a veteran.
I she'll get my VA claimed no matter if the
government shuts down or not. And they don't deserve a
pay raise. Second of all, So if they want to
pay raise, shut down the government, show that they get
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strong conservatives of values that we voted for in November fifth,
and then maybe we'll think about getting the pay raise.
But Sandy is another journey secret. All these people that
are in championships, so let's say the lead Democrat the
lead Republican in either chamber of the Congress the Senate
of the House. They get a bu up and pay
if they're the lead person on a certain committee. So
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there's their raise, you know.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Yeah, No, that's that's right, that is their race. You know,
that's just one of the things, by the way, in
their Dave, that's objectionable. You've also got stuff like in
Maryland you have the the bridge that the Key Bridge
that got knocked down, and Maryland's congressional delegation kind of
wields a lot of power in Congress because they are
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and they're all Democrats. They're on most of the spending committees,
which you know, are the things, are the committees that
ease the path for regional priorities. And Senate leaders are
very eager to send Ben Carden, the Democrat of Maryland,
into retirement because he's a retirement with funding for the
Key Bridge, and the cost to rebuild that bridge is
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about two billion dollars, so instead of like Maryland and
in some of this and their lawsuit from the company
kicking and some, they want the federal government to cover
it all. And it's a gift to ben Carden and
that's what that's in the bill too. That's there. There's
also a deal in there to transfer control of r
K RFK Stadium to d C And Maryland is also
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securing the transfer of an Air National Guard squadron from
the district, so they're doing a swap that we're paying
for too. Again that's Maryland getting this. These are all
these are pork barrel things from Maryland. That's this is
the kind of stuff that's in there, very specific, very specific,
uh money transfers that help very powerful democrats, and they're
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trying to slide them in quickly. That's the kind of
thing we're looking at. Now. There's also good stuff in there,
you know. There's there is money for FEMA. There is
money for the Agricultural Department and aid for farmers and ranchers,
but it's massive. I think the FEMA is at twenty
nine billion, the agricult departments at twenty one billion, and
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it's ten billion aid to farmers and ranchers. Now, I
am all for giving aid for FEMA, and I have
no problem with aiding farmers and ranchers, but you don't
have to do it to that tune in this Bill.
You can give them aid what they need to get
through until the spring when this stuff can be debated
and more realistically assessed, as opposed to just throwing all
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these dollars at them. That's the kind of thing that's
in there, Dave, and that's driving me crazy. How about
you and Sandy.
Speaker 6 (32:32):
One more thing, there's also that pod of going to
the State Department, Like something about censoring conservative talk show
people is something. There's some something that censored a bunch
of people that's going to the State Department. I forget
what they call it, off ind but I heard Mangino
talking about it, and also Jeff Let's Digest today.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Okay, so, but that's not in this that's not in
the continuing resolution. That's that's right.
Speaker 6 (32:56):
Well, that's something else.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
But yeah, so but that's but But if it were,
at least Donald Trump has stopped it at this point
in time, and that to me. So so you you
are good with President Trump getting involved, even though he's
not sworn out sworn in yet.
Speaker 6 (33:09):
Yes I am, because we have a mandate. We won
November fifth, and the Democrats got to understand they got their
butts kicked, and Kamala's got to shut up in the tackling,
and we won, Sandy, and we have a mandated mandates.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
You know, yeah, I know, I know, I absolutely know.
Thank you for the call, Dave. I appreciate it very much.
When a caller drops off, it means the line has
opened up for you. Six one seven two sixty six
sixty eight sixty eight is the number here. The text
number is seven zero four seven zero On the text
line six one seven says Sandy, Are you guys serious
You don't give these people their raises and better pay,
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then we wonder why they're all corrupt making money on
the side and doing deals. They need to go up
and corruption needs to stop. That's how you fix these problems.
So you want to pay them for doing a bad
job so that we can get more people like them.
That's what you're looking for. By the way, Congressman, you know,
it's not like they make fifty grand a year. They
make a decent living, there's no doubt about it. And
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they can do speaking fees. There's a lot of stuff
they can do that all legit without being corrupt. So
they can make more money without doing correct It requires
them to make an effort and make work. But I
don't think they should be being rewarded for sitting on
their ass for the past four years and doing the
abysmal job that our Congress has done. To the point,
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where've you seen inflation? When's the last time you went shopping?
That's not just Biden. That's Biden and his congress. You
know that's what has happened. They are responsible for that,
and you want to reward them so we can get
more people like them. I don't agree with you one
hundred at all, even a little bit. Six Oho three
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says Trump is potus. Now, well, it appears so because
he made he issued a statement and a continuing resolution
resolution deal fell apart within hours, it fell apart. That's
pretty impressive as far as I can see. Let's go
to another Dave in Pennsylvania. Dave, Welcome to WRKO. How
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are you, Good.
Speaker 8 (35:10):
Morning, Sandy, Merry Christmas, and thank you for having me
on the shack attack.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Well, thank you, sir for joining. I appreciate that very much.
Speaker 8 (35:18):
A shack attack. I love that.
Speaker 6 (35:20):
So a couple quick points. What they're trying to do is.
Speaker 8 (35:24):
Trump proof twenty twenty five, or at least figinning of
it by front loading that with a debt and the giveaways.
But some of the programs in there besides the pay
raise and the bridge. I believe the thing about the
State Department is in there. One way or the other.
There's DEEI provisions in there. There's a provision in there
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not only for the raises, but to protect members of
Congress from prosecution from acts that they've done in the
last four years. I need it six committee for example.
So they're trying to Trump proof this spend as much
money as they can. The Biden administration is already trying
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to spend as much money in their appropriations budget to
put Trump in a hole right out the gate. And
that's the main part of that. Would speak at Johnson.
You can't you can't negotiate with a Democrat or compromise
because compromise to them is my way or no way.
And if he thinks if he compromises now with them,
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they were going to compromise with him in twenty twenty five,
he's got He's very naive. His speakership is going to
be on the line. They need someone with some backbone.
And that's pretty much all I got to say about that.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Well, you know, it's interesting a text number a texter
and the text number is seven zero four to seven
zero if you want to weigh and made made the
suggestion to pull to pull Johnson and put Matt Gates
in his speaker. What do you think of that?
Speaker 8 (37:00):
Well, that makes sense because you don't have to be
an elected member of the House of Representatives to be
the speaker. And wouldn't that be a nice little bit
of revenge there? And I got a question for you
on Michael. I'd like to know what broadcast microphone you're using,
because I feel like your board settings up for jet
but not for you. Okay, if that makes any sense,
(37:24):
If you use it an s M seven B, you
might want to put a cloud a cloud glifter in
there to bump you up about ten dB because your
voice is very soft.
Speaker 7 (37:32):
Okay, well very.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Loud, that's true. My voice is very soft, especially compared
to him. Well, you know what, I thank you for
the suggestion, and I will, in fact mention it to engineering.
I appreciate that very much. Dave, thanks for the call.
Let's go to Mark in Medford. Mark, welcome to WRKO.
How are you, sir?
Speaker 6 (37:50):
God more than Sandy?
Speaker 7 (37:51):
And I think your voice sounds perfectly fine, thank you,
mart Well, Sandy, this is the Democrats. Every time there's
a bill they want to put out, yes, they always
sneak some stuff into it. And the fact that they
want to give themselves a raise in this bill is
absolutely as nine. They don't deserve a raise. In fact,
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they deserve a pay cut. So yeah, I agree with
Trump shut it down. But you know what, Sandy, what
cracks me.
Speaker 6 (38:20):
Up is this this.
Speaker 7 (38:22):
You know, they don't agree with the Republicans, and they're
going to turn it around and blame the Republicans if
something bad happens towards the American people. But isn't this
the same Democratic party that for the last four years
when they talked about democracy in order to save democracy, democracy,
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we must destroy democracy. So when you called it.
Speaker 6 (38:48):
Like a necessary evil earlier, isn't that the same thing?
Speaker 7 (38:51):
But now it's okay, Now it's not okay?
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Yeah, yes, ye, yes, indeed I would agree with that assessment.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Mark.
Speaker 5 (39:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
So yeah, So it's did you have did you have
any problem? By the way, Mark in in Donald Trump
going up on the on the hill or not going
up to hell, but issuing a statement basically interfering would
be one word for it. I don't necessarily like that word.
But interfering with the business of Congress before he is
sworn into office.
Speaker 7 (39:24):
Not not one bit sandy. I mean, why why should
he be stuck with something they're going to create before
they get out of office. And this is the only
reason why they're doing it. They're gonna try and squeeze
every penny they can out of us.
Speaker 6 (39:38):
Yeah, before they ousted.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
What about Elon Musk. Elon Musk is not elected. He's
never been elected to anything. He went up there and
he was, you know, basically threatening members of Congress, saying,
if you vote for this, we're gonna primary you. Did
you have a problem with that?
Speaker 7 (39:57):
Good for him?
Speaker 4 (39:58):
And then.
Speaker 6 (40:00):
I loved Elon Musk in a non sexual way.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Yeah, I need a T shirt that says that I
love Elon Musk and I adore Elon Musk, and and
so I have huge respect for him. And you know,
it's tough not to admire a guy who basically comes
from nothing and makes himself the richest man on the
face of the earth and builds rockets as a hobby,
you know. I mean, he's going to Mars because he
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had nothing else to do. Last weekend. So that's basically
that that's just genius and he thinks outside the box,
which I really respect. We'll see how And you know,
the interesting thing to me is that you have two
of these geniuses. I think Donald Trump is a genius
on one on many levels. I mean I think he is.
He thinks outside the box, which is what makes I
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think the American people resonate with him and starties Elon Musk.
I'll be interested to see how long they stay copasatic
with each other, because usually huge intellects and personalities like
that have trouble in the long run working together because
they start to you know, chafe or butt heads. But
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so far they seem to be on the same page.
And what's really interesting to me, Mark, is that Elon
Musk used to be a Democrat, and was when he
had all his businesses in California, and it wasn't until
the pandemic and he saw the draconi and at the
same time hypocritical regulations and rules and almost martial law
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that the governor of California did. That made him go yeah, no,
and he took his businesses to Texas and that's when
he started. I don't think he cared about politics right
up until then, and then when it started to affect
its business, he's like, is this what's going being? Oh
my god. And then he's had this evolution to now
where he's going to be a vice chair of DOGE
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and he is now Donald Trump's right hand man. But
I thought of him yesterday. I've heard a lot of
people decides the fact that Elon Musk was doing this
lobbying on the Hill. But here's the thing, Mark, Capitol
Hill is overrun with lobbyists, special interest groups everywhere. So
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I've never heard any of these people that I heard
last night on CNN or MSNBC who were criticizing Elon
Musk for trying to influence Congress. I've never heard any
of them criticize the lobbyists for a defense contractor, or
the cigarette or the tobacco industry, or big pharma. They're
up there. When's the last time you heard anybody criticized.
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They're up them asking Congress for something.
Speaker 7 (42:39):
Well, Sandy, think about this for a second. Okay, what
Trump got elected the first time in twenty sixteen. He
got elected because he wasn't a politician. He spoke his
mind and he was a businessman. He's a billionaire, and
he's a billionaire for a reason. Okay, Now you have
the biggest billionaire in the whole world being his right
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hand man. What more can you ask for for the
next four years, hopefully eight, even though it's gonna be
without Trump, but hopefully eight if Elon must decides to
stay in there, if jd. Vance becomes a president.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Yeah, no, I agree, I agree. Thank you so much
for the call, Mark, I really appreciate it. I hope
you have a great, great Christmas or holiday, whatever it
is that you whether it's Christmas, Hanukkah, Festivus, whatever you like, Kwanza.
I hope you have a wonderful one. Let's go to
Dan in New Hampshire. Dan, Welcome to w RKO. How
are you, sir?
Speaker 6 (43:35):
Thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 4 (43:37):
Dandy, You're welcome.
Speaker 5 (43:39):
You're doing a great job. By the way, President Trump
is absolutely right. First of all, wasn't it as far
as hiking Jeffrey h Talk blaming the Republicans for not
funding the hurricanes and floods? Wasn't it President fighting in
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the Democrat who refused to fund Seema? And let's not
forget Okay, speak of Mike Johnson. Okay, hasn't been doing
his job. He hasn't been voting on single subject bills.
Both speakers him, Mike Johnson and Jeffries Haquem Jeffries are
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both funded by the dirtiest of packs AI pack. Okay,
this is a pack that funds people, corrupt politicians on
both sides of the aisle. Mitch McConnell, Chuck's Huma corrupt,
Joe Biden, Mike Pence, Mitt Rondi's Adam Schiff.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (44:37):
So, let's why Trump is right.
Speaker 5 (44:40):
Because it violates the Budget Controlled Acts of nineteen seventy four.
It's a federal law that says that you were required
to have a balanced budget mess the inn. Within that
balanced budget, you're supposed to vote on single subject spending
bills that appropriate dollars the various agencies of government.
Speaker 4 (45:03):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (45:04):
So no the yards, no omnibus, no more money for
other countries.
Speaker 6 (45:10):
They've been violating the law. Okay.
Speaker 5 (45:13):
And this goes back all the way to speak a
new Gingrich who was the first to start bundle bills
in nineteen ninety six. He's the godfather of it. Okay,
And it was billions and billions of dollars. Okay, a
fork fight up and one bill, but one of up
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and down vote is not doing the job of the Congress.
It leaves everybody unaccountable for their vote. And by voting
on single subject bills, this makes everybody accountable because you
can't say I didn't vote for this and I voted
for that.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
Well, that's what they were supposed to do, Dan, that
was the deal. They were supposed to do ten of
these bills, and they were all going to be debated
on and voted for, so you could see what was
in everyone. But they put up, but the down put
them off. They put them off, and they put them off,
and they put them off so that you had to
do it all at once to get them done before
the end of the year. Thinking they were thinking, I'm
(46:09):
sure that the government shutdown was a big enough stick
that it would make people just vote for the bill.
So the government didn't shut down, because nobody wants a
government shutdown over the holidays, over Christmas, over the New Year,
you know, nobody wants that, and so that's what they
were hoping for, and instead you have Donald Trump going
(46:31):
shut it down. And I agree with him. I think
it's okay to shut down the government until I don't
know till what would we have to do it until
he gets into office? Is that what it's going to
be if they shut the government down? Will it stay
shut down until January twenty? That's a month away? Can
we do it?
Speaker 6 (46:49):
Can we?
Speaker 1 (46:49):
Can we wait a month before before we reopen up
knowing that, or will it take just till the new
Congress comes in, which is basically two weeks away, so
we'd only be shut down for two weeks. We've done
that before? Can we do it again? Is this going
to distress your life in any way that you would
not support it? Does it affect your friends, your family,
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