Was it 3 Against 1?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Seven two six sixty eight sixty eight is the number
Dan in Plymouth. Thanks for holding Dan and welcome.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Hey, good morning, Jeff. This is his nurse Dan for Congress.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Jeff.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
The real question is who's the loser, and it's the
American people. After witnessing Kamala's performance last night, I think
we're going to see a repeat of what happened with
Nixon and Stevenson. I do not think that if Kamala wins,
that either Kamala or Tim Waltz will finish their terms.

(00:37):
I believe that they will both be impeached by the
Democrat Party and replaced with more better puppets.

Speaker 4 (00:47):
It's clear last.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Night Kamala can get to a ninety minute debate, but
she can't get to a four year presidential term. And
so I think we're in for rough waters.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Jeff.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
I want to be optimistic, but I think we're in
for rough waters. And that's really my piece.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Well, you know, Dan, Look what was shocking to me
about last night was even with the two moderators in
her back pocket and I mean hand feeding her and
attacking Trump, criticizing Trump, debating Trump, it was three on one.
She's still all she had and if you pay attention

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to all of her sound bites and her lines and everything,
it was literally her DNC speech, rehearsed, sorry, regurgitated in
bits and pieces. And it's also it's a stump speech.
The DNC speech has become the stump speech, and that
stump speech was last night's debate.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
So what I'm saying is the woman.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Has thirty minutes in her and it's the thirty minutes
that they.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
Just keep going over and over.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
And it's the same phrases, the same lines, the same
you know, the same jargon, over and over and over
and over and over again. An opportunity economy. I come
from a middle class family. We have to turn the
page on the past.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
We have to unite. It's the same.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Lines again and again. She's a bad liar, she's an
awful candidate. And I'm like, jeez, man, if it was
three on one, Donald Trump shouldn't be standing today. And instead,
I mean, apparently, at least so far, it looks like

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most of the poles say either he won or was
a draw. I mean, I know the media is trying
to claim that this was the greatest debate performance in
the history of the United States, but even with all
this help, because in the end, this is her problem.
She's got nothing. In the end, she has no substance whatsoever.

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And see, this is the problem with last night. Where
does she stand on the issues?

Speaker 4 (03:12):
We don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
If you're a Pennsylvania voter, where does she stand on fracking?

Speaker 4 (03:17):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
How's she going to get food down. I don't know
how's she going to get gas and groceries down. I
don't know how's she going to secure the border. I
don't know how's she going to stop illegal immigration.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
I don't know. I could just go on and on
and on and so.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
In other words, it's like, see, that's their problem, and
they think they can bamboozle us. But I think now
they're getting a little worried because this may be good
Hollywood production, this may be good political theater, but people
are hurting. Look, I can just tell you this, Dan,

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I don't know if financially I can survive another four
years of Kamela. I mean Biden Harris. What she offered, yes, yes,
today was more Bidenism. That's essentially what she offered. Even
her so called policy page, it was cut and paste
from Biden. So what she's offering us is more of
the SAME's that's what we're getting, and she can do

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her whole new generation of leadership. Blah blah blah blah.
I don't care that you're twenty years younger than Joe Biden.
What I care about is your policies are the exact same.
If anything, they're worse. And America has barely survived the
last three and a half four years. It won't survive

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another four. That's her problem. And I believe that's ultimately
Trump's ace in the hole.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
What say you, Jeff, there's one one bit of hopes.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Harris did not give herself any wiggle room. She didn't
talk about the continuation of student debt relief. And she
also the position uh in Israel's corner. And I believe
that those two positions could could alienate the young voters
who may not turn out that happens that benefits Trump

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and Republicans. She there's no wiggle room and and and
and it's going to be hot for her to salvage
that position. I am optimistic that that Kamala's own worst
Kamala is her own worst enemy. And if Trump just
stays on the meat and potatoes issues that Republicans will

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prevail and will have a better, a brighter future.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
But forget about.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Crowd sizes, forget about uh his rallies. Just stay on
the meat and potato policy.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
Is being go. That's all he had to do last night. Okay, So.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
To show you how BLI the election interference by ABC
News was last night, Here is David MUIRR.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
And he's talking.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
He keeps pushing Trump about do you regret anything about
January six? And then he starts going on about election fraud,
and he wants Trump to relitigate the twenty twenty election.
In other words, again everything to favor Kamala. Have him
talk about the twenty twenty election, not about his record

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as president, not about what's happening under Biden Harris the
last three and a half four years. Don let's not
talk about that. Let's relitigate the twenty twenty election. So
Trump says, yeah, I believe there was voter fraud, and
of course mur and Lindsay Davis start laughing, smirking at Trump.
Kamala's cackling, laughing at Trump. They're shaking their heads. They

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can't believe it. And then David mur reads a tweet
sorry a truth social post by Trump, and in that
social post, Trump says, We're going to get to the
bottom of what happened in twenty twenty and all of
those that engaged in fraud and in cheating are going
to be prosecuted. Listen now to Murr. He then goes

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to Kamala Harris. Listen now to this, and this is
the question he asks her.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
Roll cut six.

Speaker 5 (07:26):
Mike, He said, when I win, those people who cheated,
and then he lists donors, voters, election officials He says
will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law,
which will include long term prison sentences. One of your
campaigns top lawyers responded, saying, we won't let Donald Trump
intimidate us. We won't let him suppress the vote. Is

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that what you believe he's trying to do here?

Speaker 6 (07:52):
Donald Trump was fired by eighty one million people, so
let's be clear about that. And clearly he is having
a very difficult time processing that. But we cannot afford
to have a president of the United States who attempts,
as he did in the past, to upend the will
of the voters in a free and fair election.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
I mean, it's It's just so this is a debate question. Again,
as I told you, Donald Trump is horrible. Do you
agree Trump?

Speaker 4 (08:25):
Are you horrible?

Speaker 6 (08:27):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Kamala, is Trump horrible? That was last night and this
is one example of that. Now listen now to this.
So Murr is like then saying, well, yeah, so, oh oh,
so you think he is trying to Oh, he's trying
to intimidate people, He's trying to suppress the vote. Okay,
and then Kamala fallows up with this world cuts six

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a Mike.

Speaker 6 (08:53):
I'm going to tell you that I have traveled the
world as Vice president of the United States, and world
leaders are laughing at Donald Trump. I have talked with
military leaders, some of whom work with you, and they
say you're a disgrace. And when you then talk in
this way in a presidential debate and deny what over

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and over again are court cases you have lost because
you did, in fact lose that election, it leads one
to believe that perhaps we do not have in the candidate,
to my right, the temperament or the ability to not
be confused about fact. That's deeply troubling and the American

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people deserve better.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
I e.

Speaker 4 (09:40):
He's crazy.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
I E.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
And this is what David Pluff, the former Obama campaign
guy who's now running Kamalist campaign, he goes, Our goal
tonight is to bidnize Trump. We want to convince the
American people. We you he's losing his marbles, that too extreme,
too crazy, that he's just not right in the head.

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And that was there, and the and the and the
moderators played right into it. He was completely coordinated. So
how dare you question a fraudulent election? How dare you
question a stolen election? There must be something wrong with you.
It was a disgrace. As I said, this wasn't a debate,

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This was a public show trial. Six one seven two
six six sixty eight sixty eight agree, disagree. Bob in
New Hampshire. Thanks for holding Bob, and welcome.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
Good morning. How are you?

Speaker 4 (10:46):
I'm good?

Speaker 7 (10:46):
How are you?

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Questions? Why didn't they ask her how many times she
went down to the border during her time there? Did
she ever go to the borders? Never reported that she
went to the border to see what was happening? Number two,
her podium had papers on it last night. He wasn't
supposed to have any papers on your podium. They were
clearly visible. A couple of times, the cameras made a

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mistake and showed them. Nobody's saying nothing about them. Do
you have any comments on the well.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
And Bob, look here, let me play you one more cut. Okay,
let me just play you one more cut. So as
I just played a cut about David Murr, he's interrupting Tromp,
he's fact checking Trump. Then he goes to Kamala and says,
oh my god, listen to what he's saying. What he's
going to do is president? Oh my god, are you afraid?
Is he trying to intimidate voters? Listen now to Kamala.

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This is what she said about Trump's economic plan. I
want you to listen up. Bob roll cut seven b Mike.

Speaker 6 (11:47):
My opponent, on the other hand, his plan is to
do what he has done before, which is to provide
a tax cut for billionaires and big corporations, which will
result in five trillion dollars to America's deficit. My opponent
has a plan that I call the Trump's Sales Tax,
which would be a twenty percent tax on everyday goods

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that you rely on to get through the month. Economists
have said that that Trump sales tax would actually result
for middle class families in about four thousand dollars more
a year because of his policies and his ideas about
what should be the backs of middle class people paying

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for tax cuts for billionaires.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
That's all a lie.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Literally, every single word is a lie, Bob, it's a lie.
I mean, it's not a distortion, a half truth, you
know whatever, well, kind of in the ballpark, but not accurate.
I mean, it's a complete lie. He is not pushing
a national sales tax. He has never pushed a national
sales tax. He's not giving a tax cut for billionaires.

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That's our middle working class. Taxes are going to go
way down. Small businesses are going to get a huge
tax cut. And yes, the corporate tax rate is going
to be competitive so we can bring in foreign investment
into our country. And this it's going to cost middle
class families four thousand dollars more a year.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
Where did she?

Speaker 1 (13:16):
This is a completely made up figure. There's no national
sales tax. He's cutting every Bob. You're going to be
paying less in taxes. Everybody in this audience is going
to be paying less in taxes. Everybody thousands of dollars
less in taxes and we're all going to be paying
four thousand dollars more in taxes. Where did she come

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up with this utter horse crap? David Murr said nothing.
Lindsey Davis said nothing. I could go on. She said
he was going to terminate the constitution. When where? How
where would you say Charlottesville? There were fine people on
all sides. That's a lie, and you know it's a lie,

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blatantly debunked. I could go on and on and on.
By the way, he's now responsible for Afghanistan. I can
play you that cut literally. She stood there to his
face and said, the withdrawal the reason why I was
a disaster, It's because of Trump. I mean even and

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where was David Merbery? Well, I'm sorry, no, Madam Vice President. Hey,
the withdrawal took place in August of twenty twenty one.
I'm sorry. This was after Trump was out of office.
He had been out of office now for eight nine months.
How could he be responsible for something when he's a

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private citizen.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
Nothing? Nothing.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
She slandered him, she demonized him, she lied about him,
she insulted him, and then she stood there all high
and mighty Bob all ninety minutes saying he's dividing the country,
he's polarizing, he's divisive.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
He's the one. She's all you do is insult people.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
I'm thinking the only one insulting anybody all night has
been you, insulting him, insulting his voters, insulting us, insulting
our intelligence. And there's David Murr and Lindsey Davis. They're
there to back her three on one. She lies and

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they reinforce her lies. Trump tells the truth, and they're
supposedly quote unquote fact checking him.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
Bob, what say.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
You still don't I want to know what those papers
were on the podium.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
Well, I think those were clearly cheat sheets. I think
there's no question. And look, I don't know how true
this is. I can just tell you it's all over
social media, Bob, Okay, please look it up. She wore
these special kind of earrings. I'm just telling you now
what I mean. It's millions of people are now talking
about this. And apparently though these earrings are also earbuds.

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They look like earrings, they're nice like earrings, but they're
actual earbuds where you can hear either play music on
it or have somebody talk in your ear, and everybody's
saying they're pointing literally to the ear rings and comparing
it to what you can buy. It's these earbuds slash earrings.
And they're saying, she sounded an awful like Barack Obama?

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Because was Barack Obama in her ear? Was somebody talking
in her ear last night? Because her answers were incredibly
well scripted and well rehearsed. So either she got the
questions ahead of time, which I believe she did, and
then they gave her the script in front of her
for her to read, or somebody was talking in her ear.

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Kevin in North Carolina, Thanks for holding Kevin, and welcome.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Hey Jeff, how's it going to Florn?

Speaker 4 (17:11):
Very very good, Kevin.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
As you can tell, I'm fired up and ready to go.

Speaker 8 (17:16):
Yeah, me too, My friend me too. So I typically
don't call in the radio shows. I'm kind of a
nervous guy, so I don't you know, I get nervous
when I speak. But so if I if I bumble
or fumble my words, I'll nervous.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Kevin, don't worry, You're among friends, trust me. Just think
of it as a phone call to the cooner man.
Two buddies just shooting the breeze about last night's debate.

Speaker 8 (17:41):
Co I had Kevin, all right, well, I appreciate that.
So I kind of feel for Trump. I mean when
he when he starts to speak, or when he's when
he's debating somebody and everything, they's few our lies, he
has every reason to get upset. I think I have

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maybe a solution for that. So it would be good
for the candidates at the next debate. They'd be able
to sit. And my solution is, and don't laugh. If
we take a lie detector and we integrate that with
an electric chair when they're when the when the debaters

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are asking them questions, we give them a mild shock
when we when we sense that they're lying, and.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
We do that over time until death ensues.

Speaker 9 (18:34):
I mean, don't you think that would stop the lie
and that would make all of the candidates more honest?

Speaker 4 (18:40):
Yes, it would. It would stop the line. Kevin.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
The problem is ninety nine point of the politicians wouldn't
do any debates. We'd have no debates. Here, look, Kevin,
here here, just I'm gonna play a cut. I want
to I want you to react to it. This is
her in last night's debate. Now, of course the moderators

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had to ask about January sixth, and they wouldn't let
it go. And David Murr is going on, but do
you have any regrets about that day? And Trump is
trying to explain to him what happened on that day,
and He's like, but don't you have any regrets? And
Trump's like, no, and let me explain to you.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
Why.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Well, listen now to Kamala, because then David Murr goes
to Kamala and he goes.

Speaker 4 (19:25):
Trump has no regrets, What say you, Kamala? Roll cut
nine B. Mike.

Speaker 6 (19:35):
I was at the Capitol on January sixth. I was
the vice president elect. I was also an acting senator.
I was there, and on that day, the President of
the United States insided a violent mob to attack our
nation's capital, to desecrate our nation's capital. On that day,

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one hundred and forty law enforcement officers were injured and
some died. And understand, the former president has been indicted
and impeached for exactly that reason.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Now, under your rules, she'd be fried chicken right now,
I'm telling you she would have been fried. Under your rules,
they would have fright her. She wouldn't have made it past.
Was there a thirty five second answer? It would have been
zid and then je and then and that's it. She's gone.
I mean, under your rules, Kevin, she was not at

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the Capitol on January sixth. That's been a well documented lie.
She was at the Democratic National Committee. She wasn't even
at the capital. That's lie number one. Lie number two.
Trump never incited a violent mob, as he said again yesterday,
was I said patriotically and peacefully. Was wrong with you people?

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So she'd be frying up right away, Smoke would be
coming out of her hair. Okay, but let that go
the big one. What officers were killed on January sixth?
Not a single police officer was killed on January sixth.
Biden has repeated that lie hundreds of times. Kamala has
repeated that lie hundreds of times. The only people that

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were killed on that day were Trump's supporters, Ashley Babbitt,
Roseanne Boyland, and multiple others. Trump's supporters were murdered. Not
one police officer was killed.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
And they know that.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
David Murr knows that, Lindsey Davis knows that, and of
course Kamala knows that. But they lie, Lie, Lie, And
the perception they gave last night, Kevin, is that the
only honest man on that stage. Everything he said was
one thousand percent true everything. You may not have liked

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that he was angry. You may not have liked that
he seemed to ramble a little bit. You may not
like the fact that it wasn't his best debate performance.
You may like the fact that he seemed angry and
frustrated and flustered at times and lost his cool. I
agree on all counts, but he never said anything that
was a lie. He wouldn't have been shocked once under

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your system, not even a little, not even a little one,
not even Everything he said was the God's honest truth.
And yet the media is claiming Trump is the liar.
And now we're watching right in front of our eyes
the second Coming of Abraham Lincoln. Lincoln was a brilliant
debater that apparently now we've never had a debater like

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this since Abraham Lincoln. So, Kevin, to answer your question,
no way in hell would they agree to be having
a lie detector test tied up to some electrocution system,
because they'd all it would be death row every day
up on Capitol Hill final word to you, Kevin.

Speaker 8 (23:05):
We can start out with a mild shot, and the
more lies you stew, the bigger jolt you get. Let's
see how many politicians actually sign up for that debate.
I'm betting maybe one, two, three, Maybe that's going to
be about it.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
And can I be brutally honest with you all kidding aside?
Jd Vance and Donald Trump would sign up. I'm telling
you they would because they don't lie. They just don't lie.
So you know, there's your two and then you can
find maybe a handful here or there. And that said, Kevin,
that's why they'll never agree to it. And what's your

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point now? You just expose them? And look, Kevin, they
failed the voters last night. You want to know the
ultimate meaning of last night's debate? Okay, who won? Who lost? Honestly,
I don't think it's going to change the polls at all,
So ultimately I think is going to have no impact.
But let me tell you who the big losers were, you,

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me and the American people, because we deserved a real
honest debate and that's the last thing we had last night. Kevin,
thank you very much for that call. Don't be a stranger.
Kevin called again Tina in Townshend. Thanks for holding Tina,
and welcome.

Speaker 8 (24:25):
Good morning, Jeff.

Speaker 10 (24:27):
I'm sitting here listening to this this morning, and everything
I keep hearing is kind of I totally agree with
you what you just said. The last thing he said
was that we did deserve a better debate, and honestly,
I know what they We all knew what they were
going to pull.

Speaker 9 (24:43):
I trust Trump. I know he's smart. But what I
don't understand, Jeff, is if you know what's going to
happen before you go in and play the game.

Speaker 10 (24:51):
You've got to be prepared. You've got to be on
your game.

Speaker 9 (24:54):
I mean, this is like we shouldn't all be surprised, like, oh,
it was three against one, Come on better Trump because
he could do better. I don't know if it's his ego.
I don't know what it is, but if I could
talk to him right now, I would just say, Trump,
you knew going in. You knew going in. I don't
even understand why every time he's like, yeah, like, oh, debate,

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you sure you can have all the moderators, you can
do all the talking. What the heck? This is the
most important electures of our lifetime death. And I'm sitting here.
I'm watching it last night like you, and my stomach
was churning, and I'm like, what the heck are you doing.
You're better than this, Do better, do better.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
Well, Tina.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Look, Trump's own family, and you know his children love
him to death. Have said sometimes my dad is his
own worst enemy. And I'm, you know, as one of
his deepest, most heartfelt supporters. I mean, I love the man.
I truly love the man and everything he stands for
and his movement and his agenda because I think it's

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going to rescue and save our country. In fact, I
know it will. He's sometimes his own worst enemy. And
I'll tell you the problem that Trump has. Every great
man needs a great wingman. And what I mean by
that is a really close advisor, a conciliary, as the

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Italian mob puts it. But whatever, somebody who will tell
you no, who has your back, who has your best interests,
who loves you like a brother, but sometimes or a sister.
But sometimes if you know a really good brother, a
really good sister will say no, You're brilliant.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
I love you.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
And a lot of times, man, you come up with
the most fantastic ideas. This one is a bad idea,
and you've got to have the strength to then stand
up to that person because that person has incredible willpower,
and Trump has incredible willpower, and you've got to stand
up to that person and basically talk him out of it.

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And it's not pleasant because people.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
Like that are their fear.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
I mean, Trump is you know, he's a force of nature.
But I'm telling you, I can go through history over
and over and over again, and let me tell you
who Trump's wingman was. It was Steve Bannon. Steve Bannon
was Trump's wingman. Steve Bannon was the only one. And
people have talked about this. He goes, you know, he

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would stand up to Trump. I mean, he believed in
the MAGA agenda. He believed in Trump, he believed in
him as a politician, his skills, his policies. But he
was the only one. Pardon my frank, but that's what
they said with the quote balls in a meeting to
stand up to Trump and say I'm sorry, mister President,
that's a bad move. And I'll tell you why it's

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a bad move. And then Trump would say, well, okay,
I'm I'm not gonna go with you, Steve, and he goes, no,
I'm sorry, mister president. You got in other words, almost
grabbing him by the lapels. You've got to.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
Listen to me on this. This is not gonna work
for you.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
And they would get into shouting matches the way brothers
and sisters do when you're trying to give somebody advice
and you know, f bombs are flying or whatever. But
then you respect that person enough that you make up
after a while. It's a very difficult relationship. It's very
very hard to do well. Bannon was the guy, if

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you remember, that really helped Trump win in twenty sixteen.
Bannon would not have allowed Donald Trump to step into
that ambush last night. I'm telling you he wouldn't. He
would not have let him do the debate on CNN
with Biden, and he never would have let him get
into that debate and they would have been hooting and

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hollering and swearing, but in the end he would have
convinced Trump, don't do it.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
He doesn't have that kind of guy. Now.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
Now, Bannon was I believe, going to potentially come back
into the campaign, and where is he now. He's in jail,
just like they put Peter Navarro in jail, because what
the Democrats understand is what we don't. When you go
after a great man, you don't just go after him.

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You go after his right arm, you go after his
left arm, you go after his right leg, you go
after his left leg. In other words, this top advisor
cut him off. That top advisor cut him off, this
key aid cut him off. And no great man can
win alone. I'm sorry, It's just it's never been done
in history. I'm not saying he doesn't have talented people.

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He's got very talented people around him, but he needs
that wingman. He doesn't have it. Reagan had Lee Atwater,
Lee Atwater, I'm telling you. And by the way, Lee
Atwater ion, George Bush forty one, George H. W.

Speaker 4 (29:55):
Bush.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Who do you think one of that campaign in nineteen
eighty eight was Lee Atwater? Lee Atwater won on that campaign.
So and then Leahwater got brain cancer and then that's
when the Clintons rolled the Bush machine in nineteen ninety two.
All my point is Trump needs someone who can say
no and who's got his confidence, who has his back,

(30:19):
who's a real ally, a real advisor. He doesn't have that.
Because i could see it a mile away. It's an ambush.
Don't walk into it, and he did. Now to me,
the good news is, I don't believe it's going to

(30:40):
change the polls. I think it was a bad night,
but I think ultimately it's not going to affect the election.
What's frustrating, and I'm baring my soul now, is that
he could have knocked her out last night. It was
a huge missed opportunity. He could have crushed her, crushed her,

(31:00):
and this thing.

Speaker 4 (31:01):
Would be over.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Baby, as they say good night, Irene Okay, joining me
now as she always does at this time, Doctor Grace,
putting liberals in their place, Grace Vuoto, my wonderful better half,
my wonderful wife, Grace. I've got to ask you who won,
who lost? What was your impression of last night's debate?

Speaker 7 (31:23):
Kat, thank you so much for having me on. This
was Donald Trump's worst debate performance since he came onto
the political scene in twenty sixteen. He lost Harris one.
He walked into a trap. He was not ready. He
missed opportunity after opportunity. He had no strategy, he had

(31:46):
no focus, and he didn't know who, exactly who he
was appealing to She was ready, she was rehearsed, she
had a strategy, and she was appealing to women and
undecided and never trumpers. She knew exactly what she was
there to do, and she did it. He didn't know
why he was there, what he was doing. He simply

(32:09):
reinforced the magabase and that's it. He let her get
under his skin, and he blew opportunity after opportunity after opportunity.
It was a really frustrating night. Yes, the moderators were
a disaster, but they are all the time. So I
three hundred percent with your last caller. You know that

(32:29):
this is going to happen, so you got to be
ready for that to happen. And all he had to
do was ask her again and again. Do you support
the Biden Harris record? Yes or no? Do you support
what Biden did on energy? Yes or no? Do you
support what Biden did on the economy Yes or no.

(32:52):
Do you support what Biden did on immigration? Yes or no?
And I want to stood there and forced her to
answer those questions, because what she did is this. Every
time Trump attacked Biden, she said, well, you're running against me,
So she played the misogyny card. Like talk to me,

(33:14):
but every time she needed the experience, the aura of
im wiscon you know, I can be commander in chief.
Then she ran behind the Biden coattails. So which is it?
Are you part of the Biden Harris administration or not
answer that question to the American people, because you're part
of it when you want to claim that you're experienced,

(33:35):
but you're not part of it when you want to
run away from the disastrous policies. Jeff, he could have
vicerated her. Eighty percent of your callers on that stage
could have evicerated her last night, and Donald Trump did
not do that, and so I was extremely frustrated with him.

(33:55):
Of course I'm furious at the moderators. It was definitely
three again. But we know that's gonna happen. He's been
at war with them for since twenty sixteen. He's been
at war with the media. What do you think is
gonna happen? They're gonna throw roses at you, They're not.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
Grace.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
What do you think happens now going forward? Kamalis people
immediately said they want to another debate with Trump maybe
in early October.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
Will that happen? And should Trump do another debate.

Speaker 7 (34:28):
Well, listen right now, what is really happening is this.
We have a huge gender gap in this country. There
are eight more eight million more women, or more female
voters than men. Seventy percent of women vote, sixty eight
percent of men vote. So Harris realizes, hey, the more
I keep doing this, the more females are gonna vote

(34:51):
for me. And she did everything that they told her
to do. During the DNC there were two very important speeches.
One was I'm Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton shored up the
female vote and her speech was the second most important speech.
She told the illegals she's giving them amnesty. So they're
going after the women. They're going after the illegals, and

(35:14):
they got them now. And last night she had another mission.
Go after the undecided, go after the never trumpers, go
after the people who don't follow the news and are
just tuning in right now. Who do you think won
those people? Trump never even spoke to those people once.
He never even spoke to women directly. He could have

(35:35):
said to the females out there, don't you want to
feel safer than you feel right now? I delivered safety,
and you know what astonished me, Jeff Donald Trump presided
over one of the most peaceful eras in foreign policy
in living memory. He was one of the best commander
in chiefs in terms of the peace and stability around

(35:58):
the world, And yet he was so defensive on those points,
getting lost, going down all these rabbit holes. He had
to project confidence and so much pride in his record.
Instead he was frazzled by her, by the most incompetent

(36:19):
vice president we have ever had, and by the most
disastrous administration. His record is so strong, I do not
think he was a great spokesman for his own brilliant record.
That's what just frustrated me.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
What so I mean to answer the question.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
I know you're saying he missed opportunity after opportunity after opportunity, and.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
I agree with you.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
A question now is will there be a second debate?
And should Trump agree to a second debate? In other words,
who needs a second debate? More Trump or Kamala.

Speaker 7 (36:57):
If I was advising Harris, I would say that you
don't really need one, but you know what, if you
get one, you just deploy this same strategy again, and
you're gonna get more and more women and undecided to
go your way. And if I'm on Trump's team. This morning,
I'm berating him and saying, listen, sir, I'm sorry, but
this is what you need to do. And if we

(37:18):
accept another debate, it's gonna be with moderators that we
can trust, air in an arena that's going to be fair,
and you're gonna have a strategy and you're gonna have focus.
Otherwise there's no point in doing it. And if I'm
as advisor and I see that it's going to be
a repeat of this, just wing it and hope for
the best, I would be advising them forget it. You
can't do it anymore. He was much more nimble before

(37:41):
he could go into a hostile environment, and before we
knew it, we were laughing at a funny joke he made.
He was able to expose the ruling class with his charm,
with his humor, with his composure, with his wit. Why
didn't he call them out on that stage he always
had before he would say, you guys, you're all fake news.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
Me.

Speaker 7 (38:00):
He could have done that. He used to do that
so brilliantly before. He didn't show any of the nimble
ability that he had before, And as his advisor, I
would be assessing him. Are you going to go back
to the strategies that worked or are you going to
do this other.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
I don't know what that was last night.

Speaker 7 (38:18):
I truly don't know what that was. There was just
no point of him being there. I mean, if you're
going to go there to talk to Maga, just keep
doing your rallies. But that debate was not for Maga.
Mecca's already in your camp.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
We have been talking with doctor Grace putting liberals and
I guess in this case, Trump.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
In his place.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Not happy with Trump's performance, that's for sure, Doctor Grace,
thank you so much for coming on the Kooner Report.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
Grace Woto