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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, let's go right back to Maggie in Amesbury. Maggie
was making the point why did Trump essentially adhere or
follow everything Fauci was advising because essentially the media the
political class boxed them in saying he was the science
and if you went against Fauci, you were against science

(00:23):
itself and you wanted people to die under COVID nineteen.
So they framed the narrative and they essentially cornered President Trump,
and as Trump later admitted, it was the biggest mistake
of his first term. Okay, let's go right back to
Maggie in Amesbury. Maggie, I know you wanted to say

(00:43):
something additional, Please.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Go ahead, Okay, thank you. Jeff. I will give you
an illustration of when I was trying to say about
the medical establishment not speaking up. One of my close
friends early on, he broke from Fauci during the whole
COVID you know, when it about she was rolling things out,
because he knew where he was, he knew what he

(01:05):
was wrong. He disagreed with him on many levels, but
he's very my friend's very liberal to this day. He
didn't speak up then and he's not speaking up now.
And I have to blame those scientists just as much
as Trump, because Trump didn't know. I'm not excusing him,
but he didn't know the details that scientists, doctors, nurses

(01:28):
like myself knew.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Well, you know, you're completely right, I'll tell you what
I found. I'm going back now in time. But I
remember when Trump came down with COVID and it was
a huge thing, and he was rushed to Walter Reed
Hospital and he said the quiet part out loud. He

(01:53):
was often right, you know, he would come out and say,
I don't think the masks are going to work. It
doesn't make sense to me. And then they all pounced
on him or he came out and said. You know,
he kept railing against the lockdowns, and he was like, well,
they told me two weeks to flatten the curve. That
was the line that Fauci used and all of his allies,

(02:17):
and he goes, it's not two weeks anymore, it's two months.
It's three months. And I don't see it stopping or halting.
COVID nineteen. He goes, it's spreading. Whether we locked it
down or didn't lock it down, all it's doing now
is massive economic damage. And they pounced all over him. Well,
this one was when he came out and said, oh no, no, no,

(02:40):
I was using ivermectin and hydroxychloroicu in and oh my god,
I felt so much better within a couple of hours.
And I'll never forget this mag You can look it up.
It was day after day, night after night. Oh you
would think he said let's rape children. It was wall

(03:01):
to wall. I don't care if it was CNN, MS NOW,
the big networks, the New York Times, Washington Post, Boston Globe,
local media, social media. They were losing their minds. This
is horse pace, this is horse d wormer, this is

(03:23):
how dare he say this? This is not science. He's
gonna get people killed, you know, on and on and on.
How could you give such blatant misinformation this information? Somebody
needs to remove him from office. And it turned out
ivermectin was gold hydroxychloroquin HCQ gold studies now over one

(03:50):
hundred studies, seventy eighty percent effective against the COVID nineteen virus.
The only people it really doesn't help are the elderly
with multiple co morbidities. Then almost nothing can help you
at that point with COVID nineteen. But outside of that,

(04:11):
I took it. I'm telling you it worked. Everybody I
knew took it. It worked. That or hate CQ, it worked.
So Trump blurted it out and he would say, it
seems to me like it's working. And then he's like,
people are telling me it's working, and they, I mean,
they crucified the guy so that I'll never forget that.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
It was.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Hysteria. It was I've never seen. It was panic porn
to a degree I've never seen before. And they wanted
him out, and they were intent on spreading as much
fear and as much panic as possible. And the whole

(04:59):
time they were lying, and they knew they were lying.
And I don't think really the country's ever recovered. I
can just tell you I don't trust my doctors like
I used to. I don't trust the medical establishment here.
I mean, I'm gonna talk about it later in the show,
but let me just mention it now. The FDA reversed itself.

(05:22):
Listen to this, Maggie. The FDA just a couple months
ago rejected a flu vaccine from Maderna, which is based
completely on mRNA technology. It's an mRNA flu vaccine. And
three months ago they said this is horrible. You're crazy.

(05:44):
They said, the clinical trials are not up to standards.
You're gaming and rigging the testing process. There's no way
in hell we're going to allow you to sell this
on the open market. Three months later, this was just
what is it? A couple days ago they did a
complete one pint eighty And now for the twenty twenty
six twenty twenty seven flu season, you can get now

(06:08):
a moderna mRNA flu shot. I'm telling you, the FDA
has no business allowing this to be sold on the
open market, or being given to Americans, or being pushed
or promoted or even allowed in pharmacies. And all the

(06:29):
only reason why the money. The money, that's all it is.
It's the money. So now they're so aggressive with their
mRNA technology they want it in the flu in the
flu shot. And by the way, the testing that they
did do you can look it up. Don't take my
word for it. Heavy side effects, adverse events, myocarditis, blood cloths,

(06:57):
some people dying from heart attacks. They even admit it.
And Maderna. This is the MODERNA flu vaccine that the
mRNA and the FDA still approved it so I don't
trust big Pharma, and I don't trust the medical establishment
as far as you can throw them this. Let's put

(07:19):
it this way. This is not your parents is FDA.
It's all money. Now you know the expression money talks,
bs walks. It's all money, Maggie. Final word to you.
Did we lose Maggie? Okay? This is an email that

(07:41):
I got on my personal phone from a good friend
of mine. He's a staunch, staunch supporter of Cooner Country,
a long time listener and a regular Texter as well.
And this is what he sent me. And I got
to say, he's absolutely correct. He reminded me of something

(08:02):
and it's one thousand percent correct. This is from Kevin
jeff in one text. I want to cite something and
then remind you of something. During the Fauci hearing in
front of Rand Paul's Committee, there was one thing that
happened that I found so profound, and it was when

(08:26):
Senator Ron Johnson was railing against Fauci's downplaying of HCQ
hydroxychloroquin and ivermectin. While Johnson held a stack of papers
three inches thick of all the studies proving both medications effectiveness.

(08:51):
If you'll remember back in twenty twenty, at the height
of the pandemic, and I do. I sent you a
link to the NIH's own website that contained all the
hundreds of official clinical trials showing the effectiveness of HCQ

(09:12):
and ivermectin, and you opened the link and reported on
it live on air, and all the while Fauci was
at the time denying it. Those studies that you reported
on that day were the very papers that Senator Ron

(09:36):
Johnson was holding up at the hearing Bingo Bingo. In fact,
I will never forget that because Kevin was the one
who alerted me, and he said, Jed, Jeff, Jeff Cooner. Cooner,
you got to look at this. The National Institute of

(09:58):
Health on their own website are actually they admit that
they've done over a hundred clinical trials regarding ivermectin and
HCQ and how effective it is against COVID nineteen. You
got to look at this, man, you want to talk

(10:19):
about the proverbial smoking gun. Here it is. So I
went and I'm like, eh, you know, you're slopping yourself
in the face. I'm living in a twilight zone. They're
undercutting the case for the vaccine and Fauci's lying about
HCQ and ivermectin. And here they are defaming Trump, slandering Trump,

(10:41):
villainizing Trump for stating the basic obvious truth they gave me.
Ivermectin it works, HCQ, it works. And so what I
did if I went on the air and I just
went study by study, trial by trial, giving all of

(11:02):
you the percentages, and they were very high of how
effective ivermectin and HCQ were against COVID nineteen. I was censored,
My show was not allowed to be put on YouTube
bill in Sudbury. I'll never forget this. Demanded that I

(11:23):
be taken off the air, that I lose my job,
lose my career, that I'd be officially canceled, censored because
I was going against the quote unquote science. And who
was the quote unquote science, That pathological liar, schemer and grifter, chicken,

(11:50):
little doctor fifth Fauci. And it was that climate of intolerance,
that climate of hysteria, that climate of fearmongering that gripped
so much of the country. Truth was ver butten. Real science,

(12:13):
real evidence, real facts verboten forbidden because everything depended upon
the opinion and edict of one man, a god chicken
little six one seven two six, six sixty eight sixty
eight is the number. Yeah. So, do I think you

(12:37):
should go to jail, You better believe it. Do I
think you should be tried for crimes against humanity? You
better believe it. And by the way, in private, Fauci
admitted how effective ivermectin is and how effective hate CQ is.
And I remember at the time, I'm like, how did

(12:59):
this suddenly become come horse paste or horse the wormer.
It's a Nobel Prize winning medication. It's been around for
sixty years. We have a huge it's safe, it's extremely effective,
hardly any side effects that people know of, and if

(13:21):
they are, some side effects very minor. So here you
have a proven medication that we know works and that
we know is safe, and yet we're not gonna prescribe it.
We're not gonna tell Americans about it. And the answer was,
you know why, because it's cheap. It's pennies on a pill,

(13:46):
the mr NA jab that's big money. That's big money.
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight.
That's when I knew that the health established was not
about putting people first or our public health. It was
about how much money they can stuff into their pockets,

(14:10):
and how many people died or were injured or maimed.
They didn't give a damn. And the scariest thing of
all was the blind fanaticism of people like Bill and
Sudbury and Chris and Gloucester. How it just if the media,
if CNN parroted it, and if Fauci parroted it, then

(14:34):
with this fanatical zeal, you know, like a like a
like a Nazi shock troop or a Communist shock troop,
and they call, get him off to you, he's going
to get people killed. Unforgivable, absolutely unforgivable. Six one seven

(15:01):
two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Jeffrey in Boston.
Thanks for holding Jeffrey, and welcome Jeff.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
How are you? Excellent show as always incredible. When I
saw uh Pauci and his wife yesterday, I can't say
what I want to on on the air, but I

(15:35):
was infuriated beyond explanation.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
What the middle finger? When the wife gave the media
and the whole country the middle finger?

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Oh yes, oh yes. So what is also infuriating Jeff
is that with all of the facts out, with all
of the evidence, was all of the proof, every single
member of Congress should be one hundred percent with indicting Fauci.

(16:08):
It is sick halfled Congress revers this evil, soulless man.
And I'll never ever understand it. But I just pray
there are high powered attorneys that will bring a class

(16:33):
action lawsuit against every single company who made their employees
become the vaccinated. They put people's lives in risk solely
for false prophet and false promises. You posed a very

(16:58):
poignant question, Jeffrey, can.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
You do me a favorite? By the way, you're on
a roll. You're really on a roll. Jeffrey, hang out.
Can you just hang on? I'm up against it. I
don't want to rush you. I'm going to come right back.
I agree with you, not one thousand percent, a million percent. Okay,
I want to go right back to Jeffrey in Boston.
He is on a roll. But just before I do

(17:21):
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gets to the heart of the matter regarding Fauci, COVID

(17:46):
and everything that we've had to endure and suffer really
over the last six five six years, ever since they
unleashed that pandemic on us. Who or what did more
damage to the country to the United States? Doctor Fauci,

(18:08):
doctor fifth or covid. Ultimately, who or what did more
damage to the United States? Chicken little okay, doctor Fauci
or the actual virus COVID nineteen A Fauci B COVID.

(18:30):
To me, I'm I mean, I'm an a all the
way personally, forget COVID. We could have handled covid ivermectin HCQ,
a good rigorous testing program, protect especially the more vulnerable,
the elderly, and we could have done we could have survived,

(18:50):
not just survived, but we could have easily weathered COVID
nineteen with a minimal, minimal loss of life. To me,
was clear it was Fauci that made everything so utterly destructive.
But that's me I want to hear from you. You
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(19:14):
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Kooner Report. Kuh And is in national Er. Jeffrey, please

(19:37):
pick up where you left off.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Yes, so as as you clearly stated, I've lost a
lot of faith in the medical the medical field as well.
I've never taken a blue shot. I never will. I
will not take a shingle shot. I after the COVID pandemic,

(20:04):
I really don't know who to really trust. But you
brought up a poignant fact. If the DOJ, if they
should bring a criminal indictment, what my concern is if
the grand jury is convened in Washington, which is ninety

(20:28):
eight percent left this lunatic out of spite, I believe
that they will never never indict Fauci. There our only
possible hope would be criminal charges in the Red States.
But I'll make you this promise, jeff on my soul,

(20:51):
if doctor Fauci is is well indicted and tried and convicted,
if he serves time, I'm gonna call back in and
I and I'm gonna mail you and also your staff
a gift certificate for the best steakhouse you guys want
Your show's incredible. It's factual based. I learned more in

(21:16):
four hours than a year's worth of watching any any
news program. Thank you for everything you you and also
your staff always do.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Thank you, Jeffrey. And please there's no need to send
me anything. Just your support is enough for me. But
thank you, Jeffrey, very kind words, and I really appreciate it.
Uh and God bless you. Six one seven two six
six sixty eight sixty eight. Okay, this is now from
Josh Hawley on ex Senator Josh Holly. Oh, I have

(21:50):
to say, just I mean, really cut up Fauci, just,
I mean undressed him at that hearing a couple of
what is it two weeks ago? Now we're Fauci kept
pleading the fifth Uh. And this is now what Holly
has come out on X and I agree with him.
I have to say, I completely agree with him. This

(22:11):
is what Holly has written. Fauci is still getting his
government pension even after raking in millions and millions and
millions in illegal cash prizes. He's a scam artist and
he needs to be put behind bars. Amen. Again, you

(22:33):
can look this up because it's so unbelievable. You're gonna say, Jeff, Jeff, Jeff,
you've got to be exaggerating for effect, you know, to
make your point. I know, I'm telling Fauci's pension is
nearly five hundred thousand dollars. He has the biggest wealthiest

(22:53):
pension of any federal employee in the federal government, including
the President of the United States. Like I think he
beats the president by like maybe like ten or twenty
thousand dollars. You know, I'm not saying it's you know,
hundreds of thousands more. But the point is, this guy

(23:14):
has the biggest freaking pension of any employee in the government,
including the freaking president. I mean, you want to talk
about slap, slap, slap, slap in the face and another
slap and another slap. Now, look, I can just I
can only speak from experience. I got the flu shot once.

(23:36):
This was maybe ten years ago, and guess what. I
came down with the flu. So I stopped taking the
flu shot and it was I'm not sure it was
a sandy anyway. Somebody was the one who said to me, no, Jeff,
when you take a flu shot, that's really last year's flu.
Like they're just going off of last year's strain of

(23:56):
the flu. I'm like, really, yeah, so that's why it's
not really that effective. I mean, it may be for some,
but generally that's why it's not, you know, not that effective.
So ever since then I said, no, forget it, I'm
not taking a flu shot. And ever since I didn't
take a flu shot. I don't want to curse myself.
Knock on wood, I've not gotten the flu now, so

(24:19):
I don't take a flu shot. A because I don't
think it works. And B I don't want to keep
putting stuff in my body. I don't need to now.
I'll tell you what I definitely will not do over
my dead body is take what they've just approved now
the FDA. Criminally, as far as I'm concerned, the Maderna

(24:40):
mr and a flu shot or flu vaccine, I'm not
putting any of that mr NA, which is really gene
editing therapy, that's what it is. And you, I mean,
if you want, I can read to you. I have
the stories on Moderna's flu vaccine, the mRNA, where Miderna

(25:03):
admits that there were side effects in these clinical trials.
They admit it very similar to the job to the
covid job, that there were instances of blood cloths, there
were instances of myocarditis, and that apparently a couple of
people in the clinical trial died. And the only way

(25:27):
they were able to get it approved was to have
their so called RNA flu vaccine compete against another vaccine
that was the weakest and the least effective of all
possible vaccines flu vaccines you can take. And that's how
they kind of were able to justify it for the

(25:48):
FDA and get it across the finish line. And so
I'm reading this and I'm saying, we haven't learned enough,
we haven't suffered enough from the mr NA covid jab.
Now you want to go down the route, you know,
down the road of giving this flu mRNA vaccine, And

(26:14):
you're admitting that the clinical trials. In fact, three months ago,
the FDA openly said that the clinical trials were so weak,
in some cases so non existent. They said, we're rejecting
your you know, your application to get FDA approval out
of hand, Like, are you serious? No, the answer is, no,

(26:37):
no way are we going to put this out on
the market. And now three months later, and I'm assuming
after a lot of lobbying and a lot of money
changing hands because nothing else has really changed. Now at
your local CBS or Walgreens, you know, you can have
the option of taking the Maderna mRNA flu vaccine. I

(27:00):
am not gonna take it. I will never take it.
I don't recommend that you take it. That's up to you.
You want to take a flu vaccine, that's up to you,
but I wouldn't take the Maderna mRNA. And just for
your information, if you do get the flu vaccine or
you want one, please I'm urging you say what kind

(27:20):
of flu vaccine is it? Is it the traditional flu
vaccine or is it this Maderna mRNA flu vaccine? And
if they say it's the Maderna, give me another one.
I don't care any other one. Just give me. But
don't give me that one because I don't want to
wake up and suddenly, you know, my heart is twice

(27:41):
as large, or you know, my left leg is paralyzed
and I can't move and why and they find a
three ft you know, a three foot blood cloth that
they would allow this kind of RNA technology to run
wild and continue to experiment on us. And if you want,
I'll read to you, straight from Maderna's own admission. They say,

(28:05):
we're gonna collect, in other words, what's the effect this
has on people? Well, once we start using it on
the market, we're gonna collect data. And I remember I
read them, what hold on, we're the guinea pigs. You're
gonna hold on. You're gonna get this at your CBS

(28:28):
or Walgreens or whatever. And then yeah, we'll just monitor
and track and oh, geez, that one just dropped dead. Okay, well, yeah,
I guess it does lead to brain tumors. Oh oh,
a stroke? Another one, another heart attack? Okay, yeah, it
looks yeah, some people are getting strokes. Okay, oh, hold on,
you can't have children anymore. Suddenly you took this and

(28:49):
your fertility, your menstrual cycle is all, you know, out
of whack, and oh, you can't have babies anymore. Okay, Well, yeah,
I guess it does impact fertility. Let's write that down.
And this is the Food and Drug Administration. I'm reading
this in my man cave as I do my show prep,

(29:13):
and I'm telling I'm sipping my diet coke and I'm
I'm reading and I'm shaking my head, and I'll tell
exactly what I You know, sometimes I speak to myself
as I read, and I said, boy, I used to
revere the FDA. I used to really admire the FDA.
I'm giving a verbatim what I said last night to myself.

(29:34):
I said, I mean they used to be the gold standard.
Like I remember, they would reject and reject and reject
and reject. And I remember getting approval from the FDA.
Aiyi yi. You know it was like getting an A
from your professor. It was you know, ten years, twenty
years of study after study and trial after trial, and

(29:58):
I mean when they said yes, yes, it was safe.
You know, I remember the criticism for thirty years at
the FDA. They're just they're too tough. Really, the standards
are come on, you know, like we're just not getting
life saving medication out because the FDA these old fuddy dudies.

(30:21):
It's you know, no side effects or very few side
effects and you know, nobody's gonna die from it, and
it's got to be almost one hundred percent effective. And
you know, they were like cheeze, they want the moon.
Sort of like when I was growing up, to get
an A from one of my professors, it was like
maybe one in the whole class got an A. Now

(30:42):
everybody gets an A. But it's like chease to get
an A from this guy. I got to break my back.
That used to I'm telling you that used to be
the FDA, the regulators, the reviewers were in charge. Now

(31:02):
the moneymakers, big pharma, they're in charge. Six one seven.
And you know we're the We're the clinical trial. You know,
we're the laboratory. Rats Charlotte in Boston, Mike, it might

(31:25):
be Charlotte. Please do me a favor if you can
get off speaker. Please get off speaker.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
As far as who did more damage to the country,
the media. The media is complicit in creating and encouraging
fauci a fame and fortune seeking sociopaths. The media did this.

(31:53):
If you want to see the power of the media,
watch the movie A Face in the Crowd. Many similarities.
I don't know if you've ever seen it.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
No, I've never seen it. But I agree with you.
The media is it is the enemy of the people.
There's just no question. And I'll let you finish your point, Charlotte,
I promise. But the way they lie about everything, they
lie about Russia collusion, They lied about Hunter Biden's laptop,

(32:20):
They lied about the stolen election of twenty twenty. They
lied about Fauci, they lied about COVID, they lied about
the lockdowns, they lied about the vaccine, the so called JAB.
What don't they lie about? I mean, really, they lie
about everything. I don't know what they don't. I mean,
I look around, and I say, it's just NonStop propaganda,

(32:42):
lie after lie after lie. And I don't even mean,
you know, an easy lie to disprove, I mean an
obvious lie to disprove. It's not even close. And all
of these journalists are either on the take from the
CCP or when I look you look at the diary Charlotte,

(33:04):
as someone who was a journalist and an editor, I
can't tell you how immoral and unethical and unprofessional you're
supposed to be covering Fauci. He's the leading public health
expert in response to the pandemic, the number one infectious
disease expert. He's the quote COVID czar. So you have

(33:28):
to cover him. You have to be skeptical, you have
to be independent. And Jake Tapper and Chuck pod then
on Meet the Press. Now he's been fired, but then
on Meet the Press and they're reading with the guy.
They're breaking bread, they're having steaks, they're drinking wine, they're

(33:48):
hanging out of each other's homes, they're partying with each other,
and they still have jobs. And this is what the
media does. It's not media, it's propaganda. They're democratic activists
with you know, posing as journalists. And their job is

(34:11):
not to tell the truth. Their job is to lie.
And the more they lie, and the better they lie,
the more money they make. And they I mean, I
gotta tell you and Charlotte, they made a ton of
money during COVID, A ton of money the journalists did.
A Big Pharma was paying Anderson Cooper over ten million

(34:37):
dollars a year for his show, and CNN never disclosed it.
I think his salary was like fifteen million. I mean,
don't quote me, but it was in that ballpark. Big
Pharma literally was cutting the checks. Big Pharma paid for
most of his salary, not CNN, Big Pharma. And what's

(34:59):
Anderson Cooper doing every night? Job, job, job, job, job, vaccine, vaccine.
COVID with the little member, the chiron they had, and
the and the and the and the the box on
the side, how many deaths just to you know, spread
more panic porn. And it turned out you committed suicide,
but you had COVID. That was a COVID death. You

(35:21):
die in a car accident. Oh no, if you had COVID,
that's a COVID death. You drop dead of leukemia or whatever,
a heart attack. Oh, but if you had COVID, that's
a COVID death. So they kept patting the numbers and
patting the numbers just to spread more fear, and all
the while, take the job, take the job. Oh and
censor Jeff Cooner or anybody who questioned their lives. You

(35:46):
call that a media. I call that a whore. Anyway, Charlotte,
you're on a roll. Please keep going.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
You don't have time now. And they want to do
it privately, But that the food vaccine just about on
this killed one of my relatives, and I can't do it.
But I mean in a coma for seventeen days from
a flu vaccine, okay, and that was that was a
year and a half ago. So no one in my

(36:13):
family will ever take any vaccines of any type anywhere anyhow.
But the media watched that movie A face in the crowd.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Well, Charlotte, I'm just curious. When you go to the pharmacy,
I don't care, CVS, Walgreens, wherever, do they keep pushing
the flu vaccine on you? Because they do that to me.
I cannot pick up a medication without them asking me,
would you like the flu shot? I'm like, how many
times do I have to say no? I mean, really,

(36:47):
I keep telling you no, the answer is no, but
they don't stop. Do they do the same thing to you, Charlotte,
I'm just curious.

Speaker 4 (36:55):
Yes, my doctor, the pharmacy, the shingle vaccine. Every time
I talk to my doctor or the assistant to my doctor,
it's you need the shingle vaccine. Well, I'm not taking
a shingle vaccine. I'm not taking any vaccines. And I
haven't taken a flu shot. And I can't tell you
how many years. And I'm older than eighty years, okay,

(37:16):
and I haven't taken a flu shot in over five years.
I got a few coals and that was there. Haven't
had any bad, you know, flu issues. But this is
all the money, so they want to and the vaccines
they want to put in us that damage that we're
paying for the government, which is tax face so that

(37:37):
you have to buy treatment from the same pharmaceutical company
that put the damage in you.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Okay, that's the scam. You're completely right, that's the scam.
And by the way, I can only piggyback off of
what you're saying, Charlotte. And by the way, really good call.
I see my doctor, you want the flu shot. No.
The nurse who sees me, you want the flu shot. No.
I don't know how many ways, how many times I
could say no, like you don't just put really like

(38:09):
you know, just put a gun stick it in my
mouth and say take the damn flu shot, like you
just you're trying to shame me into taking the flu shot.
I don't want to. And by the way, you're right.
They pushed the shingle shot, the shingles shot on me
all the time, and I had shingles. It was really painful.
I'm like, no, I'm good. Well you had it, Okay,
Well you may get it again, Okay. I mean I

(38:32):
really hated having it, but I you know, I didn't die,
I survived. I'll be fine. But it's really painful. I
know I suffered, I took I had shingles, But no,
I'm good. I don't. If I don't need to take it,
I won't take it. And what I mean by need is,
you know, save my life, so I don't. It's okay

(38:53):
if I get the flu. I get the flu. It's okay.
I mean I don't like to get the flu, but
it's okay. I've had the flu. Okay, Well you don't
feel good. I feel like garbage, but you know I survive.
It's just look, if I got cold morbidities and I'm
very old and with a lot of health conditions, Yeah,

(39:16):
a cold can kill you. Pneumonia, a flu, yes,