May 22, 2026 • 55 mins
We're In Session with Dr. Dorothy Jeffries, Behavioral Relationship Consultant on The Bev Johnson on WDIA Radio.
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afternoon to your doctor Dorothy Jeffries.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
Hey late for president.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I know, I said, doctor Jeffries over in the Caribbean somewhere. No,
how you doing, sister.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
Oh, I'm doing good today. I am.
Speaker 6 (08:31):
How about you.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I'm hanging in here.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
Doc girl, we gotta hang on.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
We're hanging on. We're hanging on. Well, good to have
you here and and good to have you talk. And
I wanted to tell you Doctor Jeffries as we were
starting when I opened it up and talked to Linda,
and Linda talked about that she's a single woman. She's dating,
but she says, Bev, I meet so many men who
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are who have trauma, broken men, and she said they
won't have a good life or good relationship because they
are dealing with so much other stuff, Doctor Jeffries, they
don't want to deal with. So I thought, if we
talked about the broke and then she says people she
tell them to go to you know, counseling. Therapy is
nothing wrong and spiritual counseling and correct me if I'm wrong,
(09:21):
Doctor Jeffries. And I told her it's okay to go
to your pastor and he's going to give you that
spiritual counseling, but you need a therapist. Somebody's going to
help you, that's going to help you through whatever your
trauma is, right, doctor Jeffries.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Very well, very well said, very well said, not taking
anything from the barrier of spiritual counseling, But spiritual counseling
in conjunction with one is for your soul and the
other one is for your mind.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Help.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
You know, you go to somebody who's been training and
working with the mind and your mental mental obstacle or
problems or stresses, and then you're more open to experience
what special counseling and guidance can provide you.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Right, So won't we talk about and I know there
are a lot of single women and and she's an
older woman, older woman too, who want to have companionship,
doctor Jefferys, they want to have a relationship, and not
only talking about men, but there are a lot of
women who are traumatized and they need help and they're broken.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
I'm so glad that you pointed that out because I
have to say that, you know, we like to focus
on the brokenness of black males, but actually, if you
are a person of color and you have lived probably
in forty percent of any place in this world, but
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particularly North America, you have been bombarded from conception to
whatever period of life you're still standing or the last
place that you were standing with so much suspicion, so
much misperception, so much misunderstanding, denial and exclusion, that we
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are all we are all broken and damaged at some
point simply because we've tried to live and survive and
tried to thrive in an environment that's anti up. And
until we can all acknowledge that, then we can better
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be able to look and see what's happening with our friends,
our families, our potential lovers, our spouses, our children, and
look at it from a different perspective. It's not us
against them or us trying to save them. We are
a community trying to hold on in this vote called
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life and saved each other, and so it has to
be a collaborative community effort. Some people are much more
damaged than others, but what you're exposed to still has
collateral damage. If you're parents of privilege and you've raised
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your children in an environment of privilege and not prepared
them for people who can't recognize or acknowledge what they
have been exposed to, they're going to be exposed to
racism and sexism and classism and if they're trying to
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make their way in the world, then they're going to
be judged and excluded or hurt or denied because of
how they look, their gender, whatever their politics are, whatever
they're sexual orientation is, whatever their intellectual philosophy is, they're
going to be judged and excluded in that regard. And
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so one of the things that I think is the
most telling, there was an effort that was made the wokeism,
if you want to call it that, and people understand
what I'm talking about, and the concept of being woke
is it was kind of like a revitalization of what
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we went through in the sixties and seventies when we
were talking about a reimagination of black being beautiful, of
Black being strong, of black brothers and sisters being of
one accord, and black families working as a collective in
the black community and what have you. And then that
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expanded to include people from indigenous cultures, from other in
brown communities and what have you, and that all contributed
to that wocism that we grew into, where when we
look at who we are and who are our friends
and neighbors, is begin to question and read and discuss
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intellectually as to what the dynamics are and what is
the purpose and the goals of the dynamics. That was
too much.
Speaker 7 (14:26):
That was too much.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
And so when you see an onslot of people trying
to kill a concept, that means that that concept has
dangerous consequences for the dominant culture. You know, it was
the same thing that happened with Black and Beautiful during
the time when people were letting on each other and
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supporting each other and what have you, drugs were introduced,
people then were incarcerated for the smallest infractions and people
were killed in the streets. And then once drugs were
introduced and the people who had grown up without had
access to ill guiden, money and power and what have you.
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And we're still reaping some of the consequences for that
because then the drug, the drug deals has such a
long lasting and continues to be impact on any ability
to build and maintain a healthy family, community, school system,
intellectual community, or leadership that would serve the whole community.
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So we're all damaged, we're all broken, And until we
can stand in that regard and understand that and accept that,
then we begin to look at each other not being
directed or misperceiving what we see based on what other
people promote and advertise, but what we know and understand
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so when we try. Then we talk about intimate relationships.
Two people with one left leg, two people with two
left legs broken, you know, can I run a race
together effectively unless they understand that they first have to
heal that broken leg. They're both broken legs, and one
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may be more damaged than the other, but they have
to be supportive and work on healing and mending and
rehabilitating each other's broken leg in order to be able
to first walk and then possibly run, and being able
to do that with the understanding I know where you've been,
I know what you've been through, and we've gone through
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this together. We can do this. And that's just a
way of trying to envision what a positive, healthy intimate
relationship could and should be built. If we're talking about longevity,
we're talking about getting the love and the support and
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the concern and kindness that we all seek and that
we all deserve, and so being able to tell ourselves
the truth. You know, Black women have been programmed to
think that we're stronger than our men, that we're healthier
than our men, that our men are weak because they
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don't want to grow up, or they've been babies and
all of that. But as the mothers, the sisters, and
the daughters of those, we need to understand how the
black woman has been used as a weapon against black men.
Because once you are once you believe in the matriarchal concept.
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A matriarch rules something, all right, but you have to
have something really a value to rule that benefits you
and whomever it is that's your subjects, whoever it is
your ruling. A woman working hotel lost to support a
household of children, and a male that's not able to
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get a job but not trained to get a job,
but not horrible because of who he is and where
he comes from and how he looks. It's not a
matriarch of anything of value. That's not a power position.
That concept was started in the slave cabins, where the
white slave owners would only deal with the women because
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they knew that there was a demasculating type of environment
to set up. So if we don't learn our history,
if we don't read the books that people now say
are abandon what have you, we don't understand what not where,
not only where we came from.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
But what we've.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Been through and what now we're getting ready to repeat,
and only people in our generation, I understand this is
not new what's happening. This is a recycling, an undoing
of the last seventy years of civil rights and change.
And so as a consequence, we're gonna lose each other
even more until we understand we're all broken, we're all damaged,
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and until we can see that and begin to help
and learn where we can support each other, we're gonna
lose any ability to be understanding or intimate with somebody
because we're gonna be suspicious, they're gonna be jealous. We're
gonna make decisions. I can do it by myself. I'd
rather be by myself. We're gonna understand that hitting each
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other with words or fists is not a way of
showing somebody that you love them, That it takes two
parents committed to the children that they bring into the
world to raise healthy offspring, and that people who have
multiple children and multiple settings and fractured family structures are
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only doing further damage to their generations. And that becomes
the legacy and the promise of what to expect, And
it sounds so I guess, so sad, so bleak and
what have you. But it's a sad and bleak time,
it really is. And then we have these other foods
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out there who play on the other side. That's still
a dynamic from the slave master's things. There were all
ways the django type of situations where there was somebody
for extra food or extra used clothing and something would
sell out anybody on the plantation, you know, so that
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fosters what it conflicts with that person's credibility and ethics,
but it also builds a high level of distrust. Is
that not where we are?
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Yes, it is.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
I mean.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
I can't believe this, but I've been doing this work
for almost well really fifty years, and we have come
full circle. I remember when doctor Harper and I were
in graduate school and we were talking about what was
the prime research that was going on and many of
the universities by young black scholars and what have you.
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It was the black on black crime. And if you
follow that back, that was directly tied to the drug
trade and having them been pitting, you know, people who
may not have had a dime, but they respected their eldest.
There's some places were off limits. You wouldn't do You
wouldn't be disrespectful to a pastor, You wouldn't be disrespectful
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to big Mama or big Daddy, or do anything to
hurt anything in their home or the eldest who had
been in your community. And all of those people went
inside there and they never came back out because nothing
was off limits. Children learning war maneuvers, how to protect themselves,
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going back and forth to school, and getting used to gunfire.
That's not normal.
Speaker 8 (22:21):
That is not normal.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
And so all of that plays a part in how
we try to be romantic and be in love. And
then we watch television and we see these romantic versions
of the happy ever after, the Cinderella stories, the people
who have the resources and our and we fantasize and
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we want that, and that's normal. But you got to
have somebody's present to be there. You and me got
to have two a couple. So that's the reality of it.
We're all broken. We are all broken in some place,
and some more than others, and some never survive the brokenness.
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But I do understand, and it's sad to admit. We
cannot begin with step one with healing until we acknowledge
where we hurt and why we hurt and who hurt us.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
And that's important because a lot of times, doctor jeffries,
we don't want to acknowledge who hurt us. And that's
the big thing. And as we always say, hurt people
hurt people.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Exactly that that is yes, that hurt people have and
hurt people seek god other hurt people because they seek
out We all seek out somebody that we think that
are a little more damaged than us, so that we
can have a false sense of superiority over I'm healthier
than you, I'm stronger than you. And you know, one
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of the things that we were talking specifically about black
males and stuff, one of the things that black males
encounter and have to contend with is, like I said,
there's always been this force to demasculate black males because
the threat of an informed, intelligence, competent, well educated, healthy
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black male who knows and understands and is steel is
appropriate in his statue and where he comes from and
knows who he is, is a threat. We see that
all the time. We see we see that. The only
thing that comes from that is that then what we
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do is that we mess with the schools, We increase
the expulsion rates in school. We then have a pipeline
from schools where you get so many expulsions and those
are overly used on black males and female And then
where does that go through. Well, if you're not in school,
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you're out in the streets, and if you're out in
the streets, then you're subject to law enforcement. Screwtiny And
why are you out in the street? And you have
now accepted the fact that because everybody thinks I'm weak,
and because I may feel weak and scared and unsure
of myself because of what I've been through, I'm gonna overcompensate.
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I'm gonna go out there and be a bigger man,
a bolder man, a crazier man, a more violent man,
you know, than anybody else is out there then, And
so that means we're all at risks because when you're
pumped up to be hyper masculine, there's no sensitivity or
thoughts or for thoughts for anybody. Everybody's at risk. What
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do we have now? We've got people killing their parents,
we got people killing their children. We got people killing
women while they're pregnant with their how we got people
killing women who in a houseful with nothing but babies
and just coming in. They're like they're an enemy and
what have you. So there's math, math, mental illness, and
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it's almost like everybody's been getting appealed yeah and taking
it and we're all tripping.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Right. So when we're talking about brokenness, and this is
for men, men and women, doctor Jeffries, we have to
go back, and I love it you you said it
so eloquently. Go back to our history and think what
our ancestors went through. And they were broken and they
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didn't know what to do. They kept on going, even
being doctor Jeffries being broken exactly.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
But now, remember the original ones that were enslaves had
a culture, they had history, and they knew who they were,
and the job of enflavement was to erase that. And
that's why slave owners mixed up different tribes. That's why
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nobody necessarily goll came from one area because then those
people had a shared history and culture. They had a
shared language, they had us, they had shared rituals. So
if you mix everybody up, they can't talk to each other,
they don't trust each other. I mean, there was still
the same human dynamics where there were tribes against tribes
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and all of that. But if you took them out
of that, and their common thing was they had it
from a black homeland, that was one point of commonality.
But if we couldn't communicate, if we didn't understand each other,
when we were all distrustful of that, then that was
what they fed on. That's what they promoted and vote
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in people not to.
Speaker 8 (28:01):
Trust each other.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
So it was hard to find love and comfort of
any kind of kindness in that. And to make sure
once you were impregnated, and you were impregnated for economic
value to the owners, you were not impregnated just to
raise They were either going to work or they were
going to be sold. But no families were allowed to
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be primarily intact, and you never knew how long you
would be able to keep whatever children that you burst
into the world together. You always expected that they were something,
something was gonna happen to them. They were going to
be gone. And I think probably one of the most
compelling things that stuck with me in the movie Amistards,
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when those mothers were carrying those efforts and jumping off
in the water or throwing the babies overboard because they
didn't know what they were going to But they saw
how they were treated on those ships, and they knew
they didn't want to They knew they could not protect
their children as they decided that they'd rather see them
die and know where they were then to not know
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what was happening to them and just think what we
drive a mother to do that?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
So, But you can't understand this stuff if you don't
read it and understand and put it in contexts.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Good hold on, doctor Jefferson and take a break and
continue talking. As we're talking today. We're just talking. And
if you do have a relationship question for doctor Jeffries today,
we do appreciate you. We appreciate you if you call in,
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You're listening to the Bev Johnson Show.
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And we're talking on this relationship day. Doctor Jeffries. We're
going to our phone lines to talk to some of
our listeners. WD.
Speaker 9 (31:36):
I A Hi, Pad, Hey Ben, Happy frie to you
and doctor Jeffrees.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Happy friye to you. Pad. I'm doing well in yourself.
Speaker 9 (31:49):
I am wonderful.
Speaker 8 (31:50):
Thank you for asking. I didn't have a relationship question.
Speaker 10 (31:54):
I just wanted to say hey to you, ladies.
Speaker 9 (31:56):
I haven't talked to you this month, and happy but
lady Birthday, Happy belady Mother's Day and all the.
Speaker 8 (32:03):
Other good stuff.
Speaker 9 (32:04):
It's always a pleasure to hear your voice.
Speaker 8 (32:07):
Dam I love you.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I love you, Patt, And it's always a pleasure to
hear your voice. Happy Memorial Day and have a good
time and be safe, sister.
Speaker 8 (32:19):
I will thank you, sweetie. Same to you and doctor Jeffries.
Speaker 7 (32:22):
And you're listening, audience.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
All right, Thank you, Pat, see you be all right.
Bye bye. Hi Keith, Yes, ma'am, yes, what do you say?
Speaker 8 (32:36):
Well, I've been traumatized, are you if you? Ladies? We
called last year in August when they're on the truck
robbery and Krogus. Well there was me oh and yes, yes, ma'am,
and and and the way the they had me get
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on the ground face down and the guy had that
gun point at my head. That just turned my life. Yeah,
told around and right now, you know, I'm seeing the
surpast and I'm seeing a Psychcaptris.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Good god, how are you doing with that?
Speaker 5 (33:25):
Well?
Speaker 8 (33:26):
The first the first four months, I didn't go nowhere,
and I stayed in the house.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
You know.
Speaker 8 (33:32):
You know, I had built a little little house in
the back of the house, and before five months I
just didn't just went into my little shelf. And until
my wife till around told me that, you know, she
was getting fed up because I do have a family
and you know, in the main house. So when I
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started seeing my Psycaptrist, you know, I started getting.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Betta good good.
Speaker 8 (34:02):
But but you know, you know I'm just now start
saying the therapist. But you also you also have to
help yourself too, you know, because also what I'm doing there,
you know, I'm getting out more. Okay, you know, I'm
start going around people, but it's still affect my mentor
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because whenever I go out, you know, I'm still thinking
that somebody is following me.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Right, I got you. I got you. Well, let me, Keith,
continue to go to your they get that therapist and
the psychiatrist. If you're going to that, continue to work
on that. Keep and work on yourself. It's gonna get better.
Don't stop now, don't don't stop. Okay.
Speaker 8 (34:49):
Oh oh, I'm definitely not because before that I was
I was a real strong person. I was hard to break.
But that just broke.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
I get it. I get it, brother, I get it.
I get it. I get it. Keith. Well, God bless you,
and keep on going to your therapy. Okay, I will
thank you, Keith. Thank you. Yeah, keep going, brother. You
know what, Keith, I remember years ago when I was
in graduate school, I got mugged. It was on my
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way to work. Now I'm in I'm a student and
I had to work through that. And I have a
problem with people walking behind me. Keith. I don't like
anybody to walk because the guy who mugged me was
coming behind me. But I get it. But I'm proud
of you, Keith. Doctor Jeffery is proud of you. I'm
sure say that. Keep ongoing, and I'm sorry that happened
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to you. Wow w D I a chaplain commings, Hey, chaplain.
Speaker 8 (35:52):
Listen.
Speaker 9 (35:52):
Doctors were a thing developing the mom with females who
were then come back. Uh they you know, they're gettingmates
and everything that is. This is fine, but I just
want like to say, dot deaf. You know you they
don't want you to hear what they did and come
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back and they come up on some of the other
veterans that they were well for different things like that.
I asked them, police, step away.
Speaker 8 (36:20):
You wouldn't be.
Speaker 9 (36:20):
Able to stand what they had to go through. That
was lost of life and some of those people had
take lives right and they love you to death, but
that you know that that's something else and becoming becoming
something else that I talked to several young ladies now
and that you know, and I just told them, I said,
you know this is this is a problem now yeah,
and it's amazing. You don't have the chotage. I'm gonna
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go see it look like as a shorty good men. Anyway,
I just doing things. I pray God they come on,
come on back on lane. But these young ladies and
then some of them want to retire and they tell
almost but you know you re tied the military thirty seven,
twenty years old. You know, you might be a commander
something and you want somebody, but they don't want you
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to hear howdy what they had to do and come back.
Speaker 10 (37:07):
To just step away somebody. You're shot and they appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (37:10):
Don't want to tell you that because you some of
them get attitude. But I don't mind telling the you
that I had with you though, So that's I just
want to bring it out because it's becoming a problem now.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Thank you, chaplain coming bye, bye common man. Hey, Bill,
you know what I'm doing well and you.
Speaker 10 (37:32):
Doing well? Doing well? Hello, the doctor Jeff is on
the other side. Bill, I heard your first caller of
Linda earlier, and I want to I want to speak
only be broken the subject of broken. You know. Uh,
I've engaged in conversation and uh relationships with women in
(37:53):
the past that has endured a lot of different things.
And people become broken for a lot of different reasons,
you know, we know, right, So I heard women speak about,
you know, you know, being divorced. They were broken behind
a divorce to have kids with a man that's no
longer around, you know, due to the divorce. I know,
(38:13):
women just going to depression, become depressed after having a baby.
They was broken.
Speaker 8 (38:19):
You know.
Speaker 10 (38:19):
I know women that has engaged in relationships that were
twenty years old, but they were still upset about something
that went on in that prior relationship. So this broken
thing is not a black man issues. It's a people's issue.
So until we learn to understand why we may be broken,
(38:41):
what are we going to do about it? Then we're
not doing ourselves any good as a whole.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
This.
Speaker 10 (38:48):
If I'm broken and you may be broken, If I
fix myself, you don't fix yourself, We're probably not gonna
work well together because we're gonna still be looking at
those issues.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Right.
Speaker 10 (38:58):
So I just want to quick say that this is
not just a black man's issue. This is a people's issue,
whether you're black, white, or whatever.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Right, you know.
Speaker 10 (39:06):
Yeah, So if we're gonna focus on this narrative, let's
let's let's include everybody so we maybe can propare some
things as a culture of people. All right, I appreciate you, Bill, thank.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
You, coming man, thank you. W D I a unforgetful, Well, yes,
you only are unforgetful.
Speaker 7 (39:28):
Oh missus, Johonathon, I've been broken twice. Can I talk
to a doctor. Jeffreybody.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Okay, come on talk to us.
Speaker 7 (39:38):
Let's school was the first one. When I was a kid, Beth,
I said, I think a nine years old. I went
to the Lotty Berkeley stand to get amberger in a
milkshack with my friends, and I came home. Coming back home,
the black and white pulled up on me. I'm talking
about police people. They had a black and white call
back in my day, and it was a Missus police.
(39:59):
They out the car, came over us and said, what's
in that sec boy? I said, hamburger, Sir, give me that.
He said, give it to him. I gave it to him.
He opened up, got in and looked around, then threw
my hamburger on the ground. Bell, you know, cold bloody.
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I'm telling you, Bell, that hurted me. And the second
time was I was throwing paper, you know, for the
message trush room. It was afternoon. People, y'all don't know that.
I think it was that I could be wrong. And
then again I quit.
Speaker 6 (40:40):
And they called the police on me. Bell and the
sheriff department came by my mama house was going to
arrest me. Said something about sixty some dollars that I
owed him. I hain't old them nothing do I didn't
you know?
Speaker 1 (40:55):
So that broke you, okay?
Speaker 7 (40:57):
So yes, ma'am, so you you died.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Okay, So you continue to think about that?
Speaker 7 (41:03):
Huh, yes, ma'am, all these lies you know. So my
mother went on and got the money and gave it
to the sheriff department. I mean the sheriff that came
to the house. I wondered, could I get a lawsuit
of something like that on this store because it's the trip.
I ain't never heard police coach house.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Right, So that happened years old. I don't know. You
need and you need to talk to a lawyer.
Speaker 7 (41:26):
But the last thing, it's the last thing.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
What's the last.
Speaker 7 (41:29):
Jeffer I wanted Doctor Jeffery. I want to thank you
for everything that you said today because you one hundred
percent right, and I really appreciate you put it out
there like that, everything, especially with the situation that we're
dealing with the black women as then weaponized against the
black men. And thank you, doctor Jeffrey. I agree with everything.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Thank you, unforgetting by unforgetful, by unforgetful, doctor Jeffries.
Speaker 5 (42:01):
I'm here.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
I want to start with Keith blessed. It's hard who
was traumatized. He was rob I remember that doctor Jeffery
is at the Kroger. Oh my goodness, did you hear Keith?
Speaker 5 (42:13):
I did hear Keith.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
What do you say to Keith?
Speaker 5 (42:17):
I think you said it. Well, you know, having had
mental illness and receiving treatment for it, that is one
of the most courageous things that we can do when
you recognize that there's a problem and you have the
courage and the commitment to follow through on it. Because
therapy is not easy. It's not easy looking into yourself
(42:39):
and your background and your past and all of that.
But when the commitment is there and the desire for better,
less painful, less stressful, less fearful life, I applaud anybody
who goes through therapy and completes the process, and I hope,
like you asked him to do, to continue to stick
(42:59):
to it and we both wish them well yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Yeah. Second thing, Chaplain Cummings mentioned about women who have
been in the service, doctor Jefferies, and you know, trying
in those veterans and they've been in combat, but being
with somebody asking them will tell me about comeback, and
Chaplain comes say that's not a good thing, because that
they were already probably traumatized, especially women going into combat
(43:26):
or being in the service exactly.
Speaker 5 (43:29):
And you know the thing about it if you have
been in combat, And we learned that very early because
we remember a lot of the guys who were fortunate
enough to come back from y Vietnam, right and we
saw how devastated many of them were. And if you
(43:49):
could not tell from somebody who had been in contact,
and most of them were like men children because they
were so young when they were drafted and being over
and exposed to all of that violence and then the
foreign land land, not knowing the language, the culture, and
all of this. You have to understand. Unless somebody volunteers
(44:12):
to talk about their military experience, particularly if they are
veterans and had served in a war, you don't ask,
you know, you just don't ask because we don't know
how they've packed it away. You know, we don't know
if they've had therapy, We don't know if you know,
(44:33):
how if they're prone to having flashbacks or whatever. But
however it is, and they're managing it to keep it
at bay unless they're willing to talk about it. Just
respect that they've done their service on behalf of everybody.
And that's a hard thing. I mean, that's a hard
thing to do, and we need to acknowledge that.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
Yeah, and I think Chaplin commings for calling and say
that because he's a veteran and he's retired. But yeah,
and people don't understand that. And we understand now that
we're hearing doctor Jeffers, so many of the veterans have
PDSD exactly exactly.
Speaker 5 (45:15):
That is very true. And you know, and I think
it's also another thing when we talk about post traumatic
stress syndrome, people who have been in any kind of
violence situation. And the thing that came to my mind
when you said that was men and women who've been
in violence relationship or people who have witnessed violence things.
(45:38):
And now it's more common than ever everybody, from children
to witnesses in family situations and what have You don't
ask people about that. It's not a thing that people
want to just voluntarily bring up or talk about it.
There may be some people at some point in the relationship,
(45:58):
if they're in therapy, they may the therapists may have
that as part of the thing, but let it come
from the person and if they don't bring it up,
you know, where they give you the details of it,
then respect that. Respect things. I mean, unless they're showing
science and you think something is wrong. And if they
(46:20):
tell you I was a victim of domestic violence or
I witness a violence situation, accepted as that rather than ooh,
what happened? What did he or she do to you?
And all of that, how did you? Don't do that?
Respect respect the privacy of things you know. And I
always encourage people to find out about people's history. And
(46:43):
most people who've gone through some type of domestic violence
of therapy and what have you, and had sponsors and
all of that, they usually will tell someone you know,
I was in a violence relationship with a person who
was did you know, controlling things to me and what
(47:05):
have you. I'm not ready to talk about it, but
I want to make sure that you know that, so
that you are aware if you have any of those
anger trails, controlling taxes, we can't make it something like that.
They can tell you, but they don't need to tell
you all the gory details, right.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
Good, good, and and I hear coming man says that
brokenness and it's and he's right to say, it's with
all people with black, white, red, yellow, So we know.
Speaker 5 (47:37):
That yes, yes, yes, and I will to some extent, yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
Yeah, to some extent. And and going back when you
talked about doctor Jeffers, people who have been in domestic
violent situation. They have a commercial. Now I'm so glad
they're running this now, doctor Jeffries that they're running in Memphis.
You see little children and they have aspiration. But in
the background they hear mom and dad fighting and arguing
(48:04):
and hitting and open What does that do to that
child who is in a saying who maybe want to
be a doctor or this? And then they're hearing all
that and they have this commercial. I said, oh my lord,
this is good.
Speaker 5 (48:18):
Yeah, they're hearing it, but we also know many of
them have seen it and witness Yes, yes as well.
And those are those messages that they internalize, you know,
because children are impressionable. The people, the two people that
they may love most in this world. Then they see
(48:40):
the mother who may be receiving on the receiving end
of the vowels, and what is that?
Speaker 1 (48:46):
What is that.
Speaker 5 (48:46):
Telling the little boys and the little girl? This is
what love is? They say, they love each other. You
know And what does that tell you about am I
supposed to do?
Speaker 2 (48:57):
That?
Speaker 5 (48:58):
Is that how I'm supposed to love somebody and what
have you? And you may see it in the little
kids because they become aggressive with other children and what
have you? Kids read what's happening in the family. I
don't care how young you think. They are not aware
of it. Even babies when they hear loud noise, arguments,
(49:20):
things crashing and stuff, do they not start crying and
strength and screaming it with anxiety and fear. They may
not know what's happening and what have you, but they
know that it's not something good and comforting. So what
grown folks do in the house. Children pick not only witnesses,
(49:40):
they internalize it. And because they're young, they may miss
internalize the message of what's going on, but they internalize
what they witness and hear and see.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
Okay, good As we get ready to wrap up, and
I think Linda for kind of bringing this out talk
about brokenness and this is good. What what are the
last words you'd like to say, doctor Jeffries to our listeners,
especially going through this Memorial Day weekend.
Speaker 5 (50:09):
I think this is this is a perfect launching or
jump off period that if people are really interested and curious,
and with the response of the colleges, that appears that
people are research that research. I mean, just do with
books on broken relationship? How do people experience broken relationship?
Speaker 7 (50:30):
What's the history of this?
Speaker 5 (50:31):
You know, how what kinds of things create brokenness and people?
And then also you know, read some of the histories
about violent experiences that and what the impact not only
is on the victim, but to the children. What's happening.
Begin to educate yourself on that and identify things that
(50:55):
you may see in yourself or a partner. If you
are with a part and you are presuming or your
perception is that your partner is broken, have a conversation.
I mean, if you are living and sleeping with somebody,
you should be able to have a conversation with them
about a concern. Take the time to do some research
(51:19):
and then broach that on the subject. You know, I'm
concerned about you. I worry about how we are, how
it escalates. I worry about you will withdraw and be
unwilling to communicate. And this is male or females. Okay,
I'm not differentiating between that, because women will withdraw women
(51:41):
will back down, women will shut down, Women will not
have relationships once they reach a certain phase and it
becomes more intimate. The more intimate it becomes, the longer
it becomes, then the more you're expected to be open,
be transparent and committed to the relationship. And if that's
(52:02):
something that you struggle with, that's usually when the relationship
will end. So if you're the male partner and you
want to salvage your relationship, have a conversation, but do
some research and ask why do people why do people
feel vulnerability, you know, and what are the signs of
brokenness and communication problems in relationships and then talk about
(52:28):
it and work on it together.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
Right, Okay, sounds good, Doctor Jeffries, you know, will you've
been out, So next week so we can get get
to our topic. We wanted to talk about betrayal trauma. Yes, okay,
next week as a betrayal y'all think about that. Get
your questions together. Betrayal trauma. We'll talk about that with
(52:52):
doctor Jeffries next week.
Speaker 5 (52:55):
Which will actually be a good follow up to this
because betraying is one thing that broken people do. They
tend to portray those who trust them.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
Right, right, thank you Doctor Jeffery for coming in and
on your Memorial Day weekend.
Speaker 5 (53:13):
Oh absolutely, you know right.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
Right, Michell, I missed you too, so we'll talk. And
doctor Jeffrey, don't forget to send me that information.
Speaker 5 (53:23):
I will, I will all right right now, all.
Speaker 1 (53:25):
Right, have a good Memorrow Day weekend, sister.
Speaker 5 (53:29):
Alrighty, you do the same. Enjoy your concert tonight.
Speaker 1 (53:32):
I will all right, bye bye you saying bye. Give
zoe a hug from me.
Speaker 7 (53:41):
I will Zoey bye bye bye bye.
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Speaker 5 (08:17):
Hey late for president.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I know, I said, doctor Jeffries over in the Caribbean somewhere. No,
how you doing, sister.
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Oh, I'm doing good today. I am.
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How about you.
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I'm hanging in here.
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Doc girl, we gotta hang on.
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We're hanging on. We're hanging on. Well, good to have
you here and and good to have you talk. And
I wanted to tell you Doctor Jeffries as we were
starting when I opened it up and talked to Linda,
and Linda talked about that she's a single woman. She's dating,
but she says, Bev, I meet so many men who
(08:59):
are who have trauma, broken men, and she said they
won't have a good life or good relationship because they
are dealing with so much other stuff, Doctor Jeffries, they
don't want to deal with. So I thought, if we
talked about the broke and then she says people she
tell them to go to you know, counseling. Therapy is
nothing wrong and spiritual counseling and correct me if I'm wrong,
(09:21):
Doctor Jeffries. And I told her it's okay to go
to your pastor and he's going to give you that
spiritual counseling, but you need a therapist. Somebody's going to
help you, that's going to help you through whatever your
trauma is, right, doctor Jeffries.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Very well, very well said, very well said, not taking
anything from the barrier of spiritual counseling, But spiritual counseling
in conjunction with one is for your soul and the
other one is for your mind.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Help.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
You know, you go to somebody who's been training and
working with the mind and your mental mental obstacle or
problems or stresses, and then you're more open to experience
what special counseling and guidance can provide you.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Right, So won't we talk about and I know there
are a lot of single women and and she's an
older woman, older woman too, who want to have companionship,
doctor Jefferys, they want to have a relationship, and not
only talking about men, but there are a lot of
women who are traumatized and they need help and they're broken.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
I'm so glad that you pointed that out because I
have to say that, you know, we like to focus
on the brokenness of black males, but actually, if you
are a person of color and you have lived probably
in forty percent of any place in this world, but
(10:57):
particularly North America, you have been bombarded from conception to
whatever period of life you're still standing or the last
place that you were standing with so much suspicion, so
much misperception, so much misunderstanding, denial and exclusion, that we
(11:22):
are all we are all broken and damaged at some
point simply because we've tried to live and survive and
tried to thrive in an environment that's anti up. And
until we can all acknowledge that, then we can better
(11:43):
be able to look and see what's happening with our friends,
our families, our potential lovers, our spouses, our children, and
look at it from a different perspective. It's not us
against them or us trying to save them. We are
a community trying to hold on in this vote called
(12:06):
life and saved each other, and so it has to
be a collaborative community effort. Some people are much more
damaged than others, but what you're exposed to still has
collateral damage. If you're parents of privilege and you've raised
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your children in an environment of privilege and not prepared
them for people who can't recognize or acknowledge what they
have been exposed to, they're going to be exposed to
racism and sexism and classism and if they're trying to
(12:47):
make their way in the world, then they're going to
be judged and excluded or hurt or denied because of
how they look, their gender, whatever their politics are, whatever
they're sexual orientation is, whatever their intellectual philosophy is, they're
going to be judged and excluded in that regard. And
(13:11):
so one of the things that I think is the
most telling, there was an effort that was made the wokeism,
if you want to call it that, and people understand
what I'm talking about, and the concept of being woke
is it was kind of like a revitalization of what
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we went through in the sixties and seventies when we
were talking about a reimagination of black being beautiful, of
Black being strong, of black brothers and sisters being of
one accord, and black families working as a collective in
the black community and what have you. And then that
(13:53):
expanded to include people from indigenous cultures, from other in
brown communities and what have you, and that all contributed
to that wocism that we grew into, where when we
look at who we are and who are our friends
and neighbors, is begin to question and read and discuss
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intellectually as to what the dynamics are and what is
the purpose and the goals of the dynamics. That was
too much.
Speaker 7 (14:26):
That was too much.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
And so when you see an onslot of people trying
to kill a concept, that means that that concept has
dangerous consequences for the dominant culture. You know, it was
the same thing that happened with Black and Beautiful during
the time when people were letting on each other and
(14:48):
supporting each other and what have you, drugs were introduced,
people then were incarcerated for the smallest infractions and people
were killed in the streets. And then once drugs were
introduced and the people who had grown up without had
access to ill guiden, money and power and what have you.
(15:10):
And we're still reaping some of the consequences for that
because then the drug, the drug deals has such a
long lasting and continues to be impact on any ability
to build and maintain a healthy family, community, school system,
intellectual community, or leadership that would serve the whole community.
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So we're all damaged, we're all broken, And until we
can stand in that regard and understand that and accept that,
then we begin to look at each other not being
directed or misperceiving what we see based on what other
people promote and advertise, but what we know and understand
(16:00):
so when we try. Then we talk about intimate relationships.
Two people with one left leg, two people with two
left legs broken, you know, can I run a race
together effectively unless they understand that they first have to
heal that broken leg. They're both broken legs, and one
(16:23):
may be more damaged than the other, but they have
to be supportive and work on healing and mending and
rehabilitating each other's broken leg in order to be able
to first walk and then possibly run, and being able
to do that with the understanding I know where you've been,
I know what you've been through, and we've gone through
(16:45):
this together. We can do this. And that's just a
way of trying to envision what a positive, healthy intimate
relationship could and should be built. If we're talking about longevity,
we're talking about getting the love and the support and
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the concern and kindness that we all seek and that
we all deserve, and so being able to tell ourselves
the truth. You know, Black women have been programmed to
think that we're stronger than our men, that we're healthier
than our men, that our men are weak because they
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don't want to grow up, or they've been babies and
all of that. But as the mothers, the sisters, and
the daughters of those, we need to understand how the
black woman has been used as a weapon against black men.
Because once you are once you believe in the matriarchal concept.
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A matriarch rules something, all right, but you have to
have something really a value to rule that benefits you
and whomever it is that's your subjects, whoever it is
your ruling. A woman working hotel lost to support a
household of children, and a male that's not able to
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get a job but not trained to get a job,
but not horrible because of who he is and where
he comes from and how he looks. It's not a
matriarch of anything of value. That's not a power position.
That concept was started in the slave cabins, where the
white slave owners would only deal with the women because
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they knew that there was a demasculating type of environment
to set up. So if we don't learn our history,
if we don't read the books that people now say
are abandon what have you, we don't understand what not where,
not only where we came from.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
But what we've.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Been through and what now we're getting ready to repeat,
and only people in our generation, I understand this is
not new what's happening. This is a recycling, an undoing
of the last seventy years of civil rights and change.
And so as a consequence, we're gonna lose each other
even more until we understand we're all broken, we're all damaged,
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and until we can see that and begin to help
and learn where we can support each other, we're gonna
lose any ability to be understanding or intimate with somebody
because we're gonna be suspicious, they're gonna be jealous. We're
gonna make decisions. I can do it by myself. I'd
rather be by myself. We're gonna understand that hitting each
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other with words or fists is not a way of
showing somebody that you love them, That it takes two
parents committed to the children that they bring into the
world to raise healthy offspring, and that people who have
multiple children and multiple settings and fractured family structures are
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only doing further damage to their generations. And that becomes
the legacy and the promise of what to expect, And
it sounds so I guess, so sad, so bleak and
what have you. But it's a sad and bleak time,
it really is. And then we have these other foods
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out there who play on the other side. That's still
a dynamic from the slave master's things. There were all
ways the django type of situations where there was somebody
for extra food or extra used clothing and something would
sell out anybody on the plantation, you know, so that
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fosters what it conflicts with that person's credibility and ethics,
but it also builds a high level of distrust. Is
that not where we are?
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Yes, it is.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
I mean.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
I can't believe this, but I've been doing this work
for almost well really fifty years, and we have come
full circle. I remember when doctor Harper and I were
in graduate school and we were talking about what was
the prime research that was going on and many of
the universities by young black scholars and what have you.
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It was the black on black crime. And if you
follow that back, that was directly tied to the drug
trade and having them been pitting, you know, people who
may not have had a dime, but they respected their eldest.
There's some places were off limits. You wouldn't do You
wouldn't be disrespectful to a pastor, You wouldn't be disrespectful
(21:54):
to big Mama or big Daddy, or do anything to
hurt anything in their home or the eldest who had
been in your community. And all of those people went
inside there and they never came back out because nothing
was off limits. Children learning war maneuvers, how to protect themselves,
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going back and forth to school, and getting used to gunfire.
That's not normal.
Speaker 8 (22:21):
That is not normal.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
And so all of that plays a part in how
we try to be romantic and be in love. And
then we watch television and we see these romantic versions
of the happy ever after, the Cinderella stories, the people
who have the resources and our and we fantasize and
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we want that, and that's normal. But you got to
have somebody's present to be there. You and me got
to have two a couple. So that's the reality of it.
We're all broken. We are all broken in some place,
and some more than others, and some never survive the brokenness.
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But I do understand, and it's sad to admit. We
cannot begin with step one with healing until we acknowledge
where we hurt and why we hurt and who hurt us.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
And that's important because a lot of times, doctor jeffries,
we don't want to acknowledge who hurt us. And that's
the big thing. And as we always say, hurt people
hurt people.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Exactly that that is yes, that hurt people have and
hurt people seek god other hurt people because they seek
out We all seek out somebody that we think that
are a little more damaged than us, so that we
can have a false sense of superiority over I'm healthier
than you, I'm stronger than you. And you know, one
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of the things that we were talking specifically about black
males and stuff, one of the things that black males
encounter and have to contend with is, like I said,
there's always been this force to demasculate black males because
the threat of an informed, intelligence, competent, well educated, healthy
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black male who knows and understands and is steel is
appropriate in his statue and where he comes from and
knows who he is, is a threat. We see that
all the time. We see we see that. The only
thing that comes from that is that then what we
(24:43):
do is that we mess with the schools, We increase
the expulsion rates in school. We then have a pipeline
from schools where you get so many expulsions and those
are overly used on black males and female And then
where does that go through. Well, if you're not in school,
(25:05):
you're out in the streets, and if you're out in
the streets, then you're subject to law enforcement. Screwtiny And
why are you out in the street? And you have
now accepted the fact that because everybody thinks I'm weak,
and because I may feel weak and scared and unsure
of myself because of what I've been through, I'm gonna overcompensate.
(25:29):
I'm gonna go out there and be a bigger man,
a bolder man, a crazier man, a more violent man,
you know, than anybody else is out there then, And
so that means we're all at risks because when you're
pumped up to be hyper masculine, there's no sensitivity or
thoughts or for thoughts for anybody. Everybody's at risk. What
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do we have now? We've got people killing their parents,
we got people killing their children. We got people killing
women while they're pregnant with their how we got people
killing women who in a houseful with nothing but babies
and just coming in. They're like they're an enemy and
what have you. So there's math, math, mental illness, and
(26:13):
it's almost like everybody's been getting appealed yeah and taking
it and we're all tripping.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Right. So when we're talking about brokenness, and this is
for men, men and women, doctor Jeffries, we have to
go back, and I love it you you said it
so eloquently. Go back to our history and think what
our ancestors went through. And they were broken and they
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didn't know what to do. They kept on going, even
being doctor Jeffries being broken exactly.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
But now, remember the original ones that were enslaves had
a culture, they had history, and they knew who they were,
and the job of enflavement was to erase that. And
that's why slave owners mixed up different tribes. That's why
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nobody necessarily goll came from one area because then those
people had a shared history and culture. They had a
shared language, they had us, they had shared rituals. So
if you mix everybody up, they can't talk to each other,
they don't trust each other. I mean, there was still
the same human dynamics where there were tribes against tribes
(27:37):
and all of that. But if you took them out
of that, and their common thing was they had it
from a black homeland, that was one point of commonality.
But if we couldn't communicate, if we didn't understand each other,
when we were all distrustful of that, then that was
what they fed on. That's what they promoted and vote
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in people not to.
Speaker 8 (28:01):
Trust each other.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
So it was hard to find love and comfort of
any kind of kindness in that. And to make sure
once you were impregnated, and you were impregnated for economic
value to the owners, you were not impregnated just to
raise They were either going to work or they were
going to be sold. But no families were allowed to
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be primarily intact, and you never knew how long you
would be able to keep whatever children that you burst
into the world together. You always expected that they were something,
something was gonna happen to them. They were going to
be gone. And I think probably one of the most
compelling things that stuck with me in the movie Amistards,
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when those mothers were carrying those efforts and jumping off
in the water or throwing the babies overboard because they
didn't know what they were going to But they saw
how they were treated on those ships, and they knew
they didn't want to They knew they could not protect
their children as they decided that they'd rather see them
die and know where they were then to not know
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what was happening to them and just think what we
drive a mother to do that?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
So, But you can't understand this stuff if you don't
read it and understand and put it in contexts.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Good hold on, doctor Jefferson and take a break and
continue talking. As we're talking today. We're just talking. And
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Speaker 1 (31:28):
And we're talking on this relationship day. Doctor Jeffries. We're
going to our phone lines to talk to some of
our listeners. WD.
Speaker 9 (31:36):
I A Hi, Pad, Hey Ben, Happy frie to you
and doctor Jeffrees.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Happy friye to you. Pad. I'm doing well in yourself.
Speaker 9 (31:49):
I am wonderful.
Speaker 8 (31:50):
Thank you for asking. I didn't have a relationship question.
Speaker 10 (31:54):
I just wanted to say hey to you, ladies.
Speaker 9 (31:56):
I haven't talked to you this month, and happy but
lady Birthday, Happy belady Mother's Day and all the.
Speaker 8 (32:03):
Other good stuff.
Speaker 9 (32:04):
It's always a pleasure to hear your voice.
Speaker 8 (32:07):
Dam I love you.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I love you, Patt, And it's always a pleasure to
hear your voice. Happy Memorial Day and have a good
time and be safe, sister.
Speaker 8 (32:19):
I will thank you, sweetie. Same to you and doctor Jeffries.
Speaker 7 (32:22):
And you're listening, audience.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
All right, Thank you, Pat, see you be all right.
Bye bye. Hi Keith, Yes, ma'am, yes, what do you say?
Speaker 8 (32:36):
Well, I've been traumatized, are you if you? Ladies? We
called last year in August when they're on the truck
robbery and Krogus. Well there was me oh and yes, yes, ma'am,
and and and the way the they had me get
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on the ground face down and the guy had that
gun point at my head. That just turned my life. Yeah,
told around and right now, you know, I'm seeing the
surpast and I'm seeing a Psychcaptris.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Good god, how are you doing with that?
Speaker 5 (33:25):
Well?
Speaker 8 (33:26):
The first the first four months, I didn't go nowhere,
and I stayed in the house.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
You know.
Speaker 8 (33:32):
You know, I had built a little little house in
the back of the house, and before five months I
just didn't just went into my little shelf. And until
my wife till around told me that, you know, she
was getting fed up because I do have a family
and you know, in the main house. So when I
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started seeing my Psycaptrist, you know, I started getting.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Betta good good.
Speaker 8 (34:02):
But but you know, you know I'm just now start
saying the therapist. But you also you also have to
help yourself too, you know, because also what I'm doing there,
you know, I'm getting out more. Okay, you know, I'm
start going around people, but it's still affect my mentor
(34:24):
because whenever I go out, you know, I'm still thinking
that somebody is following me.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Right, I got you. I got you. Well, let me, Keith,
continue to go to your they get that therapist and
the psychiatrist. If you're going to that, continue to work
on that. Keep and work on yourself. It's gonna get better.
Don't stop now, don't don't stop. Okay.
Speaker 8 (34:49):
Oh oh, I'm definitely not because before that I was
I was a real strong person. I was hard to break.
But that just broke.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
I get it. I get it, brother, I get it.
I get it. I get it. Keith. Well, God bless you,
and keep on going to your therapy. Okay, I will
thank you, Keith. Thank you. Yeah, keep going, brother. You
know what, Keith, I remember years ago when I was
in graduate school, I got mugged. It was on my
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way to work. Now I'm in I'm a student and
I had to work through that. And I have a
problem with people walking behind me. Keith. I don't like
anybody to walk because the guy who mugged me was
coming behind me. But I get it. But I'm proud
of you, Keith. Doctor Jeffery is proud of you. I'm
sure say that. Keep ongoing, and I'm sorry that happened
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to you. Wow w D I a chaplain commings, Hey, chaplain.
Speaker 8 (35:52):
Listen.
Speaker 9 (35:52):
Doctors were a thing developing the mom with females who
were then come back. Uh they you know, they're gettingmates
and everything that is. This is fine, but I just
want like to say, dot deaf. You know you they
don't want you to hear what they did and come
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back and they come up on some of the other
veterans that they were well for different things like that.
I asked them, police, step away.
Speaker 8 (36:20):
You wouldn't be.
Speaker 9 (36:20):
Able to stand what they had to go through. That
was lost of life and some of those people had
take lives right and they love you to death, but
that you know that that's something else and becoming becoming
something else that I talked to several young ladies now
and that you know, and I just told them, I said,
you know this is this is a problem now yeah,
and it's amazing. You don't have the chotage. I'm gonna
(36:43):
go see it look like as a shorty good men. Anyway,
I just doing things. I pray God they come on,
come on back on lane. But these young ladies and
then some of them want to retire and they tell
almost but you know you re tied the military thirty seven,
twenty years old. You know, you might be a commander
something and you want somebody, but they don't want you
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to hear howdy what they had to do and come back.
Speaker 10 (37:07):
To just step away somebody. You're shot and they appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (37:10):
Don't want to tell you that because you some of
them get attitude. But I don't mind telling the you
that I had with you though, So that's I just
want to bring it out because it's becoming a problem now.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Thank you, chaplain coming bye, bye common man. Hey, Bill,
you know what I'm doing well and you.
Speaker 10 (37:32):
Doing well? Doing well? Hello, the doctor Jeff is on
the other side. Bill, I heard your first caller of
Linda earlier, and I want to I want to speak
only be broken the subject of broken. You know. Uh,
I've engaged in conversation and uh relationships with women in
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the past that has endured a lot of different things.
And people become broken for a lot of different reasons,
you know, we know, right, So I heard women speak about,
you know, you know, being divorced. They were broken behind
a divorce to have kids with a man that's no
longer around, you know, due to the divorce. I know,
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women just going to depression, become depressed after having a baby.
They was broken.
Speaker 8 (38:19):
You know.
Speaker 10 (38:19):
I know women that has engaged in relationships that were
twenty years old, but they were still upset about something
that went on in that prior relationship. So this broken
thing is not a black man issues. It's a people's issue.
So until we learn to understand why we may be broken,
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what are we going to do about it? Then we're
not doing ourselves any good as a whole.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
This.
Speaker 10 (38:48):
If I'm broken and you may be broken, If I
fix myself, you don't fix yourself, We're probably not gonna
work well together because we're gonna still be looking at
those issues.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Right.
Speaker 10 (38:58):
So I just want to quick say that this is
not just a black man's issue. This is a people's issue,
whether you're black, white, or whatever.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Right, you know.
Speaker 10 (39:06):
Yeah, So if we're gonna focus on this narrative, let's
let's let's include everybody so we maybe can propare some
things as a culture of people. All right, I appreciate you, Bill, thank.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
You, coming man, thank you. W D I a unforgetful, Well, yes,
you only are unforgetful.
Speaker 7 (39:28):
Oh missus, Johonathon, I've been broken twice. Can I talk
to a doctor. Jeffreybody.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Okay, come on talk to us.
Speaker 7 (39:38):
Let's school was the first one. When I was a kid, Beth,
I said, I think a nine years old. I went
to the Lotty Berkeley stand to get amberger in a
milkshack with my friends, and I came home. Coming back home,
the black and white pulled up on me. I'm talking
about police people. They had a black and white call
back in my day, and it was a Missus police.
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They out the car, came over us and said, what's
in that sec boy? I said, hamburger, Sir, give me that.
He said, give it to him. I gave it to him.
He opened up, got in and looked around, then threw
my hamburger on the ground. Bell, you know, cold bloody.
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I'm telling you, Bell, that hurted me. And the second
time was I was throwing paper, you know, for the
message trush room. It was afternoon. People, y'all don't know that.
I think it was that I could be wrong. And
then again I quit.
Speaker 6 (40:40):
And they called the police on me. Bell and the
sheriff department came by my mama house was going to
arrest me. Said something about sixty some dollars that I
owed him. I hain't old them nothing do I didn't
you know?
Speaker 1 (40:55):
So that broke you, okay?
Speaker 7 (40:57):
So yes, ma'am, so you you died.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Okay, So you continue to think about that?
Speaker 7 (41:03):
Huh, yes, ma'am, all these lies you know. So my
mother went on and got the money and gave it
to the sheriff department. I mean the sheriff that came
to the house. I wondered, could I get a lawsuit
of something like that on this store because it's the trip.
I ain't never heard police coach house.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Right, So that happened years old. I don't know. You
need and you need to talk to a lawyer.
Speaker 7 (41:26):
But the last thing, it's the last thing.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
What's the last.
Speaker 7 (41:29):
Jeffer I wanted Doctor Jeffery. I want to thank you
for everything that you said today because you one hundred
percent right, and I really appreciate you put it out
there like that, everything, especially with the situation that we're
dealing with the black women as then weaponized against the
black men. And thank you, doctor Jeffrey. I agree with everything.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Thank you, unforgetting by unforgetful, by unforgetful, doctor Jeffries.
Speaker 5 (42:01):
I'm here.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
I want to start with Keith blessed. It's hard who
was traumatized. He was rob I remember that doctor Jeffery
is at the Kroger. Oh my goodness, did you hear Keith?
Speaker 5 (42:13):
I did hear Keith.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
What do you say to Keith?
Speaker 5 (42:17):
I think you said it. Well, you know, having had
mental illness and receiving treatment for it, that is one
of the most courageous things that we can do when
you recognize that there's a problem and you have the
courage and the commitment to follow through on it. Because
therapy is not easy. It's not easy looking into yourself
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and your background and your past and all of that.
But when the commitment is there and the desire for better,
less painful, less stressful, less fearful life, I applaud anybody
who goes through therapy and completes the process, and I hope,
like you asked him to do, to continue to stick
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to it and we both wish them well yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Yeah. Second thing, Chaplain Cummings mentioned about women who have
been in the service, doctor Jefferies, and you know, trying
in those veterans and they've been in combat, but being
with somebody asking them will tell me about comeback, and
Chaplain comes say that's not a good thing, because that
they were already probably traumatized, especially women going into combat
(43:26):
or being in the service exactly.
Speaker 5 (43:29):
And you know the thing about it if you have
been in combat, And we learned that very early because
we remember a lot of the guys who were fortunate
enough to come back from y Vietnam, right and we
saw how devastated many of them were. And if you
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could not tell from somebody who had been in contact,
and most of them were like men children because they
were so young when they were drafted and being over
and exposed to all of that violence and then the
foreign land land, not knowing the language, the culture, and
all of this. You have to understand. Unless somebody volunteers
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to talk about their military experience, particularly if they are
veterans and had served in a war, you don't ask,
you know, you just don't ask because we don't know
how they've packed it away. You know, we don't know
if they've had therapy, We don't know if you know,
(44:33):
how if they're prone to having flashbacks or whatever. But
however it is, and they're managing it to keep it
at bay unless they're willing to talk about it. Just
respect that they've done their service on behalf of everybody.
And that's a hard thing. I mean, that's a hard
thing to do, and we need to acknowledge that.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
Yeah, and I think Chaplin commings for calling and say
that because he's a veteran and he's retired. But yeah,
and people don't understand that. And we understand now that
we're hearing doctor Jeffers, so many of the veterans have
PDSD exactly exactly.
Speaker 5 (45:15):
That is very true. And you know, and I think
it's also another thing when we talk about post traumatic
stress syndrome, people who have been in any kind of
violence situation. And the thing that came to my mind
when you said that was men and women who've been
in violence relationship or people who have witnessed violence things.
(45:38):
And now it's more common than ever everybody, from children
to witnesses in family situations and what have You don't
ask people about that. It's not a thing that people
want to just voluntarily bring up or talk about it.
There may be some people at some point in the relationship,
(45:58):
if they're in therapy, they may the therapists may have
that as part of the thing, but let it come
from the person and if they don't bring it up,
you know, where they give you the details of it,
then respect that. Respect things. I mean, unless they're showing
science and you think something is wrong. And if they
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tell you I was a victim of domestic violence or
I witness a violence situation, accepted as that rather than ooh,
what happened? What did he or she do to you?
And all of that, how did you? Don't do that?
Respect respect the privacy of things you know. And I
always encourage people to find out about people's history. And
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most people who've gone through some type of domestic violence
of therapy and what have you, and had sponsors and
all of that, they usually will tell someone you know,
I was in a violence relationship with a person who
was did you know, controlling things to me and what
(47:05):
have you. I'm not ready to talk about it, but
I want to make sure that you know that, so
that you are aware if you have any of those
anger trails, controlling taxes, we can't make it something like that.
They can tell you, but they don't need to tell
you all the gory details, right.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
Good, good, and and I hear coming man says that
brokenness and it's and he's right to say, it's with
all people with black, white, red, yellow, So we know.
Speaker 5 (47:37):
That yes, yes, yes, and I will to some extent, yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
Yeah, to some extent. And and going back when you
talked about doctor Jeffers, people who have been in domestic
violent situation. They have a commercial. Now I'm so glad
they're running this now, doctor Jeffries that they're running in Memphis.
You see little children and they have aspiration. But in
the background they hear mom and dad fighting and arguing
(48:04):
and hitting and open What does that do to that
child who is in a saying who maybe want to
be a doctor or this? And then they're hearing all
that and they have this commercial. I said, oh my lord,
this is good.
Speaker 5 (48:18):
Yeah, they're hearing it, but we also know many of
them have seen it and witness Yes, yes as well.
And those are those messages that they internalize, you know,
because children are impressionable. The people, the two people that
they may love most in this world. Then they see
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the mother who may be receiving on the receiving end
of the vowels, and what is that?
Speaker 1 (48:46):
What is that.
Speaker 5 (48:46):
Telling the little boys and the little girl? This is
what love is? They say, they love each other. You
know And what does that tell you about am I
supposed to do?
Speaker 2 (48:57):
That?
Speaker 5 (48:58):
Is that how I'm supposed to love somebody and what
have you? And you may see it in the little
kids because they become aggressive with other children and what
have you? Kids read what's happening in the family. I
don't care how young you think. They are not aware
of it. Even babies when they hear loud noise, arguments,
(49:20):
things crashing and stuff, do they not start crying and
strength and screaming it with anxiety and fear. They may
not know what's happening and what have you, but they
know that it's not something good and comforting. So what
grown folks do in the house. Children pick not only witnesses,
(49:40):
they internalize it. And because they're young, they may miss
internalize the message of what's going on, but they internalize
what they witness and hear and see.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
Okay, good As we get ready to wrap up, and
I think Linda for kind of bringing this out talk
about brokenness and this is good. What what are the
last words you'd like to say, doctor Jeffries to our listeners,
especially going through this Memorial Day weekend.
Speaker 5 (50:09):
I think this is this is a perfect launching or
jump off period that if people are really interested and curious,
and with the response of the colleges, that appears that
people are research that research. I mean, just do with
books on broken relationship? How do people experience broken relationship?
Speaker 7 (50:30):
What's the history of this?
Speaker 5 (50:31):
You know, how what kinds of things create brokenness and people?
And then also you know, read some of the histories
about violent experiences that and what the impact not only
is on the victim, but to the children. What's happening.
Begin to educate yourself on that and identify things that
(50:55):
you may see in yourself or a partner. If you
are with a part and you are presuming or your
perception is that your partner is broken, have a conversation.
I mean, if you are living and sleeping with somebody,
you should be able to have a conversation with them
about a concern. Take the time to do some research
(51:19):
and then broach that on the subject. You know, I'm
concerned about you. I worry about how we are, how
it escalates. I worry about you will withdraw and be
unwilling to communicate. And this is male or females. Okay,
I'm not differentiating between that, because women will withdraw women
(51:41):
will back down, women will shut down, Women will not
have relationships once they reach a certain phase and it
becomes more intimate. The more intimate it becomes, the longer
it becomes, then the more you're expected to be open,
be transparent and committed to the relationship. And if that's
(52:02):
something that you struggle with, that's usually when the relationship
will end. So if you're the male partner and you
want to salvage your relationship, have a conversation, but do
some research and ask why do people why do people
feel vulnerability, you know, and what are the signs of
brokenness and communication problems in relationships and then talk about
(52:28):
it and work on it together.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
Right, Okay, sounds good, Doctor Jeffries, you know, will you've
been out, So next week so we can get get
to our topic. We wanted to talk about betrayal trauma. Yes, okay,
next week as a betrayal y'all think about that. Get
your questions together. Betrayal trauma. We'll talk about that with
(52:52):
doctor Jeffries next week.
Speaker 5 (52:55):
Which will actually be a good follow up to this
because betraying is one thing that broken people do. They
tend to portray those who trust them.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
Right, right, thank you Doctor Jeffery for coming in and
on your Memorial Day weekend.
Speaker 5 (53:13):
Oh absolutely, you know right.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
Right, Michell, I missed you too, so we'll talk. And
doctor Jeffrey, don't forget to send me that information.
Speaker 5 (53:23):
I will, I will all right right now, all.
Speaker 1 (53:25):
Right, have a good Memorrow Day weekend, sister.
Speaker 5 (53:29):
Alrighty, you do the same. Enjoy your concert tonight.
Speaker 1 (53:32):
I will all right, bye bye you saying bye. Give
zoe a hug from me.
Speaker 7 (53:41):
I will Zoey bye bye bye bye.
Speaker 1 (53:46):
That is doctor Dorothy Jeffries, our behavioral relationship consultant expert.
Speaker 3 (53:54):
The views and opinions discussed on The BEV Johnson Show
are that of the hosts and callers and not those
of the staff and sponsors of wd IA.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
I want to thank you callers, I want to thank
you listeners for joining us this day on the BEV
Johnson Show. We do, we really do appreciate you. So
on well tonight, tonight, tonight, let me say that we
will be celebrating the birthday of Martakus Johnson, better known
(54:30):
as EBT, the DJ at the Rocking Chair coming out.
Very special guests in the house will be Miss Nellie Tiger, Travis.
Doors open up at seven. I'm your host, Beb Johnson.
We're gonna be there, grown folks. It's a grown folks
place at the rocking cheer of Memphis. So until tomorrow,
(54:52):
please be safe. Caep a cool head, y'all, don't let
anyone steal your joy. Until tomorrow, I'm Beb Johnson and
y'all keep the faith Mark Breaker, Take me Home, Boyfriend,
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