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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Jesus fly, Hell yeah America and Jerry.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Hollin for.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
For Nation.

Speaker 4 (00:15):
This is wrong.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
This is Columbia's Morning News with Gary David and Christopher
Thompson on one O three point five FM and five
sixty AM w VOC.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Is it Friday yet? Oh?

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Look it is good morning, and welcome to it. It
is Friday, October third, sixteen after six. Let's get up,
let's go in, let's get this thing done, and let's
get to the weekend.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Morning to you.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
I'm Gary David Christopher Thompson, and see you're with a
bye weekend this weekend. You're rooting for Friday.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
I've been in.

Speaker 5 (00:51):
This has been the most your likesing week. This has
been your bye week.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
This has been great. I wish we could do this
all year long. Well you will after well I don't know.
I don't know when when that will happen for you again,
you know, sooner or later, depending on how the football
season goes for the game Cocks from here on out.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
Yeah, but then there's basketball and then there's baseball, and
it seemingly never ends. So this has been a nice week, yes, good,
and the weather's cooperated. Well, it would have been fantastic,
feels great this morning.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
We're in the mid to upper fifties again this morning
across the Midlands.

Speaker 5 (01:27):
It's going to be great for high school football tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
That's right, it'll actually feel like football will Yeah, beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
You're right.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Your son's he's a senior this year, right, he is
over River Bluff. Yes, okay. Region play starts tonight. It's
always there's not that many games in regions in the
high school football, is there. I mean it's like a
handful of games and that's about it.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
Right, that's when you play in their region with teams
like yeah, yeah, White Nole and Dutch Fork. Yeah, that's
all the region play you want?

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Mmm, election is that region? Yeah? That's all right.

Speaker 5 (02:00):
Well, good luck to your educators tonight. Thank you. He
turned eighteen yesterday. Oh my good did he really? My
baby is eighteen? Wow? Yours have all moved out? Oh yeah,
we've got that for a long time.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
I got a thirty year old now.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
I'm still going through those milestones. But yeah, we have
nothing but adults in our house.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Now.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
It doesn't take long, man, All of a sudden you
turn around there it is right. Run down big stories,
hot topics, aside from the ramblings of two old guys
here on a Friday morning, let's get to what we're
looking at today, and we'll start with well, a dad
and his impassionable a few days ago. That is again
a story that has captivated the nation, and now, of course,

(02:46):
the sad saga of Logan Federico continues to dominate the
news cycle around here as well. Yesterday, Alan Wilson AG
saying he wants Byron Gibson, the Fifth Circuits Solicitor who
Ralph Norman wants impeached. Wilson not calling for that, but
he is wanting Gibson to seek the death penalty against

(03:08):
the alleged killer. Here again a guy with a very
very long rap sheet and a very very short amount
of time, considering Wilson giving the solicitor one week until
next Friday to make a decision, also saying that the
AG's office says, well, they'll be ready to assume the
responsibility of making that decision if Gibson or a staff

(03:33):
doesn't think they can proceed. Now we've also heard back
from the solicitor who says this is creating he claims
a dangerous precedent. So yeah, we got more to talk
about on that front today. The governor also reacting now
to this, saying that, well, what happened should have never happened. Well, yeah,

(03:53):
of course not. And again we're the two sides, the
three sides. This story is number one, the actual execution
of a twenty two year old by a guy who'd
been convicted, arrested and convicted on multiple times, arrested what

(04:15):
close to fifty times in a decade.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
Not anyway, And as your guests pointed out, there's not
enough communication. There's no excuse, given you know, everything's computerized
these days. There's no excuse that all these jurisdictions aren't
aware of what's going on.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yeah, there really is not. So well, I will have
more to say on that. At that protest outside of
the state House the other day, as hearings began on
this most restrictive in the nation potential abortion built in
our state, one woman at least one was arrested and
charged with unruly and disorderly count where she became unruly,

(04:55):
disorderly and then allegedly struck a sentence sergeant at arms,
so she found herself behind bars. She since bonded out
third degree assault and battery the charges against that woman.
Top brass gathering in town here yesterday military commanders, the
annual commanders briefed to the governor. Happens it's called the

(05:17):
annuals what happens every year, right, But one of the
things they talked about yesterday one of the emerging concerns drones. Now,
not to say we've had a big issue with that here,
but there have been issues across the planet with these recently.
So what the Munich Airport was that yesterday had to
shut down because of drones. So the base commanders in

(05:41):
our state to talk to a bit about that yesterday.
We've seen our first measles outbreak of the year. We've
seen these across the country in multiple places, but now
eight confirmed cases in South Carolina, all of these in
the upstate, five of them linked together. A church here
in Columbia and some of their affiliates have sued Richland
County Council accusing leaders of unconstitutionally blocking their one hundred

(06:07):
million dollar plan. They want to redevelop Dutch Square Mall,
or whatever's left of Dutch Square Mall.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Not much.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
The building is still there. The building is still there. Yeah,
the shell they actually want to make this into a
tech and culture center, but they say they're being thwarted
by Richland County leaders because of their religious ties. Yeah,
we'll have to delve into some of that today. Shutdown continues,

(06:35):
Yam kapport today, so there'll be no action in DC,
not a political action at least. But the back and
forth continues now as we're in the day three of
the shutdown, the House speak of Mike Johnson ripping into
Democrats and the mainstream media claiming they're intentionally lying about
healthcare for illegals. And we have seen some of the
mainstream media questions some Democrats about that, and now that

(06:58):
it's resurfaced that debate clip from twenty nineteen when at
the time the potential Democrat presidential candidates were asked about
healthcare for illegals, and as I recall, every single one
of them raised their hand and said they would do it,
they were in favor of it.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
A couple of hands shot up immediately, and then you
could see the embarrassment on the stage as the rest
of them sold, well, I don't want to be the
only one that doesn't say I'm for it, so yes.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
I'm going to have to say I am now. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Meantime, the administration, they're playing a few games that I
honestly I don't like, and now they'd be accused of
hatch hacked violations. HUDD put out on their website this
shutdown was the responsibility of Democrats out of office. Emails
of the Education Department have had their automatic replies changed

(07:51):
to blame Democrats for the shutdown. Now, let's just say this,
if the shoe were on the other foot, okay, and
this was a Democrat administration doing this to the Republicans,
you would be incensed. It's juvenile, my opinion, actually juvenile.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
They're actually playing mariachi music in the press room.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Caroline Levitt yesterday again predicting thousands of federal workers will
be laid off. I don't like this idea either, And
I think if this happens any blame right now and
pulling into the polls have indicated that more people than
not are blaming the Democrats for the shutdown. But if
you start actually firing federal workers, I think that blame

(08:36):
game shifts on a dime. But just my opinion. We've
got some immigration news to talk about. On a couple
of and oh yeah, speaking of the media, new Gallup
poll out. Needless to say, trust in the media here
in this country not good. Matter of fact, now reaching

(08:57):
an all time low in that annual poll that Gallop takes.
It's been bad for a long time, but it had
never been quite this bad. All right, my friends, We've
got those stories and more to discuss here on this
the Friday morning edition of Columbia's Morning News.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Thank you for being with us talking about.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
You gotta keep talking the good job, this stuff that matters.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
I think I've been listening to y'all in the eighteen
year plus.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
Right one old three point five FM at five sixty
am w VOC. This is Columbia's Morning News with Gary
David and Christopher Thompson on one on three point five
FM and five sixty am doub VOC the six forty two.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Good morning and good to have you along. We've got
more news to pass along today on the murder of
Logan Federico, the AG weighing in wanting the Fifth Circuits
Solicitor to seek the best of the death penalty. If
he can't make this happen, AG they'll, they said, they'll,
they'll do it themselves. His office, Allen Wilson's office. Well,

(09:59):
we'll get to that coming up a little bit later on.
They had some other big news items of the day,
but I didn't want to mention this new Gallupole which
will not surprise anybody, that more than seven and ten
of us distrust the mainstream media. That poll released yesterday.
They do this every year. That is a new record

(10:23):
low in the Gallupole survey, finding that only twenty eight
percent of Americans expressed either a great deal or a
fair amount of trust in newspapers, television, and radio to
report the news fully, accurately and fairly, thirty six percent

(10:45):
not very much trust, thirty four percent none at all.
So that's the first time they have been asking this
question now for fifty years, yep, since nineteen seventy five,
and this is the first time that trust in the
media has dropped below thirty percent. Set a record last

(11:07):
year too, is thirty one percent. So our opinions haven't
changed a lot and they never will. Republicans also hitting
a record low in this poll. We're talking single digits
here now. Eight percent of Republicans have any trust at

(11:28):
all in the media eight percent, fifty one percent of
Democrats do have trust in the media. A little wonder
why how now, notice that they're talking about newspapers, television, radio. Yeah,
let me make a point of differentiation here. I know

(11:49):
this program is called Columbia's Morning News and we have
news all right. Me, I'm not a newsperson. Okay, I'm
not a journalist. I didn't go to Jay school. I've
never tried to, you know, present myself as a journalist.
Now I'm here to give you my my take on things.

(12:12):
And sometimes your take on those things is right in
line with mine, and sometimes it's not. But that's my job.
My job is to comment on the news. No, I'm
not Paul Harvey, but I miss here. I miss Paul Harvey.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Man.

Speaker 5 (12:30):
I think the world.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Does kodness sex.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
But when it comes to actually reporting of the news,
that's what we're talking about here. And there's just very little,
very and declining regular numbers of trust and all that.
Interestingly enough, down this is going to be moving forward
the story. Older Americans showed the highest level of trust
in the news, but not a lot publicans over the

(13:00):
age of sixty five, just seventeen percent. When it comes
to young folks, well, let's face it, young folks are
not looking to newspapers or TV or radio to get
their news. So as scary as we think it is

(13:22):
right now, with the way the news has been slanted
in the mainstream media all these years, as scary as
that is, well, is it good news or not that
the younger generations aren't paying attention to those alis to
get their news. I argue that it's not. Actually, you know,

(13:44):
it's the lesser of two evils in my opinion, because
where they're getting their news.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Did I see it?

Speaker 1 (13:51):
I don't remember what the exact number was, but I
ran across this a couple of days ago. It's a
ridiculously high percentage of young people who are getting their
news from TikTok. I'm sorry now, okay, I'll plead ignorance

(14:11):
here because I'm not on TikTok. I have no plans
to ever be on TikTok. How do you get your
news from TikTok, mister Thompson, Well, a lot of people,
you know, record comments, okay, and people see those comments
and think, okay, that's news, or they're they're telling me
what happened, and they're giving me an honest assessment of

(14:31):
what happened and they're doing this and what like or
you see I mean you see it twenty seconds. You
see a quick bite of something, an event with no context,
right and with a some social media influencer doing what
I do every morning on the radio. I give you
my take. I'm not telling you it's a fact. I'm

(14:56):
not digging up facts here and passing them along. I'm
not trying not to follow, you know, anything that's not
factual with what I talk about. But sometimes you don't
ever know I've made mistakes. But again, I'm not trying
to present myself as somebody that's that's that's giving you,
you know.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Hard news.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
But you go on TikTok and if you believe that
the junk you see on there, if that's where you're
getting your news.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
Well, how many how many adults, how many adults our
age get their news from Facebook? And again, exactly again,
it's the same thing. It's you know, it's people you know,
framing the news they want the way they want to,
you know, making comments and then showing you a clip
out of context, and you're forced to come up with
a judgment on your own. And yeah, it's way too much.

(15:46):
I can't tell you how many times. You know, for example,
older people you know who say I heard on Facebook.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
You hear it every day every day. And when I
hear that, and they say, also, it must be.

Speaker 5 (16:01):
True or I saw it on Facebook.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah, this would be like, you know, back in the
day when we were in our twenties and thirties.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah, I get my news from the National Inquirer. Yeah right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Every day I go to the grocery store, I just
sit there for a while and read the Inquirer cover
to cover, and that's how I get my news.

Speaker 5 (16:20):
I know a Marshan and Elvis or together. No, I
saw it. Oh, it was in the news. Living in
the basement of Graceland.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
And everybody who would laugh at you if you said
something my shirt, everybody knew what that was. Problem is
today people don't realize this is the same thing.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
And that was far fetched even in the seventies, and
now what you see online is not so far fetched.
It's just close enough to the news for you to.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Believe it exactly.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
So this begs the question, where can you get your
news anymore? I mean, really, we don't trust the mainstream media.
We shouldn't be trusting social media. Uh where screwed?

Speaker 4 (17:04):
You should trust your own eyes. But even then, AI
is now you got that right? Threatening that Yeah, wow,
what a mess.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
You're listening to Columbia's Morning News on one oh three
point five FM and five sixty AM WVOC. Once again.
Here's Gary David and Christopher Thompson at.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Seven fifteen on a Friday morning. It's the third of October.
It's wonderful to have you here. Appreciate that. I'm Gary David.
That is Christopher Thompson. Morning sir. Now, you know, been
a lot of talk, a lot of buzz this week
about the well, let's call it what it was, and
at the execution of Logan Federico, this reignited win. Her

(17:52):
father testified Tophy. You played some of that audio a
couple of mornings ago when I had to scowl out early,
and it was compelling. Before I get into what we
want to talk about on this today, let me let
me just make this observation. You know, when this first happened,
yeah it was. It was a pretty big news story

(18:12):
around here. It should have never stopped being a big
news story.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
It should have And I'm not taking anything away from
what happened in Charlotte. But it should have been every
bit as big a story as the Ukrainian refugee who
got killed on that Charlotte rail train.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
And it wouldn't have been had it not been for
the father and his testimony and what he had to say.
It took that for the rest of the country to
wake I would say, Wow, I just happened to glance
up on the screen. Here's a story running on Fox
right now about this. This should have not vanished from

(18:56):
our public consciousness. You know, not only the heinousness of
the crime itself, the murder of a twenty two year
old middle of the night, breaking into a home, forcing
her down on her knees, and executing her in the

(19:17):
middle of a crime spree, but the fact that this
guy who's charged with his murder thirty nine arrests in
ten years. Twenty five of those thirty nine were felony charges. Yeah,
he did spend some time behind bars, about six hundred days,
give or take. But the fact that this guy was
out roaming the streets that should have never left the

(19:43):
public arena, the discussion of the public arena. Okay, so
the New News this morning and again it's making national
News I just mentioned. I just sawt up on the
screen as I was talking about this, is that Alan Wilson,
the Attorney General, wants Iron Gibson, the Fifth Circuit solicitor,
to seek the death penalty against this alleged killer, Alexander Dickey. Now, okay,

(20:15):
I'm looking at this state newspaper article. Okay, it comes
to slant here, right, Joseph Busto's writing. It's at least
the second time this year when the Attorney General who's
running for governor has inserted himself into a fifth judicial
circuit case that has gained national attention. I see, I
see where you're going with this one. Yeah, okay, Well,

(20:35):
truth of the matter is, is all the goubment, well
the ones that he's paying attention to, are weighing in
on this case. Now, I remember Nancy Mace accuses Wilson's
office of doing nothing here on this. You know, Nancy
understands how this works. She's made these sorts of complaints
before there's a process, and it doesn't start in the

(20:56):
Attorney General's office. But that's an aside. But Wilson here
says Gibson, you've got until well a week from today,
October the tenth to make a decision, are you going
to charge this guy and seek the well he's charged,
or you're going to seek the death penalty in this
case or not, and that if you can't make that

(21:18):
decision by October tenth, then his office will step in
and assume that responsibility. Gibson's office responding the other day
to this, I remember the logan. Federico's dad says he's
just had no communication with them at all. The office

(21:39):
says they have had conversations, but his office, as they're
working with the CPD too, in their words, meticulously review
research and assess the case against Dicky. That we're not
in a position to ethically make an informed decision about
something of this magnitude in order to meet your imposed deadline.

(22:00):
That was Gibson's response to Alan Wilson, writing, it would
be reckless, irresponsible, and unethical from my office to make
this decision without first having conducted a comprehensive review of
all the evds of the case. Well, I would hope
this happened, and it was in May, wasn't it. It's

(22:22):
been five months, and yeah, I would hope they're a
long way into a comprehensive review of all the evidence
of the case. So Wilson says, make a decision by
next Friday, or we'll make it for you. Gibson responds

(22:47):
saying this creates a dangerous precedent. He says, we've also
heard from the governor, and quite honestly, we probably should
have heard from the governor in may tell you truth,
saying this should never have happened. And now we're debating

(23:07):
who messed up, who should have done something that Again,
that is a debate we should not be having, he says, No,
we should be having this debate. I mean, the governor
themselves said it was unacceptable. This guy was not in
jail at the time of the killing. Now, to his credit,
the governor has been calling for a while now for
bond reform.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Right.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
And also, your guest pointed out yesterday that we're way
past the point where we should not have computers that
coordinate you know. Oh, yeah, when criminals commit crimes in
different jurisdictions, we should know about it.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah, if you miss that.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
We talked to Brian Bennett, who's a retired state law
enforcement officer. He founded a company called a Clearview Justice,
and we discussed that he was back in twenty sixteen.
I think it was part of a task force that well,
it was looking at a lot of things when it
came to justice, criminal justice in our state, and that's

(24:07):
some of the founding findings they had was that with
a lack of communication. Specifically, we were talking about, you know,
keep victim's advocates in these varies and sundry levels of
the judicial system and not communicating with one another when
a case goes from this level to that level and
suddenly the ball gets dropped and the victims themselves are
no longer tof You've got experience with this, yeah, firsthand.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
I mean it's the communication was good back in my case,
but you know, to see what's happening now and to
see you know, these crimes that are reported. But still,
you know, you can't blame Byron Gibson for operating with
less than full knowledge of this guy's history.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
That's the other part that we talked about.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yes, yeah, only just keeping in touch with families, but
you know, maybe quite honestly, more impactfully, how the apartments
aren't keeping up the lines of communication between each other.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
And we talk all the time about the judges and
the fact that they you know, they rule on these cases,
some of them rule without knowing this the full criminal
history of who's appearing before them.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
How in the world can it be and this day
and age of technology exactly that that a case in
front of a judge, and that judge has apparently no
way of getting the background on the person standing in
front of them right now, or has that does that work,
has an incomplete rap sheet? You know, here's their South
Carolina crimes, but we don't know what he's or she
has done in Georgia or North Carolina or Florida in

(25:37):
the last two years. Right, the Governor's right, it never
should have happened. Yeah, what are we going to do
about it?

Speaker 5 (25:45):
Yeah, that's the next question, Right, what.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Are you going to do about it? When are we
going to fix it.

Speaker 5 (25:49):
So there is no more?

Speaker 1 (25:51):
This was the same argument tofen back at nine to eleven. Right, yeah, true,
when various law enforcement agencies, well, this is this is
our this is our stuff. Here, We're all right, we're
not going to share it with you. We're not going
to communicate it with you.

Speaker 5 (26:04):
And thus became the Department of Homeland Security.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Right, that's where DHS grew out of that. Yeah. Yeah,
we got our own version of that right here going on.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
Where the spirit of America lives Offgivery Day.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
We've stuck each other and where we're coming from and
learned from each other.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
One on three point five FM and five sixty am
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Speaker 2 (26:35):
Seven one.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
All right, as we mentioned ice news to pass along
on this Friday morning, Apple has dropped an app.

Speaker 5 (26:49):
It's called ice Block. This is a tool that's been used.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Widely, and they removed it from the app store yesterday
after a Pambondi expressed concerns that this app was putting
law enforcement officers at risk.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Of course it is.

Speaker 4 (27:09):
I don't understand why it would have taken Apple so long.
At the first sign of violence toward ice you would
think that they would have investigated and found that app
and immediately taken it down.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Yeah, that was one of a number of tracking apps
that Joshua Yan used before he opened fire from that
rooftop in Dallas that killed one detainee and critically entered
two others. Although his target of course with the ICE officers,

(27:46):
but he wound up killing and severely wouning two immigrants.
So yeah, one of the day in time, could you
imagine that would be acceptable to carry an app on

(28:08):
your platform that people can download to track law enforcement
where they are.

Speaker 4 (28:14):
To endanger their lives. And that's that's the only way
you can sum up apps like that. You know, it's
you may look at it as if well, you know,
I'm trying to stay one step ahead, you're endangering the
light that that kind of appened dangers the lives of
every one of those law enforcement officers.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Again, we've seen a thousand percent increase and assaults on
ICE officers a thousand percent increase.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
And that, by the way, is why ICE is on edge,
as you might expect. So I've seen videos and I
guess it happened in Oregon yesterday where you know, you
said you had some pushing and shoving and officers reacted.

Speaker 5 (28:59):
Of course, what.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Are they supposed to do?

Speaker 4 (29:01):
Yeah, you're physically assaulting an officer A but B you're
doing it, you know, against a force that is on
edge after attacks against it.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Sure, so that's not going to stand now, of course,
so the National Guard's been sent into Portland. This is
going to be fascinating to watch. But now you've got
you know, ICE and the FEDS saying that their their
facility which has been under attack nightly. They's either getting
little or no help from local police, not because local

(29:34):
police don't want to help them, but because of political
directives from city leaders. Again, let's for a moment remove
ourselves from the current times and the context of all
of this and just imagine a time where you would
have mayors and city leaders directing police to turned a

(30:00):
blind eye to violence and intimidation in their cities. At
what point, at what time and where does that make
any sense at all? But that's exactly what's going down now,

(30:27):
Cavilla Walmsley, who is the director of Portland's ICE office.
So they have faced violence now for more than one
hundred consecutive knights, and that Portland police has been largely
absent because that's what the mayor and city council they
have told them to do. It's not just chants and signs,

(30:53):
it's bottle rockets, it's rocks breaking windows, lasers shot of
the eyes of ICE officers, barricades blocking vehicles and yeah,
I'm pushing and shoving as you mentioned. And again considering
we just had this incident in Dallas where one immigrant
and two other immigrants were critically when one was killed

(31:15):
and two were critically wounded, it's still You've got the
mayor of Portland City Council telling police officers no, do
not respond. It's insane. Now in Memphis, Bondi says nearly
one hundred the rest have been made so far after

(31:36):
the National Reguard moved in there, about ninety three over
the course of the last couple of days. And this,
let's back up a minute. We told you about this
story last week in Des Moines, Iowa. I think it's
the Des Moines Public School District is the biggest district
in the state. They hired a guy named Ian Roberts

(32:02):
to delete that district. He was the superintendent. And turns
out that well, he was an over stated his visa.
In other words, he was in this country illegally. When
he was apprehended, he'd had what a couple thousand dollars
cash on him, he had a gun, a weapon on him.

(32:26):
Here's a guy in this country illegally who was heading
up the biggest school system in the state of Iowa.

Speaker 5 (32:37):
Somebody dropped the ball on that process.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah, and that wasn't the only thing that he wasn't
forthcoming about. Yeah, guess what, Doctor Ian Roberts was not
doctor Ian Roberts at all. He was Ian Roberts, but
he wasn't a doctor. He never he fabricated a doctoral degree,
claimed that he had an a doctoral and urban education

(33:02):
leadership from Morgan State University, and the school board well
fessed up to that the other day. They say they're
a victim too. They didn't know about all this. You're

(33:25):
gonna hire somebody to lead your school district, and I mean,
how much due diligence would have taken to realize that
this guy wasn't who he said he was.

Speaker 4 (33:36):
I guess the only thing that would have been worse
is if he had actually been in the classroom with kids.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Yeah, well exactly, at least he wasn't there, right. He
did attend Morgan State from two thousand and two to
two thousand and seven, but he didn't get a degree.
You didn't have a undergraduate degree. I'm not real sure.
He certainly didn't have a doctoral degree.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Oh, we've had our instance of that around here, you know,
with due diligence, you know not not well, how about
us to the detention center for one originally kind of
do the due diligence on a high over there. You
remember that a couple of years ago. Anyhow, Okay, so
ice is under attack and in places like Portland, Oregon,

(34:23):
the mayor city council they don't see a problem with that.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
You're listening to Columbia's Morning News on one oh three
point five FM on five sixty AM WVOC. Once again,
here's Gary David and Christopher Thompson.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
It's a fifteen good morning. It's Friday, October third. It's
day three of the government lockdown. I guess so Congress
is off today, right, jam Kapoor. So we'll get today
four and day five. Probably at least last last lockdown
shut down about six plus years ago, lasted about a month,

(35:01):
as I recall, about four weeks. And by the looks
of it, this one could definitely do that too.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (35:10):
Polling numbers could change that.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
They could. Matter of fact, I saw a blurbarder this morning.
Four different polls out today's are blaming the Republicans for
this as opposed to the Democrats. So the war of
words that goes back and forth. Even though Congress is
taking the day off today, the war words continues. Remember
the Democrats are they're they're wanting. They say, all they

(35:33):
want is to have these subsidies. I remember the word
tof there you go, Hey, how about that these subsidies
to continue. Now, it is a fact that these subsidies sunset,
they go away, and you're looking at you know, pretty

(35:54):
still increases for people on Obamacare, what raised to go
up one hundred and ten hundred eleven percent on average.
That they're saying, Okay, those subsidies weren't always in effect.
This is part of the pandemic thing, right. But at
the same time, Democrats will tell you we're not. We're

(36:16):
not now, we're not giving health care to illegals. So
this is the Republican talking point is that, yeah you are.
And the House Speaker yesterday accused Democrats and the mainstream
media of intentionally lying about.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Health care for egal illegals.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
He says the Democrats want to restore nearly two hundred
billion dollars in health care benefits for illegal immigrants in
exchange for reopening the government so this is the Republican
talking point and as far as the complicit mainstream you, CNN,

(37:03):
for example, cut away from a House Leadership press conference
on Thursday yesterday after Johnson started talking about the Democrat
funding plan and how it provide healthcare benefits for illegals.
CNN decided to pull the plug on that they didn't
want to broadcast that. The anchor on at the time

(37:28):
tried to fact check Johnson's statements that despite Jake Tapper
acknowledging Wednesday that Democrats are seeking to eliminate a provision
that cracks down on certain states who provide illegal immigrants
with emergency Medicaid coverage. We talked about this yesterday. This
was part of the Biden thing. Yeah, so if you're
here illegally and you need to see a doctor, well

(37:52):
you just go to an emergency room.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
You go to an er.

Speaker 5 (37:56):
I mean, we don't turn anybody away in the emergency.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
Room, right.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
So the Democrat proposal would restore billions in funding for
well other things too, aside from health care free llegals,
Billions for foreign aight, for public broadcasting, and of course
they want a permanent extension of these subsidies for Obamacare,

(38:21):
the Biden version of Obamacare, which made it, you know,
very cheap to get well.

Speaker 4 (38:27):
If you're treating people in an er that you're not
budgeted for, where do you think that money comes from?

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Well, now there's an excellent point, mister Thompson.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
Not only that, but are you staffed for that or
are you equipped for that? Is your er big enough
to treat all of your regular patients?

Speaker 1 (38:45):
What about the paying customers? Yeah, you know, the ones
that have health insurance, the ones that are here legally,
the ones who are Americans.

Speaker 4 (38:53):
I mean, it's sad to say, but you go to
an er on a Friday night into a Saturday morning
and you're going to be waiting for a while.

Speaker 5 (38:59):
Oh yeah, and.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
It's sad to say that line may be a little
bit longer with the number of people in front.

Speaker 5 (39:08):
Of you who may or may not be legally in
this country. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Elizabeth Warren blew up when she was being interviewed on CBS.
When the host confronted her on this very topic about
health care to non citizens. He pointed out the counterproposal
the Democratic parties put together, which again Republicans claim will

(39:37):
provide health care to non citizens. She says it's a
flat out lie, absolutely not. But then this, of course,
this video is resurfaced now of the twenty nineteen Democratic
presidential primary debate, one of them when the candidates were
asked if they would support providing health care to people

(39:59):
who are here illegally. Savannah Guthrie was the moderator at
that debate. Raise your hands if your government plan would
provide coverage for undocumented immigrants. There were ten Democrats on
that stage, and they all some quicker than others, but

(40:23):
they all raised their hand. That was six years ago,
and some of those Democrats are in office right now
in Congress, Eric Swalwell, Kirsten gillibrand Bernie Sanders. Yeah, but

(40:43):
it's also funny to go back and see the videos
from you know, back in the day when the Chuck
Schumers and Hillary Clinton's of the world were dead set
against this idea, and now they're all for it.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
And we know why that is.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
By the way, it's all about keeping a representation Democrats
in Congress, because remember, but Biden changed the way the
census works too, although Trump wants to change it back.
This is why Biden wanted to county legals and the census.
You get more members in the House of Representatives that way.

(41:14):
But on the flip side of this, now, the Republicans
do a couple things that I don't like. Well, number one,
some of this is just juvenile to me, and that's well,
but it's serious business. I mean, the violation of the
hatch add for a hut on their website to blame
the Democrats for the shutdown. Then you've got the Education Department.

(41:36):
The out of office email responses include language that blames
Democrats for the shutdown. Now we could say, oh, that's
kind of funny. It wouldn't be funny if it were
a Democrat administration and you email the Department of Education
and you got to kickback reply that blame Republicans for

(41:59):
shutting down the government.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
True, that wouldn't be funny at all.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
By the way, Timing wise, I had to check Yam
Kapor and did last night. So they will have votes today.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Oh, they will have votes today. Ok.

Speaker 4 (42:10):
In fact, this morning around eleven thirty is when they'll
convene again, and they will probably vote on both the
Republican proposal, which would fund the government through at least
mid November, and the Democrat alternative which of course is
the you know what pumps those subsidies into a new year.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
And by the way, I wish I had more time
to spend on this, but this I think is problematic
for the Republicans. And now you've got well some Republicans
getting a bit unervoud by it. And that is the
White House assessment, and Caroline Levitt mentioned it again yesterday,
predicting thousands of federal workers will be laid off. I
will tell you this, if that happens, if they start

(42:53):
firing people in the federal government, there'll be a lot
of people out there who right now might be blaming
Democrats for this, and mad the Democrat Party.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
I love.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
You know, you're gonna have a number of those people
that are gonna suddenly say no, wait a minute. That
is not gonna be a good look for the Republicans
if that comes to pass.

Speaker 4 (43:11):
I agree, pr wise, it's not it's not a good move.
But on the other hand, when when else would you
have an opportunity to get rid of the bloat in
this government if not?

Speaker 5 (43:20):
Now, I know.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
It's dysfunction of the highest levels.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
Yeah, that's the best we can say about it, right, true,
very true.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
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Speaker 1 (43:56):
It's eight forty. It's time for our final thoughts for Friday,
October third. Put you on the hot seat here, Tobe.
Have we missed anything? Uh hmmm, I mean we mentioned
the Taylor Swift album is out. There's your big story
of the morning, apparently the big story of the morning here. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:13):
I mean we've hit the shutdown, We've hit violence in
our area, we've had international violence. I don't know, you
haven't mentioned Trump in Venezuela. That's a story out.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
Oh yeah, declaring war on the cartels.

Speaker 5 (44:29):
Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
Other than had you mentioned the media and distrust in
I don't know that there are any bigger stories out
there right now.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
I think that's different. Yeah, let's go home there. Just
let Taylor play us out cue the Taylor Swift album. Oh,
you have a couple other things to mention here. Number
when the annual Commander's briefed to the governor, which there
be big total ignorance here.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
I didn't even know this thing existed. I never heard
of it either. I had neither.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
But they do it every year, so top commanders from
military installations. We've got a number of them across the state,
as you know. We're here in town yesterday to brief
the governor. And one of the emerging security concerns they mentioned,
and one they say they deal with routinely is drones.

(45:24):
Now I've not heard of, you know, that's the sort
of drone activity that we're hearing about specifically in Europe
right now. Is it yesterday the Munich airport had to
shut down? I think so, I mean it was yesterday
again because of drone activity. Now, a lot of a
lot of what they're they're dealing with on military basis
here is just you know, folks who you know went
out and bought a drown and they're just flying it around.

(45:47):
Yet they stray over, you know, military installations, and suddenly
there's a problem. So yeah, if you're a drone owner,
you probably know that. I mean, you don't go out
to Columbia metropolit Airport and started flying a drone around.
You don't go flying one over the fences of Fort Jackson.
But so far, at least no reports of there being

(46:09):
any nefarious drone activity, at least not in our state.
But it's becoming a bigger PA. You know, when I
was a kid and I grew up at least for
the first thirteen years of my life on Air Force
Bass and the big deal there, and there's there's still around,
I guess, but it was a big deal there with
the the remote control little planes, little RC planes.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
I don't know if people still.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
Do that or not tell you the truth, but they
had sections on the base that were set aside, but
they built a little runway for them and everything, and
that's where people wanted to fly these RC planes would go.
They go out to that area and they fly them around.
I never did, but it was kind of fun to watch.
But these drones are ain't the same thing.

Speaker 4 (46:54):
No, those RC planes didn't come with cameras and microphones. No,
and you and use them to spy. No, but now
you can.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
We're seeing our first measles outbreak of the year here
in South Carolina. And this has been you know, a
trend nationally, but so far it's been so good here.
But now eight confirmed cases, all in the Upstate. Now
five of these are linked together. Yes, it's all members
of yeah, one household, but Noah, eight is well eight
more than you want to see. Now, let me say this,

(47:30):
we hear about this is the trend, this is the
big outbreak. Well, as of September thirtieth, we'd seen forty
two outbreaks across the country. Now we're talking about fifteen
hundred plus cases. So it's not like a COVID thing here,

(47:54):
you know, back in the pandemic days. But it does
get your attention because this is something we'd already.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
Solved, we thought.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Okay, I read an interesting piece in the Daily Caller
before he came on the air this morning. This headline,
Republicans who crossed Trump rarely survive, will the Epstein Truthers,
And it mentions four Republicans who signed that discharge petition

(48:23):
that was that's been a month or more ago. I
guess three of them prominent Republican women, Yeah, Marjorie Taylor Green,
Lauren Bobert, Nancy Mace. So it did get my attention here.
Thomas Massey was the other Republican who signed on.

Speaker 4 (48:40):
By the way, it is hard to imagine a more
loyal Trump person than Marjorie Taylor Green. It is fascinating
watching this. I used to be right, yeah, watching this
play out now.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
But for Nancy, who wants to be governor, well, as
they point out, let me just read what what they
wrote here. Mace, who is currently running as a gubernatorial
candidate in South Carolina, is unique though that if she
would have lose the primary next June, she would have

(49:14):
missed the filing deadline for running for reelection for a
congressional seat.

Speaker 4 (49:18):
That's the problem some of these people have is when
they run for reelection or when their reelection comes up
on the same year.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Additionally, any funds raised by Mace's gubernatorial campaign, and their
campaign says they've raised a little over a million dollars
worth could not be transferred to a congressional bit, although
it wouldn't matter because she couldn't run for her seat
in Congress anyway. Right, But the bigger point is is that, yeah,
you cross Trump and for you.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Know, a let's face it, a.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Republican gubernatorial wanna be who makes no bones that she
wants that Trump endorsement.

Speaker 5 (50:00):
Hmmm, I thought.

Speaker 4 (50:02):
You were going to say that it's because she's already
been there, because she's danced in and out of Trump's
good graces already. Yeah, yeah, and she realizes that it's
easy to get back in as good graces. It's Trump's
not the issue. The issue is how voters in South
Carolina perceive her relationship with Trump.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
True.

Speaker 4 (50:23):
I mean, all she has to do is come out
tomorrow and say, oh, Trump was the greatest president ever,
and he'll love her again. That's Trump's not the problem.
But it's if voters think that she's not the Trump
candidate the that's the that's the issue.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Yeah, true, good point.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
Disney attendants plunging to all time lows this year.

Speaker 5 (50:47):
You mean Disneyland, disney World.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Disney World. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
Uh, visitors reporting ghost towns at the parks. What's going
on here? See the economy?

Speaker 2 (50:59):
Is it the woke? Yes? No? Or maybe a combination
of such.

Speaker 4 (51:03):
It's so, I mean, I haven't been in years, but
it's expensive.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Hmmm.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
It's an it's an expedition. You want to take a
family down there. I mean at least in the old days,
or I say old days, and at least in the
last ten years.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
That's the old days for me, with.

Speaker 4 (51:19):
The crowds and the cost. You had to plan everything
out carefully if you were going to get the family
in to see everything you wanted to see.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
Yeah, which is why when I go to Orlando, I
go to Universal. Never been to Disney, Actually, let's.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
Go to Universe ever never?

Speaker 5 (51:33):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (51:33):
Yeah never in my life. I'm like the only person
I know. Yeah he's never been to Disney. Yeah that's me.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
Hello.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
Okay, uh Now it's what eight homes and the outer
banks that have collapsed because of the highwaves. Eight Now,
nobody was living these houses have been They've been forced
to move out a long time ago. But yeah, eight
of them and take it bye to the penny quick

(52:00):
So they will get rid of pennies at all their
nine hundred locations across the country. What happens if it's
like a buck ninety nine, Well, transactions will be runted
down down to the nearest five cents. So if it's
a bug ninety nine, you're gonna pay cash gets what
you get to pay a buck ninety five for it?

Speaker 5 (52:19):
Okay, if you're the quick trip, aren't you losing money?

Speaker 2 (52:22):
Well?

Speaker 1 (52:22):
Yeah, well they're probably just jacking up the price a
little bit anyway to make up for it, I'm sure, right, yeah,
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