Home Improvement Show 04-25-26

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Good morning again, welcome the Home Improvement Show of the
Midlands back on the radio on one O three point
five FM five sixty AMWVOC, or you may be tuning
into us this morning no matter where you are across
this planet on the free iHeartRadio app however you choose.
We appreciate it. Thanks for being here. My name is
Gary David and coming up in the hour we'll be
talking to Jeremy Halladay, the owner of Mister Electric here

(00:33):
in the Midlands, and I think we're going to talk
about circuit breakers. They if they're popping, what's the reason
and should you be concerned? Spoiler alert? Yeah, Okay, Trey
Powell Mosquito Joe will be joining us next half hour. Yeah,
it's mosquito season. You may not have been inundated yet,
but it's going to happen. Well, Mosquito Joe has the

(00:53):
fix for that and for really all the things that
bug you inside now at your home, and we'll discuss
it with Trey. Coming up first up, it's Russ Markesy,
owner of the Finishing Touch team here in the Midlands.
What now twenty three years yet twenty three years in business?

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Something would be twenty four. Gary twenty Yes, sir, twenty four,
most of a year.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Behind, so you've been doing twenty three working on twenty four. Huh,
that's right, family owned, family operated the whole time. I'm
about that. Good to see you, my friend.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Good to see you, Gary, Good to be here.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
But before we go any further, let's let's mention the
special ye running on exterior painting right now.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Absolutely so the ten percent off right now, Gary, for
you know, any exterior painting, somebody you know calling from
this radio ad mentions this radio ad here, we're offering
ten percent off. We do a you know, we always
powerwashed before we do any exterior painting, so you're gonna
get your house washed, all that poling gets nice and

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cleaned off here, right right, Yeah, good little spring cleaning
to do. And then what we also offer, Gary, is
with every full exterior paint job, we offer a complimentary
powerwash one year from the finished date of the paint job.
And then this way, we can not only powerwash it
one year later, but inspect everything, uh, expect all the

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painting that we did a year ago and take care
of anything that uh that that might have come loose.
So it's uh, it's a good way to get some
spring cleaning done.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Very nice, very nice. And that offer runs how how
long is that? How long are you gonna have this
in effect? Or is it kind of open ended right now?

Speaker 3 (02:25):
So we're it's well, so we were starting the offer now,
but it runs through the summer, through the end of
the summer.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, through the end of August.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
All right, beautiful, yeah, beautiful today. Some FAQs you get asked, questions,
lots of questions. We questions last time. Yes, people have
questions where do we start?

Speaker 3 (02:48):
You know, Uh, I get I get the question a lot.
I see a lot of times where pricing varies so
drastically from one contractor to the next. Okay, let me
see it quite a bit. Why is this guy, you know,
three thousand dollars to do something and this guy's five

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hundred dollars to do something?

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (03:11):
And we get that question a lot. And you know,
it's like the old saying, you never want to go
with the cheapest guy necessarily because you get what you
pay for a kind of thing. Right, And unfortunately, Gary,
there's nothing new under the sun. This is true, and
there's reasons for that. But one of the biggest reasons
that I'll tell you where pricing really matters and is

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different is because of the insurance.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
You know, workman's comp and general liability these days is
not a cheap thing, and it costs just because of
all the claims throughout all the years, all the rates
have just gone up quite a bit for everybody and
including painting contractors. So but you have to have it, Okay,
God forbid, something happens, somebody falls off a ladder. I mean, look,

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we're we're using adders, scaffoling, man lifts, all sorts of
equipment to get up really high, sometimes eighty feet, one
hundred feet, one hundred twenty feet. Sometimes we just did
a church steeple and forest acres that was close to
one hundred and forty five feet tall.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
So you know, you have to have the proper safety equipment,
the proper training, but the proper insurance is to go
along with this, all right, And unfortunately just a lot
of people just don't don't carry that, okay.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
And that's the case, and somebody gets hurt. This comes
back on.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
You come right back to the homeowner. Absolutely, the buck
stops with the homeowner. That's where they're you know, the
insurance companies. They go to where the money is at first,
and if the money if somebody doesn't have insurance, well
guess who they go to next, the homeowner. Unfortunately, right now,
one of the biggest little tricks here that I like
to talk about is the fact that a lot of people,

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not just in painting and all sorts of different trades,
no matter what it is, electricians, hvac, you name it,
they have what's called ghost policy out there okay for
work ghost Okay, It's called a ghost policy, and it
means exactly what it sounds like. It covers nothing. It's
a ghost alls it is is a certificate piece of
paper that says you have workmen's comp insurance. Okay, but

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it covers nothing, not even the owner who purchased the policy.
The unfortunate part is that policy looks identical to the policy,
the policy that I have. Let's say that I pay,
you know, for every single person that I have, they
look identical. You can't tell the difference between.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
The two of them.

Speaker 5 (05:38):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
So you know, I encourage homeowners to ask questions.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Well, in that situation, I mean, as a homeowner, how
do you know, I mean, you guys come in with
this somebody else comes in with his other ghost policy
and you can't tell the difference. So what are the
questions to ask?

Speaker 2 (05:54):
You know, it's really tough. So if a company has.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
Really, say five or less guys, that tends to be
you know, I hate to make that such a broad
statement because it's just not true always obviously, okay, but
it's generally those type of companies that are carrying a
ghost policy just because it's just cheaper to go that route.
Companies that have I.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Wasn't even legal. I mean, somebody again, these companies are
having to buy something. It's a loophole.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
It's unfortunately it is a loophole in the insurance industry
at the moment, and the companies are starting to catch
on to at the risk factor.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
What they're doing is if they see a subcontractor heavy
ratio versus W two employees, they're tending to drop their
clients because of that, because the subcontractors are only supplying
these ghost policy workman's comps.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
And so what happens is somebody ends up getting hurt,
they can't collect from them. They go to the next
person who was the first person who the original contractor
that took the job. So it's just it just rolls
downhills what happens, and they find that the risk lies
with the person who took the contract. So they're starting
to drop those folks quickly like flies.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
It's it's.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Kind of a thing at the moment, but but it's
because of these ghost policies, is what it's for. And
so it's just so important to have the right insurance
when someone's working on your property and in your home
for that matter, anything could happen and you've got to
be covered.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
You've got to make sure of it right. So and
again we saw this in an unrelated industry, but this
has been an issue in South Carolina now for a
while with insurance companies and say bars and liquor liability exactly,
and as for as many of them out of business
because they cannot afford these insurance policy exactly exactly.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
You know, it's getting that way with in construction, with
workmen's comp real it really, it's getting so high because
it's just all the fraud, all the you know, just
all the false claims there. There's just so many of them,
and the insurance companies would rather just pay it out
and settle and not actually look into the incident and

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see what the actual issues are here and fight for
their customer. They just pay it out and they raise
the customer's premium and they keep rolling on and the
premiums go up and up and up.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
So yeah, this all factors into why the quote from
you know, company A may be very different from the
quote from company B.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
That's exactly right. That is a huge factor. I'd say
that's probably the number one factor that drives price right there.
Another one is the products that you use, right if
you are using Look every manufacturer Sheryl Williams, PPG, Glidden Rose,
Talbert Paints right here in Columbia now, they all have

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their high quality end paints and they have their low
end quality paints. So it's a matter of using the
right quality paint that's going to last and hold up
for the specific job that you're doing. And a lot
of people, unfortunately, they'll just cut corners with that to
save a couple dollars and that affects the quote.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Well, there's a good question in these days what the internet,
I mean, it's easy to figure out, Okay, what pain
are you using? Tell me what pains you're gonna use
and exactly what what what level? And you go online
and figure out what's the best stuff and what's the
cheapest stuff exactly.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
Yeah, that's that's correctly I ask that question. It does
it really does the prep work as well? I enjoy
when I get a homeowner who you know, quizzes me
on these things, right, because they've done their due diligence,
and they've done their homework just like you said, They've
looked it up and they ask questions, are you going
to use this product? Are you going to be doing
this type of prep? I appreciate that because that homeowner

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cares about what's going on. Obviously, they want the right
thing to be done. And quite frankly, if the contractor
can't answer those questions pretty quickly without you know, saying,
you know, you know, let me get back to you
on that, right, it's probably not a good probably not
a good fit, you know. So it's just super important
to have the the right assurance is obviously in place,

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the right products in place. And then, of course, as
we've talked about a million times, the preparation.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
And that that prep can range from I guess to
some people just start painting, right, I mean do we
know prep at all? It happens.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
We see it all the time constantly, you know, no
sanding being done, no scraping being done, painting right over
the surface. And the hard part is that a lot
of times, even with a little bit of prep, it
does look much better than it did immediately, right, It
looks a whole lot better than it did. But how
long it lasts is the is the factor here, and

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that's where the prep comes into play. You get your
longevity out of the prep. The amount of preparation and
the correct preparation that you do.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
And the amount of prep needed is going to vary
from job a job depending on all the surface.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Yeah, absolutely, Gary, I mean some things that you know,
it's not going to require a whole lot of prep.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
It's going to require a.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Quick sanding attack cloth to get the dust off and
then you can kind of go to it. Other Other
substrates surfaces take a lot more. Maybe we have to
skim coat it with a exterior dura patch, or maybe
we have to do a stucco patch or cut calking
out of a joint and recalk things, reseal things. We

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see a lot of times on exteriors, Gary, where around
the windows, even a brick home. Let's say, there should
be ceilants around your windows. Even on a brick home.
You should never see gaps around your windows, right, you
should always have some sort of a ceilant, whether it
be a clear ceilant or a white should always see
that around your windows. And I'll tell you probably, i'd

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say seven times out of ten we see calking missing,
celant missing, or just needn't be replaced. It's very, very common.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
And by the way, we should mention this because I've
seen one of these from this guy right here, an
itemized quote. It's like it's not quite war and peace,
but it's pretty long. But that's another thing. I mean again,
whether it's finishing touch team whoever you're dealing with, or
getting a quote from Yeah, if I get two business

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businesses coming to me, you know, bidding services, and one
has what what I saw from you guys when it
came to an itemized quote, listen the other ones. Maybe hey,
I we'll do it for this.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Or even on a napkin. Sometimes I've heard I mean,
I mean all the way down to that.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Right.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
So that's a great point, Gary.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
In our proposals, we we itemize everything just like you said,
because we want everything in black and white. We put
everything down to the exact amount of coats we're going
to put on, how we're going to do it, the
type of paint that we're going to use, the methods
that we're going to go go buy.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Okay, we put all.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
This into the proposal so that there are zero gray
areas in the homeowner or customer knows exactly what they're
getting every single time. That is a huge key factor.
If you're comparing you know, painting quotes for whether it's
inside or outside your home, and you have a one
sentence proposal let's say, or estimate, whatever you want to
call it, versus you know, a page written out just

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like we're talking about. That's a big indication right there
of what's what. And generally those prices are going to
be just a little bit higher just because you're getting
what you pay for.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Right What else? What are the other questions you get
asking a lot. We've talked about price, why price could
differ from quote quote company to company. We've talked about,
you know, the insurance angle of it, the premium paint
brands that you use, the prep work. I mean, what
are some of the other things that that did. People.
I guess they wonder how long it's going to take, right.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yeah, yeah, they ask how long it's going to take
all the time, and we that's one thing I'll tell you,
we haven't had a ton.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Of issue when it comes to time.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Right.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
We are, especially on our commercial painting. Let's say, Uh,
we're the we're the last guys that you have to
worry about.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
When it comes to a commercial paint job.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Let's say, because we're in and out, we if everything
is ready for us to paint. Now, this is a
commercial setting we're talking about. Okay, switch it up a
little bit on you here, but on a commercial setting,
that's what that's what we do. We come in at
the end. We're the last guys. We're the finished guys.
We're the last guys that you have to worry about.
We get in there, we have enough manpower to either
beef up the job and get things done or make

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a push, let's say, as needed. On the residential side
of it. You have yeah it look, it should take
as long as it should take. Okay, there shouldn't be
any where if it takes a week, they get done
in one day type thing. Right, there should be a
timeframe there. However, it does vary about how much manpower

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you have on the job. Okay, So if somebody has
figured a job for let's say three days with two guys,
and they end up putting four guys or five guys
on there, yeah, it's gonna take less time to actually
do that project. It just matters, you know, how much
how many people they have on the actual job doing
the doing the work. That affects it quite.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
A bit, okay.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
And how much preparation does the homeowner need to do
ahead of time before you come in. You got to
move furniture around, you gotta.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Yeah, So that's we get that question a lot. That's
another that's a huge question that we get when it
comes to furniture. I kind of leave that up to
the home owner. I like to leave that up to
them a lot of times because sometimes there are certain
pieces of furniture that they don't want anybody touching. And
I understand maybe it's a family heirloom, a hunch, something
really really important to them. But by all means, we
are there to help if we if they would like

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us to move the furniture. It's just included we'll move
the furniture into the center. We use the sliding pads
underneath every piece of furniture. You have to I mean,
it's just get home, my wife, as you're reay for
living with us.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Howd you do that on the sliding pads? Oh?

Speaker 3 (15:30):
Okay, the sliding pads were great, you know, but then
you cover everything with plastic. So when we go to
an interior paint job, everything is covered. I like to
say it like a present, right. We put up plastic
over all the furniture. We tape it up real nice
and tight, and then we use drop cloth runners all
around the perimeters to make sure that there's you know,
nothing that gets on the floors or any furniture whatsoever.

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But even with cabinetry, I get the question a lot
where they ask do I need to remove everything out
of my cabinets in order for the cabinets to be painted.
We probably get that question almost every time we do
a set of cabinets, and the answer is no, you
do not have to remove everything out of your cabinets.
You know, definitely not, because there's not enough dust and
debris being mixed up to where it's going to get

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all over everything and what we do is we'll cut
small little sheets of plastic and we just kind of
tuck them in and we put them over the open
areas in the cabinets where where the dishes are or
things like that. Now, by all means, if homeowners just
feel more comfortable about taking things out or just certain things,
you know, no problem whatsoever. And we have customers that
do that from time to time. But I'd say the

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general consensus is don't. They generally don't remove everything.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
There's just no.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Interesting Okay, yeah, got that you needed to.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
That's a pretty big question that we get most of
the time. It really is.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
And you know a lot of a lot of times
home owners will ask if they move the furniture, will
that save any cost? We get that question quite a bit,
and to a certain extent, absolutely it will, because it's
time more. The more time it takes to do something,
the more cost obviously. So we'll have sometimes homeowners will
actually move all the furniture to the center for us.

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They'll actually take all the switch play covers off the
walls for us, remove the blinds for us. Right, all
the stuff saves us time, so I can pass that
savings on to the homeowner. But not everybody's up to
doing that, and that's okay, And if they don't want to,
that's what we're here for. And we can do that all.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Day long, no pro okay And speaking of time, we
are out of it, my friend. Ah, just like that,
All right, Finishing Touch Team RUSS. Folks want to get
a hold of you that get that detailed itemized quote
on whether an interior or an exterior job which, as
you mentioned, ten percent off right now all exterior jobs
you do, plus you.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
Come back in a year and correct washing wash, complimentary
torow wash one year.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Yes, sir, all right, how the folks reaching my friends?

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Yeah, you can always give me a call at eight
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we are back on the Home Improvement Show of the
Midlands on one O three point five FM five sixty
AM WVC. As we welcome in Jeremy How today he
is the owner and he is around these parts. Mister
Electric morning, Jeremy, how are you? Brother?

Speaker 7 (20:20):
Good morning Gay doing good good? Oh?

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Our topic today and well, we'll talk about a lot
of things. I'm sure, but we really want to focus
to get started on one topic in particular. We've brought
it up before, your circuit breakers in your home, and
maybe you've got one and island at a home years
ago that had this issue where the breaker would trip.

(20:43):
And as a homeowner, as a business owner, I mean
our go go flip the circuit breaker. Okay, great, comes back,
everything's good, but it's really not right.

Speaker 7 (20:53):
What is well?

Speaker 1 (20:54):
First of all, what is going on when that breaker
trips anytime, much less when you have one that's tripping constantly.

Speaker 8 (21:01):
So a breaker is uh, is designed to trip to
protect your circuit, protect your home from damage.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (21:08):
And the reason they trip can be for overloads uh,
short circuit And that's the general purpose you know, standard breaker.
Now they have some specialty breakers that are what I
like to call leaking protection. You know, they call it
a ground fault protector but uh uh and then a

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arc fault protector breaker and those are a little more
specific to arcing and leaking current. So a breaker is
designed a trip to protect you from electrical shock, from
damage to you know, further damage to equipment, uh, got

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it right, or in the wiring, protect the wiring because
the wiring is rated for a certain amount of electricity,
and if you overload that wire, it can it can
melt it down. So if you overload a breaker, it's
going to trip. If if you have a short circuit
somewhere in the in the system, it's going to turn
that breaker off to protect you from electrocution.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Why, I know it's an answer for this or not,
but why are they designed to where? Uh, you know,
if they trip because there's something wrong going on that
they just stay in that situation. They just stay in
that position. You why are you allowed? What does it
allow you to reset it, to turn it back on again,
to flip it and it works again.

Speaker 8 (22:31):
Right, So there's different You know, the breaker is designed
with a thermal overload in it, and that's normally when
the circuit is overloaded. Now, if you have a and
you'll be able to turn it back on until that
thermal heats back up. That thermal overload heats back up
to the temperature to trip that breaker. And sometimes it

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doesn't take long. Other times you may have a damaged
breaker that the breakers actually faulty. That's one of the
more common misdiagnosis is that you can just change the breaker,
but sometimes it is the breaker and then uh, the
breaker itself. If there's a short circuit where the where

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the wiring is touching something that it shouldn't be, it's
going to shut that breaker off so that the current
doesn't go into other items. The reason you can turn
it back on is because once you know, if you
if you have too many items plugged in and you're
overloading the circuit, or you have a faulty piece of equipment,
you may not need an electrician, you know, if you
if you know that that's what it was. Say, say,

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for instance, you're out weed eating with an electric weed
eater and you hit the cord and.

Speaker 7 (23:47):
It splits the cord open and trips the breaker, Well.

Speaker 8 (23:51):
You shouldn't really need to call an electrician to come
turn that breaker back on. You should be able to
turn it back on. You know exactly why a trip
to get rid of the hazard and turn.

Speaker 7 (24:01):
It back on. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (24:03):
So now if you have a problem that's ongoing, then
your breaker is going to continue to trip, and if
it trips more than once repetitively, Uh, then it's time
to get an expert out there. And that's what we do.
We can come out and uh, find the real cause
of the problem instead of you know, just guessing and

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turning it back on.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
So so yeah, I mean my my question was somewhat rhetorical.
But you don't have to call it electrician every time
a circuit breaks trips certainly, but so you're you're if
it happens once, it could happen once on any circuit, right,
you know, for any reason, too much bluged down, whatever.
But if it's a repeated problem, now you need to

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call that's right, Okay, yeah, over and over again. So
you're talking about damage to appliances or whatever's plugged into
that circuit, whatever, But it could be could it be
worse than that? Could you actually be setting yourself up
for a very dangerous situation by not addressing it.

Speaker 8 (25:08):
Absolutely absolutely, because that's your that's the point between Uh,
that's protected.

Speaker 7 (25:14):
That's what that breaker does, that's what it's.

Speaker 8 (25:16):
The whole design of it is to shut that circuit
down if there's a fault. So it's it's looking for
those faults and when there's something wrong with the circuit,
it's gonna shut down. Now sometimes, Uh, you know, an
overload is an overload, right if you have too many
things plugged in.

Speaker 7 (25:33):
You say, you have you have a bedroom and.

Speaker 8 (25:35):
It's a general purpose circuit in there. Uh, and you've
got a big common thing is space heaters.

Speaker 7 (25:42):
They take up a lot. You know, we've talked about
this before. Yeah, but you overload that circuit. Uh, well,
that can melt the wire down.

Speaker 8 (25:50):
And once the once the wire starts melting down, Uh,
then you have combustible materials that are exposed to heat,
and uh, they can catch on fire, and then the
how can catch on fire. So that breaker has a
thermal overload in it to detect when it's pulling too
much through it that it shuts down.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
So you guys go out and mister Rutger goes out,
and somebody calls says, yeah, I've got one of these
problems circuit breaking over and over again. You mentioned there
there could be a variety of reasons as to what's
causing things. Okay, let's say again. Homeowner calls. Business owner calls, Yeah,
I've you know, I've unplugged a bunch of stuff. I'm

(26:27):
really you know, I don't have enough plugged into it
right know, we should be causing a big problem that
keeps tripping. Okay, they call you guys, you come out.
You've kind of ruled out already. It's it's not that
it's just an overload that you've got too much plugged
into it. Okay, where do you start and trying to
diagnose the issue from your perspective as to what the
real problem is and how difficult is that.

Speaker 8 (26:49):
Well, we'll go through a series of questions, you know, how, when, where,
what was going on when it happened with the customer,
you know, to help us start out at the right point.

Speaker 7 (27:01):
We train on just starting. We always want to start
out at the.

Speaker 8 (27:03):
Panel because that's where the source is. And then depending
on what we find with voltage, you know, multimeters and
voltage readings and different tools we have to diagnose the situation.
We can narrow it down to where that problem is
and if it's something in the wiring, if it's a
piece of equipment, or if it's the breaker itself, or

(27:28):
you know, sometimes it's the panel.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
So so it could be there's an issue. Again, I'm
just asking the layman's questions because I don't know anything
about electricity. It could be the issue is that the
actual outlet itself, Yeah, or it could be an issue
in the panel itself could.

Speaker 8 (27:46):
Be a loose connection in the outlet, could be the
panel's gone bad. The problem in the panel with the
bus could be, you know, water intrusion. We've seen that
where it's an outdoor outlet or something is called trip
and there's other things in the house that are tied
to that circuit, so.

Speaker 7 (28:07):
Damaged wires.

Speaker 8 (28:08):
We've seen where you know, thirty year old house in
the circuit, one of the staples is too tight under
the house and it's finally broken the insulation and it's
causing a short.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
And that was gonna be my my other question because
if it's not at the outlet itself, it's not at
the panel itself, that is somewhere in between. And that's
just seems about that that would be a lot more
time consuming to try to find, cause you gotta do,
you gotta, you gotta try it out a bunch of wire.

Speaker 8 (28:34):
That's one of our difficult ones is you know, you
gotta we have multitesters that help us narrow it down
and then you know, we have we can narrow it
down between point A and point B.

Speaker 7 (28:45):
In a circuit.

Speaker 8 (28:46):
You know, we're familiar with circuitry and how it's ran
and you can get to point A point B and say, hey.

Speaker 7 (28:51):
It's this section of wire that's bad.

Speaker 8 (28:53):
We can't see it, but we know that from point
A to point B that's where the fault happens. So
if we bypass that, everything's fine.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Okay, So how do you how do you fix that? Then?
If you if you know what's putting point anyboy, baby,
you can't really actually see it. What what's what's the
remedy here?

Speaker 8 (29:09):
Well, we're very good at fishing in wires, so we
have to fish in a new wire to okay, jump out.

Speaker 7 (29:14):
Where we need to get to, uh uh, and put
a new wire in.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
So you're running, get all the way from the outlet
to the to the to the panel, well wherever.

Speaker 7 (29:23):
That point is at that point.

Speaker 8 (29:24):
So if it needs it all the way from the panel,
sure we can do that. But if it's in between
two outlets or a switch in an outlet and it's
just the jumper wire between those two, you can get
between those two, you know, So we just pull that
section back in and we're good, uh, which we've done
many times.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
If you've ever built a home, you've seen one of
our boys is in the process of building a home
right now. And uh was over there a couple of
weeks ago before they put the sheet rock up, And
of course you got to get the inspectors and all
in there before you do that. And I just looked
at this maze of wiring running all over this place.
You know it's there, but you don't think about it

(30:03):
as a homeowner necessarily, right, But I mean there's so
I mean almost seems like miles of wiring running through
your typical house. There's a lot of spots that something
could go wrong. I guess, yeah, that's right, that's absolutely right.

Speaker 8 (30:14):
There's a lot of there's a lot of covered up
wiring in your home. You're pretty much sitting in a
cage of wire.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
So if the problem, well, I guess, regardless where the
problem is, let's say the problem is at the breaker itself.
If it's ignored, could it lead to damage to other panel,
other other breakers in that panel. Could you want to
put the street, example, the whole everything, everything's got to
be replaced.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
That's right.

Speaker 8 (30:39):
Yeah, So if if you ignore it and you keep
turning on best case, best case scenario is going to be,
you're going to have worse damage, you know, to the.

Speaker 7 (30:51):
Wiring to the panel.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (30:54):
Yeah, I've seen a lot of instances where, like you
asked earlier, the customer just didn't understand why the breaker
would turn back on if there was a fault, you know,
and so they just kept it back on thinking that
it's okay to turn it back on, and ended up
costing them a panel change because it's overheated the bus

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and caused other issues that if we could have got
out there initially and figured out that they were overloading
that circuit and explained to them, then they wouldn't have
suffered the damage to their panel.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
So when you talk about a panel change, are you
just are referring to there's a lot of men there
replacing every circuit breaker or is it more in depth,
more more entailed than that. Are you actually replacing more
than just every circuit breaker.

Speaker 8 (31:43):
No, we're replacing the whole box, and code is getting
getting to where you're going to have to replace other things,
you know, where the grandfathered in rule is that we
still have some of it being allowed, but it's almost
a touch and go bases. You're not sure whether you're
gonna have to replace the whole service, you know, the

(32:05):
meter outside and put new service wire to the panel
and get the panel replaced and have an emergency disconnect outside.
So that's a very labor intensive, big job, and you'll
be without power for a night in most cases.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
And I'm guessing you're probably talking that's a very expensive procedure.

Speaker 8 (32:27):
Yeah, depending on the type of house, you know, there's
all types of situations. You have some houses that the
panel and the meter are back to back. You have
somewhere the meter's on one side of the house and
the panels on the other side of the house, so
they're all, you know, a little different in their own way.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Could you give us a rough idea, a timeline idea
here of if your home is X amount of years
old and you're probably grandfathered in, and if something this
drastic happened, you might need a complete change out of everything.
I mean, we're talking a twenty year old home, a
fifteen year old home, a ten year old home. I'm
a forty year old home.

Speaker 7 (33:01):
You know, I'd go with a forty year old home.

Speaker 8 (33:03):
Yet a forty year old home maybe you know, maybe
pushing fifty in the panels in the closet down low
on the floor. You know, almost well that panel's going
to have to be moved. We can't put it back there.
And then once you move it, now you need a
Now now you know most cases you need a new
service wire. Then once you need a new service wire,
now you need a new meter can. And once you
need a new meter can. Now you need a new

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emergency disconnect.

Speaker 7 (33:26):
Then you know you've got.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
The hip bones out of the thigh bone. Yeah, these
are your rules. These are the state.

Speaker 7 (33:32):
No, no, they're not they're good rules.

Speaker 8 (33:34):
I wouldn't say they're not good rules, but uh, it
definitely makes your a system safer.

Speaker 7 (33:40):
But if you don't have to go through.

Speaker 8 (33:42):
It, and you can just call somebody out because the
breakers tripping and figure out why that breaker is tripping
and maybe get a few more years out of it.

Speaker 7 (33:49):
Yeah, and plan for.

Speaker 8 (33:51):
That situation, you know, because you got you want to
be proactive. I mean, a forty fifty year old home,
if it has the original service you should be thinking
about replace.

Speaker 7 (34:00):
Isn't that bad boy? Anyways?

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Mm hmmm, So again, let's recap. You gotta you gotta
a breaker that just keeps tripping.

Speaker 5 (34:11):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
I guess the first thing to do is you would
be to all right, let's figure out what outlets are
on that on that breaker right number woard label your
laborer breakers makes a lot simpler. Okay, you can figure
it out, but it takes a lot long, trust me,
I know. But how specific they get a different right right?

(34:31):
But so so start start with the process of elimination.
Start unplugging stuff, I guess, right, and see if that
that that, if that, if that fixes the problem. So
let's let's say you in this example, yeah, it's it's
it's it's gone off a couple of times, and I
just keep flipping and keep flipping and keep flipping it
and it's still going off. But now I say, okay,
I'm gonna go by a process of elimination, start unplugging stuff.

(34:55):
And if I do that and suddenly it stays on,
am I in the clear? Well it was just an
overload and I've been plugged this appliance or whatever from
that circuit and now it's staying on. So I'm good.

Speaker 8 (35:07):
I'm not going to tell you you're in the clear
just because you know, the situation depends on what it is, uh,
but I'd say you use you know, common sense and logic.
So if your breaker starts tripping right after you plug
something in and you unplug that thing and turn it on,
then logic would say, you know, there's something wrong with.

Speaker 7 (35:26):
That unit you plugged in the Yeah.

Speaker 8 (35:29):
Now, if you don't remember doing anything different and all
of a sudden a breaker just starts tripping, you haven't
added anything, right, Okay, you know.

Speaker 7 (35:37):
So it depends on the situation.

Speaker 8 (35:39):
I would love to say, you know, self diagnosed and
just do unplug everything and if it stays on, you're good.

Speaker 7 (35:45):
That wouldn't necessarily be one hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
So, but there's a much better chance that that's that's
you start process elimination and now everything works and you're
probably probably good.

Speaker 8 (35:57):
Yeah, and you should know if the breaker just started
tripping and you say, say you bought a new entertainment
center and you plugged it in and you know, five
hours later you got a breaker tripping, well you just
added something to your electrical system. So logically you'd say, well,
this ain't never happened before, right, You're got to handle

(36:19):
this this main entertainment.

Speaker 7 (36:21):
Center and see if it happens again.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
You got concerns, is this an issue that you're facing?

Speaker 4 (36:25):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (36:25):
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How to folks get a holding and you get to
get you out there?

Speaker 7 (36:30):
Well.

Speaker 8 (36:30):
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Speaker 7 (36:36):
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Good to see you, my friend, to see you.

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(38:36):
we're back with the Home Improvement Show of the Midlands
on one O three point five F M and five
sixty A M W V O C and I joined
by Trey Powell from Mosquito. Joe, Trey, good morning, my friend,
Good morning to you. Hey, uh, good morning whis uh you?
I Now, we've got rain in the forecast this weekend,
but where do we No, I mean, we're what was

(39:00):
the figure we were calling this yesterday on the Morning Show.
It's like the driest start to a year since like
nineteen eleven in South Carolina.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
Yeah, and that's all really happened in the last three
or four weeks because we actually had a very wet
beginning of the year. February March we're very wet and
unseasonably warm, and then now we've had a really big
dry spell. You know, the mosquito pressure is it will
definitely be impacted by a drought. However, when it's you

(39:34):
just had a very wet, you know, couple of months
that kind of got them going. You know, the population
is still up. My concern is as soon as we
get some rain, it's going to ignite a whole bunch
of eggs that are sitting just outside of where the water.

Speaker 7 (39:52):
When the water.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
Rises, it's going to pick up a lot of eggs
and really hatch them quite quickly.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Yeah, and they catches a lot of people by surprise
because they don't realize that how did I go from
you know, zero to sixty thousand overnight? Basically?

Speaker 4 (40:13):
Yeah, I mean, and they would be very lucky if
they're at zero really at this point, you know, because
we had such a wet couple of months that really
kind of prime that pump. But you know, I, I,
you know, be fair, be fair worn that. You know,
as soon as we do get rain, any lack of

(40:34):
pressure that we've seen that anyone is seeing is going
to be overwhelmed by a big expansion of the mosquito population.
So that, you know, when the waters recede and things
dry up, those those eggs just kind of incubate. You know,
they might be sitting in a in a on the
edge of a bird bath, just out of the water,

(40:55):
or if the water's all dried up. As soon as
that water comes in, or you know puddles or you
know ditches and drains and things like that that have
been dry now for a couple of weeks, you know,
it's going to pick up a lot of mosquito eggs
that are sitting in an incubation.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
So give us an idea. Let let's say we get
to you know, what we need is a bunch of
rain over the course of not just a weekend, but
as chances next week two. So let's say we get that,
and let's say right now you or not, maybe you've
got a little bit of a problem, but not much.
How quickly could we see that really become a big
issue in a backyard?

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Right?

Speaker 7 (41:30):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (41:31):
Four days?

Speaker 1 (41:32):
Really? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (41:34):
Yeah? I mean they you know, they don't you know
when they hatch, they hatches larvae and they have to
stay in that larval stage. But at this time of
the year, they'll they'll probably go through that larval stage
very very quickly. And so yeah, in less than a
week after if we get a bunch of rain, which
is predicted, which is great. We need the rain. We
don't need forest fires and some of the other complications.

(41:57):
You know, our crops need rain, the grass need rain.
Everything needs rain. Very unseasonably dry temperature for us so
far in April, what happened to April showers?

Speaker 1 (42:08):
Right, We'll have no May flowers this year maybe, so,
so it can happen that quick. All right, So let's
talk about what you guys do. And again, y'all have
been servicing my various homes now for the last number
of years. Wherever we go, we take Mosquito Joe with us.
So this is why you know, when I talk to you,

(42:29):
I'm always I'm just curious because I don't deal with
this problem. So I don't know how bad the pressure is.
Right now, you know what people are having to deal
with in their backyards because it ain't my backyard. Matter
of fact, we have an event coming up in May
and another one in June, and in both events it
will be like a bunch of our neighbors and friends.

(42:50):
Where do they like to go? They want to come
to our backyard. Well, number one, because it's beautiful, I'll
I'll brag about it. But number two because they know
they don't get bit by mosquitoes. Uh So this is
not a concern for us, but for somebody that is planning.
I mean, gosh, we have we have Mother's Day coming
up here right next month May tenth, I think it is,
but day, and here go all the summertime things should

(43:11):
I have for all that? So for people who want
to host things outdoors, I mean, in my book Tray,
this is a must. This is a must.

Speaker 4 (43:19):
Half Yeah, I mean you're you're living in the in
the southeast, and specifically in the in the midlands of
South Carolina, which is you know is always has very
hot and humid weather, and we have a mosquito problem
and so it's you know, it's difficult to enjoy your
backyard unless you're spraying yourself down, which is no fun.

(43:42):
You know, having bottles of bug spray by every door
and every time you go outside, you're spraying yourself down. Uh,
that's that's that's no fun. You know, Mosquito Joe can
make outside fun again. Kind of eliminate those mosquitos from
your backyard, so you can go outside anytime, day or
night and just enjoy the party, enjoy the outdoor and
joyce sitting on the back deck and enjoying some of

(44:03):
this beautiful weather that we have.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
How do we stack up here in the Midlands versus say,
the rest of the state when it comes to mosquito issues.
Is it pretty much the same state wide? Or is
it is it different?

Speaker 4 (44:14):
You know, we definitely have a unique mosquito problem. I mean,
there are different species of mosquitos at the coast, and
obviously Charleston and Myrtle Beach they have an issue, and
they have a lot of swamp lands down there and
stuff like that that definitely contributes to their mosquito problem.
But they have a different species of mosquito too. Up

(44:36):
in the Upstate, they definitely have a problem, probably not
quite as bad as ours, but you know you're in
the southeast. You're always going to have an issue no
matter where you are.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
What's different about the mosquitoes of different parts of the
states the state that is right.

Speaker 4 (44:52):
Well, yeah, different species which have different behaviors. I mean
the type of mosquitoes that we have here predominantly are
very poor flyers, and so you know what happens is
they don't travel very far. They might travel two hundred
feet in their whole lifetime.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (45:08):
And you know, so you're they're really not coming from
your neighbor's yard unless you have a very very small yard.
They're breeding and they're laying eggs and feeding and everything
right there in your yard. And so you know, the
key is trying to find the standing water where they're
laying those eggs, and you know, maybe a drain that's hidden,

(45:31):
gutters down spouts, kids, toys, buckets, wheelbarrows. They're container breeders,
so they're usually it's man made containers, big piles of
leaf litter that have been thrown over the fence. That's
an ideal breeding ground for mosquitoes. It doesn't seem like
it's water but it's an area that will never dry
underneath that pile of leaves, So that definitely becomes an issue.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
So what about Okay, you know all these new neighborhoods
that are popping up everywhere around here of very small yards,
very small pieces of land, and you're you're right next
door to your neighbor. And let's say that you know,
somebody lives living in that sort of a neighborhood right
now is using your service, but their next door neighbor,
and they're doing everything wrong. Right, They're not only not

(46:15):
using mosquito joe, but they got standing water all over
the place. And so, as you mentioned, the mosquitoes we
have here in the middles don't go very far in
their whole lifetime. But in these smaller, you know, lots
right next door, how do you keep them out of
your backyard? Are they're using your service?

Speaker 4 (46:31):
Well, if they're using our service, we're we're putting up
a barrier around that yard. So if mosquitoes do cross
the line, which they do obviously, you know over time,
they just don't do so in you know, in six
hours or three hours, I mean they do so over
the course of weeks and so forth. But you know,

(46:55):
that barrier kind of works like a flea collar. We're
we're doing like a flea and tick shampoo on the
whole yard. So any mosquitos that are there are going
to be eliminated, and new ones that come in are
going to be eliminated or they're going to be pushed away.
And so you know, it's not uncommon to see you know, hey,
we don't have any mosquitos in our yard, but our
neighbors all have them. And that's you know, yard that
we're treating. And that makes sense because it is a

(47:17):
barrier treatment that is put up around it, and we're
eliminating any you know, breeding that's going on on that
in that yard, and so there's no new mosquitos being
you know, born on that property. And so the only
place they're going to come is very slowly from the
neighboring yards and they're going to be eliminated when they
hit that barrier.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
So, as I mentioned, you know, Mother's Day is just
just a couple of weeks away. Here, Let's let's say
that somebody listening is putting, you know, some outdoor activities
for mom on her big day, and uh, you know
they're thinking about how I should call, But but they
put it off or they forget about it, and then
they call you, like, you know, less than a week
before sure, a week from now, and and it would

(47:58):
love for you to come out and and treat their backyard.
How successful and what kind of results can you get
in a short time frame like.

Speaker 4 (48:06):
That, Well, I mean, it's always going to depend on
how severe the infestation is. I mean, you know, I'm
pretty proud of the fact that, you know, one treatment
does make a big difference in the yard. It's not
going to get somebody to zero mosquitos, but if they're
getting eaten alive, you know, one treatment can make a
huge difference right you know, overnight in on that property.

(48:31):
It's usually about three treatments before we fully break that
breeding cycle and get them to where they really want
to be, where they're not seeing any mosquitos at all.
We can accelerate that a little bit. I mean, if
somebody is calling us for a special event for Mother's
Day and they call us a week ahead of time,
we probably do a treatment immediately and then come out
and do a second treatment immediately right before that event,

(48:54):
and just to try and get them to where they
want to be faster, and so that's what we'll do
for scial events sprays. If we're doing like a wedding
venue or something like that, uh, they're doing an outdoor wedding, uh,
so that we will do a you know, a couple
of treatments right before that, you know, just to just
to try and and and get them where they want

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to be.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
A lot faster. As you all say, you mischedule. It
makes outside fun, It makes your backyard funny again, but
it also uh makes you're inside of your home fun
again too, because you guys now allly do mosquitos and
ticks and and and and and inflease, which you're your
spray outside is good at and knocking all those back.
But now you've got the total home uh past control

(49:39):
defense that that we use at our house with spectacular results.
So you guys got got it all covered now, right.

Speaker 4 (49:46):
Yeah, that's uh so we can cover your house and
your yard, you know, any type of tests. We're a
full service test control company, and so we can bundle
those services together and and uh you know, save you
some money and you can just deal with one company
and we'll eliminate spiders from the eaves of the houses.
We'll you know, keep you know, crawling insects like roaches

(50:07):
and ants out of the house and you know, so
you can live live your life and you're inside or
outside on your property without the you know, without having
to deal with pests.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
You do roads. Now you're doing termites now too, right,
termite protection?

Speaker 4 (50:23):
That is correct. Yeah, we are full service test control companies,
so we can keep rats and mice out of the house,
and we can also protect your home from termites. Do
you do snakes and we can do fire ants in
the treatment.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
Yeah, well, is that problem? It seems to me like
a walk in the neighborhood. It's it's it's it's hit
a little earlier this year. Is that your would that
be your assessment with the fire ants?

Speaker 4 (50:42):
It's you know, March is the ideal time to treat
for fire ants. And we can always come out, you
know in April or May and do it. But yeah,
they they really start emerging in March, you know, when
the when the temperatures start to warm up and so forth,
and they start you know, coming out of the ground
and you know from they were overwintering and you know,
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your child steps in one of those mounds.

Speaker 7 (51:07):
Man, they can really light you up and our heartbeat.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
All right, Well, if we get this a super ill
nino they're telling us we're going to get this means
that summer is going to be hotter and wetter, and
that was going to mean a whole lot more mosquitous.
So you guys, sounds like gonna be pretty busy.

Speaker 4 (51:21):
Tray, Yeah, I think so. I mean, we always have
a we're always busy and always have an issue. But
if that super al nino hits, that's it's gonna it's
gonna make that problem that we always have much worse.
And uh and I and I will say again, if
we get a bunch of rain after not having any,
don't be surprised if you see the mosquito population really

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spike pretty quickly.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
Just a matter of days. You told us. All right, So,
folks who want to get a hold of you and
get an estimate to get you out there and try
this out, what they need to do?

Speaker 4 (51:54):
Tray eight five to five Aska Joe eight five to five,
asked Joe. They will ask thank you for your zip code,
and then that will direct you to either of the
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Speaker 1 (52:10):
All right, keep it making things fun, man, We appreciate it, Trey.

Speaker 4 (52:14):
Yeah, you t too, Thank you so much.

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