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August 10, 2024 • 54 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Good morning and welcome. It's the Home improvement show in
the Midlands on one O three point five FM and
five sixty amwvoc Hey, thanks so much for starting your
weekend off well. Us appreciate that my name is Gary David.
In a full hour here of improving your home, whether
you fix it up or get it fixed, or you
name it, we're talking about it this morning. We'll talk

(00:33):
full backsplashes. Boy, these are gaining in popularity with Casey
and Marcus over at Lifetime cabinst Kartops, which by the way,
is something they've been doing for a long long time.
They had a lot of experience with this. James Carwell
will drop in. He's the owner of Freedom Plumbing and
we'll talk to John and Kathy Figner about saving you
time and money by resurfacing, not replacing with rock the top, resurfacing,

(00:55):
getting things under the way. Though. It's Jessica Smith from
Kim Dry of Lexington. Jessica, good to.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
See you, Good morning.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
I guess you all love whether the elements over the
past week.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Okay, yes, Debbie made everything wet and yuck this.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Week and that's what we want to talk about is
the effects that the weather we just had, and we've
had a you know, I mean, this is pretty a
pretty damn summer. I guess we've had our moments where
we didn't get anything for weeks, it seemed like, but
then we've gotten quite a bit. But that we want
to talk about the effects the weather like this has
on well inside your home.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Right, So all of the rain and humidity that we've
been getting this past week, anytime that happens, that activates
the odors that can be in your home. Yes, oh yes,
especially you're in So if you have, if you had
previous pet accidents, even if they're a couple of years old,
they can start smelling when the rain and humidity start

(01:50):
acting up.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
In South Carolina, you talked about this a couple of
weeks ago. What are the big mistakes we make when
we're like, okay, I'll just take care of this problem much,
we wind up doing something we don't realize we're doing right.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Right, So a lot of people do look up DIY suggestions,
or they use water to pour onto a urine spot
and then try to extract it with the home machine.
But that will just actually spread the urine up underneath
the fibers. So The best way to treat that if
you notice an accident happening right away is to blot

(02:24):
as much as you can extract or use your home
machine to extract your blot up as much as you can,
and if possible, treat with a urine treating product. There
are some there are some good store bot products that
you use like in between cleaning. So if you have that,
you know, like I said, treat the urine and then
blot up again, so you don't want to spread. You

(02:45):
just want to keep blotting it up. And it's good
to use a white towel even because you can see
that urine transfer to the white towel and then of
course have us come out for a professional cleaning and
urine treatment with our powerful distraction.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
But the mistake we often make as we get one
of those store bought machines or maybe you got one
on your own, you know, one of those things you
know own, we had one one time, and you just
soak that thing and you go over a couple of times,
and all you've done then is spread it.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
So at that point in time, you're like, let's say
a couple of years down the road, and then we
have a storm come through and you're like, why is
my house smelling? Because now you can't pinpoint where that
urine spot is. It's been spread up underneath the carpet fibers.
So we come in and perform the UV evaluation to
locate and treat the spots not visible to the naked eye.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Let's say, as the example you use, let's say it's
a year later and we have a period like this.
Chances are probably won't be that long before that happens again.
But still it's a year, two or three years later
and suddenly like, where did that come from? Is there
such a thing as it's been too long? Well, we
really can't do anything about it.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
So you're in ken off gas, believe it or not,
five to seven years.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
So yeah, see you can can because those urine crystals
stay in those fibers, and so our product does treat
that in order to break that up molecularly, break it
up and off gas it faster so that it doesn't
smell anymore.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Okay, so it's been a couple of years, we can.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Still treat that yet. Okay, we've had it where people
have like previous owners, like renters have been in the home,
and they've been there for a while and now the
home or we've had where the home has sat because
it didn't sell, so it's been closed off and sitting
on the market to where we've come in and we've
been able to clean and treat that in order to
get it ready to sell again.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
So but something let's say, okay, the dog has an accident,
or maybe he or she intended to do it. Whichever
you go in, you try to do it yourself, you
wind up spreading it, making the issue worse, and you
let it sit and sit and sit, and you think
you've taken care of it, but then it resurfaces down
the road. Doesn't that get into more than just a car?

(05:00):
Now you getting into the padding and maybe the flooring
underneath that.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
So it depends on So usually with just urine and
you treat it as long as you didn't oversaturate it
to get it way down into the padding or onto
the flooring. Now, the difference would be with the area rugs.
So aira rugs, a lot of them don't have a
padding or they just use a little rubber so it
doesn't slide, so there's nothing there to protect the flooring.

(05:23):
So we've picked up several area rugs this week because
we cannot clean those in the home for treating for urine.
We cannot clean that home because area rugs have to
be rinsed, they have to be treated, they have to
be dried. So when we were removing one that was
sitting on the hardwood, the hardwood was actually like black
underneath because it sat too long because there is no padding.

(05:47):
And that's why we cannot treat that in the home
because we have to get it good and wet, good
and treated, and that we don't do those on hardwoods.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
But you do clean hardwoods.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
We can clean hardwoods, however, or we cannot like this.
You cannot treat urine on hardwoods because hardwood is porous,
and in order for us to treat like a carpet,
it has to be good and wet with that treatment.
We like that one to stay wet a little twenty
four to forty eight hours because as that solution dries,
that's what eliminates the odor. Hardwoods will warp if they're

(06:20):
wet for that long. So the only way for us,
the only way that we know that you can treat
it would be like a sand and refinish because then
it's seals that polly that reseals the urine into the
wood and so it doesn't or if it's been discolored
and ruined, then you have to get a company to
come in and match that up in order to prepare.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
That cost you a lot of money. Yeah, what about LVP.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
LVP is usually waterproof because it's design like that. We
don't usually do too much with LVP because if you
have it and there's an accident, you can kind of
wipe that up.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah right, that's a good point yep. Okay, So yeah, yeah,
that's a big problem. You may be smelling that right
now in your home.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
You could be smelling that right now with all the
humidity that's still been coming through this past week. And
so if that is the case, then we can come
in perform that you the evaluation. Like I said, that
gives us an idea where the urine is that you
can't see with the visible naked eye, and then we
can treat specifically those urine spots and get your home
smelling clean again beautiful.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Now, any other issues that we may see arise as
a result of the weather we've just had recently.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Besides everyone, besides the urine odors. You can have kids
tracking in wetness, you can have where or ladies, you can.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Have your husband do the same thing. Boots, I know
you ladies don't do that as only us guys.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Take the shoes off when you come in. But if
you have it, or pets that are going in and out,
or pets that don't like to go out. We have
two that one does not like to be out in
the rain, thunderstorms, whatever. She won't go side. You have
to foresurf. But if you're having those issues or lay
and muddy footprints or just walking in spills being wet,

(08:09):
we can we can take care of all of that.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
So what's the what's the real explain to us the difference, Jessica,
between Okay, we try to diy at ourselves, and that
may come in a variety of forms. You know, maybe
you're you're putting the old carpet cleaning foam stuff on
there and trying to clean it up, or or maybe
again you're you're going and rinting the thing at the
grocery store. What's the difference between how that works and

(08:35):
what you guys do.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
At kim dry Lexi so we of course use eighty
percent less water than traditional steam cleaning.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Here's the name kim dry yep.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
So your carpets are drying just a few hours, with
the exception where we treat for pet urine. But also
with that, we have certain products for certain stains. For
certain so if it's a water soluble stain, we have
a water based solution. If it's something with grease and oil,
we have a grease and oil remover. Oily boot footprints

(09:04):
from the mechanic shop or even some makeups of course
are oil based, so those need a specific type of
treatment before we clean. And then we have a natural
hot carbonation solution that deep cleans and extracts. So you
apply the carbonation solution down, it explodes the dirt from
the fibers and then our extraction whisked away through equipment,
leaving behind no dirt attracting residue. That's the key with

(09:27):
some home products or DIY, it can leave a residue
and then after a little bit you're like, why does
this spot keep coming back? Well, because there's a residue
where you tried to clean it with a cleaner, and
our cleaners don't do that.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
So that that residue just attracts.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
More, right, dirt or whatever, or sugary substances like sweet
tea spills or soda spills. That's also a different type
of cleaner to use to loosen up that sugar stickiness.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
I know we've talked before this is we get now
back to school and all. This is kind of that
time year when a lot of folks are say, okay,
we've got the kids out of the house.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Now, summer's over, numbers over.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Let's get things back to normal. So you guys kind
of have like gus this time of the year. Then
kind of right before the holidays get busy too.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Right, Yes, so this time of year to get it
all cleaned, to get rid of those kids spill summertime activities,
and then right before Christmas before guests coming over. We
like to or our customers like us to have us
come in before they start setting up their tree to
make it all nice and clean and pretty. We have
customers that do that right before parties, so they have

(10:33):
their house all decorated, but they know they're having Christmas
dinner and want us to come before the guests come
so they can have all the decorations up. We do
work around a lot of Christmas trees and then of
course after the tree comes down, so after your guests
come in and spill the wine that they were drinking
and things will come in and clean those up afterwards
as well.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
So you can do a one off, we can do
a recurring service.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
We have. We have some customers that actually because they
have kids and pets and the pets are puppy training,
we are coming in once a month. Well just because
of that foot traffic. We have some customers that do
every quarter, and then we have our six month customers.
We have just our elderly that schedule every year so

(11:19):
for us to come out and clean.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
So it's it's your choice, so you're not stuck it.
You know, they got to do it this way or that.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Really no pressure. It's all on what the customer wants
for what they have going on in their home.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
And if you are on a let's say a recurring
basis with you, but but something happens, I mean you
guys will come out and oh yeah, take care of
it anyway.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
So yep, so hey, I got you scheduled here in September,
but my kid just you know, just spilled grape juice
all over the carpet, or you know, just spilled something
and can you come and clean this up? I have
my my mother in law's coming over, you know, spending
a week with us. I'm like, yep, we'll sketch on
their schedule.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
And remind us it's not just it's not just carpets
and rugs.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
No, it's not just carpets. We'd clean tile and grout.
We clean LVP VCT for commercial use, and of course upholstery,
fabric or pavement.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
In the letter, okay, Kim drive Lexington, Jessica. Always good
to see you. So folks want to get on the
schedule or call and get an estimate, really need to
do so.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
We serve as Lexington and Richland Counties and you can
reach me directly at eight O three five hundred four
seven zero seven or visit us at Lexingtonchemdriy dot com.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
All right, Jessica, enjoy your weekend you too.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
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Speaker 1 (12:41):
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Speaker 4 (12:44):
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Speaker 1 (12:54):
The owner, Marcus.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
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Speaker 1 (13:16):
They've got it all. And if you can't.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
Find exactly what you were looking for when you're there,
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Speaker 1 (14:06):
Hey, welcome back to the Home Improvement Show of the
Midlands on one of three point five FM and five
sixty A m w V O C and welcome back
to the guys from Lifetime Cabins and Countertops. Hey, it's
Marcus Greenwell, Casey Alexander.

Speaker 5 (14:19):
Good morning, morning to hey guys.

Speaker 6 (14:21):
You know, I'm kind of thinking here and they can't
see this, but I'm just glad that I uh grabbed
this shirt and staid the other one I had my hand,
or we would be matchy matchy this morning. Well, I'm
glad you can't see that through the airwaves.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Somebody had gone back home and changed.

Speaker 6 (14:35):
Yeah, you can't have that, can't have that, but it
is still an under armor shirt.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
We're both walking the under armor. Let's oh no, let's
just hey, before we get into the topic for today,
let's get an update here. So we're a little less
than a month left in the big summer sales. Is
that correct?

Speaker 6 (14:58):
A few weeks?

Speaker 1 (14:58):
Yeah, through labor Day weekend.

Speaker 6 (15:02):
Birthday for me two weeks from tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
So okay, well, thanks, happy birthday. Yeah, I'll see you
before then. Yeah, I reached in my happy birthday request. Yeah,
we'll do it next time. We're not gonna we're not
gonna sing that. We don't do that on the show.
We don't sing Marcus.

Speaker 5 (15:19):
No, yeah, especially happening birthday. Yeah, that's a big day.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
So Labor Day weekend is actually uh not until the seventh, right,
is that?

Speaker 6 (15:29):
No Labor Day? Labor is a second I think, Oh.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
It is, isn't it? Yeah? There, I'm sure. Okay, yeah, Monday,
Monday is September second, So okay.

Speaker 5 (15:38):
Get in here a few more weeks. Yeah, we get
in here before Labor Day.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
It's one of those weird holidays looked out remnants by
the way. Yeah, so you got you got two different
big sales going on now for the next couple of weeks.
Let's talk about those for a second.

Speaker 6 (15:53):
So court cell still going through labor Day starting at
pity paddles square foot So y'all check that out. If
that's about the US still i've ever seen, Yeah on
three centimeter thing. Nice fifteen year warranted courts been very,
very very popular. A lot of people were hearing about it.

Speaker 5 (16:10):
Go some other courts on sale too. You just come
in and get some pricing on that stuff though some
whites with the grays in it. It's real popular right now.
Matter of fact, we did some for the governor. So
h on the remnants now is what I'm really excited about.
We're doing fifteen dollars off of square foot off a

(16:31):
retail price, so you get a remnant fifteen off of
square foot, so you're catching a heck of a deal.
I need to get rid of some of these pieces,
so please come on out and get some. One f
three Chapin Road is where they are, and you can
buy some. Actually, Casey knows a lot of them at
the piny Grave there.

Speaker 6 (16:50):
Especially as I'm more mobile these days, walk around there
and try to keep an eye on what's out there.
So I usually have a good idea and I can remember,
and you know, sending you they're looking for something specific
if you need.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
But those remnants were stored at the chap And Road
looking right, yeah yeah, yeah, okay, and big enough bathroom vanities.

Speaker 5 (17:09):
Maybe island. We just sold the island for one client.
Big island. It was like thirty six by eighty inches
or something like that.

Speaker 6 (17:18):
And I've got I've got a lady uh last week
that uh you know, we had a remnant that was
it was two pieces off the same lot that we
had had to cut different pieces out of. Ye but uh,
you know she had picked a piece out at the
warehouse and uh, so you know, I think we have that.

(17:40):
Why don't you go to look at you know, and
now she hasn't been able to see it quite yet
with all this nasty uh this week, but but uh
it's I mean, it should be enough to do her
kitchen and vanity with with these two. Wow. Yeah, the
way they just happened to work out with the right
shape and beautiful. So about that.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
And she's saving fifteen dollars off of the retail price.

Speaker 5 (18:05):
We're getting a lot. We're getting a lot of traction
off of this radio show, by the way. I've been Yeah,
everybody's coming in almost to say thank you personally for
coming in too, because a lot you'd be surprised how
many stories I get told about people that have heard
us on the radio.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Let me thank y'all too for for for listening and
for supporting our You guys have been you know, supporting
not this show, but our show during the week and
all of our programming here on w VOC for years.

Speaker 5 (18:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (18:33):
Thanks, Yeah, it's I mean, we we it's it's an
opportunity for us and and I mean I enjoy coming
in here and having to learn something new and talk
about and I mean this is this is kind of
what got you know, me focused to learn is you
know a lot more than most people out there.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
You're going to come in here, and I was gonna
ask you dumb questions.

Speaker 6 (18:54):
Yeah, I have to have the answers.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Well, if I thanks to do you listening this morning
for warding all of our sponsors.

Speaker 6 (19:01):
And those they're taking notes that maybe a year later
calling up.

Speaker 5 (19:09):
So well, I've just forgotten my whole train of thought
on that note. Never mind, I'll come back to it.
I'll double back.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
You always do.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
I had a good one.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Backsplash, That's what I was had.

Speaker 5 (19:22):
You know, man, your mind Rader, That's exactly what I
was about to say. We've been running to other speaking backsplashes.
It's not new, but it's it's newer process. Whe people
are doing full backsplashes with the granite the courts, I
mean really talking about clean.

Speaker 6 (19:38):
Look and doing it for years, but it's getting much
more trendy.

Speaker 5 (19:43):
Yeah, now that's starting to be on HGTV.

Speaker 6 (19:46):
And and you know, I will say this, if you're
looking for that, we have a lot more experience than
anybody else when other people, you know, five six years ago,
we're turning down the these jobs because they were scared
of them and the labor and everything else we were undertaking.
And we were you know, already doing great job, you know,

(20:07):
book matching and making sure everything looked right. And so
by the now we we're just way ahead on everybody else.
So if you're looking for for that, you've seen that
and you like the look of it. Uh, there is
nobody better than us in town to help you with that.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
So the full backsplash, now this this is because you're
always going there with a little thing on the edge
goes over the backsplash, and what do you call that?
You know, it's like, yeah, but this is going to
go all the way up onto the to the to
the bottom of the cabinets and maybe in other places
all the way up to the ceiling.

Speaker 5 (20:43):
Yes, maybe yeah, yeah, we've done that and several times. Yeah,
good point. So I'm just curious now. Now, laying a
countertop on top of a cabinet is one thing. And
you don't just lay it up there. I mean you're
still you know, gluing it whatever you do there.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Now taking a big old slab and attaching it to
the wall, now, m M suckers are a little heavy.

Speaker 5 (21:04):
Yeah, you got to make sure that those cabinets are
structurally sound to be able to hold it. Sometimes we
even have to go in there and add extra that is.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yeah, you think about that.

Speaker 5 (21:15):
It depends on the cabinet structure a lot of times.
I mean, you know, if you have some less expensive
furniture board type cabinets, they definitely need to be reinforced. Okay,
but we can look at that and tell you what's
going on.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
But as far as getting it to stay on that wall,
I mean, just just a glue function.

Speaker 5 (21:32):
Yeah, we just glue it up to the wall and
then silicon around the perimeter.

Speaker 6 (21:35):
Yeah, and you got to realize, I mean.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
That's the serious glue you got going there.

Speaker 6 (21:40):
It is. But also I mean it's it's super tight
in there. I mean it's it's sitting straight. There's nothing
really pushing against it to make it come forward. And
you've got the outlet covers as well, kind of like
you know, a little bit of pressure once you screw
back in your outletk covers pulling it to the wall too.
So there's a lot that's that's there's nothing really to

(22:00):
bring it forward, and uh, unless something were to come
through the wall or something like that. But I mean
there's so but yeah, it's secured, and there's there's a
lot of things, you know, making it want to go
up against that wall of us wanting to come forward.
So it's it's we make sure it's safe. Okay, not

(22:22):
just with the he's but just I mean the physics
of is.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Well, yeah, this is all's business, y'all. You've been doing
this for a while now, Yeah. I guess that's that's
part of the thing that used to scare people off
from wanting.

Speaker 7 (22:32):
To do it.

Speaker 6 (22:33):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean it's I can understand
the perspective of like, is it you know that's that's
because they were like, do you have anything thinner to
go on the wall? No, we we use the same material.
It's you know, and actually it looks a lot nicer,
so very nice.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
What else can you tell again, Yeah, I'm seeing it too.
I mean, as matter of fact, the home we just sold,
we had thought about doing that. We we actually thought
about when we first put our marble counter stops in there, right,
we said now we won't and then later on we
had you know, buyers regret and reports and wished we
had of because but once you once you put in

(23:12):
your countertops, and then if at a later date you
want to go back in and say, yeah, I like
the full backspid. I mean there are some challenges.

Speaker 5 (23:18):
To that, yeah, trying to match up the color and everything,
because they do come out of the ground differently as
they go they you could come back in and match
it back up is a good possibility, but it's it's
harder to do it later.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (23:31):
Yeah, I tried to tell you. I just kidding. I did,
really though.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Well, we'll get around to it one of these days
of the new on the new one.

Speaker 5 (23:39):
Yeah, sure, we won't make that sense, I ann be
all about that.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
She's already been talking about that.

Speaker 5 (23:46):
Love it, I love it. I can't wait to do
the porch people's job over there. Yeah, that's your neighbors.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Current neighbors cross the street. Yeah, the porch people, y'all
don't be in there in an another week or two,
not long.

Speaker 5 (23:58):
Yeah, I'll probably be pushed them pretty soon.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
I hear they picked out a beautiful.

Speaker 5 (24:02):
Counter Yeah, Fantasy Brown.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
Don't know this, but they're ready for you, because like
a week or so ago, they had all this stuff
clear out of the cabinets in case.

Speaker 5 (24:12):
I love it, I just love it.

Speaker 6 (24:15):
I would really just need to. I mean, just for reference,
there is the only place that needs to be really
cleared out is the top and then underneath the sink area.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Really, yeah, that's what we're getting ready.

Speaker 5 (24:26):
Yeah, yeah, you don't have to, but you know, it
depends on what kind of countertops you're pulling out.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Are there any situations where you cannot do it full backsplash?
I mean you mentioned you'd have to shore up some
of the cabinets, maybe depending on the structure of the
actual cabinets itself. But is there anything that would prevent
you from other than you know, from actually doing a
full backsplash?

Speaker 5 (24:50):
Maybe home maybe that would be one thing. Maybe he
wouldn't want to do it in a mobile home.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
It's got the thinness of the walls. Yeah, and the
weight the weight on.

Speaker 8 (25:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (25:00):
In the home, yeah, have to be built up, had
to be built up.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
You haven't come across anything.

Speaker 6 (25:07):
Yet, yeah, I mean, I mean, yeah, it's you know,
sometimes if there's already exists on a tile that we
have to scrape off and stuff, there there's other steps
that have to be taken by the home.

Speaker 5 (25:18):
You stuff like that.

Speaker 6 (25:18):
Yeah, in between, but you know, usually we're able to
mitigate that and or put you in contact with somebody
that can you know, help you with you know, whatever,
whatever it takes. We I don't think we've found one
yet that we couldn't do it.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Yeah, okay, So backsplashes, full backsplashes, they're hot.

Speaker 5 (25:37):
Yeah, get them white, can't.

Speaker 6 (25:39):
It just looks it's such a cleaner, like, you know,
more continuous slow it just it really does just look bad.
I mean I love a good accent tile, and you
know you can look good with that, but when you
have you know, just that solid just I mean, it
makes it look like you have a granite wall.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (25:56):
It's very cool and it's easy to clean too. Like
you said, it's cleaner to look in easier to clean.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
That's good point, right Yeah all right, so uh check
that out and don't miss out through Labor Day weekend.

Speaker 5 (26:08):
Yeah, hurry up and get in.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
The court sale and the remnant sale.

Speaker 5 (26:11):
Remnant sale. Yeah, I gotta sell those remnants and get
them off that lot.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
There you go. Lifetime cabins and countertops. Where do folks
find you, guys?

Speaker 6 (26:18):
Well, I'll be at forty twenty for an Adena right
behind Starbucks, crossing Northern Tool Over there, we've got.

Speaker 5 (26:23):
One fifty three Chapin Road. You can get David out there,
or you can call me on the telephone eight O
three seven seven two twenty.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
When you call, here's what you're going to get the owner.

Speaker 5 (26:35):
I'll take the call. I'll give you the price. I'll
hook it up right there. I'll get KC on top
of it, or whoever David, whoever's available, I'll get them
to jump on it for you.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Sounds something like hisus, Marcus said Lifetime cabins and countertop.

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Speaker 1 (28:54):
Hey, look, it's are all pal. James Carwell, the owner
of Freedom Plumbing, joining us now here on the Home
Improvement Show of the Midlands. Good to have you, James.
Good morning sir, But well man, I see you all
over the place these days.

Speaker 6 (29:06):
Man, we get around apparently you do.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
And you've been in my neighborhood quite a bit recently too.
I've noticed.

Speaker 8 (29:14):
Oh yeah, did a tankless water heater install for one
of your neighbors terrific.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
I'm sure she's happy with that. That's something we hadn't
talked about in quite some time, James, tankless water heaters.
Maybe we'll talk about that today.

Speaker 8 (29:26):
What do you think absolutely sounds.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Good of the water heaters you're installing these days? Is
it is it getting to be where you know, you're
doing more than tankless ones than any other any other.

Speaker 8 (29:37):
Type, you know, they're definitely more prevalent nowadays than they were.
And you know, the situation kind of dictates which which
route is the best route to take. You know, if
you get a small home, just one person in the house,
yes you can get some energy savings out of switching

(29:59):
from a trick to a tankless natural gas or propane tankless,
but not every situation really is needed to have a
tankless as far as the expense, so it's typically about
twice the cost of the install of the normal water heater.
What they can think of normal water heater around fifteen,

(30:21):
a tankless around three thousand, all parking.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
I'm getting it. Is that installed or is that just
for the unit of solf.

Speaker 8 (30:28):
Yeah, that's that's installed. And again it can range. We've
done some tankless installs for forty two hundred. They go
with the bigger unit that has a built in recirculating
pump and it's a condensing model, which means it's more efficient.
So yeah, it can range. And depending on the house
size and how many bathrooms and everything.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Now, just curious here from a cost standpoint. So let's
say you go twice as much using your example of
fifteen for the conventional old style three thousand of the
tankless installed. What sort of over the course of a year,
I mean, what sort of cost savings are we talking
about in lower electricity costs.

Speaker 8 (31:12):
From the numbers I've run and from what I've heard
as far as recovery time on your investment above and
beyond what you would spend on a regular heater, it's
about a fifteen year recovery time and that's about the
life span of the heater, so you know, it kind
of breaks even so to speak over the life span
of the heater. But the benefit is more in the

(31:36):
fact that you have endless hot water. So situations where
you have soaking tubs or elderly might have had a installed, yeah,
those you're not typically you're not going to be able
to fill up a tub like that with a standard
tank style heater. You're going to run out of hot

(31:57):
water before that thing is full. So certain cases, a
lot of people in the home, teenage kids get taking showers,
back back, running out of hot waters not something you
have to worry about with the tankless water here, What.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Could should you expect? And I well, let's go let's
go here, Okay, regular style water heater. I'll just called
old fashioned for sake of argument here. They come in
different sizes, right, I mean, depending on the size of
the home, the number of showers and fixtures and things
like that. What are your options there?

Speaker 8 (32:35):
Typically forty or fifty. You have some cases where you
can do an eighty. They're now considered more light commercial
than residential, but it can still be used in a
residential application. So I mean, is it good?

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Is it possible that you could say, well, I don't
want to you know, invest the extra money for the tangles.
I just want to get as big a model as
I can. Can you get a you know, one big
enough to ensure that let's say a family of four
is not going to un out of hot water.

Speaker 8 (33:07):
That's hard to say, depending on their habits. So if
you get somebody that hops in the shower and they
stand in there for thirty minutes, you're going to have
a problem. Typically you get about a seventy percent yield
from a water heater, so you know, forty gallons, you
get seventy percent of that, and then it's going to
start cooling down pretty quick after that.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Okay, an average shower, an average shower, let's say you're
hopping in out of the shower, say five minutes. You
don't have that that teenager in a house that likes
a thirty minute shower, you know, a five minute shower,
because yeah, I've had those. Uh, the five minute shower
is going to consume about how much how many gallons
of water.

Speaker 8 (33:43):
Depends on how hot you like the water, depends on
the temperature that the water is set at. So I
guess the best way to kind of describe what happens
there is the hotter your temperature the shower, the less
hot water you're going to use as far as volume
of actual water to reach the desired temperature that you're
trying to Because if you get one hundred and forty
degree water and you're mixing that with seventy degree cold water,

(34:07):
you're going to get that one hundred degrees a lot
with a lot less hot water than if you had
one hundred and twenty degree hot water in seventy degree
cold water.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
I got you.

Speaker 8 (34:14):
So there's a lot of factors that kind of play
into how long and how you know, much of a
shower you can take with a certain gallon amount in
a water here.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
So really, again, this is not so much that I'm
going to I'm going to go make the investment, take
the plunge here, so to speak, and go for the
tankless water heater. It's not so much a question of
I'm going to save that much more in electricity of
the course of a month or a year, even you
mentioned a fifteen year return on that this kind of
break even point, but it is. Yeah, I'm tired of

(34:48):
runing out of hot.

Speaker 8 (34:49):
Water mainly, and so you're definitely going to have a
lot more energy savings if you're going if you're transitioning
from an electric style tank water here to a tankless
because that electric heater or even a gas on that
for that matter, is gonna heat cool whether you use

(35:09):
it or not. So let's say you left your house
for a month, that water heater is going to cool down,
heat back up, cool down, heat back up, and then
can continue to cycle whether or not water is being
used in it or not, because eventually, you know you
have transfer of heat. Heat is going to leave the
water and it's eventually going to need to heat back

(35:31):
up because the thermostat says, hey, we're not hot enough.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Well, OK, since you brought that up. Let's say you
are going on a sabbatical of the sort you're gonna
leave for a month. Uh, you know, short of just
I guess going wherever it's located in shutting off the
pilot light or what have you. There's no real other
way to just shut that thing down, or should you
even try to.

Speaker 8 (35:54):
You can on a gas you can turn your breaker
off I guess thermostat to vacation, which is pretty much
just means the pilot light stays lit and it doesn't
heat and cool while you're going.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
All you said on electric, right, do all electric water
heaters have.

Speaker 8 (36:10):
That that's a that's a gas.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Model, gas model, Okay, yeah.

Speaker 8 (36:14):
You just this knob typically on the front of the unit.
Most of them are red, red knobs on the front
of the unit. It'll have you know where you can
change the temperature setting on the thermostat, right, and if
you go all the way down it typically is the
vacation mode for the gas unit, and on the electric
I mean you could always just flip the braker off.

(36:36):
I would also recommend if you're doing that, to shut
the water off to the house. That way, if you know,
long hold, something happens that doesn't happen for the entire
time you're gone, or until you're one of your neighbors
sees water coming out of your front stairs. What.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Yeah, yeah, that's kind of the new with the water heater.
That's just in general.

Speaker 8 (36:54):
Yeah, no, I agreed, Yeah, side note, Yeah, that.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Would be a horror already. Come back to right there. Hey,
for somebody who's purchased the house in the last few years,
they haven't replaced a water heater, and maybe they just
never really thought much about it. How can you quickly
tell whether you've got an electric water heater or gas
water heater.

Speaker 8 (37:15):
Well, the power cord going into the top of the
heater usually lets you know. And the gas heater is
going to have some sort of vent, whether it be atmospheric,
which means the vent goes straight up, typically through your
ceilings or your roof, or out the wall, which is
considered to direct v so it makes a ninety degree

(37:37):
turn and comes out the sidewall. Typically you'll see those
applications in a garage. You know, your heater be in
the corner of the garage, and then the vent will
turn and go out the wall and you'll outside you'll
see the little vent cap, a termination cap for the exhaust.
The combustion gases.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
I guess cross spaces will be that way too, pretty much,
wouldn't they.

Speaker 8 (38:00):
I've seen some direct applications inside of a cross space.
You just got to have a lot of room for it.
Because they don't make like short right direct vent water ears,
They're typically going to be pretty tall.

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Freedom Plumbing James Carwell, he is the owner and that
folks have questions for you, or they just need a
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Welcome back to the Home Improvement Show of the Midlands
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Speaker 12 (41:10):
Top, and congratulations on the Olympics thing.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Yeah that's cool. Yeah, that was That was kind of
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up tomorrow. Feather In your cap but well, not mine,
but the company for which I work. Yes, right, because
it's pretty cool you get to be part of it. Yeah,
I'm not getting any money off of that, but that's okay. Hey,
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(41:35):
it really boils down to two things. Saving time, saving money?

Speaker 12 (41:40):
Yep, saving time, saving money, saving the planet. Oh I
always forget to save the planet. Pay and you know
all the aggravation that goes along with it. But yeah, man,
it's great. I'm so proud to be, you know, a
large part of the industry. So it's really cool. We're
proud resurfacing and not replacing it. I gotta tell you
this too. It you talk about saving the planet. I

(42:01):
was out.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
Or our boys had an old sofa that my wife
kept saying, you need a new sofa in your condo,
and they were like, you know, they're guys, right, pay
something your old guys. They're like, I don't care. Well,
she went ahead and got them another one anyway, and
so you know, we we hauled the old one out
of the second story apartment a condo rather uh and uh,

(42:24):
of course I don't know how we got in to
begin with, because we couldn't get it out, but it
was heading for the for the dump anyway. So we're
cutting all the top of all the stuff it out
get out, and I'm taking it to the landfill. Okay,
there's a whole other story surrounding that I won't get
into right now, but anyway, that's a landfill is a
scary place, man. Yeah, you talk about saving the planet, right,

(42:46):
A landfill is a scary place. You look at all
that stuffed pile up and pile up and piled up
over there. Uh So this is one of the things
that with the what you do. You're not talking about
ripping stuff out and hauling it off to the landfill, right,
Just the same stuff. Yeah, it just doesn't look like
the same stuff. It's just old colors.

Speaker 12 (43:05):
Mostly, we do tear out a lot of toilets and
throw those in the landfill because they're big and wasteful
and short. I don't know if humans just got taller,
or maybe they just shrunk the toilets. Maybe they get smaller.
I don't know, but you know, they're making larger toilets.
Now that's very convenient, but we throw a lot of
those out. They have huge, wasteful tanks on them. Yeah,
so they pay for themselves, given enough time anyway, so
get rid of them. But other than that, pretty much

(43:27):
everything stays right where it is. If there's nothing wrong
with it other than it's an ugly color, what's the
purpose of tearing it all out and put it all
back together again? You know, it's not humpty dumpty here.
So the craftsmanship back in the sixties was really good.
Oh yeah, those tile guys were fantastic. So they had
bad choices of color. We can change that. And when

(43:49):
we do, the grout lines are sealed. So there's another
plus right there. Waterproof mold can't grow in them. Ladies
don't have to clean grout lines anymore. It's just great.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
Now that's not said to be sexist because it's just
the fact that men don't clean ground. Yeah, we know,
we don't.

Speaker 12 (44:04):
It's it's got a little mold and we're like, oh,
it's anything, leave it alone.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
It's the master bathroom. Guess just coming in here anyway,
what don't care? Right, Yeah, that's that's that's our perspective. Yeah,
thing from a guy perspective.

Speaker 12 (44:15):
Yeah, but the ladies there sick and tired of grabbing
the old toothbrush and they probably grab our toothbrush.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Too, probably now that you mention it. You and a
lot of what you do is right here in a bathroom.
I mean, you have any surface in that bathroom. Any
surface can be respected.

Speaker 12 (44:32):
Right even you know, sometimes we walk in there and
the only thing that's not green is a mirror, and
guess what it's reflecting green? So but yeah, we can
change the colors, all those tiles, floor, tile, walls, bathtub,
you know, vanity top, all that stuff, leave it right there.
We're typically in and out in three days, maybe a
fourth day if it's a really big bathroom. But uh, typically,

(44:54):
you know, three days and we're done. And typically a
twenty thousand dollars job or more, we're in and out
for four thousand or less. So I just don't know
what's not to love about that. I used to do
the gut it, you know, gut the bathroom, throw all
everything away. Okay, now let's put all the new stuff in.
But and sometimes that's still good. If people want to

(45:14):
change the location of maybe the bathtub, or change it
into a shower, or take a shower and put in
a bath in that situation, yeah, call one of my friends.
I got several of them that can do that stuff
and go from there. But if everything's in a great location,
it's functionally fine. It's just pink, yellow, green, or blue.
Call me.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
I'll fix that super.

Speaker 12 (45:35):
Fast and save you fifteen twenty thousand dollars doing it.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
On each bathroom. And when it comes to what you
were able to do, I mean it's really I guess
the possibilities are limitless.

Speaker 12 (45:47):
They quite are quite limitless. Yeah, we're only really limited
by our imaginations. And I work with the customers a show.
I bring all my samples right to the job.

Speaker 8 (45:56):
Here.

Speaker 12 (45:56):
Let's pick out some samples and I'll, you know, introduce
some colors that people are going forward. What's selling right now?
A lot of people are putting a house on the
market and they have a pink, yellow, green, or blue bathroom,
and you know that's not going to sell. The first
person that walks through the door, a potential buyer, the
first thing they think when they walk into that bathroom is, well,
there's twenty grand right there. And then they walk into

(46:16):
the other one. You know, one's green, one's pink, and
in their mind it's forty grand. So they're going to
go if they like the house, they're going to go
to the realtorn and say, well, let's put an offer
on the house, but let's drop the price forty thousand dollars.
So if you're the realtor that's on the buyer side,
you know, the buyer, the realtor for the buyer or
the seller side, I'm sorry, he can inform the customer

(46:37):
if they know about this.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
You know, you can.

Speaker 12 (46:39):
Put three four thousand bucks tops into each one of
these bathrooms and you're not going to have to worry
about negotiating all that money. In fact, we could probably
up the price of your house. So people putting houses
on the market and people that just bought a house
with all these bathrooms, this is a really big deal
for them. So the real estate agents out there that
don't know about this, a lot of them are starting

(47:01):
to figure this out. But the ones that don't, boy,
I highly recommend give me a jingle and I'll at
least have lunch with you to sit down and explain
how this works. And sure all I can save your
clients so many thousands of dollars. It's it's a blast.

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get a good between that and the social your social
media channels.

Speaker 12 (47:24):
I mean you can see how this works. Yeah, I've
got videos like crazy. I mean you can watch my videos.
I've been doing videos for I don't even know how
long since Facebook started. So there's hours, literally hours of videos.
You can watch them, before and after pictures, just all
it's loaded. And we got a five star Google rating.
Not a whole lot of contractors have a five star
Google rating, but I've never had less than a five

(47:46):
and I'm very proud of that.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
I take this stuff to heart.

Speaker 12 (47:48):
I'm very passionate about it, and I mean this means
like everything to me.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
What's the most poppy You talk about unlimited possibilities when
it comes to colors and the the flaking I think
you call it.

Speaker 12 (48:02):
Yeah, it's a multi stone flaking. I don't make these paints,
of course, you know, I buy them. You can't buy
them from Sherwin Williams, their Benjamin More. The quality is
quite high and it's a specialized paint. It's you know,
crylic polyurathans with an H five H six hardness. They
could make it even harder than that if they want
it to, but you don't want it to be brittle,
so it's right where it needs to be.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
I mean, they've got it pretty perfected.

Speaker 12 (48:24):
The only thing really that change is now some of
the odors they're trying to get low, lower VOCs because
they're protecting people like me who apply the stuff. I mean,
we wear respirators and everything, but I don't want to
breath that. I don't want my customers, I don't want
their dogs. I don't want anybody to breed this stuff.
So we ventilate really really good to protect every body involved,
especially since we're in it every single day. But so

(48:45):
we do everything we can do to protect ourselves, and
it's a great industry. The only thing really that changes
much are the color selections.

Speaker 6 (48:52):
And what's hot.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
What's hot right now was everybody what were most people asking?

Speaker 12 (48:55):
Boy still, I mean, grays are actually still pretty popular,
but we're going from larger flecks that we used to
put on like countertops and kitchens and vanity tops. We
used to put larger flecks in there, but now we're
going to a lot tinier fleck and not nearly as
much of it. I can change the background color which
is an epoxy, our primer coats, which is a two
party POxy that can be any color. But you know,

(49:18):
Beijas are actually starting to work their way back in again,
and uh and I just follow. And for floors, we're
doing a lot of these really dark dark stone not black,
but dark stone gray that's really setting off the color
and gives you some pop when you're looking at like
a like a white sands. It's not white, but very
very light color on the tile walls. Then we put

(49:39):
a really dark floor on there and then they throw
their favorite you know, uh not Towell, but a rug
down on top of that.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
Boy, they look amazing.

Speaker 12 (49:49):
And we've got several of those, you know videos you
can watch on my Facebook wall that's pretty pretty active,
but uh, you can see a lot of that and uh,
saving people so much money.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
It's just it's just great. Really, it really is makes
life good, an't it. You see you do this in
my parents home before we put on the market. About
real estate agents, yeah, a real estate agent for that
transaction was like, wow, okay, this is cool.

Speaker 12 (50:16):
Fast, inexpensive, looks great, waterproof. Nothing went in landfill, or
did we We didn't replace it.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
Toilet.

Speaker 12 (50:25):
And but if somebody, you know, they're having the hardest
part of this really is picking the colors out, and
sometimes they just can't make a decision. And I don't
want to steer anybody into something they don't want to
do or don't know what they want to do. And
I work with a you know, you know Paige Butler.
Of course, we work with her a lot, and she
helps people because she's just got a great eye for
that stuff. So if we need to take it further

(50:45):
and bring her in, we can always do that. And
then that way the customer feels really confident in what
they're doing. And yeah, that works out really good too.
And if it's something that you know, if I don't
think you know, what I do for your bathroom is
the best way to go. Maybe maybe it is good
a good idea to get that big jacuzzi tub that
nobody wants. Maybe it is a good idea to get
that out of there and make a big old shower stock.

(51:06):
I will bring in some of my friends, I give
it to them. I don't want to subwork to anybody.
I don't need to do that. I'm here to save
people money. That's what I'm all about, and that's where
this industry actually came from, is saving people many thousands
of dollars. So I just pass it on to my
friends and they're good contractors, so it's just a great

(51:27):
mutual relationship I've got with all these people.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
I always feel as important to remind folks because maybe
you're hearing about this process for the first time. This
is not coming in and laying a coat of paint
over something. No, this is a you can't brush and
roll it. It's very specialized equipment that we use it.
It does smell bad. I can make it smell great,
but gas doesn't smell good. They could make gas smell great,
they don't for a reason. If it smell great, you know,

(51:51):
little kids be up there sniffing that stuff. So we
don't want it to smell good. And I do go
to great lengths to make sure that we ventilate really,
really good. But other than that, the downsides, I just
I don't really see anything. There's a lot of preparation.
It comes in before you get to the payoff.

Speaker 12 (52:10):
Yes, like painting walls. You know, ninety percent of it
is prep and we'll spend you know, eight hours before
we even touch us prayer, so lots of chemicals. We
acid wash things to open up the pores, because we
don't just want a good chemical bond, we also want
a good mechanical bond, So we open the pores up,
throw a molecular bonding agent on top of that, and

(52:30):
then epoxy primer, which is incredibly adhesive, and then then
we start with our multi stone flecking, and then acrilic
pile of the earth on top dose top coats, which
don't yellow unlike you know, the epoxy clear coats. Acrylic
pile of earthans do not yellow. So whatever it looks
like when we're done, which is going to be great,

(52:50):
it's going to look like the same as in five
ten years as it does day one. It does not
change colors like an old fish somebody caught. Oh I'm
so proud of my fish, and they send it to the
taxidermists to get home hanging on the wall and admire
it for about a year, and then that thing starts
looking like a shoe tongue.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
So this doesn't have that problem, saving you time, money,
and saving the planet. Yep, rock the top resurfacing. All right,
how did you folks get a hold of all John,
and get on the schedule, get an estimate from you.

Speaker 12 (53:17):
Well, I would go to Rock Thetop Resurfacing either dot
com or join us on Facebook at Rock Thetop Resurfacing
and the number is eighth three nine to nine eight
two zero eight eight. Kathy will answer the phone and
call you back if she's already not on the phone,
and we'll get you all hooked up with an estimate
and pick out some great colors.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
There you go, all right, John, Good to see you, buddy,
You too, Gary, Thank you.

Speaker 8 (53:39):
Hi.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
This is Gary David. You've heard me talk for years
about Anthony John Construction and the wonderful jobs they do
for folks all across the Midlands. When it comes to
roofing and gutting, well it's the same people doing the job,
but the name has changed. That's right now. It's Beaver
Roofing and Beaver Gutters. Leave it to Beaver for all
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