Home Improvement Show 09-23-23

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Episode Transcript

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Good morning again. Welcome, it'sthe Home Improvement Show of the Midlands.
Good morning to you and thanks forjoining us on this Saturday morning. Another
game day here Williams Bryce staying firstSEC home game of the season and our
best game Cock coverage starts at fourthirty this afternoon. Christopher Thompson, John
Whittle, they'll be over at ourBluff Road hang out right there in the

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shadows of Williams Bryan Stadium. You'reready for Mississippi State first time. This
is what twenty sixteen. I thinkthat they've they've come to town, so
of us, sold out crowd andagain our best game coverage for thirty.
As soon as that final whistle blowsfifth quarter postgame calling show, we'll crank
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game Cock victory. All right,coming up, my friends, James carl

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Well from Freedom Plumbing will be joiningus here in just a couple of minutes.
Terry Nation from Nation Builders. We'lltalk. I think we're talking about
kitchens today, kitchen remodeling and theycan get expensive. Why that is?
And Casey and Marcus from Lifetime Cabinusand Countertops they put those countertops on those
kitchen cabinets, and they're in themidst of doing some very unique projects and

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we're going to talk about that.Plus, if you're just looking for a
remnant, they've got some specials runningright now on how you put your hands
on them without any charge at allfor a couple of things they would normally
charge for. So I'll explain thatcoming up on this morning's edition of The
Home and Prove and Show the Midlands. We get started, though normally I
would say with a John and KathyFigner rock the top reserfacing, but today

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it's just Kathy and good to haveyou, Good to see you. Well,
I guess it's turnabouts fair play becauseyou know last time John came in
and here and you weren't here,and well we all know that you I
mean, jump man he is.So what's the word I'm looking for?
Passionate? Yes, and rightfully?So yeah about what y'all Rocket Tip loves

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it. This is really something.A matter of fact, my wife is
that they said we gotta get youall out of our house because we've got
a guest bath. It's one ofthose bathrooms with a the bathtub slash shower
thing is I don't know what youcall that. It's it's not a it's
not a tile or anything like that. It's it's a whole insert. It's

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one of those yeah, that wholepiece thing, you know, and those
things get old, yeah, kindof dingey looked and suddenly wait, that
looks like two different colors there,and you try your best to get it
clean and it just doesn't happen.Right, Yep. These are the sorts
of things that you guys are themasters of coming in and fixing. Yep.
We can come in, resurface thatpuppy and make it look brand new.

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You don't have to rip it outsave any money. So for that
person that doesn't want to rip itall out, we are a perfect solution.
And not only does it save yourmoney, but it saves you time,
yes, lots of time, andsaves our landfill. Good point,
Yeah, good point. I haveto throw throwing the landfill and you can
because I guess, thinking about thisin this particular application, I mean it

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would be I mean, it wouldbe a hard thing to rip out of.
What do you call that a whatdid you just refer to that whole
insert? The surrounds. I meanprobably ripped out fairly easily. Yeah,
I hobab you could be put backin fairly easy. I think get a
big old insert what do you dowith that thing? Yeah? But but

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even at that, it's still amore costly endeavor than just coming in and
taking that and resurfacing that. Yep, a lot a lot more costly to
just to tear it out completely.Right, So we are a solution where
we can resurface tubs, tiles,countertops. If you're okay with you know,

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the placement of it and the functionof it. You just want it
to look more beautiful. That's wherewe can come in. Even if there's
holes and tie holes in a tub, chips and tiles, cracks, missing
tiles, we can take care ofall that as well and resurface make it
look beautiful and new fraction of thecost. So how do you do this?

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That's where he has the actual processthough from my over here in the
conversations and seeing our guys work,there is a big process and a lot
of it is prepping, and youneed to make sure it's prepped correctly so
that everything sticks and it will lastforever. So from what John has explained,

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they'll prep it and clean it properly, and then they have a molecular
bonding agent which is like a bondingagent for epoxy, and then the epoxy
gets put on there, and thenthere's any fucking or beautiful you know,
beautiful applications that you want on there, and then and then he finish this

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off that with acrylic pile you're thing, and any color you want. Yep,
there's lots of choices of colors.I'm suspects. I'm suspecting John won't
do pink though, pink bathroom typically. Typically we're trying to get rid of
the pink mission to get rid ofpink bathroom. Yeah, pink, green,

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blue, yeah, yeah, yeah. So again you mentioned I mean
really, I mean, is thereany surface you can't do? I mean,
it's vinyl, vinyl, it willnot stick to vinyl. So there's
a small bathroom floor, if ithas tile in it, we of course
can resurface it. We give ita texture as well, it can be

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anti skid. But if that's vinyl, then now that our products are not
going to stick to that, it'lleat it right up. And this I
know John has mentioned that this isevolved over time. I mean, yeah,
what you can do today is whatyou can do five, ten,
fifteen years ago, is right.Yeah, the industry as a whole has
gotten better and better and products getbetter and better, and so it's it's

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great. We love it. John'sextremely passionate about saving people money for the
people that need that. I mean, some people out they want to maybe
rip out the master but maybe thehaul bath or the guests bath. They
don't want to spend as much money. That's where we can come in and
help them out with that. Pose commercial projects too, So pretty much

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any place that has a lot oftile we can help out with. Now,
what are in your experience and againyou're not You're not the one out
there doing this every day. Iget it. But you know when you
talk to folks for the first timeabout this process, are there certain questions

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that pop up all the time.How long is it gonna last? Good
questions? So the industry standard outthere's five year warranty that we and behind.
It'll last lifetime. You just haveto make sure you take care of
it. And it's super easy toclean. It's super easy to take care
of, so it's really not anissue if something happens to us because somebody's

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you know, dropping a knife orright a tool or something on it that's
you know, going to cause thatwould cause damage anyways, whether it's resurface
exactly, you're gonna mess it upanyhow, no matter what. Yeah,
the you make that five year guarantee, but again it lasts. Are there
Are there any when it comes tocleaning and maintain these surfaces? Is there

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anything different that needs to be doneby the homeowner business owner when it comes
to that. Yep. So themanufacturer of the codings, they suggest and
it's pretty much all they're like afour or nine fantastic. Follow the directions.
If it says to leave it onthere for five minutes, you leave

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it on there for five minutes,right, wipe it clean. I'm really
with our products. I personally justuse earth friendly products. I wipe it
off with a microfiber cloth and goodto go. Super simple. Just just
to put some put us into somecontext. And so I started off by
talking about this shower insert and alot of folks have those. Yep.

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Uh, certainly tile bass or beautifuland you can handle those with ease.
But again, these inserts, Iguess it was a period of time.
Then when when every house it wasbuilt, that's what you got. Yep,
what was it a shower insert orwhat have you? I know there
are again there are companies will comeout there and he'll rip those out and

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do all that. All right,Okay, yeah, you want to save
the money and say the time,this is the route to take. I
don't know, And can you giveus kind of a ballpark example of a
rip out and redo the cost andthe time versus this process rock the top

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resurfacing. Yeah, so like ona small bath on the insert itself or
you know, and there are otherfactors involved that John would have to look
at it, but typically it's realball white ballpark context to typically between for

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the whole thing, roughly a thousandgive it, give or take. But
if you were to tear it outcompletely, I'm but at least twice at
the y I would say at leasttwice, and not only that, but
the process itself. John, Italked about this a few weeks ago.

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You may be inclined to think aboutit and say, well, it's kind
of like just putting a code ofpaint on it. Well, no,
no, no, it might looklike that as if you if you watched
him do it. But as yousaid, it's it's not paint, and
the key part is what you dobefore you even get to that stage,
right, Yeah, get prepped andready. So there's a huge process and

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it's done. Sometimes we'll use paint, but it's it's coatings. There's different
layers right of the coatings and mixpart A with part B. Let it
induct and get down there in acertain period of time. So it's not
just you know, spray and goand right. Yeah, yeah, I
don't some spray paint on and go. No, this is not all what
we're talking about. Although we striptubs like that where people have done that

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before, so we come behind themand fix the work that failed. Yeah,
but the whole process from start tofinish and again depending on the size
of the project. But you guysare often in and out in just a
day a day. Yeah, Andhow long do you have to wait before
you can use it again? Twentyfour hours like a lot of things,
yep, but a new countertops yougotta wait twenty four hours. Yeah,

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okay, very good. It's rockthe top resurfacing again, not just a
shower and so I'm sorry to dominatethe conversation with that. That was top
of mine with me this morning.But tile pretty much anything as you mentioned
with Vinyl. Yes, in hardservice, okay, any hard service.
Well it's kitchen, bathroom, Imean you name it. Yep? All

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right, Well, how to folksreach out? What's what's the next step
to take? Here? They cango to Rock the Top Resurfacing dot Com
or call us at eight zero threenine eight two zero eight eight Right.
Hey, don't work John so hard? Will you? He loves st work.
Yeah, and he does great workat it. You both do.
It's Rock Top Reserfacing, Kathy.Good to see you yourself a great weekend,

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com. We're back on the homeimprovement show The mid Let's appreciate you joining

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com You can pull them up anytimeyou want and listen back. James Carwell,
now the owner of Freedom Plumbing,joining us on the program. James,

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good morning, my friend, Goodmorning Gary. How you been.
I've been all right and you doinggood, doing good, excellent. I've
been needed to ask you because wetalked about this couple months ago. How
ironic that you in the plumbing businesshad an issue with a flood in your
home that really set you guys fora loop. As I recall, y'all,
y'all all recover from that now,still dealing with it. Unthough it's

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got all the floors in downstairs,but still no furniture in the house.
Let's get two beds upstairs and uhwaiting on the moving company once we get
the floors done. I think it'sbeen about a four month process at this
point. I'm gonna say it's spentmonths, hadn't it. Wow? The
power of water, the destructive powerof water in this case, that's right,

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Just a failing appliance can cause quitea bit of disruption in your life.
So you're not the only person thatI've talked to some of those things
and check on them. Yeah,you know, the only person I've talked
to you recently has had an appliancefail through no fault of their own and
had an issue with that. It'suh seems to be going around or the
cheap stuff they're building in China.I guess I don't know. Anyway,

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they don't make things like they usedto that they don't do they You gotta
if you got something old and itworks, hang on to it as long
as you can. That's right.Today's topic houses that got smells, and
maybe the default thought for everybody wouldbe, well, it's got something new
with my plumbing, but not necessarilyYes, I would say it's probably one

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of the hardest things to diagnose,just because there's a lot of variables that
could be causing some type of smellin a home. So yeah, you
know, get a customer call in, oh, we got the sewer smell
in the house. And the mostlikely culprit I would say, would be
the wax ring on the toilet ifit gets compromised. Basically, what you

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have is those gases in the plumbingsystem, in your drain system can escape
from underneath the toilet and get intothe home. Yeah, this is a
ring. You can't see this isunderneath the toilet up underneath it direct right
now. Typically there's other evidence thatcould suggest that that's going on. If

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you've got a cross space, thefirst thing we would do is go underneath
the house full sum insulation, backwhere your toilet is, check and see
if there's any moisture around where thedrain pipe comes through. For the toilet
on a slab, a little bitmore difficult if you have venolium. If
there's any discoloration around the tool,that kind of a purplish or darker color

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around that toolet than that would suggestthat water is getting underneath that venolium.
But other than that, it canvary. It could be fixtures that don't
get used very often. Let's saylike a shower you never use in a
guest bathroom. If the water inthe pea trap, which is the part

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that intentionally holds water to keep gasesfrom coming up, if that water evaporates
over time, then basically you havean open airway to your sewer system which
will allow those gases to come up. I guess we stop to think about
it. I mean, there area lot of potentials here, so it
really is pretty phenomenal that you know, for the most part, day in

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and day out, everything works asit's supposed to and keeps from having those
issues. Yeah, as long asthe pea traps have water in them and
and everything is sealed properly. Youknow, again the toilet being the major
one, because there is that thisis the only fixture that you have really
a seal with a waxy substance ison your toilet, and then if there's

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any kind of rocking or movement,once that wax is compressed, it doesn't
bounce back. So if it rocksoff of the wax, then you've compromised
that seal at that point. Thatway, that's one reason you need to
make sure when the toilet's installed,it's you know, if there's any gaps
from the porcelain to the floor,that that you support this properly with the

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wedges so there isn't any rocking ofthe toilet over time. Yeah, don't
you bring that up? When whennew homes are built new construction, do
contractors typically higher plumbers like yourself toinstall these fixtures or is it just a
you know, guy's building a housepopm in there. Well, typically you'll
have like a two stage process withyour plumbing contractor one called the rough fin,

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which is where they put all thepipes in while the walls are still
open, and then a trim outwhich is where they come and put the
toilet in, put your shower handlesand shower heads on, and all the
faucets and the sinks and stuff likethat. So I would imagine that most
of the time it is the plumbingcontractors that do those installs, But there

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are some companies out there. Theymay you do floor replacement or something like
that. They may take the toiletout or a place the floor under it
and then put the toilet back in. But a problem with that is if
they don't know what they're looking for, there could be potential issues that need
to be addressed before that toilet canbe reinstalled. So it's it's it's always

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good to have a plumbing contractor dothat removal and replacement. That way,
any issues can be addressed before youwrought your brand new floor out or cause
damage to something that you just gotfreshly installed. That's a great tip there.
I mean, don't don't try togo on the cheap of that thing
right there, uh, because theensuing costs and UH and and hardship and

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and all could could could be prettysizeable if it's not done correctly. Oh.
Yeah, the first house we bought, I'd say a few months in,
I noticed a tiles started to popoff of the floor in our guest
bathroom, went under the house,pulled some installation back, and found wet
wood all the way from the bathroominto an adjacent bedroom. Whole bathroom had

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to be ripped out, sub subfloorwas rotten underneath the tub and everything like
that. So at that point everythinghad to come out. Do you get
And it was all due to awax ring on the toilet. Yeah,
I don't know if I've ever askedyou this or not, or if you
do. Uh. And and bythe way, how much was that wax
ring? I mean, if youbought one new, what would it cost

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you? Oh maybe six dollars sixbucks? Wow? Yeah? Yeah.
And in some of those situations youcan't even tell that it's happening because let's
say they calk around the entire baseof the toilet when they install it.
If it leaks, the water wouldnever typically if it's calked good, it
would never come out there. Itwould just seep into the wood, you

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know, on a cross space flooror a second story floor. Now on
the second story, you would probablynotice evidence of you know, water in
the ceiling, which is you know, a sign of a potential leak,
especially underneath the toilet of a waxdrink. That's never a good day.

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No, no, that's not.And you know a lot of people don't
want to cut their sheet right out. But the problem with not cutting and
just guessing as you're doing exactly that, well, it's probably your wax drink
because the water is here. Well, water takes the path of least resistance
and it always goes to the lowestspot. So I've done a leak in
a ceiling before, where the waterwas dripping through the ceiling in one spot.

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We cut it open there and there'snot even plumbing in the area.
The plumbing was ten feet away.It just happened to be that the ceiling
was sloped in such a way thatthe water ran all the way down and
came out of a nail hole ora screw hole in the sheet rock.
Yeah, I've been there too,were a leak in a ceiling and it
wasn't the source of the leak wasnowhere near where it was manifesting itself on

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my ceiling. Yeah, that's yeah, So cutting ceiling open is really you
gotta see. I always say yougot to re create and see where that
water is actually coming from before youcan, you know, make a diagnosis
on a repair. Do you guys, James, do you guys do annuale

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spections? We do, Okay,we go through the whole house, check
fixtures, make sure the fixtures areoperating properly, make sure there's no drips
leaks. We go under the home, check the piping system, the drain
system, make sure it's hung properly. Will check water pressure in the home,
things of that nature. Things thatin some inspections as far as new

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home purchases and sales aren't checked.I don't believe they check water pressure and
I have never seen that inspection forhim now now as you mentioned it,
Yeah, so, and that couldbe a cause of premature failure of fixtures,
running toilets, leaking facetsitture pressure istoo high. I think we've talked
about that in the past, Butyeah, I don't think that's something that's
that's checked. We could also docamera inspections of sewer lines. I've had

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people buy a home, the movein. A month later, they're sewer
line stopped up. Come to findout they got a root infestation in their
sewer line and they have to spendanother you know, three four thousand dollars
depending on those circumstances after they justpurchased a house to replace the sewer line.
Probably a crepe murder great Merdlesy creatcreat ker. Yeah, they're definitely

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uh ones that U and to findtheir way into super lines, that's for
sure. Those those roots systems moveout pretty good ways. Yeah, I'm
glad we brought that up because typically, you know, we don't think about
calling on plumber till we have aproblem. Why not call it plumber before
you have a problem. Oh yeah, yeah, that's a especially if you
know, I would almost suggest ifyou're purchasing the house to do a separate

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inspection on the plumbing system so wecan come in and say, hey,
you know this this is a potentialissue. May you know, may want
to have it address before you purchase, or just know that once you get
it, this is something you're gonnawant to take care of in the near
future. James car Well, FreedomPlumbing, Thank you was always my friend.

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Always great to talk to you,and folks, if you need to
get plumber happening to no one,you call James. How can how folks
reach you, buddy? They cangive us a call eight O three four
four seven zero four seven one orvisit our website at Freedom dash Plumbing dot
com. Forget the dash. Theguy's riding around down on the bigger right,
red white and blue trucks. Allright, James, thanks so much,
buddy, have a great weekend.Yes or Gary YouTube, thank you.

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I'm James Carwell, local owner andoperator of Freedom Plumbing right here in
the Midlands. After working as aplumber for nearly a decade, I decided
to open my own business, andFreedom Plumbing was born because of my love
for this country and the great respectI have for the men and women of
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What sets us apart from other companiesis our customer service. We have a

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thank you so much for carbons oftime out on your Saturday morning to join
us. Appreciate that Terry nation nowjoining us from Nationville as a good morning,
my friend, good morning. It'sgreat to be here again, hey
man, Just wonderful to have youwith us here. Another game COP football
say our best game COT coverage fourthirty this afternoon right over there on Bluff
Fu Road, right in the shadowsof Williams Bryce Stadium. Terry, we

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have talked now for a while andyou know again as a as a remodeling
outfit, Nation Builders is well,y'all just go about doing things a little
differently. And we talked to acouple of weeks ago about protecting yourself as
the consumer because quite honestly, Iguess anybody could you know, grab a

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pickup truck and put a magnetic signon side and say they're a contractor.
I mean a certain license you're supposedto have it all. Yeah, But
you know, when you're working insideof a house, you can get by
with a lot of things. Youknow, the the inspector don't know anything.
You don't put signs in the yards, so yeah, you can get
by with a lot of things.And there's a lot of guys doing it

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now to day. You mentioned that. I mean, when does it require
that you have a permit for ajob being done? Is the size of
the job at dollar amount, what'sbeing worked on? I mean, what's
what's or that very municipality municipal thatit varies, and so you know,
some folks it's just structural work.So if you're getting in and go and
do some structural things, you needto go get a permit. Some municipalities

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require you to go get one ifyou're doing painting, so it very you
know, some of them, Iguess just needs some revenue. So everything
has to be permitted. So yetit depends on where you are. And
I suppose in a weird kind ofway, I mean by having to have
that permit is it's kind of astep to ensure that it's a respectable,
legitimate person that's doing the work rightexactly. And I tell you what I

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found recently is a lot of contractorsor if you want to call them contractors,
are having the homeowners go and pullpermits for them. So, you
know, speaking of red flags,there's a huge red leg if you're looking
to hire someone and and that's whatthey say, well, we need you
to pull your own permit and we'llcome in and do the work. They

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don't want to be caught dead orto county off exactly, right, yeah,
right, well, okay, soI've always been curious about that because
it seems like sometimes you see peoplewith a permit and sometimes you don't.
That's right. Yeah, looking wedo jobs it's unpermitted. But there there.
Again, it depends on where youare and what you're doing. Okay.
Now, so again the bread andbutter of your business when it comes

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to any remodeling business, is goingto be in basically two areas of home.
Yes, you do more what doyou do most of bathrooms or a
kitchen? Ah, we probably domore bathrooms just because it you know,
it don't take quite as long.So and it's a little more, it's
not as expensive. Well, dependingon the level you want to go with,
depending on the level and the sizeof the bathroom. Yeah, you

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could get a you know, there'ssome large master bathrooms out there. We're
getting ready to start one that's youknow, eighty and oh, which kind
of blows some people away. Butyou know, you get in a regular
old hall bath which is normally fivefoot wide and nine foot long. Yeah,
and this is a guest bath.Uh what we would get? Yeah,
the guest bath. That's that's aboutthe gold size somebody's putting in eighty

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thousand dollars. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no.
That one is a huge master bath. It is humongous. He's never
been able to put that much cashinto a guest bath. Old god,
we'll just out of curiosity for eightythousand dollars, what do you get?
Oh my goodness, you know thisis this guy has a shower that's uh,

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just the shower is nine foot byseven foot, so you know,
he's got a sixty something square footshower. He's got a big jacuzzi tub,
he's got his vanity's fourteen foot long. So you know, there's just
a lot that goes into all ofthat. So doubt you know signalings or

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ten foot tall in there, soyou know, just the amount of space
and his his selections, you knowyou can and that all depends on your
selections. And he, of coursethat's a high end house and he's got
a high end selections, so yougot high end money. Yeah, so
why not? Right, that's right, And that brings us to kitchens.
Yeah, typically, if you're goingto remodel something in the house, and

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you decided it's going to be thekitchen. That's where you gonna lay out
usually the most amount of money,right for sure. Yeah, because there's
just so much in a kitchen thatyou don't think of until we pull that
proposal out and everything is itemized listed, you go, wow, you never
think there's that much in a kitchen, but there is. Okay, such

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ass Well, you're gonna build thecabinets and then you not that this costs
any more any more money either way, but you gotta paint them, and
then you got to pick that hardware. Well, then you got to start
deciding on your drawer glides. Imean just the drawers in the kitchendes.
There is there's soft close, there'sstandard drawer glads, there's you know,
three or four options there, andthen you know, then there's the door,

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the hardware for the doors. Doyou want concealed are you gonna have
uh not concealed hinges? And thensoft clothes and so it just just carries
on and on. You know,crown molding, do you just do a
one piece or do you go indo a two piece? The style of
the cabinet is endless. So youknow, when you want to start choosing

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what type of door you want,you know, the majority of people these
days the shakers in but there's stillyou know, a hundred different selections just
for a door. And then thenhere comes to countertops. So right,
so you know, you go fromanywhere from thirty dollars a square foot to

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you know, we're getting ready todo one to one hundred and seventy five
dollars a square foot. So andthen floors, it's just on and on
and on. Well, I guessit's it's like I guess, if you
think about it, it has alot in common with some other rooms of
the house. The floors, youknow, they getting the trim things along

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along that line. But then there'sall this other stuff you're you're having to
add yet, Oh my goodness.You know a lot of folks are wanting
to pull outs in their based cabinetsthese days. So do you do all
drawers or do you do doors withpullouts inside of the doors, there's just
uh, sometimes I look at thecustomers, it's almost like they're overwhelmed because

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they have thought of all these things. You know, pull out trash cans
just spice racks and hand dividers andyou know it all, it all adds.
That's right. Every time you decideto do something above the standard,
which would be a regular based cabinet, open up the doors and they're space

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in there. Yeah, yeah,you're spending money. Yeah, and typically
I think, correct me if I'mwrong, but the the high dollar item
in any kitchen is going to bethe cabinets. Your cabinets, your countertops,
you know, your backsplash in itupon you know, like we had
page in here a few weeks agowhen she loves to match your backsplash with

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the countertop, so you know,you get a solid surface backsplash. You
know, that square footage price justkeeps on and on, or maybe you
want to offer the waterfall and yeah, that's people doing that these days.
And as we've talked about with theguys from from Lifetime, and they'll be
joining us here in the next segmentby the way. Well so, but

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even the cabinets themselves, yeah,I don't. I'm guessing not too many
people are doing a kitchen remodel andjust putting in off the right cabinets somewhere.
We don't do many, you know, we've done a couple. We
are a dealer for some box cabinetsthat you call them, and there's some

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nice ones out there, but inorder to make those work, you use
a lot of filler pieces to makethe measurements work out because you're just buying
a stock cabinet. So when youwalk in there and you start seeing big
spaces between doors and cabinets, alot of folks don't notice that, but
of course that's one of the firstthings we notice. So we like to
build the cabinets where everything flows.You don't have those gaps. Everything fits

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to measurements, so you know it'sreally a custom build. So you start
racking up money there when it comesto cabinets for sure. Now I'm also
guessing that for most folks when theyremodel the kitchen and you get all this
new stuff going in. You gotnew cabinets, new countertops, this is

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new, that's new flooring. Probablyyou're probably going to not just leave your
old appliances in it. You know, from time to time, the way
it'll go we is, hey,we're going to keep this, and then
we want everything to match it.So you go searching for whatever. A
refrigerator dishwasher, whatever they're keeping,find that manufacturer and have everything that matches,

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because even stainless steel from one manufacturerto the next don't really match.
So you want all that to blend. So yeah, they're they're into buying
new appliances. So excuse me,Oh they want me to extend my car

(35:27):
warranty and take that call seat.How yeah, I'll be right back where
were we? Oh, yes,the appliance and so yeah, you're gotta
be doing that too. Yes,And now, well you've got a beautiful
new kitchen being built for you.You don't want to keep the same most
stuff you got, and you maywell be inclined to even upgrade more than

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you otherwise would have. Right,And a lot of times that starts that
whole remodel process. Some people lookback and go, you know, I
want to get new appliances. Butthen that's it gets the brain churn in
and going, hey, you know, if I will do this, why
don't we just do this too?And so, maybe more so than any
other remodeling project in a home,the one that just puts the homeowner out

(36:15):
of business for a while, there'sgoing to be a kitchen, it's going
to be a kitchen falls around thekitchen. Yeah, everything revolves around the
kitchen. There's a ton of atime that it takes for selections to get
even to get to the day you'regoing to start construction. The decisions that
have to be made sometimes get alittle overwhelming, so we say, hey,

(36:37):
step back, catch a breath,you know, just kind of get
some ideas on what you want,and you know, revisit some things and
move on to other things. Sometimesand not so much a problem right now,
but I mean we have there fora couple of years supply chain issues,
right, yeah, and so Iwould imagine that your preferred method doing
things. Let's wait, we goteverything before we take your offline. Absolutely,

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yes, yes, So our veryfirst thing is when we after contract
is we buy out the job everything. So there's nothing that's gonna you know,
kick us in the middle of aproject that's gonna set us back.
I know there's no average kitchen remodel, but I mean, what's the time
frame for your standard kind of kitchenremodel. Is that it's gonna say,

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well, everything's in all right,we're coming over Monday, We're starting the
process. You never know what's gonnahappen. I mean, you can have
hiccups, you can have things popup and all that, but I mean,
how much time should a homeowner beexpecting to be without the use of
that kitchen? Okay, so,and that's a good question. But one
thing you have to think about ifwhen it's a custom kitchen, you know,
we're working in the shop probably threeto four weeks before we ever show

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up to the job. So we'rebuilding everything's ray, So we're building the
cabinets, where getting the doors,We're getting everything. So there's there could
be up to a month, butlet's just say three to four weeks before
we go start demo. Typically sixweeks or so. Yeah, depending on
the how intricate the kitchen could be. Right, Well, we all want

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it done right, yeah, hastemakes waste on all say, all right,
well, uh find out take alook around. You see what you
look. And more people are sayingwith with home prices and interest rates what
they are right now, more peopleare often just stay where they're just saying,
staying where they're at. Call theseguys, it's nation Builders, Terry.

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three point five FM and five sixtya m w v o C. I'm
trying to pace myself here because thingsgetting ready to get really crazy up in
here. It's almost it's Marcus Greenwelland Casey Alexandra lifetime caps in Countertops,
Columbia. Hi, y'all man,they're doing great. I'm doing all right,
man, I'm doing pretty good.I'm feeling it. Man. We've

(40:44):
got we've we've had a couple ofgood weeks since Labor Days. You know,
it's uh, gotten back in thegroup with the kids back to school
and through the holiday, getting inthe fall, everything starting to kind of
come together and uh you these projectsthat people been talking about all summer,
they're finally bringing me checks. That'sthanks bring Yeah, it's like, hey,

(41:07):
you know, you know, forme, it's like, you know,
has this person coming or not?I think I keep telling Marius,
you know, yes, some andso said that they're ready to go,
you know, and but that's youknow, being in sales on my life,
I kind of yeah, you know, you never you really know,
and but lately it's so, youknow, finally people are committing to some
of these projects. Yeah, especiallyin the summer, is a bad time,

(41:29):
trying to get those last minute youknow things done and get out of
town and all that. Oh yeah, I mean and the past. Everybody's
getting ready for Thanksgiving now Halloween.Yeah, yeah, Thanksgiving and finishing up
getting you know these some of theseoutdoor kitchens and pools and yeah, I

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mean we we get stick with poolweather around here in South Carolina. Football
absolutely, Yeah. You know I'veset in a pool on March football game
before. Well, well we wewe're working on one right now. That
would be a great one we wantto talk about for a business morning,
Okay. We we talk about countertopsfor kitchens and for bathroom vanities. We

(42:12):
even talk about outdoor kitchens. Y'all. Did a fireplace toper at our place
a couple of years ago. Imean answer around we do surrounds and surrounds,
but it's not limited to things likethat. I mean, you've got
some pretty unique things you're working onright now you want to tell us about.
Yeah, we've got well, uh, the we've done. We've already

(42:32):
done one piece and we've got acouple other pieces of the work for spear
Lake Maury, right, yeah,yeah, and with that we did some
uh we worked with Michael Wincott Boulderand Gravy and do some uh you know
logo on that too. That's prettycool. We can he can do he

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can engrave on any surface and sothat you know, so, hey,
if you want your pool or outdoorbar wherever you're watching football to have your
favorite team games. So I don'tknow what the licensing is on that,
but yeah, okay, but alongthe spirit of Lake Murray, we put

(43:15):
our logo on that little piece wedonated for Rick kraut Tyler Ryan Steve Price
over there, director of Cruise ActivitiesLake. Maybe he'll give you the forecast
to Captain. Yeah, he's he'svery involved about Yeah. I didn't even
know. I was like, man, that's awesome. I didn't know he

(43:37):
had a captain's license. Yes,that's incredible. Yeah. Yeah, so
yeah, so we partnered up withthem and we've got some piece and now
we're gonna do this huge bar forhim. So yeah, they're talking about
big pieces. Man. We've youknow, we were talking a couple weeks
ago about you know, the localcourthouse that we did. It was a
you know twenty three foot floating desk. Yeah. Now we've got a you

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know, twenty foot long bar andyeah, what what's ready for pictures too?
So I can go over the ice? Yeah? What stone are you
using for that? This? Thisone, well that was some marble on
on the last one. This wasgonna this is gonna be some quarts,
which is good because you know,we're getting some courts now that uh,

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you know, over eleven feet Imean one hundred and thirty nine hundred and
forty inches long and on the slab. You know, let me ask you
about that, because typically when youget the natural stone, it comes pre
cut to a certain slab size,right, is that correct? I mean
yeah, pretty much an industry standardten feet is what you're gonna get six

(44:45):
give or take. But with courts, since it's man made, can use
is it the same thing or canthey like you're limited by really transp some
of some manufacturing process you're limited by, but really just transportations. What is
the mainlanditae getting it off the truck, yeah, because it gets kind of
heavy. Yeah, boy, andthe height you got to worry about getting

(45:07):
in the house. The container sizeif they're shipping up by container. So
all that I have seen these trucksover an election accounty rolling that Michigan plant
with those tires ye that are arebigger than three story building. Yeah yeah,
yeah. But as far as massand I have heard and I have

(45:30):
for heard stories especially out you knowand in Colorado. I lit up in
the northeast of doing some pieces thatwere custom oversized pieces, uh that they
had to have special transport for andthings they had their UFO with their sound
vibrations show though. Yeah. Butyeah, so there are I mean,

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you know, uh, the youknow, thankfully we don't get into that
custom you know, that's you know, if I can find it, if
you want to do it, comecome at me. I'll find it.
I'll put it down. But wayto do it, it's you know,
and I know I got the logisticssilk up students to get it done.
But yeah, it's you know,the ones we're a limitary as far as

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mass production are about one hundred andforty inches. Okay, So so you're
doing this, uh bar deck onthe spirit of lay Murray? What else
going on? Well? At thatpool were starting earlier that Uh, it
was awesome pool in the lake.It's a swim up bar. Uh that

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we're doing this beautiful dolomite marble.Uh you firm we talking about super super
white, and super white is actuallygray marble. It's it's a dolomite hard
marble pool cascade three different levels downinto where it's got that what do they
call when you look over into thelake and you seein Yeah, so inffinities
down three levels from the hot tubdown to the middle section, down to

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the bottom section where you actually dothe swimming and all that. It's unbelievable.
All I had was like a pool. The pool's got an island in
the middle of it. Okay,that's how big it is. They said
it was the most expensive pool onLake Murray. It sounds like it might
be. Yeah, that's what theguy told me. Is that island in
the middle of the pool inhabited.Yeah, it's got it's got where you

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two lounge chairs, where it's gotrocks and everything. I mean in grass.
I'm like, well, it's gotlike a little little thing you can
walk over to it. And Iswear it's like a bridge, you know,
you could swim under it. Allthat, and they got a lazy
river Margaritaville. Right, Yeah,they got a poolhouse for the mother in
law and all that, and you'redoing a marble curved bar top. By

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the size of this room, whichis not a small room. Yeah,
it took a whole flab to dothe bar top and it's only twenty inches
wide. Yeah, it's curved,very double. Again, a good luck
walking into your local big box storeand saying, yeah, I want to
countertop from my pool bar. Yeahright, yeah, this is where you

(48:09):
need to come for that. Yeah. Yeah, lifetime cabinets countertops. Now,
before we wrap up things and getout of here this morning with the
Home Improvement Show of the Midlands,you know you've got something running for what
the rest of the month, sofor another week or so. We talk
about the big pieces of small piecestoo. Uh so if you need just

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a small piece, uh he reallythis this sale is geared towards something that
you might pick up or want likecash and carry we call it. But
it does have to be cash,check, card, whatever. But a
piece that you're gonna come in orderand then you're gonna come back and pick
up a remnant. But you know, if you don't need install and don't

(48:53):
need delivery. We're waving the cutfee. Usually we still charge a fee
to cut the size and polish theedges. We'll do whatever polishing, whatever
cutting to size U with, youknow, within reason. You know,
we're not going to take a wholeslab and cut it down to the cutting
board, but we will take asmall piece and cut it, you know,

(49:15):
small cutting board out. I've gottenonly charging for the square footage,
so no cutting, no polish,just come in pay for the square footage.
So this is something you wanted toput on top of a maybe a
small table and a table yep,you know coffee table time. Yeah,
yep, if you got a pieceto go. My friend of mine was

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tombow man, I got this pieceoutside, I can do this and that's
fourteen inches by said, yep,got it? Or you know remember the
tree stump? Yeah, I wasgetting ready to mention the tree stump.
Have I still have that blue pearlif you need a little seat or a
little top for a tree stun.You know, I saw a friend of
mine post last night. Buddy hadjust cut down on the tree, hadn't

(49:58):
finished up doing the stump grinding.Everybody and the cat had taken up residence
on top of the tree up andlike it was just perched up there.
We just you know, like guardingthe whole property. Cat. It's not
for dogs. But uh yeah,if you if you need a marble top
for your cat on your tree stump, and we've got a marble perch there
you go. All right, Soagain we're talking about runa sized stuff.

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Yeh. Normally there was Normally there'dbe a fee for cutting it, doing
it, doing the edge and polishing. But you're waving that and that's for
the rest of this month. Yes, yeah, two more weeks almost almost,
we can ask can al. Yeah, so grab it and go.

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Yeah, come up this weekend,listen today, come up putting the order
because we will have to you know, the guys have to still cut it
and polish the edges and stuff.Yeah sure, yeah, I mean,
I mean it's not it's not always. It's not like the same day thing
as you know, planning to comeback a couple of days later. Yeah,
yeah, put the order in.Come back. Do you need to
take long? But you need togo out to the chapeing lot to chape
a lot for that. Yeah,get that, because I've got the bone

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yard. What I call my boneyards. You're gonna want to pot up
a piece, you gonna want topick the piece, thousands of remnants.
We're going to cut to your measurementson that. So yeah, yeah,
yeah, I'm not going to gothat you want because we're not. It's
got to be exact. Yeah,that how you want it, you don't
measure it, right, that's onyou, right, Yeah, Well that's

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what we're waving the fee. Youknow, he's not having to go out
to measure and we're not going outon install you know. So we're just
hey, you need a remnant,We've got him, come get it.
Just pay for the square footage onefifty way. You don't have to do
a mini minimum charge and all that, right, sure, one fifty three
Chaping road out and raven for thatroad. Fernandina Road. Comes see me,

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comes see me today your Ferndan Roadlocation forty twenty Fernandina. Everybody greens
and Costco Ye go to Costco,SAMs or whatever we've got. We've got
some slabs out there in the park, a lot some slabs, and back
behind me and in the little warehousearea back got some courts over there.
Look at some white courts. Itis really pretty. It's real hot.
Brice is coming down on the court, you told us, Yeah, yeah,

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oh yeah, some great deals oncourts, trains, all right.
It is a lifetime cabinets and countertopsfour years in a row, Best Straight
Readers Poll. Yeah, we wouldlove to help you and get some more
votes, all right. And againthe folks just want to reach out to
you the website or the Facebook pageor the old telephone and talk to this
guy over here, markus himself andthe call that number. I'm here,

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it that way too. Got aFacebook? Yeah, well I guess that.
Guess what you said? You saiddifferent? Yeah, I'll get you

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straight there. You gotta do alittle searching with his method. Oh I
say, I didn't even know that. Sorry, I'm just the owner out
of time, so your words thefinal one out of time. Y'all have
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