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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
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Speaker 3 (00:10):
Formation and this is wrong.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
This is Columbia's Morning News with Gary David and Christopher
Thompson on one O three point five FM and five
sixty AM w VOC.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
It is sixteen minutes after six o'clock in morning gets, Wednesday,
November the nineteenth. Good to have you in, Gary David,
that's me. Christopher Thompson, that's him.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
I am him. Oh, bruh, I'm good. How about you?
I'm well good.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Well. This temperat about eighty we are on the cusp
of a record high for November nineteenth. The record high
was eighty one degrees.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
That's incredible.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
It's just nuts, isn't it. And it I don't know.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
If y'all have cut off yet. We cut off our
thermostat and just let it go for a while. Yeah,
no heat, no air, yeah, and the house won't catch
up for a while. So yesterday I had to sit
outside to eat lunch. It was so cold in our house. Yes, yeah,
ours have been that way too. Yeah, And it was
comfortable outside, but you know, it takes a little while

(01:19):
for the temperatures to even out inside and outside.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
No it's been fantastic. Yeah, all right, Well, we got
a few things to get into here today, don't we
The rundown, the big stories, the hot topics for this
November nineteenth morning. Well we'll start here at home. We're
up run off elections wrapping up yesterday. A turnout as expected, well,

(01:43):
incredibly low. It's it really is amazing how times like these,
especially in small towns, how few votes make a difference. Right,
But again a runoff you expect that, right. City of
Columbia Council elections now the slatest full once again. Peter

(02:04):
Brown an easy winner. Well I say, well, yeah he
got it was fifty four to forty five percent. Now
not votes total. They maybe it could have been not
a whole lot more than that, you know. So Peter Brown,
who had been supported and advertisements by the mayor, winning
there to keep his seat, but add bustles loses in

(02:29):
the at large race. Sam Johnson, a Gatt former chief
of staff right to Mayor Benjamin Yeah, a winner there yesterday,
getting fifty six percent of the vote. There were more
than fifty seven hundred ballots cast in that race. So
that's that's not bad for a you know, for a
runoff election and an off year election, and.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
That was probably the most high profile just because of
I mean you had two known candidates, including an incumbent
who wound up losing.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Right right, so some new blood on Columbia City Council
coming up. Batesburg. Leesville has got themselves a new mayor,
David Bockknight winning the top spot current town councilman, and
that runoff over a fellow council member, Stephen Kine. Sixty
three thirty six was that final percentage wise? Now I

(03:19):
talk about number of votes, Gilbert, this was the situation
where you know, this was the race that nobody wanted
to be in, right, Well, turns out a write in
candidate wins the council run off race. Town Councilman Patrick
Carson re elected although he wasn't running for reelection, right well,

(03:44):
a total of seventy votes were cast. All right, Gilbert's
ball town. I mean it's six hundred people. But still
that was that that that race that nobody was interested in.
So the results in and all of that over the
state House, the committee just aus seeing what would have
been basically a total abortion ban. The only exception would

(04:08):
have been if the mother's life was at risk. This
was one that even wanted to banish I U. D's well.
That did not advance the final vote three to two.
I believe it was to quash. That doesn't mean it's
doa well. Seems like it, but you never know. It
could be brought back in a different form. Four Republican

(04:29):
senators on that panel abstained on the final vote. There
were a couple of amendments to remove the more extreme measures,
but that field to getut of committee yesterday, and I'm
not surprised, and.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
The Democrats were helping with those amendments.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
M Yeh Marvin pindarbas pleading not guilty. The former House
representative lawyer looks like he's going to need a public defender,
putting not guilty to eleven charges, defrauding clients, making settlements
without their knowledge, forging clients signatures on settlement documents. All

(05:06):
the list was long. There's a bill that's going to
be put up in the next session. And in a
subcommittee yesterday, the Medical Affair Subcommittee, they heard more than
an hour of testimony, conflicting at times, on a bill
that would require healthcare providers to give patients of verbal
and written warning before giving them a COVID nineteen shot.

(05:27):
Is this really necessary at this point in time? I
think you think most well, I would, I would tend
to say most people are aware that there could be
side effects, But then again maybe not.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
And I would, oh, warning about the side effects? Yeah, no,
I thought, I thought, here comes the COVID shot. I
thought that you meant that kind of warning, because I
was going to say, what doctor is going to give
you a shot without warning about warning it?

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (05:51):
All right, so it'll only pin. It's just be a
little pin, now, I understand.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yeah, exactly. Every member of our state's delegation voted in
fai yesterday at the House level, at the Senate level
to release the Epstein files. So yesterday was a well,
I would say, a monumental day, but maybe maybe not.
We'll find out, I guess. But all consider this. When

(06:17):
is the last time that every member of Congress but
won voted for something. Yeah, that's what happened yesterday. Just
one House member voting though. That was Clay Higgins, a
Republican from Louisiana. He explained why that was. It really
had nothing to do with politics at all. He says

(06:37):
it was about again, you know, feeding the hungry media
all these slations details and that somebody, somebody's going to
get hurt by it. That was his reasoning for it.
But everybody else voted to release these files. Now it
sits on the president's desk. Well, well, I'll ask you
another question. When's the last time our government held onto

(06:59):
any information at all for this long? Right?

Speaker 3 (07:03):
And the gist of it didn't leak out?

Speaker 1 (07:05):
That's kind of crazy, isn't it. Yeah?

Speaker 3 (07:07):
So I you know again, I have a feeling this
is going to be underwhelming.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
I get that feeling too, because if there was anything
juicy in there, we probably have already heard it, although
we're hearing reasons why we hadn't heard it by now.
And we'll talk about all this coming up a little
bit later on. We'll see Marjorie Taylor Green by the way,
questioning whether or not, Yeah, the DOJ will release the
full documents, and she's vowing to read all the names

(07:36):
on the House floor. Will it be national security that
blocks some of this info?

Speaker 1 (07:42):
All right? We'll get into that on a couple of occasions.
This morning. Up in Charlotte, the Border Patrol and Ice
continuing their patrols and rounding up people who really shouldn't
be walking the streets. Charlotte School District numbers plummeting about
twenty one percent of the student population absent on money day.
What does that tell you, that be What does that

(08:04):
tell you that biddy kids don't show up for class?
Wonder why, all right, did the Republicans in Texas at
the behest of Trump just committee potentially mortal error the
redrawing of the congressional maps in Texas. Again, this is
something Trump wanted. A federal judge nominated to the bench

(08:26):
by Trump, by the way, yesterday blocking Texas from using
those maps. All right, so judge says, no, you can't
use those. Do you think they'll find a judge anywhere
in California to tell Gavin Newsom he can't use his
not going to happen. This is a move that might

(08:47):
cost the Republicans upwards of some six seats in the
House of Representatives. Trump administration taking a major step towards
dismantling the Education Department and boy a group of Democrat
lawmakers with military and intelligence backgrounds put out a video
yesterday urging military members to refuse what they called illegal orders.

(09:14):
Think about this, Democrats with military backgrounds telling current troops
to defy orders orders they claim to be unlawful. Wow,
all right, friends, we'll talk about that. We'll talk about
more coming up on this. It is the Wednesday, November
nineteenth edition of Columbia's Morning News. Always good to have

(09:36):
you here. Celebrities who know not a darn thing other
than you know, singing and.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
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Speaker 1 (10:00):
It's good to have you here, Wednesday morning, November nineteenth. Oh,
I'm gonna try to pronounce the name of this town
till you don't take a shot.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
This'll me spell it for you. Ut Q I A
gv IK No you lost me at Q Yeah right, yeah,
I have to see it. I can't a quievic. I'm
going with that quievic all Alaska? Okay, that one I
got all right.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
As of yesterday, the sun went down and they won't
see it again until January twenty second. Let's polar night
time in the Arctic Circle, Yags. There's like five thousand
people that live there. Why sixty four days without sunlight.

(10:48):
Apparently they get like an hour or two of what
we might see here, like pre dawn, and then that's it,
total darkness for sixty four days. Of course, then they
have that other the time of the year when they
get nothing but sunshine for that. How does your body
react to that? That's crazy? Okay, that's under way, the
polar night Kievik. Look at the big brain on top. No,

(11:13):
I'm looking You used the pronunciation guy, Yeah, yeah, Kievik. Yeah,
all right, we'll go to the Kievik. Okay, Okay, Now,
while we here, have a deal and we hope it
works out as planned to restart construction over in Jenkinsville.

(11:35):
Remember we're doing it's a private company, I supposedly no
no taxpayer dollars included. But at the national federal level,
we're going to be putting some money into this. The
Trump administration announcing yesterday one billion dollar loan to a
Baltimore company to restart a nuclear reactor at three Mile Island. Uh,

(12:00):
we've known this was was going to happen there was talk.
Wasn't there talk one time about was it Microsoft? Uh,
there was discussions they might restart this thing, you know
with their Microsoft or Google or one of those, you know,
to to power their their their their AI data farms.

(12:24):
But this will be a billion dollar loan to get
this thing restarted to well, they say it has the
potential to to to better secure the mid Atlantic grid
and empowers many these eight hundred thousand homes. We know
we made a big mistake and maybe this is where
it started. Back in nineteen seventy nine when that that

(12:46):
that little accident at Three Mile Islands. Uh, we we
kind of we shied away from this sort of uh
you know, power generation. Remember when we were uh attempting
to build a second reactor at Jenkinsville at that point

(13:06):
in time, it was that one that was the one
over across the border in Georgia that was being worked on,
and that was it. That was it. I think we
made a big mistake. We freaked out after Three Mile
Island and we just pretty much got out of the
nuclear generation business. And I think we're regretting it now.

(13:30):
That reactor Unit two has been offline since March of
nineteen seventy nine. They kept the other reactor running until
about fifteen years ago. Ten fifteen years ago they shut
it down then, citing primarily economic reasons. Yeah. Yeah, that

(13:53):
deal is with Microsoft. Yeah, the company building it, Constellation Energy,
and they hope again to use the site to future
in the future to power AI data centers. Well, what
about the eight hundred thousand households are talking about. Let's
hope it's more than just for Microsoft and that deal
right there. Now, on Wall Street, stocks fell again yesterday. Now,

(14:17):
but here's here's here's the problem. It's tech shares speaking
of artificial intelligence. There are concerns that we're in a
bubble situation here, concerns about the valuations of artificial intelligence
related socks. The Dow lost almost five hundred points yesterday. Okay,

(14:41):
percentage wise, that's a little over one percent down. The
S and P lost for the fourth straight session. That's
the first time that's happened since August. Watched today and
last I looked. I think Dow futures were up slightly,
But earnings for video are coming out and well, analysts

(15:10):
are thinking that it might not be good. We could
see a bad day on Wall Street today. If in
Video's earnings don't pan out that, what's the valuation that company?
Like five trillion dollars something crazy like that?

Speaker 3 (15:29):
Amazing like that.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yeah, a lot of what we're seeing even and we're
not just talking that tech talks, but the broader markets
in general, you know, have been riding high. We're just
about a week ago talking about you know, we that
far away from Dow fifty thousand. Well now it's more
like Dow forty six thousand. But this has the potential

(15:50):
to well. The CEO of Google, in an interview with
the BBC that while the growth of AI investment has
been an extraordinary moment, he said what he could called us,
there's some irrationality in the current AI boom, and you

(16:16):
know a lot of people are starting to talk now
about you know, another tech bubble here and if and
when it pops, he thinks everybody's going to be affected,
saying I think no company is going to be immune
in including us, referring to Google. Of course, we get

(16:39):
to these places every now and then, and I don't
know what the downside would be. Who is it that
can't think of who it is right now? Incredibly rich
person not named Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos just shortened
in Video sold off incredibly large amounts of shares in Nvidia,

(17:06):
a harbinger of things to come. I will see, But
I just the important point here is is that this, yeah,
if this tech bubble bursts, it's not just the tech stocks,
it's not just the Nvidia's, it's not just the AI
related stocks. They're gonna be taking a hit from Google's

(17:27):
on CEO. Nobody's going to be immune to what happens.
I don't quite Yeah, often, you know, it seems like
traders on Wall Street are kind of like, you know,
football fans. Sometimes you jump on a bandwagon. You're all

(17:50):
excited before the season starts, and then you turn around
and you're, you know, three and seven, and everybody's jumped
off the bandwagon. Okay, that's fine in college football and all,
but now you're talking about people's iras four oh one k's.
I hate to say them. I have a real good
feeling about this one. We'll see, we'll see. But well,

(18:12):
let's start today by watching what happens within Video earnings.
It could be a volat all day. At the corner
of Wall and Brode.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
You're listening to Columbia's morning news on one oh three
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here's Gary David and Christopher.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Tomas sixteen after seven. Good morning, Good to have you
long for Wednesday? Remember the nineteen a week and a
day away from Thanksgiving Day? All ready you get all
the all the necessary items? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (18:49):
Not even close?

Speaker 1 (18:50):
Really? No?

Speaker 3 (18:50):
Oh, come on, man, we've got a little waste to go.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
Yeah. Well, I'm gonna ask you that question again next Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
Okay, I may have the same answer.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
You may be Chinese for Thanksgiving? Did you look, mister Thompson?
Were you on the email list for Jamie Harrison and
his fledgling podcast? No, I was.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
Did I miss out on that?

Speaker 1 (19:12):
I don't know, But when he first launched that thing
a couple months ago, I was getting emails all the
time about it and I didn't even unsubscribe. They just
stopped coming. And maybe this is why I again. Jamie Harrison,
who lost spectacularly after spending gobs of money to Lindsey

(19:32):
Graham a couple of years ago, then for his efforts,
was awarded the position of the chair of the Democrat
National Committee, in which again he squandered gobs of money
in losing efforts. I don't know if he got anybody
to invest. Listen, you can do a podcast for basically nothing.

(19:54):
But why am I guessing that Jamie probably got a
lot of money out of somebody to do a podcast.
It's called at Our Table Jamie Harrison. An episode that
posted yesterday featured Harrison and a thirteen year old that

(20:14):
he knows. Okay, kid who lives down the street. Yeah right.
He let the thirteen year old interview him to talk
about the government shutdown, which of course ended last week. Actually,
I think this came out last Tuesday. Well, the posted

(20:36):
it at like three o'clock, yeah, three in the morning
last Tuesday, and as of later on that day, it
had drawn a whopping twelve views on YouTube.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
Oh yeah, I hope you didn't invest in that. Oh
DoD Appairly he's mailing it in so he doesn't care anyway, right.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Exactly, if you get people to keep giving you money
for losing costs, why not keep doing it?

Speaker 3 (21:04):
All right?

Speaker 1 (21:05):
For the record, of those twelve people that watched, I
was not one of them. All right, runoff races yesterday,
I think, well there was I don't know it was
it a surprise or not that add Bustles lost in
her race for the at large council seat for the
City of Columbia to to Sam Johnson.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
Well, Sam Johnson had more votes than she did in
the that's true, he did the election primary.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah, so so yeah, maybe not a surprise. But Johnson,
the former chief of staff of Mayor Steve Benjamin, a
newcomer to running four political office himself, picked up fifty
six percent of the vote, so he he's the winner
in the at large city council race.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
The only news that came out of that race really
with the you know, the two going back and forth
about whether his supporters were posting negative comments on her site.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Mm hm.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
She didn't excuse him directly of being involved, but.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Didn't she say he should be, you know, taking some
action with his supporters not to be doing that sort
of thing.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
And then of course there were questions about him and
whether you know, he's got too many ties to well, yeah,
businesses or business that does city business.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
But they didn't seem to bother voters as they have
voted him in that large seat. No surprise here that
Peter Brown has been re elected as the District four representative.
He easily was the was the front runner a couple
of weeks ago, well close with it, just didn't quite

(22:39):
go over that to fifty percent margin. So he will
return for another term.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
I would think the mayor's endorsement would be pretty big
for any city race. Yeah, right, and for any of
these incumbents. I mean, Bustle's obviously lost. But I will
say this. You know, we had our shoe of skepticism
about Finley Park going into it, but I have heard
nothing but rave reviews about the park since it opened

(23:09):
last week.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
The same thing for me.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Yeah, so you know, that was largely a city council project.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Let's just hope that it stays out.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
Yeah, that's that's the tough part now. But I mean
it seems like they've put the pieces into place to
keep it. They're certainly spending the money to keep it
that way.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
M H.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
Gilbert an election where nobody filed a run wound up
re electing a councilman, Patrick Carson re elected. He hadn't
filed to run for reelection. Nobody did, so it was

(23:49):
a it was a write in race and it was
determined by just a few people. He got thirty votes,
Keith pal got eleven. All right. Not a thriving metropolis
is Gilbert. But you know, the town population, at least
for now, is less than six hundred. That's not going

(24:10):
to stay that way. But you know, a few of
the six hundred people and only forty one actually voted,
so a lot of people can't complain they don't like
the results, that's for sure. Now we may spend a
little more time later on talking about this, but this

(24:31):
almost total abortion ban that was being debated in a
synth committee was not going to make it out of
that committee. This was one that would only allow exception
if the mother's life was in danger. That was it.
No exception for race, for rape, no exception exception for incest.

(24:57):
This was one that would have potentially sent a woman
who got an abortion, or anyone who helped her get
an abortion, to prison for upwards of what thirty years.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
That's a bridge too far for a lot of Republicans.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Oh yeah, and one that also would have banned contraceptor devices. Okay,
so you've got which seems well, okay, anyway, never mind,
you've got pro life groups who are you know, don't
support this bill, and right exactly, this is setting up

(25:36):
this dramatic fight between the Republican factions you know about
who's pro life.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
Well, how can you claim your pro life if you
didn't support this bill and the Democrats are just egging
it on? Oh sure, Yeah, the Democrats on that committee
yesterday there were efforts to moderate the bill with and
I say moderate, I don't mean moderate as in sudden
water down this bill, but it's certain to at least
make it palatable well to most conservatives in the state.

(26:06):
And of course Democrats were voting down every one of
those efforts because they want to see the most radical
version of the bill put up so they can then
point and say, you know, see how whacked out Republicans are.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Yeah. Case in point, Billy Garrett, who's a Republican and
was one of the bill's three sponsors, didn't vote to
advance the bill out of the committee. Yeah, he had
put up several amendments that would have removed the penalties
for a woman who had an abortion, saying that after

(26:36):
much deliberation, he's decided that, he says, from my constituents,
at least we were in a situation where we just
you know, can't do that. So he put up some
amendments to get that stricken. That failed, and again thanks
to the Democrats who said, no, I'll leave it in there,
so he wound up not even voting for it. Yeah,

(26:58):
this is this is a bridge too far for seemingly everybody,
but maybe a handful of people. So I don't think
it's any great surprise it didn't get out a committee.
The only question now is as well they try to
do in some other former fashion, and well, we'll see,
won't be long for the sessions.

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Speaker 1 (27:43):
Hey, good to have you with us at seven point
forty on a Wednesday morning. It's the nineteenth of November
and a week and a day away from Thanksgiving Day.
All right, Trump news and we'll get to the FC
stuff in the eighty'clock hour. I got plenty to say
on that First up, Trump reiterating again yesterday at a
truth social post when it comes to healthcare, Okay, this

(28:06):
is that big old elephant in the room here as
we wind down twenty twenty five, what's going to happen
with the Obamacare enhanced subsidies? Do they stay? Do they go?
Trump is laid out how he would like to see
all this reformed, and he emphasized that again yesterday, writing
in all caps, as he likes to do. The only

(28:28):
healthcare I will support or approve is sending the money
back to the people, with nothing going to the big,
fat rich insurance companies who made trillions and ripped off America.
Long enough.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
Okay, yes, but what's the plan? Explain that, Dona, Well,
I get.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
The plan is for the enhanced subsidies, you'd get money
put into your HSA account. That's the plan. How that
changes is the end product for Americans who are subsidizing
health insurance for other Americans. I don't know that that
changes that dynamic at all. But you know what Trump

(29:12):
is z he's tapping into well the angst that a
lot of people feel when it comes to these big
health insurance companies that they're ripping us off. I mean,
people are mad about not not not to like you know,
Mangione point mad. Don't forget about that, huh. But Trump's
trying to tap into that. And I don't know, I

(29:35):
suppose in a way I have to give this some
some serious consideration, but maybe this is a way to
turn the tide of public opinion against the Democrats who
just want to keep doing what we've been doing, and
that is, you know, these subsidies, this this money is
flowing directly into these big insurance companies. I don't know

(29:56):
that's going to work, but there it is. Anyway. Meanwhile,
the Education Department making more moves, handing off some of
its biggest grant programs to other federal agencies. So we're
not necessarily getting the federal government out of this, but
well we're moving the moving the the shelves around a

(30:17):
little bit here.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
But the goal is eventually to demolish the Education Department,
to put most of the responsibilities in the hands of
the states.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Yeah, which I totally agree with. I think there's there
you know a lot of people just don't even realize
that we have not always had a US Department of Education. Yeah,
I mean, for the greater majority of this country's history.
It's it's been at a state and local level where
these decisions were made, not at the federal level. And
if you look back and you see what's happened to

(30:51):
education in this country since the Feds took it over,
well it ain't been good.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
But there is federal money involved, and yeah, you've got
to make sure that money gets assigned appropriately.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Yeah, so this is just another step. And I had
a big one in in dismantling the Education Department. Now, uh,
you've got a number of Republicans now who are saying
this whole move wasn't smart, utterly foolish, say some Yesterday,

(31:25):
a federal court in Texas blocking Texas from using the
redraw in US House maps. This two to one ruling
panel of federal judges, and I'm pretty sure one of
them at least was a Trump appointee, saying that you

(31:49):
can't do this, that it results in in in harm
to black and Hispanic residence. Yeah, the decision was was
authored by Jeff brown Hees, a Trump nominee from the
first Trump term. The ruling is saying, to be sure,
politics played a role in redrawing the twenty twenty five map. Well, duh,

(32:10):
doesn't it always, but goes on to say it was
much more than just politics, that substantial evidence shows that
Texas racially Jerry manner the twenty twenty five map. Okay,
here's the problem. Uh remember Trump was pushing, pushing Texas

(32:32):
to do this. That opened up that big old can
of worms. I mean a wop Daddy sized can of worms.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
Because California followed suit. He said, all right, we can
match that, and we've got plenty of Democrat seats we
can create.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
And we've got plenty of Democrat judges that will let
us do it. I could be shocked, but I don't
think I will be. You're not going to find a judge,
at least in California to tell Gavin Newsome now, you
can't redraw the And remember, in California, the authority to

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redraw congressional maps was not given to the legislature there.
It was given to a well quote unquote independent commission
that operated separately from politics, again allegedly when it came
to redrawing maps. Well, so what Gavin did was say,
let's let's let's just put up a proposition. Let's just

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ask the people what they.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Think and bypassed that commission.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Bypassed the commission totally, and uh, you know, it's California.
What do you think was going to happen? They said, yeah, sure,
let's do that. So now California and their their defense
if it comes up in a court, of course, it
is going to be that we well, the people spoke,
We asked the people what they wanted to do, and
they said, yeah, let's do this. So I don't foresee

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a court telling telling California know you can't do this.
And there have been other Blue states that have threatened
to do the same thing. Now we got to see
what happens in places like Missouri, what happens up up
the road in North Carolina because they drew new maps
and added an additional Republican seat in each one of

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those states. Will this stand? I'm gonna bet it done.
So what you wind up with now is the very
real possibility that the Democrats are going to pick up
six seats in the House of Representatives six count them.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
The map changes significantly. Yeah, somebody should have saw this coming,
because remember that map guides the presidential election in two
years after that.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Mm hmm, yeah, got cut short again, didn't they Republicans?
And I'm pretty sure there are some who you know,
all along we're saying, no, this is not a good idea.
Let's let's not go down this road. But either they
were either afraid to speak, or they didn't speak up
loud enough, or nobody was paying attention to them.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
This is this is this is this is going.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
To be a problem come twenty twenty six and come
twenty twenty eight. Wow, now Texas is not done. They're
going to appeal this, of course, Ken Paxton the Age
saying they had asked the Supreme Court to reverse this
ruling and allow the map to stand. But here's the

(35:46):
other issue with that. Candidates in Texas only have until
December eighth a file for the upcoming election. So that's
just a couple of weeks away. Unless the Supreme Court
decides to take this up on an expedited basis, well,
this is going to stand. So the potential of six

(36:06):
lost seats at least just from this, Okay, just from this,
the House of Representatives is looming large. Should have seen
this would coming, man, and I know Ralph Norman wants
to he wants the maps redrawn here to do away
with ever the potential ever for any Democrat like James

(36:27):
Cliburn to be sitting in the halls of Congress. Uh,
is there any reason to believe that a redrawn map
like that in South Kinna would not meet the same
faith that one in Texas does?

Speaker 3 (36:42):
Thinking it probably would.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
But that's one of Norman's big, big, big big pushes
here as he seeks the Republican nomination for governor.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
You're listening to Columbia's Morning News on one oh three
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Gary David and Christopher Thompson's.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Approached sixteen after eight. Good morning, good Wednesday morning to
you for November the nineteenth. I am Gary David, he
is Christopher Thompson, and we're happy to have you with
us this morning. Thank you. Big story, of course, the
vote to release the Epstein files. We have you ever
seen a story like this just disappear from the headlines
for weeks and weeks and weeks, almost disappear from the

(37:28):
collective American consciousness, and then burst back onto the scene
like this one did. Of course, this was predicated by
the fact that the House was at a session for
him seven weeks during the shutdown and for a period
of time before that, ostensibly because the House Speaker, Mike
Johnson didn't want this full floor vote to happen to

(37:50):
release the files. And how it just exploded back into
the scene when the House came back, as we knew
it would, and then quickly the tune changed.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
Quickly, quickly, well, Trump changed the tune.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
Yeah, So what we wound up with yesterday was now,
as Fox had mentioned, the Senate votes on this today.
But yesterday was not a formal vote in the Senate.
It wasn't a formal roll call vote, but it was
passed by unanimous consent and there were zero objections. But

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what we saw yesterday was, with one exception, every single
member of Congress voted the same way, and that was
to release the files the House for twenty seven to
one the Senate unanimous consent. They'll actually take the full

(38:47):
roll call vote today, but there's no reason to think
that that's going to change.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
Republicans who might have voted no were given political cover
by Trump when he changed his mind on this.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Let's face it, you didn't want to be a Republican
running in the midterm election and have your Democratic hopents say, yeah, yeah,
this is the person who didn't want you to know
what was going on with Jeffrey.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
Ebstraight, you're the person who's hiding pedophiles, right.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
And that's what it That's the way it would have
played out. So all seven members of our state's delegation
all voted in order to release these files. This also
gives Nancy Mason cover certainly.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
And Lauren Boberts and Marjorie Taylor.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
And Marjorie Taylor now Marjorie Taylor Green yesterday questioning whether
or not the Justice Department will actually release all the
information it possesses, and I'm doubting she's the one who's
going to say this. She says, the real test is
will the Department of Justice release the files or will

(39:55):
it all remain tied up in investigations? Will the CIA
release the files? Oh? Okay, now this is different. Okay,
now we're talking something a little different here.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
Well, I mean, we knew that Epstein was involved in
foreign affairs. He would dabble trying to play around. I mean,
it wasn't just you know, the women that we're investigating.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
New Marjorie Taylor, or as Trump has now dubbed her trader,
Green says she's going to Uh, he's done being lied to.
She bows to read names mentioned in the files on
the house floor.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
Well, here's the problem with that, as Mike Johnson pointed
out yesterday, is there were a lot of people that
got that cross paths with Jeffrey Epstein. He was a
high profile guy. Sure, it doesn't mean that every name
that's in the Epstein files is a pedophile.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
No, and that that that's the issue.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
Right, Yeah, And that's that's what Mike Johnson warned us
of yesterday, is that you're going to see some names
and there's going to have to be some judgment free,
you know, research into why this name was involved and
why that name was involved, because every person that was
involved was not going to the island on a regular
basis to molest young girls.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Right. And Johnson had had conversations with fun over the
weekend to try hopefully to get the Senate to at
least make an amendment to this bill that would have
protected some of those types of individuals.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
But you can't. Now you were adact a single name,
and you're going to be accused of cover up.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Uh huh. And I just wonder if you know if
it went and this once the Senate takes our full
roll call vote. Trump, as has said now in the
last few days, he'll sign off on this. He's got
nothing to hide. He has. Once he does, that will
start the clock ticket. The Department of Justice has thirty
days to release the files and expected to be on

(41:57):
day thirty. Okay, just expect that. But will we see everything?
Number one? How are we going to know? But there's
one word in here that's got some people a little

(42:17):
if he as to whether or not we see everything,
and that's the word unclassified. That's in the resolution to
release unclassified documents. Who determines what's classified and what's not

(42:38):
DJ could easily say, well, this set of information here
could cause harm to national security. It has to stay classified.
That word is in the resolution unclassified. Now, the other

(43:01):
question here is the Democrats and Trump has said what
they're trying to do here is play this out in
order to distract the American public from all the great
things that me and the Republicans are doing for the country.
Scott Jennings has a theory here that Democrats might face
some blowback because well, we've seen again just in the

(43:29):
last few days, some of these some of those file,
some of those emails, people like Larry Summers mentioned to
the point where he's withdrawing from public life. Jennings is
under the impression that again there will be deep Democrat
tile Democratic ties to Epstein, which a lot of people think,

(43:52):
as we've talked about over and over again, if there
was something in there harmful for Trump, why didn't Biden
release it?

Speaker 3 (44:01):
Now, we know that some of those files couldn't come
out because of Gallaine Maxwell and her appeals, and that
was yeah, and that was what was said at the time,
But we know that, I mean, government leaks all the time.
Oh sure, yeah, And if there had been something damaging
enough to prevent Donald Trump from being re elected or

(44:22):
e elected in the last election, that it would have
come out.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Or were they trying to provide cover for other Democrats?
Could be that's the theory here. Did the Biden DOJ
know that there was stuff in there that was going
to be damning to the Democrat interest ahead of a
presidential election? And even if they thought they had something

(44:50):
on Trump, they didn't want to put it out there
because there was plenty on Democrats too. Donald. But I'll
just be totally honest with you right here. This is
just my personal feeling. Were my feeling. We're getting set
up for another big really a nothing burger? Another nothing burger?

(45:11):
Yeah yeah, this time with cheese, because I kind of
I just see this coming, man.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
I think it's we're going to wind up seeing some
names on both sides and people are going to have
to defend themselves.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
We will. But are we going to see the big fish?
See carry on our or a nothing burger? We're going
to see the whopper?

Speaker 3 (45:34):
Are you going to see a big fish that leads
to criminal activity? I mean how you may see a
lot of big names, but where they again.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
Again, can you tie them directly? Can you show that
they did something wrong?

Speaker 3 (45:47):
Were they molesting young women?

Speaker 1 (45:52):
So? Do we get the whopper? Do we get the
happy meal? I'm turning towards. Yeah, we get something, but
but nothing that's going to shake the the core of
this country's political system to its knees. I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
It's the stuff people are talking about, and he called.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
Them out like a bad evan like you doing right now?

Speaker 2 (46:17):
One on three point five FM and five sixty AM
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Speaker 1 (46:33):
Say forty one time for the final thoughts for Wednesday,
November the nineteenth. As far as I know, there haven't
been any roads or intersections or interchanges named after Marvin Pendarvas.
Have there? I hope not?

Speaker 3 (46:48):
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
I don't think so either. We seem to have a
pinsion of doing that around here then having to go
back and change the name afterwards. And had he been Yeah,
that's how to be coming down in a hurry. Bendar
pleading not guilty yesterday, the former state house representative not
guilty to eleven charges related to defrauding clients, making settlements

(47:12):
without their knowledge, and even forging clients signatures on settlement documents. Yikes. Pendarves,
in addition to serving in the state House, was a
personal injury lawyer. The accusation that he put in his
own bank account five hundred and thirty two thousand dollars

(47:32):
it should have gone to clients sound familiar at all?

Speaker 3 (47:35):
Yeah, not the first lawyer who's tried that in this state.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
No, there was another one, wasn't there? At least one
more sure, maybe more than that. Yeah, no, definitely, I
know more than that. But you know one that comes
to mind, he's mind bars right now. And for pendarvas
a fifty thousand dollars unsecured bail set. Not sure if
he's got the money at least the US assistant attorney yesterday,

(48:00):
I said, IM not sure if he's got the money
to put up that kind of bond. The magistrate determining
that he's going to need a public defender. Where all
that money go? Yikes?

Speaker 3 (48:13):
I mean, dude, you're a member of the state House.
You're influential. I don't know how the practice was going,
you know, good or whatever?

Speaker 1 (48:22):
When is enough not enough?

Speaker 3 (48:23):
Huh?

Speaker 1 (48:25):
A story We hear way too often.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
And you would think there would be enough high profile
lessons out there to know you shouldn't do this.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
Yeah. Right. The CITATE Medical Affairs Subcommittee hearing more than
an hour of testimony yesterday from both sides on a
bill that would require healthcare providers give patients of verbal
and written warning before giving them the COVID nineteen vaccine.

(48:53):
This bill, put up by Tom Corbin, would require patients
be informed of the vaccine, is novel and that it
may be contaminated by the presence of fragments or bacterial
plasmid DNA encapsulated in a liquid nanoparticle delivery vehicle, whatever
all that means.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
Yeah, I'm not sure I would have changed my mind
if I had known all.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
That all right, and that the long term effects are
an I think most all of us know that right now.
I don't know, maybe some don't. The action in Charlotte continues.
His border patrol and ice working independently are getting some

(49:35):
bad folks off the streets. And again Liberal Charlotte is
freaking out over this, to the tune of We're on Monday.
At least some twenty one percent of students did not
show up to class. What does that tell you many
how many undocumented illegal immigrants earned the Queen City. When

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one out of five students doesn't show up the class,
I think it does you a lot. What was the
stat that CBS reported a couple of days ago one
in six residents of Charlotte were not born in this country.
That doesn't mean that one in six are here illegally. But

(50:23):
you know, Charlotte has certainly become a melting pot. And
while that goes on, and there was a case and
there'll be federal charges brought. You see the video that
the guy tried to ram a van into some ICE
vehicles there. This has become the new way of doing things,
says Trump took office, ICE reportedly has seen a thirteen
increase in vehicular attacks against officers, and the Democrats continue

(50:49):
to egg this.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
On violence against federal officials.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Yeah, the fact that you've got Democrats in Congress that
are egging it on. And not only that, now you've
got a group of Democrat lawmakers with military and intelligence
backgrounds who put out a video yesterday. It was posted
by Alissa Slockin, Democrat senator from Michigan. It features six

(51:14):
Democrat lawmakers talking about their prior service while telling members
of the military and the intelligence community that threats to
the constitution are coming from right here at home. And
they're referring to Donald Trump and Pete Hegsath. They in

(51:35):
this video urged service members to refuse what they're calling
illegal orders.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
Wow, okay, so asking our soldiers to discern which orders
they want to follow and which ones they don't.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
Yeah, it don't work like that. Nope, you now, it
don't work like that. So here you got elected members
of Congress telling and intelligence members to defy the commander
in chief. Those are words I never thought would come
out of my mouth, but there they are. We all

(52:10):
remember that, that utterly tragic scene, and it took several
lives with that cargo ship smashed into the Francis Scott
Keybridge in Baltimore. That was March a year ago. The
NTSB yesterday blaming the Maryland Transit Authority for failing to

(52:30):
assess the bridge's ability to withstand a ship strike. Well,
that was a problem for the record bridges that Charlestonarry
for example. There now they have the the buttress around
the bottom of the bridge pillars, which would thwart any vehicle,
a vessel like that, from actually hitting the pillar itself.

(52:51):
But the Francis Scott Keybridge didn't have that. And that
last report out from the NTSB also found get a
load of this, a single misinstalled wire led to that
total power loss.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
On the ship itself.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
Yeah, just one misinstalled wire. One wire.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
Took down a bridge and killed several crazy Well, who's
responsible for wiring that ship?

Speaker 1 (53:21):
Yeah, well they'll be we'll be fine of that. Out
I suspect and out West in Washington. They're keeping their
eyes peeled. Mount Rainier has entered, uh, what they're calling
an unprecedented seventy two hour tremor phase.

Speaker 4 (53:40):
No.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
Yeah, and they're a little afraid that that thing could
be blown its top sometime soon. This is one of
our country's most dangerous volcanoes, and an eruption of Mount Rainier, well,
it could cause issues for Seattle, Tacoma, Yakama, Washington, and Portland, Oregon. No,

(54:05):
I know what you're thinking.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
Don't go there. No, don't go there. We don't want
to see that happen. Would is that close enough to
cause tsunamis? I can't remember where a Mountneer is.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
I don't know that a volc you know, earthquake does.
But yeah, a volcano eruption, I don't know that that happened.
Don't be thinking that. I know what you're thinking.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
I wasn't thinking it.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
Not you, I wasn't thinking it's eight forty nine. There
are final thoughts for Wednesday, November nineteenth,