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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:21):
This is Columbia's Morning News with Gary David and Christopher
Thompson on one O three point five FM and five
sixty AM w VOC.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
And it is sixteen after six. Good morning, It's Thursday,
remember the sixth How the heck are you? Jerry David,
that's me, joined by Christopher Thompson. That's me, yeah, right there,
and various and sundry other assorted players in the program
here for this this Thursday morning, Good morning to you.

(00:50):
Let's let's let's let's start with what Tyler just told
us here. Okay, it's right now. For example, at the
radio range, it's forty nine degrees. That's gonna be the
high temperature on Monday. Wow, the high temperature.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
Okay, it was downright warm by the end of yesterday,
yesterday beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah, Listen, we're gonna have a Saturday, for example, we're
looking at a high close to eighty both Saturday and Sunday,
upper seventies. And then this crazy thing happens. Then this
this already blast moves through and so we'll go from
you know, near eighty over the weekend to a day
later on Monday, a high of fifty So we're gonna

(01:34):
drop like thirty degrees almost thirty degrees off the high
temp in a matter of twenty four hours, and then
waking up Tuesday morning, Tuesday, by the way, don't forget
Veterans Day, Tuesday morning, waking up to sub freezing tempts. Yeah,
but it's just kind of a blip for a couple
of days and then things will, you know, get back
to somewhat normal. And in case you hear the rumors

(01:55):
floating around, We're not gonna get snow here, but but
there possibility that, you know, parts of the upstate could
see a little dusting potentially. Really yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
A little early for that, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
It is a little early all the way. I remember, well,
a couple of years ago we had snow early was
I think more than a couple of years ago, but
it was really weird. We had snowe like early in November,
like I remember, first or second just a kind of
a one time boom, and not everybody got it. I mean,
we got out in Lexington, but not everybody got it.
So yeah, AnyWho, we got the massive changes coming in
the weather at least for a couple of days. It

(02:33):
looks like, well, we got stuff, folks. Let's get to it.
The rundown, the big stories, the hot topics for Thursday,
November sixth. We'll start at home. You knew this wasn't
going to be a one day thing, right, might even
be a win a one week thing. Here the Mace saga.

(02:54):
So now, Nancy Mayce, congresswoman gubernatorial candidate says she's finding
a defamation lawsuit over which she calls misleading incident reports.
She's looking at at litigation against both American Airlines and
the Charleston International Airport, alleging that the airport and employees

(03:18):
of said airline coordinated and conspired to create false and
misleading incident reports. Okay, well we'll take some time and
delve into this further. She calls the reports fabricated, defamatory,
violating her civil rights. Oh goodness, sakes, Karen, how many

(03:42):
times now do you see responses on her social media sites?

Speaker 4 (03:44):
Karen, I think people are paying less and less attention
to all that now, I mean, now that the feurers
die down, you know, she's just she's beating that drum
and nobody's listening, all right.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
So she's threatening a lawsuit. You've got leaders across the
state and in the low Country that are rallying around
the airport. A letter signed by more than fifty prominent
state leaders. We're talking people like the mayors of Charleston
North Charleston. This letter was released yesterday afternoon, supporting the airport,

(04:17):
supporting the staff. So it's like everybody against Nancy on
this one, right. These signatories included at least twenty four
state senators and representatives, both Democrats and Republicans. We mentioned
yesterday Tim Scott had weighed in rebuking Mace. Now Lindsey

(04:38):
Graham weighs in as well on all this. So it's great.
So what it makes you? Yesterday she shows up in
Columbia and spends some time a Senate oversight hearing, a
state Senate oversight hearing.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
Yeah, but she didn't say anything, did she?

Speaker 2 (04:52):
No?

Speaker 4 (04:52):
Okay, Well, all right, well dot don't look for smoke
where there's none.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Well, this is just part of the of the package
you get here, right. This oversight hearing was of well,
one of her chief contenders for a governor, Alan Wilson.
It's something that happens on a fairly regular basis. State
agencies have to go oversight. Well, Mace tried to make
this up as though there were, you know, allegations of
improprieties at the Attorney General's office. YadA, YadA, YadA. We'll

(05:20):
run down what was gone over I mean, there were
no bombshells here. This is part of the regular process.
But again it was just what an intimidation factor? What
was that? So anyway, that just happened. We'll head the
details on how that went down. Day thirty seven of
the shutdown. Right, will the state of South Carolina, like

(05:41):
some states have, including up in Virginia, with the Republican governor,
will we declare a state emergency and supplement the supplements
for snap beneficiaries. Again, the governor said that, well, we
don't have any of that money available. It would require
bringing the legislature back to town in order to appropriate

(06:02):
said funds. So in the meantime, uh no, it's the
short answer. He was denied immunity And no great surprise
if you followed this the last couple of days, we've
been telling you about it. Rick Chow, the convenient former
convenience store owner who is in jail behind bars has
been for a couple of years, again, charged with killing
a fourteen year old who he and his family thought

(06:24):
had stole some water bottles from the convenience store. Has
claimed a standard ground defense again, even though Chow and
his son chased alleged shoplifter out of the store out
of the parking lot in down Park Lane Road.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
That's a tough argument to make in that case.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah it was, and well was there? Did this team
have a gun or not? Sheriff's deputy say no, so
well anyway, long story short on this one. Denied the
immunity claim, So Chow will stand trial for murder. Marvin
Pitt Darvis, former State House rep who resigned last year
in dieded in a federal court yesterday. Wirefraud, identity theft,

(07:03):
and money laundering. Wow. Yeah, the story has gone from
bad to worst for the Charleston Democrat. We're short on doctors.
A lot of folks are these days. Some of the
State House have a fix. They want to make it
easier for nurse practitioners and physicians assistance to We'll take

(07:25):
care of patients without as much doctor supervision. The shutdown continues.
Get a load of this Los Angeles County. All right,
over a million families are receiving SNAP benefits. How many
families are in Los Angeles County three point two million,
one third of households in Los Angeles County getting Snap benefits.

(07:52):
That just don't work.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
Man, No, that sounds like in a system that's being abused.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
It does, doesn't it. Meantime, A Chuck Schumer, his post
election at news conference yesterday had a visitor Bernie Sanders
crashed the party, slamming the Democrats for not supporting the Socialists.
Divisions amongst the Republican Party over an end date for
the funding bill. Remember, the original House bill would have

(08:17):
only funded the government through November twenty first, just a
couple of weeks from now. So there was talk about
extending it into January. But well they just can't seem
to quite agree on how long two extended. Meantime, it
all stays shut down, and the FAA it's another big
you know. One of the big glaring points of this
shutdown is air traffic. The FAA reducing air traffic by

(08:39):
ten percent now across forty high volume markets during the shutdown.
That list includes ten percent reduction in flights into and
out of Atlanta.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
Yeah, I mean that seems like the right play. It
makes me feel safer in a sense.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
That's what it's all about.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
Right then, knowing that an air traffic controller who's overworked
and not being paid is juggling, you know, hundreds of
flights right take away from his workload a little bit
until we can settle this.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Charlotte Douglas also at ten percent reduction in flights. So
those are busy airports. No reduction for us here. But
guess what everything out of Columbia, basically almost everything flies
through one of those two airports we just mentioned. All right, friends,
we got that, We got more coming your way here
on this It is the Thursday morning edition of Columbia's
Morning News. Thanks so much for being with us. Listen

(09:34):
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Speaker 2 (09:56):
Wanting good to have you long six forty day thirty
seven the government shut down. More news on that coming up,
how it's affecting folks, how it's affecting air traffic, and
uh well, any closer to any resolution up on Capitol Hill.
We'll be talking about that. We got more, uh more
headline news from from from Nancy Mace to get into
as well lawsuits and pushed back from a bunch of

(10:19):
folks over her allegations about the airport staff in Charleston
and even even folks who worked for American Airlines part
of this litigation. We'll be talking about that this morning.
So did you hear the one about the time the
Mexican president got groped? Yeah, this really happened. Claudia Scheinbaum,

(10:41):
president of Mexico, assaulted, having to fight off a man
who touched her body and tried to kiss her as
she greeted crowds.

Speaker 4 (10:51):
And her security was there. No, oh, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
This is this is a This is a country where
a politician and journalists are assassinated on a fairly regular basis.
Just recently had one of the country's mayors assassinated, just
as just a couple of days ago. And here's the
president walking through a crowd greeting folks and there's no

(11:21):
security detail there. What, Well, this is serious business. Obviously.
The guy seemed to be intoxicated, according to reports, suspected
of harassing other women that day. He might not even
know that she was the president. He was just looking
for a woman to harass. And well, she's pressing charges.

(11:45):
But I think the big story here is, well, aside
from the seriousness of course a woman getting growth like this,
is that this is the president of a country again
where politicians are not safe, a lot less safe than
they are here, and she's out in the crowd with
no security detail. That's a little bizarre, okay. Marvin Pendarbis,

(12:14):
former restar of the state Democrat Party, member of the
state House Democrat representative from the Low Country who resigned
last year because of issues, has now been indicted on
federal charges of wire fraud, identity theft, and money laundering.

(12:37):
The Charleston demm who had his law license suspended last year.
This was after he was accused of in a lawsuit
of legal malpractice in committing unfair and deceptive practices. Apparently,
the allegations that he victimized people to need sounds like

(13:00):
somebody else we know Alec Murdoch, whose family. I guess
he's not happy with the portrayal of his family. The
k new Hulu is that Hulu? Is it? I'm still
I'm surprised they're still making shows about it. We watched
a couple episodes that apparently, Yeah, he's not happy with
the way his family's being portrayed in that series. It's

(13:22):
out right now.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
Now is he being told about it or is he
watching it himself?

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Well, that's what I don't know. I mean, has he
got a Hula subscription? Behind bars?

Speaker 4 (13:28):
I'm not sure how all that works. I know there's
there are TVs, but I don't know anyway.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
This indictment over Penndarbus as I digressed sorry, says that
he filed lawsuits, negotiated settlements on behalf of clients, but
did not tell clients of settlements he'd obtained. Again, Alec Murdoch,
did he fraudiley signed the client's name on a settlement
at least with an insurance company. I think that's the
one that really trapped him, right there was a said

(13:57):
client figured out, wait a minute, that's not my signature.
All told, more than half million dollars we're putting his
law firm his back account without paying the client any
settlement money. So Marvin pindarbis he's got some some big

(14:17):
issues at him. We have a doctor shortage in our state.
This is not a news story, and this is a
story we hear in a lot of places. And by
the way, you think it's bad now, you know, let
the Democrats get what they ultimately wish for, which is
a universal payer you know, single payer healthcare system, free stuff.
Just wait till you get a load of that. But

(14:39):
over the state House there's a couple of different bills
that they're they're looking at here trying to ease this shortage,
but reactions mixed. We we're in sounds like the teachers
thing here. Right. We have a deficit right now of
about thirty seven hundred doctors in our state.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
Now, is that across the board or just in rural
areas where they don't get paid much and it's hard
to keep them there.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
That's where the biggest problems are. Yes, okay, certainly, but
this is yeah, that's a number. This that's stay wide.
That number came out this past spring and a report
from the Department Health Human Services. We have about forty
five hundred physicians in the state, but we have a

(15:33):
deficit of thirty seven hundred. So that's a serious issue
right there. So one proposal right now, under current law,
a nurse practitioner a physician's assistant must practice under a
supervising doctor. Okay, well, there's a proposal at the state
House that would allow pas to work independently once they

(15:55):
achieved some two thousand hours of experience. Another would let
nurse practitioners open their own practices if they meet certain criteria.
Now I don't know about you, but it's not unusual
now for you to go into a doctor's office or
to you know where these urgent care centers and be
seen by a nurse practitioner as opposed to an actual,

(16:16):
you know, of a full fledged doctor. Not unusual at all.
And there's a lot of training goes into this, and
I mean, they know their stuff. Some people see them
every time they go to the doctor, so do my wife.
Mat fact, my wife does one of her practices. She
attends on a regular basis that she prefers to see
the nurse practitioner. So and nobody's saying they're not qualified.

(16:37):
But well, there is some blowback here certainly, needless to
say as to you know, which which way to go
on this thing? Bottom line is that we got to
go some way on this. So we're short teachers, we're
short doctors, we're short energy. You know, these are growing pains. Yeah,

(16:58):
but there's the other other things their play here as well,
obviously with all these things that I just mentioned. So anyway,
this will be a topic of discussion coming up with
the next session, which, don't look now, is what a
little over a month two months away as of this

(17:18):
moment though, none of those bills I just mentioned or
those ideas made it out of a subcommittee, So they'll
they'll pull more testimony before they decide which way they're
going to go. I don't know how this next session
is going to shape up here. Energy is going to
be a you know, a big topic, certainly.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
You wait, wait wait, wait, wait wait wait, are you
trying to predict what will be the focus of the
General Assembly two months before it starts?

Speaker 2 (17:42):
I know, crazy, right?

Speaker 4 (17:43):
You know that some headline will pop up in late
January that will steal all the attention. Never fails down,
and no matter what they decide, their focus is going
to be it will shift about a week before the
session starts.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
And that'll be the focus up until about a month
before signing.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
They'll get to some controversial topic that will tie them
up for months.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Can I venture your guess as to what said topic
might be? No? No, yeah, I will anyway, Abortion that'll be.
That'll be another hot topic again this year.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
If you're listening to Columbia's morning news on one oh
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once again, here's Gary David and Christopher Tummas approach.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
At sixteen after seven. It is Thursday, No remember the
sixth Then good morning to you. I'm well, I was
gonna say, I'm kind of having a hard time getting
a handle on this right now, the reaction, but maybe
I'm not the reaction to the ongoing saga, the soap opera,
the continuing crisis that is well, Nancy mays, I have

(18:52):
I have not heard from anyone. I just to say this.
You know, someone's gonna email me and feel free Gary
David at WVOS dot com or hit us up on
the talkback feature on the iHeart radio app. But I
have heard from no one in our audience who is
like shut up Gary, Nancy Makeson's best thing since ly bread.
There are those folks out there. Certainly she's got her
fan following, she does, but I'm not hearing from anybody.

(19:17):
And you know, if you if you follow her on
social media and get the popcorn, you see, you know,
mixed reaction.

Speaker 4 (19:32):
I think this is this is driving home the fact
that you know, people are used to this behavior from her,
but it's at the national level. It doesn't feel as close.
Now she's running for governor and she's attacking people in
our state, and suddenly it gets a lot closer and
it's turning more people off.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
That's the sense that I'm getting. It's one thing, you know,
to go back to a conversation we had the other day.
We were talking about these off off year elections and
now turnout is usually so dismal on those things, and
you made the point that again, these are the fees
of the folks have a much more impact on your
life than say, you know, a president or a senator

(20:12):
or even a congress person. You know, you get down
to this level, these are the people have you know,
a more direct day to day impact on on on
your livelihood. So you know, Nancy mayce being in d C.
And you know, raising a ruckus and and and such
is one thing. But and Nancy Mason the governor's mansion

(20:36):
that's exhibiting the same types of behaviors here, Okay, is
a bit of a bridge too far. Now, Okay. She's
obviously patterned herr, her campaign, and her political persona after
Donald Trump. That's for a reason. So Trump has that
reputation and you don't want to go into the old

(21:00):
but it's unfortunately it's true. You know, there are things
that guys can get away with that the girls can't. Right.
You know, when a man like Trump does this, people
look at him as, yeah, he's being tough. But you know,
for Nancy Mace, you're going to have people out there
when a woman does that, they're like, oh, boy, Karen,

(21:22):
Now that's not necessarily fair. But on the other hand,
Trump delivers things. So the question becomes, all right, what
is Nancy Mace delivered for South Carolinians. So latest here
is that she's going to sue she says, the airport
in Charleston. She's going to sue American Airlines and maybe

(21:46):
some other folks.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
What does the airline have to do with the dust
up she had with security there.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Well, she says that the airport and American Airlines employees
coordinated and conspired to create false and misleading incident reports
regarding what happened last Thursday morning. So we're to believe
that the American Airlines got together with leadership at the
airport and conspired together to basically her story is, is

(22:16):
that none of this ever happened. I guess right. It's
weird because on the one hand, and when a press
conference the other day, she even said things like did
I drop an F bomb? I hope? I did? You know?
She basically, you know, confessed to the behavior that the
airport staff claims she was involved with. Yet the lawsuit

(22:42):
makes it sound like they just made all this up. Again,
the airport and airline employees coordinated and conspired to create
false and misleading incident reports.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
Did I mean, did she do something once she got
on the plane?

Speaker 2 (22:58):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
I still don't understand where American Airlines comes into play
the I guess.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
The gate agents or okay, you know, the people inside
the terminal who work for American Airlines, because remember, uh,
the the story was is that this all started that
TSA checkpoint.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
Right, But the tirade continued to continue all the way
to the gate, all.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
The way down to the gates. So yeah, she says
the reports are fabricated, their defamatory, they violated her civil rights.
Oh and they constitute tortious interference in her gubernatory gubernatorial campaign.
Oh okay.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
Well, I think if if she cares about such things,
and I'm no longer sure she does, I think she's
going to realize that this doesn't play politically well here
in South Carolina.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
See that, And that's the sense I'm getting from people
that I talk to, people I hear from is Okay,
you know what, we just want somebody to try to
make the state of better place. We're not interested in
somebody you know, going out there and having an and
having an enemy's list and you know, continually prosecuted and persecuted.
We just want somebody to you know, make life better

(24:07):
for us here in South Carolina. We got things we
got to get done here.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
And there are more and more people calling well, not
calling her Karen, calling her crazy.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
Yeah, they're doing that too. Just again, follow on social
media and see what the reaction is from folks. Now
we mentioned the other day that Tim Scott waiting on this.
He's not happy with her behavior and not happy with
the fact that she brought up his name and all this.
Lindsey Graham now also is uh speaking out about this

(24:36):
and and criticizing her for her behavior. And a letter
signed by some fifty or so state leaders, including the
mayors of Charleston, North Charleston, Somerville, Goose Creek.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
Okay, people who benefit from that airport.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yeah. Signatories also included almost well at least two dozen
state senators and representatives from both sides of the aisle.
They also have this letter that suppressed expressed that to
support for the airport and for the for the staff. Okay,

(25:23):
this is I'm not sure this is turning out the
way that Mace thought that it would.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
And I think she would have known by now that
the what plays nationally is not going to play the
same apparently not.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
I don't you would think she would.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
I don't think she's changing her tactics though.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Oh no, no, no, that's that's not going to change.
I mean, it's too late now. She can't even if
she wanted to, she can't do it about face on
this now. There's too much water going on to that bridge.
That ain't happening. I'll be curious to see if this again,
this lawsuit's not been filed yet. She's just threatening it

(26:06):
and apparently it's been drawn up, but it's not been filed.
Be curious to see if it actually is filed or not.
But again, she's self styled her persona to match out
of Donald Trump. It works for Trump. Obviously not with everybody,
but with this support it works. And even folks who

(26:29):
don't support him well is vehemently as others, but who
do vote for him, Yes, sometimes it rubs them the
wrong way, but they also see Trump as delivering the
goods as well. Can the same case be made for
Nancy Mays? Is she delivering the goods for South Carolina
as a congresswoman? And will she deliver the goods for

(26:50):
South Carolina as a governor? Or is it just going
to be? Well more of this Mark Sanford was the
big thing was kind of cute actually okay, but is
you know, four years of chaos? Is that what people want? Well,
we'll see, we'll see. I like keeping up with local
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Speaker 2 (27:27):
It is seven thirty nine a morning, and we appreciate
you joining us this morning for Thursday, November six. Big
stories today, of course, we're just talking about the ongoing
Nancy may saga, threats of a lawsuit, blowback from our
states to US senators, blowback from some fifty or two
state leaders, including a number of low country mayors, about

(27:48):
two dozen members of the state House, both Republicans and Democrats.
The shutdown continues date thirty seven now, and it's well
impacting a lot of things, one of those air travel,
and there are going to be some restrictions that are
going to be put in place as a result of that.

(28:09):
We'll be talking more about that coming up of the
eight o'clock hour this morning. And the fallout from the Dems.
Big Blue Night the other night, I say big blue night.
They were in big blue places, so you expected that.
But how much did this government shut down impact what
we saw at the polls? Or was it just we

(28:30):
hate Donald Trump? That's all still to come here on
this the Thursday morning edition of Columbia's Morning News. Now.
Yesterday there was an event over at the State House
that at any other given time would have gone probably
totally unnoticed, and that was an oversight hearing. This time

(28:51):
it happened to be focused on the Attorney General's office,
and because the Attorney general is running for a governor,
suddenly everybody took notes. WHOA, now, what are these? These
are regular, as a matter of fact, by state law,
every state agency has got to be reviewed by the

(29:13):
Legislative Oversight Committee at the State House every seven years.
That's just the way it's always been, the way it's
always gonna be. And this year, well, it just so
turned out that the Attorney General's office was one of
those that was scheduled to come before the committee. But
because Alan Wilson is running for governor, suddenly people set

(29:36):
up and took notice. Oh okay. One of those who
took notice again was the aforementioned Nancy Mace, who showed
up at this hearing yesterday. She didn't speak, she didn't
say anything. She just sat in the audience for a while.
But prior to it, Mace set this up on social

(29:59):
media saying that, well, in other words, that there were
allegations that they were investigating. Now, chances were pretty good.
Anybody who saw that and then saw that there was
an oversight committee hearing yesterday into the Attorney General's office

(30:19):
who was not familiar with the fact that this is,
you know, this is just business as usual.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
Probably bought into that, or maybe they thought she was
answering him because he told her at the airport the
other day with waffle.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Waffle House and Chick fil A. Yeah, so that back
and forth continues. Yeah, all right, So well, what what
what happened to this meeting yesterday? Well, not a heck
of a lot. Nothing. Yeah, I mean, no fireworks or
no bombs dropped. The subcommittee had already done their work.
They presented their findings and their recommendations based on what

(30:52):
they'd already looked at. And we're talking about six main
areas that by the way, Mary Greeno at I TV
is doing an outstanding job covering State House stuff. She
really is doing a wonderful job here and I'm looking

(31:13):
at some of the work she did here. The six
areas that they look at salary retention issues, are people
leaving left and right office dynamics to include staff favoritism,
pay disparities, burnout, low morale, and questions about whether or

(31:35):
not the AG's office is required to present other state
agencies when they're sued or represent I should say, when
they're sued. So those were the things they looked at.
Those are the things they talked about. And as we
heard yesterday from Shane Massey, the Center majority leader, most
of the issues they discussed are the same issues they

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discussed with a lot of other big state agencies. I mean,
it's pretty pretty common in state government work to have
all these issues, and matter of fact, outside of state
government work in Indian business, these are pretty much, you know,
the sorts of things that you see pop up from
time to time. Now, Brad Hutto, again who's a Democrat,

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the Eastonate minority leader, did bring up all the numerous
legal challenges that the AG's office has been involved in,
especially during the Biden years, and there were a lot
of them. There have been a lot of lawsuits filed
or at least taken part in by our state's Attorney's
General's office ensuing Democrat administrations. And Hutto tried to make

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a point that we're supposed to be the top cop
and you know here in South Carolina, are we taking
away time from doing that by going after political opponents
at the national level that it takes away from the
crime fighting part of what's supposed to be happening. So
this was again one of these things that is run.

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Every state agency goes through it, and you know, you
can bet your bottom dollar that in every one of
these they're going to find something that didn't go right,
and the idea is to identify these issues and work
to improve them. This was not the sort of thing
that well, some had characterized it to be that, oh yeah,

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there are serious allegations here and that's why they're having
this meeting and look into them. So there's run of
the mill, par for the course. Okay, all right, I
missed anything in there, mister Thompson. I mean, I'm looking
for a bombshell here, didn't really find one. Supreme Court

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yesterday getting hearing arguments on Trump tariffs. Are they legal
or not?

Speaker 4 (34:03):
That's a huge story. Yeah, that's I mean, that's that
goes to the very heart of what Donald Trump is
using to get everything he wants right now. And it
also strikes at the heart of the big fight between
Trump and Congress. And you talk about Republicans, Democrats, you
talk about conservatives, liberals. Everybody seems to be leaning one

(34:26):
way or the other on this, and a lot of
conservatives think Trump is overreached.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Yeah, and the the justices yesterday by and large, and
sometimes you read too much into the questioning and the
responses and such. I get it. But still it's a
good indicator. We're pretty skeptical about are these legal or not?
Can a president, any president, unilaterally impose these without the

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support and the approval of Congress.

Speaker 4 (35:01):
And I mean, we know that the president, ultimately the
chief executive, is in charge of foreign policy, and he's
been using these for foreign policy reasons, and some people
see that as a bit of a stretch.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
And again, the question in front of the Supreme Court
is not is it fair or not fair? That again,
as Trump has maintained that other countries, at least the
initial push was that other countries are, you know, imposing
steep tariffs on us. And it's been one sided, and
we're just trying to level the playing field. But it
has becomes a way of trying to influence foreign policy, certainly,

(35:41):
But that's not the question at heart here. The question
is Congress has the power of the purse. Congress has
the power of taxation, which Oh wait, these aren't terror
these aren't taxationing, these are tariffs. Well, Chief Justice John Roberts,
when so far to call these tariffs an imposition of taxes.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
Because we'll ultimately wind up paying I suppose that's his argument.
That's his argument, the American people will wind up paying
for them.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
Wait, we got John Roberts talking taxes again. Wait a minute.
Last time John Roberts talked taxes didn't turn out very well,
did it.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah? So is it a tarriff or is it a tax?
And either way, does the White House have the constitutional
authority to unilatterally impose these or does that require an
Act of Congress? I got a feeling. I got a
feeling here this is not gonna go Trump's way.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
Well, think about how deeply that would impact, you know,
the money that he says, we're you know, we're winning
all these trade battles around the world. If we didn't
have this to impose tariffs, how many of these trade
agreements would he have in his hand right now? I mean,
that's what he's that's what he did. He came out
at the start swinging, you know, tariff's on you, tariffs

(37:11):
on you, and then he went around starting with his allies,
but you know, eventually working his way even too China
and saying, Okay, we'll reduce this tariff if you do
this right. And that's how he's gotten all these trade
agreements done. If he doesn't have that kind of power,
you know, that takes away a lot of his negotiating.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah, and let's face it, he's got a lot of
these deals done and sometimes they get undone. It's been
a flurry of activity here. So this would be forget
the final cost to you and me for a second.
Any in my personal life, I haven't noticed any any
economic impacting these tariffs, although we heard all the doom

(37:49):
and gloom going into all this, but it hasn't impacted
my family's life at this point. But you might argue that, yeah,
if the Supreme Court says you can't do this, this
has a much bigger and broader impact on not your
economy in your pocketbook, but on foreign policy.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
And the world economy and the world economy.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Okay, so oral arguments yesterday when we get at a
fit advans from the court, well, there'd be some time.

Speaker 4 (38:17):
That's that's the thing we talk about these cases is
if their life or death, and then we don't hear
you forget about three or four months at least.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
You're listening to Columbia's Morning News on one oh three
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Speaker 2 (38:37):
Heyome more to you, sixteen after eight. It's Thursday, November
the sixth. We appreciate your patronage this morning. I am
Gary David. He is Christopher Thompson. Good morning, sir. And
we were in day thirty seven of the government shutdown. Yeah,
it continues. It drags on and on and on. We've
set our record plus plus two now plus two days.
That is longest ever government shutdown. UH. Yesterday, Trump UH,

(39:03):
speaking to Center of Republicans, UH blamed the shutdown at
least as part of what negatively affected the Republicans performance
on election night the other night. Yeah, maybe I should
be ready more into this than I am. But you know,
when I at least when I think of the big

(39:23):
races and the referendum, the prop in California that was
being discussed. You know, yeah, Virginia flipped. Uh you know Youngkin,
the Republican outgoing and maybe they flipped that seat, certainly,
But Virginia is a blue place these days. Anyway, It's
not purple, it's blue. Maybe I should be ready more

(39:45):
to that, but I'm not. But anyway, there you go.
But Trump said, at least you know that that shutdown
was part of the problem for Republicans. Matter of fat politico.
Let me find it in front of me. Here, I
got someone is stack of stuff here. Yeah, there's there's
the the reporting that Youngkin blames government shut down for
the lost in at least in Virginia. Of course, you

(40:06):
get around the Beltway there in northern parts of Virginia,
a lot of people are work for the federal government.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
But this, I mean, this isn't going to impact the
mid terms. I mean, this will be no one off. Yeah,
unless this keeps going and going and going, And you know,
we were in May and we're still arguing this will
be a forgotten story and a very quick moving news cycle.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Well, if we if we get to May, every every
federal government worker out there is going to have found
a new job by then.

Speaker 4 (40:38):
Let's hope we don't even get to December.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
Let's hope not. I hope were going to get the Thanksgiving.
But here in South Carolina, of course, the snap benefits
big story here and back. On the twenty fifth of
last month, the governor held a presser and he said
that we don't have any available money to fill in here,
not at least without the State House reconvening. You probably thought, what,

(41:01):
wait a minute, we have massive budget surpluses each and
every year, each and every year. Well, that money's got
to be appropriate. Apparently the governor says it's not up
to him. He can't do it. You can declare a
state of emergency, but the State House would have to,
you know, come back to session, which I'm sure the
Democrats would be happy to do and appropriate that money.

(41:26):
So it looks like that's not going to happen here
in South Carolina. Now, a couple of the things with
this day thirty seven, and as we've been talking about
the last couple of days, let's say they ended this
today on November the sixth, Well, as it stands right now,
the House bill, this is what the Democrats keep voting
down that House bill. It only extended the funding until

(41:51):
November twenty first, you know, fifteen days from now, and
then we'd be right back here all over again, which
is total lunacy. There's been talk now of extending how
long that CR would last. Originally talked about extending it
into January, but now there's even disagreement among Republicans on

(42:11):
when the end date should be on that. There's something
what a full year continuing resolution, which we've done before.
It would be the second full year CR in a row.
Congress just and I don't know at this point if

(42:32):
we'll ever operate the way it was intended to on
a budget. It'll just be a series of continuing resolutions.
So will it be January or will it be next September?
Disagreement among the GOP as to what it should be.
Politico of this headline, Democrats gird for longer shutdown fight

(42:54):
after election sweep. Huh? So are they feeling embolden? Emboldened suddenly? Okay,
don't read too much into this. New York, New Jersey, Virginia, California. Yeah, suddenly,

(43:14):
you only the world is your the nation is your oyster.
I mean, there are some of the Democrat Party who
really feel like this was a this was an indictment
on the Republicans, and the longer that goes on, the
worse is gonna get for the Republicans. I got a
news slash for you here. The longer it goes on
it has already gone on too long, the worse it

(43:35):
gets for both parties. Nobody comes out smelling like a
rose from this thing. Nobody. There's just no way. I mean,
we mentioned this earlier. California, for example, Los Angeles Los
Angeles County census numbers point out in Los Angeles County

(43:57):
there are three point two million families total Los Angeles County,
big place, three point two million. Over a million of
them are on food stamps. Okay, there's an inherent problem
right there.

Speaker 4 (44:16):
Which is the problem the fact that you have that
many people depending on benefits or the fact that because
you've got that big a number, there's got to be
more fraud there than meets the eye.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
I would say both. Okay, yeah, you can bet, you
bet your bottom art there's some fraud there. But even
take that out of the equation, you still that's way
too many people depend who will become wards of the state. Yep, right,
which is the exact same thing zooran, Mom, Donnie wants
to do in New York City.

Speaker 4 (44:48):
That is socialism.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
That's socialism right there.

Speaker 4 (44:52):
What did he said? He said it the other night.
There's nothing too big or too nothing too big for
the government to solve. And there's no I think too
small for the government to zero in on or something
like that.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Something along though, Yeah, I mean, if he.

Speaker 4 (45:05):
Wants the government involved in every aspect.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
Everything, all right. Then there's the air traffic issue, and
the FAA yesterday taking steps to reduce air traffic by
ten percent across forty high volume markets that starts tomorrow.

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Next Tuesday, air traffic controllers will miss their second straight
paycheck and the problem is going to intensify. And we
are now three weeks away from Thanksgiving Day. I don't
even want to consider what that will look like if
this thing is still going on.

Speaker 4 (45:48):
Yeah, well, I mean, what do you do then if
you've got I mean, we we saw examples in Houston
of you know, when TSA workers don't show up.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
You know what you do? You cancee your travel plans
and you have Thanksgiving dinner over zoom I ain't going
to be well, I hadn't planned to, but I would
if I had planned to. No way, man, right, No,
you might not get there until Thanksgiving Sunday.

Speaker 4 (46:15):
But there are people with business people who don't have
a choice. I mean they have to fly every day.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Yeah, you have Zoom for business too. Come on, man,
we did it during the pandemic. Come on, man, come
on man, Well close to us. You're talking about impacts.
This impacts Atlanta, this impact Charlotte. It doesn't directly impact Columbia.
They're not going to reduce airspace here by ten percent.
But guess what with the great majority of flights that

(46:38):
go out of Columbia Metro are going to wear Atlanta
or Charlotte to connect. So yeah, that's gonna be paying
for everybody hear about it.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
We to wake up as the country talk about it.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
This is pure evil.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
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Speaker 2 (47:09):
Thirty nine at the time. Our final thoughts here for Thursday,
November the sixth. It will be a murder trial next
may for rich how at least that's the dight that's
been set the couple day immunity hearing whether or not
Chow was just standing his ground here in South Carolina

(47:30):
when he shot and killed a fourteen year old who
he thought was stealing a couple of water bottles from
his convenience store on Park Lane Road, claimed it was
self defense, dandre ground. Of course, the ground he claimed
to be standing was nowhere near his convenience store. You
know the story we've been talking about the last couple

(47:51):
of days. He and his son chasing the fourteen year
old out of that convenience store.

Speaker 4 (47:57):
And what were they going to do when they caught him,
because that was part of the argument yesterday. Were they
going to make a citizen's arrest, get.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
The water bottles back? The kid didn't steal any water bottles,
As it turns out, yeah, yeah, exactly what were you
going to do? I don't think Rick Chow went out
there with the intention of shooting and killing him, but no,
that's what wound up happening. I mean just I mean

(48:24):
out of the store, out of the parking lot, and
down Park Lane Road with at which time, according to
what we heard, in this testimony, the son thought the
kid had a gun on him and was pointing a gun. Now,
Rick Chow, the dad, the convenience store owner who shot
and fired and killed the fourteen year old, apparently didn't

(48:47):
see a.

Speaker 4 (48:48):
Gun himself and didn't mention it to sheriffstep didn't.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
Mention it afterwards to Sheriff's deep. Yeah exactly, but he
was you know, this hearing was about was he standing
his ground, was he in here for his life? And
was this shooting justified? Well, no, says a judge. Yeah.
The more we heard about this over the course of
the couple of days as hearing went on, the more unlikely.

(49:13):
It looked like he was going to, you know, be
able to escape a murder trial. So he's not. He'll
stay behind bars. He's been in jail now for gosh,
more than two years. This was Memorial Day weekend, twenty
twenty three. He will stay behind bars being denied bond.

Speaker 4 (49:36):
Remember, the community had a huge reaction. Yeah, and that
was one of the things that his lawyers argued yesterday
as the Sheriff's department made a quick arrest to try
and calm the community down right.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Well, the again, this was not the murder trial. This
was do you get immunity for it based on the
actions of the day, And the Circuit court judge didn't
agree with the defense on this one.

Speaker 4 (50:02):
They just said they had a tough argument.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
To me, Oh, they did, absolutely. Corey Booker is going
to be down on the Low Country for a two
day tour next week to discuss challenges facing working Americans
under Trump and Republicans. Okay, this is in November tenth
and eleventh.

Speaker 4 (50:24):
I guess he's hoping that they don't come to an
agreement on the shutdown before he gets down here.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Well, I'm sure he's said, Hey, hey, Chuck, just give
me a couple of days, buddy, I've already written this speech. Yeah,
I don't have to rewrite this thing. As the highlight
says in this the headline highlighting national moral moment concerns
Moral moment concerns from Okay, all right, Well this really

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means is that Corey Booker is entertaining the thought of
running from president. That's what this really means. You don't
come here to South Carolina like Andy Bisheer did, like
Gavin Newsom did, like Rokanna did. If you don't at
least have some idea you might want to run for the.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
Highest office exactly, raising your profile, had a little money,
probably had a little.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Money while you're at it. Yeah, sure, it doesn't hurt.
It's gonna take them a little bit to figure out.
And Gilbert where they had local elections, like you know,
a lot of other municipalities did this past Tuesday. They
had the two seats on a town council that were open.
The only problem was nobody filed a run for him.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
M Okay, that's sad.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
It is there were seventy write d votes.

Speaker 4 (51:36):
All right, Well, maybe somebody out of all that, maybe
a couple of people had to write in campaign once
they realized they'd missed the deadline.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Maybe. So this is not unheard of in small towns
like Gilbert. But I mean, Gilbert's not gonna be a
small town much longer, you know, electing the town election
and is rapidly encroaching into Gilbert.

Speaker 4 (51:56):
Man and other places and other places too. Yeah, Lee's
little et cetera.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
Yeah. So at this point, election to county election officials
are working to identify the state paper says a who
the winning candidates are, b whether or not they're eligible
to actually serve and see are they willing to serve?
How would you like to get that phone call? Uh,
mister Thompson, Uh, you know you have won an election. Huh.

Speaker 4 (52:22):
I wasn't running yet.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
What Yeah, you know you've got four write in votes
or whatever.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
I mean, I'd probably feel honored in a sense that
you know that many people for whenever to the number.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Your first question, how much is it pay? Well? How
much tip is going to consume?

Speaker 4 (52:40):
That's why they call it public sir?

Speaker 2 (52:42):
Public service? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (52:43):
Yeah, speaking of I don't know if you have another
election story or not. Did you see the Casey results?
You know, out of all the issues, you're having a
k Cy City council and two seats turned over. Not
only did two seats and over, and there are two
new voices, but both voices are women women's voices. So

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suddenly you have with the mayor you have three women
and two men.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
So you've you've got a majority.

Speaker 4 (53:13):
Drastically changed the dynamics of that council and we'll see
if it improves.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Not have to go back. I mean, we're any of
the council members who lost seats where they kind of
tied to this whole investigation about whether or not they
were trying to you know, things you know, may are
more power than their former government allows.

Speaker 4 (53:36):
I think in a lot of cases it was essentially
four against one.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (53:40):
Yeah, so okay, Well hopefully it improves the dynamics.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Let's hope. So, yeah, yeah, because a lot of great
things are happening in case aside from their government or
in spite of you might say, New York City Zoe
Ranman Dami heading to a city hall after his victory
on Tuesday. But is he going to face some problems here?
Remember this guy wants to give stuff away. Only way

(54:06):
you can do that is to raise taxes on people
who are actually working and making money and not getting handouts.
The problem here is Kathy Hokeel has rejected raising taxes
in New York statewide. This is going to set up
an interesting battle between Mom Donnie and Hogel. I you can't,

(54:29):
you know, throw up city owned grocery stores. You can't
apply universal childcare to all, and that's a lot of
alls in New York City. Yeah, or free buses without
raising taxes, and Hocal's dead set against that.

Speaker 4 (54:48):
He'll figure out a way.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Oh yeah, tax the rich was the chance at that
rally the other night after he claimed victory. Oh and
by the way, how different itly is he Apparently his
era is started with well enlisting a bunch of Democrat
Party insiders, not socialist Democrat Party insiders. Democrat Party insiders

(55:09):
to helping the uh the changeover. One person he won't
have is the fire commissioner Robert Tucker, who resigned yesterday morning.
Tucker is Jewish, having none of that. California Republicans say, though,
sue to stop a Newsome's redistricting scheme, Well, good luck
with that.

Speaker 4 (55:30):
The people people just voted.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
They just voted on it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (55:33):
I mean, whether you like it or not, the people
have decided.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
The people have spoken. Don't see any way this is successful.
The death toll, Now to what twelve from that ups
crash in Louisville Muhammed Ali the airport the other day,
that huge fireball three of course three crew members on
board that that that that plane. But to other people

(55:56):
on the ground as it crashed into an industrial area
there or a warehouse area, apparently, I guess the one
of the engines just fell off the plane.

Speaker 4 (56:07):
That's what started it.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
Yeah, Oh wow, takeoff just fell off the plane.

Speaker 4 (56:12):
I mean, I will admit my first thought among after
seeing the headline was terrorism. I mean, yeah, I didn't
know it was a takeoff. I just saw explosion on
ups plane. And you're thinking, all right, did somebody smuggle
a package, a bombed package, or a package bomb on
that plane?

Speaker 2 (56:33):
All those packages? Sure?

Speaker 4 (56:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (56:35):
And Alabama where a judge is rejecting calls from prosecutors
and members of the community to increase the bond for
a man charged with attempted murder. He's out of jail
right now. This goes back to an incident back in
the first part of October after a college football game
in Montgomery, Alabama. Two people were killed, twelve were injured

(56:59):
in this shooting, of which this particular suspect was just
apparently a couple of people they think was involved in
the shooting. But you have a mass shooting injuring wounding, twelve,
killing two, and this guy has bond set at sixty
thousand dollars and he's out on the streets right now.
Are you kidding me? Wow? What does it take? What

(57:26):
does it take in Montgomery, Alabama to keep somebody behind bars?
Apparently more than being charged with killing two and wounding twelve.

Speaker 4 (57:34):
You need to study that judge's record, right