Texas ONE WIN AWAY from Softball National Championship! Breaking down the Longhorns' win over Texas Tech

Craig Way and Cameron Parker break down the Texas Longhorns' 2-1 win over the Texas Tech Red Raiders in Game 1 of the WCWS Finals. They discuss the comeback victory, THAT obstruction call, and Nijaree Canady's blunder to Reese Atwood.

Texas Softball broadcaster Andrew Haynes joins the show to discuss everything and his reaction from the booth. Plus, hear from coaches and players in their post game press conference following the instant classic in OKC.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Game one of the best of three Weapen's College World
Series Championship Series. Good evening from Devon Park in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.
One one rounded left side, Mia Scott up with it,
goes to plate for one on the first It's.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
A double play.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Five, two, three.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
They get the force at the plate and then Reese
Atwood on the money.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
To first base.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Let's come on another two to two, rounded by Johnson
to the left side and Mia Scott lunging to her
left able to track that down and fire on the
first for out number one. Scott has been a defensive
stalwart for the Longhorns this year, and especially here at
the World Series.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Here's the two and two they had that hit Stuart
it did.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
It clipped her in the lake, and so they're indeed
the first base runner for the Longhorns. You were hit
by the pitch in a two to two count with
two out, only the fourth time she's been hit by
a pitch this year.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Again, one and two, swing and miss.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
The changeup gets Tony for out number two. Here in
the third first strikeout for Cavan. Here's the pitch, soft
line drive past the diving shortstop Tony into left field,
and the Longhorns have their first hit with two out
in the third, Kennedy to the plate high and off
the glove of the catcher Baldez. There goes Maloday to second,

(01:36):
so the Longhorns get a runner in scoring position for
the first time. Three two pay off pitch waved that
and missed, and Cavan gets Kennedy for a second time.
Second strikeout of the game for Teagan. Cavon another two
line shot in the left field, coming over toward the line.
Stuart reaches over and makes the catch right on the
foul line and that's out number one, one one. There's

(02:01):
pitch taken for a strike runner going through a second
in plenty of time rees out what guns are down
and Jerry Glasgow is going to challenge something. I wonder
if they thought that Jolie Mitchell got in the way
of Holloman trying to steal the bat.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Here's the ruling.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Oh my goodness, So Holloman is safe on second team
steals in twenty tries this year. Davis sends it in
the air right center field on the move. Ashmon Maloney
won't get to it, and the overturned call gives.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Texas Tech a run ouch.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Jam shot just in the perfect spot where neither Maloney
nor Henry could make the catch.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Texas tech on the board here in the fifth it
remains one and two on Henry Kennedy back on the rubber.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Right hander to the play wine drive, this time a
fair ball one hof in front of the left fielder
elder So Cadan with a two out hit here in
the sixth, and the Longhorns had their second hits, only
their third base runner of the game against Kennedy. First

(03:12):
pitch taken for a strike ro down to second on
a steal and Caden's in there no need for an
obstruction call to throw a little off to the side
and the Longhorns have the potential tying run in scoring
position and the ball's two strikes to count. The pitch
Mia a soft five ball in the infield on an
off speed pitch. He's gonna beat that out. Second baseman

(03:35):
laying lears charging it was playing back and picked it
up on a hot behind the circle off to the
right side of the circle, So another hit for Texas.
Henry stopped on third base there that would.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
The next pitch hits the ball into left veil.

Speaker 5 (03:51):
She swung at the pitch that was close to the zone.
Two run score. Texas takes the lead.

Speaker 6 (03:57):
A boss moment from Attwood, a three to zero intention
to be outside for ball four, and she hits it
in the left for a base hit.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Three and two with a runner on first, one out
in the seventh inning of one run Texas League Chigans
path pitch strike three right on the second, Oh, come
on cut the throw strike three call to ring her
up for out number two. The ball's two strikes outfield,

(04:28):
straight up, medium depth, the infields creeping in a step
or two O two pitch pop up right side Jolie
Mitchell along the first baseline foul territory puts it away
and Texas is one win from a national championship.

Speaker 7 (04:44):
That's how it unfolded. And one a night and not
only what a night, uh what a way for a
game one of the National Championship Series to go down.
Loghorns are in the Championship Series and one went away

(05:07):
from winning their first ever softball National championship. Get afternoon,
everybody walked into the program here on thirteen under the zone.
My name is Craig Way. Glad to have you with
US police as always to be joined by the producer
of this program, who did such an outstanding job not
only producing the broadcast of last night's Texas to one
come from behind winever Texas Tech in the Women's College

(05:29):
World Series, but then expertly crafted the highlight montage that
you just heard.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
It's Cameron D. Parker.

Speaker 7 (05:36):
The D and the birth certificate stands for Dallas as
in being named for his dad's favorite pro football team
and his that he's not really paying much attention to
these days. I think the D stands for disbelief a
lot of how that game went last night, from a

(05:57):
horribly adjudicated call on the field that went against Texas
to the amazing turn of events with their best player
who hadn't had a hit in the entire Women's College
World Series coming through and Resat went on a three
tozero pitch going as many people post on social media,

(06:18):
Kelly Leak from Bad News Bear swinging on the three
to zero pitch, knocking it past the diving shortstop to
bring in the two runs of Texas gets the two winders. Okay,
so you were here as the studio producer for that
broadcast last night, but were you amazed by as you
heard Andrew Haynes calling it. And Andrew, by the way,

(06:40):
is going to join us in the three o'clock hour
to recap that and look at it. But were you
amazed at how as you listen to this, how this
whole thing unfolded.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
I was in. I'll start with the obstruction call because
you know, in sports, whenever you have a review, and
you have about fifteen per game now, it feels like
you cannot have a game without some sort of review.
And I get it. We want to make sure all
the calls are correct, and sometimes they're incorrect, but you know,
it does disrupt the momentum, the rhythm, the flow of
a game. And so after Reesatwood throughout the runner Hellman

(07:14):
and it was like, okay, she was out by a mile.
And then Glasgow came out to review it. And as
soon as Andrews said they're going to review this, like, uh, oh, okay,
what is this about? And remember earlier in the Women's
College World Series when Tech played Ole Miss, something like
this exactly happened on a runner that was gunned down

(07:35):
trying to go home and then came back to third base.
She was out again by a mile. But because Ole
Miss's third basement had her toe on the foul ball line.
It was considered obstruction. So obviously Coach Glasgow and Texas
Tech staff were very well, very well aware of this
role and we're aware how the officials were going to

(07:56):
call it. So you got to give Glasgow credit for knowing, Okay,
they're going to go exactly textbook by the roles here
then technically sure into obstruction, but for us watching it
and even the ESPN telecast, they're saying, no way, Like
what are we This is a stupid review. I think
I texted a friend like, what are you reviewing here? Dude?
But then you know the review once it takes longer

(08:18):
than like thirty seconds, because there was a second review
right later on for Construction that took about what fifteen
seconds in and out? After about thirty seconds a minute
of this review, you're thinking, uh oh something, something's up
here reminded me? Sorry Cowboys fans. And then where we're
going the Dead's catch right where it's like, hey, how
is this work for you taking so long? Well, it's

(08:39):
because it was going to be overturned enrolled now to catch.
So I had a bad feeling about that. I think
Texas fans did as well, and of course the obstruction
called happens. Tech gets the RBI single under and run
against taking Kevan. But you know the way this team
has battled all year long. I think back to the
Super Regionals and there wins again. Clemson didn't have you know,

(09:01):
they were down, you know, weren't down. But Clemson again,
you know, had what two runners in scoring position, no
out too, consticking Cavan and somehow Texas won that game.
I felt like this team was going to win it.
And honestly, Craig, I think it's because it was Texas Tech.
It feels like it was Oklahoma. You're thinking, Okay, that
was it, that was your shot. Oklahoma's going to close
this game out because it's Oklahoma. Texas Tech. I don't know,

(09:24):
you know, will face your alma mater that you were
there for a semester.

Speaker 7 (09:27):
I was there for all the one sister Yea, even Kennedy, Yeah,
well you know, she she had some I mean, you
know this game was going to be either one nothing
or two to one or two nothing, right, and she
pitched excellent obviously, and then of course you know what
happened in the six is we'll talk about, but you
know her impacted the plate though I don't.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
I don't. I don't know if Texas Tech has enough
depth to replace her. But think about it. She had
the five two three double plays, she hid in two
in the first inning, and uh Cavan only had three strikeouts.
She was two of those. And then of course she
had the botched intentional walk in the sixth inning that
allowed Texas to come back. So for someone makes a

(10:07):
lot of money like that, and you got it. And
the reason she's not in the Women's Collegible Series Finals
without Tech is not there without her. But at the
same time, she did make a couple of mistakes last
night that did hurt Texas Tech despite giving up what
three hits in the game? Was it three hits? I
think they got four hits. Okay, yeah, four hits, yeah,
because Attwood was considered a hit and then Mia Scott

(10:29):
and then uh said Katy Henry. Katy Henry had one
the seventh and then bea Scotty. Yeah, Maloney had one
earlier in the game. So but we know she'll be
back on the mound today and so hey, sometimes sports
provides great comeback stories. So we'll see if she can
deliver again tonight and Tech can force a game three,
or if that'll be kind of like you know, I

(10:52):
think about another sports reference here, Craig. It is a
sports talk show Cavaliers and Warriors Game one of the
twenty seventeen Finals, when it felt like the Cavaliers were
overmatched against Golden State and now team won, and well
the year after the year after when they signed Kevin Durant.
In Game one, they're going back and forth and Cleveland

(11:12):
has a chance to win the game. In JR. Smith
does not realize that the game is tied, that it's
tied and not Cleveland up won. So instead of calling
a time out, you hold onto the ball and it
forces overtime and Cleveland go on to lose that game
in ot and Lebron lost his mind. There's that famous
meme Lebron with his hands outstretched looking at Jr. Like
what are you doing?

Speaker 7 (11:30):
It might be one of that moment he went Derek
Carper and for those who don't remember that, google at
nineteen eighty four Mavericks Lakers first time Evericks in the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
I was there at arena, sitting there pretty good.

Speaker 7 (11:43):
Seek me and my brother could not believe Derek Carper
dribbling out regulation like they win it overtime to go
up three games to one.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
I think it was twenty actually twenty eighteen Wars Cavs.
But my point being is that that at Cleveland there
was no chain they're going to win that series. If
they could not win game one and they had a
shot to win it, they lost it, and they lost
the series in what for five games for Texas Tech,
would it be like that was your shot to win it.

(12:11):
You're up one nothing against Texas. You couldn't close them out.
Now you got to win tonight to force a game three.
But I don't know. If you're a Texas fan, you
feel pretty good about your chances of taking it home
because you have a little bit more pitching depth and
you know Kennedy's going to have to somehow pitch even
better tonight to hold off Texas. So what a fun
game last night, A great broadcast from Andrew Haynes. Again

(12:33):
if you if you want to listen tonight Retro Austin
in the free iHeart Radio app six forty five air
time seven o'clock. First pitched last night is like seven
oh six seven o eight. So it wasn't wasn't too bad.
But I mean when when Convan and Kennedy you're pitching
each with other egos quickly, it's it's it's a quick
except for the first ending when when Tech had a
chance to base his load to nobody out. Yeah, just

(12:54):
like Clemson almost. Yeah. Besides that, you know, there was
real no threats until, of course the obstruction call and
in bottom the six.

Speaker 7 (13:02):
Well, here's here's I'll tell you what. We're gonna take
a break when we come back and give you my
thoughts on all of this, the the obstruction and then
the and then Atwood's hit, and then we're gonna hear
from Texas Tech. We're gonna hear from their press conference
after the game with Jerry Glasgow with UH Nigerie in

(13:26):
addition to uh Naija also uh in addition to Kennedy,
also hearing from I think it was my is it
Henry the one who had had the had the base
hit to Giveneley and she had two hits off the
teak in Cavana, including one on the first pitch of
the of the game where she drove one in the

(13:46):
left field. So we're gonna hear from them Uh. In
the we'll have inconceivable even as some of that game.
Maya Davis, we're gonna hear from Maya Davis. H M
I H y I I Yeah, Bya Davis. She was
at the press conference along with Nisia Kennedy and also

(14:07):
a head coach, Jerry Glasgow. So we're gonna hear from
them coming up here their thoughts on all of that
hout unfolded. We do have inconceivable this hour, next hour.
Andrew Haynes, who called that Texas victory, will join us
in the next hour. In the four clock hour, we'll
hear from the Texas side of things their their news

(14:28):
conference after so we'll get the lie. But there's a
lot of other things we're gonna get to as well.
NBA Finals start tonight in Oklahoma City. As they say,
it's the epicenter of sports right now.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
So, uh so Mayor David Holton, who was tweeting with
that last night.

Speaker 7 (14:43):
Yeah, yeah, So there's that Stanley Cup Finals had an
epic game last night. So for game one, so we'll
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(15:05):
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Speaker 8 (15:26):
It's the Craigway Show with the voice of the Texas
Longhorns and Hall of Fame broadcaster Craig Way.

Speaker 7 (15:49):
Here on this Thursday afternoon, as Texas comes off that
just amazing uh game, let alone victory. The game itself
was just kind of wild and how it ultimately played

(16:09):
out for the Longhorns and they come from behind winover Texas.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
Tech last night.

Speaker 7 (16:15):
Here's some Here's some things to to to keep in
mind about all of this. And uh, I understand there
are a lot of first time or at least had
watched very little collegiate sawball viewers out there who were
watching last night's game, and a lot of them were

(16:44):
not only curious about stuff, but completely confused about some things.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
That's the best part if when you have a sport,
Craig where no one watches during the regular season. They've
only watched the playoffs or the championship and everyone's got
their points. Why did they do that for?

Speaker 7 (16:59):
Well, yeah, you're right, and and you know you know
where that also happens a bit.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
The NHL. Oh yeah, the Stanley Cup Finals. I don't
I don't watch hockey in the regular season. Watch I'm
so you're trying to figureut what icing is here in
the game one the Stelegap finals here.

Speaker 7 (17:17):
If it's a very nuanced definition, let me put it
to you that way. But there's a lot of there
are a lot of questions because folks just you know,
don't understand, don't don't know the rule and things like that,
and why is this done like this? Okay, one of

(17:38):
the things I'm about to say are echo some things
that I've said with regard to women's basketball and men's basketball,
because a lot of people have questions, so what are
the women's games this and the men's game is that?
And they don't have First of all, don't go overboard.

Speaker 4 (17:55):
Let me put it that way.

Speaker 7 (17:56):
Don't go overboard in your comp harrisons of the sports
and the way they align men's basketball women's basketball very
similar in most elements, but not in all elements, and
baseball and softball, there are quite a few differences on that,

(18:17):
but I would caution you to refrain from too much
of the heavy duty comparisons. What is it, Michael taff says,
comparisons or a thief of the thief of joy?

Speaker 4 (18:26):
You know, I heard that recently from somebody too. It
was all Sports Center, really, Michael Eaves, who wasn't No,
it was was, you're gonna love this.

Speaker 7 (18:38):
In case anybody didn't notice, the Rockies won again last night.
They swept the series for the Marlins. They were nine
and fifty and now they're twelve and fifty.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
So j the worst start since eighteen seventy one.

Speaker 7 (18:52):
Yeah, yeah, something like, Yeah, it was really awful. Grant
was the president of state exactly, and but they they
ended up sweeping the Marlins and Sports Center.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
I bless their hearts.

Speaker 7 (19:08):
There's a lot, there's a lot that ESPN does that
I just find incredibly distasteful. But they still do a
lot of good things with and and one of the
best things they still do when they do it right.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
At Sports Center. And they had.

Speaker 7 (19:26):
Before Colorado had the three wins, Uh, they had it
or maybe they'd only had one win or something in
the series. They had a comparison chart up in the
month of May and how Scotti Scheffler had more wins
in the month than the Rockies did.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
It was great, it was great.

Speaker 7 (19:47):
It was like three wins versus one and three verses
two and so now they did there's something like that.
So they they had that up there, and so they
were doing the compare they they were doing because the Rockies,
and I salute him for having the sense of humor.
After they went again, the Rockies Twitter account or x
account had a comparison that said wins in the past

(20:12):
three days or something like that, Rockies three, Scottie Scheffler none,
And Scotty probably got a big laugh out about it
if somebody pointed it out.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
To where he saw it. I hope someone will ask
him about it next week the US Open. Yeah, I'll
be asking you about as non conforming driver probably, yeah, yeah, yeah, right.
So it was, but it was it was really funny.
It was the Rockies Twitter account that tweeted that out.
So but above that, they.

Speaker 7 (20:36):
Had a banner of it said comparisons are the thief
of joy. Talking about the comparing that with with Scotty Scheffler.
So back to my point, I would just caution people
who get a little too worked up in comparing the
two sports. Here's what I always said about women's basketball
versus men's basketball, since I called them both and I
enjoy calling both. And there was a time that I

(20:57):
did Texas saltball as well, but we didn't. We did
not broadcast every Texas softball game back in the early
two thousands, when Kat Osterman was pitching. We would pick
like ten games during the regular season and broadcast those games,
and then as it worked out, we would do as
many of the postseason games as possible. I called a
perfect game she threw in a regional against UMass, and

(21:22):
called Women's College World Series games that she pitched in.
That cat pitched in another long the first ever Texas
Women's College World Series game. I called that in nineteen
ninety eight, when Christi Williams had pitched. They lost one
nothing to Michigan. Was heartbreaking in that so, but we
didn't do all the games back then. Well now, over

(21:42):
the past few years, obviously we've added the entire schedule.
We broadcast every single game. Well, clearly I knew with
my responsibilities with late season men's and women's basketball in
February going into March. February, March plus long worn baseball,
that I just not would not be fair to log
RN softball to do a game here and a game

(22:04):
there and get a whole convoy of guys to sub
in that. It made more sense to have somebody who
could be there for every single game. And that's where
Andrew Haynes stepped in eight years ago. This is his
ninth season, and he's done a fine job and they
really appreciate him and like him and everything. So, but
when I was doing softball, I would tell people, don't

(22:27):
overcompare it too much with baseball. They're different games. Same
thing with women's basketball men's basketball. There's different games, there's
different strategies, and yes, there are also different rules in place.
There's different rules in place in the women's game from
the men's game, but especially in baseball versus softball. And

(22:50):
one of those rules is the rule with regard to
the intentional walk. And I'll get back to that in
a moment, but I want to go to the interference call.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
First.

Speaker 7 (23:02):
Interference is of very an obstruction is a very open
to interpretation type of rule. It's a judgment call. Did
I think that leanne good in any way, shape or
form interfere with Hollman the base runer attempts, of course not.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
She was out by three four feet. It wasn't. That
was never a question.

Speaker 7 (23:33):
The problem is not so much in what the ruling
turned out to be. The problem is in the rule,
the way the rule is written. That whole thing about
foot in the baseline. Well, I thought Jessica Mendoza did
a fine job when she was Almostcott van Pelt afterwards

(23:54):
explaining all this. The broadcasters who did the game kind
of disappointed me. Now I know Beth Moens owner a
long time and heard her call, but to have two
softball Olympians in the booths with them and none of
them could accurately explain it. And then when they brought
in the rules analyst, and like you said, cam once

(24:14):
it started taking time, and the rules analysts I think
gave us the real hint when she said, well, you know,
it's about that foot in the line, and there it is.
And when the slide, I thought, you're really going to
go there. They're really going to stretch it out to that.
And then I realized that's how that rule is written.
But it's so poorly written. You know, about going into

(24:39):
the slide, we do You're gonna do like Charlie Brown
and slide twenty feet away from the bag and say, well,
she was going into the slide of course not. There
has to be like a halo or a cone area,
say within you know, two feet of the bag itself,
you know, or something like that, and the absurd.

Speaker 4 (24:59):
So that was it.

Speaker 7 (25:00):
The biggest problem is the way in which the rule
is written. What you know, the call on the field
was correct. She was out the umpires for people getting
the umber. The umpires made the right call. The interpretation
once Coach Glasgow then you know, challenged it once he

(25:22):
did that. Okay, you can see what happened there when
so so that was so that was one thing and
then the other thing, the deal with Atwood. Here's here's
where the rule thing comes in. En softball, you do
have to make the pitch to the catcher. You have
to make the pitch. It's not like it is in baseball.

(25:43):
You said we're going to put them on. And for
folks who say why why is that? For reasons, just
like last night, you have to be at that short
distance at what is it forty three and a third
feet I believe forty three and a half feet at
that distance in the circle. In that distance, you have
to be able to execute the pitch. So you have

(26:08):
to be able to do that. Yeah, forty three feet
forty three feet, Okay. The problem is twofold.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
One.

Speaker 7 (26:14):
They never asked Nigerie Kennedy to intentionally walk anybody, so
that was that was out of sorts. For two, the
catcher's not far enough away. Catcher needed to be further out,
and so the pitch is coming in and I saw
some angry tech fans posting those were strikes. Those were no,
they were not strikes because they were high. They were
over the plate, but they were high. That's why they

(26:38):
weren't strikes. And that was something that was ignored by
those people were saying that, yes, it went over the plate,
but it went over it was above the strike zone.

Speaker 4 (26:49):
That's why they were bossed.

Speaker 7 (26:50):
But she just threw it too close and that's why
at what was able to tomahawk it, much like what
Kelly Leek did and the bad News bears and again
going back to supports or something showed us MOK. Miguel
Cabrera did it for the Marlins, and Andrew mentioned that
in his call last night. Actually did he really well
making difference. He did it in six in a game
against the Orioles while playing for the Marlins on a

(27:13):
three to zero count.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
So there's precedent for it.

Speaker 7 (27:19):
But you can bet now it's if the situation comes
up again for Nijia Kennedy, they'll they'll have a way
the words around that. Okay, we need to take a break.
We'll come back with him and said, we are still
going to get you that Texas Tech Press Conference.

Speaker 4 (27:32):
We're going to do that.

Speaker 7 (27:33):
We're going to push it back a little bit, but
we're going to bring you that Tech Press conference and
the Texas Press Conference. We're also going to visit with
Andrew Haynes. We'll do all of that and more inconceivable
up next on thirteen under the Zone. Second hour of
the program here on thirteen under the Zone, Craig Way,
the producer Cameron Parker long, So I'm glad to have
your participation as well on the text line. Certainly glad

(27:57):
to take those questions and a lot of questions about
that obstruction call. Somebody else said, Uh, what about being
in the bass path for a rundown? By that rule,
players couldnot be in the bass path?

Speaker 4 (28:11):
Is that wrong?

Speaker 7 (28:14):
In a rundown situation, you establish your path to it
if you step out of your running lane. Once you
establish that path, once you step out of the running lane,
then you're in violation of the rule at that point.
That's how that rule goes down. So anyway, and then
with regard to the Marty McFly guitar, that's that's here's

(28:37):
the quote and somebody put it up there. It's a
blues riff, and be stay with me for the changes
and try to keep up when he's doing. Johnny B good,
It was really really good on that. Okay, we want
to go ahead and bring you this first.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
Now.

Speaker 7 (28:50):
Andrew Haynes, you know, the play by play voice of
long Nsawfle was going to join us coming up here
in a few minutes. But there was so much talk
about two things, the obstruction rule and then the other
being the decision for Texas tech head coach Jerry Glasgow

(29:10):
to instruct Nigerie Kennedy to walk Reese Atwood and Reese
would later say, and you'll hear it next hour the
first pitch. If you look at the replay, that first
pitch is like down the heart of the plate. It's high,
so that's why it's a ball, but it's right over
the plate and that kind of really put the idea
into her mind about getting one to hit. So that

(29:34):
was the biggest part of the discussion from the tech
perspective with them taking a law. So here is the
press conference with Nijia Davis, obviously, Naya Davis, obviously, Nigerie Kennedy,
and the head coach, Jerry Glasgow, who had the opening statement.

Speaker 9 (29:57):
I thought it was a tremendous night. The weather, it
was gorgeous, to the crowd was fantastic. It was just a
great setting to play a National Championship game in.

Speaker 10 (30:06):
It has been all week.

Speaker 9 (30:07):
I think the stadium and the way it's grown, the
way it's exploded, and the way Oklahoma se has put
it on first class has really been fantastic.

Speaker 10 (30:17):
I thought it was again tonight. As far as the game.

Speaker 9 (30:21):
I thought it was two teams with great pitching and
and you know, battled it out. I thought we missed
a couple opportunities to get a run. It could have
been really, really, really big I put another run.

Speaker 10 (30:34):
Or two on.

Speaker 9 (30:36):
I thought Naja pitched tremendous ball game, seven strikeouts, no walks.
I thought, I thought she was really really good, and
we just to me, the difference in the game was
we didn't We didn't put the game away.

Speaker 10 (30:51):
We had the game won nothing.

Speaker 9 (30:53):
But you know, a team like Texas with a that
great offense and that must speed in ways they can
put the ball in play, it'll eventually catch if you
just let them hanging around one night, I ain't feel
urgency to put the game away, and I think we
missed an opportunity or two that not on purpose, but
we just missed an opportunity or two that proved pivotal
in the end. And then we get two out in

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the sixth I believe. I thought the first line drive,
I thought we could have been aggressive and made that
catch pretty Easy's something we've talked about all year. How
important is to be able to dive for balls and
tack balls. I thought that was a play that should
have been made, a routine play. And then the next
ball was a ball in front of the second basement.
I have to look and we were out of position.
I was kind of surprised when it fell. I felt

(31:38):
like that ball was a little pop up and I'm
assuming we were deep, but I have to look at that.
So then you got two runners on and we made
the decision to walk out Wood, and I guess we
had a ball that was close enough she could get
her bat on it, and I think she hit it.

Speaker 10 (31:55):
We was won't expecting.

Speaker 9 (31:56):
But with all that said, they got two runs and
we lost two to on. I thank you, and you
got to give her credit to Atwood there. She wanted
to play ball, she wanted to make a play, and
she made a difference in the game at a time
when we were trying to take her out of the game.
And I think that's really a huge thing when you
look at the game, is you know, you could see,

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you could see when people wanted to really make plays,
and you can see when people when athletes were more tentative.

Speaker 10 (32:26):
And I think you got tip had to Texas.

Speaker 9 (32:28):
They were really aggressive at the end and they got
to win two to one.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
Okay, let's start questions for players second or right.

Speaker 11 (32:35):
Jake, Jake Chatter espn Nija, I believe that was your
first intentional walk and tip all season. Could you take
us through the challenge of trying to execute that play
in this type of setting.

Speaker 12 (32:49):
Yeah, there's no challenge.

Speaker 10 (32:51):
I made that mistake.

Speaker 12 (32:52):
I think that loss is on me, and I apologize
to my team.

Speaker 13 (32:58):
More questions for players, okayble go second? Are right to
Cliff down to?

Speaker 4 (33:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (33:07):
A cliff run associated press, Nija. I understand that you're
fighting through a leg injury.

Speaker 10 (33:13):
So for the physical standpoint, how are you feeling?

Speaker 14 (33:16):
Then from a mental standpoint having to bounce back and
likely throw tomorrow, where are you physically?

Speaker 4 (33:21):
Where are you mentally? I'm fine.

Speaker 12 (33:24):
I have all summered a rest, so I'm ready to
play softball.

Speaker 15 (33:28):
Okay, a good front row left Thomas Jones, Austin American Statesman,
Nija or my if y'all cancer coaches always talked about
let's flush this game, let's get to the next one.
Is that harder to do in the setting knowing what's
at stake tomorrow?

Speaker 4 (33:45):
Honestly, No.

Speaker 12 (33:45):
It's been our model all year to be the best
come from come from behind team in America.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
So we're just doing that again.

Speaker 10 (33:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (33:52):
I think this is good for us to know, like
feel how bad this hurts and don't want to happen.

Speaker 10 (33:58):
A game.

Speaker 4 (34:00):
Can we go back right corner?

Speaker 17 (34:02):
Holly Roe, ESPN.

Speaker 10 (34:03):
This is for both players.

Speaker 17 (34:05):
What are some of the mental conditioning tools and things
that you've been working on all season to reset quickly
after a disappointment that you apologize to your team? How
do you reset quickly and how have you been trained
to do that this season?

Speaker 12 (34:18):
I think just knowing that this is just s game one.
We still have two more games to two more games
to play, so it's not like they won one game.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
They didn't win the whole battle.

Speaker 16 (34:26):
Just have a short memory, just sleep on it, let
it go, come back tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (34:32):
Can we go front row left?

Speaker 18 (34:34):
David call your ABC Lovewick for you maya as frustrating
as the loss is, you had a great night at
the plate. Can you discuss what will well for you?

Speaker 15 (34:44):
Well?

Speaker 16 (34:45):
It feels good to come out of the little slump
that I had and to finally do my job for
the team, because that's I haven't been doing that, so
it feels good.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
Can we get front right right?

Speaker 19 (34:58):
Kirk Kirk Bowls from the Houston Chronicle NIGA. Can you
take us through the advass with Henry and Scott and
you know if you made a mistake or they just
got lucky hits or how would you term it?

Speaker 4 (35:13):
Yeah, those are good hitters. I don't know.

Speaker 12 (35:16):
I feel like they just put the ball in play.
They're a really good hitting team.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
Okay, we'll go second round. The right Lauren Rolla, the
athletic Nija. Can you confirm that that was your first
intentional walk called your college career, and if not, you
remember a time before that that was called as a
play for you?

Speaker 10 (35:33):
No, it was it.

Speaker 12 (35:34):
But also I'm a college pitcher on my junior now
I should be able to do that.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
So that's an excuse.

Speaker 13 (35:41):
Time for one more. All right, I'll wrap things up
for the players. Thank you, guys are dismissing. Okay, start
with the front row left here with David.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
Or David collor ABC loaded coach.

Speaker 18 (36:02):
Can you take us through the decision to go with
the intentional walk.

Speaker 4 (36:06):
Of that one?

Speaker 9 (36:08):
Yeah, you know, I don't want to with a base open.
I don't want to pitch to what I think may
be the best hitter in the country. You know, it
made sense to me, It made sense to load the bases.

Speaker 10 (36:20):
Let's go to the fore hole. Let's don't take a chest.

Speaker 9 (36:22):
You got clutch hit, I've clutch hit I've clutch hit
all her career, and.

Speaker 10 (36:28):
You know, maybe it's the wrong decision.

Speaker 9 (36:30):
Maybe we should have went at her, but I just
wanted to go to the fore hole with a basis
load and you've got to force out at every single base.
Anything gets miss hit, you got a little bit better
chance of having a play, I think, and make the
make the four hole beat you instead of the star
can't stay.

Speaker 20 (36:49):
Front or a let Brady Brady, Vernon, South America. Just
is that something that is practiced with Niga at all?
And intentionally walking and such?

Speaker 9 (36:59):
You know, I just told Terror, I said, well, if
we don't practice pitch uh intention to walk once a week,
maybe we learned something better write in our book for
next year. I really don't know how often they practiced it, uh,
And I really I'm sitting there listening. I didn't realize
there's the first intend to walk all year. You think
about it, I guess we haven't. You know, I know

(37:19):
we pitched around people, and maybe I should have just
said pitch around her, because we definitely have pitched around
several people this year, but we didn't stand up.

Speaker 10 (37:28):
And maybe it was a coach and ar on my part.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
Okay, stay front row.

Speaker 15 (37:34):
Left, Thoms Jones, Austin American statesman Jerry. Earlier in the week,
you said, I'm not going to go down, you know,
without having my best days in the circle. So are
you going to lean on Nasa tomorrow? We'll see how
she feels tomorrow. You know, she's got a lot left
in her career. I think first and foremost, we got

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to wake up tomorrow. We'll do pre game, We'll do
early hitting tomorrow. We didn't hit this morning.

Speaker 9 (38:00):
The girls said they were tired, they wanted the morning off,
and I'll let them have the morning off. But we
definitely will hit tomorrow morning and we'll see how everybody
feels at that. And if she doesn't feel good and
she don't want the ball, if you know Niger, she's
not going to complain. She's not going to tell you.
We're gonna have to. We'll have to really dig and

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hopefully the trainer can get her to, you know, to
communicate enough that he'll get a good assessment.

Speaker 10 (38:26):
But I think her.

Speaker 9 (38:28):
I want to win, but I also I want to
be sure we leave this season healthy for the future.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
Got in front of the right kirk.

Speaker 19 (38:36):
Yeah, Jerry, I don't know if you believe in momentum
or not? Or is it just you wipe it clean
and start over tomorrow. Do you feel like Texas is
a big age because they have a win?

Speaker 10 (38:44):
Yeah? No, the game definitely will start.

Speaker 9 (38:46):
The momentum absolutely is in Texas dugout now at the
beginning of the game, and the first couple of innings
are going to be critical for us to hold them
and at some point get the momentum into our dugout
early in the game tomorrow, as early as possible. And
it's going to take a really tough, resilient team to
come back.

Speaker 10 (39:07):
It always does.

Speaker 9 (39:09):
But if you can get one win and you get
you get the game three, anything as possible.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
Can we have time for two more? Front left? David?

Speaker 18 (39:17):
David called your ABC loved coach back back to the
intentional walk, not necessarily the walk, but was Hailey ready
for the pitch? It looked like Bailey was, but I
don't know it was Hailey ready for that.

Speaker 10 (39:28):
I have to watch the film, you know.

Speaker 9 (39:29):
Like I was walking down the hall, the isle of
the dugout, I didn't even I heard the bat, like
I hear him hit it.

Speaker 10 (39:37):
I wasn't even looking so I don't know. I mean,
you know, I don't know the answer.

Speaker 4 (39:45):
Okay, we got a second or right? Jay? Class one?

Speaker 11 (39:47):
Yeah, Jared, I think there have been some proposals to
to do a point and walk rule in college softball.
Given what happened and the impact it had on the game.

Speaker 4 (39:57):
What do you think of the rule?

Speaker 11 (39:58):
And then if you do go with nice tomorrow, how
do you think she's going to respond on the mountain.

Speaker 10 (40:03):
As far as the rule, I don't know. There's people
a lot smarter than I am, but could answer that.
I don't know. I think we should be able to
execute it. I don't think.

Speaker 4 (40:14):
I don't.

Speaker 9 (40:14):
I don't think we should change the rule. Maybe that's
why you don't want to change the rule, because something
like that can happen. So I don't it's above Jerry
Glascow's pace Gale to answer that question. As far as
Naja tomorrow, if you got to pick a picture in
America to come back and win two games in a
row with, I'll take nausea.

Speaker 10 (40:33):
And I hate it.

Speaker 9 (40:34):
You know, our offense when I look after our first
two hit it role for eighteen and you know that's
what I'm really frustrated about. That's just really you get this.
Just we work this hard for the season. You don't
want to see your hitter go for eighteen. But if
if anybody can do what we need to do to

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come back out, I thrilled to have Nae do it.

Speaker 4 (41:01):
There it is Jerry Glasgow, the head coach at Texas Tech. Up.

Speaker 7 (41:05):
Next, we'll talk about that game and the one tonight
to come with Andrew Haynes, who will call it for us.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
You're listening to the Craig wat Show on thirteen. Under
the zone that was the.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Next pitch, hits the ball in the left field.

Speaker 5 (41:17):
She swung at the pitch. Those posts of the zone
twill run score. Texas takes the lead.

Speaker 6 (41:23):
A boss moment from Attwood, a three to zero intention
to be outside for a ball four and she hits
it in the left for a base.

Speaker 7 (41:33):
Hit, and that proved to be the needed hit for
the long Horns to win last night two to one
in Game one of the National Championship Series. Continue here
on thirteen under the other man who called that had
that call and the call of the final out for
the Texas long Horns, and of course the voice of
Long Horns saw Paul Andrew Haynes joins us on the hotline. Okay,

(41:54):
I love the call. Tell me what a boss moment means?

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Who else does that?

Speaker 7 (42:01):
I mean, you're right, She's a boss, right, He's the
boss man.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
No one else Miguel Cabrera Hall of Famer, does that?

Speaker 7 (42:09):
Yes, yes, yeah, Kelly Leak bad news bears right, Yeah,
that kind of thing. It was good stuff. Hey, before
we get going about the game and stuff. You did
make it the Nicks grill I saw from the photo, right.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
I did. I did good stuff. Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 7 (42:25):
Did you have to wait long because it's a little place.

Speaker 10 (42:28):
You know.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
I was able to grab a seat right away, and
they as I walked in, asked me, Hey, just want
to BURGERM fries and that's I mean, that's all It's
on the menu, it looks like. So I said yes,
and they had already in ten to fifteen minutes and
it wasn't too bad.

Speaker 4 (42:44):
Excellent, Okay, all right, very good.

Speaker 7 (42:46):
I'm curious to get your thoughts on a number of
things about the what I like to refer to as
the extemporaneous quality of the game itself and the way
things unfolded. First of all, Texas and taking Kavan able
to wriggle off the hook in the top of the
first and get the double play and then get out
of that thing, and then the two sides just kind

(43:07):
of settled in until the fifth inning and then of
course the controversy of the call itself. But before we
get to that, just the way that the game started
unfolding to the first four innings. What was your take
as the game continued to roll on after Texas was
able to get out of trouble in that top half
of the first inning.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
Yeah, you know, after they got out of trouble and
then things just started to move along, it really felt like, yeah,
this is what was expected, you know too, all Americans
going out in the circle. And you know, maybe the
Longhorns didn't quite have as many hits as I expected
them to get. They did get I think eight hits
against Kennedy early in the season in the extra inning
game they played, but overall, for the most part, it

(43:49):
really felt like it was is going to be a
two to one game. That is what the feeling was
going in and that's what it felt like.

Speaker 7 (43:55):
Before Now we get to the fifth inning, and I
thought you had a really accurate description about you know,
it looked for sure like Olin was, you know, dead
to rights there and and uh LeeAnne Good did her
job and put the tag on hers. He's well away
from the bag, like I said, it's an easy out.
And and then you stopped and we all stopped, and

(44:17):
I heard you say your first speculation was where they
trying to challenge something from Jolie Mitchell at first base.
So I can only imagine the other amazement and surprise
from me. And I heard you say, you know, my
goodness when when they came up with the call they
came up.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
With, Yeah, it was a shock and I think, I
think Cam, you know, he was sending me a little
info and he said that ESPN said they were reviewing
the call at second and uh, like, clearly the runner
was out there was you know, no, no, we have

(44:53):
stands or butts. So I was, I was shocked that
they were reviewing in the first place, and even more
stunned I got overturned, like you know that this off
ball rules for obstruction have been a mess for a
couple of years, and you know, a little hint for
today's pregame show actually asked Mike about it. He explained
it a little bit and said, you know, technically, under

(45:13):
the rules it probably was the case, but they kind
of need to even tighten the rules a little more.

Speaker 4 (45:18):
Yeah, I think that's what I said earlier.

Speaker 7 (45:20):
So the problem is the rule itself, because first of all,
the umpires made the right call in the field and
calling the runner out, and then upon going to review,
the thing that started to make me feel uneasy was
when ESPN called in the rules analyst and she brought
up the thing about the foot in the base path.
And then and then I think Beth Moens did say, well,
if she's stepping to feel the play, to put to

(45:43):
put it down, to put the tag down. So anyway,
it got into this guessing game back and then when
the when the rules analyst said it's fifty to fifty,
I thought, really fifty fifty and and so, and I
was a little bit you kind of just explained one
thing to me. I was just a little bit dismayed

(46:03):
at how you know, Beth Mowens has called hundreds of
softball games, She's got two Olympians in the booths with it,
and none of them really seemed to know the exact
adjudication of how that rule works. And as you pointed out,
and you said, Mike White got into a little more
detail about it, but you said, the rules itself about
obstruction have been kind of a mess the last couple

(46:25):
of years.

Speaker 10 (46:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
You know, when they first started replay twenty twenty two
to twenty three ish, the rule was written for obstruction,
so that basically anytime it mostly happened at home plate,
anytime the fielder was in the path of the runner
at all with the ball without they were called for obstruction.
And certain coaches, including one who resides up in Stillwater,

(46:48):
took a very wide view of it and got a
lot of overturned calls on it, and you know, it
just ended up in a case where I think after
that they ended up tightening it a little bit. And
so last year, if you remember the first game that
Texas beat Oklahoma in the regular season in the three
game series, the potential tying running a seventh inning for

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Oklahoma was thrown out at the plate on a ball
hit over the centerfielder's head and Reesat would basically dived
across the baseline to catch the ball and lay the tag,
and they reviewed for obstructions said it was not, and
that was because Reese was going through the baseline to
grab the ball, the throat took her into the baseline,

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So that's how they tightened it up.

Speaker 4 (47:32):
But even it.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
Was pointed out to me that there's a some guidance
on the rules, like a casebook where umpires are instructed
that if the player has started their slide and the
fielder does not have the ball but is in the path,
then it is obstruction no matter.

Speaker 7 (47:47):
Well, what else is the cases which which immediately made
me think about the fact. So what if the runner
does like Charlie Brown did and start sliding twenty feet
from the bag, does it still count the same way?
I mean, it's you could get as ridiculous as you
want to about that, And I understand the safety implement
the rule, and I'll bet you understand it as well
as anybody, because when it started in baseball, everybody called

(48:07):
it the bust or Posy rule, and you, being the
Giants fan that you are, remember when pose he had
the leg broken on that kind of thing. But I
think there's there has to be some common sense latitude interpretation,
I would imagine, and I would guess we'll probably have
more discussion, if not more refinement of that role in
the off season, don't you think.

Speaker 10 (48:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (48:27):
Absolutely, And you know that guidance someone quoted or swingshot
didn't posted on Twitter basically, and it did say that,
you know, if the runner starts their slide, you know,
clearly trying to get that call way away from the base,
and then umpires are instructed to ignore that. So there
is that latitude there. But honestly, it felt like that
runner did start her slide pretty early on that play,

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and you know she was nowhere close to the base
when she got tagged, and she was already on the grounds.
You know, it's hard to say, but certainly it feels
like it's something that will be looked at it.

Speaker 7 (48:58):
You know what that is, Andrew, That's that is softball's
version of the flopp rule in the NBA.

Speaker 4 (49:03):
That's what that is.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
I called it in different incidents this year. Gamesmanship.

Speaker 7 (49:08):
There you go, well done, well done, Okay, Andrew Haynes
visiting was all right. Let let me go back to
the to the aptpoot it bat. I know there was
a lot of incredulity in the questions that folks had
for Jerry Glasgow last night in the press conference. We
just carried it a few minutes ago, and Isiah Kennedy,

(49:29):
to her credit, said, I'm a junior by now, I
should be able to make that thing. But the whole
thing seemed from the tech perspective to be uncomfortable from
the beginning when the catcher isn't that far off the plate.
And then I saw a whole bunch of social media
stuff from tech fans say, well, the ball was over
the place. Shidn't strike Now, it was over the plate,
but it was high. People forget there's there's high and

(49:49):
there's low, as well as being across the plate. But
did it strike you as a little odd when that
first pitch was really close, I mean maybe the closest
of the four coming across the plate. And Atwood said
in the in in her postgame interviews that when she
saw that first pitch, it kind of gave her the idea.
And then what coach Singleton was also telling her, Hey,

(50:11):
be ready for this.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
Yeah, yeah, Mike in the pre game interview also he
kind of explained a little bit of that, said, you know,
singh told her, hey, if you get the chance, take
the shot. And certainly when I saw that happen and
I saw where that first pitch was. It crossed my minds.
You know, hey, this might be close enough. I didn't
think she'd actually do it, but you know, hey, all

(50:34):
America hitter is gonna All America hitter, right.

Speaker 7 (50:37):
Yeah, yeah, no doubt about it. Okay, let's move forward
to this came first and foremost.

Speaker 4 (50:43):
Uh is there?

Speaker 7 (50:45):
And I know you've had conversations with with Coach White.
Is there any reasonably there could be someone other than
Cavan in the circle tonight?

Speaker 4 (50:56):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (50:56):
He was actually, you know, the vast majority of time
doing pregame interviews. He is ready with his starter. He
knows he's pitching. He actually said he had not decided yet.

Speaker 7 (51:05):
Okay, all right, all right, and and uh, and I
think coach Glasgow kind of played it close to the best,
at least in the postgame presser.

Speaker 4 (51:11):
He said that we'll see how she feels and so on. Form.

Speaker 7 (51:14):
I guess I'd be a little surprised if anyone other
than Nigia Kennedy got in there.

Speaker 4 (51:19):
But let me get your thoughts now.

Speaker 7 (51:21):
That the fact that they've had some games against her,
both when she played at Stanford and two this year
as a pitcher for Texas Tech. How instrumental do you
think that is for helping some of the other hitters
at would of course that that was incredible, but it
finally halted the hitless scheme that she had been in.

(51:41):
But even some of the other Miascott got the little
dink hit. But but you know, not what we're used
to seeing her tear through the ball and the same
thing with Jolie earlier in the earlier in the tournament.
So having gone through it again with Kennedy last night,
if she's back in the circle, which many feels she
probably will be, you think that's instrumental and helps this

(52:03):
team going back out against her to try to get
to seven more good innings worth of swings against her.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
I do, And you know, to the question about whether
she'll start or not, I mean the way the Longhorns
ripped up their other pitching early in the season in
Austin really feel like an eighty percent and ninety percent,
even a seventy five percent Nigerie Kennedy probably Texas Tech's
best option if she is even at those lower percentages

(52:31):
for her a bit availability, but offensively, it really showed
I think Kate and Henry single that started that rally
in the sixth inning, she was really shortening up and
just trying to poke it in the outfield, and so
I think that was a good adjustment, And you know,
it really feels like that's something that's going to probably
permeate through the team. And I wouldn't be surprised if

(52:52):
a lot more players just tried to make solid contact
instead of trying to hit the ball out of the ballpark.
And you know, they saw her a lot yesterday. I
really think they have a good shot of squaring her up.

Speaker 7 (53:02):
He's Andrew Haynes, who'll call it tonight there on the
retro Austin reading on the iHeartRadio app. Be able to
tune in and listen for that. Looking forward to hearing
the call tonight and enjoy yourself. I know you enjoyed it,
but it's not often and you know this that we
all get opportunities to call championship games and they are
special moments.

Speaker 4 (53:22):
So I hope you have a good one tonight. Thank you,
all right, Thanks Greg?

Speaker 7 (53:26):
All right, you bet that's Andrew Haynes, and you can
hear him tonight. Six forty five of the pregame start time.
In the first pitch, just past seven o'clock Game two
of this championship series, Texas against Texas Tech Long Orange
One went away from the school's first ever softball national championship.
We're going to turn our attention to the NBA coming

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up next when we continue on thirteen under the Zone.

Speaker 8 (53:52):
Welcome back to the Craig Way Show and the Voice
of the Longhorns.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
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Speaker 7 (54:09):
All right, thanks again Andrew Haynes joining us on the
program with the preparation for tonight's second game of the
National Championship Series. And again we always invite your your questions,
your thoughts or comments on the text line. All you

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have to do is text the word texts followed by
your question or comment to eight one five three zero
Standard Messaging and Data Age P apply a couple of
other texts. Somebody says there needs to be a camera
down the base path line, it was hard to see
if good blocked all were part of the runner's path
and and I agree. You know, the announcers made a

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comment about didn't have the overhead view is what they said.

Speaker 4 (55:01):
Well, it'll be hard to do unless you had like a.

Speaker 7 (55:03):
Drone and you don't want a drum because if a
batted ball hits a drone, then it messes everything up.
So you know, I thought about all of this the
last time, Like those nes were loud. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
So I don't I don't know, but you could do one,
you know, I don't know. I mean, I know they've
got a camera over by the first base bag because

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they're they're taking a look at the outer safe call
it first. The question is can they can show an
angle down the line and let me also again, I
mentioned this last hour, and so I hasten to add
this again. The way the rule is defined in terms
of a runner's path to the base.

Speaker 4 (55:47):
It's not some.

Speaker 7 (55:51):
Imaginary or real or whatever line that exists between the bags. Now,
it's not imaginary between a home and first base, you
see a lot. But but when the runner is going,
it's where the runner initially starts and establishes his or
her path to the base. That becomes the running lane. Now,

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and then if they dive it from that, then they
can be called out.

Speaker 4 (56:19):
Now.

Speaker 7 (56:20):
I know what some of you are thinking, Well, what
about the the you know, the runner's lane if you
went down the first that's true, if you establish your
lane and you're going down inside of the bag, you're
you are legally obligated to continue in your lane. But
if you get but if a batted ball, thrown ball
hits you, then yes, you are then determined to be

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out of the baseline. So that's that's just the way
the rule is written. That much I know about that. Uh,
but I agree with you. It'd be great if you
had a down the line view from a camera on that.
And then somebody else said, yes, shorten up, get some hits,
get base runners. Yeah, that's what you have to do
against really good pitchers. And that and and in the
the critical inning, the bottom of the sixth last night,

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that's what happened. Ktan Henry was able to just slap
at a ball and dink it into shallow left field
for a base hit. And then, my goodness, me, a
Scott who normally can just pummel the ball and bat
over four hundred, you know, had been struggling, was able
to just hold up. Great plate discipline, just to check

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the swing and hold it up on that change up.
But in so doing she did accidentally make contact. She
was not trying to make contact and did, but fortunately
it was just a little, you know, drop volley. It
just dropped right in between the pitching circle and second base.

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As I always say, that's no man's land or no
woman's land in this case, and no player's land on
that And it set the stage for the Atwood at bat.

Speaker 4 (57:57):
And I agreed with Jerry glasco I.

Speaker 7 (58:00):
I didn't have a problem with his decision to try
to intentionally walk Reese Atwood. She's an All American and
a National Player of the Year candidate and has been
pummeling the ball. You're long if he pitches to her
and she knocks the ball in the gap for a
run scoring double or worse yet, knocks it over the
wall for a three round homer, how many questions you

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think he's going to get about why in the world
are you pitching the Reese Atwood with a base open?
And Jolie Mitchell had not had a hit in the
at night, so he's going to he would get that
question had had he pitched to her and she came
through it.

Speaker 4 (58:37):
This time.

Speaker 7 (58:38):
The question is more about the lack of execution of
the intentional walk, And listening to that news conference, it
sounded like he wasn't sure that his pitching side of
things had even pitching coaches had even worked on that
because they hadn't had one all season long. So he said,
maybe that's a coaching mistake. Yeah, probably is, but you know,

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you don't expect it to pop up.

Speaker 4 (59:02):
Somebody said, may have missed it.

Speaker 7 (59:04):
But why was it the non interference at home play
by the tech battery that basically obstructed the catcher's view
to second base when the runner's stealing second. I think
that's where things got complicated because they called interference on
the homeplate umpire because as Atwood came back to throw

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the ball to try to get the runner going to second,
her hand grazes the umpire's mask. So the interpretation, again
we're getting into rule interpretation, but the interpretation at that
point is umpire interference. Play is dead runner sent back

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to first. Now, Mike White, and I don't blame him
for doing this at all, challenged it on the basis
of the runner interfering, which I'm here to say that
it had umpire interference not been called, they might have
called batter interference on the throw. That it didn't matter

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in the grand scheme of things, because in either case
the batter would be out and the runner would be
sent back to first because it was strike three, the
batter was out and the runner was sent back to first.
It wound up being exactly the same. Now, what Mike
White was challenging was is that the batter should have

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been out and then the runner out as well, in
which case would have been ballgame. But they already ruled
the play dead because of Atwood's hand grazing the umpire's mask.
Therefore it's umpire interference. That's why there's you know, and
then somebody should if the runners not touched physically except
with the tag, the no obstruction. That's not the way

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the rules written though, And again my problem with all this,
and I understand exactly where the texts coming from, the
problem is how the rule is written. It was applied
according to the letter of the law, and Andrew Haynes
talked about it, and Mike White apparently is going to
address this in the pregame. It was applied correctly by

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the review group, not by the umpires. They called the
obvious play which was out on the base paths. But
the rule talks about the toe or foot, any part
of the body being in the baseline, no matter where
you're touching them or not. That's when obstruction is called.

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So I hope that answers that. And then somebody said,
never pitch the other team's most dangerous hit or slump
or not if you don't have to. I agree absolutely.
So anyway, let's let's get into the NBA Finals because
Cameron Parker's team is playing in it, and they start tonight.

Speaker 4 (01:01:51):
Which game are you watching, by the way, tonight? Both onairs? Yeah? Yeah,
you do, that's right, all right, so you take it on.
How comfortable feeling about this? I feel great?

Speaker 7 (01:02:02):
So you're picking the Thunder to win this? Well, just
say that right now? Five or six games? Okay?

Speaker 4 (01:02:09):
What do you like better about the Thunder than the
Pacers in this? Just some more talented team. I think
if doing like a roster draft, if you were the draft,
you know the best players from both rosters, I think
you end up with more Thunder players first than Pacers players.
And I'm not trying to bash on Halliburton or nem

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Harten the Smith because they're they're a really good team. Obviously,
the Maget's the NBA Finals, you got to be a
good team. They're a well coached team. But I think
talent wise, okay, so he has them. Obviously, Shay is
the m v P. So you got that in your
toolbox there. And then defensively, I mean what Indiana does,
Swell Craig is what, Okase he does better? Like in

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terms of taking taking care of the basketball, Indiana is great, okay,
So he's better in terms of in terms of pace, tempo,
Indian is great. Okay, SE's better in terms only. Only
think the Indiana is probably better at right now is
three point shooting. But okay, see has shown throughout the
playoffs that they don't have to shoot the three ball
to win, but not like the Boston Celtics where if
they don't shoot thirty five thirty eight percent, oh we're

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in trouble. Okay See, if you're looking at the playoff teams,
they're thirteenth in all the NBA playoffs and three point
shooting and here they are in the NBA Finals and
it hasn't really hurt them at all. So I feel
comfortable in this matchup. I think for Indiana, it'll be
fun to see the chess match because I think Grit
Carlisle is a fantastic basketball coach. What he's done now

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in two seasons, he's gotten Indiana into the Eastern Conference Finals,
down two years straight, into the finals this year with
a team that no one thought would be there. That's
not fluky, that's talent and also great coaching, and Carlisle
has shown that. On okay See side, Mark Dagnall, you know,
I think he's a top five NBA coach as well.
So it'll be a fun chess match between both teams.

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But looking at okay See's pat the Indiana's path. Not
to just credit Indiana, but you know, I think now
that we've seen the whole playoffs and its entirety nixt
good team. I don't think they're a great team. They're
a very flawed team. So I don't know about what
India's had to go up against. I mean, they beat

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a Cleveland team, obviously, but a Cleveland team that hadn't
been there before. For oka See, they had to knockout
an NBA champion in the Denver Nuggets, and a series
that honestly that may have been the real, the true
Western Conference Finals matchup, and depending on how this series goes,
that may have been the NBA Finals matchup because of
how good Denver actually was, and we just didn't look

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at them that way because of they were all overseed.
And then obviously the Minnesota with with Anthony Edwards and
Julius Randall, a t Wolves team that I thought would
give okay see a lot more trouble you okay see,
you know, took them out in five games. So the series,
I think OKAC can win in five or six games.
I just don't think Indiana can keep up with them.

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I don't think they have enough higher power to do.
So it's gonna be ha to be a huge series
for Miles Turner. I think Miles Turner is the one
player actually that could maybe flip the series if need be,
if he can play well, if Carlisle can keep on
the floor. Because you know what Indiana does so well
is they play small well. Okay, okay see, that's the
same exact thing. That's how they were able to take

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care of Denver in the Tea Wolves because they can
play small and they can play big, so they don't
really have a weakness. They don't really have a disadvantage
because they can match up with anybody, which I think
goes in okay C's favor. So I think tonight. Okay
see should win maybe like eight to fifteen points. I
think they'll take game one, you know, game one, and
Indiana's obviously they're coming off a tougher series than Okay Sees,

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so I think better take game one, and I think
they win this in five or six. Okay, all right,
we'll see how that rolls out. That's Game one of that. Tonight.

Speaker 7 (01:05:52):
We'll be back to Wrap by Bower. Number two of
the program here on thirteen.

Speaker 4 (01:05:54):
Under the Zone.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
Wake Up with har Jen Henry in the morning.

Speaker 7 (01:06:00):
I cannot believe that you and I see in third
and final hour of the program here on thirteen hundred
the Zone, Craig Way alongside Cameron Parker, the producer, glad
to have you with us here on this Thursday afternoon
and tomorrow on the program, obviously, we'll be discussing whatever
happens tonight in Game two for the Women's College World Series.

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Either there will be a brand new national champion, crown
Texas Long Orange, or there'll be one more game to
crown a brand new national champion, either Texas or Texas Tech.
Neither side has ever won a national championship.

Speaker 4 (01:06:37):
It's soft fall.

Speaker 7 (01:06:37):
So what I'm going to and Texas has a leg
up having one game won last night, and they'll try
to go for the sweep tonight. And you can hear
that on the iHeartRadio app six forty five with the
pregame start time in the first pitch just past seven o'clock.
But tomorrow on the program will be looking back at that,
and I imagine we'll check in with some of the

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principals and talk about those kinds of things. So we
will do that also tomorrow. We are now into summertime.
School is out, vacations underway, and summertime on this program
in the past few years has meant on Friday's the
Music Survey. So the return of the Music Survey is tomorrow.

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And if you've never heard us do the music survey,
it is something I got from my friends George Donovan
Craig Miller from The Ticket in Dallas.

Speaker 4 (01:07:32):
They did it a few years back and.

Speaker 7 (01:07:36):
It was wildly popular in the Dallas Forward area on
the Ticket and it became pretty popular down here as well,
folks y.

Speaker 4 (01:07:43):
I interested him.

Speaker 7 (01:07:44):
Because it does reveal something about the people who are
taking the survey, and basically the survey consist of eleven questions,
and you simply answer the question with either a band
or an artist, either one solo artist.

Speaker 4 (01:08:02):
Or a band.

Speaker 7 (01:08:04):
The trick to it is several of the questions are related,
and you could probably use the same band or artist
to answer several of the questions, but you're not allowed
to in the survey. You can only use the name
of a band or artist one time. So here are
the eleven questions band or artist that you hate. Now,

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I always say hate is a strong word. I prefer
to think of it as when you hear that band
or artist on the air and the song comes on, you.

Speaker 4 (01:08:37):
Immediately change the channel. People know that for me that's
air supply.

Speaker 7 (01:08:41):
But are you redoing your I'm going to redo mine, okay,
but mine is not tomorrow Me. Tomorrow is Cameron Parker.
He's the leadoff band on this. And So these are
the eleven questions band or artist I hate. Band or
artist I think is overrated, band or artist I think
is underappreciated. Band or artist I love band or artists

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I can listen to over and over. Band or artists
that made me fall in love with music, band or
artists that changed my life. See, there's there's several very
similar ones there. Band are artists I love, band or
artists I can listen to over and over. Band artists
that maybe fall in love with music. Band or artists
that change my life. You know, you could use the

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same one for me. I could theoretically use the Beatles
for all of that, but not allowed to. You're only
allowed to use that band or artist name one time.
You have to come up with different ones. And that's
the creativity involved this. And then the other questions, band
or artists that surprised me, guilty pleasure, band or artists

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someone that maybe you don't listen to around other people,
but you enjoyed listening to by yourself. Band or artists
I should have seen by now, and band or artists
a great band or artist to see live. So those
are the eleven questions, and Cameron Parker is first up.

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He's the leadoff band on this deal tomorrow, the band
or artist with the music survey. So yeah, the last
time I did mine was three years ago. I think
you too, So we're gonna so we have to refresh,
we have to do it. Didn't necessarily have to be
different answers to the questions, but I discovered after I
did the first one that there were some that should

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have belonged in different spots and I did not use.

Speaker 4 (01:10:41):
So that's coming back. I'll bring that back around.

Speaker 7 (01:10:45):
At some point, so we'll have different people do it
on Fridays, but it'll be the band or artist. It'll
be a Cameron Parker doing that with all those band
and are the that'll be coming down tomorrow. Okay, a
couple other things before we get to the break the

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UIL State Baseball Tournament, and that's an old habit that
a lot of folks would probably have to get used
to and break is calling it the state tournament because
now the state tournament in basketball or baseball or soccer
is pretty much a holistic thing for the state tournament

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because for the first time ever in the history of
the UIL, you do not have four teams coming to
Austin or in this case Delle Diamond and Round, right,
but the greater Austin area you don't have four teams
coming to play a state championship anymore. With two semi
finals in the finals.

Speaker 4 (01:11:48):
That changed.

Speaker 7 (01:11:49):
The reason it changed is because the superintendent's across the
state who make up the UIL Legislative Council voted last
year to do with do what they do with football,
and we've become accustomed to what we've had in football
for the past decade plus, where you have two state
champions in each classification. Now, it actually started in the

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UIL in the state's largest classification, which used to be
five A. It's called six A now. They just bumped
everything up by a number when they decided to make
six man football one A. So the state's largest classification
in nineteen ninety went to two divisions. Back then it
was called Big five A in regular five A, and

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then they just start took to calling a division one
in Division two.

Speaker 4 (01:12:36):
The next year.

Speaker 7 (01:12:37):
They added that with four A, which at the time
was the second largest classification. That was in nineteen ninety six,
and in three A, two A, and what was then
one A all got added around the turn of the century.
So for the past twenty five years and then in
some cases even further back, they've been crowning two state
champions in football. Now for the first time ever, they're

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doing it with all traditional team sports.

Speaker 4 (01:13:02):
They did it with.

Speaker 7 (01:13:02):
Volleyball last of whatever, they did it with basketball in
the spring, and they're doing it with baseball now. What
that means is there is no more state tournament where
you bring the semi finalist all to the Austin area
and you have a final four like the Final four
and basketball in the NCAA, you don't have that. You
play the semifinals ahead of Towe the week prior, just

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like you do in football, where those semifinal games. You know,
in football, they'll play a semifinal game at Rice Stadium
or McLean Stadium in Waco, or even some at Kelly Reeves,
the Palace on Parmer, even some at the field in Flugerville,

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and then of course several like at Jerry World or NRG,
you know those those places. So they play those semifinals separately.
And then of course for football they all come together
at World for the state championships. Well now they've done
that with all other sports, so they only bring the

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two teams playing for state championship to Austin. That's because
you have to crown two state champions. It winds up
being the same amount of games played at in San
Antonio for basketball in this case Delle Diamond. For baseball,
it's the same amount of games. You're just seeing two
games in each classification instead of semi finals. They're two

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state championships. So they started this morning with the two
A Division two state championship. Collinsville defeated over toon twelve
to nothing. Question, we're Cameron Parker. Do you know where
either Collinsville or Overton are?

Speaker 4 (01:14:44):
No?

Speaker 7 (01:14:45):
Okay, Overton's in East Texas, over kind of between Tyler
and Kilgore. So there it's over for Overton because they
lost twelve to nothing. Collinsville's way up in Cook County,
near Gainesville, not far from East Texas, right, No, No,
but up to Oklahoma straight up I thirty five. You
know where he crossed the Red River there where Windstar is.

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You get seen him right before that. The last city
you cross, the last city you go through before he
crossed the Red River is Gainesville. Straight up by thirty five.
Collinsville Pirates.

Speaker 4 (01:15:14):
They win it.

Speaker 7 (01:15:14):
Okay, that's two A division two to A. Division one
came up afterwards, New Home and Centerville. Centreville beat new
Home six to one. Even all right, Centerville's in the well. No,
you should know where Centerville is.

Speaker 4 (01:15:29):
Nah? Say that you ever.

Speaker 7 (01:15:31):
Driven I forty five between Houston and Dallas.

Speaker 4 (01:15:35):
I don't think so.

Speaker 7 (01:15:36):
Actually, Okay, Centerville is basically the center. It's the midway
point between Dallas and Houston. On I forty five. It's
one hundred and twenty miles to each to each city.
Is Celville gone that way?

Speaker 4 (01:15:48):
Okay? All right?

Speaker 7 (01:15:49):
New home is up in the Panana in the Lubber
area really actually towards South Plains. The game that is
just started now involves an area school, Thrall and Wall
Nice which one is the area's school?

Speaker 4 (01:16:06):
All right? Very good? Yeah, straight up.

Speaker 7 (01:16:08):
Seventy nine about Old twenty minutes north of del Diamond,
so you don't have they have the closest mount to
go to get to that. Thrall and Wall are underway,
that is in the three A Division two state championship.
And so that game just got underway at Dell Diamond
and then tonight three A Division one Liberty Ilow in London,

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now London, not London, England.

Speaker 4 (01:16:34):
London Pirates. You know them, You know about the couple.
They're high school basketball games.

Speaker 7 (01:16:39):
Okay, all right, they're from the Corpus Christie area. How
about Liberty I Low. Anything about Liberty Ilow?

Speaker 4 (01:16:47):
Is that out in the Panhandle, no opposite directions far
northeast it's Texas, canap basically is where Liberty Ilow is.
All Right, So.

Speaker 7 (01:16:55):
That's that's all today Tomorrow for a Division two nine
o'clock tomorrow morning, you got the other area school, Wimberley,
playing in the four A D two final against spring Hill.

Speaker 4 (01:17:05):
You know where spring Hill is at Dallas? Uh? Long View? Okay? Okay?

Speaker 7 (01:17:12):
Then you got four eight Division one cal Allen and
Pleasant Grove.

Speaker 4 (01:17:17):
You know where either of those schools? Yeah, I just
don't remember where. Pleasant Grove? Where is that? That's Texas Canada, Texas?
And then what was the other one, cal Allen. That's
also East Texas. Right, No, that's Corpus, Chris Corpus.

Speaker 7 (01:17:32):
Okay, four o'clock Kingwood Park against the defending state champion Grapevine.
You know where either of those all right, Grapevine I
just mentioned you know they're losing their hooters. We mentioned
that's that's where the the college football Playoff Committee gathers. Well,
it's right by DFW Airport. That's why they gathered there

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at the Gaylord Resorts, which was the Texas team headquarter
for the Cotton Bowl hotel. So Kingwood Park, do you
know where that is?

Speaker 4 (01:18:04):
I would guess somewhere near Houston it is, it's in
It's basically in Kingwood. It's it's an unbeliased school. Then
the night game Smithson Valley Aledo that when Siston Valley,
San Antonio Alito outside of Dallas, Yep, yep, just west
of Fort Worth, over in Parker County, all right.

Speaker 7 (01:18:19):
And then finally on Saturday, the one A game Gordon
and Fayetteville.

Speaker 4 (01:18:26):
Any any guesses on that Gordon Fi Drive Gordon Faith
feel funny. I'm guessing that's east of us. You're right
about that. It's over in.

Speaker 7 (01:18:40):
Uh same county as it's in Fayette County. It's where
Lagrange is, but a little bit north of there. And Gordon,
which is the reigning state champions in six A football
six man in six man football, is out west of
Fort Worth between count of Fort Worth and Abilene. And
they had a really difficult time with those tornadoes and

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games turn at wreck their football stadium among other things
as well. So there's that county, yes, in Palopinno County,
all right, and then the two six A games, and
I'm gonna work Roger Wallace and are going to work
both of these for for NFHS for the television tele
cast of these.

Speaker 4 (01:19:18):
Tom Ball, yes, yes, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:19:23):
Uh and Strong is where Mary's Cafe is, which has
the incredible chicken forrad steak, the largest chicken red steaks
you can get.

Speaker 4 (01:19:30):
Tom Ball and Kingwood guessing also Houston.

Speaker 7 (01:19:34):
Yeah and tom Ball. Tom Ball is in Region two,
Kingwood of Region three. But it's an all greater Houston
area matchup tom Ball defending state champion.

Speaker 4 (01:19:41):
We had the game last year when tom Ball won.

Speaker 7 (01:19:44):
And that's the noon game and then the sixth A
Division one game at four o'clock Midway and a task Casita.

Speaker 4 (01:19:53):
Tasa. That's Houston Midway. Ty Harrington's alma mater, so Waco area. Yeah, yeah,
it's it's it's basically in yeah, because their colors are
blue and red.

Speaker 7 (01:20:08):
Yes, yes, it's the Midway Panthers. They're basically over there
by Hewitt and wood Way and all that and the
Chip and Jojo area and of those kids.

Speaker 4 (01:20:20):
That's it.

Speaker 7 (01:20:21):
Some call it Waco Midway, some call it Hewitt Midway.

Speaker 4 (01:20:23):
I just say Midway. I just say Midway.

Speaker 17 (01:20:26):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:20:26):
But that that's it. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:20:28):
And they're playing in Taska, Sina. So there's your state championship,
but again different this year. They're all different this year
because of the new state championships. They bring only the
state finalists to town, but there's twice as many, so
it works out to be the same amount of games
as if you just went to see the state tournament.
You're just seeing every game you see. It's a state

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championship game. It's not a semi final anymore. Those are
earlier at the week prior. All right, coming up, we're
gonna hear from the Texas side of things with the
Longhorns advance to the national Championship round.

Speaker 4 (01:21:01):
That's next on thirteen under the Zone.

Speaker 1 (01:21:04):
Game one, the best of three Women's College World Series
Championship Series. Good evening from Devon Park in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.
One one rounded left side, Mia Scott up with it
goes to the plate for one on the first.

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
It's a double play.

Speaker 3 (01:21:24):
Five two three.

Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
They get the force at the plate and then Reese
Thattwood on the money to first base Stevan another two
to two rounded by Johnson to the left side and
Mia Scott lunging to her left able to track that
down and fire on the first rout.

Speaker 3 (01:21:43):
Number one.

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
Scott has been a defensive stalwart for the Longhorns this
year and especially here at the World Series.

Speaker 3 (01:21:51):
There is the two and two hit that hit Stuart.

Speaker 1 (01:21:56):
It did it clipped her in the lake, and so
they're in the first base runner for the Longhorns.

Speaker 3 (01:22:03):
Stuart hit by the pitch in a two to two
count with two.

Speaker 1 (01:22:07):
Outs, only the fourth time she's been hit by a
pitch this year. Again, one and two, swing and miss.

Speaker 4 (01:22:15):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:22:17):
The changeup gets Tony for out number two here in
the third, first strikeout for Cavan.

Speaker 3 (01:22:23):
Here's the pitch, soft line.

Speaker 1 (01:22:25):
Drive past the diving shortstop Tony into left field and
the Longhorns have their first hit with two out in
the third, Kennedy to the plate high and off the
glove of the catcher Baldez. There goes Malodey, the second
for the Longhorns, get a runner in scoring position for
the first time. Three two pitch waved out and missed,

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and Cavan gets Kennedy for a second zime. Second strikeout
of the game for Teagan Cavon another two line shot
in the left field, coming over towards the line. Stewart
reaches over and makes the catch right on the foul line.
And that's out number one one one. There's pitch taken
for a stripe runner going through it a second and

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plenty of time race out. What guns are down? And
Jerry Glasgow is going to challenge something. I wonder if
they thought that Jolie Mitchell got in the way of Holloman.

Speaker 3 (01:23:19):
Trying to steal the bag. Here's the ruling.

Speaker 1 (01:23:24):
Oh my goodness, so Holloman is safe on second team
steals in twenty tries this year. Davis sends it in
the air right center field on the move. Ashon Maloney
won't get to it, and the overturned call gives Texas
Tech a run ouch jam shot just in the perfect
spot where neither Maloney nor Henry could make the catch.

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Texas Tech on the board. Here in the fifth it
remains one and two on Henry Kennedy back on the
rubber right hander to the plane wine drive this time
are ball one hop in front of the left fielder
elder so Caden with a two out hit. Here in
the sixth, and the Longhorns had their second hitch only

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their third base runner of the game against Kennedy. First
pitch taken for a strike right down to second on
a steel and Caden's.

Speaker 3 (01:24:19):
In there no need for an obstruction.

Speaker 1 (01:24:22):
Call to throw a little off to the side and
the Longhorns have the potential tying run in scoring position.
The ball's two strikes to count. The pitch Mia the
soft five ball in the infield on an off speed pitch.
He's gonna beat that out second basement, lang lears charging
it was playing back and picked it up on a

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hop behind the circle after the right side of the circle.
So another hit for Texas. Henry stopped on third base
there that was the.

Speaker 2 (01:24:53):
Next pitch hits the ball in the left bail. She
swag at the pitch.

Speaker 5 (01:24:56):
Those pots of us own two run score. Texas take
the laid.

Speaker 6 (01:25:01):
A boss moment from Attwood, a three to zero intention
to be outside for ball four, and she hits it
into the left for a base hit three.

Speaker 1 (01:25:11):
And two with a runner on first, one out. In
the seventh inning, a one run Texas League degans Bath
pitch strike three right on the second Oh, come on
cut the throat, strike three call to bring her up
for out number two of ball's two strikes outfield, straight up,

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medium depth, the infield pre being in a step or
two O two pitch hop up right side Jolie Mitchell
along the first baseline bow territory puts it away, and
Texas is one win from a national championship.

Speaker 7 (01:25:48):
And there it is the game one in the books
for Texas winning last night. And we're gonna we're gonna
take a break here a little bit early because what
we're going to do is bring you the Texas News conference.
We're going to be able to do that without feeling
rushed or anything like that. A couple of things on
the text line. Someone asked, were you fine, They said,

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the music poll our music survey. Once we start doing
it again, we'll post it the questions because it'd be
fun to have audience participation as well. You want to
give us your music surveys, you can do that as well.
We're glad to do that, so we'll we'll do that. Seapalaces.
You know, softball and baseball are simple games complicated by
rules and umpires.

Speaker 4 (01:26:31):
I couldn't agree more.

Speaker 7 (01:26:32):
Yeah, rules and umpires and rules interpretations and stuff like that.
And then I was running down the list of the
teams involved in the state baseball championships and somebody said,
I saw tom ball play this year. I think Paul Bunyan,
John Henry and Hulk Cogan that three, four and five.
They're really really good. They are a defending state champ.

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They have a junior pitcher who's committed to Texas. They
have a junior pitchers committed A and M. They're very,
very good. Tom Ball is but you know teams that
they're out of the Greater Houston here, so Kingwood knows
them pretty well.

Speaker 4 (01:27:13):
So it'll be interesting to see how that rolls out.
As well as the other games.

Speaker 7 (01:27:17):
We will update the game that's going on there involving
the area school coming up, and we'll hear from the
Longhorns next on thirteen under the zone. Updating that UIL

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State Tournament State championship game in three a D one
wall leading Thrall four to nothing, and that ballgame right
now is in the bottom of the first wall scored
four runs on the top of the first inning Thrall.
Hopefully the Tigers can turn it around, but they're down

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for nothing in the bottom half of the first inning.
We'll keep you posted on that big crowded Hell Diamond
by the way to see the area school play, and
again tomorrow morning at nine o'clock is when Wimberley the
other area Greater Aston Area School will play a game
tonight in three A Liberty I Low as I mentioned

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in the three eight Division two matchup tonight, and then
that will be let's see, it's three A Division one
to night Liberty Ilo and Corpus Christie London throwing walls
three eighty two on their way right now, and then
four games tomorrow and then three on Saturday. Okay, Texas

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coming off the amazing, you know, inexplicable victory over Texas Tech,
the umpiring or the ruling decision going against them for
obstruction in the fifth that allowed Red Raiders to score,
and then Reese Atwood swinging on the three to zero
pitch intended for an intentional walk, got her bat on it,

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got it through the hole on the left side to
run score in the bottom of the sixth. Texas wins
the game two to one. They're up one game to another,
one went away from a national championship. So here's the
Texas news conference, starting off with the opening statement from
head coach Mike White.

Speaker 10 (01:29:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 21 (01:29:23):
Well, obviously it was a hard fought game. I could
have gone either way. Game of inches, lots of a
lot of things happening for a for a two to
one ball game, for sure, and unfortunately we were able
to come out.

Speaker 10 (01:29:33):
On top of it.

Speaker 21 (01:29:34):
Nija Canaday is just an extremely good pitcher, and but
so we had one on our side too with Tea
and Cavane, and they kind of matched toe to toe
for quite a while.

Speaker 4 (01:29:42):
Then it was good. You know, it's it's hot.

Speaker 21 (01:29:46):
You know, Jerry's done a great job with that team
and is still doing a great job with that team,
and to face them and this, this this atmosphere, it
is tremendous. Thank you through all the fans that turned
out and the crowd was great. I thought for for
not having a home team in it for the first
time in a while, you know, people always wonder about that,
but the fans really showed out and I think that's great.

Speaker 4 (01:30:08):
And the sure a good bull game. Okay, let's start
questions for players with Brady front her left.

Speaker 20 (01:30:13):
Brady Vernon Softball America, just Reese. Obviously, those first three
pitches of the intentional walk were close where you prepared
to swing? Did you want to swing knowing that it's
probably the flattest pitch you'll ever get from Naja Kennedy
you can kind of walk.

Speaker 4 (01:30:25):
Us through that.

Speaker 22 (01:30:26):
Yeah, the first pitch, I think she kind of left
a little and I was like, oh, and so then
after that, I was just like looking for something just
a little bit. I mean, that game's really tight, and
I knew I was gonna have to take a risk
to try and do something for my team. I mean,
perhaps to Naja, because she definitely kept us real tight
throughout that game.

Speaker 4 (01:30:43):
She's a great pitcher.

Speaker 22 (01:30:44):
And I saw my opportunity.

Speaker 4 (01:30:46):
I took it. Right. We'll go second our ride to Jake. Yeah, Reese,
did you know.

Speaker 11 (01:30:52):
On the first pitch that you might if something was close,
that you were going to take a swing at it?
And is that your call to make that decision to
swing where you're trying to intentionally walked?

Speaker 22 (01:31:02):
I've never had a kind of I've never had that
happen to me, So I'm not sure or like, I've
had intentional walks, but I've never had one that was
actually like over the plate a little bit. And the
first one was so at that point, I was like,
let me just be on time and if I react,
I know she had slowed down a little bit, so
I knew I had time to react to something and
I was just gonna make sure I was on time
in case it was over the plate.

Speaker 4 (01:31:22):
Okay, we got front row left.

Speaker 15 (01:31:24):
Thomas Jones, Austin American Statesman, a recent and taken on
that obstruction call. What did you guys see from your
angle and when they ruled or safe? What was going
through your minds?

Speaker 4 (01:31:37):
I mean, that's a it's a tough call.

Speaker 22 (01:31:39):
I'm just really proud of how the team responded to it,
So that's all that matters. I feel like we were
kind of fired up after that and we got the
momentum going on from there.

Speaker 14 (01:31:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 23 (01:31:47):
I'm just trying to get out the way. I didn't
see what happened.

Speaker 19 (01:31:51):
All right, we go front real right, Kirk, Yeah, Kirk
Bowls from the Houston Chronicle taking Can you walk us
through that first inning and how you got out of
that gym and how hard was it pitching with the
pressure of trying to match Nizia pitch for pitch.

Speaker 23 (01:32:04):
Oh yeah, firstenning definitely a little rough about the best, uh,
But I think we responded from that and my team
kept me in at Reese came up big in that
moment that really helped us out, And so I think
after we got through that, I think it was kind
of just like, Okay, settled down, We're fine, and I
think it ultimately helped us after we kind of took
the momentum from that.

Speaker 20 (01:32:23):
Okay Brady front row, left, Brady Brennon SSAPO America, just Cayden.
It seemed like they're on the foul ball right before
you're a hit, that they're starting getting the timer up
that third time through the order?

Speaker 4 (01:32:33):
Did things feel more comfortable? Do you think for everyone?

Speaker 19 (01:32:36):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:32:36):
Yes, one hundred percent.

Speaker 24 (01:32:38):
I feel like there was never a time or not
that where we just felt like what went wasted. We
kind of communicated throughout the whole entire game. We battled
her the whole entire game, and it was just at
some point we knew that we were going to execute
and we were going to get through, and it just
happened to be the sixth hitting.

Speaker 4 (01:32:53):
Okay, we go all the way back right corner.

Speaker 17 (01:32:56):
Holly wrote, ESPN, Kayden, this is for you. That was
an epic at back. What information are you getting as
you're fouling it off, fouling it off and finally getting
some good contact down left field?

Speaker 24 (01:33:05):
Just being on time keeping it simple, just knowing kind
of my zone, what I like to hunt and my pitches,
so being able to trust myself, trust my skills, and
kind of understand also how it's being pitched throughout the game,
so being.

Speaker 16 (01:33:17):
Able to come through for my tea when I needed.

Speaker 4 (01:33:18):
To, Okay, well get second our left. Yeah, and Perker
Coleman cave you Reese for you sorry.

Speaker 17 (01:33:25):
Going back to that that three to zero pitch, you
said that everybody was fired up after.

Speaker 4 (01:33:29):
That obstruction called Did that fire you up too? How
did that fuel that? A B.

Speaker 22 (01:33:33):
Yeah, it definitely did. I think a lot of plays
in that game fired me up. It's it's the World Series,
it's a championship, so little things like that or it's tight,
especially when you're facing a good picture. So any momentum,
any energy will take, We'll get it.

Speaker 25 (01:33:48):
Okay in front of me, right, Cedric going to Austin
American Stations for Caden and Tigan.

Speaker 4 (01:33:53):
Reese was over ten before that hit.

Speaker 25 (01:33:56):
I'm sorry to bring that up, Reese, but good timing
on the head. What was your confidence level with her
up with runners aboard?

Speaker 23 (01:34:05):
I mean I think it says the same. I mean
it's resat one at the plate. I don't care if
she had struck out ten times before that, if I
was pitching her, I wouldn't want to And so no, no,
no confidence drop at all.

Speaker 4 (01:34:18):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 24 (01:34:19):
I mean she's an All American for a reason two
times at this point, and you know, the confidence never
really never goes down with you. She's a competitor, she's
a hard worker, and you know, at the end of
the day, it just kind of was going to take
just one swing and she took.

Speaker 23 (01:34:31):
It, which was over ten and then they were intentionally
walking her.

Speaker 4 (01:34:34):
So I think that says it too.

Speaker 11 (01:34:37):
All right, we'll get second r ride back to Jake.
This is for for all the players. So earlier this
started it you all overcame Oklahoma. Tonight, you overcame the
controversial obstruction call, then you overcome Naija. Do you sense
a collective resiliency with this team going into you know,
potentially that the game to win the National Championship?

Speaker 22 (01:35:00):
Yeah, for sure. I mean that's instilled in our culture. Resiliency.
Coach why it always harps on that, and it's definitely
something that everyone on this every person on this team
has We never stopped fiving. It's Texas fied and will
always be there.

Speaker 23 (01:35:14):
Yeah, I think I think getting the first one is
big for us, and I think that that's a huge
piece of it. It's gonna help us going forward. And
so yeah, I think we never give in. I think
even we would come together. We were always talking about
just fighting to the end. If we have an out,
you have a chance.

Speaker 24 (01:35:26):
So yeah, this team is dealt with adversity this whole
entire season. We deal with a lot of us came
back and we had adversity last year. So I think
it was just you know, coming together and fighting for
each other and you know, just being the team that
we had been this whole entire season.

Speaker 13 (01:35:39):
Okay, that'll wrap things up for players. You guys are dismissed, great,
all right, we'll go to front row left. David Coach,
David Collier, ABC lock. You kind of mentioned how strange
this one was.

Speaker 26 (01:35:58):
Do you kind of it in a way feel luckier
that you dodged a bullet in a game where you
have four errors and still managed to come out with
a victory against the pitch of the caliber of Nija.

Speaker 10 (01:36:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 21 (01:36:12):
I think it just shows that the team had the
resilience and just you know, to put it behind them.
You know, to be able to reset. We walk work
on that all the time, the mental toughness part of it.
You know, obviously nobody wants to get out today and
make a couple of eras. Now, one was the catchers
interference with caunadas and era and I think the obstruction
call it two counts as an era too, right, So

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there's a couple of there that maybe you shouldn't reads
a little worse than what it really is. But you know,
we got to pick each other up and that was
the key there, you know, and you plan a great
player like or pitcher like Naiga, you just could to
take advantage of when you can and fortunately had an
opportunity to to make things count and we were able
to do that with reset.

Speaker 4 (01:36:52):
What's hit? Can we go second with ride? Cliff? Yeah,
Cliff Brown, associated Press coach.

Speaker 14 (01:36:58):
You obviously have a very good workhorse picture, but you
also have some depth. Just wanted you to comment if
you could, about how your pitching is set up.

Speaker 4 (01:37:07):
Going forward for the rest of this and just where he's.

Speaker 21 (01:37:10):
Saying, Yeah, obviously we have formal pictures that are well
risted and gives us an opportunity to throw anybody at
anyone time, and we'll go back and look at the film.
We'll talk to Tea and see how she's feeling tomorrow
and make that decision tomorrow once we get back and
talk as the stuff, you know, talking to Patty Restaylor,
a pitching coach as well.

Speaker 15 (01:37:28):
Make sure that we'll see what we want to do
after we look at some type. Yeah, we con front
our left. Thomas Jones, Austin American Statesman. Someone mentioned Reese's
over ten streak. You haven't been shy about moving people
around in your lineup. Did you ever consider moving Reese
at all? And what gives you confidence in her even
though she's over ten?

Speaker 4 (01:37:48):
Well, I kind of believe in that thing.

Speaker 21 (01:37:49):
It's like I think that you know, you keep missing,
you similated, you're going to strike gold. And I think
I told ESPN on an interview that I thought Reesatt
was the one who was going to come through for us.
I think it was you know, the Somple Live show,
you know, that was one I believed, And so I
knew she was jew. She just uh, she was on
time quite a bit today and just missing, you know,

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So I think she was you to come through. Didn't
know it was going to be that intentional walk thing,
but it's still it works.

Speaker 4 (01:38:16):
It goes down as a hit. Canay we go? Front right?

Speaker 19 (01:38:19):
Kirk, Yeah, Kurt Wolves from Houston Chronicle. Mike had one
hit as a team for five innings. What did you
think of your approaches to Naja then? And why do
you feel like Cayden and me I got the big hits?

Speaker 4 (01:38:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 21 (01:38:34):
I think that early on we had quite a few
strikeouts and she was we were kind of chasing a
little bit and she had our number and we just
had to make that adjustment and you can't continue to
chase up a picture like that.

Speaker 4 (01:38:43):
And I thought we we we.

Speaker 21 (01:38:45):
Had better at bat's letter in the game, and that
showed up, you know, Kayden Henry's you know, thought those
fought that one off, So that was huge for us
to create some momentum.

Speaker 4 (01:38:55):
Can we go? Front row? Left?

Speaker 20 (01:38:56):
Brady Brady burning in Softball America, just tegging, kept the
ball on the ground all night. It just what is
the evolution of her drop ball that been like this
year and just why it's been so successful especially here.

Speaker 21 (01:39:08):
Yeah, I mean it came back from men's fist pitch
days and she was coached by Bill Hillhouse, who was
a men's fist pitch pitcher, and we believed in vertical movements,
you know, up and down and then off speed. And
this the three pitches she really has, and she's able
to move those through different planes and make the pitches
look similar but break different ways.

Speaker 4 (01:39:26):
And I think it just came down to confidence.

Speaker 21 (01:39:28):
You know, from her travelable days, she just could get
away with just throwing one pitch, but she's found out,
you know, sometimes the hideway.

Speaker 4 (01:39:35):
At this level, you got.

Speaker 21 (01:39:35):
To be able to mix a match and be able
to come reinvent yourself and do different things.

Speaker 4 (01:39:40):
Can we go a second r? Right? Jake?

Speaker 11 (01:39:42):
Mike, did you think that Reese was going to swing
when you saw the intentional walk time in?

Speaker 4 (01:39:46):
Well, I kind of was the onfi is there hit it?

Speaker 21 (01:39:48):
You know, but I didn't know she was going to swing,
And I kind of joked with us that I didn't
give you the three zero green light, But I'm glad
she didn't listen to me.

Speaker 4 (01:39:55):
I think Church Singleton was tell her the swing. Can
we good? Front row left?

Speaker 15 (01:40:00):
Like the obstruction call has been an issue this whole
world series? Does it need to be reassessed by the
NCAA about how it's applied.

Speaker 21 (01:40:07):
Yeah, I was on the rules committee a couple of
years ago, and it's it's a tough it's a tough
deal because one of the things you want to be
able to do is allow us to make softball plays.
And obviously that was a softball play. It didn't work out,
And but how the book is written, you've got to
call up how it's written. So yes, we do need
to maybe look at that and change it so it's
not written that way and allows a little more interpretational leeway.

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We brought in the ruling that if the throw takes
you offline coming onto home plate, you're allowed to go
get the ball, and that was a good change. Now
we need to look at some of these other things
that are maybe taking away some really great plays. That
was a great throw and a great tag, but you know,
by a rule book, they had to call the way
they called.

Speaker 13 (01:40:45):
It a go a third row in the right Scott
Scott right with.

Speaker 4 (01:40:49):
Deal club and coach.

Speaker 21 (01:40:51):
We haven't seen what Jerry will do playing back to
back with Nia.

Speaker 4 (01:40:56):
Do you go into tomorrow expecting to see her again?

Speaker 21 (01:40:59):
Well, hundred percent without a doubt. I mean, he's gonna
throw her. He's already said he's not gonna lose his
ace on the bench, so I trust Jerry.

Speaker 4 (01:41:09):
All Right, We're gonna go front row right here.

Speaker 10 (01:41:14):
Cedria Golden, Austin American Statesmen.

Speaker 25 (01:41:16):
During the broadcast, they reported that, I mean Scott's playing
with the torn a c L if that's is that true?

Speaker 4 (01:41:21):
And when did it happen?

Speaker 21 (01:41:23):
You know, I can't really elaborate on that at this point,
but I'm not sure when it happened. But she's she's
being playing banged up a little bit. Obviously, there's hippo
rules that I've got to kind of bye by and
kind of really talk about that.

Speaker 4 (01:41:36):
Er more questions for coach.

Speaker 7 (01:41:42):
Right and there it is, all right? Uh Texas players
and head coach Mike White after a c L.

Speaker 4 (01:41:50):
I didn't I heard that last night, but I wasn't
sure and forgot to ask Andrew about it. That's crazy.

Speaker 7 (01:41:56):
She's running full tilt out there. She beat out that
little dink shot between the pitching circle and second base
to reach base. So if she's got a torn ACL,
she's dealing with it pretty well.

Speaker 4 (01:42:11):
All right.

Speaker 7 (01:42:12):
We'll be back to wrap up today's edition of the program.
Coming up here on thirteen under the zone