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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
I keep a close watch on this heart of mine.
I keep my eyes wide open all the time. I
keep the ends out on the pilot. Fine they cause
your mind?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Uh, the great Johnny Cash bring us back here on
this Thursday afternoon. And one guy that I know who
can probably sing Johnny Cash with the best of them
as our next guest. He's the play by play voice
of the Arkansas Razorbacks. That's Chuck Barron. I've never heard
you sing, but I have a feeling with your With
your baritone, you could probably belt out a tune or
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to him.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
I right, I can, Uh, I could. I would be
good on the volume part. I don't know if it
would be on key or anything like that, but but
Johnny Cash is one that You're right, I could. I
could probably belt out a verse or two.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Hey, in the Bible it says it says, make a
joyful noise unto the Lord. It doesn't necessarily have to
be on key. It didn't say anything about that.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
That's right, Mine would be joyful. That's about as party
would go.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
It's always a joy to visit with you. Let me
get you a thought.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
The one unifying comment that has come out of long
worn players and when I did Steve Sarkesian's show last night,
and I understand everything about coach Beak and players saying
the right things and all that.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Other kind of stuff, but the one.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Comment that was a common thread that came through is Okay, Yeah,
anybody can look at the record and see Arkansas two
and eight coming in, but take a closer look, see
how close it's been game after game after game with
a realistic, if not a reasonable, shot to win the
football game. And they said in what you see as
a talented team with some dangerous elements that had had
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to undergo a coaching change on this and while it
has brought its disappointments in the change this season in
mid season, how about your thoughts overall and when you
when you step back and take that thirty thousand foot
view look at this Arkansas team and what they have
and what they'll be bringing into Austin on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
You know, when you do step back and you do
take that big picture view, there's seventeen points away from
being eight and two, and they're two and eight. Sometimes
you get so caught up in the disappointment, and I
mean I've been there, because every game seems to turn
out just about the same. You know, you lose sight
of the fact that you're really not that far away.
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Even though people are sick of hearing that, I completely understand.
There's not been one time this year, with the exception
of portions of the Notre Dame game, where I felt
like they let go of the rope. They did to
a degree in that game, and that's why I changes
maybe next day. But in the other nine ball games,
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there's there's not been one time when I felt like
they've stopped. They've quit, and that's not an easy thing
to pull off, and I give them credit for that.
So I would expect Saturday's game to be very similar
from very similar to what we've seen in the other
Arkansas games. I'd be very surprised if they stopped competing
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by the same token, they've just not found a way
to win a game.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah, Chuck, is there anything noticeable that that's caught your
attention about how this team is, you know, going about
its business since Bobby Petrino moved in the interim head
coaching job. Like we said, there were close losses before
the change was made from Sam Pittman and moving Patrino
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into the interim job.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
But you have you noticed anything different? Is it?
Speaker 1 (03:49):
We hear sometimes that just change for the sake of change.
Sometimes it's good that sometimes it's not. But have you
noticed anything different? Have you heard anything different from the
players as to how they've had to adapt once the
change was made?
Speaker 4 (04:05):
You know, it's been interesting Patrino when he was a
head coach here before, you know, it was a little
bit different era, but he was probably a little bit tougher,
particularly verbally than the perception is now. His approach when
he took over, and in retrospect it was one hundred
percent the way to go about it was. You know,
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this has not turned out the way any of us
thought that it was going to turn out. But you've
got to, you know, in the case of when he
took over seven games remaining to essentially put your resume
on tape, and we're going to enjoy being football players.
I'm lucky to be a coach, You're lucky to be players.
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Put your resume on tape, whether it's for Arkansas, whether
it's the next school, whether it's the NFL, whatever it is.
You're doing, and they've managed to to keep it together
enough to be competitive and have a chance to win
in every game. In other words, he's been much more
of a player's coach this time around, and I think that,
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you know, the way he related to the players in
terms of this happening in the middle of the season,
I think went a long way in terms of keeping
you know, just keeping the guys playing for one another.
You know, he's some younger players are getting a little
bit more playing time now and they've had some success,
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and I think that's that's given everyone a little shot
in the arm. Bottom line is they've not found a
way to win a football game though, since early September.
And but it's been interesting. You know, from a fans perspective,
it's easy to walk away and call the season a wash.
Players got to keep playing, coaches got to keep coaching,
and for the most part, it seems like they've been
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able to pull that.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Off, you know, Chuck.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
That one thing also is that coach Petrino, there was
no denying it.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
There's no mystery about it.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
When he stepped back into the interim job, he made
no bones about the fact he certainly would like to
be considered to be reinstalled as the permanent head coach.
At the time when he said that Arkansas fans, it
sounded like there was real unanimity among Razorback fans that yes,
we'd like to have Coach Patrino back. A string of close,
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tough losses I know can change some folks mind, But
do you still get the feeling that a lot of
Arkansas fans would like Coach Patrino to be the quote
unquote permanent or the full time installed head coach when
this season is over, or do you think they want
to look out They would like somebody different and which
I know obviously is different than those who are making
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the actual decision on this.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
I think he has a certain number of people, and
it's a pretty good number of people that are in
his camp that are firmly in a camp and are
not going to weigh and have not been affected by
what's happened since he took over as the interim coach.
I think there are some who were very hopeful that
he would be able to immediately turn back the clock.
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That's not a realistic expectation, but I think some people
were hopeful of that. I think maybe those people perhaps
have moved away, but no, I think there's a significant
number of people who are still very firmly in his camp,
and you know, they feel like that, you know, he's
fought this fight with one hand tied behind his back,
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and they've given an opportunity to, you know, put his
program in place that he would have success. The one
thing that I will say about coach Patrino that's been
interesting to me, you know, lots of times, most of
the time, you know, until this year, when there's been
an interim coach, it's been for a game or two.
This time it was for seven games. He came in
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and I mean he became the head coach. The next
day he moved into the head coaches office, furniture got
moved around, things looked a lot different. The next day
he assumed the role of the head coach. He's done
the television show every week, he's done the radio show
every week. He's done He's basically done it the way
he did it when he was here before. And he
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assumed the head coach's job, and he did not make
any bones about the fact that he wanted to be
the head coach. Now, ultimately, what they decide, I have
no idea. I think the decision is going to come
fairly soon. But it's been interesting to watch how all
this has evolved because this year, more than any other,
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we're seeing coaches. I mean, arkansall fired their first coach
before September was over, So you know, that leaves a
lot of the football season left to play out.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Visiting with Chuck Barrett, play by play voice of the
Arkansas race Back right, let me let me let me
get your thoughts on some of the specifics of this team, because,
like I said, everybody looks at the thing, see the talent.
I'll start with Taylor Green simply because the long ones
know him.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
They've they've gone.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Up against him, and so they understand him how you know.
And he's posted some really impressive numbers. How about your
thoughts on the season that the Razorbacks quarterback has had.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Taylor's had a good year. Unfortunately for Taylor with this
team that's been However, Taylor goes so go the Razorbacks
that day. There are times when I see the weight
of the season doing just that, weighing on him. He
didn't have his best game Black and but still Taylan
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has the ability to change a game. He has that
type of talent and he's done that this year and
a lot of the games that Arkansas has lost that
have been close is because you know, Taylor's kept it close.
You know he's performed above and beyond. So you know,
Taylor's had a lot of responsibility since he got here.
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Uh he's been the best on a team that wasn't
all that great, and he's been called upon to do
some things that you know, sometimes you can pull off
and sometimes you can't. But Taylor's been I mean, when
he leaves here, he's going to hold a lot of records,
and you know they don't just pass those out, so
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you've got to give him credit for that. I think
people look at the one lost record sometimes and that's
how they determine success or failure. But Taylor's a really,
really good football player and he's given Arkansas a chance
to win a lot of games, and he's still their
best chance to win.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
The one thing I was going to ask you about
the wide receivers and I am, and you've got no
make a blake with fifty one catches in CJ. Brown
with twenty four and Raylan Sharp with thirty four and
so there's there's good stuff there. But I got to
tell you when I was recording Sark Show last night.
He continues to be amazed by Rohan Jones the tight end,
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because he says, here's a guy that's got thirteen catches
for four hundred and eleven yards and four touchdowns this year.
A Montana State transfer as well. Tell folks a little
bit about that the two tight ends between him and
Jaydon Platt.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
You know, Jones is an interesting guy. He averages that
as you alluded to their thirty one yards plug for cats,
thirteen catches. You know, the logic says, man, maybe you
ought to throw him the ball a little bit more. Uh,
but you know Platts got good numbers two. You know,
Jones is an interesting stories from Montreal. Uh. Speaks both
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you know, French and English obviously, and started his football
career in Maine, went to Montana State where he was
part of a national championship or a team that played
for the national championship there, and then he comes to Arkansas.
He is freakishly good in terms of being an athlete. Fast.
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You know, he's a good blocker. You know, you need
more than just a pass catcher out of that position,
and he's been so good at that, you know, the blocking,
all the things that come with that position. When they've
gone with two tight ends, dem Platt had been on
the field a lot flat played at A and M,
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and both of them have been really really good players.
When Arkansas throws to the tight end, generally it's a
big play. There's a big play coming, and yeah, Jones
is He's pretty special, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
If there's one thing that we've learned I think chuck
out of this transfer portal era, is that there are
good players to be found at virtually any.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
School across the country.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
You mentioned Jones of course coming from Montana State at
the FCS level, and then I look at the running
back Mike Washington, who was nine hundred and fifteen yards
And if nothing else new Mexico State has given us
Diego Pavia, Eli Stowers and Mike Washington three big time
produce users. Pavia and Stowars for Vanderbuilding, Washington for the razorbacks.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
They all come from that Jerry kill Tree. Yeah, uh,
Jerry Jerry Kills the guy he's on Vanderbilt staff. Now
he's become a denominator. And all those guys, Jerry Kill
is a great football coach and a great evaluator of talent.
And you know Washington, he started out at Buffalo and
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had a couple of really I guess two or three
really good years at Buffalo. He's from New York State,
and he and and again it's kind of like Jones.
It's the modern college football player. He goes from his
home state, you know, two thirds of the way across
the country, uh ends up in New Mexico and then
ends up at Arkansas. And I'll tell you, Mike Washington's
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become an NFL prospect this year, not just because of
the way he runs the ball, but the way he
protects the quarterback. If you can protect the quarterback, well,
let me put it this way, you can be a
great running back. But if you can't protect the quarterback,
you have no shot to be a pro. You get
your quarterbacker, you're gonna be able to streak the next day.
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He's gotten so good at all the aspects of being
a running back, catching the swing pass obviously, you know,
being one who understands blocking and how to playoff blocks,
but just his ability to protect his all around game
has made him a true NFL prospect. But yeah, New
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Mexico State, whatever they had cooking out there was prick
the recipe because those were some good players.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Good water in Las Cruses, I suppose.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Yeah, there's two guys on the defense I want to
ask you about. And again I'll defer to Sark because
he immediately went to these guys when we were talking
about Quincy Roads coming off the edge with his eight
sacks and what he's done at the defensive end spot
fifteen tackles for losses and then Exavien Sorry at linebacker
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seventy one tackles and a pit and two and a
half sacks and all the and the filling up the
number charts. It looks like these two guys, if they're
not the leaders of the Arkansas defense, are certainly among them,
aren't they.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Well they are, in fact, I would say they probably
are the two. You know, Story is an interesting guy.
You know, when when they changed head coaches, they also
you know, changed some guys on the defensive staff, and
Story was for the most part, you know, he was
an inside guy. Uh, they line him up some on
the edge now and uh, they'll go with three down
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linemen and have Story stand up they they've changed some
of the things that they do, and I'm sure you
know that's been reflected on film when the coaches Texas
have looked at it. And and so he's he's doing
you know, a little bit more. They tried to free
him up maybe to do a few more things, uh
than than than maybe he was doing before. But he's
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been the leading tackler pretty much since he got here.
The Roads is a guy that early in the season
really slashed and then he kind of went through a
period there where you know, there's an ebb and a
flow to the season and he kind of, you know,
it wasn't flowing quite so good. But the last month
or so, he's really become you know, an effective pass rusher.
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And when you know Arganzau has been able to you know,
the improvements on defense have been you know, they've been
small steps, they've been incremental. It doesn't always involve all
eleven guys, but he's one guy that has really made
improvement in terms of getting to the quarterback and has
really made himself into more of a pro prospect than
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he was maybe at the start of the year.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I think I know the answer this question, but i'd
love to hear it from you. We know what the
history and the rivalry between these two means to Razorback fans.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Uh. And and when they.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Get together in Fayetteville, as they have the last couple
of times, Uh, it's been pretty spirited. And uh this
will be the first time market so it's come to
Austin since two thousand and eight.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
How even in the midst.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Of or heading down the home stretch of a two
and eight season, what he's safe to say Arkansas fans
are looking forward to this one, a chance to go
after the Longhorns in Austin.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
You know, it's interesting, Craig. The coaching search is what's
dominated the discussion here. I'm not gonna lie to the
fact that there two and eight does take some of
the shine off of it. This is a generational thing.
People who are old enough to remember Arkansas and Texas
on the third Saturday every October. They're excited about this game.
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People that aren't want to know who the new coach
is going to be. So that's that's that's kind of
where the dividing line draws. Sure, But yes, I mean
when you talk about the history of this rivalry, the
history of you know, Arkansas and Texas, and you know,
you've got to go back a few years, honestly, you know,
for it to you know, to find the really meaningful game.
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But for those who are old enough to remember, they
remember very well. But for the guys who who don't remember,
they're just trying to find out who the new coach
is gonna be. It's just a sign of the.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Time, sure it is.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Before I let you go ask you a little bit
about John Calipartis group, let's let's talk about.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
The razorback basketball.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Now.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Texas fans are familiar in SEC fans with Travon Brazil.
But these two freshmen, Malik Thomas and Darius Acuff. How
about they're the two leading scores right now in this
four and one start for the Hogs. How about your
early impressions of what you've seen on the hardwood.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
They're really good, you know, for those enough for those
old enough to remember when Arkansas and Texas was a
big basketball thing every year, Acups, Lee Mayberry and Thomas.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Is Todd Deck Oh good.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
If I were to be their style of games, I'm
not staying they're that good or you know they're gonna
be just like them I'm just saying, in terms of
what they do on the floor acups, what Mayberry was
and Thomas is what Day was. Wow, these these guys
have a chance to be really, really good. Now. Look,
this is a team right now that's going through some
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growing pains. We have all seen what they can do
with the ball. They got to get more connected on defense.
That's why the last two ball games have been a
little bit closer than people thought they would be. They
got to get more connected there. They got to work
on setting harder screens on the offensive end, freeing one
another up for shots. But there's a lot of talent
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on this team. There's just a there's an abundance of talent.
And they've got four returnees from a year ago. All
of them were good, not just guys that were, you know,
sitting on the end of the bench. They were contributors
then and they're back now. So he's got a good team.
It's just a question of how it comes together when
we get to the time after the first of the
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year and where they are in March.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
I hear you, Yeah, it makes sense.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Chuck Barrett does an outstanding job as the play by
play voice of the Arkansas Razorbacks. It's always great to
visit with you, and it'll be cool to see you
on Saturday. Safe travel and look forward to seeing you
down here for a chance.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Yeah. Hey, I love coming to Austin, so I'm looking
forward to being down there. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
All right, thanks, that's Chuck Barrett joining us here in
the Arkansas Razorbacks play by play voice. We will be
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