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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is a podcast from wor from Embrywhere USA.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
It's Foxed Across America with Jimmy Baylor Boom Back in action.
Third and final hour of Fox Across America, sponsored by
the fine folks at Previagen. Previagen of course for your brain.
And if you're covering politics day in and day out
like I am, sometimes you feel like you might be
the only one left with a brain. I mean, it
is a mess out there on these streets. But we're
(00:26):
gonna get out the radio mop clean it up. Eight
at eight seven and eight nine nine one zero. Caroline Sunshine.
She is a former Trump twenty twenty four campaign worker.
She is a regular here on the Fox Channel. If
you see her on Fox News, Fox Business. Her and
I were on Larry Kudlow together last week. We had
a great time talking about the NBA betting scandal, which
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by the way, has kind of disappeared from the news.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
What the wild wide worldless sportses are going on here?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
And I will tell you what's going on in this hour.
I said this last week. I even said this on
Jesse water Show. I said, this NBA scandal is the
biggest story in the world. But it's going to be
like the Coldplay kiss cam. It was like the only
thing anyone on earth talked about for forty eight hours
and then we forgot it. Ever happened. The difference to
the Coldplay kiss cam is you eventually run out of
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memes to post and Coldplay jokes to tell. In this instance,
there's another reason for that story to leave the news.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Money money, money, money, money, money, money.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
There is a lot of money involved, and the American
people believing that our sports have been corrupted, that our
propossessions have been proposition bets have been fixed, becomes a
major liability for every major network that carries these sports
and banks on not only the integrity of the games,
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but the integrity of the bets.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Ah, you have a good man.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
They don't want a story on ESPN all day about
how some of the bets were fixed while they're advertising
their online gambling site at the bottom of the screen. Okay,
we covered this on Fox New Saturday night. This weekend,
ESPN is reporting on a breaking scandal with a bet
ESPN add at the bottom of the screen. Imagine you
went to an intervention and the guy leading it smelled
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like scotch and had the hiccups you might be like,
are they really invested in this intervention? And the answer
is no, ESPN is not. None of the major sports
leagues are. They got in bed with gambling knowing full
well that they were going to have to accept a
lot of indignities to the sport. But as long as
the bottom line, you know, the envelopes were full, they
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could make it all work paying in cash. And that
story is a wall and it involves NBA Hall of Famers, coaches,
players for crime families, for NBA teams. Has anyone heard
anything about it anywhere on TV today? Answer would be no.
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And it's not even like the news is that juicy?
So you realize there is a way, you know, for
money to get its way. That's basically what it comes
down to. Big money really does drive a lot of things.
You know, the old saying if it don't make dollars,
it don't make sense. Well, it don't make dollars to
sit here and go, well, they were fixing bets, okay,
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which means it don't make sense to spend all day
reporting on it. Is it going to come back up
in the news? Yeah? Are there probably more players and
celebrities involved? Yeah, But is everybody going to talk about
it in the meantime, No, we might on this show.
The government's gonna jump all over your head, Jimbo, I
don't know. I think the government's the one breaking up
the racket. So I think we're just gonna keep on
chatting as new information makes it. This way, you got
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some big testicles to pull this all broke. A lot
of people feel that way. But as we get Underwagh
in this hour, not even talking so much about the NBA, Okay,
we're just talking about the other form of corrupt gambling politics,
the stock market. Mikey Cheryl, who's running to be the
governor of New Jersey, was asked on Charlemagne's podcast if
(03:58):
she made seven million dollars trading stocks, and she said,
I don't know, she's not real smart. Now, she has
since amended that answer to say, well, my husband trades
the stocks, and you know, I wouldn't be paying attention
on a day in a day out, bacious, But it
turns out we did make some money and blah blah
blah blah blah. This is the biggest schmuck I've ever
met ever. Okay, but understand, I mean, that's a big
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part of our politics. The reason I get on the
show and I take a lot of shot at Republicans
is I want everybody listening to understand that politics is
not you against your Democrat buddy. Politics is voters against governments.
That's what real politics are supposed to be in this country.
It's supposed to be about us, the citizens who pay
for the people to go to Washington and do us dirty.
(04:42):
Did not get that get away with not enacting legislation
that's beneficial to us, But line times out of ten
seems like it represents the interest of their lobbyists more
than it does the people who actually sent them to power.
This is politics as usual. That's why Mom Donnie has
a good shot at even winning. Do you that much
money financed and subsidized zoron Mom Donnie's campaign, And it
(05:02):
ain't grassroots. It ain't little poor New Yorkers sending them
five dollars checks and twenty dollars checks and holding lemonade sales.
They're not doing that. Ninety percent of the money comes
from political action groups outside to the state of New York.
So Mom Donnie, which has risen to TikTok and all
kinds of social media prominence with the help of outsiders,
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will now become the face of a city where the
people left with the bill are the insiders, meaning the
folks who actually live here. A lot of the Liberals
voting for Mom Donnie, you don't even live here. They're registered
to vote here, but they own houses in the Hampton's
and Martha's Vineyard and everything else. And they'll show up
next week just to stick it to Republicans and vote
for Mom Donnie. But at the end of the day,
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they're actually sticking into the city that they purportedly care about.
D headless the world common do. I'm gonna give you
some Mom Donnie audio. Okay, this is not good audio.
This is him in September of twenty twenty three, more
of the anti semat rhetoric. Mom Donnie flat out saying, Okay,
the NYPD is out there, you know, trampling people. And
(06:08):
you understand if the NYPD is trampling you, it's not
just the NYPD, it's the IDF, it's the Jews, it's
people with the dirty mind that think like that. Here
he is Clip three.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
For anyone to care about these issues, we have to
make them. We have to make clear that when the
food of the NYPD is on your neck, it's been
laced by the ideas. You're in a country where those
connections are bound, especially in New York City, you have
(06:41):
so many opportunities to make clear the ways in which
fast trouble over there is tied to capitals interests over here.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Wow, you're looney. I mean, seriously, so many ways to
make clear that the struggle over there in Israel is
tied to capital's interest over here. I mean, the NYPD
behaves a certain way because financial interest in Israel want
them to do that here in New York. I mean, dude,
(07:10):
I'm sick and tired, but here is the reality. Okay.
A lot of Democrats don't agree with his socialist principles.
A lot of Democrats, to be clear, don't hate Jews.
They don't. Does a significant percentage of the Democrat Party
hate Jews? Yes, there's the reason Josh Shapiro wasn't the
VP under Kamala. She flat out admits it in her book. Okay,
(07:30):
they were worried about losing the swing state of Dearborn
of Michigan because of the raging anti Semitic population in
Dearborn Michigan. They didn't want to lose Michigan over the
people in Dearborn who hate the Jews. You'd want to
put j a Jew on the ticket, but lo and behold,
Josh Shapiro is a pretty popular governor of Pennsylvania at
the time. Would have been a much better alternative to
Tim Waltz, who just you know, he is the arm
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movement of an inflatable guy outside a car wash or
weird Richard Simmons impersonator, and you know, you understand. And
Waltz was the guy who burst onto the scene and
said jd Vance made love to his couch. What the
hell did you? You say, I don't know, But that
would only make jd Vance more historic. He'd be our
first presidential candidate who was bisectional. Stole that one from
(08:14):
my TV show. But as we say, you're having this conversation,
you dig that in politics or on Momdanni is about
to become the face of the Democratic Party if he
wins at a national level, which means they will start
to mimic mimic this practice of getting out there and
saying America is a racist hell hole and it's full
of Islamophobes. This is the problem they have. Okay, this
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is real, and I'm telling you this. I understand politics
on a level no one covering it does. And the
reason being is I'm not as smart as them. I'm
not saying that to be self deprecating. The people who
cover this for a living day in and day out
can tell you which county voted what way in twenty
twenty four, in twenty twenty and how that'll change based
on the shifting demographics and the key issues affecting the
local races. That stuff really really matters. But what I
(09:00):
talked to you about is large messaging campaigns, is the
prevailing sentiments that shape a particular election. The Democrats have
chosen to make zoron Mom Donnie's closing argument about Islamophobia
a new form of racism to accuse the entire country
of why are they doing that, Jimbo, It's because saying
(09:21):
where the clan isn't working anymore. Okay, that's why this
is the new frontier of civil rights. They tried the
everybody hates black people thing, only to watch Black Americans
vote for Trump in record numbers. They tried to do
the well trans people are under attack, only to hear
(09:42):
people laugh at them and go, no, they're not. Nobody
cares if your trends. We're not trying to erase you.
You want to play sports, We just want you to
play in your own division. Okay, you want to go
to the bathroom, use the one assigned to your bio,
loot to you at birth. We don't want sex offenders
in women's rooms like they're running on in New Hampshire.
So what they've realized is that one is moving the needle.
The trans issue is an eighty twenty issue for Republicans.
(10:03):
Eighty percent of Americans believe that biological men should not
be competing in women's sports. Eighty percent of Republicans excuse me,
of the country of the electorate. Eighty percent of the
electorate believes biological men shouldn't be in the women's room. Okay,
so the Democrats can't run on. We'll protect the trans
agenda because everybody's like, why just let the trans people
(10:23):
be trans? Okay, if you're eighteen, do anything you want
to your body. It's a free country, Okay, and go
enjoy your life. You plur a bassoon amount of many one.
No one bought the idea that this was a civil
rights frontier. No one bought the idea that Black America's
freedom is on the ballot. Okay, because a lot of
prominent Black Americans mock the Democrat Party for failing to
(10:45):
meet the moment when it comes to looking out for
Black Americans. How many times have you heard this Charles
Barkley clip on my show?
Speaker 3 (10:51):
The reason I think the Democratic Party missed a Biden
President Biden is losing black bosas they only care about
black people every four years.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Wow, that's Charles Barkley saying Democrats only care about black
people every four years. I agree with that. So the
problem is black people know that. You know, the schools
in this country are failing. Seventy percent of our high
school kids that go to inner city schools cannot read
at the level of their grade. Okay, so they've failed
black kids and minority kids, Latino kids, all kinds of
(11:23):
minorities that go to inner city schools. And yeah, a
lot of white kids just the same. But the point
is those schools are failing, and the common denominator amongst
a lot of minorities is they don't have the money
to go to private school. So when the Democrats get
in the way of something like school choice. They're ostensibly
trapping minority families and failing schools. They don't care. Okay,
just vote for us because the other guys are racist
(11:44):
against minorities. That worked for a really long time. But
in this last election, when people looked at what we
were told was a battle for the soul of our nation,
you gotta vote Democrat. Do you have a problem figuring
out whether you're Premi or Trump? And you ain't black?
But when Black America saw Biden get elected, only to
watch their unemployment rate go up, their inflation rate go up,
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their murder rate go up, their screw proficiency rate go down,
they said, Wow, what do we have to vote? What
do we have to show for voting Democrats? And it
started a conversation that made it possible for Trump to
run on his record. Trump did not get a record
level of Black voters by going, hey, black people, that's
what the Democrats do. Trump just catered to humanity instead
of identity. Okay it no one's identity is immune from humanity, okay,
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And no one's identity has a monopoly on humanity. What
I mean by humanity is economy. The economy, Hey, we're
going to make more money. We're going to cut your taxes.
We're going to shrink the size of the government. We're
not going to subsidize all these dopey things on the
other side of the world that cost you more money
and drive up inflation, because government spending is the root
cause of inflation. We're not going to do that. It's
just a rising tide that lifts all votes. If you're
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a human being, hey, no more criminals on our streets.
We're going to deport the murderers and rapists. Okay. There
is not a single solitary race that holds the monopoly
on benefiting from that issue. We're all safer as a
result of it. Okay, So when Trump goes out there
and caters to humanity and a rising tide that lifts
all boats, it becomes appealing to people because what democrats
(13:13):
in the era of identity politics, for god is, we're
all the same. Like we might look different, but we're
all the same. You want to make money, you want
to eat food, you want to have a place to live,
you want to get a little something something in the
sack at the end of the night. Oh yes, I've
read about that in the Bible, but none of that
is exclusive to any individual race. That's the point. And
(13:34):
once the conversation began about substantive issues like delivering for
these minority communities, it made it really easy for Trump
to start to win record levels of votes. Okay, so,
knowing that they've lost their grip on the minority vote
and the whole America is really systemically racist and we're
just a giant klu Klux clan rally, the Democrats embracing
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Mom Donnie are pivoting to the new form of racism. Well,
it's actually just Aslamophobia. He didn't realize about America. Don't
forget that ant that he imagined and made up after
September eleventh. Wasn't comfortable on the subway because she was Muslim. Well,
everybody else wasn't comfortable on the subway because a bunch
of Muslims killed three thousand New Yorkers. And again, we're
not making it about the religion, it's about the terrorist acts.
(14:17):
But Mom Donnie's the kind of guy who's trying to
use pretend institutionalized racism as a justification for putting a
Jew hating racist in charge of New York City. Okay,
And is it gonna work. Yeah, I actually think it's
gonna which isn't good. There are checks on his power. Okay,
and that's the good news. Okay. The bad news is
(14:39):
if it works, other people are going to try to
mimic it going forward. But the hard lesson they're going
to learn in the long run is the same lesson
America learned in the twenty twenty four election. You can
only call us racist so long before we kind of
tune you out and focus on the real issues. Race
is not where the line is drawn. Is God's side
(14:59):
and the on the side. He's the host. You shouldn't
get too close to a lot of things about me.
You don't know anything about that. Things you wouldn't understand,
things he couldn't understand. There it is Fox Across America
with Jimmy Thaler. Were gonna be talking to Caroline Sunshine
in the next segment. Right now, we were having some
you and me talk about Mom Donnie. The one report
(15:20):
is that the polymarket gambling site odds are plunging, with
the hot rumor being that outside interests might have driven
them up by placing a lot of wagers on Mom
Donnie and creating a sentiment that it was inevitable that
he would win the next election. Now I don't know
what to believe. Traditionally the betting markets have been very accurate,
(15:41):
but it would make sense to me that you could
use them to manipulate sentiment, because that's what they do
with the polls a lot of times when a poll
comes out, like say last week, we had this poll
that was like, well, Curtis Slee when he needs to
drop out of the race because if he does, Andrew
Como has a shot at winning. And you go, oh,
everybody gets sleeve out of here. But then you come
to find out out what that the poll was paid
(16:02):
for by the people supporting hansy Andy Cuomo Andy Andy,
and it turns out that poll might not be reliable.
Then there's a poll that comes out over the weekend.
I think Rudy Giuliani posted it. He was like, you know,
if Como gets out of the race, Slava could win
this thing. But then you find out that Mayor Giuliani
might have an interest in sli Wa winning this thing.
(16:23):
So it's hard to take it at face value. But
if there's a third effort at manipulation, yes, then that
might be Mom Donnie and people betting the gambling markets.
That being said, a lot of the polling and a
broad swath of the polling shows Mom Donnie winning this
thing pretty easily. So my guess is I believe he's
going to win. I think most people I know do
at this point. What the resolute hope is between now
(16:43):
an election day, the surgeon early voting of senior citizens,
specifically senior citizens, the most relying voting, reliable voting block
we have in this country. They are apparently turning out
in big numbers in New York City's early voting. Now,
the problem remains, and Bill Hemmer talked about this earlier
on the show. If you missed it, can get the
podcast at Fox Across America dot com. We don't know
(17:05):
who these seniors are. We know there's an early voting
turnout for seniors. But are they these seniors that you know,
moved here from other countries and don't like the idea
that New York might closely resemble the type of thing
it fled, or are they the self hating white seniors
who showed up to the No King's protest and wasted
a Saturday pretending we had a king in Washington, DC,
(17:25):
when we don't have anything of the sort. And the
truth is we're not going to know that until we
start to get some exit polling on election night. So
it's really fascinating stuff. But this whole idea that Mom
Donnie's closing message is about racism and it's lamophobia and
how he's gonna make New York a place where listen,
(17:48):
New York has every race known to ma'am, it's the
most diverse place in the world. So this seems like
a bit of a reach by a guy like Zora
mom Donald last night. Well, you're in luck. Mikey has booked.
He'm a major California baseball fan. Unfortunately she roots for
the Angels always. This is like the movie twenty seven.
Dresses kind of a bridesmaid in this world series, but
(18:10):
you're America's bride. When it comes to the media, they
all love you. Caroline Sunshine in the house and the
crowd goes wild. Hey girl, how you doing. You want
to have a funny laugh about Larry Cudlow, our buddy.
This is the last time I saw you. We have
big NBA scandal breaks last Thursday. Caroline and I go
on Cuddlow to talk about it. Friday, he pulls me
into his office and he goes, hey, I want to
(18:31):
thank you guys for coming by talking about that yesterday.
He's like, you know, I've dealt with a lot of
addiction in my life, drugs, everything like that, because I've
never heard an addict talk about their vice the way
you did. And I go, well, I don't go to
Gamba's anonymous, and he goes, well, maybe you should. It's like, okay, Larry,
let me get out of here. I'm gonna go to
a meeting. But I feel like we gambled in one.
We did good TV together. Give us credit for that.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Amen, thank you.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
All right, thank you? Because I know the hater I'm kidding.
There's no haters. They're very supportive on The Cudlow Show.
They are the best. But it's great to see you.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Gambling is the only addiction I've never.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Had, I said. He said. He said that on the
Area because gambling's the only addiction I've never had. I
love that about Cudlow. He's the best. He does real
TV because he just asked you a question gets out
of the way and you can actually just talk. You know, well,
That's my favorite thing about radio too, is we have
room right now. Most TV hits are like, what do
you have? Why do you have it? Here's a picture
of the guy coming up next, here's a story underneath,
get out of here. Yes, that's what I was saying.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
I feel like so many viewers don't see the backside
of like in your set, it's cool, it's more of
the hang like you're saying, it's more, it's more real.
People don't see the backside of TV, and like it
sometimes feels very yes to your point on a.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yes, robbing an olda cosmetics, get in there with the
garbage bag, fill it up with some lipstick, and get
out of.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
There, which, by the way, is crazy. Like I mean
I was telling you, I'm you know, in LA, and
it came out to New York and like just going
into a CVS here, Like I thought LA was bad,
but you go into a CVS. You cannot buy toothpaste
in this city without having to have some. You feel
like a kindergartener. Right, you have to have somebody come
unlock the gate and say there's your toothpaste, Like it's
that is not normal.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yeah, And so the guy you have to flag down
a guy you're like, I want to buy toothpaste, and
he's miserable and he's got to grab a key and
unlock the toothpaste, and then he's got to unlock toothpaste.
He's gonna hand you the toothpaste and then you steal it.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
But it's like the time you're just made to feel
awful for being there wanting to purchase anything. He's upset,
like you have to hit the little button first to
pay button us aisle seventeen assistants need it. You know.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
My favorite part about that is then some local politician
gets on TV and goes, you know, crime is down. Yeah, yeah, no, yeah,
you can tell by the way we're barricading the cosmetics.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Or it's the opposite where it's a guy like mom
Donnie where he's like, yeah, like what's what's wrong with it?
Like he's not gonna do that's the thing, right It
is like on his crime policies, I'm thinking, like, does
everybody just want to live in a new normal where
we're not being able to buy a razor without having
somebody unlock a glass case?
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Is like we just accept that.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
It's like, oh yeah, this is civilist.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
You never shop. There was no impulse buying, right, you know,
just like see something on a shelf and get it.
You go there with a plan, you find the key operator.
It's so bananas, it's crazy. We're talking to Caroline Sunshine.
Here's mom Donnie on the Daily Show. I wanted to
play this. This is him kind of trying to make
sense of what he will and won't do. And he's saying,
you know, I've been accused of wanting to do like
(21:22):
things like defund the police. I mean, they didn't like
make that up, you know, like he's trying to claim
that all of the attacks against him are rooted in
some form of Islamophobia. I mean, no, it's not so
much your religion so much as you've taken the side
of Islamic terrorists. That's a problem, you know what I mean.
Or you know, the defund the police thing is his tweet.
It's not our idea. But I just want you to
hear this. It's clip one.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
You know, I don't begrudge New Yorkers who are skeptical
because they've also lived through tens of millions of dollars
of commercials telling them to fear me, right, you know,
they have lived through waking up every morning and seeing
a photo of me and just feeling like, oh my god,
because the language that's written around me as if I'm
a threat to the city that they love. And so
when I meet with them, just the mere fact that
(22:04):
I don't strangle them within thirty seconds, and then I
think it's it's an opportunity where, you know, I both
can tell them the things that I will do and
the things that I won't do.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Right.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I will freeze the rent, I won't defund the police.
I will make buses fast free, I won't decriminalize misdemeanors.
I will deliver universal childcare. I won't require everyone to
eat halal food.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
And I think he might've going to laugh at the
end of that. But the point is all of these things,
he's defending himself against our own positions, you know what
I mean, Like, I'm not going to defund the police,
all right, Well you tweeted that we should. So the
fact that we're like, hey, don't defund the police, is
not us being Islamophobic or anything. You know, it's just
anti the policy.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Wouldn't you say, oh yeah, same thing where he had
he apologized to the NYPD. I do get one of
these because while I'm here in New York, because if
mom Donnie wins, like, you're not gonna be able to
get these anymore. It's just gonna be f the police
hoodies and white Peter tank.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
That's just.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
You're going to sell that on the market. That's a relic.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Absolutely. But he like he looks into the camera and
he apologizes to the NYPD. But it's like, you literally
said that the NYPD.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Is racist, anti queer. It would be.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Queer liberation to defund, to defund them, and they're racist,
and it's like that's not really something that you can
kind of like easily apologize your your way out of.
But you know, he's he's an actor. I keep telling
everybody and maybe finally Jimmy, you listen, being a comedian, like,
the guy is an actor. He's a really good shtick.
(23:42):
You can tell he practices it very well in the mirror.
He's been super well prepared by whoever it is on
his team, and he just knows how to you know,
I don't say this as somebody who's like, oh, I'm
Dommy's great. I'm just telling you from a technical aspect,
how the guy is playing.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Baseball and winning.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Why he's going up to bat and like not striking out.
No matter what everybody's saying about him, He's just he's
an actor. He's got a really good shtick.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Caroline Sunshine is here. She says, if politics were America's
got talent, Mom Donnie can get to the next round.
Freezing the rent, though might not get our talent in
the next round. Price controls on grocery stores maybe not
the ideal, you know what.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
It's crazy though, So I was out. I went to
Queen's yesterday because there's there's this voter group that I'm
interested in. It's people that voted for Trump in the
presidential but then they voted for Mom Donnie in the primary,
and yeah, really interesting.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
And I was asking them about this.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
I was like, you know, hey, like what about his
policies on freezing the rent or like his policies on crimeer,
like you really want to you know, like decriminalized prostitution,
Like are you good with all these things? And everyone's attitude,
their their vibes were very much. I mean, yeah, I'm
kind of willing to risk it. It was I'm just
so fed up with the state of things in New
York City. This guy's kind of talking about affordability. That's
(25:06):
my main thing. I'll risk it on everything else. And
I just thought that was interesting because that's not what
you're hearing on television or not. But when you go
talk to people, people are like, I'm just so done
with nobody caring about me.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Y'all risk it, I'll try it.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Which is so sad that we put voters in the state.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
The political equivalent of the pregnant women taking Thailand all.
Like Trump said, don't do it all. You know, what
did you see?
Speaker 3 (25:29):
He made time to tweet that again. Yeah, that's the
best thing about Trump. He's on this like foreign visit,
he's meeting with world leaders, he's doing deals, and then
you go check truth Social and he's like Thailand all
pregnant women.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
No, he was literally on the plane lift of an
aircraft carrier dropping truth social tweets as he parachuted into
a meeting with the troops at three am this morning.
He's live tweeting, you know, so it's real. We're talking
to Caroline Sunshine. I mean, you worked on this campaign,
You've been around this sort of thing. I think that
(26:01):
what Trump is doing on the other side of the
world right now is obviously historic. I think back here
at home, we're just watching the new form of grievance
take shape. You know how we went into like no Kings,
and obviously that didn't really stick. Mom. Donnie's closing message
really is Islamophobia, and that's what he's talking about. Did
you hear that made up story about the ant that
now turns out? I want to play this for the listeners.
(26:21):
He now clarifies it was his dad's cousin, not his
aunt he was speaking about. But the reason it's so
laughable is regardless of who it is. Okay, I'm sorry
you're uncomfortable on the subway. The rest of us were
really uncomfortable because they blew up three thousand people, you know.
But here he is clarifying. And again, if the closing
messages is lamophobia, and that's a real message. You don't
(26:43):
have to make up stories. But he's making them up.
And this speaks to your analysis of him being an actor.
So listen to this act. Listen to the rewrite here
it is clip too.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yes, that's I was speaking about my aunt. I was
speaking about Zanta Fui, my father's cousin.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Passed away a few years ago, and.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
For the takeaway for my more than ten minute address
about Islamophobia in this race and in the city to be,
the question of my aunt tells you everything about Andrew
Cuomo and his inability to reckon with a crisis of
his own making.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
But it's I get the Cuomo shot just the same,
but it's a made up story.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
The best part is he's clearly caught in a lie. Yeah,
and he doubles down because it's I mean again, I'm
just I'm laughing at this because it's funny, like he
doubles down, he doesn't apologize, he's clearly caught in a lie,
and instead he just pivots to and you know what
it was actually not in It was a cousin and
she's dead now, so we can't even.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Go ask You can't even get him there.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
You can't even go ask her because she's dead. And
it's offensive, frankly that you're now talking about my dad, like,
shame on you for catching me in a lie about
my aunt.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
It was actually then, dude, if I come if I guys,
if I come home tonight covered in glitter, smelling like
a pirate, hooker and Jenny goes, where the hell are you?
And I go, why because I'm white? That's what he's doing.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
It's such as there's a stick, like everyone kinda is
trying to mom. Donnie's such a phenomenon in a way
that everyone's trying to analyze him and you know, label him.
We're always as socialized and blah blah. Obviously it's like
and nothing's really sticky. But it's like, guys, it's because
he's a theater kid. He's a theater kid who figured
out how to take his act on the road to
get political power. Like he reminds me of like kids
(28:38):
that I did model you n with in college, where
like they really think they're smarter than everybody else in
the room.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
They've they've rehearshed the stick.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
They think they're smarter than you, and they're just gonna
like keep writing it until.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
You catch on.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Was like, he's he's a fraud, really, I mean he's
a what His parents are both like they have money,
fine money, you know, and his dad's like a who.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Says Abraham Lincoln inspired Hitler right like his death it's extreme,
that's extreme. Parents really do shape your worldview if you
grow up the house where the guy at the head
of the dinner table said Hitler was inspired by Abe Lincoln.
You probably developed some anti American sentiments.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Maybe you think you think and same thing with the
whole like what is he eats his food with his hands, right,
But it's like that's an act too, Like that's not.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Real, but the whole thing's fake.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Yeah, that's what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
He is like this decade's Obama and that he's a
hot topic candidate. It's cool to say you're voting for him.
It's like a it's like flair you put on a jacket.
It's like a button you put on that you bought
it hot topic or Spencer gifts and you're like, I'm
one of these.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
It's I'm glad that you brought that up because that also,
to me, is accurate.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Like him and.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Obama have a very similar shtick. They grew up very similar.
They're the child of like very progressive academics, and then
they figured out how to have a good act. Yeah,
and it's an act that is like likable, it's personable,
it's kind of fun, it's smart, it's quick. Like that's
exactly what Obama's act was yes.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
And you could emotionally blackmail a lot of guilty white people.
They're like, yeah, we've got to save that. It's so crazy,
don't coney where Caroline Sunshine is ticking around, the host
who always has gifts for his listeners, get some.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Grass, a few efferts say a little nosey and black
of the.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Knight got box across America. Caroline Sunshine riding shotgun. Hey girl,
she is from California, where Gavin Newsom grew up a
poor black child. If you've been watching the podcast this week,
it's so funny. Well you talk about acting like nope,
we're living in the death of shame. There are people
among us who actually don't feel shame, like they don't
(30:47):
go that's bad.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Yeah, And then by the way, they're like chronic cases,
like there's no the hopeless you know.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Yeah, no, it's just the thing. They've made peace with
that because it's the factory setting in the machine.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
You have to be a certain level of shameless to
do what they do, like to get up and be
Gavin Newsome every day. There's a certain level of shamelessness.
It is required.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
I love it so much though, because he's on this
NBA podcast. He's like, yeah, man, Mac and Cheese. Wonder
Brett Yo, it was a struggle man. Dad's hanging out
with the Getties. He's actually in like his childhood Christmas photo.
He's sitting on a person. They use this furniture. It's
like they felt kidding. She goes, I haven't seen that. Reason. Well,
(31:28):
there's a reason, Caroline. Here is Kamala Harris. Though we're
talking about California politicians. I wanted to get into this too.
It's cliped thirty seven.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
When are they going to see a woman in charge
in the White House in their lifetime?
Speaker 2 (31:39):
For sure? Boy? Could it be you? Possibly? Have you
made a decision yet?
Speaker 1 (31:45):
No, I have not.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
But you say in your book, I'm not done. That
is correct. I am not done.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
I have lived my entire career a life of service,
and it's.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
In my bones and there are many ways to serve.
I've not decided yet what I will do in the
future beyond what I am doing right now, which is
also still a little meandery. She's not done, Jimmy. What
you don't realize is if you saw that on camera,
she was talking to the woman coming to take her
wine glass.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
I'm not finished. I'm not finished.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
It's in my bones. There are many ways to serve.
She's actually lecturing her about how she presented the glass.
You can come in on a flat tray, you can
hand it to me.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Ironically, I actually think if she leaned into her just
like Wino persona, she'd probably get more votes.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
That's what a lot of people wrong, Carolyn Sunshine and Studio,
even the news. Something he grew up rich. That's actually
not a bad thing if you lean into it. Yeah,
Trumps pretending, yeah, pretending you didn't. I think Mitt Romney
gave Trump the blueprint because when Mitt Romney ran, he
tried to pretend he was poor.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Yeah, and then had a personality.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
There was that and he wore the mom jeans. Do
you remember that? And what's funny is you know he
ran away from his success. Trump, as you know, runs
like a rapper. He parks a private jet in front
of the podium and as a supermodel bring him on stage.
I mean Trump is.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Like, yeah, I'm a little bit richer than what they
say it is.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
But he does like he's a showman.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Like people love it, they love it.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yeah, But that's what Kama is getting wrong. If she
said I'm a day drunk mess, but I love this country.
I vote for that.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
I think a lot of people would be like I
feel seen heard and like me too.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
I am seriously like, think about this. If Prince Harry
and Megan Markle showed up and instead of being like, wa,
we're victims, will never get the crown and they were
and they were like, actually we inherit like half a
billion dollars and we don't do I'd be like, I
want to follow them on Instagram. This is amazing, you
guys just hang out my favorite. Yeah, it would be amazing.
But what happened is in that era where they tried
(33:52):
to fancy victimhood is currency, it duped a lot of
successful people into running away from the things that were
going right in their lives.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Yeah, and I don't even know. It gets to a
point too where like you just don't know who you
are anymore. But I see that in so many people
that run for office. They just they've been told that
they need to be. If they're to this, then they're
this voting group isn't gonna like them. If they're to that,
these people aren't gonna like them like you just see
people become they lose who they actually.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Are, and if you lean into the thing, it's funny.
I'll give Dave Chapelle credit for this. Dave Chappelle talked
about if Trump one in twenty sixteen. He did a
great bit where he goes, you know, they said to Trump,
you didn't pay taxes, and he goes, well, I have
good accountants. There were loopholes. They saved me money. He goes,
this man came out of that big house all the
powerful people are in and told us exactly what's going
(34:37):
on in there. Totally, but you respect him, like if
Newsom said, Hey, I grew up really rich and I'm
friends with the Getty's and I've just done well for myself,
and let me tell you how the rich people really
look at society and how we manipulate you and do
things and benefit ourselves. And you'd go, wow, that's like
so authentic. But because they were duped into thinking victim
hunt his currency, he wants you to believe he was
(34:58):
eating wonderbread.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Yeah, And it's like the do anything to be liked.
It's like you see that in actors sometimes, you know,
like I grew up in Disney Channel and LA and
all that. Like you see there's like a complex and
actor sometimes like they just want to be liked. Yeah,
and you see that in like the politics that plays
out in Hollywood. Like I don't really think half the
people in Hollywood have the actual politics they claim to,
but they want to be liked and they feel like
if they say, I just hate Donald Trump more than you,
(35:21):
maybe you'll like your part. That's also in the people
that run this country. It's fine for actors to have
that complex, not great for people who want to run
your country.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Amen, folks, we're talking to the great Caroline Sunshine. Get heute.
You don't want to, but the show's over. That was
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It's Foxed Across America with Jimmy Baylor Boom Back in action.
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And if you're covering politics day in and day out
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is a mess out there on these streets. But we're
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gonna get out the radio mop clean it up. Eight
at eight seven and eight nine nine one zero. Caroline Sunshine.
She is a former Trump twenty twenty four campaign worker.
She is a regular here on the Fox Channel. If
you see her on Fox News, Fox Business. Her and
I were on Larry Kudlow together last week. We had
a great time talking about the NBA betting scandal, which
(00:46):
by the way, has kind of disappeared from the news.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
What the wild wide worldless sportses are going on here?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
And I will tell you what's going on in this hour.
I said this last week. I even said this on
Jesse water Show. I said, this NBA scandal is the
biggest story in the world. But it's going to be
like the Coldplay kiss cam. It was like the only
thing anyone on earth talked about for forty eight hours
and then we forgot it. Ever happened. The difference to
the Coldplay kiss cam is you eventually run out of
(01:13):
memes to post and Coldplay jokes to tell. In this instance,
there's another reason for that story to leave the news.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Money money, money, money, money, money, money.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
There is a lot of money involved, and the American
people believing that our sports have been corrupted, that our
propossessions have been proposition bets have been fixed, becomes a
major liability for every major network that carries these sports
and banks on not only the integrity of the games,
(01:44):
but the integrity of the bets.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Ah, you have a good man.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
They don't want a story on ESPN all day about
how some of the bets were fixed while they're advertising
their online gambling site at the bottom of the screen. Okay,
we covered this on Fox New Saturday night. This weekend,
ESPN is reporting on a breaking scandal with a bet
ESPN add at the bottom of the screen. Imagine you
went to an intervention and the guy leading it smelled
(02:11):
like scotch and had the hiccups you might be like,
are they really invested in this intervention? And the answer
is no, ESPN is not. None of the major sports
leagues are. They got in bed with gambling knowing full
well that they were going to have to accept a
lot of indignities to the sport. But as long as
the bottom line, you know, the envelopes were full, they
(02:33):
could make it all work paying in cash. And that
story is a wall and it involves NBA Hall of Famers, coaches,
players for crime families, for NBA teams. Has anyone heard
anything about it anywhere on TV today? Answer would be no.
(02:53):
And it's not even like the news is that juicy?
So you realize there is a way, you know, for
money to get its way. That's basically what it comes
down to. Big money really does drive a lot of things.
You know, the old saying if it don't make dollars,
it don't make sense. Well, it don't make dollars to
sit here and go, well, they were fixing bets, okay,
(03:14):
which means it don't make sense to spend all day
reporting on it. Is it going to come back up
in the news? Yeah? Are there probably more players and
celebrities involved? Yeah, But is everybody going to talk about
it in the meantime, No, we might on this show.
The government's gonna jump all over your head, Jimbo, I
don't know. I think the government's the one breaking up
the racket. So I think we're just gonna keep on
chatting as new information makes it. This way, you got
(03:37):
some big testicles to pull this all broke. A lot
of people feel that way. But as we get Underwagh
in this hour, not even talking so much about the NBA, Okay,
we're just talking about the other form of corrupt gambling politics,
the stock market. Mikey Cheryl, who's running to be the
governor of New Jersey, was asked on Charlemagne's podcast if
(03:58):
she made seven million dollars trading stocks, and she said,
I don't know, she's not real smart. Now, she has
since amended that answer to say, well, my husband trades
the stocks, and you know, I wouldn't be paying attention
on a day in a day out, bacious, But it
turns out we did make some money and blah blah
blah blah blah. This is the biggest schmuck I've ever
met ever. Okay, but understand, I mean, that's a big
(04:20):
part of our politics. The reason I get on the
show and I take a lot of shot at Republicans
is I want everybody listening to understand that politics is
not you against your Democrat buddy. Politics is voters against governments.
That's what real politics are supposed to be in this country.
It's supposed to be about us, the citizens who pay
for the people to go to Washington and do us dirty.
(04:42):
Did not get that get away with not enacting legislation
that's beneficial to us, But line times out of ten
seems like it represents the interest of their lobbyists more
than it does the people who actually sent them to power.
This is politics as usual. That's why Mom Donnie has
a good shot at even winning. Do you that much
money financed and subsidized zoron Mom Donnie's campaign, And it
(05:02):
ain't grassroots. It ain't little poor New Yorkers sending them
five dollars checks and twenty dollars checks and holding lemonade sales.
They're not doing that. Ninety percent of the money comes
from political action groups outside to the state of New York.
So Mom Donnie, which has risen to TikTok and all
kinds of social media prominence with the help of outsiders,
(05:23):
will now become the face of a city where the
people left with the bill are the insiders, meaning the
folks who actually live here. A lot of the Liberals
voting for Mom Donnie, you don't even live here. They're registered
to vote here, but they own houses in the Hampton's
and Martha's Vineyard and everything else. And they'll show up
next week just to stick it to Republicans and vote
for Mom Donnie. But at the end of the day,
(05:45):
they're actually sticking into the city that they purportedly care about.
D headless the world common do. I'm gonna give you
some Mom Donnie audio. Okay, this is not good audio.
This is him in September of twenty twenty three, more
of the anti semat rhetoric. Mom Donnie flat out saying, Okay,
the NYPD is out there, you know, trampling people. And
(06:08):
you understand if the NYPD is trampling you, it's not
just the NYPD, it's the IDF, it's the Jews, it's
people with the dirty mind that think like that. Here
he is Clip three.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
For anyone to care about these issues, we have to
make them. We have to make clear that when the
food of the NYPD is on your neck, it's been
laced by the ideas. You're in a country where those
connections are bound, especially in New York City, you have
(06:41):
so many opportunities to make clear the ways in which
fast trouble over there is tied to capitals interests over here.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Wow, you're looney. I mean, seriously, so many ways to
make clear that the struggle over there in Israel is
tied to capital's interest over here. I mean, the NYPD
behaves a certain way because financial interest in Israel want
them to do that here in New York. I mean, dude,
(07:10):
I'm sick and tired, but here is the reality. Okay.
A lot of Democrats don't agree with his socialist principles.
A lot of Democrats, to be clear, don't hate Jews.
They don't. Does a significant percentage of the Democrat Party
hate Jews? Yes, there's the reason Josh Shapiro wasn't the
VP under Kamala. She flat out admits it in her book. Okay,
(07:30):
they were worried about losing the swing state of Dearborn
of Michigan because of the raging anti Semitic population in
Dearborn Michigan. They didn't want to lose Michigan over the
people in Dearborn who hate the Jews. You'd want to
put j a Jew on the ticket, but lo and behold,
Josh Shapiro is a pretty popular governor of Pennsylvania at
the time. Would have been a much better alternative to
Tim Waltz, who just you know, he is the arm
(07:53):
movement of an inflatable guy outside a car wash or
weird Richard Simmons impersonator, and you know, you understand. And
Waltz was the guy who burst onto the scene and
said jd Vance made love to his couch. What the
hell did you? You say, I don't know, But that
would only make jd Vance more historic. He'd be our
first presidential candidate who was bisectional. Stole that one from
(08:14):
my TV show. But as we say, you're having this conversation,
you dig that in politics or on Momdanni is about
to become the face of the Democratic Party if he
wins at a national level, which means they will start
to mimic mimic this practice of getting out there and
saying America is a racist hell hole and it's full
of Islamophobes. This is the problem they have. Okay, this
(08:37):
is real, and I'm telling you this. I understand politics
on a level no one covering it does. And the
reason being is I'm not as smart as them. I'm
not saying that to be self deprecating. The people who
cover this for a living day in and day out
can tell you which county voted what way in twenty
twenty four, in twenty twenty and how that'll change based
on the shifting demographics and the key issues affecting the
local races. That stuff really really matters. But what I
(09:00):
talked to you about is large messaging campaigns, is the
prevailing sentiments that shape a particular election. The Democrats have
chosen to make zoron Mom Donnie's closing argument about Islamophobia
a new form of racism to accuse the entire country
of why are they doing that, Jimbo, It's because saying
(09:21):
where the clan isn't working anymore. Okay, that's why this
is the new frontier of civil rights. They tried the
everybody hates black people thing, only to watch Black Americans
vote for Trump in record numbers. They tried to do
the well trans people are under attack, only to hear
(09:42):
people laugh at them and go, no, they're not. Nobody
cares if your trends. We're not trying to erase you.
You want to play sports, We just want you to
play in your own division. Okay, you want to go
to the bathroom, use the one assigned to your bio,
loot to you at birth. We don't want sex offenders
in women's rooms like they're running on in New Hampshire.
So what they've realized is that one is moving the needle.
The trans issue is an eighty twenty issue for Republicans.
(10:03):
Eighty percent of Americans believe that biological men should not
be competing in women's sports. Eighty percent of Republicans excuse me,
of the country of the electorate. Eighty percent of the
electorate believes biological men shouldn't be in the women's room. Okay,
so the Democrats can't run on. We'll protect the trans
agenda because everybody's like, why just let the trans people
(10:23):
be trans? Okay, if you're eighteen, do anything you want
to your body. It's a free country, Okay, and go
enjoy your life. You plur a bassoon amount of many one.
No one bought the idea that this was a civil
rights frontier. No one bought the idea that Black America's
freedom is on the ballot. Okay, because a lot of
prominent Black Americans mock the Democrat Party for failing to
(10:45):
meet the moment when it comes to looking out for
Black Americans. How many times have you heard this Charles
Barkley clip on my show?
Speaker 3 (10:51):
The reason I think the Democratic Party missed a Biden
President Biden is losing black bosas they only care about
black people every four years.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Wow, that's Charles Barkley saying Democrats only care about black
people every four years. I agree with that. So the
problem is black people know that. You know, the schools
in this country are failing. Seventy percent of our high
school kids that go to inner city schools cannot read
at the level of their grade. Okay, so they've failed
black kids and minority kids, Latino kids, all kinds of
(11:23):
minorities that go to inner city schools. And yeah, a
lot of white kids just the same. But the point
is those schools are failing, and the common denominator amongst
a lot of minorities is they don't have the money
to go to private school. So when the Democrats get
in the way of something like school choice. They're ostensibly
trapping minority families and failing schools. They don't care. Okay,
just vote for us because the other guys are racist
(11:44):
against minorities. That worked for a really long time. But
in this last election, when people looked at what we
were told was a battle for the soul of our nation,
you gotta vote Democrat. Do you have a problem figuring
out whether you're Premi or Trump? And you ain't black?
But when Black America saw Biden get elected, only to
watch their unemployment rate go up, their inflation rate go up,
(12:06):
their murder rate go up, their screw proficiency rate go down,
they said, Wow, what do we have to vote? What
do we have to show for voting Democrats? And it
started a conversation that made it possible for Trump to
run on his record. Trump did not get a record
level of Black voters by going, hey, black people, that's
what the Democrats do. Trump just catered to humanity instead
of identity. Okay it no one's identity is immune from humanity, okay,
(12:30):
And no one's identity has a monopoly on humanity. What
I mean by humanity is economy. The economy, Hey, we're
going to make more money. We're going to cut your taxes.
We're going to shrink the size of the government. We're
not going to subsidize all these dopey things on the
other side of the world that cost you more money
and drive up inflation, because government spending is the root
cause of inflation. We're not going to do that. It's
just a rising tide that lifts all votes. If you're
(12:52):
a human being, hey, no more criminals on our streets.
We're going to deport the murderers and rapists. Okay. There
is not a single solitary race that holds the monopoly
on benefiting from that issue. We're all safer as a
result of it. Okay, So when Trump goes out there
and caters to humanity and a rising tide that lifts
all boats, it becomes appealing to people because what democrats
(13:13):
in the era of identity politics, for god is, we're
all the same. Like we might look different, but we're
all the same. You want to make money, you want
to eat food, you want to have a place to live,
you want to get a little something something in the
sack at the end of the night. Oh yes, I've
read about that in the Bible, but none of that
is exclusive to any individual race. That's the point. And
(13:34):
once the conversation began about substantive issues like delivering for
these minority communities, it made it really easy for Trump
to start to win record levels of votes. Okay, so,
knowing that they've lost their grip on the minority vote
and the whole America is really systemically racist and we're
just a giant klu Klux clan rally, the Democrats embracing
(13:54):
Mom Donnie are pivoting to the new form of racism. Well,
it's actually just Aslamophobia. He didn't realize about America. Don't
forget that ant that he imagined and made up after
September eleventh. Wasn't comfortable on the subway because she was Muslim. Well,
everybody else wasn't comfortable on the subway because a bunch
of Muslims killed three thousand New Yorkers. And again, we're
not making it about the religion, it's about the terrorist acts.
(14:17):
But Mom Donnie's the kind of guy who's trying to
use pretend institutionalized racism as a justification for putting a
Jew hating racist in charge of New York City. Okay,
And is it gonna work. Yeah, I actually think it's
gonna which isn't good. There are checks on his power. Okay,
and that's the good news. Okay. The bad news is
(14:39):
if it works, other people are going to try to
mimic it going forward. But the hard lesson they're going
to learn in the long run is the same lesson
America learned in the twenty twenty four election. You can
only call us racist so long before we kind of
tune you out and focus on the real issues. Race
is not where the line is drawn. Is God's side
(14:59):
and the on the side. He's the host. You shouldn't
get too close to a lot of things about me.
You don't know anything about that. Things you wouldn't understand,
things he couldn't understand. There it is Fox Across America
with Jimmy Thaler. Were gonna be talking to Caroline Sunshine
in the next segment. Right now, we were having some
you and me talk about Mom Donnie. The one report
(15:20):
is that the polymarket gambling site odds are plunging, with
the hot rumor being that outside interests might have driven
them up by placing a lot of wagers on Mom
Donnie and creating a sentiment that it was inevitable that
he would win the next election. Now I don't know
what to believe. Traditionally the betting markets have been very accurate,
(15:41):
but it would make sense to me that you could
use them to manipulate sentiment, because that's what they do
with the polls a lot of times when a poll
comes out, like say last week, we had this poll
that was like, well, Curtis Slee when he needs to
drop out of the race because if he does, Andrew
Como has a shot at winning. And you go, oh,
everybody gets sleeve out of here. But then you come
to find out out what that the poll was paid
(16:02):
for by the people supporting hansy Andy Cuomo Andy Andy,
and it turns out that poll might not be reliable.
Then there's a poll that comes out over the weekend.
I think Rudy Giuliani posted it. He was like, you know,
if Como gets out of the race, Slava could win
this thing. But then you find out that Mayor Giuliani
might have an interest in sli Wa winning this thing.
(16:23):
So it's hard to take it at face value. But
if there's a third effort at manipulation, yes, then that
might be Mom Donnie and people betting the gambling markets.
That being said, a lot of the polling and a
broad swath of the polling shows Mom Donnie winning this
thing pretty easily. So my guess is I believe he's
going to win. I think most people I know do
at this point. What the resolute hope is between now
(16:43):
an election day, the surgeon early voting of senior citizens,
specifically senior citizens, the most relying voting, reliable voting block
we have in this country. They are apparently turning out
in big numbers in New York City's early voting. Now,
the problem remains, and Bill Hemmer talked about this earlier
on the show. If you missed it, can get the
podcast at Fox Across America dot com. We don't know
(17:05):
who these seniors are. We know there's an early voting
turnout for seniors. But are they these seniors that you know,
moved here from other countries and don't like the idea
that New York might closely resemble the type of thing
it fled, or are they the self hating white seniors
who showed up to the No King's protest and wasted
a Saturday pretending we had a king in Washington, DC,
(17:25):
when we don't have anything of the sort. And the
truth is we're not going to know that until we
start to get some exit polling on election night. So
it's really fascinating stuff. But this whole idea that Mom
Donnie's closing message is about racism and it's lamophobia and
how he's gonna make New York a place where listen,
(17:48):
New York has every race known to ma'am, it's the
most diverse place in the world. So this seems like
a bit of a reach by a guy like Zora
mom Donald last night. Well, you're in luck. Mikey has booked.
He'm a major California baseball fan. Unfortunately she roots for
the Angels always. This is like the movie twenty seven.
Dresses kind of a bridesmaid in this world series, but
(18:10):
you're America's bride. When it comes to the media, they
all love you. Caroline Sunshine in the house and the
crowd goes wild. Hey girl, how you doing. You want
to have a funny laugh about Larry Cudlow, our buddy.
This is the last time I saw you. We have
big NBA scandal breaks last Thursday. Caroline and I go
on Cuddlow to talk about it. Friday, he pulls me
into his office and he goes, hey, I want to
(18:31):
thank you guys for coming by talking about that yesterday.
He's like, you know, I've dealt with a lot of
addiction in my life, drugs, everything like that, because I've
never heard an addict talk about their vice the way
you did. And I go, well, I don't go to
Gamba's anonymous, and he goes, well, maybe you should. It's like, okay, Larry,
let me get out of here. I'm gonna go to
a meeting. But I feel like we gambled in one.
We did good TV together. Give us credit for that.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Amen, thank you.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
All right, thank you? Because I know the hater I'm kidding.
There's no haters. They're very supportive on The Cudlow Show.
They are the best. But it's great to see you.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Gambling is the only addiction I've never.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Had, I said. He said. He said that on the
Area because gambling's the only addiction I've never had. I
love that about Cudlow. He's the best. He does real
TV because he just asked you a question gets out
of the way and you can actually just talk. You know, well,
That's my favorite thing about radio too, is we have
room right now. Most TV hits are like, what do
you have? Why do you have it? Here's a picture
of the guy coming up next, here's a story underneath,
get out of here. Yes, that's what I was saying.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
I feel like so many viewers don't see the backside
of like in your set, it's cool, it's more of
the hang like you're saying, it's more, it's more real.
People don't see the backside of TV, and like it
sometimes feels very yes to your point on a.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yes, robbing an olda cosmetics, get in there with the
garbage bag, fill it up with some lipstick, and get
out of.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
There, which, by the way, is crazy. Like I mean
I was telling you, I'm you know, in LA, and
it came out to New York and like just going
into a CVS here, Like I thought LA was bad,
but you go into a CVS. You cannot buy toothpaste
in this city without having to have some. You feel
like a kindergartener. Right, you have to have somebody come
unlock the gate and say there's your toothpaste, Like it's
that is not normal.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yeah, And so the guy you have to flag down
a guy you're like, I want to buy toothpaste, and
he's miserable and he's got to grab a key and
unlock the toothpaste, and then he's got to unlock toothpaste.
He's gonna hand you the toothpaste and then you steal it.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
But it's like the time you're just made to feel
awful for being there wanting to purchase anything. He's upset,
like you have to hit the little button first to
pay button us aisle seventeen assistants need it. You know.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
My favorite part about that is then some local politician
gets on TV and goes, you know, crime is down. Yeah, yeah, no, yeah,
you can tell by the way we're barricading the cosmetics.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Or it's the opposite where it's a guy like mom
Donnie where he's like, yeah, like what's what's wrong with it?
Like he's not gonna do that's the thing, right It
is like on his crime policies, I'm thinking, like, does
everybody just want to live in a new normal where
we're not being able to buy a razor without having
somebody unlock a glass case?
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Is like we just accept that.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
It's like, oh yeah, this is civilist.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
You never shop. There was no impulse buying, right, you know,
just like see something on a shelf and get it.
You go there with a plan, you find the key operator.
It's so bananas, it's crazy. We're talking to Caroline Sunshine.
Here's mom Donnie on the Daily Show. I wanted to
play this. This is him kind of trying to make
sense of what he will and won't do. And he's saying,
you know, I've been accused of wanting to do like
(21:22):
things like defund the police. I mean, they didn't like
make that up, you know, like he's trying to claim
that all of the attacks against him are rooted in
some form of Islamophobia. I mean, no, it's not so
much your religion so much as you've taken the side
of Islamic terrorists. That's a problem, you know what I mean.
Or you know, the defund the police thing is his tweet.
It's not our idea. But I just want you to
hear this. It's clip one.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
You know, I don't begrudge New Yorkers who are skeptical
because they've also lived through tens of millions of dollars
of commercials telling them to fear me, right, you know,
they have lived through waking up every morning and seeing
a photo of me and just feeling like, oh my god,
because the language that's written around me as if I'm
a threat to the city that they love. And so
when I meet with them, just the mere fact that
(22:04):
I don't strangle them within thirty seconds, and then I
think it's it's an opportunity where, you know, I both
can tell them the things that I will do and
the things that I won't do.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Right.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I will freeze the rent, I won't defund the police.
I will make buses fast free, I won't decriminalize misdemeanors.
I will deliver universal childcare. I won't require everyone to
eat halal food.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
And I think he might've going to laugh at the
end of that. But the point is all of these things,
he's defending himself against our own positions, you know what
I mean, Like, I'm not going to defund the police,
all right, Well you tweeted that we should. So the
fact that we're like, hey, don't defund the police, is
not us being Islamophobic or anything. You know, it's just
anti the policy.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Wouldn't you say, oh yeah, same thing where he had
he apologized to the NYPD. I do get one of
these because while I'm here in New York, because if
mom Donnie wins, like, you're not gonna be able to
get these anymore. It's just gonna be f the police
hoodies and white Peter tank.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
That's just.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
You're going to sell that on the market. That's a relic.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Absolutely. But he like he looks into the camera and
he apologizes to the NYPD. But it's like, you literally
said that the NYPD.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Is racist, anti queer. It would be.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Queer liberation to defund, to defund them, and they're racist,
and it's like that's not really something that you can
kind of like easily apologize your your way out of.
But you know, he's he's an actor. I keep telling
everybody and maybe finally Jimmy, you listen, being a comedian, like,
the guy is an actor. He's a really good shtick.
(23:42):
You can tell he practices it very well in the mirror.
He's been super well prepared by whoever it is on
his team, and he just knows how to you know,
I don't say this as somebody who's like, oh, I'm
Dommy's great. I'm just telling you from a technical aspect,
how the guy is playing.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Baseball and winning.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Why he's going up to bat and like not striking out.
No matter what everybody's saying about him, He's just he's
an actor. He's got a really good shtick.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Caroline Sunshine is here. She says, if politics were America's
got talent, Mom Donnie can get to the next round.
Freezing the rent, though might not get our talent in
the next round. Price controls on grocery stores maybe not
the ideal, you know what.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
It's crazy though, So I was out. I went to
Queen's yesterday because there's there's this voter group that I'm
interested in. It's people that voted for Trump in the
presidential but then they voted for Mom Donnie in the primary,
and yeah, really interesting.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
And I was asking them about this.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
I was like, you know, hey, like what about his
policies on freezing the rent or like his policies on crimeer,
like you really want to you know, like decriminalized prostitution,
Like are you good with all these things? And everyone's attitude,
their their vibes were very much. I mean, yeah, I'm
kind of willing to risk it. It was I'm just
so fed up with the state of things in New
York City. This guy's kind of talking about affordability. That's
(25:06):
my main thing. I'll risk it on everything else. And
I just thought that was interesting because that's not what
you're hearing on television or not. But when you go
talk to people, people are like, I'm just so done
with nobody caring about me.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Y'all risk it, I'll try it.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Which is so sad that we put voters in the state.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
The political equivalent of the pregnant women taking Thailand all.
Like Trump said, don't do it all. You know, what
did you see?
Speaker 3 (25:29):
He made time to tweet that again. Yeah, that's the
best thing about Trump. He's on this like foreign visit,
he's meeting with world leaders, he's doing deals, and then
you go check truth Social and he's like Thailand all
pregnant women.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
No, he was literally on the plane lift of an
aircraft carrier dropping truth social tweets as he parachuted into
a meeting with the troops at three am this morning.
He's live tweeting, you know, so it's real. We're talking
to Caroline Sunshine. I mean, you worked on this campaign,
You've been around this sort of thing. I think that
(26:01):
what Trump is doing on the other side of the
world right now is obviously historic. I think back here
at home, we're just watching the new form of grievance
take shape. You know how we went into like no Kings,
and obviously that didn't really stick. Mom. Donnie's closing message
really is Islamophobia, and that's what he's talking about. Did
you hear that made up story about the ant that
now turns out? I want to play this for the listeners.
(26:21):
He now clarifies it was his dad's cousin, not his
aunt he was speaking about. But the reason it's so
laughable is regardless of who it is. Okay, I'm sorry
you're uncomfortable on the subway. The rest of us were
really uncomfortable because they blew up three thousand people, you know.
But here he is clarifying. And again, if the closing
messages is lamophobia, and that's a real message. You don't
(26:43):
have to make up stories. But he's making them up.
And this speaks to your analysis of him being an actor.
So listen to this act. Listen to the rewrite here
it is clip too.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yes, that's I was speaking about my aunt. I was
speaking about Zanta Fui, my father's cousin.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Passed away a few years ago, and.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
For the takeaway for my more than ten minute address
about Islamophobia in this race and in the city to be,
the question of my aunt tells you everything about Andrew
Cuomo and his inability to reckon with a crisis of
his own making.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
But it's I get the Cuomo shot just the same,
but it's a made up story.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
The best part is he's clearly caught in a lie. Yeah,
and he doubles down because it's I mean again, I'm
just I'm laughing at this because it's funny, like he
doubles down, he doesn't apologize, he's clearly caught in a lie,
and instead he just pivots to and you know what
it was actually not in It was a cousin and
she's dead now, so we can't even.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Go ask You can't even get him there.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
You can't even go ask her because she's dead. And
it's offensive, frankly that you're now talking about my dad, like,
shame on you for catching me in a lie about
my aunt.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
It was actually then, dude, if I come if I guys,
if I come home tonight covered in glitter, smelling like
a pirate, hooker and Jenny goes, where the hell are you?
And I go, why because I'm white? That's what he's doing.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
It's such as there's a stick, like everyone kinda is
trying to mom. Donnie's such a phenomenon in a way
that everyone's trying to analyze him and you know, label him.
We're always as socialized and blah blah. Obviously it's like
and nothing's really sticky. But it's like, guys, it's because
he's a theater kid. He's a theater kid who figured
out how to take his act on the road to
get political power. Like he reminds me of like kids
(28:38):
that I did model you n with in college, where
like they really think they're smarter than everybody else in
the room.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
They've they've rehearshed the stick.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
They think they're smarter than you, and they're just gonna
like keep writing it until.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
You catch on.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Was like, he's he's a fraud, really, I mean he's
a what His parents are both like they have money,
fine money, you know, and his dad's like a who.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Says Abraham Lincoln inspired Hitler right like his death it's extreme,
that's extreme. Parents really do shape your worldview if you
grow up the house where the guy at the head
of the dinner table said Hitler was inspired by Abe Lincoln.
You probably developed some anti American sentiments.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Maybe you think you think and same thing with the
whole like what is he eats his food with his hands, right,
But it's like that's an act too, Like that's not.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Real, but the whole thing's fake.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Yeah, that's what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
He is like this decade's Obama and that he's a
hot topic candidate. It's cool to say you're voting for him.
It's like a it's like flair you put on a jacket.
It's like a button you put on that you bought
it hot topic or Spencer gifts and you're like, I'm
one of these.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
It's I'm glad that you brought that up because that also,
to me, is accurate.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Like him and.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Obama have a very similar shtick. They grew up very similar.
They're the child of like very progressive academics, and then
they figured out how to have a good act. Yeah,
and it's an act that is like likable, it's personable,
it's kind of fun, it's smart, it's quick. Like that's
exactly what Obama's act was yes.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
And you could emotionally blackmail a lot of guilty white people.
They're like, yeah, we've got to save that. It's so crazy,
don't coney where Caroline Sunshine is ticking around, the host
who always has gifts for his listeners, get some.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Grass, a few efferts say a little nosey and black
of the.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Knight got box across America. Caroline Sunshine riding shotgun. Hey girl,
she is from California, where Gavin Newsom grew up a
poor black child. If you've been watching the podcast this week,
it's so funny. Well you talk about acting like nope,
we're living in the death of shame. There are people
among us who actually don't feel shame, like they don't
(30:47):
go that's bad.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Yeah, And then by the way, they're like chronic cases,
like there's no the hopeless you know.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Yeah, no, it's just the thing. They've made peace with
that because it's the factory setting in the machine.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
You have to be a certain level of shameless to
do what they do, like to get up and be
Gavin Newsome every day. There's a certain level of shamelessness.
It is required.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
I love it so much though, because he's on this
NBA podcast. He's like, yeah, man, Mac and Cheese. Wonder
Brett Yo, it was a struggle man. Dad's hanging out
with the Getties. He's actually in like his childhood Christmas photo.
He's sitting on a person. They use this furniture. It's
like they felt kidding. She goes, I haven't seen that. Reason. Well,
(31:28):
there's a reason, Caroline. Here is Kamala Harris. Though we're
talking about California politicians. I wanted to get into this too.
It's cliped thirty seven.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
When are they going to see a woman in charge
in the White House in their lifetime?
Speaker 2 (31:39):
For sure? Boy? Could it be you? Possibly? Have you
made a decision yet?
Speaker 1 (31:45):
No, I have not.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
But you say in your book, I'm not done. That
is correct. I am not done.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
I have lived my entire career a life of service,
and it's.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
In my bones and there are many ways to serve.
I've not decided yet what I will do in the
future beyond what I am doing right now, which is
also still a little meandery. She's not done, Jimmy. What
you don't realize is if you saw that on camera,
she was talking to the woman coming to take her
wine glass.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
I'm not finished. I'm not finished.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
It's in my bones. There are many ways to serve.
She's actually lecturing her about how she presented the glass.
You can come in on a flat tray, you can
hand it to me.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Ironically, I actually think if she leaned into her just
like Wino persona, she'd probably get more votes.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
That's what a lot of people wrong, Carolyn Sunshine and Studio,
even the news. Something he grew up rich. That's actually
not a bad thing if you lean into it. Yeah,
Trumps pretending, yeah, pretending you didn't. I think Mitt Romney
gave Trump the blueprint because when Mitt Romney ran, he
tried to pretend he was poor.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Yeah, and then had a personality.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
There was that and he wore the mom jeans. Do
you remember that? And what's funny is you know he
ran away from his success. Trump, as you know, runs
like a rapper. He parks a private jet in front
of the podium and as a supermodel bring him on stage.
I mean Trump is.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Like, yeah, I'm a little bit richer than what they
say it is.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
But he does like he's a showman.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Like people love it, they love it.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yeah, But that's what Kama is getting wrong. If she
said I'm a day drunk mess, but I love this country.
I vote for that.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
I think a lot of people would be like I
feel seen heard and like me too.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
I am seriously like, think about this. If Prince Harry
and Megan Markle showed up and instead of being like, wa,
we're victims, will never get the crown and they were
and they were like, actually we inherit like half a
billion dollars and we don't do I'd be like, I
want to follow them on Instagram. This is amazing, you
guys just hang out my favorite. Yeah, it would be amazing.
But what happened is in that era where they tried
(33:52):
to fancy victimhood is currency, it duped a lot of
successful people into running away from the things that were
going right in their lives.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Yeah, and I don't even know. It gets to a
point too where like you just don't know who you
are anymore. But I see that in so many people
that run for office. They just they've been told that
they need to be. If they're to this, then they're
this voting group isn't gonna like them. If they're to that,
these people aren't gonna like them like you just see
people become they lose who they actually.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Are, and if you lean into the thing, it's funny.
I'll give Dave Chapelle credit for this. Dave Chappelle talked
about if Trump one in twenty sixteen. He did a
great bit where he goes, you know, they said to Trump,
you didn't pay taxes, and he goes, well, I have
good accountants. There were loopholes. They saved me money. He goes,
this man came out of that big house all the
powerful people are in and told us exactly what's going
(34:37):
on in there. Totally, but you respect him, like if
Newsom said, Hey, I grew up really rich and I'm
friends with the Getty's and I've just done well for myself,
and let me tell you how the rich people really
look at society and how we manipulate you and do
things and benefit ourselves. And you'd go, wow, that's like
so authentic. But because they were duped into thinking victim
hunt his currency, he wants you to believe he was
(34:58):
eating wonderbread.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Yeah, And it's like the do anything to be liked.
It's like you see that in actors sometimes, you know,
like I grew up in Disney Channel and LA and
all that. Like you see there's like a complex and
actor sometimes like they just want to be liked. Yeah,
and you see that in like the politics that plays
out in Hollywood. Like I don't really think half the
people in Hollywood have the actual politics they claim to,
but they want to be liked and they feel like
if they say, I just hate Donald Trump more than you,
(35:21):
maybe you'll like your part. That's also in the people
that run this country. It's fine for actors to have
that complex, not great for people who want to run
your country.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Amen, folks, we're talking to the great Caroline Sunshine. Get heute.
You don't want to, but the show's over. That was
not a personal data. That was the radio clock speaking.
We're back here to do it again. Tomorrow, Caroline Sunshine,
do it again as well. We'll always have this see tomorrow.
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