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Speaker 1 (00:02):
You're checking out the breakfast club.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Holding everybody is dj n V just hilarious. Charlamaane the guy.
We are the breakfast Club. Layla Roses here as well.
We got some special guests.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
In the Belding.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yes, indeed, you got Chris Lofton, we got Isaac Keys,
and we got Joseph Sicar.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Welcome, gentlemen, fantastic.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
You saw that the first episode that dropped us heavy
last week. Guess right, set it up for the rest
of the season. It's gonna be fire season.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
How do y'all approach doing a final season?
Speaker 5 (00:32):
Like?
Speaker 6 (00:32):
How does that even make y'all feel? Is it bittersweet?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Like? Is how do you approach?
Speaker 5 (00:36):
I think you like you just said a bittersweet, But
you know, I think once we know it's the final season,
I think it makes us it goes look harder, you
know what I mean, like make sure we make the
scenes a little bit more intense. I think the writing
room did the same thing, and just making sure that
every episode had a bang factor to it. You know,
it's actives, you know, like we're gonna put our best
foot forward, and I think we did a great job
doing that.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Is it always that feeling?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Like the last show will be so amazing, but like, yeah,
we just can't like that we got to do another
one or another one?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Is that is that ever feeling all? You're like, now,
what is it? Right? Well?
Speaker 4 (01:00):
I think that Gary and I just wanted to make
sure that we gave Chicago Chicago's do. A big thing
was is that I didn't produce the first season, just
the second and the third season. And a big thing
for me was getting Chicago better, you know, a little
bit more realistic. Like even the Power Show is kind
of like New York adjacent, but we wanted to be
Chicago adjacent, but it's like it's a real place. We
(01:21):
wanted to show the diversity within the diversity.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Like I think it was kind.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Of like like a globular South side of Chicago, a
globular West side, And I just mean that there was
no specificity or details, and we do a lot more
detail oriented stuff in the third season, and I think
that the city.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Is really going to bless this show for this final season.
Speaker 7 (01:39):
What did you do to do that? What was your
research like leaving this well.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Yeah, you know, I mean I moved. I moved to
New York twenty six years ago. So it's like, you know,
I went back early and I met with cops and
robbers and asked and learned more about the city, because
when I was there, there was really it was really
a city of gang nations.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
You know, there was folks and people and a lot.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Of things that were the rules that were street rules
that were uh followed. And now with the emergence of
kind of like all these renegade gangs and gangs within
that used to be nations that kind of went against
each other, where would the pipeline be coming from?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
How would Tommy Egan survive in this?
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Who would want to just make the money and who
would just want to see him dead? And I think
that we do a lot of responsible storytelling, and like
there's a million people going at each other in on
the south side and on the west side, and where
the distribution comes from, and some of the cartels that
would really truly exist that mimic the cartels in real life.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
That's what we did.
Speaker 7 (02:31):
Were there any things in your research trying to get
it so real where you were like, nah, we don't
want to touch this just because of what may actively
be happening, or just because his history wise, you just
don't want to.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
You don't want to Yeah, well you know, yeah, I
mean Chris and Ira bo from Chicago, and there's definitely
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
It's not that I'm this age this old.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
It's like in my thirties and forties, even going back,
I mean I remember it'd be like, you know, you
don't want people from the past popping up and being like, yo, man,
how why'd you put it like that?
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Or what'd you do this like this? And so you do.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
There is kind of you know, it's it's adjacent, but
it but it mimics the real life. It's like people
if you know, you know style, and I think there's
a lot of wink wik non nods to to real
life stuff going in there.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
But yeah, I mean you want to be careful, you know.
Speaker 6 (03:14):
Tommy says an interesting tags and Joseph like, you know,
he's always needs a chase and control, a.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Power, our loyalty or revenge, Like what what's driving him
this season? Man, that's a great question.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
A lot I think a lot of it is revenge
and kind of this this uh this hunger for power
and how that that the power? You know they say
power corrupts uh complete power corrupts completely. Yeah, absolutely, absolute,
power collapse. Absolutely. I know Trump is always just a
little smarter than me, but that's that's what it is.
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And I think that again, it's it's like can you
have it all? And that's that's the question, because Tommy's
going for it all this time and is he going
to sacrifice loyalty with Diamond?
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Is he gonna say?
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Is he gonna h do backhanded deals with Jennard who's
a backhanded deal master?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
But yeah, so it's a really exciting season.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Gary Lennon again, our show runner in the WHO writing room,
did a fantastic job.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I'm so proud of them, and I think the fans
are gonna be really happy. And for sure, I always
feel like Diamond's trying to move righteous in a dirty world.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
I agree, I'm doing a great job then trying to
portray I think you know it is like you just said,
like you can't it's not moral values.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
It's too much in the street. Now, that's the street codes.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
You try to go buy those things, but those more
than valid get you killed. And he was trying to
play both sides for so long. And the thing now
is you start to see he's starting to like he's
choosing side. He's both feed in you know. Now he's
actually kind of looking at at Tommy like while you
while you're in love, you know, looking at his brother
Jannar because he wants that brother relationship, I believe, But
at the same time that's gonna it could be his downfall.
I mean, it's all about relationships and alliances right now,
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and how you choose and what side you're gonna choose
to go on. And I think Domon's in the calling
that little Quandra right.
Speaker 7 (04:53):
Now, you guys relationship, I'm gonna say, Diamond and Tommy,
Joseph and Isaac. You you guys relationship in the new
season kind of mimics what the relationship was with Ghosts
and Tommy a bit in the reverse.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (05:07):
Yeah, And it's weird because it's like, now you're in
that power seat, no pun intendent, but now you're in
a driver's seat, right and you're able to like choose
what you say what you don't say, and you're kind
of like controlling him. Was that purposely done for the
fans who've been following all the shows to kind of
put that together?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yes, yeah, I think so.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
But I also love how it mimics just like that
hurt people, hurt people and if you know, you kind
of follow the faults of your father or.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Whatever that expression.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Charlie Mane will correct me, but there, you know, the
sins of the father. It's like there's there is there
is this kind of reverseness that's happening too, And we'll
see what happens to Tommy, because ultimately what happened to
ghosts so you know, you gotta see what happened.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Definitely, there was a moment in the first episode where
there was that when you came to talk to him
in the warehouse. I felt like you turned into ghost
in that moment, and but Tommy checked himself too. Yeah,
but I felt like ghost would have did that to you.
It was almost like reverse oycology, like were just telling
them what you know, he needed hard.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Time saying yeah.
Speaker 7 (06:03):
I felt like I didn't even know you thought that
you were checking yourself in that moment.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
And it's hard to talk about, but it was real.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
I mean, I think Tommy is an honest character in
the way when he's like, yo, man, I should have
told you everything. I should have done that, but it's
timing gonna do it again. That's the that's the thing. Yes,
it's like it was smart. It's like knips.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
He knew how to he needed, knew how to do
like minimize the situation at the time because that felt
diamonds coming high. And I think that was a different
level of seeing Tommy, you know, and Joseph play that.
So you know, yeah, I thought it was. It's a
great thing because it was even hard for me as
a character, like they like, no bring it. I'm like,
y'all want me to bring it, you know, like that
no bringing it, And it's starting to it starts to
build with the character.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
Chris, how do you see Janaud And I see people
call him the smart villains and people call him a monsters.
He just a man trying to out hustle a system
that's against stacked against him.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Man.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
I think Gerard is misunderstood because honestly, Isaac hate when
I go off into this tangent, but I honestly feel
like nobody's looking at it the right way. I feel like,
because I'm actually from Chicago, I try to implement a
lot of what I know the people are gonna be
watching this saying like, nah, that ain't that ain't how
we were doing in Chicago. Y'all really gonna let this
white boy come up in here and do that? To me,
(07:08):
I feel like I'm the voice of the fans. So
to me, I look at Gernard as to me, the
only one that got some sense for real, because why
I'm supposed to not know anything about what Tommy was
doing those six years on power, I'm supposed to not
know that. To me, this is just a white man
in Chicago who may or may not be the police.
Nobody knows, Like, why are we all so trusting in him?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Like nobody?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
And then with my brother, I'm like, Okay, you were
in prison. I heard you like to cut hair in jail.
That's what you was in there doing, right, Bought you
a barbershop, Put you up, You're comfortable, you got something
to do. Stay out the way. You're on parole.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
You hot.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
You're not supposed to be touching the streets. You're gonna
mess up the whole organization. If you get caught, you're
gonna blow.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
It all up.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
So I'll handle it. Talk to you, we'll deliberate, we'll
be partners, brothers. You know that was my goal. My dream,
didn't work out like that.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Is that difficult to make it make sense because what
you just said is I have to make it mean.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I had to make it make sense because you know,
look at.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Him from we understand it. But this is a new series. Yes, yeah,
to me trying to make it make sense. I did
create that backstory, I said with I remember I told
Joseph Isaac and with Gary Lennon, our showrunner. I created
a whole backstory in my head to make some of
this makes sense. Because obviously I will never go against
my brother trying to kill my brother.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
That's crazy. But I tried to make it make sense.
To Gannar, It's like, Okay, we talking about millions of dollars.
This organization CBR is supposed to be worth millions of dollars,
And if he's been in prison for fifteen years, that
means I kind of know more life without.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Him than with him.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
And now if we add millions of dollars into the
mix and some new person that nobody knows who's white,
how about I kill both of you? How about I
just killed both of you. You ain't even been here
for fifteen years. Anyway, I could do without you, you know.
So it's like I don't understand. Like, so that's how
I had to convince myself. And sometimes I get too
invested in it and I'm like, yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Know what, get too invested.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I get to invest in sometimes and I'll be like, no,
this is wrong.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Nobody gets gannar.
Speaker 7 (08:58):
But that across on screen, though, I feel like on screen,
you're like the little brother that's like, no, I can
do this, listen to me, Listen to me, but then
you be messing up and then you gotta call it done.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Thank you. That's the little brother thing though, what people
New York. I'm told him that we have.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
More with Joseph Sicora, Isaac Keys, and Christie lofton when
we come back.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
The cast of PowerBook for Force, So don't move. It's
to Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Good morning, everybody is j n V Jess hilarious, Charlamagne
the guy. We are the Breakfast Club law la roses
here as well. We're still kicking it with Joseph Socora,
Isaac Keys, and Christie Loft in the cast of PowerBook
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Speaker 7 (09:40):
Lauren speaking of the brother dynamic, you guys, dynamic is
kind of like the same but a bit different in
this new season because you're kind of making your own moves,
and you got your girl and.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
She's you know, helping you a bit more.
Speaker 7 (09:52):
You trust them a little bit more, but you're not
at the same time, What do you guys want your
relationship to say to people in a regular world about
brotherlationships big brother little brother relationships.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
People that don't sell.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Drugs they do right, I would personally, I would probably say, like,
forgiveness could probably be a thing, and love Trump's all
and blood is definitely thinking the water. I think I
would want people to like take that from it, like
blood is truly thick in the water, and your family
I feel like the only people closer till you can
hurt you because if you don't care about somebody, they
can't hurt your feelings. They can't, they can't betray you.
(10:24):
You know, it has to come from somebody you love.
So I feel like learning to forgive and learning that
family Trump's all is something that I would want people
to know.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
But blood is finite. Water is infinite, you know there's.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Yeah, I think water is going to make you survive
longer than blood.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
You drink that a little bit, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
The French soldiers with the Russian horses, but the water
that's life giving the war.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
You take it to war.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
I think, you know, it's real life, Like you know,
we all have family members that we necessarily don't get along,
but we still kind of love them, but we may
have to keep from a farmer trying to figure him out.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I think it's really deep about the relationships.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
I think the whole show really dies into how the
relationship and the toxicity of it, you know, like you know,
like you know, really all just communicate, if you just
communicate for the person, if his brother, if Diamond would
have gave Yournard a hug, you know, another hug, and
sometimes he might've made him feel a little better or
just talked about it, like how you gonna kill your brother?
Like it's the deepness and the deaftness of what you're
willing to lose and sacrifice for what you want to
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kind of molds you want and then how does that
align in your life? Like to him killing his brother,
that wasn't enoughing for him some people that's something hard
to do. We still get on the streets all the time.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Like why why you don't kill you, Why you don't
kill your brother? Why do you know, unlive your brother.
It's like, can you do that? Would you be able
to do in the world. So that tussle, I think
is just amazing to show the relationship to it. But
you sound like them.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
I'm saying, this man just feel motivational for some reason.
Sometimes what does redemption look like for Like now that
the creature, you know, keep pulling him back.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
I think ultimately what Diamond wants he wants that to
be able to make make this money, have power, but
he doesn't want all the violence and stuff to go
along with it.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
At some point, like.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
If it was the best world, the coalition, everybody working together,
you know, everybody's making money.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Let's just do that and be cool, you know.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
And I think that, yeah, and I think but it's like,
you know, when you see the character of Detiment character
coming with Joseph play so well, it's like, now we
want more than that, we want more of that. So
he's still got to make his moves and make his moves,
you know, in align with how he wants to move,
so that somehow kind of creates that friction between everyone
in a sense, because there's so many players in this,
you know, we still have the little Laddin to the
cartel side and how the control that they have. So
(12:39):
now we're trying to you know, I think Diamonds redemptious.
He really just wanted to he wants.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
To be there.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
But but but you know, it ain't gonna work the
way he wants it to work, and that's how it works.
Speaker 7 (12:48):
You do you think the world will ever look at
the game organization as like anything for anything righteous they've
ever done? I know with BMN fifty also trying to
talk about the family unit and stuff like that, and
it's very presser that you're that character in this show.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
But people don't see that.
Speaker 7 (13:03):
They only say why would you guys be in a
show that showcases all these things.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
I'm sure you get that question on the time.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
Do you think the world will ever say, but wait,
there was a righteous component to this, there was a
family aspect.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
Yes, And I think even outside the show, we make
sure we do a lot of stuff in the community.
I make sure we talk, we have speaking engagements and
talking to make sure we know this is entertainment. It's
telling the story, you know, a story of some made
up characters, of some made up characters that you know,
they how they move in the streets and how their
life and how they find the family dynamics happen. And
I think that also by showing that in Chicago, with
all the things that's going on with the city of Chicago,
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we're able to show the entertainment part of it, but
we're also able to talk touch on some of the
things of the diversity of the city and how the
city is made up in the history and the architecture,
and just kind of giving some more light on the
city in that way as well too.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
But I think it's very important for.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
People to know even as we talk, is to make
sure that we know that this is a story. It's
a TV series, plancres, it's not real life. It's the
Power Universe. We know that's not you know, in real life.
It's so many things that happened that must think pulls
up anywhere in no parking tickets, nothing.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
I won't say.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I won't say that that these stories are might not
be based on somebody's real life, but they are lives
that's happening out there. Tommy, every time, me and my brother.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
That's how it was, you mean, and that's why I.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Think these stories mean so much, you know, and a
lot of times, like she said, a lot of people
feel like, oh, well, they're idolizing or they're making it
seem like this.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
But for a lot of times, that's what we grew.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Up seeing, Right, we grew up seeing the local drug dealers,
and you always wanted to know what I always wanted
to know.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Like how did they do their business? How did it work?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
So I think this kind of gives you an inside
false or not false, but primarily true of how it
works and how it got down.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
So when you.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
Tape some things, so Tommy would have been in jail
a long time ago. Man, he drives the same getaway
car and it's a loud.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Loud, hard to drive too pretty, it'd be pretty easy
to peg Tommy.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
He's not switching up rides all that much.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Although in the original Power Show they did, you know,
some of that, some of that.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I think when you made that drive go, you switch
cars in the original.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Right, No, it's like they bucked me out of the cart.
Let's not talk about season one.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
I was gonna ask, you know, when you talk about
street credit and talking about what's real, how how important
is street code when you're doing these shows?
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Mmm?
Speaker 1 (15:17):
I honestly do think it's important. Honestly, we got to
keep it true to what it is. But also there
are some things that we don't want to touch on
because it's too real. Like that's why they don't mention
like real gangs. We make up gang names because we
don't want to seem like we're promoting actual gang violence
in the city or making other gangs. Because our dms
are crazy. I can't speak for everybody, but mine is insane.
(15:40):
Like my dms get crazy when the show on the
death threats and a lot of people, oh dog, I
get crazy DM. So it's like we try to be
careful with that.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
I think you're slipping little vernacular improves that every now
and again when I see in the cut, I'm.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Really from Chicago, so I'll try to slip in the
phone again.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I'm trying to slip it in and.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
There because I know the city is going to be
like bro, I know, I know like that the city
of Chicago is behind it. I feel like New York
and Chicago are two cities that they don't We don't
really particularly like when actors portray being from there if
they're not really from there, Like we don't want you
to come from LA and try to be on the
New York TV show saying you a hood dude from.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
New York Man London Brown crushes it as.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
The exceptional case. London Brown shout out to London. That's
my dog. But like, I don't feel like New York
and Chicago likes.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
That that l They don't like it at all. L
A is another one, Yeah, and they don't like it.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I also wanted to know, when y'all shoot so many
different films, how do y'all stay in character? TV shows,
TV shows? Yeah, how do y'all stay in character in
all the shows? Because you have different characters in different shows.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
I mean for me, it is the simple version for
me is action and cut, Like I'm not with you.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Yeah, I've never been that.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Guy for real that really like takes it home with me.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
I just neither.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yeah, I just know how to disassociate a lot.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
More from on.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
I just find that there's a lot more fun when
you get to it is. But also it's like coming
you know, coming from the theater, darling. You know, it's
like if you're not going to bring that character home,
you're playing the guy for six months, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
You just you just bring it to the theater. That's
why you warm up, that's why you get you know,
the whole thing. Do you imagine Joseph pulled up to
pick up his kid from school. He pulled up in
the car.
Speaker 7 (17:22):
See, it's so hard to not see Tommy, all of
you guys. It's hard to not envision y'all in the show.
I'm like, dang, I was just watching you last night
like me.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
I think does a fantastic job acting because you's nothing
like Tommy in.
Speaker 7 (17:32):
Real too, but the voice is there.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
He's selling copious amounts of drugs, but.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
We got more with Joseph, Isaac Keys and Christy Lofton.
When we come back, it's the breakfast Club in the morning.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Girl going back, Take three Act, No clouds in my
stul Let it rain out?
Speaker 5 (17:57):
How you playing in the fank?
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Coming down down Jones? When the class can we go?
We wrack a fella go hide and weather and she.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
Wos Beta you know me in anticipation for specification stack
chips with a rainy day.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Rain Man is back. We're a little miss. Show me
out the way you act. You hold the high and
we'll never be well. Baby.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
In Magazine, but you still being up baby because they
the you can't.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
And that's me.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
There besw Wallowasia, I'm.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Show somebody who's dj V.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Just Hilarry Charlamagne the guy. We are to Breakfast Club
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Speaker 3 (18:53):
Now this is the third and final season Charlomagne.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
Isaac and Christian regard to the dealing with fifty cents?
So what did y'all learn from Little Meeta? I never
want to be on fifties bad side, that's all.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
I just learned that.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
And I never I never want to owe fifty money
ever in life, not from Little Meets but just in general,
just from No. Number One money because I know he
wants it by Monday, and uh and I just you know,
and I just want to stay on this good side.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
I don't know, you know, with him and little whole
little meat thing, I have no clue. I'm not privy
to truly what's going on. Then, I just know my
loyalty runs deep.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
I know.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
The day I booked this role. One of the first
things I did. You would appreciate this, Charla macause you
know you you a little messy. First thing I did
was I went straight to John Rue's Instagram and pressed unfollowed,
followed back right now.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
This is fallow back because I'd already met y'all. I've
already met him, but long before I got a follow.
I met him and he followed me, his manager and everything.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
And I said, the one thing that will not happen,
Curtis Jackson will not just.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Be sitting down one day and go on John.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Rule's page and see followed by Christy Lofton.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
You will not. And I just unfollowed it.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I don't know, guy, heavens know out with.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Everybody, if you've got problem, you won't follow.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I'll follow ricks everybody.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
I don't follow any of them.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
I swear when we get off, I'm the show yourself.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Here's the viral moment I saw you.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
I answer what man, I've learned as you talked about football,
and I was walking my life, man like. I don't
get involved in the miss. I don't get involved anything,
especially I have too many other problems my own to
be worried about something else and what's going on over
there because you never know all the complete details. You
never know, so why passed judge nor they try to
you know whatever, I just mind my business.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Man, simple, Joseph. I want to say, I saw TMZ
ran it to you.
Speaker 7 (20:44):
They asked you about the me situation fifty posted and
it said you was too smart.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
You got about it very easy.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
I don't know if I got out of very easy
my words pretty carefully. But it's because I think it
means you's a nice young man. And I think that
what people forget is that fifth paid for his acting classes.
I mean, he invested into meach. So there's there's a
certain amount there that's that's you know, there there was love,
and I basically what I said to teams. If there
(21:11):
was love, there can be love again. You know, there's
a certain amount of redemption or forgiveness within there.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
So it's also just like I, I try to stay
in my lane as well.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
You know, it's not again, like Isaac said, it's not
really my business, but I I want everybody to get along.
But if you can't, man, I'm gonna keep it moving exactly.
Speaker 7 (21:26):
You really think though, that there could be love again.
It seems like he's kind of like done with that situation.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
I mean, then he's probably then he's probably done, you know,
But I always there, there's always hope.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
It's interesting with power to good.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
Powers built on loyalty, is built on betrayal and ambition.
I don't want to ask y'all in real life, what's
more dangerous ambition with no loyalty or loyalty with no ambition.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Wow, I'll go ambition with no loyalty. Yeah, same, that's
what I would do. That'sangerous. I'm still process.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
That's deep, gus, I'll be overthinking something fantastic.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Lord to lord, I probably to concur like ambition.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
I think ambition could be because some too much ambition
can always ruin a relationship because therefore, now you're just
going to what you want, you can becomes you cancome
very selfish in aspect. When you become selfish, you end
up hurting a lot of people around you, especially when
they try to be loyal to you, you know. And
then yeah, you ambition that you moving different as you say,
were moving weird, you know, you know, so trying to
figure that out.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I think that's that's a good question.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
But I like when the Power Show and all of
its incurr nations shows that that that without loyalty, without this,
with just blind ambition, things fall apart. You know, this
kind of lifestyle is people you can't be happy in
a lot of ways. I always say Time is like
a vampire somebody she keeps living, but like he's living
alone and it could be a lonely life.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
It's like it's not winning.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Yeah, every day is like you're looking over your shoulder,
you trying to figure it out. There was some scenes
always looking always admired. You know, I told you does
because you talked about how can you walk away from
But there's scenes where you know, I'm just only my
first season, they're doing it and I'm like, but you
feel all the treachery behind you. People are trying to
do all these things, like feeling like Gennar are trying
to kill Diamond.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
I personalized that a little bit.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
Like so even on the set, like I couldn't talk
to him for a little while because I was like
knowing how you know, just knowing how you moved.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
He's sitting around the corner, over the corner.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Smoking the square, laughing, being Chris Aspig. I'm in the barbershop,
looking like this, Like I still wasn't over with it
for a time because and I was admired about the
you know, the character Tompy's because he dealt with that
for so many seasons on Power like open over again
and then come to this.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
I'm like, it takes some therapy.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
It takes some you know, some aspect later on to
be like okay, let me let that go.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
It takes practice because it is deep feeling.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Still in therapy and you're talking to the right guys
here or advocates for it.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
It's a cane enable dynamic to y'all relationship on the shoulder.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
It definitely is, I think so, I definitely think it's
that that's a good analogy, Joseph.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Is there an end of the Power universe?
Speaker 6 (23:56):
Like, have there been talks like to the maybe to
the end of Tommy's character.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
There's been talks, But I feel like in terms of
the end of the Power Universe, I think that most
talks are about expansion.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
All right, where can we go next?
Speaker 4 (24:13):
You know, we're the only Power show that takes place
outside of New York, So that was kind of a
big thing for them at this point too.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
But then with you know, with fifties, other shows with fight.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Land coming out and in England, I feel like they're
going to probably be thinking about a little bit of
international expansion in some capacity through the Power Universe. And
then I'm sure that they'll they'll expand on stories in
New York like they are doing already in the Origin story,
but I bet there will be more spin offs that
take place around.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
NYC. Do you have an idea what what you would
want the ending? I know exactly what I would want
the ending for Tommy.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
In fact, me and Gary Lennon are already starting to
make an outline for a for a movie, for a
feature that would be kind of the possibly the final
final chapter.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Had tell us, listen, you know about this. I don't
want this to be the past.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Fifty Every move I make that has anything to do
with Power, and almost any move I make anything he
wants to though he could know. But any move I
make it fifth is all I always have.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Because it's responsible.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
He he's he's old it because yeah, because I'm a
loyal you know, friend or colleague or whatever. But he's
also old it because he's old it because he's an
executive producer and a creator.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
So he's old it twice.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
But I also I always give the respect to fifth
because there's.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
A good guy.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Like he's been a good person of me, a great
person of me. He's taught me a lot, he sat
down with me, he's been accessible. Like I realized how
much I owe fifty and I'm grateful.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Well, definitely check out the final season of Force. Make
sure you check it out. The first episode was last Friday.
And we appreciate you brothers for joining us. Thank you
so much.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Thanks. Isaac's Christy Lofton. It's the breakfast Club, good More.
He's sting peel frad Jaw. It's ninety five de Creek.
I ain't got no and no game got me.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Just go.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
I'm about to show my
You're checking out the breakfast club.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Holding everybody is dj n V just hilarious. Charlamaane the guy.
We are the breakfast Club. Layla Roses here as well.
We got some special guests.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
In the Belding.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yes, indeed, you got Chris Lofton, we got Isaac Keys,
and we got Joseph Sicar.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Welcome, gentlemen, fantastic.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
You saw that the first episode that dropped us heavy
last week. Guess right, set it up for the rest
of the season. It's gonna be fire season.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
How do y'all approach doing a final season?
Speaker 5 (00:32):
Like?
Speaker 6 (00:32):
How does that even make y'all feel? Is it bittersweet?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Like? Is how do you approach?
Speaker 5 (00:36):
I think you like you just said a bittersweet, But
you know, I think once we know it's the final season,
I think it makes us it goes look harder, you
know what I mean, like make sure we make the
scenes a little bit more intense. I think the writing
room did the same thing, and just making sure that
every episode had a bang factor to it. You know,
it's actives, you know, like we're gonna put our best
foot forward, and I think we did a great job
doing that.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Is it always that feeling?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Like the last show will be so amazing, but like, yeah,
we just can't like that we got to do another
one or another one?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Is that is that ever feeling all? You're like, now,
what is it? Right? Well?
Speaker 4 (01:00):
I think that Gary and I just wanted to make
sure that we gave Chicago Chicago's do. A big thing
was is that I didn't produce the first season, just
the second and the third season. And a big thing
for me was getting Chicago better, you know, a little
bit more realistic. Like even the Power Show is kind
of like New York adjacent, but we wanted to be
Chicago adjacent, but it's like it's a real place. We
(01:21):
wanted to show the diversity within the diversity.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Like I think it was kind.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Of like like a globular South side of Chicago, a
globular West side, And I just mean that there was
no specificity or details, and we do a lot more
detail oriented stuff in the third season, and I think
that the city.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Is really going to bless this show for this final season.
Speaker 7 (01:39):
What did you do to do that? What was your
research like leaving this well.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Yeah, you know, I mean I moved. I moved to
New York twenty six years ago. So it's like, you know,
I went back early and I met with cops and
robbers and asked and learned more about the city, because
when I was there, there was really it was really
a city of gang nations.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
You know, there was folks and people and a lot.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Of things that were the rules that were street rules
that were uh followed. And now with the emergence of
kind of like all these renegade gangs and gangs within
that used to be nations that kind of went against
each other, where would the pipeline be coming from?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
How would Tommy Egan survive in this?
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Who would want to just make the money and who
would just want to see him dead? And I think
that we do a lot of responsible storytelling, and like
there's a million people going at each other in on
the south side and on the west side, and where
the distribution comes from, and some of the cartels that
would really truly exist that mimic the cartels in real life.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
That's what we did.
Speaker 7 (02:31):
Were there any things in your research trying to get
it so real where you were like, nah, we don't
want to touch this just because of what may actively
be happening, or just because his history wise, you just
don't want to.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
You don't want to Yeah, well you know, yeah, I
mean Chris and Ira bo from Chicago, and there's definitely
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
It's not that I'm this age this old.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
It's like in my thirties and forties, even going back,
I mean I remember it'd be like, you know, you
don't want people from the past popping up and being like, yo, man,
how why'd you put it like that?
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Or what'd you do this like this? And so you do.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
There is kind of you know, it's it's adjacent, but
it but it mimics the real life. It's like people
if you know, you know style, and I think there's
a lot of wink wik non nods to to real
life stuff going in there.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
But yeah, I mean you want to be careful, you know.
Speaker 6 (03:14):
Tommy says an interesting tags and Joseph like, you know,
he's always needs a chase and control, a.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Power, our loyalty or revenge, Like what what's driving him
this season? Man, that's a great question.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
A lot I think a lot of it is revenge
and kind of this this uh this hunger for power
and how that that the power? You know they say
power corrupts uh complete power corrupts completely. Yeah, absolutely, absolute,
power collapse. Absolutely. I know Trump is always just a
little smarter than me, but that's that's what it is.
(03:47):
And I think that again, it's it's like can you
have it all? And that's that's the question, because Tommy's
going for it all this time and is he going
to sacrifice loyalty with Diamond?
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Is he gonna say?
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Is he gonna h do backhanded deals with Jennard who's
a backhanded deal master?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
But yeah, so it's a really exciting season.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Gary Lennon again, our show runner in the WHO writing room,
did a fantastic job.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I'm so proud of them, and I think the fans
are gonna be really happy. And for sure, I always
feel like Diamond's trying to move righteous in a dirty world.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
I agree, I'm doing a great job then trying to
portray I think you know it is like you just said,
like you can't it's not moral values.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
It's too much in the street. Now, that's the street codes.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
You try to go buy those things, but those more
than valid get you killed. And he was trying to
play both sides for so long. And the thing now
is you start to see he's starting to like he's
choosing side. He's both feed in you know. Now he's
actually kind of looking at at Tommy like while you
while you're in love, you know, looking at his brother
Jannar because he wants that brother relationship, I believe, But
at the same time that's gonna it could be his downfall.
I mean, it's all about relationships and alliances right now,
(04:48):
and how you choose and what side you're gonna choose
to go on. And I think Domon's in the calling
that little Quandra right.
Speaker 7 (04:53):
Now, you guys relationship, I'm gonna say, Diamond and Tommy,
Joseph and Isaac. You you guys relationship in the new
season kind of mimics what the relationship was with Ghosts
and Tommy a bit in the reverse.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (05:07):
Yeah, And it's weird because it's like, now you're in
that power seat, no pun intendent, but now you're in
a driver's seat, right and you're able to like choose
what you say what you don't say, and you're kind
of like controlling him. Was that purposely done for the
fans who've been following all the shows to kind of
put that together?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yes, yeah, I think so.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
But I also love how it mimics just like that
hurt people, hurt people and if you know, you kind
of follow the faults of your father or.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Whatever that expression.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Charlie Mane will correct me, but there, you know, the
sins of the father. It's like there's there is there
is this kind of reverseness that's happening too, And we'll
see what happens to Tommy, because ultimately what happened to
ghosts so you know, you gotta see what happened.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Definitely, there was a moment in the first episode where
there was that when you came to talk to him
in the warehouse. I felt like you turned into ghost
in that moment, and but Tommy checked himself too. Yeah,
but I felt like ghost would have did that to you.
It was almost like reverse oycology, like were just telling
them what you know, he needed hard.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Time saying yeah.
Speaker 7 (06:03):
I felt like I didn't even know you thought that
you were checking yourself in that moment.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
And it's hard to talk about, but it was real.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
I mean, I think Tommy is an honest character in
the way when he's like, yo, man, I should have
told you everything. I should have done that, but it's
timing gonna do it again. That's the that's the thing. Yes,
it's like it was smart. It's like knips.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
He knew how to he needed, knew how to do
like minimize the situation at the time because that felt
diamonds coming high. And I think that was a different
level of seeing Tommy, you know, and Joseph play that.
So you know, yeah, I thought it was. It's a
great thing because it was even hard for me as
a character, like they like, no bring it. I'm like,
y'all want me to bring it, you know, like that
no bringing it, And it's starting to it starts to
build with the character.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
Chris, how do you see Janaud And I see people
call him the smart villains and people call him a monsters.
He just a man trying to out hustle a system
that's against stacked against him.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Man.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
I think Gerard is misunderstood because honestly, Isaac hate when
I go off into this tangent, but I honestly feel
like nobody's looking at it the right way. I feel like,
because I'm actually from Chicago, I try to implement a
lot of what I know the people are gonna be
watching this saying like, nah, that ain't that ain't how
we were doing in Chicago. Y'all really gonna let this
white boy come up in here and do that? To me,
(07:08):
I feel like I'm the voice of the fans. So
to me, I look at Gernard as to me, the
only one that got some sense for real, because why
I'm supposed to not know anything about what Tommy was
doing those six years on power, I'm supposed to not
know that. To me, this is just a white man
in Chicago who may or may not be the police.
Nobody knows, Like, why are we all so trusting in him?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Like nobody?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
And then with my brother, I'm like, Okay, you were
in prison. I heard you like to cut hair in jail.
That's what you was in there doing, right, Bought you
a barbershop, Put you up, You're comfortable, you got something
to do. Stay out the way. You're on parole.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
You hot.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
You're not supposed to be touching the streets. You're gonna
mess up the whole organization. If you get caught, you're
gonna blow.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
It all up.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
So I'll handle it. Talk to you, we'll deliberate, we'll
be partners, brothers. You know that was my goal. My dream,
didn't work out like that.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Is that difficult to make it make sense because what
you just said is I have to make it mean.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I had to make it make sense because you know,
look at.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Him from we understand it. But this is a new series. Yes, yeah,
to me trying to make it make sense. I did
create that backstory, I said with I remember I told
Joseph Isaac and with Gary Lennon, our showrunner. I created
a whole backstory in my head to make some of
this makes sense. Because obviously I will never go against
my brother trying to kill my brother.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
That's crazy. But I tried to make it make sense.
To Gannar, It's like, Okay, we talking about millions of dollars.
This organization CBR is supposed to be worth millions of dollars,
And if he's been in prison for fifteen years, that
means I kind of know more life without.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Him than with him.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
And now if we add millions of dollars into the
mix and some new person that nobody knows who's white,
how about I kill both of you? How about I
just killed both of you. You ain't even been here
for fifteen years. Anyway, I could do without you, you know.
So it's like I don't understand. Like, so that's how
I had to convince myself. And sometimes I get too
invested in it and I'm like, yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Know what, get too invested.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I get to invest in sometimes and I'll be like, no,
this is wrong.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Nobody gets gannar.
Speaker 7 (08:58):
But that across on screen, though, I feel like on screen,
you're like the little brother that's like, no, I can
do this, listen to me, Listen to me, but then
you be messing up and then you gotta call it done.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Thank you. That's the little brother thing though, what people
New York. I'm told him that we have.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
More with Joseph Sicora, Isaac Keys, and Christie lofton when
we come back.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
The cast of PowerBook for Force, So don't move. It's
to Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Good morning, everybody is j n V Jess hilarious, Charlamagne
the guy. We are the Breakfast Club law la roses
here as well. We're still kicking it with Joseph Socora,
Isaac Keys, and Christie Loft in the cast of PowerBook
for Force.
Speaker 7 (09:40):
Lauren speaking of the brother dynamic, you guys, dynamic is
kind of like the same but a bit different in
this new season because you're kind of making your own moves,
and you got your girl and.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
She's you know, helping you a bit more.
Speaker 7 (09:52):
You trust them a little bit more, but you're not
at the same time, What do you guys want your
relationship to say to people in a regular world about
brotherlationships big brother little brother relationships.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
People that don't sell.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Drugs they do right, I would personally, I would probably say, like,
forgiveness could probably be a thing, and love Trump's all
and blood is definitely thinking the water. I think I
would want people to like take that from it, like
blood is truly thick in the water, and your family
I feel like the only people closer till you can
hurt you because if you don't care about somebody, they
can't hurt your feelings. They can't, they can't betray you.
(10:24):
You know, it has to come from somebody you love.
So I feel like learning to forgive and learning that
family Trump's all is something that I would want people
to know.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
But blood is finite. Water is infinite, you know there's.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Yeah, I think water is going to make you survive
longer than blood.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
You drink that a little bit, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
The French soldiers with the Russian horses, but the water
that's life giving the war.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
You take it to war.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
I think, you know, it's real life, Like you know,
we all have family members that we necessarily don't get along,
but we still kind of love them, but we may
have to keep from a farmer trying to figure him out.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I think it's really deep about the relationships.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
I think the whole show really dies into how the
relationship and the toxicity of it, you know, like you know,
like you know, really all just communicate, if you just
communicate for the person, if his brother, if Diamond would
have gave Yournard a hug, you know, another hug, and
sometimes he might've made him feel a little better or
just talked about it, like how you gonna kill your brother?
Like it's the deepness and the deaftness of what you're
willing to lose and sacrifice for what you want to
(11:25):
kind of molds you want and then how does that
align in your life? Like to him killing his brother,
that wasn't enoughing for him some people that's something hard
to do. We still get on the streets all the time.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Like why why you don't kill you, Why you don't
kill your brother? Why do you know, unlive your brother.
It's like, can you do that? Would you be able
to do in the world. So that tussle, I think
is just amazing to show the relationship to it. But
you sound like them.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
I'm saying, this man just feel motivational for some reason.
Sometimes what does redemption look like for Like now that
the creature, you know, keep pulling him back.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
I think ultimately what Diamond wants he wants that to
be able to make make this money, have power, but
he doesn't want all the violence and stuff to go
along with it.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
At some point, like.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
If it was the best world, the coalition, everybody working together,
you know, everybody's making money.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Let's just do that and be cool, you know.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
And I think that, yeah, and I think but it's like,
you know, when you see the character of Detiment character
coming with Joseph play so well, it's like, now we
want more than that, we want more of that. So
he's still got to make his moves and make his moves,
you know, in align with how he wants to move,
so that somehow kind of creates that friction between everyone
in a sense, because there's so many players in this,
you know, we still have the little Laddin to the
cartel side and how the control that they have. So
(12:39):
now we're trying to you know, I think Diamonds redemptious.
He really just wanted to he wants.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
To be there.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
But but but you know, it ain't gonna work the
way he wants it to work, and that's how it works.
Speaker 7 (12:48):
You do you think the world will ever look at
the game organization as like anything for anything righteous they've
ever done? I know with BMN fifty also trying to
talk about the family unit and stuff like that, and
it's very presser that you're that character in this show.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
But people don't see that.
Speaker 7 (13:03):
They only say why would you guys be in a
show that showcases all these things.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
I'm sure you get that question on the time.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
Do you think the world will ever say, but wait,
there was a righteous component to this, there was a
family aspect.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
Yes, And I think even outside the show, we make
sure we do a lot of stuff in the community.
I make sure we talk, we have speaking engagements and
talking to make sure we know this is entertainment. It's
telling the story, you know, a story of some made
up characters, of some made up characters that you know,
they how they move in the streets and how their
life and how they find the family dynamics happen. And
I think that also by showing that in Chicago, with
all the things that's going on with the city of Chicago,
(13:34):
we're able to show the entertainment part of it, but
we're also able to talk touch on some of the
things of the diversity of the city and how the
city is made up in the history and the architecture,
and just kind of giving some more light on the
city in that way as well too.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
But I think it's very important for.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
People to know even as we talk, is to make
sure that we know that this is a story. It's
a TV series, plancres, it's not real life. It's the
Power Universe. We know that's not you know, in real life.
It's so many things that happened that must think pulls
up anywhere in no parking tickets, nothing.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
I won't say.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I won't say that that these stories are might not
be based on somebody's real life, but they are lives
that's happening out there. Tommy, every time, me and my brother.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
That's how it was, you mean, and that's why I.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Think these stories mean so much, you know, and a
lot of times, like she said, a lot of people
feel like, oh, well, they're idolizing or they're making it
seem like this.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
But for a lot of times, that's what we grew.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Up seeing, Right, we grew up seeing the local drug dealers,
and you always wanted to know what I always wanted
to know.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Like how did they do their business? How did it work?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
So I think this kind of gives you an inside
false or not false, but primarily true of how it
works and how it got down.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
So when you.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
Tape some things, so Tommy would have been in jail
a long time ago. Man, he drives the same getaway
car and it's a loud.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Loud, hard to drive too pretty, it'd be pretty easy
to peg Tommy.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
He's not switching up rides all that much.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Although in the original Power Show they did, you know,
some of that, some of that.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
I think when you made that drive go, you switch
cars in the original.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Right, No, it's like they bucked me out of the cart.
Let's not talk about season one.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
I was gonna ask, you know, when you talk about
street credit and talking about what's real, how how important
is street code when you're doing these shows?
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Mmm?
Speaker 1 (15:17):
I honestly do think it's important. Honestly, we got to
keep it true to what it is. But also there
are some things that we don't want to touch on
because it's too real. Like that's why they don't mention
like real gangs. We make up gang names because we
don't want to seem like we're promoting actual gang violence
in the city or making other gangs. Because our dms
are crazy. I can't speak for everybody, but mine is insane.
(15:40):
Like my dms get crazy when the show on the
death threats and a lot of people, oh dog, I
get crazy DM. So it's like we try to be
careful with that.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
I think you're slipping little vernacular improves that every now
and again when I see in the cut, I'm.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Really from Chicago, so I'll try to slip in the
phone again.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I'm trying to slip it in and.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
There because I know the city is going to be
like bro, I know, I know like that the city
of Chicago is behind it. I feel like New York
and Chicago are two cities that they don't We don't
really particularly like when actors portray being from there if
they're not really from there, Like we don't want you
to come from LA and try to be on the
New York TV show saying you a hood dude from.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
New York Man London Brown crushes it as.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
The exceptional case. London Brown shout out to London. That's
my dog. But like, I don't feel like New York
and Chicago likes.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
That that l They don't like it at all. L
A is another one, Yeah, and they don't like it.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I also wanted to know, when y'all shoot so many
different films, how do y'all stay in character? TV shows,
TV shows? Yeah, how do y'all stay in character in
all the shows? Because you have different characters in different shows.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
I mean for me, it is the simple version for
me is action and cut, Like I'm not with you.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Yeah, I've never been that.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Guy for real that really like takes it home with me.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
I just neither.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yeah, I just know how to disassociate a lot.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
More from on.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
I just find that there's a lot more fun when
you get to it is. But also it's like coming
you know, coming from the theater, darling. You know, it's
like if you're not going to bring that character home,
you're playing the guy for six months, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
You just you just bring it to the theater. That's
why you warm up, that's why you get you know,
the whole thing. Do you imagine Joseph pulled up to
pick up his kid from school. He pulled up in
the car.
Speaker 7 (17:22):
See, it's so hard to not see Tommy, all of
you guys. It's hard to not envision y'all in the show.
I'm like, dang, I was just watching you last night
like me.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
I think does a fantastic job acting because you's nothing
like Tommy in.
Speaker 7 (17:32):
Real too, but the voice is there.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
He's selling copious amounts of drugs, but.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
We got more with Joseph, Isaac Keys and Christy Lofton.
When we come back, it's the breakfast Club in the morning.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Girl going back, Take three Act, No clouds in my
stul Let it rain out?
Speaker 5 (17:57):
How you playing in the fank?
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Coming down down Jones? When the class can we go?
We wrack a fella go hide and weather and she.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
Wos Beta you know me in anticipation for specification stack
chips with a rainy day.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Rain Man is back. We're a little miss. Show me
out the way you act. You hold the high and
we'll never be well. Baby.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
In Magazine, but you still being up baby because they
the you can't.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
And that's me.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
There besw Wallowasia, I'm.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Show somebody who's dj V.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Just Hilarry Charlamagne the guy. We are to Breakfast Club
Long the Roses here as well. We're still kicking it
with Joseph Socora, Isaac Keys, and Christie Loft in the
cast A Power Book four Force.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Now this is the third and final season Charlomagne.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
Isaac and Christian regard to the dealing with fifty cents?
So what did y'all learn from Little Meeta? I never
want to be on fifties bad side, that's all.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
I just learned that.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
And I never I never want to owe fifty money
ever in life, not from Little Meets but just in general,
just from No. Number One money because I know he
wants it by Monday, and uh and I just you know,
and I just want to stay on this good side.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
I don't know, you know, with him and little whole
little meat thing, I have no clue. I'm not privy
to truly what's going on. Then, I just know my
loyalty runs deep.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
I know.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
The day I booked this role. One of the first
things I did. You would appreciate this, Charla macause you
know you you a little messy. First thing I did
was I went straight to John Rue's Instagram and pressed unfollowed,
followed back right now.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
This is fallow back because I'd already met y'all. I've
already met him, but long before I got a follow.
I met him and he followed me, his manager and everything.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
And I said, the one thing that will not happen,
Curtis Jackson will not just.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Be sitting down one day and go on John.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Rule's page and see followed by Christy Lofton.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
You will not. And I just unfollowed it.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I don't know, guy, heavens know out with.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Everybody, if you've got problem, you won't follow.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I'll follow ricks everybody.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
I don't follow any of them.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
I swear when we get off, I'm the show yourself.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Here's the viral moment I saw you.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
I answer what man, I've learned as you talked about football,
and I was walking my life, man like. I don't
get involved in the miss. I don't get involved anything,
especially I have too many other problems my own to
be worried about something else and what's going on over
there because you never know all the complete details. You
never know, so why passed judge nor they try to
you know whatever, I just mind my business.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Man, simple, Joseph. I want to say, I saw TMZ
ran it to you.
Speaker 7 (20:44):
They asked you about the me situation fifty posted and
it said you was too smart.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
You got about it very easy.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
I don't know if I got out of very easy
my words pretty carefully. But it's because I think it
means you's a nice young man. And I think that
what people forget is that fifth paid for his acting classes.
I mean, he invested into meach. So there's there's a
certain amount there that's that's you know, there there was love,
and I basically what I said to teams. If there
(21:11):
was love, there can be love again. You know, there's
a certain amount of redemption or forgiveness within there.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
So it's also just like I, I try to stay
in my lane as well.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
You know, it's not again, like Isaac said, it's not
really my business, but I I want everybody to get along.
But if you can't, man, I'm gonna keep it moving exactly.
Speaker 7 (21:26):
You really think though, that there could be love again.
It seems like he's kind of like done with that situation.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
I mean, then he's probably then he's probably done, you know,
But I always there, there's always hope.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
It's interesting with power to good.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
Powers built on loyalty, is built on betrayal and ambition.
I don't want to ask y'all in real life, what's
more dangerous ambition with no loyalty or loyalty with no ambition.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Wow, I'll go ambition with no loyalty. Yeah, same, that's
what I would do. That'sangerous. I'm still process.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
That's deep, gus, I'll be overthinking something fantastic.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Lord to lord, I probably to concur like ambition.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
I think ambition could be because some too much ambition
can always ruin a relationship because therefore, now you're just
going to what you want, you can becomes you cancome
very selfish in aspect. When you become selfish, you end
up hurting a lot of people around you, especially when
they try to be loyal to you, you know. And
then yeah, you ambition that you moving different as you say,
were moving weird, you know, you know, so trying to
figure that out.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I think that's that's a good question.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
But I like when the Power Show and all of
its incurr nations shows that that that without loyalty, without this,
with just blind ambition, things fall apart. You know, this
kind of lifestyle is people you can't be happy in
a lot of ways. I always say Time is like
a vampire somebody she keeps living, but like he's living
alone and it could be a lonely life.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
It's like it's not winning.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Yeah, every day is like you're looking over your shoulder,
you trying to figure it out. There was some scenes
always looking always admired. You know, I told you does
because you talked about how can you walk away from
But there's scenes where you know, I'm just only my
first season, they're doing it and I'm like, but you
feel all the treachery behind you. People are trying to
do all these things, like feeling like Gennar are trying
to kill Diamond.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
I personalized that a little bit.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
Like so even on the set, like I couldn't talk
to him for a little while because I was like
knowing how you know, just knowing how you moved.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
He's sitting around the corner, over the corner.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Smoking the square, laughing, being Chris Aspig. I'm in the barbershop,
looking like this, Like I still wasn't over with it
for a time because and I was admired about the
you know, the character Tompy's because he dealt with that
for so many seasons on Power like open over again
and then come to this.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
I'm like, it takes some therapy.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
It takes some you know, some aspect later on to
be like okay, let me let that go.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
It takes practice because it is deep feeling.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Still in therapy and you're talking to the right guys
here or advocates for it.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
It's a cane enable dynamic to y'all relationship on the shoulder.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
It definitely is, I think so, I definitely think it's
that that's a good analogy, Joseph.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Is there an end of the Power universe?
Speaker 6 (23:56):
Like, have there been talks like to the maybe to
the end of Tommy's character.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
There's been talks, But I feel like in terms of
the end of the Power Universe, I think that most
talks are about expansion.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
All right, where can we go next?
Speaker 4 (24:13):
You know, we're the only Power show that takes place
outside of New York, So that was kind of a
big thing for them at this point too.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
But then with you know, with fifties, other shows with fight.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Land coming out and in England, I feel like they're
going to probably be thinking about a little bit of
international expansion in some capacity through the Power Universe. And
then I'm sure that they'll they'll expand on stories in
New York like they are doing already in the Origin story,
but I bet there will be more spin offs that
take place around.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
NYC. Do you have an idea what what you would
want the ending? I know exactly what I would want
the ending for Tommy.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
In fact, me and Gary Lennon are already starting to
make an outline for a for a movie, for a
feature that would be kind of the possibly the final
final chapter.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Had tell us, listen, you know about this. I don't
want this to be the past.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Fifty Every move I make that has anything to do
with Power, and almost any move I make anything he
wants to though he could know. But any move I
make it fifth is all I always have.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Because it's responsible.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
He he's he's old it because yeah, because I'm a
loyal you know, friend or colleague or whatever. But he's
also old it because he's old it because he's an
executive producer and a creator.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
So he's old it twice.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
But I also I always give the respect to fifth
because there's.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
A good guy.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Like he's been a good person of me, a great
person of me. He's taught me a lot, he sat
down with me, he's been accessible. Like I realized how
much I owe fifty and I'm grateful.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Well, definitely check out the final season of Force. Make
sure you check it out. The first episode was last Friday.
And we appreciate you brothers for joining us. Thank you
so much.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Thanks. Isaac's Christy Lofton. It's the breakfast Club, good More.
He's sting peel frad Jaw. It's ninety five de Creek.
I ain't got no and no game got me.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Just go.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
I'm about to show my
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