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Co founders of Points Talk Squad. The headliner is luxury
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Welcome back, Beautiful New York, Tri State Area and beyond.
You're listening to a moment of Zen right here on
seven ten WR, the voice of New York iHeartRadio. I'm
your host, Zenzam's welcome back to the Elevating Experiences segment,
brought to you by MTK, New York. A recent Deloitte
travel report shows that more than half of Americans say
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travel is a top priority, yet cost remains the number
one barrier.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Translation.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Families want the memories, they just don't think they can
afford them.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
So today's headliner is luxury travel isn't for the wealthy,
It's for the strategic.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
We're talking about how three women are rewriting the rules
of family travel using.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Points and miles.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Joining me right now are the co founders of Points
Talk Squad. Alex Payne, mom of four boys and full
time memory maker, Jess Field, former lawyer who left a
lot to teach.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Families how to travel smarter.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
And Pam Ornge, retired nurse, former extreme couponer, grandma of
twenty one.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Welcome to the show, ladies.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Thank you, So I'm going to start with you, PEM.
You went from extreme couponding to booking business class flights
and for years saving money meant clipping and stacking discounts.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
What clicked for.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
You when you realized points and miles could like literally
upperform traditional frugality.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
You know, I just had always a super passion for traveling.
I would keep on every single week, and what whatever
I saved would go in a little ledger, and that
was my travel money. I was doing the slow slow burn.
So I had heard about people who were using points
and miles for travel, but it was way out there.
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And all of a sudden, Alex came to me one
day and she had a friend who had been doing
this and talk to me about it. You got to
be kidding me. That completely changed everything for me. I
wasn't doing the slow burn. I was doing the fast burn.
I started traveling all over when I was cup hunting
and saving some money, I was on those economy seats,
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I was staying in moderate hotels. I got into points
and miles, and hey, I don't travel international unless it's
in a business lay flat seat. I am a very
boogie traveler. Now I like the good life and this
is just open up the world to things I thought
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I could never be able to do.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Wow, you're blowing my mind. I'm doing I'm definitely doing
something wrong.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
But what I love about this is that it reframes wealth.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Right, It's not income, it's information and studies, studies do
show billions of dollars in credit card rewards go unused
every single year, and that's.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
Not because people don't qualify. It's because people don't understand
the system. And well, you decided to learn it, So
kudos to you.
Speaker 7 (06:27):
Thanks.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
So Alex, you're a mom before boys.
Speaker 8 (06:30):
You got sports schedules, you got school breaks, you got chaos. Yeah,
so strategic travel sounds glamorous, but what does it look
like in real life when you're juggling tournaments and limited pto?
Speaker 5 (06:43):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 9 (06:43):
It is getting out those schedules, getting out the sports schedule,
getting in the school schedule, of matching those up and
figure out where is some time where we don't have
something going on. And you really have to take advantage
of those opportunities because parents with multiple kids in school
and sports, you know how difficult it is to find
time where you don't have something going on. And that's
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the key thing is looking ahead. What we see a
lot is even my husband was telling me the other day.
Someone at work was like, Hey, I'm thinking of going
to Costa Rica for spring break. Spring break is like
for some people next months. I mean there's times I'm
planning trips nine to twelve months in advance so that
I get the exact trip that I want, because that's
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what's going to happen. Is you're gonna think, Hey, we're
gonna go to Coast Rica for spring break, but spoiler,
you're maybe not because at the time you go to
use your points to book your hotels day, it's already
long gone. So booking ahead is crucial for busy families.
Speaker 10 (07:40):
I'm glad that you've made that distinction, because that's the
differentiator between paying full freight doing it last minute, and
planning ahead and playing and paying a fraction of the
cost for that same exact trip done strategically.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Suggest you're a.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Former lawyer, you understand fine print and risk mitigation. There's
fear narrative around credit cards, right, what are families misunderstanding
about rewards and how can they maybe use them responsibly
without falling into debt traps.
Speaker 11 (08:10):
I think a lot of people see our content and
they see, oh, they redeemed twenty five thousand points for
this flight, or they redeemed one hundred thousand points for
this luxury resort stay. And they think, oh, that means
I have to spend twenty five thousand dollars on my
credit card, or I have to spend one hundred thousand
dollars on my credit card. That's not possible for my family.
And that is not the case at all. Everything we
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teach is about using credit cards for your everyday expenses
and earning those big welcome offers.
Speaker 12 (08:41):
On the credit cards.
Speaker 11 (08:42):
That's how we accumulate the vast majority of our points
and miles that translate into nearly free travel. And so
the key is shifting your spend either not using a
debit card or cash and instead using your credit.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Card, or like Pam said, not just using one.
Speaker 11 (08:58):
Credit card, like there are so many who have their
Costco credit card and that they charge everything to their
Costco credit card, you know, which is which is fine,
But you're leaving a ton of points and miles and
free travel on the table and doing that. So it's
pretty much shifting the way you spend, putting it all
on a credit card, but then also treating that credit
card like a debit card, making sure that you can
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pay it off on time and in full every month.
Speaker 12 (09:22):
But especially with families.
Speaker 13 (09:23):
These expenses rack up so quickly, between the cost of
groceries and gas and dining out, and medical expenses and
needing new tires and just everyday life.
Speaker 12 (09:34):
People don't really like.
Speaker 11 (09:35):
The silver lining of all those expenses is getting a
free trip out of them.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Right.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
It's interesting because when you look at back to statistics. Right,
we're all about editatement on the show, but the Federal
Reserve consistently reports that revolving credit card debt is a
stressor for many households. But the key distinction is this
rewards only work if you're already spending responsibly. This isn't
about spending more, It's about spending smarter. Yes, So, Pam,
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you're a grandma to is this correct?
Speaker 5 (10:06):
Twenty one kids?
Speaker 14 (10:07):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (10:09):
Twenty one grandchildren and I have five children, God bless.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (10:16):
So how has points travel allowed you to create multi
generational memories that might not have been possible otherwise.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
Oh, it's been key. I'm sure that you know. If
I was just living on my retirement money, would we
be doing some you know, kids coming to my house,
some little tiny vacations. But instead I'm able to Like
last year, I took all of my children, all my
girls on a trip and covered it with points a mile.
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So we went to Alex and I went to Roatan.
I took a daughter to Saint Kids, another daughter. Oh,
we went to the Dominican Republic. I've done the same
with grandchildren. We take one of our we take two
or three of our grandchildren every summer on a trip
with us to Hawaii, and using points and miles has
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made that so much easier, so much less expensive, and
so points some miles has fieled these This is not
something I couldn't have planned, these multi generational trips at
all on my retirement from being a nurse.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
So, Alex, let's talk luxury.
Speaker 15 (11:25):
Yeah, what's one redemption you've booked flight or hotel that
would shock listeners to learn was mostly covered with points.
Speaker 9 (11:35):
Yeah, this is a really interesting timing that you asked
this question because I am headed to the Maldives here
very soon. This will be my second time visiting the Maldives,
and I think that's the thing that's really cool about
this is you think like, oh, there's these bucket lists
once in a lifetime trips and with points of miles,
nothing's once in a lifetime. You can repeat these once
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in a lifetime trips. So I my husband I went
to the Maldives in twenty twenty two. We flew late
flat business class seats. There we stayed in an overwater villa,
like total pinch me, how was this real? And I
used points for the late flat seats and the overwater
villa and we are leaving very soon to go repeat
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that trip. So I think that like even when I
I remember the first time I went, I was like,
oh my gosh, I can't believe I'm in this overwater
villa that I.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Didn't pay for.
Speaker 9 (12:28):
I need to go tell all my friends how to
do this, because it's really exciting when you realize what's possible.
And I think that's something that so many people have
on their bucket lists. But they think I'm never going
to be able to make that happen, or I'm gonna
have to save and do that when I'm retired, and
you know, say for years to make that kind of
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trip happen. But you can do it now, and you
can do it again and again. So that's the cute
one for me.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
It's just mind blowing.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
And this is where the myth explodes, because when people
hear business class or five star resort, they assume six
figure income, you know, But in reality, it's about understanding
transfer partners and welcome bonuses and timing.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
It's really just strategy. It's not status. So I'm going to.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Pivot to you, Jess. You left a legal career to
teach this full time.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
I did.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
What did you see in the marketplace that convinced you
that convinced you that this wasn't just a hobby, but
like truly a financial literacy gap families needed filled.
Speaker 11 (13:31):
Yeah, so I opened my very first travel rewards credit
card in twenty fifteen. And at that time, you know,
social media wasn't as big as it is now, and
all the blogs and everyone teaching points and miles were men,
and it was a lot of business men. It was
a lot of single men who were like, let me
show you.
Speaker 13 (13:49):
How to fly business class with my glasses champagne in
my hand.
Speaker 12 (13:53):
But I couldn't relate to that.
Speaker 11 (13:55):
I was a mom, and I was like, I can't
I need some one teaching me how to do this
that I can relate to. And the thing is, studies
have shown women make eighty percent or more of travel decisions.
It's the moms making travel decisions.
Speaker 12 (14:11):
It's the wives, it's the daughters.
Speaker 11 (14:13):
And so women need access to this information the same,
if not more than men do, and so I think
we all share that.
Speaker 12 (14:21):
That's why we started this is I was.
Speaker 11 (14:23):
Like, we need women and moms teaching other women and
moms how to do this because like women belong in
business class, families belong in business class, and like access
shouldn't just be reserved to these men that are having
this information handed to them, we need to teach it also.
And so there was a huge gap in you know,
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being able to relate to other women and moms teaching this.
Speaker 12 (14:47):
So we wanted to fill that gap.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
And this is where empowerment happens, because the barrier isn't income,
it's clarity.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
And so you guys have done a great job. I
love it so enriching. Thank you so much for joining us, ladies.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Thank you, thanks for having us, Thanks for having us on.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
If you want to learn more and you want to
hear more from Alex, Pam and Jess, you could visit
Points Talk Squad directly at pointstalksquad dot com.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
You could follow them on.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Instagram, YouTube, TikTok, and Facebook at Points Talk Squad, and
you could tune in to the Points Talk podcast for
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Zam's Today's clean collective Conversation sits at the intersection of motherhood,
public health, and accountability, and it's one every parent needs
to hear. The hidden ingredients making our kids sick, from
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cafeterias to cosmetics. That's not a headline meant to alarm,
It's actually a reality check. Diet related illness is now
one of the fastest growing health crises facing American children.
Nearly one in five kiddos in the US is obese,
and more than thirty million children rely on school meals
every single day, meals that often prioritize cost and shelf
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life over nourishment. And when you zoom out, this isn't
just about food, It's about cumulative exposure. My guest today
is Noralatory, CEO and co founder of Eat Real. It's
a nonprofit on a mission to end diet related illness
in American's children by trans forming school food systems, raising awareness,
and driving policy change. Nora believes and I wholeheartedly agree
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that this crisis isn't about parental failure. It's about systemic
standards and the power we have to change them.
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Welcome to the show, Superstar.
Speaker 16 (17:16):
Thank you someone for having me and having this important conversation.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Yeah, excited to dive right in. I'm a mom, I
do my research.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
This is the expert on the microphone series, so I'm
excited to look under the hood. So we're seeing health
conditions in children that used to be considered.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Adult only problems.
Speaker 17 (17:34):
Right.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
And for many kids, school meals make up the majority
of their weak day nutrition, which is alarming. So from
where you sit, what is the most misunderstood truth about
how school food.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Is contributing to this growing childhood health crisis?
Speaker 5 (17:48):
And it's a real one.
Speaker 16 (17:49):
Children's life spans and health spans are at risk, like
we're at risk and in America, giving our kids shorter,
less healthy, and less happy life and food is the
biggest driver preventable ultra process food diseases and it's the
biggest solution. And within that, we believe that school food
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and improving school food is the big bet to reverse
these negative health trends and to help stop disease before
it starts and get our kids healthy from the beginning
and nourish their minds and bodies and their academic dreams
and their larger life dreams through the power of school food.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
School food is.
Speaker 16 (18:30):
A lifeline for families and for children. A lot of
our schools around the country serve kids school breakfast, school lunch,
and school supper. And so we actually just had the
Sacramento Kings players some of them come out and.
Speaker 12 (18:44):
Serve our kids school supper.
Speaker 16 (18:46):
So it is kids are depending on these meals for
their nourishment. So it's really critical that we get them healthy, delicious,
kid friendly approved food that they'll eat and enjoy so
that we can truly nourish our child And we think
that by improving the school food system that is how
we can best create health for the next generation in
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our country.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Yeah, and that's such an important distinction nour because parents
assume safeguards are in place when the reality is far
more complicated.
Speaker 16 (19:16):
Yeah, schools are the largest restaurant chain in America. They're
bigger than Subway, Starbucks, and McDonald's combined.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
So let's talk about that. Yeah, what's actually being served?
Speaker 3 (19:28):
So what ingredients, nour or practices even in school cafeterias
concern you the most and why.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Should parents be really be paying closer attention?
Speaker 12 (19:37):
Yeah, in general in.
Speaker 16 (19:38):
Schools, but in our total food system, sixty seven percent
of kids calories are ultra process calories and so we've
really only recently started to move to this ultra processed
food environment, and it's a failed experiment. It's not working
for our kids, and it's not working for our bodies.
It's creating disease. One of the biggest concerns is just
how much sugar, particularly is hidden in in food and
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in kids food. There are over two hundred and fifty
names for sugar, so it's sneaky, it's ubiquitous, it's everywhere.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
And kids drink.
Speaker 12 (20:10):
A bathtub of added sugar a year, just drink.
Speaker 16 (20:15):
And this is like kids used to eat more like
four pounds of sugar per year and now they're eating
more over drinking over sixty five pounds of sugar. And
so one of the biggest sneaky things is just how
much sugar is hidden throughout breakfasts and lunch and in.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
It's in everything.
Speaker 16 (20:34):
Fruit is game on, fruit is totally fine, but not juiced.
Speaker 12 (20:38):
Or added sugar in products.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
And parents are often told to just make better choices,
but kids spend most of their day outside the home.
Even families who prioritize clean living can't fully control what's
served at school. So how do you help parents move
from guilt to empowerment? When so much of this is systemic.
Speaker 16 (20:58):
Yeah, parents voices really really matter and they can make
change in their local food systems, and so that can
look like getting involved in the school. And I know
parents are super busy and that's really really hard. But
we have a on our website etreil dot org slash parents.
We have a simple email like you can just do
it on your phone. Go to etail dot org slash parents,
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take the email and then find you're a nutrition director,
your food sure restrictor and send them an email that says,
you know, first of all, thank you. Hey, I heard
about eat Real on the radio and I.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Want to introduce to you.
Speaker 16 (21:30):
Can I tell you about this really cool supportive resource.
And then it's about making the introduction of our nonprofit
to your local school. And we've had parents around the
country do that. We had a mom, lyn Choi, who
did it, and she got her a school in eat
Reel's program, in our nonprofits program to help upgrade the
school food menu and certify the school district eat Real
certified so that we could help upgrade the food and
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she did it within twelve hours.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Why so, mom, a mom's on a mission make things
happen that's committed. That's real investment, and I appreciate that
so much because you know, when you look at the
parents feeling guilty or shame, shame doesn't drive change, but
information and.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Access absolutely do.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
I want to talk about even more empowerment and stepping
outside of just the box of what we're eating. Right,
It's because what we're putting on and around our body
also matters. And this segment is the clean collective series
brought to you by Crunchy, And I'm going to emphasize
this because this is where my world's collide as a
media host and personality and as a mom. So just
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like food, I'm incredibly intentional about what goes on our bodies. Right,
our skin is the biggest organ That's why Crunchy is
the only beauty brand I use and the only one
I allow my daughter to use Who's ten because it's
EWG verified, It's they're transparent, and they're aligned with those
higher standards. Back to that raising the bar that you
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just mentioned, So from your perspective, how do daily exposures, food, personal.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Care, environment compound over time?
Speaker 3 (23:01):
All of this, How does all of this affect our
children's health long term?
Speaker 16 (23:07):
We can really think about how do we give our
kids the knowledge and teach them because little little kids,
when they learn about how added sugar can shrink brain
size and how added sugar maybe that's why they have
the tummy ache that they have. When they start to learn,
they start to make decisions and they start.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
To really influence.
Speaker 16 (23:26):
I have my kids lossing near around about real food
and moving us towards real food now, and so I
think it's like teach the kids, and they also teach
the parents and they engage the family too, And so
how do we teach our kids how do they feel
really good and limit exposures themselves?
Speaker 14 (23:43):
Right?
Speaker 16 (23:43):
Even for example, I was just talking to my daughter
about polyester clothing and how do we why like some
of them more natural fibers in her sheets, in her clothing,
help her skin breathe, and don't put any microplastics in
her body. And so I think teaching them about that,
or when it comes to cosmetics, I personally love Crunchy
and love Kelly, and I trust it and I put
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on my body. So one day I'll be sharing that
with my daughter of why clean beauty really matters and
how I want her to feel and to feel her
best and to glow, but to do it in a
way that doesn't come with a side of toxic ingredients
or negative exposure for her. So I think there's a
way that we can keep it really positive and be
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teaching our kids and we don't have to carry it
all as parents when we explain the why to them
and how it's really about giving their bodies the support
to grow in a healthy way without sides of cancer
or obesogens, et cetera, that they can really develop in
a way that helps them glow for a long time.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Yeah, this conversation is exactly why the Clean Collective series
exists to really empower families with information and transparency and
standards that they can actually trust. So I thank you
so much for joining us today.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
Thank you so much to continue to follow Norish.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
You can find her in one of three ways. You
can follow her directly on Instagram at nourishtw Nora, you
could go to eatreel dot org, and you can also
check eat Reel out on the gram at eat Real Certified.
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Welcome back, beautiful Tri State area and beyond. You're listening
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Zen Sam's. Today we're diving into another edition of Lifted
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if you've been paying attention to the esthetic space lately,
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Speaker 3 (26:15):
Patients today are far more educated, more results driven, and
more focused on longevity, which is why combination therapies and
intelligent post procedure recovery have become the gold standard in
modern esthetic medicine. And joining me right now is someone
who lives at the intersection of science, artistry, and patient
(26:37):
centered care. My guest is Angelina Bondarenko, founder of Esthetic Touch.
She's a registered nurse, cosmetic injector, and medical esthetician who
has performed thousands of advanced esthetic treatments and is known
for delivering natural, radiant, highly personalized results. Today, we're going
to break down why strategic treatment stacking works, how add
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ons like CO two lift pro can dramatically impact outcomes,
and what patients should actually be thinking about after they
leave that treatment room.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Welcome to the show, superstar.
Speaker 7 (27:11):
Thank you so much for inentation. I'm very excited to
be here today.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Okay, so let's dive right in.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
So, Angelina, we're seeing more data and more real world
clinical experience showing that skin responds best when treatments are
layered intentionally right rather than performed in isolation, if you will.
So instead of chasing aggressive, single procedures, providers are now
focusing on synergy, inflammation control, barrier repair, and that cellular
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signaling all working together.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
Why are combo therapies becoming the new.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Norm anesthetic medicine rather than that standalone treatment.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
Faces and bodies They don't change in the one dimension,
so no single treatment or modality can fix everything. That's
the reason why combinational treatment are becoming the most popular
at this moment and as a news standard to aesthetic treatments.
They are increasing the results, they work better together, and
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they simply make overall experience the best.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
That makes so much sense.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
It's it's less about shocking the skin and more about
working with its biology, right, which ultimately leads to better
healing and longer lasting results. Now, when you talk about
post procedure add ons, right, so let's talk about that
COEO two lift positioning, right. So the recovery windows when
the skin is most receptive to oxygenation and hydration and
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repair signaling, but it's often underutilized. So what types of
procedures benefit most from a strategic post procedure add on
and what differences do patients notice when treatments like CEO
two lift pro are in fact incorporated into that recovery process.
Speaker 18 (28:53):
All the recovery process is about as about healing as
about make the skin so thing calm in and make
the whole experience positive with the faster recovery. What I
noticed whether the C two live pro as my recent
and one of my favorite on at this moment, it's
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literally within thirty to forty five minutes came down the
redness inflamed and irritated skin. And also the very important
part what I notice, because I'm not just looking at
the clinical point how skin reacts, also is looking for
the client perception of the treatment itself. And what I
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noticed is that important that clients are becoming more calm there.
I think it's just something going on with the also
nerve receptors. They are feeling pompered and which is make
the entire treatment more positive. Also, the clients can go
with their skin care protocol with a pack of three
sessions and make their entire if we're talking about fractional
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laser surfacing within like less than five minutes, their recollery process,
it's much easier and much faster. So that's an incredible part.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Yeah, and that recovery piece is everything, because when patients
see less redness and faster bounce back and better texture,
it completely changes how they perceive the entire treatment experience.
Like you said, so I think you're spot on for that. So, Angelina,
I mean, this has been such an insightful conversation. I
want to thank you for breaking down the science and
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the strategy and the intention behind truly effective aesthetic care.
Thank you so much for joining us today.
Speaker 7 (30:36):
Thank you so much for indentation.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
To learn more about Angelina and her work, you could
go to Aesthetic Touch, you could visit at Skin Wellness
dot com, and you could follow her on the gram
at Esthetic Underscore Touch Underscore NYC. And of course you
can learn more about cotwol Lift pro and how it's
being used by top providers nationwide by visiting Co two
lift dot com.
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Speaker 4 (31:44):
Tonight, we're debuting the Lifestyle Edit, brought to you by
Melia Hotels International or chatting Travel with Intention, the global
shift from transactional travel to transformational living, How modern travelers
are demanding meaning, trust and cultural immersion, and why global
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hospitality is evolving from selling stays to shaping identity driven experiences.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
So let me set the stage for you. According to Edelman,
eighty five percent of consumers say that trust determines whether
they buy from a brand, but global trust continues to decline,
and that matters when we're talking about travel. When you're
not just buying a product, you're buying time, safety, and memories.
And today's guest is helping shape that narrative. Joining me
(32:33):
is Susanna Mander, Global Director of Brand Expansion at Melia
Hotels International. Susanna began her career in Italy in sales
and marketing before joining Milia nearly two decades ago from
Miami to the company's headquarters in MAJORCA. She's led brand creation, repositioning,
and global storytelling across multiple luxury portfolios. Today she oversees
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global brand expansion, ensuring every new hotel and branded resid
is rooted its strong identity, emotional resonance, and long term
brand value. And of course, she believes hospitality is not
just infrastructure, it's storytelling.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Susanna, Welcome to the show, Superstar.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 14 (33:13):
Sanna, there was an introduction, my goodnessa thank you so much.
I've done a few things. Yes, I've been traveling around
the world. Here I am a pleasure to say hi
to everyone and listening.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
Thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
So, Susanna, we're living in what Deloitte describes as a
hyper saturated brand economy, and consumers are exposed to thousands
of messages daily.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
So in that kind of environment, attention is fragile and.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
Loyalty is earned.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
How has this era of digital overload reshaped what travelers
emotionally expect from a hospitality brand.
Speaker 14 (33:52):
Well, Shanna, that's an absolutely right. I think that today
travelers are actually more emotionally, not less, because we live
in a world where we see hundreds of destinations every
day on our phones, so the bar is always going
higher and higher. People they just don't want beauty only anymore.
They want meaning. As you said, digital saturation has created
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two big sifts in travel. First, people arrive with a
very clear expectation because they already imagine the experience. But second,
they also create something real, something that surprises them beyond
what they online. So that's another extra challenge for hospitality brands.
Is no longer enough to look good. You have to
feel authentic. You have to deliver moments that feel human,
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personal and emotionally memorable in a.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
Certain way, Shan.
Speaker 14 (34:42):
Digital has made travelers much more demanding but also more
open to deeper experiences.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
Yeah, and what you just said is so true.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
That's an important distinction because visibility is easy, like you said,
they're scrolling on their phones, but emotional resonance is rare.
And relevance is what turns on a one time guest
into a lifelong advocate, so to speak, right absolutely now.
Booking dot Com recently reported that seventy six percent of
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global travelers want to travel more sustainably, yet many admit
they don't know how to make meaningful choices. There's desire,
but there's also confusion, Susannah, So, yes, how does Melia
expand globally while protecting authenticity and ensuring its values are
operational not just aspirational.
Speaker 14 (35:30):
Well, that's a very, very big challenge, and this is
something we talk about constant fiction because growth without clarity
is very dangerous.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
For us.
Speaker 14 (35:41):
Expansion is not just opening hotels. It's about choosing the
right projects and the right partners, because if the vision
is not shared, the brand will eventually lose its identity.
We focus a lot on alignment, alignment of values of
culture and long term thinking. Sometimes that means say no,
even if the opportunity could look attractive on paper. So
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we have to choose. But we also believe that a
strong brand shall not be rigid. It's very clear in
the essence, but flexible in how it expresses itself locally
in the destination. So growth actually becomes a way to
enrich the brand, not to dilute it. Each new destination
brings new energy, new culture, new inspiration to guests. The
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key is protecting the core while allowing that diversity to live.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Yeah, and what you're saying makes a lot of sense
because that's the difference between marketing sustainability and living it right.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
Modern travelers are incredibly perceptive.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
They reward alignment, not slogans. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Now, one of the biggest frustrations I hear is I
stayed somewhere beautiful, but I never felt the destination.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
So that's a disconnect.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Can you explain the destination inclusive concept and how it
transforms our hotel stay into genuine cultural immersion.
Speaker 14 (37:01):
If you go somewhere and never truly connect with the destination,
you miss the most powerful part of the journey. Obviously, Traditionally,
if you will remember all inclusive resorts that created a
beautiful but closed world for guests. We wanted to open
that word, so we designed created experiences outside the resort.
We bring guests outside the resort in the destination with
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local guides, artisans, chefs, in natural environments and community. It
could be a cultural worshop and masterclass in creating an
organic candle in Mexico and natural experience, or something very
intimate personal. Suddenly the ship becomes more emotional and guests
just don't relax. They discover interesting. This has been also
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very powerful for families because children are naturally curious when
they engaged with local culture or nature, the tree becomes
a share memory, not justification. As you said at the beginning.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Now, if someone listening right now feels overwhelmed scrolling through
destinations influenced by esthetics, but craving depth, they're not just
looking for a trip, they're looking for alignment. But it's
traveling with intention truly means to Zana And how can
someone identify a brand that offers transformation not just accommodation.
Speaker 14 (38:18):
Well, the travel with intention also means understanding that going
somewhere needs to transform you. You want to come back
different from a trip. You want to come back and
reach You want to come back definitely with memories, but
you want to come back with something new that you
have learned, some experiences that will make you will make
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you feel much deeper on this vacation, on this holiday,
you know memory. So what we have done, and especially
in some of the brands that are very much connected
to the destination, to the culture. We're talking about also
the Xelotel Inputana with the Zel brand or with Rafa
Nadala connecting with the destination through community activities, but also
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for example, the Melia collection which has where we restore
old buildings and try to give that experience, that storytelling behind.
So as you set up very beginning, travel and product
is just not a description, but it's something that has
to change the way you feel and has to change
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the way you come back. It's a shift in experience
and it's an emotional shift.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
That's beautifully said Susannah.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Travel really becomes transformational when it reflects your values, not
just your vacation. Correct and this conversation fit perfectly and
captured why the lifestyle at it exists. Thank you so
much for joining us today. It was so refreshing chatting
with you, and I'm more excited about where Melia is
headed and everything that's to come.
Speaker 12 (39:53):
Thank thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
To explore Melia Hotels International and experience hospitality designed for transformation,
you can visit Melia dot com and follow them on
the gram at Milia dot Hotels dot International. You can
also check out the Zel brand at Zell Hotels and
you can also head to at Powroducers by Milia and
to check out more of Susanna.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
She has a great page. She is a world traveler
and she walks what she talks. Check out Susanna Mander.
We'll be right back after this.
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You're listening to a Moment of Zen right here on
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This is the we Plate Forward series brought to you
by we Playateforward Foundation dot Org, and today's headliner is
Beyond the Diagnoses, How two parents engineered momentum in the
fight against childhood dementia. San Filipo syndrome, often called childhood dementia,
is a rare, progressive neurological disorder, affecting approximately one in
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seventy thousand births worldwide. There's no approved cure. Most families
are told to wait. But Megan and Kyle, they didn't wait.
Parents to Poppy and Oliver, both living with San Filippo
syndrome type B, They've transformed urgency into action, mobilizing community,
advancing expanded access pathways, and building strategic momentum in the
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rare disease space. Megan and Kyle, Welcome to the SHO
Show Superstars.
Speaker 20 (42:01):
Thank you for having us because that is that's been
our greatest tool. It's being able to share this story.
So this means a lot for our family. Okay, so
let's dive in.
Speaker 5 (42:09):
Now.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Let's talk about the diagnosis and that emotional turning point.
Speaker 5 (42:12):
So, Megan, let's start with you.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
So San Filipo is often misdiagnosed early because symptoms can
resemble autism or ADHD. When did you first realize something
wasn't adding up with Poppy and Oliver? And what was
that emotional shift from devastation to determination, if you will.
Speaker 20 (42:33):
So with Penelope, it was what I would say, kind
of a typical diagnosis odyssey for these kids. She was
relatively typical until about age three three and a half
is when we started to begin noticing things with her.
But it was nothing super concrete. We were just kind
of feeling like something was off. We started noticing we
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say regressions, but I hesitate to even call it that,
because it was more cyclical feeling. She would master skills
or gain skills, and then we would start to lose
them again and she could regain them. We kind of
would go through the cycle, which isn't That's really a
hard thing to pin down. It didn't point us to
any kind of specific diagnosis, and so we just started
(43:18):
pursuing other answers. We did therapies, looked at evaluations. She
was eventually, at the age of about six, diagnosed with
mild intellectual disability and ADHD, and then the following year
she did receive an autism diagnosis. So we did finally
get those diagnosis, those diagnoses, but it wasn't until we
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did a full genome sequencing that we found out it
was sanfleepa syndrome, and that was just a few months
before she turned nine, so it took a long time
to get to that answer, and it definitely was not
clear to us until we did that testing. Obviously, it
was devastating, but we had been looking for so long
for answers that there was a sense of relief to
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finally know what we were dealing with. Since it was genetic,
we obviously immediately tested our sign He still shows no
outward signs of having the disease, but we know now
that he has it.
Speaker 5 (44:12):
Oh, and.
Speaker 20 (44:14):
I think we were just able to really hit the
ground running because we had been looking for answers for
so long. So it is devastating, but we know that
time is not on our side. We did not have
time to wait. We needed to immediately turn that into action, and.
Speaker 5 (44:29):
That you did.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
And for those listening for context, San Filipo medically MPs three.
It's an autosomal recessive lysosomal storage disorder. So that basically
means that both parents unknowingly carry one mutated gene and
when a child inherits two copies, the body can't properly
break down. Hepaphensulfate, which is a complex sugar molecule and
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it accumulates, particularly in the brain, leading to progressive neurodegeneration.
Speaker 5 (44:56):
So the diagnosis often does take years.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
We've been covering this on our show with the experts
and tons of families for the last three years, and
then neurodegenerative disease time is critical, I mean without a doubt.
So you know it's a hard conversation. So what strikes
me is how this disease hides in plain sight.
Speaker 5 (45:17):
Right.
Speaker 4 (45:17):
Children are often born appearing typical, and then regression begins,
like you said, between ages.
Speaker 5 (45:23):
Two and six.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
That delay in clarity is not just emotional, I mean
it's biological, and every month matters. So let's talk about
the daily reality of caregiving. What does daily life look
like right now in your home? What do people not
see when they follow your story online. We say it's
a lot of caregiving and constant vigilance.
Speaker 20 (45:41):
And we're in kind of a unique situation with having
both children with the disease, but one presenting very significantly
and the other not. So we have a nine year
old who is big and strong and loud like a
nine year old, but operates more like a one or
two year old, and then we have an actual two
year old who is discovering lots of independence and opinion.
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And you know, we just we love both of these kids.
Their absolute joy. We have a joyful home. Every day
is fun for us. We try to make sure every
day is still fun for these kids and that we're
trying to learn. And we have lots of therapy appointments,
We see lots. We've got a big team of people
that help these kids, you know, try to keep moving forward.
Speaker 12 (46:27):
But Poppy is.
Speaker 5 (46:29):
She requires constant supervision.
Speaker 20 (46:31):
She is at a point where she's almost we almost
consider her like a danger to herself or other. She
has no awareness of danger and her impulse control is
virtually gone. So we're trying to, you know, keep her
as active and learning as much as possible, but also
kind of keep her in an invisible bubble.
Speaker 12 (46:53):
Oliver is doing really well.
Speaker 20 (46:56):
He you know, people talk about special siblings, siblings who
understand they have a sibling with special needs and learn
how to kind of operate around that, and he's really
learning to do that. He's kind of taking the lead relationally,
even as a two year old. He will tell her
good night or come give her a hug or a kiss,
and I think the hardest part for us is knowing
that he doesn't know he's looking into his own future.
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And Poppy, you know, the version of Poppy we know
now is not the version she's always been. She has
not always been a special needs kid. And so having
checks the position of one kid who's really in the
midst of it and one kid who doesn't know what's
coming is it's a hard reality to live in day
to day, and I think that's.
Speaker 12 (47:37):
Part of what keeps us working hard to change it.
Speaker 3 (47:40):
That's a heavy, heavy load to carry. You have to
always you know, and you have each other. So that's foundational.
I mean, you know, the two of you are navigating
this together and engineering momentum and expanded access is really
at the heart of this conversation. So, Kyle, in the
last eight months, your community fund and push forward an
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expanded access program sometimes called compassionate use, allowing access to
investigational treatment outside of traditional trials. What did it actually
take to make that happen?
Speaker 17 (48:14):
Well, yeah, I start doing a bunch of research, sending
emails to all these doctors where I saw that the
pathway had been going but then stopped. By the time
we got in touch with an industry partner that was
willing to entertain this idea on a well established treatment.
It was tough and the conversations took a long time,
and they don't know me and I don't know them.
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So we're kind of doing this dance of like, okay,
we're talking about raising or funding millions of dollars. Is
that just all talk or is this something that's going
to happen. And once they gave us to go ahead,
we kind of had to push a little bit, not
only on the industry side, but on the foundational and
family side to just kind of get the word out.
Once we kind of released the announcement that hey, we
had found something, there's an opportunity here, family started reaching out,
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and then we just kind of took the families that
were reaching out, started creating a family only group. Family
to family. We understood the journey and we needed to
be able to talk to each other clearly about what's
going on, knowing what we work with as parents every day.
So we built a story together. We started meeting regularly,
gathered so much momentum and so many people had such
big communities that we raised it all in that in
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that five weeks in addition too, in addition to assistance
from a foundation as well that saw that momentum was
willing to contribute alongside.
Speaker 5 (49:26):
Us, and how much did you raise?
Speaker 17 (49:29):
So we as the families raised four point three million
dollars in just over five weeks. And then the foundation
Cure San Flip Foundation, who you've met with on the
show before.
Speaker 5 (49:39):
They lean in Cara Superstars.
Speaker 17 (49:41):
Yep, they contributed one point two million to honor that
effort and to push the the expanded access program straight
to the biotech that has it.
Speaker 5 (49:49):
So I love this conversation. It's warming my heart.
Speaker 3 (49:53):
So, Meg, you've been incredibly public and vulnerable, which I
think has been the reason why this is gone viral
in sharing your family's story. How intentional was that and
how critical has narrative, if you will, been in unlocking
the support that you have.
Speaker 20 (50:09):
You know, we receive this diagnosis and we're told that
there was nothing we could do, and so then after
some investigation, we discovered that we felt like there were
things that we were going to be able to do
and that actually funding was probably our biggest hurdle. And
as soon as we knew that, we pivoted to knowing
that the best way we could actually protect our children
was to put their story out there. And I think
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being vulnerable, I mean, it's still very hard. It is
very uncomfortable for us to put our story out there,
and being vulnerable, I think is critical, which makes it
even harder. But I think that's what makes it matter
to people, is that they need to understand that we're
just real people too, and this is a real struggle
and that we're we're going to be stronger together as
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a community. And you know, we're trying desperately to financewers
for our children, but we know that there are more
children there too, and we feel responsible to tell this
story to try to get answers for our children and
for other children like them. We want to bring other
families hope. We don't want any other families to be
told this is your diagnosis and just enjoy the time
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you have left, because that's just devastating as a parent.
So it's been very intentional and I think it's been hard,
but I think that's probably why it's been powerful.
Speaker 3 (51:23):
Yeah, and you're writing your own narrative. You're not part
of someone else's right, because if you are part of
somebody else's narrative. Then you don't get to be in
the position of power. But Kyle and you're giving both
of you you turn this into really a whole ecosystem
of weaving together the perfect people within the right families
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to blend the right power, support funding to get this
over the hill.
Speaker 5 (51:49):
I'm extremely hopeful.
Speaker 4 (51:50):
Well, we're at the end of our date, my friends.
What an extraordinary conversation.
Speaker 5 (51:54):
So thank you, thank you.
Speaker 17 (51:56):
We're just glad to be here.
Speaker 5 (51:57):
Yeah, that was Kyle and Meg in Kement.
Speaker 3 (52:00):
You could go directly to Curepoppyandoliver dot com. You can
also check them out on the gram at Poppy and
Oliver kemp that's k e MPF the last name. And
to support our partners of this series and the continued
advancement of awareness and research for san filipofamilies, you can
go directly to Replate Forward Foundation dot org, benefiting the
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Curisan Filippo Foundation.
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from selling stays to shaping identity driven experiences. In the
Elevating Experiences series, brought to you by MTK Group and Y,
we're joined by Alex Payne, Pam Orge and Jessfield.
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Co founders of Points Talk Squad. The headliner is luxury
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Welcome back, Beautiful New York, Tri State Area and beyond.
You're listening to a moment of Zen right here on
seven ten WR, the voice of New York iHeartRadio. I'm
your host, Zenzam's welcome back to the Elevating Experiences segment,
brought to you by MTK, New York. A recent Deloitte
travel report shows that more than half of Americans say
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travel is a top priority, yet cost remains the number
one barrier.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Translation.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Families want the memories, they just don't think they can
afford them.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
So today's headliner is luxury travel isn't for the wealthy,
It's for the strategic.
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We're talking about how three women are rewriting the rules
of family travel using.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Points and miles.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Joining me right now are the co founders of Points
Talk Squad. Alex Payne, mom of four boys and full
time memory maker, Jess Field, former lawyer who left a
lot to teach.
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Families how to travel smarter.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
And Pam Ornge, retired nurse, former extreme couponer, grandma of
twenty one.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Welcome to the show, ladies.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Thank you, So I'm going to start with you, PEM.
You went from extreme couponding to booking business class flights
and for years saving money meant clipping and stacking discounts.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
What clicked for.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
You when you realized points and miles could like literally
upperform traditional frugality.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
You know, I just had always a super passion for traveling.
I would keep on every single week, and what whatever
I saved would go in a little ledger, and that
was my travel money. I was doing the slow slow burn.
So I had heard about people who were using points
and miles for travel, but it was way out there.
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And all of a sudden, Alex came to me one
day and she had a friend who had been doing
this and talk to me about it. You got to
be kidding me. That completely changed everything for me. I
wasn't doing the slow burn. I was doing the fast burn.
I started traveling all over when I was cup hunting
and saving some money, I was on those economy seats,
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I was staying in moderate hotels. I got into points
and miles, and hey, I don't travel international unless it's
in a business lay flat seat. I am a very
boogie traveler. Now I like the good life and this
is just open up the world to things I thought
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I could never be able to do.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Wow, you're blowing my mind. I'm doing I'm definitely doing
something wrong.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
But what I love about this is that it reframes wealth.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Right, It's not income, it's information and studies, studies do
show billions of dollars in credit card rewards go unused
every single year, and that's.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
Not because people don't qualify. It's because people don't understand
the system. And well, you decided to learn it, So
kudos to you.
Speaker 7 (06:27):
Thanks.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
So Alex, you're a mom before boys.
Speaker 8 (06:30):
You got sports schedules, you got school breaks, you got chaos. Yeah,
so strategic travel sounds glamorous, but what does it look
like in real life when you're juggling tournaments and limited pto?
Speaker 5 (06:43):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 9 (06:43):
It is getting out those schedules, getting out the sports schedule,
getting in the school schedule, of matching those up and
figure out where is some time where we don't have
something going on. And you really have to take advantage
of those opportunities because parents with multiple kids in school
and sports, you know how difficult it is to find
time where you don't have something going on. And that's
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the key thing is looking ahead. What we see a
lot is even my husband was telling me the other day.
Someone at work was like, Hey, I'm thinking of going
to Costa Rica for spring break. Spring break is like
for some people next months. I mean there's times I'm
planning trips nine to twelve months in advance so that
I get the exact trip that I want, because that's
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what's going to happen. Is you're gonna think, Hey, we're
gonna go to Coast Rica for spring break, but spoiler,
you're maybe not because at the time you go to
use your points to book your hotels day, it's already
long gone. So booking ahead is crucial for busy families.
Speaker 10 (07:40):
I'm glad that you've made that distinction, because that's the
differentiator between paying full freight doing it last minute, and
planning ahead and playing and paying a fraction of the
cost for that same exact trip done strategically.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Suggest you're a.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Former lawyer, you understand fine print and risk mitigation. There's
fear narrative around credit cards, right, what are families misunderstanding
about rewards and how can they maybe use them responsibly
without falling into debt traps.
Speaker 11 (08:10):
I think a lot of people see our content and
they see, oh, they redeemed twenty five thousand points for
this flight, or they redeemed one hundred thousand points for
this luxury resort stay. And they think, oh, that means
I have to spend twenty five thousand dollars on my
credit card, or I have to spend one hundred thousand
dollars on my credit card. That's not possible for my family.
And that is not the case at all. Everything we
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teach is about using credit cards for your everyday expenses
and earning those big welcome offers.
Speaker 12 (08:41):
On the credit cards.
Speaker 11 (08:42):
That's how we accumulate the vast majority of our points
and miles that translate into nearly free travel. And so
the key is shifting your spend either not using a
debit card or cash and instead using your credit.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Card, or like Pam said, not just using one.
Speaker 11 (08:58):
Credit card, like there are so many who have their
Costco credit card and that they charge everything to their
Costco credit card, you know, which is which is fine,
But you're leaving a ton of points and miles and
free travel on the table and doing that. So it's
pretty much shifting the way you spend, putting it all
on a credit card, but then also treating that credit
card like a debit card, making sure that you can
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pay it off on time and in full every month.
Speaker 12 (09:22):
But especially with families.
Speaker 13 (09:23):
These expenses rack up so quickly, between the cost of
groceries and gas and dining out, and medical expenses and
needing new tires and just everyday life.
Speaker 12 (09:34):
People don't really like.
Speaker 11 (09:35):
The silver lining of all those expenses is getting a
free trip out of them.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Right.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
It's interesting because when you look at back to statistics. Right,
we're all about editatement on the show, but the Federal
Reserve consistently reports that revolving credit card debt is a
stressor for many households. But the key distinction is this
rewards only work if you're already spending responsibly. This isn't
about spending more, It's about spending smarter. Yes, So, Pam,
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you're a grandma to is this correct?
Speaker 5 (10:06):
Twenty one kids?
Speaker 14 (10:07):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (10:09):
Twenty one grandchildren and I have five children, God bless.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (10:16):
So how has points travel allowed you to create multi
generational memories that might not have been possible otherwise.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
Oh, it's been key. I'm sure that you know. If
I was just living on my retirement money, would we
be doing some you know, kids coming to my house,
some little tiny vacations. But instead I'm able to Like
last year, I took all of my children, all my
girls on a trip and covered it with points a mile.
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So we went to Alex and I went to Roatan.
I took a daughter to Saint Kids, another daughter. Oh,
we went to the Dominican Republic. I've done the same
with grandchildren. We take one of our we take two
or three of our grandchildren every summer on a trip
with us to Hawaii, and using points and miles has
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made that so much easier, so much less expensive, and
so points some miles has fieled these This is not
something I couldn't have planned, these multi generational trips at
all on my retirement from being a nurse.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
So, Alex, let's talk luxury.
Speaker 15 (11:25):
Yeah, what's one redemption you've booked flight or hotel that
would shock listeners to learn was mostly covered with points.
Speaker 9 (11:35):
Yeah, this is a really interesting timing that you asked
this question because I am headed to the Maldives here
very soon. This will be my second time visiting the Maldives,
and I think that's the thing that's really cool about
this is you think like, oh, there's these bucket lists
once in a lifetime trips and with points of miles,
nothing's once in a lifetime. You can repeat these once
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in a lifetime trips. So I my husband I went
to the Maldives in twenty twenty two. We flew late
flat business class seats. There we stayed in an overwater villa,
like total pinch me, how was this real? And I
used points for the late flat seats and the overwater
villa and we are leaving very soon to go repeat
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that trip. So I think that like even when I
I remember the first time I went, I was like,
oh my gosh, I can't believe I'm in this overwater
villa that I.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Didn't pay for.
Speaker 9 (12:28):
I need to go tell all my friends how to
do this, because it's really exciting when you realize what's possible.
And I think that's something that so many people have
on their bucket lists. But they think I'm never going
to be able to make that happen, or I'm gonna
have to save and do that when I'm retired, and
you know, say for years to make that kind of
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trip happen. But you can do it now, and you
can do it again and again. So that's the cute
one for me.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
It's just mind blowing.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
And this is where the myth explodes, because when people
hear business class or five star resort, they assume six
figure income, you know, But in reality, it's about understanding
transfer partners and welcome bonuses and timing.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
It's really just strategy. It's not status. So I'm going to.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Pivot to you, Jess. You left a legal career to
teach this full time.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
I did.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
What did you see in the marketplace that convinced you
that convinced you that this wasn't just a hobby, but
like truly a financial literacy gap families needed filled.
Speaker 11 (13:31):
Yeah, so I opened my very first travel rewards credit
card in twenty fifteen. And at that time, you know,
social media wasn't as big as it is now, and
all the blogs and everyone teaching points and miles were men,
and it was a lot of business men. It was
a lot of single men who were like, let me
show you.
Speaker 13 (13:49):
How to fly business class with my glasses champagne in
my hand.
Speaker 12 (13:53):
But I couldn't relate to that.
Speaker 11 (13:55):
I was a mom, and I was like, I can't
I need some one teaching me how to do this
that I can relate to. And the thing is, studies
have shown women make eighty percent or more of travel decisions.
It's the moms making travel decisions.
Speaker 12 (14:11):
It's the wives, it's the daughters.
Speaker 11 (14:13):
And so women need access to this information the same,
if not more than men do, and so I think
we all share that.
Speaker 12 (14:21):
That's why we started this is I was.
Speaker 11 (14:23):
Like, we need women and moms teaching other women and
moms how to do this because like women belong in
business class, families belong in business class, and like access
shouldn't just be reserved to these men that are having
this information handed to them, we need to teach it also.
And so there was a huge gap in you know,
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being able to relate to other women and moms teaching this.
Speaker 12 (14:47):
So we wanted to fill that gap.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
And this is where empowerment happens, because the barrier isn't income,
it's clarity.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
And so you guys have done a great job. I
love it so enriching. Thank you so much for joining us, ladies.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Thank you, thanks for having us, Thanks for having us on.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
If you want to learn more and you want to
hear more from Alex, Pam and Jess, you could visit
Points Talk Squad directly at pointstalksquad dot com.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
You could follow them on.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Instagram, YouTube, TikTok, and Facebook at Points Talk Squad, and
you could tune in to the Points Talk podcast for
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If I stayed area and beyond, You're listening to a
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Zam's Today's clean collective Conversation sits at the intersection of motherhood,
public health, and accountability, and it's one every parent needs
to hear. The hidden ingredients making our kids sick, from
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cafeterias to cosmetics. That's not a headline meant to alarm,
It's actually a reality check. Diet related illness is now
one of the fastest growing health crises facing American children.
Nearly one in five kiddos in the US is obese,
and more than thirty million children rely on school meals
every single day, meals that often prioritize cost and shelf
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life over nourishment. And when you zoom out, this isn't
just about food, It's about cumulative exposure. My guest today
is Noralatory, CEO and co founder of Eat Real. It's
a nonprofit on a mission to end diet related illness
in American's children by trans forming school food systems, raising awareness,
and driving policy change. Nora believes and I wholeheartedly agree
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that this crisis isn't about parental failure. It's about systemic
standards and the power we have to change them.
Speaker 5 (17:15):
Welcome to the show, Superstar.
Speaker 16 (17:16):
Thank you someone for having me and having this important conversation.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Yeah, excited to dive right in. I'm a mom, I
do my research.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
This is the expert on the microphone series, so I'm
excited to look under the hood. So we're seeing health
conditions in children that used to be considered.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Adult only problems.
Speaker 17 (17:34):
Right.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
And for many kids, school meals make up the majority
of their weak day nutrition, which is alarming. So from
where you sit, what is the most misunderstood truth about
how school food.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Is contributing to this growing childhood health crisis?
Speaker 5 (17:48):
And it's a real one.
Speaker 16 (17:49):
Children's life spans and health spans are at risk, like
we're at risk and in America, giving our kids shorter,
less healthy, and less happy life and food is the
biggest driver preventable ultra process food diseases and it's the
biggest solution. And within that, we believe that school food
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and improving school food is the big bet to reverse
these negative health trends and to help stop disease before
it starts and get our kids healthy from the beginning
and nourish their minds and bodies and their academic dreams
and their larger life dreams through the power of school food.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
School food is.
Speaker 16 (18:30):
A lifeline for families and for children. A lot of
our schools around the country serve kids school breakfast, school lunch,
and school supper. And so we actually just had the
Sacramento Kings players some of them come out and.
Speaker 12 (18:44):
Serve our kids school supper.
Speaker 16 (18:46):
So it is kids are depending on these meals for
their nourishment. So it's really critical that we get them healthy, delicious,
kid friendly approved food that they'll eat and enjoy so
that we can truly nourish our child And we think
that by improving the school food system that is how
we can best create health for the next generation in
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our country.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Yeah, and that's such an important distinction nour because parents
assume safeguards are in place when the reality is far
more complicated.
Speaker 16 (19:16):
Yeah, schools are the largest restaurant chain in America. They're
bigger than Subway, Starbucks, and McDonald's combined.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
So let's talk about that. Yeah, what's actually being served?
Speaker 3 (19:28):
So what ingredients, nour or practices even in school cafeterias
concern you the most and why.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Should parents be really be paying closer attention?
Speaker 12 (19:37):
Yeah, in general in.
Speaker 16 (19:38):
Schools, but in our total food system, sixty seven percent
of kids calories are ultra process calories and so we've
really only recently started to move to this ultra processed
food environment, and it's a failed experiment. It's not working
for our kids, and it's not working for our bodies.
It's creating disease. One of the biggest concerns is just
how much sugar, particularly is hidden in in food and
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in kids food. There are over two hundred and fifty
names for sugar, so it's sneaky, it's ubiquitous, it's everywhere.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
And kids drink.
Speaker 12 (20:10):
A bathtub of added sugar a year, just drink.
Speaker 16 (20:15):
And this is like kids used to eat more like
four pounds of sugar per year and now they're eating
more over drinking over sixty five pounds of sugar. And
so one of the biggest sneaky things is just how
much sugar is hidden throughout breakfasts and lunch and in.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
It's in everything.
Speaker 16 (20:34):
Fruit is game on, fruit is totally fine, but not juiced.
Speaker 12 (20:38):
Or added sugar in products.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
And parents are often told to just make better choices,
but kids spend most of their day outside the home.
Even families who prioritize clean living can't fully control what's
served at school. So how do you help parents move
from guilt to empowerment? When so much of this is systemic.
Speaker 16 (20:58):
Yeah, parents voices really really matter and they can make
change in their local food systems, and so that can
look like getting involved in the school. And I know
parents are super busy and that's really really hard. But
we have a on our website etreil dot org slash parents.
We have a simple email like you can just do
it on your phone. Go to etail dot org slash parents,
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take the email and then find you're a nutrition director,
your food sure restrictor and send them an email that says,
you know, first of all, thank you. Hey, I heard
about eat Real on the radio and I.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Want to introduce to you.
Speaker 16 (21:30):
Can I tell you about this really cool supportive resource.
And then it's about making the introduction of our nonprofit
to your local school. And we've had parents around the
country do that. We had a mom, lyn Choi, who
did it, and she got her a school in eat
Reel's program, in our nonprofits program to help upgrade the
school food menu and certify the school district eat Real
certified so that we could help upgrade the food and
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she did it within twelve hours.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Why so, mom, a mom's on a mission make things
happen that's committed. That's real investment, and I appreciate that
so much because you know, when you look at the
parents feeling guilty or shame, shame doesn't drive change, but
information and.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
Access absolutely do.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
I want to talk about even more empowerment and stepping
outside of just the box of what we're eating. Right,
It's because what we're putting on and around our body
also matters. And this segment is the clean collective series
brought to you by Crunchy, And I'm going to emphasize
this because this is where my world's collide as a
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like food, I'm incredibly intentional about what goes on our bodies. Right,
our skin is the biggest organ That's why Crunchy is
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higher standards. Back to that raising the bar that you
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just mentioned, So from your perspective, how do daily exposures, food, personal.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Care, environment compound over time?
Speaker 3 (23:01):
All of this, How does all of this affect our
children's health long term?
Speaker 16 (23:07):
We can really think about how do we give our
kids the knowledge and teach them because little little kids,
when they learn about how added sugar can shrink brain
size and how added sugar maybe that's why they have
the tummy ache that they have. When they start to learn,
they start to make decisions and they start.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
To really influence.
Speaker 16 (23:26):
I have my kids lossing near around about real food
and moving us towards real food now, and so I
think it's like teach the kids, and they also teach
the parents and they engage the family too, And so
how do we teach our kids how do they feel
really good and limit exposures themselves?
Speaker 14 (23:43):
Right?
Speaker 16 (23:43):
Even for example, I was just talking to my daughter
about polyester clothing and how do we why like some
of them more natural fibers in her sheets, in her clothing,
help her skin breathe, and don't put any microplastics in
her body. And so I think teaching them about that,
or when it comes to cosmetics, I personally love Crunchy
and love Kelly, and I trust it and I put
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on my body. So one day I'll be sharing that
with my daughter of why clean beauty really matters and
how I want her to feel and to feel her
best and to glow, but to do it in a
way that doesn't come with a side of toxic ingredients
or negative exposure for her. So I think there's a
way that we can keep it really positive and be
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teaching our kids and we don't have to carry it
all as parents when we explain the why to them
and how it's really about giving their bodies the support
to grow in a healthy way without sides of cancer
or obesogens, et cetera, that they can really develop in
a way that helps them glow for a long time.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Yeah, this conversation is exactly why the Clean Collective series
exists to really empower families with information and transparency and
standards that they can actually trust. So I thank you
so much for joining us today.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
Thank you so much to continue to follow Norish.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
You can find her in one of three ways. You
can follow her directly on Instagram at nourishtw Nora, you
could go to eatreel dot org, and you can also
check eat Reel out on the gram at eat Real Certified.
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We'll be right back after this.
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Zen Sam's. Today we're diving into another edition of Lifted
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The era of one and done treatments is fading very fast.
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Patients today are far more educated, more results driven, and
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centered care. My guest is Angelina Bondarenko, founder of Esthetic Touch.
She's a registered nurse, cosmetic injector, and medical esthetician who
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ons like CO two lift pro can dramatically impact outcomes,
and what patients should actually be thinking about after they
leave that treatment room.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Welcome to the show, superstar.
Speaker 7 (27:11):
Thank you so much for inentation. I'm very excited to
be here today.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Okay, so let's dive right in.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
So, Angelina, we're seeing more data and more real world
clinical experience showing that skin responds best when treatments are
layered intentionally right rather than performed in isolation, if you will.
So instead of chasing aggressive, single procedures, providers are now
focusing on synergy, inflammation control, barrier repair, and that cellular
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signaling all working together.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
Why are combo therapies becoming the new.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Norm anesthetic medicine rather than that standalone treatment.
Speaker 7 (27:48):
Faces and bodies They don't change in the one dimension,
so no single treatment or modality can fix everything. That's
the reason why combinational treatment are becoming the most popular
at this moment and as a news standard to aesthetic treatments.
They are increasing the results, they work better together, and
(28:10):
they simply make overall experience the best.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
That makes so much sense.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
It's it's less about shocking the skin and more about
working with its biology, right, which ultimately leads to better
healing and longer lasting results. Now, when you talk about
post procedure add ons, right, so let's talk about that
COEO two lift positioning, right. So the recovery windows when
the skin is most receptive to oxygenation and hydration and
(28:37):
repair signaling, but it's often underutilized. So what types of
procedures benefit most from a strategic post procedure add on
and what differences do patients notice when treatments like CEO
two lift pro are in fact incorporated into that recovery process.
Speaker 18 (28:53):
All the recovery process is about as about healing as
about make the skin so thing calm in and make
the whole experience positive with the faster recovery. What I
noticed whether the C two live pro as my recent
and one of my favorite on at this moment, it's
(29:15):
literally within thirty to forty five minutes came down the
redness inflamed and irritated skin. And also the very important
part what I notice, because I'm not just looking at
the clinical point how skin reacts, also is looking for
the client perception of the treatment itself. And what I
(29:38):
noticed is that important that clients are becoming more calm there.
I think it's just something going on with the also
nerve receptors. They are feeling pompered and which is make
the entire treatment more positive. Also, the clients can go
with their skin care protocol with a pack of three
sessions and make their entire if we're talking about fractional
(30:01):
laser surfacing within like less than five minutes, their recollery process,
it's much easier and much faster. So that's an incredible part.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Yeah, and that recovery piece is everything, because when patients
see less redness and faster bounce back and better texture,
it completely changes how they perceive the entire treatment experience.
Like you said, so I think you're spot on for that. So, Angelina,
I mean, this has been such an insightful conversation. I
want to thank you for breaking down the science and
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the strategy and the intention behind truly effective aesthetic care.
Thank you so much for joining us today.
Speaker 7 (30:36):
Thank you so much for indentation.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
To learn more about Angelina and her work, you could
go to Aesthetic Touch, you could visit at Skin Wellness
dot com, and you could follow her on the gram
at Esthetic Underscore Touch Underscore NYC. And of course you
can learn more about cotwol Lift pro and how it's
being used by top providers nationwide by visiting Co two
lift dot com.
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You're listening to a moment of Zen right here on
seven to ten WR, the voice of New York iHeartRadio.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
I'm your host, Zenzams.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Tonight, we're debuting the Lifestyle Edit, brought to you by
Melia Hotels International or chatting Travel with Intention, the global
shift from transactional travel to transformational living, How modern travelers
are demanding meaning, trust and cultural immersion, and why global
(32:04):
hospitality is evolving from selling stays to shaping identity driven experiences.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
So let me set the stage for you. According to Edelman,
eighty five percent of consumers say that trust determines whether
they buy from a brand, but global trust continues to decline,
and that matters when we're talking about travel. When you're
not just buying a product, you're buying time, safety, and memories.
And today's guest is helping shape that narrative. Joining me
(32:33):
is Susanna Mander, Global Director of Brand Expansion at Melia
Hotels International. Susanna began her career in Italy in sales
and marketing before joining Milia nearly two decades ago from
Miami to the company's headquarters in MAJORCA. She's led brand creation, repositioning,
and global storytelling across multiple luxury portfolios. Today she oversees
(32:56):
global brand expansion, ensuring every new hotel and branded resid
is rooted its strong identity, emotional resonance, and long term
brand value. And of course, she believes hospitality is not
just infrastructure, it's storytelling.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Susanna, Welcome to the show, Superstar.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 14 (33:13):
Sanna, there was an introduction, my goodnessa thank you so much.
I've done a few things. Yes, I've been traveling around
the world. Here I am a pleasure to say hi
to everyone and listening.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
Thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
So, Susanna, we're living in what Deloitte describes as a
hyper saturated brand economy, and consumers are exposed to thousands
of messages daily.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
So in that kind of environment, attention is fragile and.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
Loyalty is earned.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
How has this era of digital overload reshaped what travelers
emotionally expect from a hospitality brand.
Speaker 14 (33:52):
Well, Shanna, that's an absolutely right. I think that today
travelers are actually more emotionally, not less, because we live
in a world where we see hundreds of destinations every
day on our phones, so the bar is always going
higher and higher. People they just don't want beauty only anymore.
They want meaning. As you said, digital saturation has created
(34:14):
two big sifts in travel. First, people arrive with a
very clear expectation because they already imagine the experience. But second,
they also create something real, something that surprises them beyond
what they online. So that's another extra challenge for hospitality brands.
Is no longer enough to look good. You have to
feel authentic. You have to deliver moments that feel human,
(34:37):
personal and emotionally memorable in a.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
Certain way, Shan.
Speaker 14 (34:42):
Digital has made travelers much more demanding but also more
open to deeper experiences.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
Yeah, and what you just said is so true.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
That's an important distinction because visibility is easy, like you said,
they're scrolling on their phones, but emotional resonance is rare.
And relevance is what turns on a one time guest
into a lifelong advocate, so to speak, right absolutely now.
Booking dot Com recently reported that seventy six percent of
(35:10):
global travelers want to travel more sustainably, yet many admit
they don't know how to make meaningful choices. There's desire,
but there's also confusion, Susannah, So, yes, how does Melia
expand globally while protecting authenticity and ensuring its values are
operational not just aspirational.
Speaker 14 (35:30):
Well, that's a very, very big challenge, and this is
something we talk about constant fiction because growth without clarity
is very dangerous.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
For us.
Speaker 14 (35:41):
Expansion is not just opening hotels. It's about choosing the
right projects and the right partners, because if the vision
is not shared, the brand will eventually lose its identity.
We focus a lot on alignment, alignment of values of
culture and long term thinking. Sometimes that means say no,
even if the opportunity could look attractive on paper. So
(36:03):
we have to choose. But we also believe that a
strong brand shall not be rigid. It's very clear in
the essence, but flexible in how it expresses itself locally
in the destination. So growth actually becomes a way to
enrich the brand, not to dilute it. Each new destination
brings new energy, new culture, new inspiration to guests. The
(36:26):
key is protecting the core while allowing that diversity to live.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Yeah, and what you're saying makes a lot of sense
because that's the difference between marketing sustainability and living it right.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
Modern travelers are incredibly perceptive.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
They reward alignment, not slogans. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
Now, one of the biggest frustrations I hear is I
stayed somewhere beautiful, but I never felt the destination.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
So that's a disconnect.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Can you explain the destination inclusive concept and how it
transforms our hotel stay into genuine cultural immersion.
Speaker 14 (37:01):
If you go somewhere and never truly connect with the destination,
you miss the most powerful part of the journey. Obviously, Traditionally,
if you will remember all inclusive resorts that created a
beautiful but closed world for guests. We wanted to open
that word, so we designed created experiences outside the resort.
We bring guests outside the resort in the destination with
(37:24):
local guides, artisans, chefs, in natural environments and community. It
could be a cultural worshop and masterclass in creating an
organic candle in Mexico and natural experience, or something very
intimate personal. Suddenly the ship becomes more emotional and guests
just don't relax. They discover interesting. This has been also
(37:46):
very powerful for families because children are naturally curious when
they engaged with local culture or nature, the tree becomes
a share memory, not justification. As you said at the beginning.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Now, if someone listening right now feels overwhelmed scrolling through
destinations influenced by esthetics, but craving depth, they're not just
looking for a trip, they're looking for alignment. But it's
traveling with intention truly means to Zana And how can
someone identify a brand that offers transformation not just accommodation.
Speaker 14 (38:18):
Well, the travel with intention also means understanding that going
somewhere needs to transform you. You want to come back
different from a trip. You want to come back and
reach You want to come back definitely with memories, but
you want to come back with something new that you
have learned, some experiences that will make you will make
(38:40):
you feel much deeper on this vacation, on this holiday,
you know memory. So what we have done, and especially
in some of the brands that are very much connected
to the destination, to the culture. We're talking about also
the Xelotel Inputana with the Zel brand or with Rafa
Nadala connecting with the destination through community activities, but also
(39:03):
for example, the Melia collection which has where we restore
old buildings and try to give that experience, that storytelling behind.
So as you set up very beginning, travel and product
is just not a description, but it's something that has
to change the way you feel and has to change
(39:24):
the way you come back. It's a shift in experience
and it's an emotional shift.
Speaker 5 (39:31):
That's beautifully said Susannah.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Travel really becomes transformational when it reflects your values, not
just your vacation. Correct and this conversation fit perfectly and
captured why the lifestyle at it exists. Thank you so
much for joining us today. It was so refreshing chatting
with you, and I'm more excited about where Melia is
headed and everything that's to come.
Speaker 12 (39:53):
Thank thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
To explore Melia Hotels International and experience hospitality designed for transformation,
you can visit Melia dot com and follow them on
the gram at Milia dot Hotels dot International. You can
also check out the Zel brand at Zell Hotels and
you can also head to at Powroducers by Milia and
to check out more of Susanna.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
She has a great page. She is a world traveler
and she walks what she talks. Check out Susanna Mander.
We'll be right back after this.
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Welcome back, Beautiful New York, Tri State Area and beyond.
You're listening to a Moment of Zen right here on
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Speaker 5 (41:10):
I'm your host, Zen Sam's.
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This is the we Plate Forward series brought to you
by we Playateforward Foundation dot Org, and today's headliner is
Beyond the Diagnoses, How two parents engineered momentum in the
fight against childhood dementia. San Filipo syndrome, often called childhood dementia,
is a rare, progressive neurological disorder, affecting approximately one in
(41:35):
seventy thousand births worldwide. There's no approved cure. Most families
are told to wait. But Megan and Kyle, they didn't wait.
Parents to Poppy and Oliver, both living with San Filippo
syndrome type B, They've transformed urgency into action, mobilizing community,
advancing expanded access pathways, and building strategic momentum in the
(41:57):
rare disease space. Megan and Kyle, Welcome to the SHO
Show Superstars.
Speaker 20 (42:01):
Thank you for having us because that is that's been
our greatest tool. It's being able to share this story.
So this means a lot for our family. Okay, so
let's dive in.
Speaker 5 (42:09):
Now.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Let's talk about the diagnosis and that emotional turning point.
Speaker 5 (42:12):
So, Megan, let's start with you.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
So San Filipo is often misdiagnosed early because symptoms can
resemble autism or ADHD. When did you first realize something
wasn't adding up with Poppy and Oliver? And what was
that emotional shift from devastation to determination, if you will.
Speaker 20 (42:33):
So with Penelope, it was what I would say, kind
of a typical diagnosis odyssey for these kids. She was
relatively typical until about age three three and a half
is when we started to begin noticing things with her.
But it was nothing super concrete. We were just kind
of feeling like something was off. We started noticing we
(42:55):
say regressions, but I hesitate to even call it that,
because it was more cyclical feeling. She would master skills
or gain skills, and then we would start to lose
them again and she could regain them. We kind of
would go through the cycle, which isn't That's really a
hard thing to pin down. It didn't point us to
any kind of specific diagnosis, and so we just started
(43:18):
pursuing other answers. We did therapies, looked at evaluations. She
was eventually, at the age of about six, diagnosed with
mild intellectual disability and ADHD, and then the following year
she did receive an autism diagnosis. So we did finally
get those diagnosis, those diagnoses, but it wasn't until we
(43:39):
did a full genome sequencing that we found out it
was sanfleepa syndrome, and that was just a few months
before she turned nine, so it took a long time
to get to that answer, and it definitely was not
clear to us until we did that testing. Obviously, it
was devastating, but we had been looking for so long
for answers that there was a sense of relief to
(44:01):
finally know what we were dealing with. Since it was genetic,
we obviously immediately tested our sign He still shows no
outward signs of having the disease, but we know now
that he has it.
Speaker 5 (44:12):
Oh, and.
Speaker 20 (44:14):
I think we were just able to really hit the
ground running because we had been looking for answers for
so long. So it is devastating, but we know that
time is not on our side. We did not have
time to wait. We needed to immediately turn that into action, and.
Speaker 5 (44:29):
That you did.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
And for those listening for context, San Filipo medically MPs three.
It's an autosomal recessive lysosomal storage disorder. So that basically
means that both parents unknowingly carry one mutated gene and
when a child inherits two copies, the body can't properly
break down. Hepaphensulfate, which is a complex sugar molecule and
(44:52):
it accumulates, particularly in the brain, leading to progressive neurodegeneration.
Speaker 5 (44:56):
So the diagnosis often does take years.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
We've been covering this on our show with the experts
and tons of families for the last three years, and
then neurodegenerative disease time is critical, I mean without a doubt.
So you know it's a hard conversation. So what strikes
me is how this disease hides in plain sight.
Speaker 5 (45:17):
Right.
Speaker 4 (45:17):
Children are often born appearing typical, and then regression begins,
like you said, between ages.
Speaker 5 (45:23):
Two and six.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
That delay in clarity is not just emotional, I mean
it's biological, and every month matters. So let's talk about
the daily reality of caregiving. What does daily life look
like right now in your home? What do people not
see when they follow your story online. We say it's
a lot of caregiving and constant vigilance.
Speaker 20 (45:41):
And we're in kind of a unique situation with having
both children with the disease, but one presenting very significantly
and the other not. So we have a nine year
old who is big and strong and loud like a
nine year old, but operates more like a one or
two year old, and then we have an actual two
year old who is discovering lots of independence and opinion.
(46:05):
And you know, we just we love both of these kids.
Their absolute joy. We have a joyful home. Every day
is fun for us. We try to make sure every
day is still fun for these kids and that we're
trying to learn. And we have lots of therapy appointments,
We see lots. We've got a big team of people
that help these kids, you know, try to keep moving forward.
Speaker 12 (46:27):
But Poppy is.
Speaker 5 (46:29):
She requires constant supervision.
Speaker 20 (46:31):
She is at a point where she's almost we almost
consider her like a danger to herself or other. She
has no awareness of danger and her impulse control is
virtually gone. So we're trying to, you know, keep her
as active and learning as much as possible, but also
kind of keep her in an invisible bubble.
Speaker 12 (46:53):
Oliver is doing really well.
Speaker 20 (46:56):
He you know, people talk about special siblings, siblings who
understand they have a sibling with special needs and learn
how to kind of operate around that, and he's really
learning to do that. He's kind of taking the lead relationally,
even as a two year old. He will tell her
good night or come give her a hug or a kiss,
and I think the hardest part for us is knowing
that he doesn't know he's looking into his own future.
(47:18):
And Poppy, you know, the version of Poppy we know
now is not the version she's always been. She has
not always been a special needs kid. And so having
checks the position of one kid who's really in the
midst of it and one kid who doesn't know what's
coming is it's a hard reality to live in day
to day, and I think that's.
Speaker 12 (47:37):
Part of what keeps us working hard to change it.
Speaker 3 (47:40):
That's a heavy, heavy load to carry. You have to
always you know, and you have each other. So that's foundational.
I mean, you know, the two of you are navigating
this together and engineering momentum and expanded access is really
at the heart of this conversation. So, Kyle, in the
last eight months, your community fund and push forward an
(48:01):
expanded access program sometimes called compassionate use, allowing access to
investigational treatment outside of traditional trials. What did it actually
take to make that happen?
Speaker 17 (48:14):
Well, yeah, I start doing a bunch of research, sending
emails to all these doctors where I saw that the
pathway had been going but then stopped. By the time
we got in touch with an industry partner that was
willing to entertain this idea on a well established treatment.
It was tough and the conversations took a long time,
and they don't know me and I don't know them.
(48:35):
So we're kind of doing this dance of like, okay,
we're talking about raising or funding millions of dollars. Is
that just all talk or is this something that's going
to happen. And once they gave us to go ahead,
we kind of had to push a little bit, not
only on the industry side, but on the foundational and
family side to just kind of get the word out.
Once we kind of released the announcement that hey, we
had found something, there's an opportunity here, family started reaching out,
(48:58):
and then we just kind of took the families that
were reaching out, started creating a family only group. Family
to family. We understood the journey and we needed to
be able to talk to each other clearly about what's
going on, knowing what we work with as parents every day.
So we built a story together. We started meeting regularly,
gathered so much momentum and so many people had such
big communities that we raised it all in that in
(49:19):
that five weeks in addition too, in addition to assistance
from a foundation as well that saw that momentum was
willing to contribute alongside.
Speaker 5 (49:26):
Us, and how much did you raise?
Speaker 17 (49:29):
So we as the families raised four point three million
dollars in just over five weeks. And then the foundation
Cure San Flip Foundation, who you've met with on the
show before.
Speaker 5 (49:39):
They lean in Cara Superstars.
Speaker 17 (49:41):
Yep, they contributed one point two million to honor that
effort and to push the the expanded access program straight
to the biotech that has it.
Speaker 5 (49:49):
So I love this conversation. It's warming my heart.
Speaker 3 (49:53):
So, Meg, you've been incredibly public and vulnerable, which I
think has been the reason why this is gone viral
in sharing your family's story. How intentional was that and
how critical has narrative, if you will, been in unlocking
the support that you have.
Speaker 20 (50:09):
You know, we receive this diagnosis and we're told that
there was nothing we could do, and so then after
some investigation, we discovered that we felt like there were
things that we were going to be able to do
and that actually funding was probably our biggest hurdle. And
as soon as we knew that, we pivoted to knowing
that the best way we could actually protect our children
was to put their story out there. And I think
(50:31):
being vulnerable, I mean, it's still very hard. It is
very uncomfortable for us to put our story out there,
and being vulnerable, I think is critical, which makes it
even harder. But I think that's what makes it matter
to people, is that they need to understand that we're
just real people too, and this is a real struggle
and that we're we're going to be stronger together as
(50:53):
a community. And you know, we're trying desperately to financewers
for our children, but we know that there are more
children there too, and we feel responsible to tell this
story to try to get answers for our children and
for other children like them. We want to bring other
families hope. We don't want any other families to be
told this is your diagnosis and just enjoy the time
(51:14):
you have left, because that's just devastating as a parent.
So it's been very intentional and I think it's been hard,
but I think that's probably why it's been powerful.
Speaker 3 (51:23):
Yeah, and you're writing your own narrative. You're not part
of someone else's right, because if you are part of
somebody else's narrative. Then you don't get to be in
the position of power. But Kyle and you're giving both
of you you turn this into really a whole ecosystem
of weaving together the perfect people within the right families
(51:45):
to blend the right power, support funding to get this
over the hill.
Speaker 5 (51:49):
I'm extremely hopeful.
Speaker 4 (51:50):
Well, we're at the end of our date, my friends.
What an extraordinary conversation.
Speaker 5 (51:54):
So thank you, thank you.
Speaker 17 (51:56):
We're just glad to be here.
Speaker 5 (51:57):
Yeah, that was Kyle and Meg in Kement.
Speaker 3 (52:00):
You could go directly to Curepoppyandoliver dot com. You can
also check them out on the gram at Poppy and
Oliver kemp that's k e MPF the last name. And
to support our partners of this series and the continued
advancement of awareness and research for san filipofamilies, you can
go directly to Replate Forward Foundation dot org, benefiting the
(52:23):
Curisan Filippo Foundation.
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