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Welcome back, beautiful New York Tri State Area and beyond.
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I'm your host, Zen Zams. Welcome back to the Elevating
Experiences series, brought to you by MTK Group New York.
We're talking about one of the most stressful, competitive, and
vulnerable consumer experiences in New York City, renting an apartment.
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New York City's rental vacancy rate recently hit one point
four percent. Okay, that's the lowest level measured since the
nineteen sixty eight Housing and Vacancy Survey, which means renters
are moving fast, documents are flying, and trust has become
a premium commodity. And that's exactly where today's guest comes in.
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Gabe Einhorn is a young entrepreneur, commercial real estate finance professional,
co founder of Verified and founder of Praise Studio now
Verified Positions itself as an all in one identity vault
for housing, employment, and trust dependent transactions, designed to securely
store id income documents and personal information in one place,
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with the idea of being verified once and shared instantly.
Right Gabe, incredible platform.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
So timely, so needed. Welcome to the show, Superstar.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
Thanks for having me again.
Speaker 7 (04:41):
Always a pleasure to be here.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
So I want to talk about the marketplace problem, because
there is one. Renters are being asked to move fast,
prove everything, and hand over deeply personal financial documents, often
before they even know who they're really dealing with. So
what was the moment you realize that the ren process
was broken enough that it needed its own verification layer
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And how did that become verified?
Speaker 7 (05:06):
Yeah, it actually happened this past last summer with my brother.
We WoT going through a rental process in New York
City and we were being asked time after time after
time to send all of our sensitive information via email
to random brokers, random landlords, and we said, this can't
be normal to send this sensitive information just via email.
So we decided to create a more secure process for
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renters to store all that information in one secure place
and be able to send it across different applications, and
we saw that the other problem was actually verifying that
information was real, and brokers and landlords need to understand
that all that information they're getting is one hundred percent legit.
The person can actually afford that apartment is going to
pay them on a monthly basis, which, especially in a
city like New York, if you get the wrong tenant
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in the building, can basically destroy your whole NOI.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
And that's exactly what innovation should do, right, find the friction,
find the vulnerability, and build something that protects both sides
of the transaction.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
And that's what you did exactly.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Now I want to talk about how verified works.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
So on the verified and we're talking about the spelling
which has verified has a very unique way of being spelled.
It's vry fid. So on the verified side, what really
stands out is this idea of a secure, verified digital profile,
right almost like a renter's identity vault, where ID and
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income documents and personal information can live in one organized
place instead of being to your point, scattered across emails, PDFs,
texts and inboxes. So walk us through how verified works
from the renter side and from the landlord broker, even
property manager side for sure.
Speaker 7 (06:42):
So on the renter side, if somebody's looking to rent
an apartment, they would sign up, they make their own profile,
they upload all their documents, and then they can actually
verify themselves both their identity and their income. So identity
is a liveness scan of their face, matches it to
their ID and confirms that they are one hundred percent
who they say they are and they're not an imposter.
The second is the income veration, which verifies their last
twelve to eighteen months of their bank account inflows and outflows,
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insufficient funds, verifies their employment. So now they show up
to the apartment with all their documents ready and one
hundred percent verified. So that puts them at the top
of the application process where you might be dealing with
hundreds of other applicants trying to get an apartment. Like
you said, the vacancy rate in New York City is crazy.
There's not enough supply. People are begging to get apartments,
and you need to find some way to get a
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competitive edge in the process, and this is the exact
way to do that.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
That makes so much sense, Gabe, because the rental process
should not require people to keep resending their most sensitive
information over and over again.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
I think that's where there's the security breaches happen.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
And now let's talk about the fraud scams in the
New York City real estate market. So the New York
Department of State has warned consumers about fake rental listings,
copied apartment photos right, and fraudulent properties and more importantly,
people handing over deposits or personal information before verifying legitimacy.
To your point, and now with AI, we're not just
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talking about basic scams, right, Gabe. We're talking about payte
stubs and bank statements and employment letters and identities that
can look very real. So what are the biggest fraud
patterns you're seeing in rental transactions right now? And where
does verified step in to stop the process from becoming guestwork?
Speaker 6 (08:20):
For sure?
Speaker 4 (08:21):
So I'll give two crazy stories.
Speaker 7 (08:23):
But first, another thing that we see is also even
on the landlord broker's side, there are fake listings people
that are not actually brokers or landlords, and they're putting
out listings to try to catfish people to get them
to send security deposits, taking a couple thousand dollars and
then go and ghost on them. So we also verify
the broker or landlord who comes onto our platform to
ensure that they are who they say they are and
that they're listing is legit. And on the rental side,
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the first story that I heard when I first started
back in October speaking to a lot of brokers in
New York City market was that they were listing a
thirteen thousand dollars a month penhouse in New York City
and some lady came. She pulled up in a Lamborghini,
She had all the diamond chains on, she had a
bag of cash, and she came with a piece of
paper that said she had three million dollars in the bank.
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And the brokers were not so smart, and they saw
that she had all this stuff, they assumed, Okay, she's
got plenty of money, she's gonna be able to afford it.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
They let her in.
Speaker 7 (09:15):
She paid the first months rent thirteen thousand dollars, and
then went the next thirteen months without paying a single dollar,
and it took them thirteen months to a victor. So
they lost thirteen thousand dollars times thirteen months, all down
the drain because they didn't verify. They relied on a
PDF that said that she had the money in the bank.
So that's the first problem, and the way we solve
that is that we actually verify the bank account the
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rent directly, so you don't have to rely on a PDF,
because nowadays anybody can go on chat GBT in two
minutes and get a fake PDF that says they have
three million dollars in the bank. We actually verified direct
from the source, though that problem would never happen. The
second crazy story was a brokerage that they got this
applicant and they decided they're going to call the accountant
just to confirm that everything was legit. Everything was checking out.
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They called the account and they say, okay, we got
an application from your client. We just want to confirm
that everything's legit. They kount of gets his client on
the phone and they start talking to the client and
say is this your name, is this your social security?
Is this your information? And the client says, yes, that's
all my information, but I never applied to an apartment.
So somebody stole this guy's identity, all of his information,
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his social security, and then applied to an apartment under
that person's name.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
So the way that we stop.
Speaker 7 (10:25):
That is, we actually verify the identity of the person applying,
and we make them scan their face in real time
to ensure that they are one hundred percent who they
say they are and they're not trying to steal someone
else's identity.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
So you just shared these real examples of how verified
has helped the landlord, right, But what about the renter?
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Right?
Speaker 5 (10:44):
What about property managers?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
How can they identify inconsistencies and mitigate fraud or make
the transaction smoother via your platform?
Speaker 7 (10:54):
Yeah, so the main idea is that they get the
verified results of the income and the identity.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
Right.
Speaker 7 (11:00):
So instead of the broker, the landlord or the property
manager having to sort through tens of different PDFs, calling
the past landlord, or the accountant or the lawyer, doing
all this dirty work just to ensure that this one
person is real, we solve that by actually just providing
them the verified results right away, and they have to
just look through a couple different things and they could see, Okay,
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this guy actually makes this amount of money, he's actually
verified legit, he's actually currently employed. That's all we need
to know. And then we offer the background and credit
checks also that they want to run on the back
end if they want to do extra due diligence on
the person. But our idea is to make it as
seamless and efficient as possible for them to know right
away if that person is legit and can afford the
apartment or not.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
And this is all embedded in your technology.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Yeah, well, that's where this becomes more than convenience, it
becomes confidence, right exactly.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
So learn more about Verified.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
You could go directly to their website at VRYFID, follow
Gabe on the gram at Gabe Underscore Einhorn and of
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Welcome back, beautiful New York tri State area and beyond.
You're listening to a moment of Zen right here on
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I'm your host, Zenzam's Welcome Back to the Brain Blueprint
series brought to you by the Malilo Centers. Today's conversation
feels bigger than neuroscience. It feels societal because for the
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first time in human history, we're living in an always
on environment filled with NonStop stimulation and fragmented attention and
artificial light exposure and disrupted sleep cycles and digital overload
and constant dopamine driven engagement is what it comes down to,
and many experts now believe that human brain may be
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struggling to adapt to the speed of modern life itself.
Joining us right now is doctor Huri Buzaki, is one
of the world's leading neuroscientists, author of Rhythms of the
Brain and the Brain from Inside Out, and among the
most cited neuroscience researchers globally, and of course, joining us
my co contributor always is doctor Robert Milillo, world renowned neuroscientist,
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researcher and creator of the Malillo method, whose work has
helped reshape conversations surrounding neurodevelopment, hemispheric imbalance, and functional brain connectivity.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
He's also the author of New York.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Time bestselling book Disconnected Kids Doctors.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Welcome to the show, Superstars.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
So I'm going to start with you, doctor Buzaki. I
think many people feel cognitively exhausted right now without fully
understanding why. I mean, we're consuming more information than at
any other point in human history, yet attention spans appear fragmented.
We talk about this a lot on the Brain Blueprint
series with doctor Malillo, and anxiety is rising and sleep
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quality is declining, and people are constantly describing feeling mentally overstimulated.
And some neuroscientists now argue the brain fundamentally evolved not
simply for passive thought, but for movement and timing and
prediction and interaction with the physical world. So, doctor Buzaki,
do you believe modern life is pulling us away from
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the very conditions the human brain evolved for.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
I'm a little bit more optimistic.
Speaker 8 (14:50):
Humans always reinvent themselves, and they adapt to any environment.
I think the problem is not so much the information overload,
that's how we call it, is mostly the uncertainty and
emotional issues.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
The brain is very resilient.
Speaker 8 (15:04):
Our brains haven't changed over the past one hundred thousand years.
The big difference between living now and living one hundred
thousand years ago that the knowledge of the individual, the
share of the humankind's knowledge of the individual.
Speaker 6 (15:18):
Was much much, much larger back then. Interesting thing in human.
Speaker 8 (15:22):
It's called externalization of brain function. We make artifacts, we
make messages. Every single artifact that we make is a message.
It can talk to many many people who see that artifact,
even after I'm dead. These are the books, These are
many many things, including the Internet, including.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
AI and all those things. They can help. They are
not replacing the brain. They are assisting the brain. So
these assistance is very, very useful.
Speaker 8 (15:49):
We can help, we can get help and synthesize in
almost amount of knowledge.
Speaker 6 (15:53):
I don't have to worry about minuscular.
Speaker 8 (15:55):
Stick that I did worry when I was in high school,
like what is the square root of fifty seven? You
don't think about these things anymore now, he said, Oh,
I'd like to have an algorithm written for a scientific experiment.
You don't have to worry about it. So the brain
is loaded with in almost some amount of information and
he has to learn it, has to learn how to select.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
The brain is a very good selector.
Speaker 8 (16:20):
What I'd like to add to it is that what
we feel overwhelmed is the conscious brain. Very large computational
aspect of the brain is subconscious and that goes on
all the time. And we can talk about sleep and
other issues that are related to this. So what I'm
saying is that, yes, there is an overload. You have
to do everything in your power to reduce the exposure
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to various things that are passive, and we can talk
about what is the difference between passive and active.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I know, doctor Mililo, I know so much of your
work overlaps with timing and synchronization and nervous system organization.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
I'd love for you to build on that.
Speaker 9 (16:59):
Yes, so Uria, as I briefly discussed with you, you know,
you've had a big influence your work starting with you know,
like came to you following doctor Rudolf Olinis, and I'm
sure you're familiar with his book I of the vortex,
and he talks about in that book about motricity and
how the foundation of evolution of the brain and the
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reason why we develop brains on this planet was because
a living thing moved. That living things that don't move
don't have brains. Living things that move developed the brain,
and that the more complex the movement, the more complex
the brain, which obviously humans have the most complex movement
in bipedalism. My work has taken that and also related
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it to brain development, meaning that brain development is kind
of like mini evolution, and that movement is also the
most important initiator of brain development.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
So what are your.
Speaker 9 (17:53):
Thoughts on that as far as do you agree that
movement was the foundation of why we develop brains and
evolution of the brains and and how that might play
a role in brain development.
Speaker 8 (18:03):
Absolutely, the brain is a device that always compares. That's
what it does. It always anchors the unknown to the known,
and without that ability to do that, there is no.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
Cognitive function whatsoever. Now, how does it do that?
Speaker 8 (18:17):
So you have inputs, that inputs are coming through the
sensor that this is what you are talking about. That
is a big, big deal today because it's the information
is embodied especially the visual field, in the auditory field
and so on. Now, the neurons eat by brain has
no idea what's going out there. They don't know anything
about figure, shape, sound, and so on. All they know
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is that they receive action potential from other neurons. So
they need a second opinion, and the only second opinion
that is available for the brain is action. So without
action that verifies or that generates meaning to those things
that come in to mind, so to speak, or to
come into the brain, there is nothing without action, that
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is nothing. If you don't move, you don't generate anything.
Speaker 9 (19:04):
Yeah, So what you're saying is that literally the prefrontal cortex,
where we think where are a lot of our higher
cognitive literally kind of emerges out of the motor cortex
for movement, and that we need to move to literally
calibrate our brain to the world around us. And we
do that where the senses come in. But it's the
initiation of movement that really develops, and that's what initiates
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the development of the brain. And if we don't move,
we literally don't develop our brain.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
And honestly, that becomes especially important when we start talking
about children and development. Right, So I kind of want
to lead this back to.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
You, doctor Buzaki. So we are now raising.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Children inside a fully digital environment, constant screen exposure, rapid
dopamine stimulation. Like you said, multitasking, I mean the reduced
physical engagement to doctor Millerlo's point that he's been, you know,
waving the red floor flag for and then all this
leads to major sleep disruption and many parents genuinely feel
(20:05):
like something is changing neurologically in real time. So from
a neuroscience perspective, how important are movement and timing and
sensory experience and more importantly sleep and environmental input during
that early brain development.
Speaker 8 (20:20):
The first rhythm that comes out from the brain in
a newborn animal, and that corresponds to the change between
the second and the third trimester of pregnancy. This is
when mothers feel what they's called babykick. Now, the baby
kicks are there a few times a day because they
are big. These are whole body movements, but there are
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literally one hundreds of thousands of timing movements, and the
goal of these movements is to generate a map of
the body. When you are board, you have no idea
whether your body is a snake or ball. Or something
like that.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
More than that, the body grows very very quickly.
Speaker 8 (20:59):
So when you knows two days later it's a different distance.
You have to calibrate. This is another key word that
we use in this conversation. Before you have to you
have to calibrate. Now, all these movements are capable of
calibrating timing. Now, sleep, When you are asleep, the consolidation
of today's knowledge will happen tonight. And if I erase
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these patterns from your brain. There are about two to
four thousand of these ripples every single night in a
healthy human. If I eraise them, you will not remember
any part of this conversation. So what happens here? The
priorities are given not to the sequential order that happened
during the waking time, but what was important for you.
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This gots a higher flag and it will be repeated
more frequently than many other texts. So indeed, without sleep,
first of all, you die.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
The second.
Speaker 8 (21:53):
If it's if impaired, then we have problems. Every single
psychiatric disease is associated with one or other form of
brain written problems and consequently sleep problems. Studying sleep for
the sake of sleep is interesting, but for studying sleep
for the sake of disease is also important because sleep
is honest.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
Sleep tells you how your brain dynamic is.
Speaker 8 (22:18):
During the conversation, I can pose, I can be distracted,
but when you are looking at a sleeping brain that
doesn't lie.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Wow, I mean it all really ties together and between
sleep and rhythm and all the synchronicities here that we're
seeing for this to really go our way, there's a
lot that I've learned. Doctor Mililo, you are amazing at
explaining everything and breaking it down. And doctor Buzaki, I mean,
this conversation was absolutely extraordinary. Your work continues challenging the
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way we understand memory and movement and timing and more
importantly synchronization and consciousness and the brain itself. I thank
you so much for coming on. Today's discussion made something
very clear to me. It's the future of human health
really depends on understanding not just what the brain is,
but how it functions in rhythm with the world around it.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
So thank you so much for showing that today.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
Thanks so much.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
All right.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
To learn more about doctor Huri Buzaki can visit Zaki
lab dot com. You can also explore his groundbreaking books
rhythms of the brain and the brain from inside out.
And of course, thank you always to our doctor Robert
Mililo for continuing help bridge complex neuroscience into real world
understanding for families everywhere. We'll be right back after this.
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Speaker 5 (24:03):
Welcome back, beautiful New York Tri State area and beyond.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
You're listening to a Moment of Zen right here on
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Speaker 4 (24:12):
I'm your host, Zen Sam's Welcome.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Back to the Hydration with Heart series, brought to you
by Once Upon a Coconut. We've become a society obsessed
with stimulation while completely neglecting recovery. We glorify hustle culture,
we normalize exhaustion, we run on caffeine, cortisol, poor sleep, dehydration,
and overstimulation. And then we wonder why people feel physically depleted,
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emotionally disconnected, hormonally disregulated, and mentally exhausted, because eventually, the
body always keeps score, which is exactly why today's conversation matters.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
We're joined by Andrew Mendez. He's founder of the Plunge Room.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
It's New Jersey's first deep water contrast therapy studio. It's
designed for athletes and entrepreneurs and those high performers and
everyday people serious about recovery pretty much. Andrew brings over
ti twenty five years of experience across health, fitness, strength
and conditioning, and wellness leadership, including work with Equinox and
Lifetime Fitness, and interestingly enough, many people also know him
(25:10):
internationally as DJ Andrew Mendez, where years inside nightlife and
live entertainment helped shape his understanding of atmosphere and energy
and emotional reset and human connection. These are all elements
now deeply woven into the Plunge Room experience. Andrew, Wow,
welcome to the show, superstar, Such great accomplishments.
Speaker 10 (25:31):
I'm so excited to be here and to spread the
passion that I have behind helping others. So thank you
for having me on.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
So I want to start with the bigger cultural problem first,
because I think people are operating in survival mode right
now without even realizing it. Right We've normalized, like I
said in the intro, exhaustion, to the point where.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
People almost feel guilty slowing down.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
I'm one of them.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Between stress and work pressure and overstimulation and poor sleep
and parenting and social media and constant connectivity, I mean,
the list goes on and on. People are living in
a permanent state of fight or flight. Tell me when
did you personally realize that recovery wasn't just a luxury
experience but something people were fundamentally missing in modern life.
Speaker 10 (26:18):
Yeah, you know, I realized it after many years of
working in both the fitness and music industry, like you mentioned,
just working with entrepreneurs, trainers, executives, athletes just like you mentioned.
It's everyone's always thinking that burnout is like a badge
of honor. It's like I work really, really hard, but
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with constant stimulation, poor sleep, poor stress, caffeine. It just
your body's keeping score without you even knowing it. We're
really opened by eyes to It was seeing how quickly
people change after consistent recovery. Work better sleep, less anxiety,
better focus, more emotional balance. So it wasn't really more
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a vanity wellness thing. It was really more about just
getting your nervous system regulated. So that's why I built
the Plundrum differently. I didn't want it to feel like
a luxury spot. I wanted it to be a place
where somebody could come and consistently have a part of
their routine and not it be so random.
Speaker 6 (27:18):
I brought a.
Speaker 10 (27:18):
Little piece of the Philippines because I was inspired with
this room when it came to my most recent trip
seeing family. So I remember when I was island hopping
out there, the limestone cliffs, the greenery, just really felt
that it was a great connection with the nature of water.
So I wanted it to be inspirational, motivational. I didn't
want it to be a place where it was like
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anywhere else. I wanted it to be a place where
you look forward to coming to because it has to
be a part of the routine.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Now, people unfamiliar with deep water contrast therapy. I want
to cover that, explain what's actually happening physiologically inside the
body during the transition between heat and cold exposure. Andrew,
why are we suddenly seeing athletes and executives and creators,
even busy parents embracing this style of recovery.
Speaker 10 (28:07):
Yeah, you know, what you're doing is you're basically improving circulation,
supporting recovery, regulating stress response, and training the nervous system
to work under resilience, like everyday stress. Right, So, when
you're exposed to hot water, basically what it does is
it opens up your blood vessels and it gets your
body moving and warmed up. When you get into the
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cold water, it constrict your blood vessels, so you get
that natural pumping effect where you get to drain all
the toxins, the lackted acid, so on and so forth.
So when it comes to that, it's just really interesting
why so many different people embrace it. Athletes use it
for a muscle performance and to relieve soreness. Executives are
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always mentally overloaded, so they come in to just destress.
Parents use it because they're exhausted all the time. And entrepreneurs,
you probably should know our brains will never end. So
when we're living in a constant state of stimulation, contrast
therapy just creates that focused reset. And if you played
college sports like I did, hot water and cold water
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is something that we've always done and the biggest differentiator
is heat transfers twenty five times faster and water. So
in traditional practices you'd have to sit in a steaming
or sauna for about twenty to forty minutes to reap
the benefits. When you go into a hot plunge, your
body's fully submerged with even distribution to heat, and because
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of the hydrostatic pressure, it's also great for your joints.
And then when you get into the cold water, that's
when that vaso constriction happens and you get all the
great benefits neoper nefron response and door fins and reduce inflammation.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Vasodilation, neo angiogenesis.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
I love the sound of this.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
And what's fascinating, Andrew, is that people are finally realizing
wellness isn't always about pushing harder. To your point, you
said that earlier, it's about helping the body regulate what's
all already overwhelming.
Speaker 10 (30:01):
It absolutely it has to be a routine. It can't
be something that you do every once in a while.
I think that's a common mistake with all types of recovery,
is people wait until they're feeling stressed. People wait until
they're injured, or they're starting to feel their back, so
on and so forth. It's got to be part of
the whole regime.
Speaker 11 (30:20):
You know.
Speaker 10 (30:21):
Controlling stress is such a big part of health and
wellness because when cortisol rises and your stress is high,
you have to control those things. So a lot of
the things that you want to control is how you're recovering,
how you're eating, how you're hydrating, how you're resting, and
deep water contrast therapy and cold exposure helps with all
those things. Holistically, you don't have to take advil, you
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don't have to take any other type of painkillers to
mask it. You're using water, you're connected to nature. It's
hot and cold, and it's really honestly it just for
people who live a fast paced lifestyle that thirty minutes
that they're in our room, they really get a perfect reset.
I think the most rewarding thing that I get out
of it is I ask two questions after every appointment,
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how did you sleep and how does your body feel?
And I think that's what I look forward to every
single day, is because my culture Filipino, we love helping others.
When I get that message, when they're like, holy moly,
I can't believe how I feel. Then I say, just
like house music, it's a feeling that can only describe
by doing it.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
I love it, and you're so involved and passionate it
comes through. Now, this is hydration with heart, brought to
you bioenspun a coconut.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
So I have to ask you about hydration.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Because people underestimate how much dehydration impacts recovery and inflammation
and cognition and even performance. Right, So, why is proper
hydration so critical before and after contrast therapy? And what
are your thoughts on natural electrolyte replenishment through coconut water
versus heavily processed sports drinks.
Speaker 10 (31:54):
Hydration is critical because contrast therapy creates major shifts inside
the body. Circulation changes, sweating, vaso constriction, vasodilation, nervous system activation.
All this stuff requires proper fluid and electrolyte balance. A
lot of people think that they're tired when they're actually
dehydrated and mineral deficient. So because before contrast therapy, you
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always want to just make sure you're fully hydrated because
it'll just keep you feeling fresher out the day. Personally,
I believe in being simple when it comes to your hydration.
I love coconut water. It contains potassium electrolytes without a
lot of the artificial dies and sugars and process ingredients,
and a lot of those sports drinks are exactly what
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it is.
Speaker 11 (32:42):
It's for sports.
Speaker 10 (32:43):
So when you need those sugars, when you need those
quick carbs, it's really when you're in a game performing
overall wellness, you want to try to stay away from
those things, and I believe coconut water is the way
to do.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
It, exactly exactly, Andrew, this conversation was incredibly important because
I truly believe that we're entering an entire new era
where recovery is no longer optional, but it's it's foundational.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
And I think perhaps the biggest takeaway today.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Is this that high performance means nothing if the body
and mind can't sustain it.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
So thank you so much for joining us. I learned
a lot.
Speaker 10 (33:16):
Thank you so much for having me and honestly, this
was a great experience and look forward to coming back
again sometime soon.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
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Welcome back, beautiful New York Tri State area and beyond.
You're listening to a moment of Zen right here on
seven to ten WR, the voice of New York iHeartRadio.
I'm your host, Zen Sam's Welcome back to the Better
Brighter Youth series brought to you by Sispera.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
Today we're joined by doctor Anna Pere.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
She's a Board certified dermatologist and Diplomat of the American
Board of Dermatology. She's a nationally recognized leader in cosmetic dermatology,
specializing in non invasive facial rejuvenation. This conversation could not
be more timely. According to the American Academy of Dermatology,
pigmentary disorders, including malasma and post inflammatory hyperfigmentation, remain among
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the most common reasons patients dermatologic care globally, and particularly
among women and patients with skin of color. At the
same time, the global skin lightning and pigmentation treatment market
is projected to surpass billions over the next several years,
and that's driven.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
Primarily by social media fueled beauty standards and increased consumer
demand for long term skin correction rather than the temporary
cover up solutions. Doctor Pere right now is going to
join us to break down the modern approach to pigment care,
examining the complexity of malasma, the shift towards long term care,
and the growing role of non hydroprinn treatments like saspara.
(35:38):
Welcome to the show, superstar. Thank you so much, so
glad to join you. What an incredible practice you have.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
I know so many people that have come to you
at dermatology Consultants and the feedback is amazing. You really
take that extra care with the patients and I think
that that goes a long way in today's very, very
busy world where providers are treating you just like another number.
But the feedback from your practice has been phenomenal. So congratulations,
(36:05):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 13 (36:06):
You know, I've been at this for over thirty years
and I am so thrilled to have a very diverse
group of patients.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
So this topic about pigmentation is very all right, so
let's get to it.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
So pigmentation, it's one of the most common yet stubborn
concerns in dramatology, particularly pigment disorders like melasma, and while
UV exposure is a known trigger, we now understand it's
far more complex, really driven by both internal and external
factors and really requiring lifelong management, is what I've learned.
(36:39):
I've interviewed so many experts in your field. One of
the studies estimates that malasma affects up to one in
three women in certain high risk populations. That's a lot
with hormonal fluctuations and heat exposure and inflammation and visible
light and even stress. Now we believe to play a
role in this recurrence. So, doctor pay, how do you
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set expectations with patients so they understand the path forward
and the difference between temporary improvement and true long term control.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Such great questions.
Speaker 13 (37:11):
So, as you've highlighted, there are so many different factors
that contribute for patients to worsen melasma or hyper pigmentation
for other reasons, and therefore it has to be a
multifaceted approach. So patients have to understand what their own
triggers are and what are the general triggers. So we
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really emphasize the long term benefits, not the short term turnaround.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
There may be some benefit to.
Speaker 13 (37:40):
It, but this is not the road to success. That
long term approach. Understanding the trigger factors such as UV exposure,
such as heat such as UVA exposure, blue light from
the computers, all of that can really affect how the
higher pigmentation presents. We know that there's a hormonal compoundent.
(38:03):
It's very important for so many women. And one of
the things that has been highlighted in the past year
is inflammation that it contributes to the formation of the pigment.
So we are seeking for topicals or oral supplements that
control and decrease the inflammatory status that can make hyper
pigmentation worse.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
And that distinction is actually very important because I think
social media has conditioned people to believe skincare is supposed
to deliver instant transformation, when in reality, you know, chronic
pigment conditions really require consistency and maintenance and a much
deeper understanding of what's actually happening beneath the skin barrier. Now,
(38:44):
I want to chat about balancing inoffice treatments and at
home care, because in office procedures really can create meaningful change,
but long term success, I mean from my personal experience,
it really depends on the patient's daily habits and adherence
to a really thoughtful at home regimen. And I think
for me when I look at the way I treat
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my own skin. It's especially relevant right now because the
at home skincare category has exploded into a multi billion
dollar industry. But many consumers are layering aggressive acids and
retinoids and trending products without professional guidance, sometimes really worsening
inflammation and pigmentation in that process. So I think it's
(39:28):
important to highlight This is where products like Cispera come
into play. So how do you approach that balance in
your practice and where does Sispera fit into your treatment plans.
Speaker 13 (39:38):
We do have a number of devices in the practice
that are important along the journey of creating improvement of
hyperpigmentation malasma.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
We have all kinds of lasers.
Speaker 13 (39:50):
Some of these lasers are actually perfect for patients with
skin of color. We use chemical peels, we use micro needling,
and we use other than energy BA devices. But the
depth of understanding comms and the success come from the
therapeutic approach that includes not just what we do in
the office, And that's very important because then can create
(40:12):
a bit of a turnaround that most importantly really putting
a patient on a topical and now potentially oral regimen
that can be so helpful.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
Of course, some block.
Speaker 13 (40:22):
Number one, but then a regimen that does not create inflammation,
that does not contribute to irritation and therefore potentially information
is so important, so we look for other choices. For years, decades,
we've used hydroquanone. We used it with redinoids that for
many patients was very irritating. So it's terrific to have
(40:44):
an option that's non hydroquanone based that can really create
an improvement. For years, we had limited resources and hydroquanone
was an olk short term approach, but we have learned
over years that an overuse can create not just not improvement,
but actually worsening of the pigment.
Speaker 14 (41:03):
There are some remote reports of cytotoxicity.
Speaker 13 (41:06):
So moving away from a potential topical that can create
more issues and finding topicals that are natural there are
not non hydro pronound based that are really great for
all kinds of ms.
Speaker 14 (41:20):
Particularly sensitive skin can be so reactive to some of
these harsh topicals is of great benefit and it creates
an approach where you can use something upfront for six
to twelve weeks depending on the degree of pigmentation, and
then transition into wonderful topical routine that will maintain that
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a couple of sunf protection and that oral supplements that
also disturbed pigment production and are so beneficial in inflammation
control and being a supplement of antioxidants create a really
great support that can be used on ongoing basis. And
then of course you do come back and utilize some
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of the devices that dermatologists have available. So really listening
to someone who is educated and has had experience with
both topical and devices and the treatment and understands the
pata physiology of melasma post inflammatory hyperpigmentation so important and
that should be the guidance to patients that seek help.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
You are right on it, Mama.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
I mean, and I see companies you know that are
clinically verified, clinically researched, like the Spara.
Speaker 5 (42:30):
Right, Like you said, it's the stamine based. That's the
stamine base that's.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
Designed to your point, to be used safely over time,
making it really a very compelling option for managing that
chronic condition like melasma, where ongoing treatment is really key.
Like you can never really just stop addressing this issue.
So my question to you is how has.
Speaker 5 (42:51):
This influenced your treatment philosophy.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
And do you see products like Sespara really shaping the
future of pigment care lutely.
Speaker 13 (43:00):
And what I do particularly like is the depth of
understanding that this is also a systemic problem. So adding
systemic control with oral supplement is crucial because now we
are able to control pigment production with an oral supplement,
we can add an antioxidant by mouth and increase UV protection.
(43:23):
And then when you add the topical regiment for acute
treatment and then low treatment, you know, I think that
you know, as I say, it's not about a cure,
it's about treatment and management. And you can really produce beautiful,
glowing skin that doesn't sell show signs of hyper fragmentation
that it can be so aging. And what I love
about this product is that it's really so successful in
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a very diverse group of patients.
Speaker 4 (43:49):
In Atlanta.
Speaker 14 (43:49):
We do have all skin types that we see in
the practice.
Speaker 13 (43:53):
We have devices that target it, but it's wonderfulful to
have a topical regiment that it can do the same.
There are choice is there is a topical that's a
little bit more intense. There's a choice for creations that
have more sensitive skin that can be used in areas
that have been difficult to treat before, such as under arms,
under eyes, great results with the sensitive formulation. What I
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really like is the science that supports again the oral
supplement and how that dis erupts the pigment production, so
you're addressing it both topically and systemically and you can
present patients with a long term treatment plan.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
Well, we are at the end of our date, my dear,
Thank you so much for being our expert on the
microphone and joining the Better Brighter You theories today. We
appreciate your knowledge and more importantly, we appreciate your beautiful presence.
Speaker 13 (44:44):
Well, thank you so much, and thank you for being
committed to spreading that important message as well.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
To learn more about the practice, you could head two
Dermatologyconsultants dot org and you definitely want to follow them
on the ground for tons of inspiring content at Dermatology
Consultants And of course, to learn more about Cispera, you
could head to Cispera dot com or check them out
on the gram at Cispera.
Speaker 5 (45:06):
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after this.
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Welcome back, beautiful New York Tri state area and beyond.
You're listening to a moment of Zen right here on
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I'm your host, Zenzam's. I'm going to pass the mic
to our going deep host Line of Curve for an
exclusive conversation with Vander Holyfield, legendary heavy boxing champion.
Speaker 4 (46:01):
Why not take it away?
Speaker 15 (46:02):
So let's talk a little bit, and we're going to
talk about everything, but let's start back to your early beginnings. Okay,
you started boxing at seven years old. You demonstrated a
quality that I think is so important for success, persistence.
I mean, you're seven years old asking the coach can
you hit the bag?
Speaker 4 (46:23):
Can you?
Speaker 14 (46:23):
And you never stopped?
Speaker 4 (46:24):
And then when you hit the bag, you gave it.
Speaker 15 (46:26):
You're all cruise and all and you didn't stop. I mean,
as an adult, he must have been so impressed with that. Like,
I mean, seriously, if I saw that in a kid
seven years old, I'm going to say, this kid, this
kid is going to be successful. And clearly you have.
So I think as parents we can really we should
learn to identify those things in our kid and really
(46:49):
groom that.
Speaker 4 (46:50):
You know, that's amazing.
Speaker 11 (46:51):
Oh pretty much.
Speaker 16 (46:53):
I told my wife, I said, look, I said, I said,
I became really because my mama wanted me to be
better than her.
Speaker 11 (47:00):
So she told me what she did wrong.
Speaker 16 (47:04):
I think if you don't ever tell nobody what you
do wrong, there ain't nobody gonna know you ever been wrong.
They think you've been back your whole life. But my
mama told me, I don't want you to be like me.
She said, I made so many mistakes and like this,
I want you to let me know.
Speaker 4 (47:19):
Wow, that's that's something. Do you.
Speaker 11 (47:22):
I know?
Speaker 15 (47:22):
First of all, Evanda, you have eleven children. No I
rate you on that I have two account manage them.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
Children with six girls and.
Speaker 15 (47:30):
Five boys, did you raise them in the same way
that your mom had raised you in terms of telling
them the stories of your shortfalls, like, did you have
a different style?
Speaker 16 (47:40):
I didn't look at it stolen, but I knew that
the word of God was the most important thing in
my life. And you know, and so I brought them,
propped them up in the word of God. But I
guess the number one thing is that you know because
my mama told me, she said, kid's gonna be I
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have to have a lot to do with the person
you choose now, so she said, so.
Speaker 11 (48:07):
You don't need it. You can already fight.
Speaker 16 (48:10):
You don't need a good woman with some brains like this.
So the different instance that all my kids came from
smart mothers, how to educated mothers, because things that I
couldn't do, my mama said, oh, you know, you could fight.
Speaker 11 (48:27):
You need to get somebody with some knowledge, you know
something that you don't know, because you'll know when to
be quiet.
Speaker 15 (48:32):
Then you think that And and just from what I'm hearing,
your mother really shaped a lot about you.
Speaker 16 (48:41):
Know who you are.
Speaker 15 (48:42):
The strength that you have it came from your mother
when you got started really getting successful.
Speaker 4 (48:48):
I know your mom was alive, did how did that
impact her? How did she feel?
Speaker 16 (48:53):
It wasn't nothing that she she ever told me about
mine because my mama never knew that I could be
making thirty five million dollars. Mama didn't didn't know that,
and I didn't know that. I never even thought about that.
I remember, I remember the first time Ali and uh
(49:15):
George form was fight making an eight million dollars and.
Speaker 11 (49:19):
I started shaking. What what ain't you know? Because I
used to get a quarter back then so so so
it was amazing.
Speaker 16 (49:30):
Then then all of a sudden when I turned professional,
and then when I fight George Foreman, I got twenty
million dollars.
Speaker 11 (49:39):
You god, what you know? You know? The money now
today is different, the money and went.
Speaker 17 (49:48):
Way up, but million back then was like twenty million
is twenty What did you ho did your mom feel
in that when you got a first check, big check
like that.
Speaker 16 (49:59):
My mama with calm and cool after the Olympic that
came from the Olympics, she saying that good well, And
I said, no, mamma, this is what I'm gonna do.
I'm gonna buy you to how this get all this stuff?
Then all of a sudden, my mama tell me, then
when I become hidweight champ for the world, she said, son,
I don't want to live where you live no more.
(50:20):
And I said, then where you want to live? She said,
I want to know near you. It take too long
for you come get me. She said, I want to
where I won't have to be that far from you.
So I said, okay, And so I bought a house
cross the street from me.
Speaker 15 (50:34):
I know that our listeners are going to learn so
much from what you said, your your wise words, the
way that you express yourself. There's a lot to learn
from it. I appreciate it.
Speaker 11 (50:45):
Thank you, and thank you.
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Welcome back, beautiful New York Tri State Area and beyond.
You're listening to a moment of Zen right here on
seven to ten WR the voice of New York iHeartRadio.
I'm your host, Zen Zams. Welcome back to the Elevating
Experiences series, brought to you by MTK Group New York.
We're talking about one of the most stressful, competitive, and
vulnerable consumer experiences in New York City, renting an apartment.
(03:49):
New York City's rental vacancy rate recently hit one point
four percent. Okay, that's the lowest level measured since the
nineteen sixty eight Housing and Vacancy Survey, which means renters
are moving fast, documents are flying, and trust has become
a premium commodity. And that's exactly where today's guest comes in.
(04:10):
Gabe Einhorn is a young entrepreneur, commercial real estate finance professional,
co founder of Verified and founder of Praise Studio now
Verified Positions itself as an all in one identity vault
for housing, employment, and trust dependent transactions, designed to securely
store id income documents and personal information in one place,
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with the idea of being verified once and shared instantly.
Right Gabe, incredible platform.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
So timely, so needed. Welcome to the show, Superstar.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
Thanks for having me again.
Speaker 7 (04:41):
Always a pleasure to be here.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
So I want to talk about the marketplace problem, because
there is one. Renters are being asked to move fast,
prove everything, and hand over deeply personal financial documents, often
before they even know who they're really dealing with. So
what was the moment you realize that the ren process
was broken enough that it needed its own verification layer
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And how did that become verified?
Speaker 7 (05:06):
Yeah, it actually happened this past last summer with my brother.
We WoT going through a rental process in New York
City and we were being asked time after time after
time to send all of our sensitive information via email
to random brokers, random landlords, and we said, this can't
be normal to send this sensitive information just via email.
So we decided to create a more secure process for
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renters to store all that information in one secure place
and be able to send it across different applications, and
we saw that the other problem was actually verifying that
information was real, and brokers and landlords need to understand
that all that information they're getting is one hundred percent legit.
The person can actually afford that apartment is going to
pay them on a monthly basis, which, especially in a
city like New York, if you get the wrong tenant
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in the building, can basically destroy your whole NOI.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
And that's exactly what innovation should do, right, find the friction,
find the vulnerability, and build something that protects both sides
of the transaction.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
And that's what you did exactly.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Now I want to talk about how verified works.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
So on the verified and we're talking about the spelling
which has verified has a very unique way of being spelled.
It's vry fid. So on the verified side, what really
stands out is this idea of a secure, verified digital profile,
right almost like a renter's identity vault, where ID and
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income documents and personal information can live in one organized
place instead of being to your point, scattered across emails, PDFs,
texts and inboxes. So walk us through how verified works
from the renter side and from the landlord broker, even
property manager side for sure.
Speaker 7 (06:42):
So on the renter side, if somebody's looking to rent
an apartment, they would sign up, they make their own profile,
they upload all their documents, and then they can actually
verify themselves both their identity and their income. So identity
is a liveness scan of their face, matches it to
their ID and confirms that they are one hundred percent
who they say they are and they're not an imposter.
The second is the income veration, which verifies their last
twelve to eighteen months of their bank account inflows and outflows,
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insufficient funds, verifies their employment. So now they show up
to the apartment with all their documents ready and one
hundred percent verified. So that puts them at the top
of the application process where you might be dealing with
hundreds of other applicants trying to get an apartment. Like
you said, the vacancy rate in New York City is crazy.
There's not enough supply. People are begging to get apartments,
and you need to find some way to get a
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competitive edge in the process, and this is the exact
way to do that.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
That makes so much sense, Gabe, because the rental process
should not require people to keep resending their most sensitive
information over and over again.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
I think that's where there's the security breaches happen.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
And now let's talk about the fraud scams in the
New York City real estate market. So the New York
Department of State has warned consumers about fake rental listings,
copied apartment photos right, and fraudulent properties and more importantly,
people handing over deposits or personal information before verifying legitimacy.
To your point, and now with AI, we're not just
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talking about basic scams, right, Gabe. We're talking about payte
stubs and bank statements and employment letters and identities that
can look very real. So what are the biggest fraud
patterns you're seeing in rental transactions right now? And where
does verified step in to stop the process from becoming guestwork?
Speaker 6 (08:20):
For sure?
Speaker 4 (08:21):
So I'll give two crazy stories.
Speaker 7 (08:23):
But first, another thing that we see is also even
on the landlord broker's side, there are fake listings people
that are not actually brokers or landlords, and they're putting
out listings to try to catfish people to get them
to send security deposits, taking a couple thousand dollars and
then go and ghost on them. So we also verify
the broker or landlord who comes onto our platform to
ensure that they are who they say they are and
that they're listing is legit. And on the rental side,
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the first story that I heard when I first started
back in October speaking to a lot of brokers in
New York City market was that they were listing a
thirteen thousand dollars a month penhouse in New York City
and some lady came. She pulled up in a Lamborghini,
She had all the diamond chains on, she had a
bag of cash, and she came with a piece of
paper that said she had three million dollars in the bank.
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And the brokers were not so smart, and they saw
that she had all this stuff, they assumed, Okay, she's
got plenty of money, she's gonna be able to afford it.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
They let her in.
Speaker 7 (09:15):
She paid the first months rent thirteen thousand dollars, and
then went the next thirteen months without paying a single dollar,
and it took them thirteen months to a victor. So
they lost thirteen thousand dollars times thirteen months, all down
the drain because they didn't verify. They relied on a
PDF that said that she had the money in the bank.
So that's the first problem, and the way we solve
that is that we actually verify the bank account the
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rent directly, so you don't have to rely on a PDF,
because nowadays anybody can go on chat GBT in two
minutes and get a fake PDF that says they have
three million dollars in the bank. We actually verified direct
from the source, though that problem would never happen. The
second crazy story was a brokerage that they got this
applicant and they decided they're going to call the accountant
just to confirm that everything was legit. Everything was checking out.
(09:59):
They called the account and they say, okay, we got
an application from your client. We just want to confirm
that everything's legit. They kount of gets his client on
the phone and they start talking to the client and
say is this your name, is this your social security?
Is this your information? And the client says, yes, that's
all my information, but I never applied to an apartment.
So somebody stole this guy's identity, all of his information,
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his social security, and then applied to an apartment under
that person's name.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
So the way that we stop.
Speaker 7 (10:25):
That is, we actually verify the identity of the person applying,
and we make them scan their face in real time
to ensure that they are one hundred percent who they
say they are and they're not trying to steal someone
else's identity.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
So you just shared these real examples of how verified
has helped the landlord, right, But what about the renter?
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Right?
Speaker 5 (10:44):
What about property managers?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
How can they identify inconsistencies and mitigate fraud or make
the transaction smoother via your platform?
Speaker 7 (10:54):
Yeah, so the main idea is that they get the
verified results of the income and the identity.
Speaker 6 (10:59):
Right.
Speaker 7 (11:00):
So instead of the broker, the landlord or the property
manager having to sort through tens of different PDFs, calling
the past landlord, or the accountant or the lawyer, doing
all this dirty work just to ensure that this one
person is real, we solve that by actually just providing
them the verified results right away, and they have to
just look through a couple different things and they could see, Okay,
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this guy actually makes this amount of money, he's actually
verified legit, he's actually currently employed. That's all we need
to know. And then we offer the background and credit
checks also that they want to run on the back
end if they want to do extra due diligence on
the person. But our idea is to make it as
seamless and efficient as possible for them to know right
away if that person is legit and can afford the
apartment or not.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
And this is all embedded in your technology.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Yeah, well, that's where this becomes more than convenience, it
becomes confidence, right exactly.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
So learn more about Verified.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
You could go directly to their website at VRYFID, follow
Gabe on the gram at Gabe Underscore Einhorn and of
course this has been the elevating experiences. You could head
directly to Mtkgroupnewyork dot com and check them out on
the ground at MTK Group New York.
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Speaker 3 (12:40):
Welcome back, beautiful New York tri State area and beyond.
You're listening to a moment of Zen right here on
seven to ten WR, the voice of New York iHeartRadio.
I'm your host, Zenzam's Welcome Back to the Brain Blueprint
series brought to you by the Malilo Centers. Today's conversation
feels bigger than neuroscience. It feels societal because for the
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first time in human history, we're living in an always
on environment filled with NonStop stimulation and fragmented attention and
artificial light exposure and disrupted sleep cycles and digital overload
and constant dopamine driven engagement is what it comes down to,
and many experts now believe that human brain may be
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struggling to adapt to the speed of modern life itself.
Joining us right now is doctor Huri Buzaki, is one
of the world's leading neuroscientists, author of Rhythms of the
Brain and the Brain from Inside Out, and among the
most cited neuroscience researchers globally, and of course, joining us
my co contributor always is doctor Robert Milillo, world renowned neuroscientist,
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researcher and creator of the Malillo method, whose work has
helped reshape conversations surrounding neurodevelopment, hemispheric imbalance, and functional brain connectivity.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
He's also the author of New York.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Time bestselling book Disconnected Kids Doctors.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Welcome to the show, Superstars.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
So I'm going to start with you, doctor Buzaki. I
think many people feel cognitively exhausted right now without fully
understanding why. I mean, we're consuming more information than at
any other point in human history, yet attention spans appear fragmented.
We talk about this a lot on the Brain Blueprint
series with doctor Malillo, and anxiety is rising and sleep
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quality is declining, and people are constantly describing feeling mentally overstimulated.
And some neuroscientists now argue the brain fundamentally evolved not
simply for passive thought, but for movement and timing and
prediction and interaction with the physical world. So, doctor Buzaki,
do you believe modern life is pulling us away from
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the very conditions the human brain evolved for.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
I'm a little bit more optimistic.
Speaker 8 (14:50):
Humans always reinvent themselves, and they adapt to any environment.
I think the problem is not so much the information overload,
that's how we call it, is mostly the uncertainty and
emotional issues.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
The brain is very resilient.
Speaker 8 (15:04):
Our brains haven't changed over the past one hundred thousand years.
The big difference between living now and living one hundred
thousand years ago that the knowledge of the individual, the
share of the humankind's knowledge of the individual.
Speaker 6 (15:18):
Was much much, much larger back then. Interesting thing in human.
Speaker 8 (15:22):
It's called externalization of brain function. We make artifacts, we
make messages. Every single artifact that we make is a message.
It can talk to many many people who see that artifact,
even after I'm dead. These are the books, These are
many many things, including the Internet, including.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
AI and all those things. They can help. They are
not replacing the brain. They are assisting the brain. So
these assistance is very, very useful.
Speaker 8 (15:49):
We can help, we can get help and synthesize in
almost amount of knowledge.
Speaker 6 (15:53):
I don't have to worry about minuscular.
Speaker 8 (15:55):
Stick that I did worry when I was in high school,
like what is the square root of fifty seven? You
don't think about these things anymore now, he said, Oh,
I'd like to have an algorithm written for a scientific experiment.
You don't have to worry about it. So the brain
is loaded with in almost some amount of information and
he has to learn it, has to learn how to select.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
The brain is a very good selector.
Speaker 8 (16:20):
What I'd like to add to it is that what
we feel overwhelmed is the conscious brain. Very large computational
aspect of the brain is subconscious and that goes on
all the time. And we can talk about sleep and
other issues that are related to this. So what I'm
saying is that, yes, there is an overload. You have
to do everything in your power to reduce the exposure
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to various things that are passive, and we can talk
about what is the difference between passive and active.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I know, doctor Mililo, I know so much of your
work overlaps with timing and synchronization and nervous system organization.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
I'd love for you to build on that.
Speaker 9 (16:59):
Yes, so Uria, as I briefly discussed with you, you know,
you've had a big influence your work starting with you know,
like came to you following doctor Rudolf Olinis, and I'm
sure you're familiar with his book I of the vortex,
and he talks about in that book about motricity and
how the foundation of evolution of the brain and the
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reason why we develop brains on this planet was because
a living thing moved. That living things that don't move
don't have brains. Living things that move developed the brain,
and that the more complex the movement, the more complex
the brain, which obviously humans have the most complex movement
in bipedalism. My work has taken that and also related
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it to brain development, meaning that brain development is kind
of like mini evolution, and that movement is also the
most important initiator of brain development.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
So what are your.
Speaker 9 (17:53):
Thoughts on that as far as do you agree that
movement was the foundation of why we develop brains and
evolution of the brains and and how that might play
a role in brain development.
Speaker 8 (18:03):
Absolutely, the brain is a device that always compares. That's
what it does. It always anchors the unknown to the known,
and without that ability to do that, there is no.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
Cognitive function whatsoever. Now, how does it do that?
Speaker 8 (18:17):
So you have inputs, that inputs are coming through the
sensor that this is what you are talking about. That
is a big, big deal today because it's the information
is embodied especially the visual field, in the auditory field
and so on. Now, the neurons eat by brain has
no idea what's going out there. They don't know anything
about figure, shape, sound, and so on. All they know
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is that they receive action potential from other neurons. So
they need a second opinion, and the only second opinion
that is available for the brain is action. So without
action that verifies or that generates meaning to those things
that come in to mind, so to speak, or to
come into the brain, there is nothing without action, that
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is nothing. If you don't move, you don't generate anything.
Speaker 9 (19:04):
Yeah, So what you're saying is that literally the prefrontal cortex,
where we think where are a lot of our higher
cognitive literally kind of emerges out of the motor cortex
for movement, and that we need to move to literally
calibrate our brain to the world around us. And we
do that where the senses come in. But it's the
initiation of movement that really develops, and that's what initiates
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the development of the brain. And if we don't move,
we literally don't develop our brain.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
And honestly, that becomes especially important when we start talking
about children and development. Right, So I kind of want
to lead this back to.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
You, doctor Buzaki. So we are now raising.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Children inside a fully digital environment, constant screen exposure, rapid
dopamine stimulation. Like you said, multitasking, I mean the reduced
physical engagement to doctor Millerlo's point that he's been, you know,
waving the red floor flag for and then all this
leads to major sleep disruption and many parents genuinely feel
(20:05):
like something is changing neurologically in real time. So from
a neuroscience perspective, how important are movement and timing and
sensory experience and more importantly sleep and environmental input during
that early brain development.
Speaker 8 (20:20):
The first rhythm that comes out from the brain in
a newborn animal, and that corresponds to the change between
the second and the third trimester of pregnancy. This is
when mothers feel what they's called babykick. Now, the baby
kicks are there a few times a day because they
are big. These are whole body movements, but there are
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literally one hundreds of thousands of timing movements, and the
goal of these movements is to generate a map of
the body. When you are board, you have no idea
whether your body is a snake or ball. Or something
like that.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
More than that, the body grows very very quickly.
Speaker 8 (20:59):
So when you knows two days later it's a different distance.
You have to calibrate. This is another key word that
we use in this conversation. Before you have to you
have to calibrate. Now, all these movements are capable of
calibrating timing. Now, sleep, When you are asleep, the consolidation
of today's knowledge will happen tonight. And if I erase
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these patterns from your brain. There are about two to
four thousand of these ripples every single night in a
healthy human. If I eraise them, you will not remember
any part of this conversation. So what happens here? The
priorities are given not to the sequential order that happened
during the waking time, but what was important for you.
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This gots a higher flag and it will be repeated
more frequently than many other texts. So indeed, without sleep,
first of all, you die.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
The second.
Speaker 8 (21:53):
If it's if impaired, then we have problems. Every single
psychiatric disease is associated with one or other form of
brain written problems and consequently sleep problems. Studying sleep for
the sake of sleep is interesting, but for studying sleep
for the sake of disease is also important because sleep
is honest.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
Sleep tells you how your brain dynamic is.
Speaker 8 (22:18):
During the conversation, I can pose, I can be distracted,
but when you are looking at a sleeping brain that
doesn't lie.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Wow, I mean it all really ties together and between
sleep and rhythm and all the synchronicities here that we're
seeing for this to really go our way, there's a
lot that I've learned. Doctor Mililo, you are amazing at
explaining everything and breaking it down. And doctor Buzaki, I mean,
this conversation was absolutely extraordinary. Your work continues challenging the
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way we understand memory and movement and timing and more
importantly synchronization and consciousness and the brain itself. I thank
you so much for coming on. Today's discussion made something
very clear to me. It's the future of human health
really depends on understanding not just what the brain is,
but how it functions in rhythm with the world around it.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
So thank you so much for showing that today.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
Thanks so much.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
All right.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
To learn more about doctor Huri Buzaki can visit Zaki
lab dot com. You can also explore his groundbreaking books
rhythms of the brain and the brain from inside out.
And of course, thank you always to our doctor Robert
Mililo for continuing help bridge complex neuroscience into real world
understanding for families everywhere. We'll be right back after this.
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Speaker 5 (24:03):
Welcome back, beautiful New York Tri State area and beyond.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
You're listening to a Moment of Zen right here on
seven to ten WR, the voice of New York iHeartRadio.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
I'm your host, Zen Sam's Welcome.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Back to the Hydration with Heart series, brought to you
by Once Upon a Coconut. We've become a society obsessed
with stimulation while completely neglecting recovery. We glorify hustle culture,
we normalize exhaustion, we run on caffeine, cortisol, poor sleep, dehydration,
and overstimulation. And then we wonder why people feel physically depleted,
(24:35):
emotionally disconnected, hormonally disregulated, and mentally exhausted, because eventually, the
body always keeps score, which is exactly why today's conversation matters.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
We're joined by Andrew Mendez. He's founder of the Plunge Room.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
It's New Jersey's first deep water contrast therapy studio. It's
designed for athletes and entrepreneurs and those high performers and
everyday people serious about recovery pretty much. Andrew brings over
ti twenty five years of experience across health, fitness, strength
and conditioning, and wellness leadership, including work with Equinox and
Lifetime Fitness, and interestingly enough, many people also know him
(25:10):
internationally as DJ Andrew Mendez, where years inside nightlife and
live entertainment helped shape his understanding of atmosphere and energy
and emotional reset and human connection. These are all elements
now deeply woven into the Plunge Room experience. Andrew, Wow,
welcome to the show, superstar, Such great accomplishments.
Speaker 10 (25:31):
I'm so excited to be here and to spread the
passion that I have behind helping others. So thank you
for having me on.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
So I want to start with the bigger cultural problem first,
because I think people are operating in survival mode right
now without even realizing it. Right We've normalized, like I
said in the intro, exhaustion, to the point where.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
People almost feel guilty slowing down.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
I'm one of them.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Between stress and work pressure and overstimulation and poor sleep
and parenting and social media and constant connectivity, I mean,
the list goes on and on. People are living in
a permanent state of fight or flight. Tell me when
did you personally realize that recovery wasn't just a luxury
experience but something people were fundamentally missing in modern life.
Speaker 10 (26:18):
Yeah, you know, I realized it after many years of
working in both the fitness and music industry, like you mentioned,
just working with entrepreneurs, trainers, executives, athletes just like you mentioned.
It's everyone's always thinking that burnout is like a badge
of honor. It's like I work really, really hard, but
(26:38):
with constant stimulation, poor sleep, poor stress, caffeine. It just
your body's keeping score without you even knowing it. We're
really opened by eyes to It was seeing how quickly
people change after consistent recovery. Work better sleep, less anxiety,
better focus, more emotional balance. So it wasn't really more
(27:01):
a vanity wellness thing. It was really more about just
getting your nervous system regulated. So that's why I built
the Plundrum differently. I didn't want it to feel like
a luxury spot. I wanted it to be a place
where somebody could come and consistently have a part of
their routine and not it be so random.
Speaker 6 (27:18):
I brought a.
Speaker 10 (27:18):
Little piece of the Philippines because I was inspired with
this room when it came to my most recent trip
seeing family. So I remember when I was island hopping
out there, the limestone cliffs, the greenery, just really felt
that it was a great connection with the nature of water.
So I wanted it to be inspirational, motivational. I didn't
want it to be a place where it was like
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anywhere else. I wanted it to be a place where
you look forward to coming to because it has to
be a part of the routine.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Now, people unfamiliar with deep water contrast therapy. I want
to cover that, explain what's actually happening physiologically inside the
body during the transition between heat and cold exposure. Andrew,
why are we suddenly seeing athletes and executives and creators,
even busy parents embracing this style of recovery.
Speaker 10 (28:07):
Yeah, you know, what you're doing is you're basically improving circulation,
supporting recovery, regulating stress response, and training the nervous system
to work under resilience, like everyday stress. Right, So, when
you're exposed to hot water, basically what it does is
it opens up your blood vessels and it gets your
body moving and warmed up. When you get into the
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cold water, it constrict your blood vessels, so you get
that natural pumping effect where you get to drain all
the toxins, the lackted acid, so on and so forth.
So when it comes to that, it's just really interesting
why so many different people embrace it. Athletes use it
for a muscle performance and to relieve soreness. Executives are
(28:49):
always mentally overloaded, so they come in to just destress.
Parents use it because they're exhausted all the time. And entrepreneurs,
you probably should know our brains will never end. So
when we're living in a constant state of stimulation, contrast
therapy just creates that focused reset. And if you played
college sports like I did, hot water and cold water
(29:12):
is something that we've always done and the biggest differentiator
is heat transfers twenty five times faster and water. So
in traditional practices you'd have to sit in a steaming
or sauna for about twenty to forty minutes to reap
the benefits. When you go into a hot plunge, your
body's fully submerged with even distribution to heat, and because
(29:33):
of the hydrostatic pressure, it's also great for your joints.
And then when you get into the cold water, that's
when that vaso constriction happens and you get all the
great benefits neoper nefron response and door fins and reduce inflammation.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Vasodilation, neo angiogenesis.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
I love the sound of this.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
And what's fascinating, Andrew, is that people are finally realizing
wellness isn't always about pushing harder. To your point, you
said that earlier, it's about helping the body regulate what's
all already overwhelming.
Speaker 10 (30:01):
It absolutely it has to be a routine. It can't
be something that you do every once in a while.
I think that's a common mistake with all types of recovery,
is people wait until they're feeling stressed. People wait until
they're injured, or they're starting to feel their back, so
on and so forth. It's got to be part of
the whole regime.
Speaker 11 (30:20):
You know.
Speaker 10 (30:21):
Controlling stress is such a big part of health and
wellness because when cortisol rises and your stress is high,
you have to control those things. So a lot of
the things that you want to control is how you're recovering,
how you're eating, how you're hydrating, how you're resting, and
deep water contrast therapy and cold exposure helps with all
those things. Holistically, you don't have to take advil, you
(30:43):
don't have to take any other type of painkillers to
mask it. You're using water, you're connected to nature. It's
hot and cold, and it's really honestly it just for
people who live a fast paced lifestyle that thirty minutes
that they're in our room, they really get a perfect reset.
I think the most rewarding thing that I get out
of it is I ask two questions after every appointment,
(31:05):
how did you sleep and how does your body feel?
And I think that's what I look forward to every
single day, is because my culture Filipino, we love helping others.
When I get that message, when they're like, holy moly,
I can't believe how I feel. Then I say, just
like house music, it's a feeling that can only describe
by doing it.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
I love it, and you're so involved and passionate it
comes through. Now, this is hydration with heart, brought to
you bioenspun a coconut.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
So I have to ask you about hydration.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Because people underestimate how much dehydration impacts recovery and inflammation
and cognition and even performance. Right, So, why is proper
hydration so critical before and after contrast therapy? And what
are your thoughts on natural electrolyte replenishment through coconut water
versus heavily processed sports drinks.
Speaker 10 (31:54):
Hydration is critical because contrast therapy creates major shifts inside
the body. Circulation changes, sweating, vaso constriction, vasodilation, nervous system activation.
All this stuff requires proper fluid and electrolyte balance. A
lot of people think that they're tired when they're actually
dehydrated and mineral deficient. So because before contrast therapy, you
(32:20):
always want to just make sure you're fully hydrated because
it'll just keep you feeling fresher out the day. Personally,
I believe in being simple when it comes to your hydration.
I love coconut water. It contains potassium electrolytes without a
lot of the artificial dies and sugars and process ingredients,
and a lot of those sports drinks are exactly what
(32:42):
it is.
Speaker 11 (32:42):
It's for sports.
Speaker 10 (32:43):
So when you need those sugars, when you need those
quick carbs, it's really when you're in a game performing
overall wellness, you want to try to stay away from
those things, and I believe coconut water is the way
to do.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
It, exactly exactly, Andrew, this conversation was incredibly important because
I truly believe that we're entering an entire new era
where recovery is no longer optional, but it's it's foundational.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
And I think perhaps the biggest takeaway today.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Is this that high performance means nothing if the body
and mind can't sustain it.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
So thank you so much for joining us. I learned
a lot.
Speaker 10 (33:16):
Thank you so much for having me and honestly, this
was a great experience and look forward to coming back
again sometime soon.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
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to the Plunge Room dot com. You can follow them
directly on Instagram at the Plunge Room, and you can
also follow Andrew personally at DJ Andrew Mendez. And of course,
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Speaker 3 (34:16):
Welcome back, beautiful New York Tri State area and beyond.
You're listening to a moment of Zen right here on
seven to ten WR, the voice of New York iHeartRadio.
I'm your host, Zen Sam's Welcome back to the Better
Brighter Youth series brought to you by Sispera.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
Today we're joined by doctor Anna Pere.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
She's a Board certified dermatologist and Diplomat of the American
Board of Dermatology. She's a nationally recognized leader in cosmetic dermatology,
specializing in non invasive facial rejuvenation. This conversation could not
be more timely. According to the American Academy of Dermatology,
pigmentary disorders, including malasma and post inflammatory hyperfigmentation, remain among
(34:58):
the most common reasons patients dermatologic care globally, and particularly
among women and patients with skin of color. At the
same time, the global skin lightning and pigmentation treatment market
is projected to surpass billions over the next several years,
and that's driven.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
Primarily by social media fueled beauty standards and increased consumer
demand for long term skin correction rather than the temporary
cover up solutions. Doctor Pere right now is going to
join us to break down the modern approach to pigment care,
examining the complexity of malasma, the shift towards long term care,
and the growing role of non hydroprinn treatments like saspara.
(35:38):
Welcome to the show, superstar. Thank you so much, so
glad to join you. What an incredible practice you have.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
I know so many people that have come to you
at dermatology Consultants and the feedback is amazing. You really
take that extra care with the patients and I think
that that goes a long way in today's very, very
busy world where providers are treating you just like another number.
But the feedback from your practice has been phenomenal. So congratulations,
(36:05):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 13 (36:06):
You know, I've been at this for over thirty years
and I am so thrilled to have a very diverse
group of patients.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
So this topic about pigmentation is very all right, so
let's get to it.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
So pigmentation, it's one of the most common yet stubborn
concerns in dramatology, particularly pigment disorders like melasma, and while
UV exposure is a known trigger, we now understand it's
far more complex, really driven by both internal and external
factors and really requiring lifelong management, is what I've learned.
(36:39):
I've interviewed so many experts in your field. One of
the studies estimates that malasma affects up to one in
three women in certain high risk populations. That's a lot
with hormonal fluctuations and heat exposure and inflammation and visible
light and even stress. Now we believe to play a
role in this recurrence. So, doctor pay, how do you
(37:00):
set expectations with patients so they understand the path forward
and the difference between temporary improvement and true long term control.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Such great questions.
Speaker 13 (37:11):
So, as you've highlighted, there are so many different factors
that contribute for patients to worsen melasma or hyper pigmentation
for other reasons, and therefore it has to be a
multifaceted approach. So patients have to understand what their own
triggers are and what are the general triggers. So we
(37:32):
really emphasize the long term benefits, not the short term turnaround.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
There may be some benefit to.
Speaker 13 (37:40):
It, but this is not the road to success. That
long term approach. Understanding the trigger factors such as UV exposure,
such as heat such as UVA exposure, blue light from
the computers, all of that can really affect how the
higher pigmentation presents. We know that there's a hormonal compoundent.
(38:03):
It's very important for so many women. And one of
the things that has been highlighted in the past year
is inflammation that it contributes to the formation of the pigment.
So we are seeking for topicals or oral supplements that
control and decrease the inflammatory status that can make hyper
pigmentation worse.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
And that distinction is actually very important because I think
social media has conditioned people to believe skincare is supposed
to deliver instant transformation, when in reality, you know, chronic
pigment conditions really require consistency and maintenance and a much
deeper understanding of what's actually happening beneath the skin barrier. Now,
(38:44):
I want to chat about balancing inoffice treatments and at
home care, because in office procedures really can create meaningful change,
but long term success, I mean from my personal experience,
it really depends on the patient's daily habits and adherence
to a really thoughtful at home regimen. And I think
for me when I look at the way I treat
(39:06):
my own skin. It's especially relevant right now because the
at home skincare category has exploded into a multi billion
dollar industry. But many consumers are layering aggressive acids and
retinoids and trending products without professional guidance, sometimes really worsening
inflammation and pigmentation in that process. So I think it's
(39:28):
important to highlight This is where products like Cispera come
into play. So how do you approach that balance in
your practice and where does Sispera fit into your treatment plans.
Speaker 13 (39:38):
We do have a number of devices in the practice
that are important along the journey of creating improvement of
hyperpigmentation malasma.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
We have all kinds of lasers.
Speaker 13 (39:50):
Some of these lasers are actually perfect for patients with
skin of color. We use chemical peels, we use micro needling,
and we use other than energy BA devices. But the
depth of understanding comms and the success come from the
therapeutic approach that includes not just what we do in
the office, And that's very important because then can create
(40:12):
a bit of a turnaround that most importantly really putting
a patient on a topical and now potentially oral regimen
that can be so helpful.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
Of course, some block.
Speaker 13 (40:22):
Number one, but then a regimen that does not create inflammation,
that does not contribute to irritation and therefore potentially information
is so important, so we look for other choices. For years, decades,
we've used hydroquanone. We used it with redinoids that for
many patients was very irritating. So it's terrific to have
(40:44):
an option that's non hydroquanone based that can really create
an improvement. For years, we had limited resources and hydroquanone
was an olk short term approach, but we have learned
over years that an overuse can create not just not improvement,
but actually worsening of the pigment.
Speaker 14 (41:03):
There are some remote reports of cytotoxicity.
Speaker 13 (41:06):
So moving away from a potential topical that can create
more issues and finding topicals that are natural there are
not non hydro pronound based that are really great for
all kinds of ms.
Speaker 14 (41:20):
Particularly sensitive skin can be so reactive to some of
these harsh topicals is of great benefit and it creates
an approach where you can use something upfront for six
to twelve weeks depending on the degree of pigmentation, and
then transition into wonderful topical routine that will maintain that
(41:41):
a couple of sunf protection and that oral supplements that
also disturbed pigment production and are so beneficial in inflammation
control and being a supplement of antioxidants create a really
great support that can be used on ongoing basis. And
then of course you do come back and utilize some
(42:01):
of the devices that dermatologists have available. So really listening
to someone who is educated and has had experience with
both topical and devices and the treatment and understands the
pata physiology of melasma post inflammatory hyperpigmentation so important and
that should be the guidance to patients that seek help.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
You are right on it, Mama.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
I mean, and I see companies you know that are
clinically verified, clinically researched, like the Spara.
Speaker 5 (42:30):
Right, Like you said, it's the stamine based. That's the
stamine base that's.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
Designed to your point, to be used safely over time,
making it really a very compelling option for managing that
chronic condition like melasma, where ongoing treatment is really key.
Like you can never really just stop addressing this issue.
So my question to you is how has.
Speaker 5 (42:51):
This influenced your treatment philosophy.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
And do you see products like Sespara really shaping the
future of pigment care lutely.
Speaker 13 (43:00):
And what I do particularly like is the depth of
understanding that this is also a systemic problem. So adding
systemic control with oral supplement is crucial because now we
are able to control pigment production with an oral supplement,
we can add an antioxidant by mouth and increase UV protection.
(43:23):
And then when you add the topical regiment for acute
treatment and then low treatment, you know, I think that
you know, as I say, it's not about a cure,
it's about treatment and management. And you can really produce beautiful,
glowing skin that doesn't sell show signs of hyper fragmentation
that it can be so aging. And what I love
about this product is that it's really so successful in
(43:47):
a very diverse group of patients.
Speaker 4 (43:49):
In Atlanta.
Speaker 14 (43:49):
We do have all skin types that we see in
the practice.
Speaker 13 (43:53):
We have devices that target it, but it's wonderfulful to
have a topical regiment that it can do the same.
There are choice is there is a topical that's a
little bit more intense. There's a choice for creations that
have more sensitive skin that can be used in areas
that have been difficult to treat before, such as under arms,
under eyes, great results with the sensitive formulation. What I
(44:15):
really like is the science that supports again the oral
supplement and how that dis erupts the pigment production, so
you're addressing it both topically and systemically and you can
present patients with a long term treatment plan.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
Well, we are at the end of our date, my dear,
Thank you so much for being our expert on the
microphone and joining the Better Brighter You theories today. We
appreciate your knowledge and more importantly, we appreciate your beautiful presence.
Speaker 13 (44:44):
Well, thank you so much, and thank you for being
committed to spreading that important message as well.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
To learn more about the practice, you could head two
Dermatologyconsultants dot org and you definitely want to follow them
on the ground for tons of inspiring content at Dermatology
Consultants And of course, to learn more about Cispera, you
could head to Cispera dot com or check them out
on the gram at Cispera.
Speaker 5 (45:06):
That's see why spe r A. We'll be right back
after this.
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Speaker 3 (45:41):
Welcome back, beautiful New York Tri state area and beyond.
You're listening to a moment of Zen right here on
seven to ten WR, the voice of New York iHeartRadio.
I'm your host, Zenzam's. I'm going to pass the mic
to our going deep host Line of Curve for an
exclusive conversation with Vander Holyfield, legendary heavy boxing champion.
Speaker 4 (46:01):
Why not take it away?
Speaker 15 (46:02):
So let's talk a little bit, and we're going to
talk about everything, but let's start back to your early beginnings. Okay,
you started boxing at seven years old. You demonstrated a
quality that I think is so important for success, persistence.
I mean, you're seven years old asking the coach can
you hit the bag?
Speaker 4 (46:23):
Can you?
Speaker 14 (46:23):
And you never stopped?
Speaker 4 (46:24):
And then when you hit the bag, you gave it.
Speaker 15 (46:26):
You're all cruise and all and you didn't stop. I mean,
as an adult, he must have been so impressed with that. Like,
I mean, seriously, if I saw that in a kid
seven years old, I'm going to say, this kid, this
kid is going to be successful. And clearly you have.
So I think as parents we can really we should
learn to identify those things in our kid and really
(46:49):
groom that.
Speaker 4 (46:50):
You know, that's amazing.
Speaker 11 (46:51):
Oh pretty much.
Speaker 16 (46:53):
I told my wife, I said, look, I said, I said,
I became really because my mama wanted me to be
better than her.
Speaker 11 (47:00):
So she told me what she did wrong.
Speaker 16 (47:04):
I think if you don't ever tell nobody what you
do wrong, there ain't nobody gonna know you ever been wrong.
They think you've been back your whole life. But my
mama told me, I don't want you to be like me.
She said, I made so many mistakes and like this,
I want you to let me know.
Speaker 4 (47:19):
Wow, that's that's something. Do you.
Speaker 11 (47:22):
I know?
Speaker 15 (47:22):
First of all, Evanda, you have eleven children. No I
rate you on that I have two account manage them.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
Children with six girls and.
Speaker 15 (47:30):
Five boys, did you raise them in the same way
that your mom had raised you in terms of telling
them the stories of your shortfalls, like, did you have
a different style?
Speaker 16 (47:40):
I didn't look at it stolen, but I knew that
the word of God was the most important thing in
my life. And you know, and so I brought them,
propped them up in the word of God. But I
guess the number one thing is that you know because
my mama told me, she said, kid's gonna be I
(48:01):
have to have a lot to do with the person
you choose now, so she said, so.
Speaker 11 (48:07):
You don't need it. You can already fight.
Speaker 16 (48:10):
You don't need a good woman with some brains like this.
So the different instance that all my kids came from
smart mothers, how to educated mothers, because things that I
couldn't do, my mama said, oh, you know, you could fight.
Speaker 11 (48:27):
You need to get somebody with some knowledge, you know
something that you don't know, because you'll know when to
be quiet.
Speaker 15 (48:32):
Then you think that And and just from what I'm hearing,
your mother really shaped a lot about you.
Speaker 16 (48:41):
Know who you are.
Speaker 15 (48:42):
The strength that you have it came from your mother
when you got started really getting successful.
Speaker 4 (48:48):
I know your mom was alive, did how did that
impact her? How did she feel?
Speaker 16 (48:53):
It wasn't nothing that she she ever told me about
mine because my mama never knew that I could be
making thirty five million dollars. Mama didn't didn't know that,
and I didn't know that. I never even thought about that.
I remember, I remember the first time Ali and uh
(49:15):
George form was fight making an eight million dollars and.
Speaker 11 (49:19):
I started shaking. What what ain't you know? Because I
used to get a quarter back then so so so
it was amazing.
Speaker 16 (49:30):
Then then all of a sudden when I turned professional,
and then when I fight George Foreman, I got twenty
million dollars.
Speaker 11 (49:39):
You god, what you know? You know? The money now
today is different, the money and went.
Speaker 17 (49:48):
Way up, but million back then was like twenty million
is twenty What did you ho did your mom feel
in that when you got a first check, big check
like that.
Speaker 16 (49:59):
My mama with calm and cool after the Olympic that
came from the Olympics, she saying that good well, And
I said, no, mamma, this is what I'm gonna do.
I'm gonna buy you to how this get all this stuff?
Then all of a sudden, my mama tell me, then
when I become hidweight champ for the world, she said, son,
I don't want to live where you live no more.
(50:20):
And I said, then where you want to live? She said,
I want to know near you. It take too long
for you come get me. She said, I want to
where I won't have to be that far from you.
So I said, okay, And so I bought a house
cross the street from me.
Speaker 15 (50:34):
I know that our listeners are going to learn so
much from what you said, your your wise words, the
way that you express yourself. There's a lot to learn
from it. I appreciate it.
Speaker 11 (50:45):
Thank you, and thank you.
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